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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-589853</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63358&quot;&gt;missing the point&lt;/a&gt;.

Unfortunately, you make new turds, encoded, and making new bullshit to audit, once you believe the meter is &quot;verifying&quot; and &quot;validating&quot; an image that comes into your mind, which you take into past lives. Soon you&#039;re a destroyer of civilizations in other parts of the Milky Way galaxy, you&#039;ve killed men, women and children, blown up entire planets. Or been a knight in the Middle Ages blah yada blah yada blah. The meter will indicate an imaginary picture as well as an image from your whole track, which is to say, exactly what you are auditing is your imagination, creating worlds for you and lifetimes for you to audit.

Poor mtp - you are missing the point, that it is just your imagination. The day you &quot;see&quot; the reality of that is the day you will cringe inside, then begin your recovery. Back into humanity. Away from insanity. Of auditing your imagination.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63358">missing the point</a>.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, you make new turds, encoded, and making new bullshit to audit, once you believe the meter is &#8220;verifying&#8221; and &#8220;validating&#8221; an image that comes into your mind, which you take into past lives. Soon you&#8217;re a destroyer of civilizations in other parts of the Milky Way galaxy, you&#8217;ve killed men, women and children, blown up entire planets. Or been a knight in the Middle Ages blah yada blah yada blah. The meter will indicate an imaginary picture as well as an image from your whole track, which is to say, exactly what you are auditing is your imagination, creating worlds for you and lifetimes for you to audit.</p>
<p>Poor mtp &#8211; you are missing the point, that it is just your imagination. The day you &#8220;see&#8221; the reality of that is the day you will cringe inside, then begin your recovery. Back into humanity. Away from insanity. Of auditing your imagination.</p>
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		By: Mala Moragain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mala Moragain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2014 08:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok, so maybe I&#039;m slow on the uptake and a bit behind the times...  Has any one else seen this &quot;internal&quot; Scientology video for orientation?  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

Apparently, they claim they can help every one!!!  Maybe we should be dropping Scientologist into the Middle East to heal the world!  LOL  OMG!  SMH]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so maybe I&#8217;m slow on the uptake and a bit behind the times&#8230;  Has any one else seen this &#8220;internal&#8221; Scientology video for orientation?  </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0</a></p>
<p>Apparently, they claim they can help every one!!!  Maybe we should be dropping Scientologist into the Middle East to heal the world!  LOL  OMG!  SMH</p>
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		By: Brandon Roberts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 06:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[scientology is a cult and we&#039;ll lay off xenu when it stops being so funny seriously for anyone making christianity jokes this is a thousand times more of a goldmine at least my god isn&#039;t an evil alien overlord and it&#039;s evil]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scientology is a cult and we&#8217;ll lay off xenu when it stops being so funny seriously for anyone making christianity jokes this is a thousand times more of a goldmine at least my god isn&#8217;t an evil alien overlord and it&#8217;s evil</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63422</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Beatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63252&quot;&gt;N. Graham&lt;/a&gt;.

The pedophole version of OT 8 has conflicting stories.   One person admitted he forged that issue, and put it out there.


I&#039;ve heard that upcoming ex Sea Org members of note, will weigh in on the validity, or not of it also, in their books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63252">N. Graham</a>.</p>
<p>The pedophole version of OT 8 has conflicting stories.   One person admitted he forged that issue, and put it out there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard that upcoming ex Sea Org members of note, will weigh in on the validity, or not of it also, in their books.</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63421</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck Beatty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63025&quot;&gt;dennis l erlich&lt;/a&gt;.

Plus 10!


I want to interview you Dennis, for a week, some time in the future.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63025">dennis l erlich</a>.</p>
<p>Plus 10!</p>
<p>I want to interview you Dennis, for a week, some time in the future.</p>
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		By: MTP		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63420</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63416&quot;&gt;blach blach&lt;/a&gt;.

