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Danny Masterson: Victim C gets support from a veteran actress, but will LAPD answer the call?

[Danny Masterson in 2003]

On Friday, the Underground Bunker revealed that the LAPD is investigating That ’70s Show actor Danny Masterson in three cases of rape or sodomy of women who, like Masterson himself, were members of the Church of Scientology. In our story, we included police reports for two women we referred to as Victim A and Victim B. And later that day, the LAPD itself confirmed that it was investigating the three cases of sexual assault.

Again, we want to emphasize that Masterson has not been charged with a crime, and he has put out a statement denying any wrongdoing. Meanwhile, in a Feb. 22 letter to LAPD Chief Charlie Beck, Victim A complained that the investigation has been plagued with mistakes and inaction caused, she believes, by the LAPD’s relationship with the Church of Scientology.

The allegations spelled out in the police reports for Victim A and Victim B were disturbing, and they were similar to each other. At that time, we had no information about Victim C.

But now, we’ve talked with Victim C, who has told us her story about being attacked by Masterson late in the year 2003, a story she says she has told to the LAPD. We’ve also spoken to a veteran Hollywood actress who tells us Victim C told her about the alleged rape just after it happened, and who is trying to get the LAPD to hear her corroboration of Victim C’s story.

Victim C tells us that both of her parents were involved in Scientology, and her mother went far, becoming a case supervisor and getting to OT 3 on the “Bridge to Total Freedom” before getting less involved after she got pregnant. As a result, Victim C didn’t grow up in the church, but instead was encouraged to get auditing when she experienced anxiety in high school.

“I enjoyed the beginning courses. I was naive. I was seduced by the idea that Scientology had answers,” she says. “I met all these people, and it felt like I had a community. And Danny was a part of that community.”

Through the Hollywood Celebrity Centre, she got invited to events where Masterson and his friends socialized. One night, a friend of hers asked her to come along and meet up with Danny and one of his friends for a drink.

“Danny was just staring at me the whole night, flirting intensely,” she remembers. Later, she heard from her friend that Danny was still talking about the encounter. And then, he began sending her messages.

“He was texting me furiously. ‘Come over, now.’ He would speak to me in a commanding way. ‘Get over here right now. You are coming over here right now,’ he’d say. I was 23 years old at the time, and I was really shy, so this was totally disorienting,” she says.

“I thought, well, if he liked me, he should at least take me out. But he kept texting. ‘You’re going to come over, have a glass of wine, and get into my jacuzzi.’ I thought that he was being playful, that it was like a game. ‘No, I don’t want to do it like that,’ I told him.”

After more prodding, she agreed to come over for a drink.

“When I got there, I thought, OK, we’ll sit down and have a glass of wine and talk and see how that goes. But as soon as he opened the door, he held out a glass of wine to me. ‘Drink that wine, right now. Drink it,’ he said, like he was commanding me.”

She says he led her to the back of the house where his jacuzzi was, and he began to demand that she take off her clothes and get in the water. She said she told him that she didn’t want to.

“Do it now. Get in the water.”

Before coming over, she says she did have one glass of wine, and then she had the one Danny gave her. And it was having an unusual effect on her, she says. “I felt really tired and drunk.”

And it seemed to have an effect on her memory. “I don’t really remember being in the jacuzzi. But I can remember that we were in his shower, and I was saying ‘No, I don’t want to do this.’ He entered me, and I flipped out because I had been saying I didn’t want to do this.”

Her next memory is being in his bed. “He flipped me over and just started pounding me. I was trying not to vomit. I said no like 50 times. But it was just sort of happening. I was saying no a lot, but it didn’t matter to him. I kept trying not to puke on his bed while he was doing it. It was pretty brutal. I said no 50 fucking times, but he wasn’t listening. And it was really horrible the way he was doing it.”

At some point, she says, she said to him that if he wasn’t going to stop, she at least wanted him to put on a condom.

