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		By: sugarplumfairy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65781&quot;&gt;sugarplumfairy&lt;/a&gt;.

Florida seems to use a lot of retired judges..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65781">sugarplumfairy</a>.</p>
<p>Florida seems to use a lot of retired judges..</p>
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		By: stillgrace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stillgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 18:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65781&quot;&gt;sugarplumfairy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, spf.  I don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s a different spelling of the last name (one &#039;f&#039; vs. two &#039;f&#039;s&#039;), and there&#039;s no listing for her on the judicial website.

http://www.jud6.org/ContactInformation/JudgesPhoneNumbers.html

There is a Judge John Schaefer.
Partial typo by some nostalgic reporter??
Maybe she came out of retirement to freelance?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65781">sugarplumfairy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, spf.  I don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s a different spelling of the last name (one &#8216;f&#8217; vs. two &#8216;f&#8217;s&#8217;), and there&#8217;s no listing for her on the judicial website.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jud6.org/ContactInformation/JudgesPhoneNumbers.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.jud6.org/ContactInformation/JudgesPhoneNumbers.html</a></p>
<p>There is a Judge John Schaefer.<br />
Partial typo by some nostalgic reporter??<br />
Maybe she came out of retirement to freelance?</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65771&quot;&gt;sandyshores50&lt;/a&gt;.

If anyone talks with the judge about the case at any time, isn&#039;t it an &lt;em&gt;ex parte&lt;/em&gt; meeting unless counsel for both sides is present?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65771">sandyshores50</a>.</p>
<p>If anyone talks with the judge about the case at any time, isn&#8217;t it an <em>ex parte</em> meeting unless counsel for both sides is present?</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 10:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65743&quot;&gt;milaminderbinder&lt;/a&gt;.

Creating a distraction while PIs burgled the judge&#039;s office?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65743">milaminderbinder</a>.</p>
<p>Creating a distraction while PIs burgled the judge&#8217;s office?</p>
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		By: moxon moxoff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 06:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65761&quot;&gt;nobs&lt;/a&gt;.

Let&#039;s take a vote on whether we think the JQC will actually do anything.  But first, a question:

Do you think the F. Wallace Pope Jr. who served as Special Counsel for the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission on a recent case is the same F. Wallace (&quot;Wally&quot;) Pope Jr. named as a defendant in the Dandar lawsuit above?

There was a recent case of judicial misconduct brought by JQC against a Judge Cohen (no obvious connection to anything Scientology).  The charges were originally filed in 2002 and a decision was handed down in August 2012 ordering public reprimand of the judge.  The public reprimand took place in open court on November 6, 2012.

The pleadings in the Cohen case show who received copies of those pleadings, including Special Counsel to the JQC:

/snip
F. Wallace Pope, Jr.
Johnson, Pope, Et al.
Special Counsel for Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission P.O. BOX 1368
Clearwater, Florida 33757 Email: wallyp@jpfirm.com

Incidentally, Mr. Pope appears to have served on the JQC at one point in time (scroll to end to see original JQC panel in Cohen case):  www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2012/sc10-348.pdf


Link to a pleading in Cohen (scroll to end for list of parties copied on pleadings):
www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/10/10-348/Filed_01-12-2011_Cohen_Response.pdf


Link to the list of briefs and documents filed in the Cohen if you want to see more:
www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/10/10-348/index.html

Public reprimand, if you want the details of the Cohen case in a nutshell (although the lesson to be learned is that a judge should never call your wife as witness in a matter pending before said judge) www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2012/sc10-348.pdf

So . . . I&#039;m going to vote for the JQC doing nothing in the Dandar case.

However, regardless of how things turn out, I thank you kindly for posting the suggestion--I had fun going down that rabbit hole.  Judicial misconduct cases crack me up sometimes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65761">nobs</a>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a vote on whether we think the JQC will actually do anything.  But first, a question:</p>
<p>Do you think the F. Wallace Pope Jr. who served as Special Counsel for the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission on a recent case is the same F. Wallace (&#8220;Wally&#8221;) Pope Jr. named as a defendant in the Dandar lawsuit above?</p>
<p>There was a recent case of judicial misconduct brought by JQC against a Judge Cohen (no obvious connection to anything Scientology).  The charges were originally filed in 2002 and a decision was handed down in August 2012 ordering public reprimand of the judge.  The public reprimand took place in open court on November 6, 2012.</p>
<p>The pleadings in the Cohen case show who received copies of those pleadings, including Special Counsel to the JQC:</p>
<p>/snip<br />
F. Wallace Pope, Jr.<br />
Johnson, Pope, Et al.<br />
Special Counsel for Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission P.O. BOX 1368<br />
Clearwater, Florida 33757 Email: <a href="mailto:wallyp@jpfirm.com">wallyp@jpfirm.com</a></p>
<p>Incidentally, Mr. Pope appears to have served on the JQC at one point in time (scroll to end to see original JQC panel in Cohen case):  <a href="http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2012/sc10-348.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2012/sc10-348.pdf</a></p>
<p>Link to a pleading in Cohen (scroll to end for list of parties copied on pleadings):<br />
<a href="http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/10/10-348/Filed_01-12-2011_Cohen_Response.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/10/10-348/Filed_01-12-2011_Cohen_Response.pdf</a></p>
<p>Link to the list of briefs and documents filed in the Cohen if you want to see more:<br />
<a href="http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/10/10-348/index.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/pub_info/summaries/briefs/10/10-348/index.html</a></p>
<p>Public reprimand, if you want the details of the Cohen case in a nutshell (although the lesson to be learned is that a judge should never call your wife as witness in a matter pending before said judge) <a href="http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2012/sc10-348.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.floridasupremecourt.org/decisions/2012/sc10-348.pdf</a></p>
<p>So . . . I&#8217;m going to vote for the JQC doing nothing in the Dandar case.</p>
<p>However, regardless of how things turn out, I thank you kindly for posting the suggestion&#8211;I had fun going down that rabbit hole.  Judicial misconduct cases crack me up sometimes.</p>
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		By: sugarplumfairy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sugarplumfairy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65778&quot;&gt;stillgrace&lt;/a&gt;.

