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		By: dagobarbz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dagobarbz]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Is it just me, or does it seem self-destructive to market a totalitarian, oppressive belief system to &quot;free thinkers and rebels?&quot; Cuz free thinkers and rebels are the ones who say &#039;fuck you&#039; when their personality test comes back fail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me, or does it seem self-destructive to market a totalitarian, oppressive belief system to &#8220;free thinkers and rebels?&#8221; Cuz free thinkers and rebels are the ones who say &#8216;fuck you&#8217; when their personality test comes back fail.</p>
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		By: Tomato Thetan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tomato Thetan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Dec 2012 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I called NESA to ask them about this alliance between Scientology and NESA and to express my displeasure that my contact info could be given to Scientology.  The woman I spoke to told me she had no knowledge of such a program and asked me to forward the letter to her, which I did.  She said she would forward it to her boss.  This is the reply he sent to me: 

Scientology has not received contact information for Eagle Scouts from NESA or the Boy Scouts of America.  
They have not requested such information, either. 
  
Good Scouting, 
  
Bill 
  
Bill Steele  &#124;  Director of Alumni Relations and the National Eagle Scout Association 

Maybe this request for money to put TWTH in the hands of Eagle Scouts is just a lie to get members to send in cash?  

I did tell the people at NESA that, while TWTH claims to be secular, it is most definitely Scientology material.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called NESA to ask them about this alliance between Scientology and NESA and to express my displeasure that my contact info could be given to Scientology.  The woman I spoke to told me she had no knowledge of such a program and asked me to forward the letter to her, which I did.  She said she would forward it to her boss.  This is the reply he sent to me: </p>
<p>Scientology has not received contact information for Eagle Scouts from NESA or the Boy Scouts of America.<br />
They have not requested such information, either. </p>
<p>Good Scouting, </p>
<p>Bill </p>
<p>Bill Steele  |  Director of Alumni Relations and the National Eagle Scout Association </p>
<p>Maybe this request for money to put TWTH in the hands of Eagle Scouts is just a lie to get members to send in cash?  </p>
<p>I did tell the people at NESA that, while TWTH claims to be secular, it is most definitely Scientology material.</p>
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		By: Vistaril		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vistaril]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66596&quot;&gt;burythenuts&lt;/a&gt;.

Heh! Interesting to note the difference between actual engrams and the concept Scientology likes to promote. Still, doesn&#039;t ever stop them from forwarding the myth that science is &quot;catching up&quot; with L Ron Hubbard. Try wandering into MIT and preventing the scientists from fall about the place in hysterical laughter when you tell them that!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66596">burythenuts</a>.</p>
<p>Heh! Interesting to note the difference between actual engrams and the concept Scientology likes to promote. Still, doesn&#8217;t ever stop them from forwarding the myth that science is &#8220;catching up&#8221; with L Ron Hubbard. Try wandering into MIT and preventing the scientists from fall about the place in hysterical laughter when you tell them that!</p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66601&quot;&gt;TCBY&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, because of the amount of federal funding that supports school districts, it mattered very much that the Bush Republicans were in power in terms of public education for those years 2001-2008.  The Bush Republicans wielded uncommon power in public education, the like that we have seldom seen in the U.S.  And they extended that power to Britain, Europe and other places by supporting the placement of Narconon Drug Education, Applied Scholastics, etc., in the public and private school systems.

