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		By: CDN		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember when I  was first researching Scientology a few years ago I visited the Dallas Org a couple of times. It seems strange that they would want to pull the Spanish speakers away from their &quot;Ideal Org&quot; because most of the public that I saw there were Spanish speakers. You take the  Spanish speakers away from the primary org in Irving, and you do have few people left there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when I  was first researching Scientology a few years ago I visited the Dallas Org a couple of times. It seems strange that they would want to pull the Spanish speakers away from their &#8220;Ideal Org&#8221; because most of the public that I saw there were Spanish speakers. You take the  Spanish speakers away from the primary org in Irving, and you do have few people left there.</p>
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		By: Claritysav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claritysav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 02:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59672&quot;&gt;grundoon&lt;/a&gt;.

But DM and RTC lost the copywright again which is why they did the GAK and GAT redo s. virtually all of LRH s scion material is available- the only thing DM was able to copywright was the new books as a set only-  even the individual books comprising the set are not copywrighted -  so the people who feel they have to go thru COS To get their scion materials are doing so because DM is telling them they have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59672">grundoon</a>.</p>
<p>But DM and RTC lost the copywright again which is why they did the GAK and GAT redo s. virtually all of LRH s scion material is available- the only thing DM was able to copywright was the new books as a set only-  even the individual books comprising the set are not copywrighted &#8211;  so the people who feel they have to go thru COS To get their scion materials are doing so because DM is telling them they have.</p>
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		By: sydjazz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 20:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59752&quot;&gt;sugarplumfairy32&lt;/a&gt;.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/church-of-scientology-in-brisbane-recruitment-drive-amid-tom-cruise-katie-holmes-split-falling-membership/story-e6freoof-1226419871129 this is the latest from Australia. Not much at all since. I have never been letter dropped.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59752">sugarplumfairy32</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/church-of-scientology-in-brisbane-recruitment-drive-amid-tom-cruise-katie-holmes-split-falling-membership/story-e6freoof-1226419871129" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/church-of-scientology-in-brisbane-recruitment-drive-amid-tom-cruise-katie-holmes-split-falling-membership/story-e6freoof-1226419871129</a> this is the latest from Australia. Not much at all since. I have never been letter dropped.</p>
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		By: poisonivyherself		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59723&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

Not just claiming copyright, but getting people to buy the new volumes and pay for them again!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59723">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>Not just claiming copyright, but getting people to buy the new volumes and pay for them again!!</p>
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		By: poisonivyherself		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59757&quot;&gt;bobxtm&lt;/a&gt;.

That biography of Hubbard is too much.  It makes me think of his affirmations in which he constantly tries to remind himself not to lie so much:  &quot;You can tell all the romantic tales you wish. You will remember them, you do remember them. But you know which ones were lies. You are so logical you will tell nothing which cannot be believed. But you are gallant and dashing and need tell no lies at all. You have enough real experience to make anecdotes forever. Stick to your true adventures.Tell nothing discreditable but tell them well. Or if you wish, as youwill, tell adventures which happened to others. People accept them better. You can recall in detail tales of adventure from all you ever heard or read.&quot;
Ha ha!  You don&#039;t need to lie...but when you do, make sure it is convincing.
This is where I think the indies have their work cut out for them.  Consider the &quot;Source&quot; of &quot;Source.&quot;  It strikes me as more than unlikely that someone who had to remind himself not to compulsively lie about every detail of his life would, in the case of his work, suddenly become sage, sober and truthful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59757">bobxtm</a>.</p>
<p>That biography of Hubbard is too much.  It makes me think of his affirmations in which he constantly tries to remind himself not to lie so much:  &#8220;You can tell all the romantic tales you wish. You will remember them, you do remember them. But you know which ones were lies. You are so logical you will tell nothing which cannot be believed. But you are gallant and dashing and need tell no lies at all. You have enough real experience to make anecdotes forever. Stick to your true adventures.Tell nothing discreditable but tell them well. Or if you wish, as youwill, tell adventures which happened to others. People accept them better. You can recall in detail tales of adventure from all you ever heard or read.&#8221;<br />
Ha ha!  You don&#8217;t need to lie&#8230;but when you do, make sure it is convincing.<br />
This is where I think the indies have their work cut out for them.  Consider the &#8220;Source&#8221; of &#8220;Source.&#8221;  It strikes me as more than unlikely that someone who had to remind himself not to compulsively lie about every detail of his life would, in the case of his work, suddenly become sage, sober and truthful.</p>
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		By: bobxtm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59672&quot;&gt;grundoon&lt;/a&gt;.

This description of Hubbard&#039;s, ahem, career from the Better Business Bureau letter is absolutely priceless:

&quot;The subject of Scientology is largely the work of L. Ron Hubbard, author and scientist, who began his work in __ while a student of nuclear physics at George Washington University in Washington, D.C.