“I can’t remember if he did it or not. He kept going and going and going, and I was a rag doll, basically. When I did try to turn over, he kept flipping me over.”

He didn’t choke or slap her, as Victim B alleged. And she didn’t lose consciousness, as alleged by Victim A. But in other ways Victim C’s allegations are very similar to those being made by the other two women. After staying up late into the night, Victim C eventually made her way home.

“It was so confusing to me what had happened. I misunderstood for so long what it was. Because he didn’t hit me, I didn’t realize it was rape for a long time.”

Masterson didn’t try to repeat the performance. “He disposed of me completely,” she says. “He never tried to see me again. And I was ashamed of all of it.”

Unlike the other two victims, Victim C didn’t get pulled in by the Church of Scientology after the incident. And she didn’t bring it to the church’s attention.

She explains that before Danny, she’d had a Scientologist boyfriend who, after she broke up with him, attacked her at a party where they happened to run into each other.

“We made an appointment with the Scientology chaplain,” she says. And she told the chaplain what had happened: “Outside the house where the party was there were some long stairs. He had pushed me down and raped me on them. I vomited on the stairs. Then we got in a cab and went back to my apartment. But they both said that wasn’t rape. And anyway, you can’t really say that kind of thing about a Scientologist. That’s not what rape is, they said.”

She had that experience in mind in her confusion about what had happened with Masterson. “There was nothing good about that experience with the chaplain, and there was no way I was going to go there with Danny, one of their favorite celebrities, and tell them, ‘Well, I know I haven’t been on course a lot, but here’s what he did to me.’ No way.”

She was still trying to understand what she’d really experienced, she says. “It took me a while to understand what had happened. So I didn’t go to the church, and I didn’t go to the police. I was scared of Danny and the church. I’d already had a bad experience. I didn’t want to put myself in that position.”

If Victim C was having trouble understanding what had happened, her friend tells us she knew immediately that what had happened to Victim C was a sexual assault.

The friend, a veteran Hollywood actress, says she’s a regular reader of the Underground Bunker, and when she read Friday’s story, she immediately thought of her friend telling her about what had happened with Masterson soon after the incident.

“She had gone over to hang out with Danny. He was pressuring her to drink, and they were fooling around. She was telling him that she didn’t want to have sex. And she was freaked out that it was unprotected. She was pretty young at the time and embarrassed. And I told no one,” the actress says.

And Victim C told very few other people. About three years ago, she and her actress friend drifted apart.

Then, several months ago, Victim C heard from Victim A, who had heard about her from a mutual acquaintance.

“We started to talk. That was when she told me about [Victim B], and I was just in shock. We talked a little about Leah Remini, and about making police reports. [Victim A] said that the detective would call me. And then she did. And I told the detective my story.”

She credits the other women with giving her the determination to get involved in the investigation. “[Victim A] has really been there for me. I only came forward when I learned that it had happened to other women. I never was going to come forward if it only happened to me. I didn’t want the church coming after me,” she says.

After our story ran Friday, the actress, who hadn’t spoken to Victim C in three years, contacted her to see if she’d read it. Then Victim C told her that she was, in fact, one of the women that the LAPD was talking to.

Yesterday, the actress emailed the LAPD, offering to tell them what Victim C told her in 2003 as corroboration of her story.

The actress says she got a strange reply from Captain William Hayes, calling her by a man’s name that in no way resembled her own: “Thanks, [man’s name], I will give to the I/O’s [investigating officers].”

The actress emailed back, pointing out what her actual name was, and offered her phone number.

She says she hopes the LAPD cares enough to give her a call.

 
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Talking Scientology with Jezebel

It was a real pleasure to talk with Madeleine Davies and Bobby Finger of Jezebel.

 

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,684 days.
Quailynn McDaniel has not seen her brother Sean in 1,787 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,281 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,321 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,033 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 500 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,618 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,788 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,108 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,083 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 439 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,741 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 848 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,250 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,123 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 704 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,209 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,453 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,562 days.