Many Republicans, once they knew what was going on, were appalled, of course, and have been excellent allies.  In virtually every case, they had no idea that they were dealing with Scientology until media or other exposure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66601">TCBY</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, because of the amount of federal funding that supports school districts, it mattered very much that the Bush Republicans were in power in terms of public education for those years 2001-2008.  The Bush Republicans wielded uncommon power in public education, the like that we have seldom seen in the U.S.  And they extended that power to Britain, Europe and other places by supporting the placement of Narconon Drug Education, Applied Scholastics, etc., in the public and private school systems.</p>
<p>Many Republicans, once they knew what was going on, were appalled, of course, and have been excellent allies.  In virtually every case, they had no idea that they were dealing with Scientology until media or other exposure.</p>
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		By: Sherbet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherbet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66597&quot;&gt;sheepherder&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, I hear ya, sheepherder.  Now that I&#039;m having nightmares about attending scn protests and getting yelled at by handlers, I think I should pull back a bit.  But this blog and its horrifying revelations about cos are such an irresistible draw.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66597">sheepherder</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, I hear ya, sheepherder.  Now that I&#8217;m having nightmares about attending scn protests and getting yelled at by handlers, I think I should pull back a bit.  But this blog and its horrifying revelations about cos are such an irresistible draw.</p>
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		By: TCBY		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TCBY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66593&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you 100% about it being our responsibility to take an active role in what is going on in our local communities, especially when it comes to safeguarding our children, whether we have kids or not. 

The federal and state government provide and set guidelines and standards, but it is the local school districts who have the ultimate say on whom will do so  and how they will do it, no matter who is president of the United States or what his political party.

It&#039;s not a Republican versus Democrat issue - we should be seeking support from as many people as we can to keep the Co$ from continuing with and getting away with their dirty deeds.  Also, if you want to get as much support from the public as possible, don&#039;t knock them if they are Republican, Christian or fundamentalists or whatever (I&#039;m not quite sure who falls under the category of fundamentalist, anyway) since some of the most effective and gregarious people offering their help may fall under a label you might be criticizing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66593">California</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you 100% about it being our responsibility to take an active role in what is going on in our local communities, especially when it comes to safeguarding our children, whether we have kids or not. </p>
<p>The federal and state government provide and set guidelines and standards, but it is the local school districts who have the ultimate say on whom will do so  and how they will do it, no matter who is president of the United States or what his political party.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a Republican versus Democrat issue &#8211; we should be seeking support from as many people as we can to keep the Co$ from continuing with and getting away with their dirty deeds.  Also, if you want to get as much support from the public as possible, don&#8217;t knock them if they are Republican, Christian or fundamentalists or whatever (I&#8217;m not quite sure who falls under the category of fundamentalist, anyway) since some of the most effective and gregarious people offering their help may fall under a label you might be criticizing.</p>
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		By: Elle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66453&quot;&gt;Victoria&lt;/a&gt;.

Me too!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66453">Victoria</a>.</p>
<p>Me too!!!</p>
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		By: sheepherder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sheepherder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66506&quot;&gt;Tessa&lt;/a&gt;.

I noticed that too, Tessa.  Very 1930&#039;s Berlin style.  Seems to me the BSA should have chosen something more American-looking, not to mention less pornographic.

Great slogan below -  I&#039;d LOL if it weren&#039;t so horribly true -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66506">Tessa</a>.</p>
<p>I noticed that too, Tessa.  Very 1930&#8217;s Berlin style.  Seems to me the BSA should have chosen something more American-looking, not to mention less pornographic.</p>
<p>Great slogan below &#8211;  I&#8217;d LOL if it weren&#8217;t so horribly true &#8211;</p>
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		By: sheepherder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sheepherder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66512&quot;&gt;moxon moxoff&lt;/a&gt;.

Like!  Oh yeah- on my wish list; the thumbs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/12/02/scientology-targeting-eagle-scouts-in-new-initiative/comment-page-1/#comment-66512">moxon moxoff</a>.</p>
<p>Like!  Oh yeah- on my wish list; the thumbs.</p>
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		By: sheepherder		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sheepherder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 18:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, the thrills!  Something outrageous every day!  But I am going to have to give it up for a month (if I can - ) I wish everyone very happy holidays, and all I want for Christmas is DM&#039;s arrest.

BTW, what is this about the Silver Marmot?  i don&#039;t want the blubbard even remotely connected with my mountains!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, the thrills!  Something outrageous every day!  But I am going to have to give it up for a month (if I can &#8211; ) I wish everyone very happy holidays, and all I want for Christmas is DM&#8217;s arrest.</p>
<p>BTW, what is this about the Silver Marmot?  i don&#8217;t want the blubbard even remotely connected with my mountains!!</p>
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