Hubbard was also trained in psycho-analysis, studied personally with Freud and who instituted psycho-analyses in the U.S. Navy for use in flight surgery.  Hubbard was also trained by Dr. William Alan White, then superintendent of St. Elizabeth&#039;s, the government asylum at Washington.

Hubbard&#039;s interest in the mind was from the standpoint of physical energy and, later, anthropology.  A member of the Explorer&#039;s Club in good standing for eighteen years, Hubbard has led several expeditions and has widely studied, in Asia, Alaska, and Latin America barbaric cultures for what they might reveal concerning the motivations of humanities.  In World War II he served with distinction as a naval officer and was selected as Naval Civil Affairs by reason of his knowledge of the Oriental psychology&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59672">grundoon</a>.</p>
<p>This description of Hubbard&#8217;s, ahem, career from the Better Business Bureau letter is absolutely priceless:</p>
<p>&#8220;The subject of Scientology is largely the work of L. Ron Hubbard, author and scientist, who began his work in __ while a student of nuclear physics at George Washington University in Washington, D.C.</p>
<p>Hubbard was also trained in psycho-analysis, studied personally with Freud and who instituted psycho-analyses in the U.S. Navy for use in flight surgery.  Hubbard was also trained by Dr. William Alan White, then superintendent of St. Elizabeth&#8217;s, the government asylum at Washington.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s interest in the mind was from the standpoint of physical energy and, later, anthropology.  A member of the Explorer&#8217;s Club in good standing for eighteen years, Hubbard has led several expeditions and has widely studied, in Asia, Alaska, and Latin America barbaric cultures for what they might reveal concerning the motivations of humanities.  In World War II he served with distinction as a naval officer and was selected as Naval Civil Affairs by reason of his knowledge of the Oriental psychology&#8221;</p>
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		By: Nina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59735&quot;&gt;Chocolate Velvet&lt;/a&gt;.

I&quot;m dressing up as Tory for Halloween- even got her blessing!  I call her Baby 
Tiger ;-)]]></description>
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<p>I&#8221;m dressing up as Tory for Halloween- even got her blessing!  I call her Baby<br />
Tiger 😉</p>
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		By: Chuck Beatty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59747&quot;&gt;tessa&lt;/a&gt;.

It would be before.

Reference, the Factors, the very first Factor.   and another reference, Time Track Bulletin #1, and other references on Native State and the No Games Condition.   It is the No Games Condition of being God, where one  exists as a totally omnipotent and all knowing God, and this state of power and omniscience is playfully written into the Hubbard science fiction short story, called &quot;One Was Stubborn&quot; which truly IS the single most important science fiction story that directly relates to Native State.

No one&#039;s made these connections, and I&#039;m sad that what I just said didn&#039;t make it into Hugh&#039;s and Janet&#039;s books.   Maybe it will make it into Tony&#039;s or Larry Wright&#039;s books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59747">tessa</a>.</p>
<p>It would be before.</p>
<p>Reference, the Factors, the very first Factor.   and another reference, Time Track Bulletin #1, and other references on Native State and the No Games Condition.   It is the No Games Condition of being God, where one  exists as a totally omnipotent and all knowing God, and this state of power and omniscience is playfully written into the Hubbard science fiction short story, called &#8220;One Was Stubborn&#8221; which truly IS the single most important science fiction story that directly relates to Native State.</p>
<p>No one&#8217;s made these connections, and I&#8217;m sad that what I just said didn&#8217;t make it into Hugh&#8217;s and Janet&#8217;s books.   Maybe it will make it into Tony&#8217;s or Larry Wright&#8217;s books.</p>
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		By: media_lush (@media_lush)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[media_lush (@media_lush)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59678&quot;&gt;Mooki&lt;/a&gt;.

As I said above, it looks like the Sun journalist went to the main afternoon shindig but not the evening ball whitch appeared to be VIP guests only. The Daily Mail is one of the most pro anti-scientologist newspapers out there. People magazine is pretty much the opposite - many have discussed that it has an editor or high powered &quot;mole&quot; who is a scientologist or very much pro Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59678">Mooki</a>.</p>
<p>As I said above, it looks like the Sun journalist went to the main afternoon shindig but not the evening ball whitch appeared to be VIP guests only. The Daily Mail is one of the most pro anti-scientologist newspapers out there. People magazine is pretty much the opposite &#8211; many have discussed that it has an editor or high powered &#8220;mole&#8221; who is a scientologist or very much pro Scientology.</p>
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		By: MissWog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/28/sunday-funnies/comment-page-1/#comment-59709&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

Totally weird weather! Moved down here last year from DC and I can promise you they won&#039;t have power for days! Last time, a couple months ago, they lost power for 5 days after that one went through. Hope the Sea Org hurries up and fixes this global warming issue :/]]></description>
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<p>Totally weird weather! Moved down here last year from DC and I can promise you they won&#8217;t have power for days! Last time, a couple months ago, they lost power for 5 days after that one went through. Hope the Sea Org hurries up and fixes this global warming issue :/</p>
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