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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66294&quot;&gt;bm&lt;/a&gt;.

bm:


&#062;&#062;What about this? You all keeping mum about one of you advocating the murder of others?Is that how you are? Silent about other’s being harmed or threatened with harm? Doesn’t sound like you at all.

“I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”
“burythenuts”&#060;&#060;

Whatever the overall merit of your characterization of others here might be, I really cannot believe that more haven&#039;t called you out on the above.

Observing from afar that it&#039;s surprising that someone &#034;has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet&#034; does NOT equal &#034;advocating the murder of others.&#034; 

If I say &#034;It&#039;s suprising to me that some Tea Party whacko hasn&#039;t gone off his nut and assassinated Barack Obama,&#034; does that mean I &#034;advocate&#034; the assassination of Barack Obama?

Repeating your mischaracterization of burythenuts&#039; comment will not succeed in making it less illogical than it was the first time you made it.

Until you own up to the obvious fallacy of this mischaracterization, it will be impossible to take anything else you write here seriously, however well-intentioned you may think it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66294">bm</a>.</p>
<p>bm:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;What about this? You all keeping mum about one of you advocating the murder of others?Is that how you are? Silent about other’s being harmed or threatened with harm? Doesn’t sound like you at all.</p>
<p>“I really cannot believe someone has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet…”<br />
“burythenuts”&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>Whatever the overall merit of your characterization of others here might be, I really cannot believe that more haven&#039;t called you out on the above.</p>
<p>Observing from afar that it&#039;s surprising that someone &quot;has not totally snapped and killed Miscavige yet&quot; does NOT equal &quot;advocating the murder of others.&quot; </p>
<p>If I say &quot;It&#039;s suprising to me that some Tea Party whacko hasn&#039;t gone off his nut and assassinated Barack Obama,&quot; does that mean I &quot;advocate&quot; the assassination of Barack Obama?</p>
<p>Repeating your mischaracterization of burythenuts&#039; comment will not succeed in making it less illogical than it was the first time you made it.</p>
<p>Until you own up to the obvious fallacy of this mischaracterization, it will be impossible to take anything else you write here seriously, however well-intentioned you may think it is.</p>
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		By: dylan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dylan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[of course you know Bm that I really do not care if you use the cult speak and were never in. I think that I am a critic of critic&#039;s critic&#039;s. is that even possible?  There are not many of you out there. So thank god I found you. Do you know how hard it is going around the net being a critic of critics critics. To be honest there are not many critic&#039;s of critic&#039;s. So you can imagine what it must be like for me? 

Well thank god you came along. I&#039;m new at this so my little retorts up there were to just get a feel for all of this. I will try and catch up to your prowess and utter uber stature of critical criticalness. (does any of this even make sence) 

P.s. any notes you have would be great but I understand if you do not want to share.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course you know Bm that I really do not care if you use the cult speak and were never in. I think that I am a critic of critic&#8217;s critic&#8217;s. is that even possible?  There are not many of you out there. So thank god I found you. Do you know how hard it is going around the net being a critic of critics critics. To be honest there are not many critic&#8217;s of critic&#8217;s. So you can imagine what it must be like for me? </p>
<p>Well thank god you came along. I&#8217;m new at this so my little retorts up there were to just get a feel for all of this. I will try and catch up to your prowess and utter uber stature of critical criticalness. (does any of this even make sence) </p>
<p>P.s. any notes you have would be great but I understand if you do not want to share.</p>
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		By: dylan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dylan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66343&quot;&gt;bm&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;does not get a pass&quot; Really! could you stop speaking like a clam and then people might start listening. just a thought.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66343">bm</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;does not get a pass&#8221; Really! could you stop speaking like a clam and then people might start listening. just a thought.</p>
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		By: dylan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dylan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66373&quot;&gt;bm&lt;/a&gt;.

One interesting thing that I noticed in all of this. BM used the words Present time. In the context a scientologist would. For one that has never been around anyone or inside of an org. How would you pick up on the cult speak. 

I have been out for years and I still have the cult speak. My wife was never in and she never uses cult speak. 

