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		By: Nate Nielsen		</title>
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This is an inside look at how Silkin Management gets clients on board:

1. Telemarketer contacts practice, dentists, veterinarians, chiropractors.

2. Contact is rarely with Dr. on first contact as they are usually occupied.
a. Telemarketer leaves message for dr. which is kept minimal and vague. They are trained to say: &quot;I want to interview Dr. for Solutions Magazine on the challenges of owning a private practice.&quot;

3. Telemarketer gets Dr. to volunteer for a &quot;survey&quot; which is intended to create &quot;ruin&quot; and get Dr. thinking about his shortcomings.

3. Telemarketer ends call saying &quot;thanks for your time. As compensation for your time we offer a complimentary practice analysis, I don&#039;t know anything about that, and I just work for the magazine. Hold on and I&#039;ll pass you to an &#039;analysis coordinator.&#039; (transfers call)

4. &quot;Analysis coordinator&quot; says: &quot;what we&#039;re offering is a &#039;thorough practice analysis.&#039; Our consultant will actually fly out to see you to conduct a thorough analysis of your practice. We look at everything from staff to patient flow...&quot; More to build ruin. Typically a 20-30 minute cycle.

5. &quot;ACer&quot; will get ruin and say, &quot;OK great! All I need to schedule a time for you to speak with our analyst&#039;s assistant. She will be the one scheduling our visit with you at your practice. (anywhere in the US or Canada). &quot;ACer&quot; then schedules with Dr. To speak with her. She ruins him further, then schedules a concrete date for in-person analysis. Analysis consists of ruining him into a $30k/year long program. They encourage taking out big loans, will litigate until they are blue in the face to deny any refunds upon dissatisfaction.

7. OT8 is dispatched to Dr.&#039;s practice. His wife is usually there, nobody else, as to create 2D drama. These meetings/confessionals start in the evening and often go until two or three in the morning until the guy is tired, ruined, and...ruined. Then he goes for the kill! Gets contracts to sign and some financial assurance for services.

6. Dr. and staff come to consulting firm to do comm course and more. At the mercy of supervisors, just like the org.

7. Dr. is out 35K. Because they often want to get something out of services (even if unhappy) they give it everything they got. And his staff are pissed! Scared to lose their jobs. Then you (doctor) get sued and regardless of whether you win or lose, you lose legal fees and are paying a cult as well. 10% of all fees go directly to WISE, World Institute of Scientology Enterprises.

All involved in this are scientologists, with the possible exception of telemarketing posts (two first contacts).

Further info and questions:

nathanielsen@gmail.com
Nate Nielsen

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an inside look at how Silkin Management gets clients on board:</p>
<p>1. Telemarketer contacts practice, dentists, veterinarians, chiropractors.</p>
<p>2. Contact is rarely with Dr. on first contact as they are usually occupied.<br />
a. Telemarketer leaves message for dr. which is kept minimal and vague. They are trained to say: &#8220;I want to interview Dr. for Solutions Magazine on the challenges of owning a private practice.&#8221;</p>
<p>3. Telemarketer gets Dr. to volunteer for a &#8220;survey&#8221; which is intended to create &#8220;ruin&#8221; and get Dr. thinking about his shortcomings.</p>
<p>3. Telemarketer ends call saying &#8220;thanks for your time. As compensation for your time we offer a complimentary practice analysis, I don&#8217;t know anything about that, and I just work for the magazine. Hold on and I&#8217;ll pass you to an &#8216;analysis coordinator.&#8217; (transfers call)</p>
<p>4. &#8220;Analysis coordinator&#8221; says: &#8220;what we&#8217;re offering is a &#8216;thorough practice analysis.&#8217; Our consultant will actually fly out to see you to conduct a thorough analysis of your practice. We look at everything from staff to patient flow&#8230;&#8221; More to build ruin. Typically a 20-30 minute cycle.</p>
<p>5. &#8220;ACer&#8221; will get ruin and say, &#8220;OK great! All I need to schedule a time for you to speak with our analyst&#8217;s assistant. She will be the one scheduling our visit with you at your practice. (anywhere in the US or Canada). &#8220;ACer&#8221; then schedules with Dr. To speak with her. She ruins him further, then schedules a concrete date for in-person analysis. Analysis consists of ruining him into a $30k/year long program. They encourage taking out big loans, will litigate until they are blue in the face to deny any refunds upon dissatisfaction.</p>
<p>7. OT8 is dispatched to Dr.&#8217;s practice. His wife is usually there, nobody else, as to create 2D drama. These meetings/confessionals start in the evening and often go until two or three in the morning until the guy is tired, ruined, and&#8230;ruined. Then he goes for the kill! Gets contracts to sign and some financial assurance for services.</p>
<p>6. Dr. and staff come to consulting firm to do comm course and more. At the mercy of supervisors, just like the org.</p>
<p>7. Dr. is out 35K. Because they often want to get something out of services (even if unhappy) they give it everything they got. And his staff are pissed! Scared to lose their jobs. Then you (doctor) get sued and regardless of whether you win or lose, you lose legal fees and are paying a cult as well. 10% of all fees go directly to WISE, World Institute of Scientology Enterprises.</p>
<p>All involved in this are scientologists, with the possible exception of telemarketing posts (two first contacts).</p>
<p>Further info and questions:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:nathanielsen@gmail.com">nathanielsen@gmail.com</a><br />
Nate Nielsen</p>
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		By: Zahnarzt zwingt seine Angestellte zu Scientology-Veranstaltung, Arbeitsgericht verurteilt ihn dafür zu 348.000 Dollar Strafe … &#171; Blog gegen Scientology &#8230;		</title>
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		By: Zahnarzt zwingt seine Angestellte zu Scientology-Veranstaltung, Arbeitsgericht verurteilt ihn dafür zu 348.000 Dollar Strafe … &#124; Blog gegen Scientology		</title>
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		By: Bob G		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50258&quot;&gt;Bob G&lt;/a&gt;.