As of July, 2012, she was still trying cases in pinellas county..

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/content/pinellas-term-limits-plaintiffs-ask-financial-help]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65778">stillgrace</a>.</p>
<p>As of July, 2012, she was still trying cases in pinellas county..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/content/pinellas-term-limits-plaintiffs-ask-financial-help" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/content/pinellas-term-limits-plaintiffs-ask-financial-help</a></p>
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		By: Hapexamendios		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65733&quot;&gt;plainoldthetan&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s pathetically farcical isn&#039;t it? And it isn&#039;t just TWTH. Those human rights videos kill me when they&#039;re so blatantly violated within the cult (except for the curious one about copyrights).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65733">plainoldthetan</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pathetically farcical isn&#8217;t it? And it isn&#8217;t just TWTH. Those human rights videos kill me when they&#8217;re so blatantly violated within the cult (except for the curious one about copyrights).</p>
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		By: burythenuts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65729&quot;&gt;Kimberly580&lt;/a&gt;.

Every square inch.....
Just like a Scientology stepford wife on Anderson Cooper!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65729">Kimberly580</a>.</p>
<p>Every square inch&#8230;..<br />
Just like a Scientology stepford wife on Anderson Cooper!</p>
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		By: stillgrace		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stillgrace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65770&quot;&gt;sandyshores50&lt;/a&gt;.

You are right!  It is indeed strange that there is very little information about her death available on the internet.  Both Tony and Marty referred to her as the &quot;late&quot; Judge Susan Schaeffer.  Maybe someone out there can shed more light on the circumstances of her death.  

I didn&#039;t follow her story after she retired, but I remember she ruled in January of 2003 that there were suspicious circumstances surrounding Lisa McPherson&#039;s death and that the wrongful death lawsuit filed against the Co$ should continue and be decided by a jury.

We all know what happened after that.  And we are learning more and more about that as the clock continues to &quot;tick tock&quot; away (tribute to Tory).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65770">sandyshores50</a>.</p>
<p>You are right!  It is indeed strange that there is very little information about her death available on the internet.  Both Tony and Marty referred to her as the &#8220;late&#8221; Judge Susan Schaeffer.  Maybe someone out there can shed more light on the circumstances of her death.  </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t follow her story after she retired, but I remember she ruled in January of 2003 that there were suspicious circumstances surrounding Lisa McPherson&#8217;s death and that the wrongful death lawsuit filed against the Co$ should continue and be decided by a jury.</p>
<p>We all know what happened after that.  And we are learning more and more about that as the clock continues to &#8220;tick tock&#8221; away (tribute to Tory).</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65762&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

See?  Another Monty Python infamous sketch, because scientology in the courtroom is too bizarre for normal, rational discussion.  I&#039;m thinking even  $800/hr conservative legal specialists have to deduct at least 10 minutes from that hour for a WTF? break.  It&#039;s all part of the plan, folks.  Baffle &#039;em with bizarre bullshit before breaking their bank.  

I get this feeling Dandar is drip, drip, dripping the hot Tabasco juiciness one delicious drop at a time.  I know I&#039;m always left with one of those text balloons above my head with a &quot;wow, I wonder what Else he&#039;s got under the hood?&quot;.

I&#039;m beginning to believe that this time, finally and for real, combined with all the other juicy drips being collected worldwide,  Miscavige might not be hit with a tidal wave to whisk his nasty butt in jail.  I think it will be this steady drip, drip, drip that will worm and dig  a Hole in the center of this scientology star chamber sheild and will slowly swallow whole the cancer at its core.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/28/david-miscavige-tried-to-meet-with-judge-in-lisa-mcpherson-case-affidavit/comment-page-1/#comment-65762">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>See?  Another Monty Python infamous sketch, because scientology in the courtroom is too bizarre for normal, rational discussion.  I&#8217;m thinking even  $800/hr conservative legal specialists have to deduct at least 10 minutes from that hour for a WTF? break.  It&#8217;s all part of the plan, folks.  Baffle &#8217;em with bizarre bullshit before breaking their bank.  </p>
<p>I get this feeling Dandar is drip, drip, dripping the hot Tabasco juiciness one delicious drop at a time.  I know I&#8217;m always left with one of those text balloons above my head with a &#8220;wow, I wonder what Else he&#8217;s got under the hood?&#8221;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to believe that this time, finally and for real, combined with all the other juicy drips being collected worldwide,  Miscavige might not be hit with a tidal wave to whisk his nasty butt in jail.  I think it will be this steady drip, drip, drip that will worm and dig  a Hole in the center of this scientology star chamber sheild and will slowly swallow whole the cancer at its core.</p>
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