They are both adults.

Am I too late to rant on this one?
They filmed this gem in upper Michigan – hardwood forest. Nothing like the NW forest, with which btw I am intimately familiar. Spokane is east of the Cascades, in open, rolling wheat country with no trees to speak of, on the Idaho border nowhere near Seattle. No strategic importance whatsoever and nary a forest in sight.
Now if they’d set it in Idaho – North Koreans vs. skinheads, that might have been a movie….

You make an interesting comment. Christopher Isherwood (author of the memoir “I Am a Camera” which became the basis for “Cabaret”) knew Crowley, and said of him that all he really believed in were the drugs he was addicted to.

I’m sure the bio mentioned that he did try to start up a cult community in Italy, but was forced to leave after a girl died under questionable circumstances. The murals he painted there still exist, I think – at least there are photos of them – pretty creepy. But then, Crowley’s schtik was being creepy. But there was real creepiness under the stagy creepiness.

I thought $cientologists only got *Confucius* rite after going past a word they did not fully understand

It’s ja-pi-nes, “Guey Tu Japines.”

Even Crowley was not so bad. In his biography (as written by Israel Regardie) he boasted of being perfectly capable of starting a cult. But he didn’t: OTO wasn’t his originally and you can probably count the number of living, breathing Thelemites on fingers and toes. All of Crowley’s associates were rather disparaging of him, unlike the glowing continued worship of Elron. I think Crowley was perfectly happy fucking up his own life and relationships in relative privacy and for that I give him kudos of a sort.

Thanks, Dan. As I said to Chuck, that was encouraging to read about the renos. I was long gone by then 🙂 ASHO was always the ‘forgotten by upper management org’ back in the late 70s-80s. Selling training didn’t bring in the big bucks like it did at the other orgs. No toilet paper for ASHO for years. On ARS, poster Warrior ( M Plummer) explained what was happening during those years, about the financial planning aspect and how the monies in were spent. See his 2 posts on this thread.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.religion.scientology/kO63ZT_2GPw/KacAFRWVKacJ

I would have objected to the Bronze Lion on the stairs, too. Didn’t like it at all when I saw it on the promo. It took too much space away from where students regularly congregated on breaks and obscured the view.

Loved the paragraph about the bas reliefs etc, lol

Thanks, Chuck. That was encouraging to read.

“Fleas the size of rats sucked on rats the size of cats And ten thousand peoploids split into small tribes”
– David Bowie.