 
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  • Kestrel

    Feeling boxed in, Danny DonkeyPunch? The Freewinds knows how you feel. Junior’s grounded again after a two-night jaunt to CuraΓ§ao by the lines and ample stern of the Mein Schiff 5. The Navigator of the Seas is also pictured. Let’s watch Scientology, Inc. and the LAPD navigate this one.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93069a185f542ac94e62dd9f7c1342057730426351f9311f91cc35d3a07197bf.jpg

    • Ben Franklin

      Every time I see the Freewinds next to one of those giant Cruise Ships I just laugh. The OTs must be feeling very tiny and overwhelmed in their little boat. Just like in real life, Scientology is such a tiny thing in the scheme of things. They do have a loud mouth though and a nasty attitude, so it’s kind of hard to just ignore the little fellow.

      • Mick Roberts

        “They do have a loud mouth though and a nasty attitude, so it’s kind of hard to just ignore the little fellow.”

        Attitude reflects Leadership.

      • Chewkacca

        Small as the Fleecewinds is, it is still empty. Just like all of their Orgs.
        AAAROOUGH!

    • chukicita
  • ze moo

    The US Congress is looking into some tort reform On scheme would make putting together a class action suit much more difficult.

    Al Franken wants to keep ‘binding arbitration’ under control.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/gop-lawmakers-are-about-to-pass-two-laws-that-would-make-it-nearly-impossible-to-sue-corporations/

  • Shivani33

    “The Ranch” on Netflix, starring Ashton Kutcher, Danny Masterson, Debra Winger and Sam Elliott, already was renewed for a 2nd season. Ashton Kutcher is listed as one of 7 exec. producers, along with Don Reo and Jim Patterson, former exec. producers of “Two and a Half Men.” Danny Masterson, depending on which source is being read, is listed as not only the second-billed actor on “The Ranch” but also as one of three “producers” or “co-executive producers.”

    Will there be any comments, or any repercussions, from anyone who represents or is invested in “The Ranch,” or not?

    • Juicer77

      My guess is there will be radio silence, unless charges are filed.

      • Shivani33

        That’s my guess, too. The walls of silence, from the cherch, the police and from other vested interests feel to be piled high and deep. But that provides all the more reason to ask questions, for crying out loud. Also, maybe there’s a contractual morals clause with potential for violation, already waiting in the wings. Even if there isn’t, who wants to have this stench in the midst of their lives or their business? As the old saying goes, “you’re only as sick as your secrets.” And yes. I’m frustrated at how LOUD this silence is. Even an arrest, never mind any conviction, looks unlikely. However, the court of public opinion is still alive. Here, Masterson’s windows have been broken, just like Hubbard’s and Miscavige’s windows are broken. Please forgive me if this seems like a rant.

        • Juicer77

          Not a rant at all! A morals clause is highly unlikely, given that this is Hollywood. The only rule that matters there is: Thou Shalt Not Get Found Out.
          The LAPD’s response to these cases is horrifying. I realize they have deep-seated problems and a crazy amount of work to do. But if they could get their act together and be more efficient it would go a long way! There are probably lots of dedicated, hardworking detectives shaking their heads at how ridiculous their department looks. Sadly, they seem to be a very small group out of this bunch.

    • Joe

      and also it’s tough to get out of legal relationships with people. Unless there was some sort of clause in the contract that says they could either leave or kick him out for something like this, there’s nothing they can do.

  • littlefish

    HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS. HOLY SHIT.

    I’m here at fancy handbags and this guy in his 30s comes in on a skateboard and asks if he can leave some promotional material and it’s SCIENTOLOGY SHIT – with the address for the org here in Denver.

    I know i gave him the craziest look as I said no and had to run next door to my neighbor to tell her and warn her.

    • Mick Roberts

      Should’ve taken it and trashed it. Then if he comes back later and asks where they are, just tell him there was so much interest from your customers and folks were lining up to get it. Could’ve saved some other poor store owner. He just needed to find a place to drop it off so he can report his stats being up for the week.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Best to recycle it.