Pretty sure it&#039;s also a business college and consulting service that has *claimed* to have trained many executives in several top fortune 500 companies or influenced it&#039;s organizational policies. Scientology isn&#039;t &quot;trying&quot; to be above the law of the land, it absolutely *knows* it is based on it&#039;s superiority over &quot;wog think&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63416">blach blach</a>.</p>
<p>Pretty sure it&#8217;s also a business college and consulting service that has *claimed* to have trained many executives in several top fortune 500 companies or influenced it&#8217;s organizational policies. Scientology isn&#8217;t &#8220;trying&#8221; to be above the law of the land, it absolutely *knows* it is based on it&#8217;s superiority over &#8220;wog think&#8221;.</p>
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		By: MTP		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MTP]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63413&quot;&gt;PreferToBeAnon2&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Do independent auditors have insurance and business licenses to run it out of their homes?&quot;

Pretty sure there are no licenses required for what would be considered* spiritual counseling. (*considered by WHOM is a different topic, which I will leave for another spirited discussion on another day)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63413">PreferToBeAnon2</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Do independent auditors have insurance and business licenses to run it out of their homes?&#8221;</p>
<p>Pretty sure there are no licenses required for what would be considered* spiritual counseling. (*considered by WHOM is a different topic, which I will leave for another spirited discussion on another day)</p>
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		By: MTP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 01:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63417&quot;&gt;MTP&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot; Does the Indie auditor encourage psychological help from professionals in the face of psychosis?&quot;

 I don&#039;t think I answered this question very well, hence another stab at it. 

I would hope any auditor worth his salt will do a psychometric or some sort of evaluation of a person before starting an auditing program. I don&#039;t see Indies taking unnecessary risks with someone they don&#039;t think they can help. I&#039;m going to sidestep any further discussion on this topic as I&#039;m sure many here will contend that going to see an auditor is a mistake in the first place, or that a licensed psychologist is a better place for someone to take their troubles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63417">MTP</a>.</p>
<p>&#8221; Does the Indie auditor encourage psychological help from professionals in the face of psychosis?&#8221;</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t think I answered this question very well, hence another stab at it. </p>
<p>I would hope any auditor worth his salt will do a psychometric or some sort of evaluation of a person before starting an auditing program. I don&#8217;t see Indies taking unnecessary risks with someone they don&#8217;t think they can help. I&#8217;m going to sidestep any further discussion on this topic as I&#8217;m sure many here will contend that going to see an auditor is a mistake in the first place, or that a licensed psychologist is a better place for someone to take their troubles.</p>
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		By: MTP		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 00:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63412&quot;&gt;PreferToBeAnon2&lt;/a&gt;.

These are excellent questions. I&#039;m not an Indie auditor and many would probably say, if someone is ill, they should pursue medical attention. I would hope that many Indies have learned by the plethora of F-Up&#039;s committed by the Cult that Hubbard was no medical professional, and many people simply may need to get well physically. Re: Type 3&#039;s, I&#039;ve heard from a few Indie Auditors that severely stressed out people need whatever auditing they seek out, and that the cult is famous for turning their backs on these people for fear of more Lisa McPheresons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/11/13/lay-off-xenu-an-ex-scientologists-plea/comment-page-1/#comment-63412">PreferToBeAnon2</a>.</p>
<p>These are excellent questions. I&#8217;m not an Indie auditor and many would probably say, if someone is ill, they should pursue medical attention. I would hope that many Indies have learned by the plethora of F-Up&#8217;s committed by the Cult that Hubbard was no medical professional, and many people simply may need to get well physically. Re: Type 3&#8217;s, I&#8217;ve heard from a few Indie Auditors that severely stressed out people need whatever auditing they seek out, and that the cult is famous for turning their backs on these people for fear of more Lisa McPheresons.</p>
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		By: blach blach		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blach blach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[scientology is a monster with many heads, you can cut one head out and the mosnter will still be alive by the other heads, the heads are in the form of; is a con, is a mafia type organization, it has truth, it has lies, is a cult, is a busines, is military boot camp, it violate human rights, etc etc, scientology is trying to be above the law of the land, and the monster still alive and will continue to be alive for centuries, thanks to the Antichrist himself LRH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scientology is a monster with many heads, you can cut one head out and the mosnter will still be alive by the other heads, the heads are in the form of; is a con, is a mafia type organization, it has truth, it has lies, is a cult, is a busines, is military boot camp, it violate human rights, etc etc, scientology is trying to be above the law of the land, and the monster still alive and will continue to be alive for centuries, thanks to the Antichrist himself LRH.</p>
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