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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another Narconon Arrowhead Law-suit filed:
http://mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x942834940/Negilgence-lawsuit-filed-against-Narconon-Arrowhead

Tony, we need a new thread for Narconon news.......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Narconon Arrowhead Law-suit filed:<br />
<a href="http://mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x942834940/Negilgence-lawsuit-filed-against-Narconon-Arrowhead" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x942834940/Negilgence-lawsuit-filed-against-Narconon-Arrowhead</a></p>
<p>Tony, we need a new thread for Narconon news&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		By: California		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64618</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 03:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://forum.reachingforthetippingpoint.net/index.php?topic=11997.0

All 12 U.S. Narconons sued for labor violations.]]></description>
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<p>All 12 U.S. Narconons sued for labor violations.</p>
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		By: deElizabethan		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64617</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 23:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64616&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks again California for another interesting article. This attorney doesn&#039;t know how lucky he is as he might have died there or whatever certainly not get help. Hope he can get his money bak or sue the bastards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64616">California</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks again California for another interesting article. This attorney doesn&#8217;t know how lucky he is as he might have died there or whatever certainly not get help. Hope he can get his money bak or sue the bastards.</p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 22:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/jailed-disbarred-lawyer-thomas-corea-would-rather-be-at-controversial-drug-rehab-facility-tied-to-church-of-scientology.html/

Judge refused request.  Article ends with a dig about refunds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/jailed-disbarred-lawyer-thomas-corea-would-rather-be-at-controversial-drug-rehab-facility-tied-to-church-of-scientology.html/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/11/jailed-disbarred-lawyer-thomas-corea-would-rather-be-at-controversial-drug-rehab-facility-tied-to-church-of-scientology.html/</a></p>
<p>Judge refused request.  Article ends with a dig about refunds.</p>
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		By: deElizabethan		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64615</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64614&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks California. Here&#039;s info for those not on all the FB etc. Can email or call with thanks and encouragement etc. McAlester News-Capital on story/link above.
Jeanne LeFlore, staff writer
(918) 421-2024
jleflore@mcalesternews.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64614">California</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks California. Here&#8217;s info for those not on all the FB etc. Can email or call with thanks and encouragement etc. McAlester News-Capital on story/link above.<br />
Jeanne LeFlore, staff writer<br />
(918) 421-2024<br />
<a href="mailto:jleflore@mcalesternews.com">jleflore@mcalesternews.com</a></p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 00:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x1752031894/A-decision-on-criminal-charges-against-Narconon-Arrowhead-possible-next-week" rel="nofollow ugc">http://mcalesternews.com/breakingnews/x1752031894/A-decision-on-criminal-charges-against-Narconon-Arrowhead-possible-next-week</a></p>
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		By: #C0ntr0l!		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64613</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64544&quot;&gt;Radio Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

My thoughts exactly.   I love how Goodis says he called the &quot;Offices in Los Angeles&quot;.  WHOM did he call?  I&#039;m in good standing with the church, a long-time scientologist, and I couldn&#039;t get tickets to a dog show by calling the &quot;Offices in Los Angeles&quot;!    I also love how he says he paid &quot;full face value&quot; for the Super Bowl tickets.  Even to someone who is on top of things and pursuing tickets from the start, tickets to the Super Bowl cost about 3 to 10 times face value.  If you are trying to get tickets as an afterthought, you could pay much more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64544">Radio Paul</a>.</p>
<p>My thoughts exactly.   I love how Goodis says he called the &#8220;Offices in Los Angeles&#8221;.  WHOM did he call?  I&#8217;m in good standing with the church, a long-time scientologist, and I couldn&#8217;t get tickets to a dog show by calling the &#8220;Offices in Los Angeles&#8221;!    I also love how he says he paid &#8220;full face value&#8221; for the Super Bowl tickets.  Even to someone who is on top of things and pursuing tickets from the start, tickets to the Super Bowl cost about 3 to 10 times face value.  If you are trying to get tickets as an afterthought, you could pay much more.</p>
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		By: anonymad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did anyone find it interesting that Gary Smith releases the following statement?

&quot;Narconon has enjoyed and looks forward to the continued support of the church of scientology and its members. And narconons treatment approach is based on the secularized version of the writings of the founder of the scientology religion, l ron hubbard&quot;

I find this very interesting given the fact NarCO$ has gone to such efforts (previously) to deny this connection. Knowing this verbiage likely comes from a team of Scilons (the word &#039;secularized&#039; is key here) and has been vetted way up pipeline, it is clearly an effort to get out in front of something they know, or suspect is coming. 