        • I once worked as a volunteer in a warehouse, where donations to a chain of UK charity shops (AKA thrift stores?) were sorted, in the book department.

          Anything with L Ron Hubbard’s name on it went into huge boxes to be sold for pulp at Β£8 per tonne. It just didn’t sell in the shops.

          From pulp he came, and to pulp he is returning (around here, at least).

          • Missionary Kid

            I think that’s true in most donation centers. I did find a $cientology book at a thrift store, not far from the Pasadena org. I bought it to keep it out of other people’s hands. It was cheap.

            I would, however, like to have a copy of Dianetics, so I can whip it out the next time I demonstrate and read the nutty passages aloud to the $cientologists.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              You’ll lose your voice. From your mother trying to abort you to…don’t get me started.

            • Missionary Kid

              *Snickersnort*

    • Juicer77

      Did you talk to him at all?

      • littlefish

        Well at first I tried to talk to him about our bags bc the bag he was carrying was torn to hell, and then he handed me pamphlets for the Oxford Capacity Test and I think my face gave it away that I knew what it was and was not stoked bc he left with a quickness.

        I did go out to the street to see if I could see him. I honestly don’t know what I would have said or asked him.

        • Kim O’Brien

          i wanna ditch work and buy you a drink . We can discuss what to do next time LOL πŸ™‚

          • littlefish

            Hahahaaha! I was just so caught off guard! I know they must exist for that org to be downtown, but to have someone coming to all the shops on Larimer trying to hand out pamphlets was odd.

        • Juicer77

          It’s tough to think of what to say, especially when he appeared so suddenly! Maybe some of the reactions he got will prod him to look online for more info.

    • flyonthewall

      should have lured him to the back of the store, hogtied him and kept him there until he promised not to hand out anymore Sci shit

    • Jimmy3

      What a fucking weirdo… He still skateboards after 30?

      • Mick Roberts

        Poor guy might have been wiped clean by his so-called “church” and a skateboard is all he can afford.

      • And he skateboards in a store?

        • littlefish

          RIGHT … at least he got off and picked it up when he realized how small it is (boutique sized).

      • littlefish

        not well. my neighbor said he ate it just outside my door.

        • Jimmy3

          Bahahahahaha.

        • Elegant Mess

          “At cause” eh?

      • GoneToPlaid

        I upvoted you and then I had to take it back when I remembered my brother-in-law is over 30 and still skateboards. sorry Jimmy3

    • littlefish

      I also spoke to our neighbor one shop down who happens to be German and said she recognized the pamphlet too, due to exposes done on German TV.

    • littlefish

      I don’t wanna come across like SOME people on blogs and just reply to myself ad nauseum with novellas, but I also wanted to add that I was very obviously READING THIS BLOG & THE COMMENTS WHEN HE CAME IN, and if he had looked at my computer he definitely would have seen the headline. I regret not turning the screen towards him more.

      • Missionary Kid

        I hope the practiced flee tech.

    • chukicita

      If he shows up again, maybe just be kind.

      Ask him why he thinks you’d be interested. Ask if he has a stat he’s expected to meet. And what happens if he doesn’t. Offer him some water or a stick of gum. Ask if he knows what “informed consent” means and just treat him like a human being.

      There but for the grace of Xenu go I.

  • Jgg2012

    Today is International Women’s Day (March 8), a good day to support rape victims.

  • Observer

    OT but…WTF? Was the title of the bill chosen by a committee of 12-year-olds? This is not satire.

    I’m so embarrassed.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1275/text

    ETA: who wants to place bets on the title being YUUUUUUGELY false?

    • flyonthewall

      You know Trump told them to call it that

      • Observer

        Of course he did.

    • Jimmy3

      Dammit. They scrapped my suggested title: Super Ultimate Mega Wolverine Healing Care Plan

      • Observer

        Idiots. Yours is way more dignified.

