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		By: plainolfyhetan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2012 04:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Random thoughts:

1) at some point in the game you have to trade your minor child to the Sea Org for admission to your next OT level

2) the game should have &quot;loops&quot; in it where you have to go back to the beginning if Miscavige issues a new Age of Tech

3) some random trigger should declare you not Clear at various points in the game

4) there should be gauntlets that you must run six times a year and emerge with enough money to keep doing courses (call them Int Events)

5) make sure that if you go to Flag or the Freewinds one day a week is sucked up with IAS donation day

6) make sure that Tom Cruise complains to Miscavige about shabby orgs or shoddy buses, distracting church funds onto things that don&#039;t get you up the bridge

7) make a &quot;follow the money&quot; side game that makes you follow a donation through hoops until the money ends up in caribbean bank accounts or Miscavige&#039;s private Bolivian coffers


8) the Int Events should have &quot;implant cards&quot; in them that are the only way you can get out of an ethics hassle.
One of the cards would be, for example, &quot;NARCONON IS THE MOST WORKABLE LEAST RECIDIVIST DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAM IN THE WORLD&quot;. Then when you have to go to Ethics for some arbitrary reason (&quot;You weren&#039;t wearing upstat enough clothes while you were on course&quot;) you can pull out an &quot;implant card&quot; and get back to course. Other implant cards:
&quot;PSYCHIATRY KILLS&quot;, &quot;STUDY TECH WILL SAVE MANKIND&quot;, &quot;ALL IT WILL TAKE IS ANOTHER INTENSIVE&quot;, &quot;COB IS MAKING SCIENTOLOGY EXPAND 70X EVERY DECADE&quot;, &quot;MISCAVIGE NEVER TOUCHED ANYONE&quot;, &quot;THE HOLE DOES NOT EXIST&quot;, &quot;THE MOST ETHICAL AND SANE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE IN THE SEA ORG&quot;, &quot;WHOEVER SAID IT WAS A BITTER DEFROCKED APOSTATE&quot;, &quot;IF MISCAVIGE WAS AN SP HE&#039;D BE DECLARED, RIGHT?&quot;, &quot;IT&#039;S TRUE BECAUSE COB SAID IT AT AN INT EVENT&quot;. You get to use the implant card &quot;COB IS SO SMART BECAUSE HE HAS ACCESS TO SECRET LRH WRITINGS&quot; multiple times. 

9) if you&#039;re declared, the contents of your pc folders will be used to prove to others that your declare was justified

10) the declare procedure involves accepting fabricated reports submitted in the name of people you know and a declare order is written from them. the declare order is shown to everyone else playing the game, but not you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random thoughts:</p>
<p>1) at some point in the game you have to trade your minor child to the Sea Org for admission to your next OT level</p>
<p>2) the game should have &#8220;loops&#8221; in it where you have to go back to the beginning if Miscavige issues a new Age of Tech</p>
<p>3) some random trigger should declare you not Clear at various points in the game</p>
<p>4) there should be gauntlets that you must run six times a year and emerge with enough money to keep doing courses (call them Int Events)</p>
<p>5) make sure that if you go to Flag or the Freewinds one day a week is sucked up with IAS donation day</p>
<p>6) make sure that Tom Cruise complains to Miscavige about shabby orgs or shoddy buses, distracting church funds onto things that don&#8217;t get you up the bridge</p>
<p>7) make a &#8220;follow the money&#8221; side game that makes you follow a donation through hoops until the money ends up in caribbean bank accounts or Miscavige&#8217;s private Bolivian coffers</p>
<p>8) the Int Events should have &#8220;implant cards&#8221; in them that are the only way you can get out of an ethics hassle.<br />
One of the cards would be, for example, &#8220;NARCONON IS THE MOST WORKABLE LEAST RECIDIVIST DRUG TREATMENT PROGRAM IN THE WORLD&#8221;. Then when you have to go to Ethics for some arbitrary reason (&#8220;You weren&#8217;t wearing upstat enough clothes while you were on course&#8221;) you can pull out an &#8220;implant card&#8221; and get back to course. Other implant cards:<br />
&#8220;PSYCHIATRY KILLS&#8221;, &#8220;STUDY TECH WILL SAVE MANKIND&#8221;, &#8220;ALL IT WILL TAKE IS ANOTHER INTENSIVE&#8221;, &#8220;COB IS MAKING SCIENTOLOGY EXPAND 70X EVERY DECADE&#8221;, &#8220;MISCAVIGE NEVER TOUCHED ANYONE&#8221;, &#8220;THE HOLE DOES NOT EXIST&#8221;, &#8220;THE MOST ETHICAL AND SANE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD ARE IN THE SEA ORG&#8221;, &#8220;WHOEVER SAID IT WAS A BITTER DEFROCKED APOSTATE&#8221;, &#8220;IF MISCAVIGE WAS AN SP HE&#8217;D BE DECLARED, RIGHT?&#8221;, &#8220;IT&#8217;S TRUE BECAUSE COB SAID IT AT AN INT EVENT&#8221;. You get to use the implant card &#8220;COB IS SO SMART BECAUSE HE HAS ACCESS TO SECRET LRH WRITINGS&#8221; multiple times. </p>
<p>9) if you&#8217;re declared, the contents of your pc folders will be used to prove to others that your declare was justified</p>
<p>10) the declare procedure involves accepting fabricated reports submitted in the name of people you know and a declare order is written from them. the declare order is shown to everyone else playing the game, but not you.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 10:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65932&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