There are different levels of being freed from evil spirits and many who have been slimed by their involvement in COS are certainly not possessed but would need lessor prayers for deliverance. Of course many of the leaders could be possessed and if they have lost any desire to be freed from their spiritual prison their possession could be considered a perfect possession.  And for them there is no hope unless God could restore in them a desire to be freed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50258">Bob G</a>.</p>
<p>There are different levels of being freed from evil spirits and many who have been slimed by their involvement in COS are certainly not possessed but would need lessor prayers for deliverance. Of course many of the leaders could be possessed and if they have lost any desire to be freed from their spiritual prison their possession could be considered a perfect possession.  And for them there is no hope unless God could restore in them a desire to be freed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50256&quot;&gt;Bob G&lt;/a&gt;.

There are different levels of being freed from evil spirits and many who have been slimed by their involvement in COS are certainly not possessed but would need lessor prayers for deliverance. Of course many of the leaders could be possessed and if they have lost any desire to be freed from their spiritual prison their possession could be considered a perfect possession.  And for them there is no hope unless God could restore in them a desire to be freed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50256">Bob G</a>.</p>
<p>There are different levels of being freed from evil spirits and many who have been slimed by their involvement in COS are certainly not possessed but would need lessor prayers for deliverance. Of course many of the leaders could be possessed and if they have lost any desire to be freed from their spiritual prison their possession could be considered a perfect possession.  And for them there is no hope unless God could restore in them a desire to be freed.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50248&quot;&gt;MidwestMom&lt;/a&gt;.

I spoke wrongly about exorcism. The truth is that even the most severly possessed person must have at least a part of their will that wants to be free. As most COS members don&#039;t want to be free  exorcism would not work. But prayers against evil could be used to break down evil strongholds in the org. so that their power to do evil can be broken and so that those who want to be free can be freed from their grip. And those who want to be freed from the spiritual and emotional bondages from their participation and belonging to COS could pray prayers renouncing the evil of Scientology and could be prayed with to be freed from any evil spirits involved in the org.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50248">MidwestMom</a>.</p>
<p>I spoke wrongly about exorcism. The truth is that even the most severly possessed person must have at least a part of their will that wants to be free. As most COS members don&#8217;t want to be free  exorcism would not work. But prayers against evil could be used to break down evil strongholds in the org. so that their power to do evil can be broken and so that those who want to be free can be freed from their grip. And those who want to be freed from the spiritual and emotional bondages from their participation and belonging to COS could pray prayers renouncing the evil of Scientology and could be prayed with to be freed from any evil spirits involved in the org.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50247&quot;&gt;MidwestMom&lt;/a&gt;.

I spoke wrongly about exorcism. The truth is that even the most severly possessed person must have at least a part of their will that wants to be free. As most COS members don&#039;t want to be free  exorcism would not work. But prayers against evil could be used to break down evil strongholds in the org. so that their power to do evil can be broken and so that those who want to be free can be freed from their grip. And those who want to be freed from the spiritual and emotional bondages from their participation and belonging to COS could pray prayers renouncing the evil of Scientology and could be prayed with to be freed from any evil spirits involved in the org.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2012/10/05/oregon-dentist-ordered-to-pay-348000-after-pressuring-an-employee-to-attend-scientology-symposium-the-full-order/comment-page-1/#comment-50247">MidwestMom</a>.</p>
<p>I spoke wrongly about exorcism. The truth is that even the most severly possessed person must have at least a part of their will that wants to be free. As most COS members don&#8217;t want to be free  exorcism would not work. But prayers against evil could be used to break down evil strongholds in the org. so that their power to do evil can be broken and so that those who want to be free can be freed from their grip. And those who want to be freed from the spiritual and emotional bondages from their participation and belonging to COS could pray prayers renouncing the evil of Scientology and could be prayed with to be freed from any evil spirits involved in the org.</p>
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		By: Woman Wins $348,000 From Boss Who Tried To Force Her To Attend Scientology Training - EyeOnCelebs		</title>
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		By: Mrs. Libnish		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[When it comes to my pets, I have been known to lose my shit for MUCH less than that.  In the waiting room, screaming, demanding copies of my files and letting them know what horrible assholes they are.  I&#039;m sorry you were subjected to that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to my pets, I have been known to lose my shit for MUCH less than that.  In the waiting room, screaming, demanding copies of my files and letting them know what horrible assholes they are.  I&#8217;m sorry you were subjected to that.</p>
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