      • flyonthewall

        my HMO said fusing Adamantium to my skeleton was an unnecessary procedure and wouldn’t cover it. Unnecessary!? Smh

        • Jimmy3

          That’s some bullshit. They’re always finding new ways to rip people off. If I were you I’d write a strongly worded letter of complaint.

          • flyonthewall
            • Jimmy3

              Very nice. I like. Are there other mini figs in the set?

            • flyonthewall

              this is just a guy’s creation, not an official thing.

            • Jimmy3

              Well now I hate it. That means Marvel/Fox aren’t getting their money. And Marvel needs their cut of that to help with the reported $1 billion dollar budget for the two Infinity War movies.

            • flyonthewall

              they do have official X-Men lego though, from previous movies. The only ones they made are Storm, Wolverine (2 variants), Cyclops and Magneto. They also have a Deadpool. I have them all too πŸ™‚

              They’ll be ok, prob just get the Chinese to fund it. Hadn’t heard of this project. So many comic book movies, so little time. They’ll never stop making them you know. They must be stopped.

      • Newiga

        Your title is adamantium, their title is rusty tin.

    • Frodis73

      i saw that last night on twitter an thought it was a joke at first!!

    • Elegant Mess

      Oh, for the love of Pete! “It’s gonna be yuuuge. The best. You’re going to love it. Believe me.”
      FFS

    • madame duran

      Did they write out the bill with Crayola markers?

    • Dibythesea

      “The World’s Greatest Healthcare Plan”? WTF?

      Someone said to me the other day that it will only be 8 years at the most that we have to have this narcissist in office. 8YRS? Unacceptable!

      • Elegant Mess

        It’s. Only. Been. Six. Weeks.
        I doubt we can survive even 4 years of the new status quo.

      • Frodis73

        8 fucking minutes is unacceptable!!!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I thought they already released a bill by this name?
      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/republicans-truce-on-obamacare/484709/

      ETA: Oh, it’s just Pete Sessions reintroducing his ridiculous bill because the new ridiculous bill wasn’t ridiculous enough for his liking.
      http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/08/gop-lawmaker-introduces-world-s-greatest-healthcare-plan-of-2017.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

  • LAPD should subpoena Danny Masterston’s PC folders from Scientology. If he’s a serial rapist then he’ll likely have taken this up in auditing. Scientology won’t report the crime but they will record it.

    • Mick Roberts

      I’m afraid the priest-penitent privilege would be argued so they avoid having to hand it over.

      • Even if a crime has been committed?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          We debated that here the other day. What I came up with is it varies from state to state.

          • Well, Scientology is in a state of denial most of the time.

        • Mick Roberts

          Unless it’s child abuse, from my understanding…….yes….

        • Ben Franklin

          Yes. A criminal can confess a crime to a priest and a priest would not be legally obligated to reveal such a confession to law enforcement officials. The priest would encourage the person to confess to the police instead.

          • Missionary Kid

            There is one glaring difference, and that is that a priest doesn’t write anything down. They may also have it on video.

            • Missionary Kid

              ETA: I meant that $cientology may have Danny’s confession on video, not any priest.

          • Pretty scary.

            • Ben Franklin

              Some states have been trying to change their laws to force priests to testify and reveal confessionals especially in cases of child abuse which are sometimes by priests themselves.

      • sizzle8

        But the victim could subpoena her folders if she brought the incidentt up in session or in an Ethics interview. Laura Decrezenso set a precedent.

        • Missionary Kid

          Excellent point.

        • Mick Roberts

          I don’t think this would apply to Victim C in today’s story (unless she got her files for the first rape that was before Masterson), but might apply to Victims A and B. Perhaps they could subpoena their own files, but they couldn’t subpoena Masterson’s, so it might be his word against their word. And I wouldn’t put it past this “church” to purge the files of these victims to remove any possible incriminating evidence that may be contained within.

