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	Comments on: Ken Dandar in Federal Court Today &#8212; And Loses Again	</title>
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		By: GrangerFX		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[So he loses in the state court and appeals to the Federal Eleventh Circuit court where he wins. Perhaps I am not following this correctly but this federal judge is basically letting him know how the appeal will go.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So he loses in the state court and appeals to the Federal Eleventh Circuit court where he wins. Perhaps I am not following this correctly but this federal judge is basically letting him know how the appeal will go.</p>
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		By: spensergirl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spensergirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66913&quot;&gt;DeElizabethan&lt;/a&gt;.

I think the (majority) of us here feel the same and care and find it so unjust, let alone Ken do this alone. So since no attorneys will stop up, the only avenue I see if the people who care step up. I think we should brainstorm some ideas, for those who do care, of how we can best help, as someone needs to. You may not think you can make a difference as  just one person, but MANY of us together can, but not unless we try and think of a way.  If anyone has any ideas, please post.


The only thing I can say for sure is for me, it does not feel right to sit back and watch and not think of something to do to help. I just do not know exactly what yet. Maybe someone else does or can at least throw out some ideas. Together, between Tony&#039;s board and the other anti COS boards, make no mistake, you do have power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66913">DeElizabethan</a>.</p>
<p>I think the (majority) of us here feel the same and care and find it so unjust, let alone Ken do this alone. So since no attorneys will stop up, the only avenue I see if the people who care step up. I think we should brainstorm some ideas, for those who do care, of how we can best help, as someone needs to. You may not think you can make a difference as  just one person, but MANY of us together can, but not unless we try and think of a way.  If anyone has any ideas, please post.</p>
<p>The only thing I can say for sure is for me, it does not feel right to sit back and watch and not think of something to do to help. I just do not know exactly what yet. Maybe someone else does or can at least throw out some ideas. Together, between Tony&#8217;s board and the other anti COS boards, make no mistake, you do have power.</p>
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		By: spensergirl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spensergirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2012 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66877&quot;&gt;Dorothy Gale&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree, if anyone has any ideas, I am willling to try to set up a site. I know Ken, Tony can verify it if needed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66877">Dorothy Gale</a>.</p>
<p>I agree, if anyone has any ideas, I am willling to try to set up a site. I know Ken, Tony can verify it if needed.</p>
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		By: mook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66849&quot;&gt;media_lush&lt;/a&gt;.

actresses/culties who are &#039;all movie&#039; actresses:
-Anne Archer
-Juliette Lewis (for the most part)
-Kelly Preston


hmmm....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66849">media_lush</a>.</p>
<p>actresses/culties who are &#8216;all movie&#8217; actresses:<br />
-Anne Archer<br />
-Juliette Lewis (for the most part)<br />
-Kelly Preston</p>
<p>hmmm&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Beatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 17:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66916&quot;&gt;HyperionCorp&lt;/a&gt;.

I wish I&#039;d have read more, before I got into Scientology, I only heard of Merton, and need to read so much more, such a backlog of more smarter minds than Hubbard&#039;s, to spend one&#039;s time reading.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66916">HyperionCorp</a>.</p>
<p>I wish I&#8217;d have read more, before I got into Scientology, I only heard of Merton, and need to read so much more, such a backlog of more smarter minds than Hubbard&#8217;s, to spend one&#8217;s time reading.</p>
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		By: HyperionCorp		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HyperionCorp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66875&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m going to be serious for a minute.  Chuck- read Thomas Merton.  He was a famous christian monk who read a lot of Zen Buddhism, and his books were best sellers.  He didn&#039;t profit personally (he had taken an oath of poverty), but humanity gained quite a bit because of his inquisitive nature and his insights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66875">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be serious for a minute.  Chuck- read Thomas Merton.  He was a famous christian monk who read a lot of Zen Buddhism, and his books were best sellers.  He didn&#8217;t profit personally (he had taken an oath of poverty), but humanity gained quite a bit because of his inquisitive nature and his insights.</p>
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		By: HyperionCorp		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HyperionCorp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 08:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66901&quot;&gt;spensergirl&lt;/a&gt;.

Amen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66901">spensergirl</a>.</p>
<p>Amen</p>
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		By: jensting		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jensting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66897&quot;&gt;burythenuts&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Strange Days&quot; http://www.imdb DOT KOM/title/tt0114558/ Awesome film.Never mind Lewis, it had Angela Bassett in it :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66897">burythenuts</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Strange Days&#8221; <a href="http://www.imdb" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.imdb</a> DOT KOM/title/tt0114558/ Awesome film.Never mind Lewis, it had Angela Bassett in it 🙂</p>
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		By: DeElizabethan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeElizabethan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66901&quot;&gt;spensergirl&lt;/a&gt;.

Here! Here!
Dander -  We Do Care About You and Thank You!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/07/ken-dandar-in-federal-court-today-scientology-naturally-asks-for-sanctions/comment-page-1/#comment-66901">spensergirl</a>.</p>
<p>Here! Here!<br />
Dander &#8211;  We Do Care About You and Thank You!</p>
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		By: Anononyourside		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 05:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Judge Merryday&#039;s order clearly implies that the state court is running amok.  I am not familiar with the Florida court system, but there has to be some method to get oversight relief.  The state legislature judiciary committee?  A separate complaint for declaratory relief?  This case is far more bizarre than anything I have ever encountered.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judge Merryday&#8217;s order clearly implies that the state court is running amok.  I am not familiar with the Florida court system, but there has to be some method to get oversight relief.  The state legislature judiciary committee?  A separate complaint for declaratory relief?  This case is far more bizarre than anything I have ever encountered.</p>
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