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	Comments on: John Sweeney and Marc Headley Visit Scientology&#8217;s Odd New Mexico Vault	</title>
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		By: ArthurApplebee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ArthurApplebee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71614&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL! The whole thing is ludicrous.


From what I&#039;ve read, Hubbard didn&#039;t even think of himself as a &quot;Scientologist&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71614">TonyOrtega</a>.</p>
<p>LOL! The whole thing is ludicrous.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, Hubbard didn&#8217;t even think of himself as a &#8220;Scientologist&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Jonny Jacobsen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny Jacobsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71549&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

No! Say it ain&#039;t so!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71549">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>No! Say it ain&#8217;t so!</p>
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		By: Orange		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orange]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do I have a feeling that they&#039;re going to put this in the next Fallout game?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I have a feeling that they&#8217;re going to put this in the next Fallout game?</p>
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		By: Sokramor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sokramor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71639&quot;&gt;Chocolate Velvet&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;ve been lurking since Village Voice days, and now I just HAD to de-lurk to thank you for your eloquent and fascinating blog post. And for recommending DS9, of course ;) I&#039;m in the process of re-watching it at the moment - I&#039;ve been a Trek fan since my childhood, and DS9 has quickly become my favourite. Even the side characters have more depth than the main characters in other series.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71639">Chocolate Velvet</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been lurking since Village Voice days, and now I just HAD to de-lurk to thank you for your eloquent and fascinating blog post. And for recommending DS9, of course 😉 I&#8217;m in the process of re-watching it at the moment &#8211; I&#8217;ve been a Trek fan since my childhood, and DS9 has quickly become my favourite. Even the side characters have more depth than the main characters in other series.</p>
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		By: Jonny Jacobsen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny Jacobsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71615&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

That sounds plausible. What a relief: I wasn&#039;t relishing sending a scolding email to Jimmy Page, who after all used to be (still is?) a great admirer of Aleister Crowley! :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71615">TonyOrtega</a>.</p>
<p>That sounds plausible. What a relief: I wasn&#8217;t relishing sending a scolding email to Jimmy Page, who after all used to be (still is?) a great admirer of Aleister Crowley! 🙂</p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 04:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71486&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

This may already be posted but..... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4719205/scientology-tom-cruise-alien-cathedral-new-mexico-hello-message.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71486">TheHoleDoesNotExist</a>.</p>
<p>This may already be posted but&#8230;.. <a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4719205/scientology-tom-cruise-alien-cathedral-new-mexico-hello-message.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4719205/scientology-tom-cruise-alien-cathedral-new-mexico-hello-message.html</a></p>
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		By: aussiecase		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aussiecase]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71585&quot;&gt;ze moo&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m of the opinion that such a scenario is unlikely but should not be ruled out.

Should it happen, DM has lots of ways to deal keep control, I am giving one example of how far the BS can go.

First, if DM indoctrinates Hubbard&#039;s successor he will control the successor, and he can come up with tonnes of BS. For example:

The between-lives area is more dangerous than Hubbard expected and much of his memories were lost. We administered various BS tests and confirmed this successor is indeed the thetan formerly known as Hubbard. DM will have new rundowns and process to help scientologists attempt this transition, with luck they can transition to a sea org staff. 

DM can claim he offered the new Hubbard his resignation, but the new Hubbard didn&#039;t accept it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71585">ze moo</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m of the opinion that such a scenario is unlikely but should not be ruled out.</p>
<p>Should it happen, DM has lots of ways to deal keep control, I am giving one example of how far the BS can go.</p>
<p>First, if DM indoctrinates Hubbard&#8217;s successor he will control the successor, and he can come up with tonnes of BS. For example:</p>
<p>The between-lives area is more dangerous than Hubbard expected and much of his memories were lost. We administered various BS tests and confirmed this successor is indeed the thetan formerly known as Hubbard. DM will have new rundowns and process to help scientologists attempt this transition, with luck they can transition to a sea org staff. </p>
<p>DM can claim he offered the new Hubbard his resignation, but the new Hubbard didn&#8217;t accept it.</p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps this link has already been posted..... Disqus is weird today:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4719205/scientology-tom-cruise-alien-cathedral-new-mexico-hello-message.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps this link has already been posted&#8230;.. Disqus is weird today:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4719205/scientology-tom-cruise-alien-cathedral-new-mexico-hello-message.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/features/4719205/scientology-tom-cruise-alien-cathedral-new-mexico-hello-message.html</a></p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71454&quot;&gt;nobs&lt;/a&gt;.

Somehow &quot;gold records&quot; keeps creeping into the news stories. Gold doesn&#039;t rust, is shiny and a good conductor, but would be terrible for durability. The records were supposed to be made of nickel.

http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n462/LarryBren/disks/CopyofEbay047.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71454">nobs</a>.</p>
<p>Somehow &#8220;gold records&#8221; keeps creeping into the news stories. Gold doesn&#8217;t rust, is shiny and a good conductor, but would be terrible for durability. The records were supposed to be made of nickel.</p>
<p><a href="http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n462/LarryBren/disks/CopyofEbay047.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://i339.photobucket.com/albums/n462/LarryBren/disks/CopyofEbay047.jpg</a></p>
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		By: Rick Mycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Mycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71462&quot;&gt;Bradley Greenwood&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Even if you looked at it and read it, you would not understand anything in 
it. Because it is way above a normal person and you would not know what it 
meant!&quot;

Oh wait, that was Rex Fowler&#039;s wife to police about the contents of his briefcase.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/31/john-sweeney-and-marc-headley-visit-scientologys-odd-new-mexico-vault/comment-page-1/#comment-71462">Bradley Greenwood</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Even if you looked at it and read it, you would not understand anything in<br />
it. Because it is way above a normal person and you would not know what it<br />
meant!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh wait, that was Rex Fowler&#8217;s wife to police about the contents of his briefcase.</p>
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