      • Quick empathy

        How can scientology get away with using information in a person’s auditing file when they want to embarrass and harrassing a former member. Isn’t that breaking the trust between the auditor and the “church” member? I thought I read somewhere that CoS used that confidential spin when the were getting their tax exemption.

        • Mick Roberts

          They claim that they are using this information to defend themselves. I think everyone knows it’s BS (including CoS), but that seems to be their justification.

      • Priest-penitent, psychotherapist-patient type confidentiality usually has exceptions in most places.

        http://www.shouselaw.com/therapist-privilege.html

        Exceptions

        The California psychotherapist-patient privilege is not unlimited. There are certain exceptions to the privilege that allow the disclosure of psychotherapist-patient communications in court.

        These include:

        Cases where the defendant chooses to make his/her mental condition an issueβ€”by pleading not guilty by reason of the California insanity defense, or claiming that s/he is not competent to stand trial;4

        Cases where the defendant sought or used the psychotherapist’s services to enable anyone to commit a crime, or to escape being caught or arrested after committing a crime;5 and

        Situations where the psychotherapist reasonably believes that the patient’s mental condition makes him/her dangerous to him/her-self, to someone else, or to someone else’s property.6

  • itsIBBy

    I know the high road would be innocent until proven guilty, but… I dont really fucking care. I believe the survivors.

    I’ll tell my story, as hard as it is, because its cathartic every time I tell it. Caution if youre triggered in any way. The following isnt pretty.

    I was in a long term relationship with a guy. 4 years. Living together, etc etc etc. He became controlling, abusive, and basically a monster. I was regularly subjected to emotional, physical, verbal, and sexual abuse. Consent? Lol whats that? Consent by fear isn’t consent. I didn’t leave, because I was gas lit into believing that I couldn’t do any better, wasn’t worth any better, and deserved what I got. It ended because HE dumped ME. I was no longer useful because it wasn’t fun anymore. That is, I stopped fighting back, so there was no more motivation to provoke, abuse, and yeah, rape. I can imagine what it was like for these victims because it happened to me

    Power is a strong motivator. Masterson has been programmed to believe he’s important, both by the Hollywood machine and Scientology. I think he believe’s that the rules dont apply to him, and like confession in Catholicism, he can “audit” his crimes away and be absolved. Using these women feeds his inflated sense of importance and power. The fact that he chose the moniker DJ Donkey Punch is telling to me, considering the definition of Donkey Punch on Urban Dictionary.

    I believe he’s guilty as sin, and I hope the LAPD gets some balls and investigates

    • Jimmy3

      Innocent until proven guilty pertains only to the criminal justice system. Outside of any courtroom he’s already guilty as sin. I’m a bailiff in the court of public opinion. So I know.

      • itsIBBy

        I’m suddenly picturing you as Bull from Night Court

    • Glen

      This is some hard stuff, itslbby. I’m so sorry that you had to experience this but I’m really glad that you survived, have gained perspective and have made a life away from this sort of awful abuse.

  • nottrue
    • Todd Tomorrow

      Seen it.

    • Ben Franklin

      What was that all about? Was it a planned thing or she just came out of nowhere?

      • Glen

        She is a b-list celebrity from her role on Boardwalk Empire and has had some incidents in her personal life that make her appear to be not always rational. Apparently she saw the cameras and somehow assumed they were there to film her.

        • madame duran

          So basically, it’s Sunset Boulevard revisited.

          • Glen

            “All right, Mr. DeMille, I’m ready for my close-up.”

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Oh, she was the jilted lover of the main character, Nucky Thompson, who ended up having the prohibition agent’s secret surrogate baby, right?

        • Frodis73

          I wouldn’t even call her b-list…more like D list.

      • madame duran

        “You can’t film me…My name is Paz…PAAAZ. By the way, I’m an actress and I’ve done over 45 films…”

        Girl, who cares? Now, GET OUT!!!!
        She’s such an attention seeker.

        • Ben Franklin

          Just found out that her full name is actually Paz de la Huerta. She is indeed an actress but seems to have trouble keeping her life together. TMZ have several stories of her being drunk in public. There is one story where she even got undressed and changed in public.