L. Ron Hubbard hated humor (although he employed it himself to the extent of his small ability). Hubbard ordered the Guardian&#039;s Office to destroy the career of cartoonist Jim Berry, who had committed the offense of publishing a drawing captioned, &quot;I was into EST, Primal Therapy, Yoga, Scientology, Hare Krishna, Transcendental Meditation — Now I&#039;m into money!&quot; The GO hired PIs to snoop after him, and enlisted Scn publics for a letter writing campaign, which fortunately was ineffective. &quot;Operation Funnybone&quot; was cut short and exposed due to the FBI raids of 1977. Berry knew nothing of this until long after. Learn more at http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/operation-funny-bone-berry-ltrs.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65932">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>L. Ron Hubbard hated humor (although he employed it himself to the extent of his small ability). Hubbard ordered the Guardian&#8217;s Office to destroy the career of cartoonist Jim Berry, who had committed the offense of publishing a drawing captioned, &#8220;I was into EST, Primal Therapy, Yoga, Scientology, Hare Krishna, Transcendental Meditation — Now I&#8217;m into money!&#8221; The GO hired PIs to snoop after him, and enlisted Scn publics for a letter writing campaign, which fortunately was ineffective. &#8220;Operation Funnybone&#8221; was cut short and exposed due to the FBI raids of 1977. Berry knew nothing of this until long after. Learn more at <a href="http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/operation-funny-bone-berry-ltrs.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/operation-funny-bone-berry-ltrs.html</a></p>
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		By: Derek Bloch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Bloch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65974&quot;&gt;The Dakini&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you so much The Dakini! I hope that reunion happens one day. It would be awesome. You supply the cheese, I&#039;ll supply the chili. I am sure there are some dairy farmers around here that can bring some fresh, homemade sour cream!

All we need are some fritos!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65974">The Dakini</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you so much The Dakini! I hope that reunion happens one day. It would be awesome. You supply the cheese, I&#8217;ll supply the chili. I am sure there are some dairy farmers around here that can bring some fresh, homemade sour cream!</p>
<p>All we need are some fritos!</p>
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		By: The Source		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 19:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We have some amazing developers/designers ready to make the game. If you want to see us make it (or disappear trying) join us at www.indiegogo.com/thesourcegame]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have some amazing developers/designers ready to make the game. If you want to see us make it (or disappear trying) join us at <a href="http://www.indiegogo.com/thesourcegame" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.indiegogo.com/thesourcegame</a></p>
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		By: angry gay pope		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[angry gay pope]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 18:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I doubt OSA or Kendrick Moxon will go beyond an avagram with this cute video or the fundraising.  It only encourages outsiders not to join.  It is &quot;outside the valence of hubbard.&quot;  If they are going to sue anyone for a video it would likely be me. They&#039;ve done it four times already and my videos show me on their doorstep trying to shrink their numbers. That&#039;s &quot;inside the valence of hubbard.&quot;  Like this video where I am promoting iscientology.org and throwing up on people ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MwPf1t6NQk]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt OSA or Kendrick Moxon will go beyond an avagram with this cute video or the fundraising.  It only encourages outsiders not to join.  It is &#8220;outside the valence of hubbard.&#8221;  If they are going to sue anyone for a video it would likely be me. They&#8217;ve done it four times already and my videos show me on their doorstep trying to shrink their numbers. That&#8217;s &#8220;inside the valence of hubbard.&#8221;  Like this video where I am promoting iscientology.org and throwing up on people &#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MwPf1t6NQk" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MwPf1t6NQk</a></p>
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		By: Vistaril		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vistaril]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 12:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65942&quot;&gt;Nat&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmmm . . . we may never find out but, in the event that we do how about a wee flutter:   $25 donation to the charity/cause/organisation of the winner&#039;s choice . . . proof of payment of said donation to be furnished to TonyO for confirmation? In or out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65942">Nat</a>.</p>
<p>Hmmm . . . we may never find out but, in the event that we do how about a wee flutter:   $25 donation to the charity/cause/organisation of the winner&#8217;s choice . . . proof of payment of said donation to be furnished to TonyO for confirmation? In or out?</p>
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		By: nexibello		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nexibello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65976&quot;&gt;nexibello&lt;/a&gt;.

