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		By: BiggerFatterPolitics		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the US it is now legal to marry a corporation. Lawyer Frank Abrams explains with a song.

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<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3VedFC2a9Y" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3VedFC2a9Y</a></p>
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		By: Warrior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Warrior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66635&quot;&gt;wynot&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello, wynot, from sunny Austin!]]></description>
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<p>Hello, wynot, from sunny Austin!</p>
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		By: Warrior		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66670&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

Cumulative difference equals a negative 660 ounces. There are 128 ounces in a gallon. 660 divided by 128 equals 5.156 gallons. This is the amount of fluid Lisa _should_ have had.  Water weighs 8.3 pounds per gallon. 5.156 gallons @ 8.3 lbs. per gallon = 42.8 pounds cumulative difference. 

Back when I was consulting for Kennan Dandar, I read that on the day Lisa had her public meltdown (November 18) while trying to escape from Scientology&#039;s OSA, paramedics reported her weight at 155 lbs. Upon her death 17 days later Lisa&#039;s body weighed 108 lbs. That&#039;s a 47 lb. loss! This equates to 30.3% (47/155)!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66670">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>Cumulative difference equals a negative 660 ounces. There are 128 ounces in a gallon. 660 divided by 128 equals 5.156 gallons. This is the amount of fluid Lisa _should_ have had.  Water weighs 8.3 pounds per gallon. 5.156 gallons @ 8.3 lbs. per gallon = 42.8 pounds cumulative difference. </p>
<p>Back when I was consulting for Kennan Dandar, I read that on the day Lisa had her public meltdown (November 18) while trying to escape from Scientology&#8217;s OSA, paramedics reported her weight at 155 lbs. Upon her death 17 days later Lisa&#8217;s body weighed 108 lbs. That&#8217;s a 47 lb. loss! This equates to 30.3% (47/155)!</p>
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		By: Sunny Sands		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66669&quot;&gt;Chuck Beatty&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your honesty, Chuck.  I grew up in the Clearwater area pre-Scientology days.  When Hubbard and the faux Navy rolled into town, Clearwater was only about 10 years into a racially integrated society, and still struggling with issues like forced bussing.  The citrus growing industry was still viable in Pinellas County.    Add to that the issues the whole country was facing at the time of the mid- to late-seventies, double digit inflation, changing social mores including the drug culture, and the women&#039;s movement.   Some folks buy the Ft. Harrison hotel and put out a United Churches of Florida sign, people initially thought it was a good thing.  Then the lies start to unravel, and people objected, but were no match for the beast in their midst.  Thank you for your insights and for your comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66669">Chuck Beatty</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your honesty, Chuck.  I grew up in the Clearwater area pre-Scientology days.  When Hubbard and the faux Navy rolled into town, Clearwater was only about 10 years into a racially integrated society, and still struggling with issues like forced bussing.  The citrus growing industry was still viable in Pinellas County.    Add to that the issues the whole country was facing at the time of the mid- to late-seventies, double digit inflation, changing social mores including the drug culture, and the women&#8217;s movement.   Some folks buy the Ft. Harrison hotel and put out a United Churches of Florida sign, people initially thought it was a good thing.  Then the lies start to unravel, and people objected, but were no match for the beast in their midst.  Thank you for your insights and for your comment.</p>
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		By: PickAnotherID		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66677&quot;&gt;0tessa&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the info. It&#039;s only mentioned once, and wouldn&#039;t have made any difference in what happened to Lisa in the end. If they had gotten her on an IV at a hospital on Dec 1st, when J. Johnson said she needed 2 liters of fluid, maybe she would have lived. But she never got that 2L of fluid, by IV or any other way, and died. What a waste of a young life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66677">0tessa</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the info. It&#8217;s only mentioned once, and wouldn&#8217;t have made any difference in what happened to Lisa in the end. If they had gotten her on an IV at a hospital on Dec 1st, when J. Johnson said she needed 2 liters of fluid, maybe she would have lived. But she never got that 2L of fluid, by IV or any other way, and died. What a waste of a young life.</p>
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		By: moxon moxoff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66675&quot;&gt;EnthralledObserver&lt;/a&gt;.

mordre woll out



it may take time (tick tock, as Tory says) . . . and we should not give up the chorus or the pressure . . . but soon or later this criminal organization is going to be laid bare.  the whole stinking rotting pile.]]></description>
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<p>mordre woll out</p>
<p>it may take time (tick tock, as Tory says) . . . and we should not give up the chorus or the pressure . . . but soon or later this criminal organization is going to be laid bare.  the whole stinking rotting pile.</p>
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		By: moxon moxoff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66660&quot;&gt;burythenuts&lt;/a&gt;.

you did say that out loud.  get thee to an ethics officer, m&#039;lady.  also, i picked out tony&#039;s pony, since he&#039;s doing such a nice job of slicing up the co$:  http://www.morbidementia.com/horror-news/my-little-pony-meets-edward-scissorhands.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66660">burythenuts</a>.</p>
<p>you did say that out loud.  get thee to an ethics officer, m&#8217;lady.  also, i picked out tony&#8217;s pony, since he&#8217;s doing such a nice job of slicing up the co$:  <a href="http://www.morbidementia.com/horror-news/my-little-pony-meets-edward-scissorhands.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.morbidementia.com/horror-news/my-little-pony-meets-edward-scissorhands.htm</a></p>
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		By: Nina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66631&quot;&gt;CoolHand&lt;/a&gt;.

Hear! Hear!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66631">CoolHand</a>.</p>
<p>Hear! Hear!</p>
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		By: mook		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mook]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66668&quot;&gt;scnethics&lt;/a&gt;.

my friend (whom I chose not to name; let&#039;s just call him John Doe) is not/has never been in CoS and met them at an industry event along with many other celebs (oh the stories...)]]></description>
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<p>my friend (whom I chose not to name; let&#8217;s just call him John Doe) is not/has never been in CoS and met them at an industry event along with many other celebs (oh the stories&#8230;)</p>
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		By: 0tessa		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[0tessa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 14:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66670&quot;&gt;PickAnotherID&lt;/a&gt;.

For your information:
Scientologists used to drink CM = calcium magnesium powder dissolved in a glass of water.
So, when it is mentioned &#039;CM&#039; 1000 ml, it is a lidquid allright.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/05/lisa-mcpherson-day-is-florida-ashamed-yet/comment-page-1/#comment-66670">PickAnotherID</a>.</p>
<p>For your information:<br />
Scientologists used to drink CM = calcium magnesium powder dissolved in a glass of water.<br />
So, when it is mentioned &#8216;CM&#8217; 1000 ml, it is a lidquid allright.</p>
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