          • MarcabExpat

            She’s a well-known “Hollywood free spirit,” i.e. nutbag.

            • Ben Franklin

              I had never even heard of her before, but, then again am not very much into movies, TV shows etc. I was surprised that she is actually a real actress and not just some wannabe who have never been casted in a role before

            • MarcabExpat

              Yeah, she is, but so are a lot of people who have made a big splash without ever really justifying their existence πŸ˜‰

        • MarcabExpat

          “You can’t film me.”
          “We’re not filming you.”

          Short, sweet and perfect.

    • MarcabExpat

      Great reactions by them both. Literally the only thing that could make a movie about Scientology even weirder is Paz de la Huerta showing up accidentally and thinking it’s all about her. Poetically perfect.

    • GrangerFX

      And now you have some appreciation for why the LAPD is not so surprised at all the “shocking” allegations about the COS. This is LA. This type of stuff happens all the time. Oh you say your son disconnected from you? Cry me a river. They have celebrities marrying their own underage adopted daughters. Rape and molestation only matters when you can get 14 victims on Oprah.

      BTW did Paz get a credit?

      • GrangerFX

        Apologies if this came out wrong. I was trying to explain this from the (messed up) point of view of the LAPD. This is not my opinion.

  • Todd Tomorrow
  • Roger Hornaday

    Gloria Allred.

  • Sunny Sands

    Tony wrote down thread about some sci PI expenditures, “you wouldn’t believe what they’re spending”. It sounds like he knows what the PIs are earning, which could mean they were 1) arrested and it’s part of the police report, 2)the PIs talked, or 3) someone cutting the checks has spilled the beans.

    • Kestrel

      Oooh … hadn’t thought of that.

    • flyonthewall

      Idk, he’s been doing this for awhile, prob has good idea how much they cost

    • Tony Ortega

      Or I’m looking at a globe and calculating what it cost to send private investigators to the far ends of the fucking earth to fuck with people I know.

      • FredEX2

        Tony, as a previous licensed Investigator I can tell you that PIs make anywhere from $40/hr ( plus gas & mileage ) and on up to around $250/hr for seasoned PIs with years of experience and a specialty like surveillance. Most often the average for surveillance with video or pics is $100/hr. so for a full 10-12hr day it would be about $1000-1200. I have no idea what Scientology PIs make…I believe much more than that and all their travel & incidental costs are covered too.

  • Mrs. V.

    I read this article earlier this am, and meant to come back to comment. But I just can’t. Happy National Women’s Day.

  • Missionary Kid
  • Lynnea66

    Sadly, based on the details of her story, the statute of limitations will bar them from pursing this case. She doesn’t seem to qualify under one of the exceptions. At least people are hearing her story and supporting her.

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe that in California, if a victim was intimidated not to report the crime, that there is no statute of limitations. The reality is that $cientology will deny any such thing, bringing out “witnesses” to spout “acceptable truths”.

      • Frodis73

        This is true, but in the case of Survivor #3 there doesn’t seem to be any info that she was intimidated…in general yes, but not outright by the church or Danny. If she wanted to go after that ex of hers for the first incident, yeah I’d say she might have a case.

      • Lynnea66

        Yes, but in this case there was no interference by Co$. Victim C clearly stated she didn’t involve anyone at the church in the situation. She made the decision not to speak to them, so it would be difficult to argue now that she was intimidated into silence.

  • In a perfect world we could all report crimes and just leave it up to the cops to take care of it.There are avenues of recourse if you feel that you’re being treated unfairly or incompetently by the detective working your case. Please don’t be afraid to call whoever runs her precinct and complain about the poor handling of the case.

  • TexasBroad

    Still not seeing this story picked up today by other media. How long did it take the other day for other outlets to post something?

    • Tony Ortega

      This is a tough one for them to grab. The Bunker has gone where it’s tough for them to follow at this point.