edit.... *decades* later not centuries...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65976">nexibello</a>.</p>
<p>edit&#8230;. *decades* later not centuries&#8230;</p>
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		By: nexibello		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nexibello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 09:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This &quot;translation&quot; of a &quot;religion&quot; into a &quot;video game&quot; is brilliant. All the little details that everybody who is familiar with CO$ recognizes make one grin for hours. The &quot;preview&quot; suggest a very complicated game, with lots and lots of rules, hard to understand explanations - you&#039;ll only realize what they meant after it&#039;s too late - game over - new game. And hard to win I&#039;d expect. And the win has no value at all in real live.
Such a perfect picture of CO$.
If LRH had been born a few centuries later he would have invented a video game instead of a &quot;religion&quot; and he would have made a hell of a lot of money  - without wasting or even destroying so many lives of real people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;translation&#8221; of a &#8220;religion&#8221; into a &#8220;video game&#8221; is brilliant. All the little details that everybody who is familiar with CO$ recognizes make one grin for hours. The &#8220;preview&#8221; suggest a very complicated game, with lots and lots of rules, hard to understand explanations &#8211; you&#8217;ll only realize what they meant after it&#8217;s too late &#8211; game over &#8211; new game. And hard to win I&#8217;d expect. And the win has no value at all in real live.<br />
Such a perfect picture of CO$.<br />
If LRH had been born a few centuries later he would have invented a video game instead of a &#8220;religion&#8221; and he would have made a hell of a lot of money  &#8211; without wasting or even destroying so many lives of real people.</p>
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		By: The Dakini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dakini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65974&quot;&gt;The Dakini&lt;/a&gt;.

Whoop! Derek, I meant &quot;your&quot; family. I&#039;m on my iPad. Typing is tricky.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65974">The Dakini</a>.</p>
<p>Whoop! Derek, I meant &#8220;your&#8221; family. I&#8217;m on my iPad. Typing is tricky.</p>
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		By: The Dakini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dakini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 01:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65956&quot;&gt;Derek Bloch&lt;/a&gt;.

Derek! How wonderful! I hope this experience and our family continue building your confiendence and know that you are being though about with fondeness by all of us during the holidays. 

Crying, like laughing and peaceful silence are wonderful and pure states of being. Enjoy each moment of it because they are precious. And all of us here are fortunate to have a life that allows us to see them.

On a side note, Tony I will be bringing a variety of fantastic cheeses from my home state to the yet to occur  TO Rodeo Reunion. Along with some homemade, make ya cry with pleasure cheesy popcorn. Just for Derek. ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/29/fun-new-video-but-is-this-indiegogo-project-headed-for-legal-trouble/comment-page-1/#comment-65956">Derek Bloch</a>.</p>
<p>Derek! How wonderful! I hope this experience and our family continue building your confiendence and know that you are being though about with fondeness by all of us during the holidays. </p>
<p>Crying, like laughing and peaceful silence are wonderful and pure states of being. Enjoy each moment of it because they are precious. And all of us here are fortunate to have a life that allows us to see them.</p>
<p>On a side note, Tony I will be bringing a variety of fantastic cheeses from my home state to the yet to occur  TO Rodeo Reunion. Along with some homemade, make ya cry with pleasure cheesy popcorn. Just for Derek. 😉</p>
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