BM your efforts to distract this thread were pretty silly. I really hope it got your stats up and you do not have to do lowers this week. 

if you decide to get out please look me up and we can get a pint. my treat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66373">bm</a>.</p>
<p>One interesting thing that I noticed in all of this. BM used the words Present time. In the context a scientologist would. For one that has never been around anyone or inside of an org. How would you pick up on the cult speak. </p>
<p>I have been out for years and I still have the cult speak. My wife was never in and she never uses cult speak. </p>
<p>BM your efforts to distract this thread were pretty silly. I really hope it got your stats up and you do not have to do lowers this week. </p>
<p>if you decide to get out please look me up and we can get a pint. my treat.</p>
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		By: Boson Stark		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boson Stark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66432&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

Just don&#039;t try that on a cat. 

I think they&#039;ll really enjoy the seclusion, however some windy dark nights can be a little scary in a place like that. Is it the branches on a tree brushing the window or a loon with a camera?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66432">TheHoleDoesNotExist</a>.</p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t try that on a cat. </p>
<p>I think they&#8217;ll really enjoy the seclusion, however some windy dark nights can be a little scary in a place like that. Is it the branches on a tree brushing the window or a loon with a camera?</p>
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		By: Whydothespikesfacein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whydothespikesfacein]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66188&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;No doubt the “church” will consider this a victory, and maybe it seems like one considering how their dwindling spiral is accelerating, but unless the Marcab Confederacy sends a ship for him Marty will simply take up residence elsewhere on this planet. Hopefully it will be somewhere even more hostile to Scn than Ingleside on the Bay, and less accessible to Squirrel Busters.&quot;
- This comment just made my day, LOL!  Every once and a while I step back and realize how ridiculous this all is.  The human rights abuses are serious I know, but why does this scam work on people!?, and if you ask that question you have to ask why ANY religion works.  It&#039;s all fairy tails]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66188">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;No doubt the “church” will consider this a victory, and maybe it seems like one considering how their dwindling spiral is accelerating, but unless the Marcab Confederacy sends a ship for him Marty will simply take up residence elsewhere on this planet. Hopefully it will be somewhere even more hostile to Scn than Ingleside on the Bay, and less accessible to Squirrel Busters.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; This comment just made my day, LOL!  Every once and a while I step back and realize how ridiculous this all is.  The human rights abuses are serious I know, but why does this scam work on people!?, and if you ask that question you have to ask why ANY religion works.  It&#8217;s all fairy tails</p>
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		By: TrustMeOnThis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TrustMeOnThis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66396&quot;&gt;Eric J&lt;/a&gt;.

They do it all the time. It would be funny if they weren&#039;t ruining people&#039;s lives with their insane, illegal scam.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66396">Eric J</a>.</p>
<p>They do it all the time. It would be funny if they weren&#8217;t ruining people&#8217;s lives with their insane, illegal scam.</p>
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		By: TrustMeOnThis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TrustMeOnThis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66383&quot;&gt;Enkindled&lt;/a&gt;.

He gets twelve bucks a week!
And no respect, here or at his &quot;church.&quot; Poor bm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66383">Enkindled</a>.</p>
<p>He gets twelve bucks a week!<br />
And no respect, here or at his &#8220;church.&#8221; Poor bm.</p>
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		By: InTheNameOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InTheNameOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 16:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66400&quot;&gt;AnotherSP&lt;/a&gt;.

The way to do that is to boycott their films. Mel Gibson&#039;s career tanked because of his anti-semetic statements. Tom Cruise has done 20x worse by shilling for a destructive cult, benefiting from Sea Org slave labor, and abusing his staff. It&#039;s amazing how the public has not back-lashed against this piece of shit is beyond me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66400">AnotherSP</a>.</p>
<p>The way to do that is to boycott their films. Mel Gibson&#8217;s career tanked because of his anti-semetic statements. Tom Cruise has done 20x worse by shilling for a destructive cult, benefiting from Sea Org slave labor, and abusing his staff. It&#8217;s amazing how the public has not back-lashed against this piece of shit is beyond me.</p>
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		By: TheHoleDoesNotExist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheHoleDoesNotExist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 15:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66431&quot;&gt;Boson Stark&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe this time Marty will get real guard dogs,  with headcams.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/8997939/Animal-pictures-of-the-week-6-January-2012.html?image=6]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/30/miscavige-gets-his-wish-marty-rathbun-pulling-up-stakes/comment-page-1/#comment-66431">Boson Stark</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe this time Marty will get real guard dogs,  with headcams.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/8997939/Animal-pictures-of-the-week-6-January-2012.html?image=6" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthpicturegalleries/8997939/Animal-pictures-of-the-week-6-January-2012.html?image=6</a></p>
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