I&#039;m not sure what the angle is, but this is a pretty stark political about-face for NarCO$.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone find it interesting that Gary Smith releases the following statement?</p>
<p>&#8220;Narconon has enjoyed and looks forward to the continued support of the church of scientology and its members. And narconons treatment approach is based on the secularized version of the writings of the founder of the scientology religion, l ron hubbard&#8221;</p>
<p>I find this very interesting given the fact NarCO$ has gone to such efforts (previously) to deny this connection. Knowing this verbiage likely comes from a team of Scilons (the word &#8216;secularized&#8217; is key here) and has been vetted way up pipeline, it is clearly an effort to get out in front of something they know, or suspect is coming. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what the angle is, but this is a pretty stark political about-face for NarCO$.</p>
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		By: anonymad		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 15:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64568&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Accidental&quot; doesn&#039;t mean NarCO$ isn&#039;t liable. And I would not be surprised if all the deaths were classified as accidental by a coroner. The legalese here is going to what happened pre and post-mortem as well as how this facility is representing itself to the general public.

It&#039;s painfully clear, NarCO$ misrepresents itself to the public. The problem - as has been pointed out so many times here and elsewhere - is that there is no &quot;wave&quot; of media/political discontent. Be it Sciolontology or NarCO$, the outrage is typically regional, not national. The Scilons aren&#039;t stupid, regardless of what one thinks of their bizarre belief system. They continue to have the funds to drag out cases in court and suffocate the system. History tells them that this approach quells popular dissent and eventually the &quot;event&quot; falls from the forefront of most peoples minds. Ultimately, they either settle quietly or the other side gives up due to the inability to maintain the cash flow to fight them.

To the Scilons, this is a win.

Where this case at NarCO$ gets interesting is in the details. Rehab facilities are dabbling in the medical/psycological arena and this opens them up to scrutiny from &#039;educated&#039; folks with fancy degrees and sometimes, positions of power. States legislators and department heads don&#039;t like to look foolish and certainly don&#039;t like to look like some business is getting over on the &quot;State&quot;.

We are already seeing legislators moving to enact legislation in response to what has happened here. The local media is being an advocate for the good people of their community and as long as they continue to push this story, I think it&#039;s very possible Arrowhead will go the way of the other NarCO$ facilities in Canada and elsewhere.

To the community, this WILL be a win.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64568">California</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Accidental&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean NarCO$ isn&#8217;t liable. And I would not be surprised if all the deaths were classified as accidental by a coroner. The legalese here is going to what happened pre and post-mortem as well as how this facility is representing itself to the general public.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s painfully clear, NarCO$ misrepresents itself to the public. The problem &#8211; as has been pointed out so many times here and elsewhere &#8211; is that there is no &#8220;wave&#8221; of media/political discontent. Be it Sciolontology or NarCO$, the outrage is typically regional, not national. The Scilons aren&#8217;t stupid, regardless of what one thinks of their bizarre belief system. They continue to have the funds to drag out cases in court and suffocate the system. History tells them that this approach quells popular dissent and eventually the &#8220;event&#8221; falls from the forefront of most peoples minds. Ultimately, they either settle quietly or the other side gives up due to the inability to maintain the cash flow to fight them.</p>
<p>To the Scilons, this is a win.</p>
<p>Where this case at NarCO$ gets interesting is in the details. Rehab facilities are dabbling in the medical/psycological arena and this opens them up to scrutiny from &#8216;educated&#8217; folks with fancy degrees and sometimes, positions of power. States legislators and department heads don&#8217;t like to look foolish and certainly don&#8217;t like to look like some business is getting over on the &#8220;State&#8221;.</p>
<p>We are already seeing legislators moving to enact legislation in response to what has happened here. The local media is being an advocate for the good people of their community and as long as they continue to push this story, I think it&#8217;s very possible Arrowhead will go the way of the other NarCO$ facilities in Canada and elsewhere.</p>
<p>To the community, this WILL be a win.</p>
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		By: sugarplumfairy32		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/20/1208/comment-page-1/#comment-64607&quot;&gt;John P. Capitalist&lt;/a&gt;.

Didn&#039;t see the show but just read the Daily Mail article about preston&#039;s appearance on The Doctors.. She talked about &quot;...the dangers In our environment she believes caused the neural development disorder...&quot;

The biggest danger in our environment is a &#039;church&#039; who encourages their parishioners to forego life-maintaining medication.. Jett&#039;s death had nothing to do with his autism.. He had a seizure disorder.. He wasn&#039;t taking his medication and he had a seizure and hit his head in the bathtub.. Seizures don&#039;t have to kill.. And they can be well controlled with meds.. 

Sure co$ discourages the use of meds.. lrh was an sob who wanted to clear the planet.. of epileptics, homeless, lepers, diabetics and anyone else less able than himself..]]></description>
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<p>Didn&#8217;t see the show but just read the Daily Mail article about preston&#8217;s appearance on The Doctors.. She talked about &#8220;&#8230;the dangers In our environment she believes caused the neural development disorder&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The biggest danger in our environment is a &#8216;church&#8217; who encourages their parishioners to forego life-maintaining medication.. Jett&#8217;s death had nothing to do with his autism.. He had a seizure disorder.. He wasn&#8217;t taking his medication and he had a seizure and hit his head in the bathtub.. Seizures don&#8217;t have to kill.. And they can be well controlled with meds.. </p>
<p>Sure co$ discourages the use of meds.. lrh was an sob who wanted to clear the planet.. of epileptics, homeless, lepers, diabetics and anyone else less able than himself..</p>
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