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	Comments on: The Scientology-Nation of Islam Alliance: Sideshow or Armageddon?	</title>
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		By: John hanner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John hanner]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dianetics can get expensive. I hope NOI knows what there getting into.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dianetics can get expensive. I hope NOI knows what there getting into.</p>
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		By: LA&#8217;s Sheriff Lee Baca and Simpsons Actress Nancy Cartwright Shill for Scientology &#124; ortegaunderground		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LA&#8217;s Sheriff Lee Baca and Simpsons Actress Nancy Cartwright Shill for Scientology &#124; ortegaunderground]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 11:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] And over the years, he&#8217;s showed himself to be very sympathetic to the Church of Scientology. But we&#8217;re not really sure how many voters Baca expects to pick up with a photo op like this one. This odd event was put together by the Rev. Alfreddie Johnson (in the white cap and bow tie), a rather unusual character who promotes the ongoing alliance between Scientology and the Nation of Islam. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] And over the years, he&#8217;s showed himself to be very sympathetic to the Church of Scientology. But we&#8217;re not really sure how many voters Baca expects to pick up with a photo op like this one. This odd event was put together by the Rev. Alfreddie Johnson (in the white cap and bow tie), a rather unusual character who promotes the ongoing alliance between Scientology and the Nation of Islam. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: sugarplumfairy32		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59886&quot;&gt;Pearl E. Gates&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol.. You ain&#039;t right, CCOHP..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59886">Pearl E. Gates</a>.</p>
<p>Lol.. You ain&#8217;t right, CCOHP..</p>
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		By: banchuka		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[banchuka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59891&quot;&gt;Claritysav&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s another point people are missing. Locally (near Flag), there was a push some years back to raise funds so that the po&#039; black folk could be trained.  They were not expected to pay for it themselves, but there was a push for donations so books and training time could be purchased for black NOI ministers - this was a project that to me appeared to work for Scn as not only a new revenue source but a &#039;social betterment&#039; project to trot out to outsiders and crow that Scn was really doing something to help the less fortunate.  I&#039;m sure the FSM model of selling books and classes appealed to the NOI as well; we train you for free and then expect you to move your flock in here for a percentage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59891">Claritysav</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another point people are missing. Locally (near Flag), there was a push some years back to raise funds so that the po&#8217; black folk could be trained.  They were not expected to pay for it themselves, but there was a push for donations so books and training time could be purchased for black NOI ministers &#8211; this was a project that to me appeared to work for Scn as not only a new revenue source but a &#8216;social betterment&#8217; project to trot out to outsiders and crow that Scn was really doing something to help the less fortunate.  I&#8217;m sure the FSM model of selling books and classes appealed to the NOI as well; we train you for free and then expect you to move your flock in here for a percentage.</p>
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		By: OTVIIIisGrrr8!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 05:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We in RTC greet you in the name of the Honorable COB RTC David Miscavige, the Beneficent. All praise be due unto COB.

Regarding the Nation of Islam, we in RTC already have our Battle Plan in place. Even a brief perusal of our scriptures will reveal to one and all that the Church of Scientology  considers Islam to be an R6 implant religion: http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2012/10/29/scientologys-plans-for-the-nation-of-islam/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We in RTC greet you in the name of the Honorable COB RTC David Miscavige, the Beneficent. All praise be due unto COB.</p>
<p>Regarding the Nation of Islam, we in RTC already have our Battle Plan in place. Even a brief perusal of our scriptures will reveal to one and all that the Church of Scientology  considers Islam to be an R6 implant religion: <a href="http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2012/10/29/scientologys-plans-for-the-nation-of-islam/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2012/10/29/scientologys-plans-for-the-nation-of-islam/</a></p>
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		By: Claritysav		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claritysav]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59891&quot;&gt;Claritysav&lt;/a&gt;.

Re COS pushing their &quot;secular&quot; programs thru NOI would also be an indirect strategy -  they may be able to piggyback on the NOI lobby for grants and funding for various programs to push into the inner city -  but I think it would be hard for them to &quot;sell&quot; those programs retail direct to the black communitty-  the black community in the US is one of the most religious community&#039;s as well-  as soon as there is a whiff of some cult religion being behind Narconon, criminon, applied schol.  I think the black communitty would fight it  -  see the success Torry Magoos videos have had already -  once the churches in those communities Started spreading the word it would be a trend difficult to combat -  of course in any large religion there will be a few shills in Sheeps clothing and false profits selling out for a buck but most would fight it IMO 

But failure onThe back end does not mean the COS amd NOI would not get some big chunks of Govnmt cash on the front end to give it a try]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59891">Claritysav</a>.</p>
<p>Re COS pushing their &#8220;secular&#8221; programs thru NOI would also be an indirect strategy &#8211;  they may be able to piggyback on the NOI lobby for grants and funding for various programs to push into the inner city &#8211;  but I think it would be hard for them to &#8220;sell&#8221; those programs retail direct to the black communitty-  the black community in the US is one of the most religious community&#8217;s as well-  as soon as there is a whiff of some cult religion being behind Narconon, criminon, applied schol.  I think the black communitty would fight it  &#8211;  see the success Torry Magoos videos have had already &#8211;  once the churches in those communities Started spreading the word it would be a trend difficult to combat &#8211;  of course in any large religion there will be a few shills in Sheeps clothing and false profits selling out for a buck but most would fight it IMO </p>
<p>But failure onThe back end does not mean the COS amd NOI would not get some big chunks of Govnmt cash on the front end to give it a try</p>
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		By: deLizabeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deLizabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59893&quot;&gt;dodothelaser&lt;/a&gt;.

dodothelaser: They are at 2005 now and will be great to reach 2013 by December.
I finally made it on the lists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59893">dodothelaser</a>.</p>
<p>dodothelaser: They are at 2005 now and will be great to reach 2013 by December.<br />
I finally made it on the lists.</p>
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		By: Nina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59892&quot;&gt;Tory Christman&lt;/a&gt;.

Yay!! The official ok from Baby Tiger herself!!! Now I&#039;m going to make up business cards with links so people can look at both sides... Thanks Tory &#060;3]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59892">Tory Christman</a>.</p>
<p>Yay!! The official ok from Baby Tiger herself!!! Now I&#8217;m going to make up business cards with links so people can look at both sides&#8230; Thanks Tory &lt;3</p>
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		By: Nina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59886&quot;&gt;Pearl E. Gates&lt;/a&gt;.

HA!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59886">Pearl E. Gates</a>.</p>
<p>HA!!</p>
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		By: Nina		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59901&quot;&gt;ReneeG&lt;/a&gt;.

Same]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/27/the-scientology-nation-of-islam-alliance-sideshow-or-armageddon/comment-page-1/#comment-59901">ReneeG</a>.</p>
<p>Same</p>
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