      • TexasBroad

        Sigh. OK.
        But hey…tomorrow’s story looks promising! You do love a good teaser.

      • Jimmy3

        They must not be big stars.

        • Ben Franklin

          They often grab stories where they can go directly to Tony’s sources for the same information. In other words, some want to run with the story but they want to claim it as their own with only minor attribute to Tony if any. There were some outlets who were quoting Huffington Post and Associated Press for the story instead of doing the right thing and giving credit to the original source.

          For today’s story, they would have to talk to Victim C to corroborate or to steal it and make it their own story. For the previous story they would go with the LAPD confirmation of the investigation as proof.

          • Jimmy3

            Bunch of jerks. They probably don’t even get jokes.

            • Ben Franklin

              You are lucky you never met Hubbard, otherwise, you might have spent a lot of years on the RPF just for J&D alone.

        • Observer

          ISWYDT

    • I think it would be if veteran actress revealed her name.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    IAS Humanitarian Nego Omnia Danny Masterson has just donated $5,000,000 towards the construction of the Great Hall of Exact Data II, a vitally needed edifice to be built on the 1.5 acre lot the Church just purchased from the Aquarium.

    Among its many features, the Great Hall of Exact Data II will contain catacombs and a series of tunnels that will allow “OT’s in Trouble” to flee to a small flotilla of submarines and offshore power boats for a quick trip to Cuba and thence to points unknown.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fd5e322844384185fbbfcb452ffabde11ba9402ff8925c07b4766fd10a5be7a0.jpg

    • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

      + one Germania

      • Missionary Kid

        Bobby, that’s what I was going to post, but I had to double check.

        • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA
          • Missionary Kid

            What gave it away for me was the yuuuge dome.

            • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

              Robert Hughes on the Dome.

              The Dome was the core of the dream for the new Capital, which would no longer be called Berlin (a name that, to the puritanical Hitler, carried unpleasant associations of sin and relativism), but the more ancient-sounding Germania. All that remains of it now is a stump built in a leafy suburb to determine whether the ground would support such loads. The Dome was to be 800ft across and hold 180,000 people. It was a conceptual nightmare because, of course, it dwarfed the figure of Hitler, making him less than an ant.

              Great things could have been done with the technology of TV projection, but that did not exist then. The problem was never solved and Dome was never built. Speer’s most successful piece of architectural theatre was the brilliant feat of announcing the FΓΌhrer at NΓΌrnberg by training hundreds of searchlight beams up into the sky, like Doric columns of light. It was a magnificent conception which, 60 years later, would be plagiarised by the Americans to mark the disappearance of the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001. No credit was given to Speer, who was dead by then.

              https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2003/feb/01/architecture.artsfeatures

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks.

            • J. Swift

              Anything worth doing is worth doing yuuuge.

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s what Hitler said.

          • J. Swift

            Great find on that model. I chose Speer’s work to represent Scientology’s Great Hall of Exact Data II as Miscavige’s maniacal and insane goal to spend the Church broke remaking Clearwater in his image is on a par with what Hitler wanted to do with Berlin.

            From Memoirs of the Third Farce: “And in the evenings COB would spend hours pouring over his model of ‘Ideal Clearwater’ as he called it. He would bend over the model and peer down the grand boulevard called Miscavige Straße. All of the RTC Grandees would attend to Herr Miscavige and agree with him that the Ideal Clearwater would be the capital of a cleared planet and that he, COB RTC Herr David Miscavige, was the biggest being in all of the universes and was greater than even the blue person Krishna.”

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0ed854604a43859a3c8068d7e47d6bc7980844c1311a8fc73b89b5046ae46732.png

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Truly a hall fit for the fastest growing movement of the 1930s… I mean… 21st Century.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Oh-TITs (Operating Thetans In Trouble) were first identified as a sub-group by zealous OT Committee members who noticed that, despite talking the talk, there were some among their ever-diminishing ranks who were definitely not walking the $cn walk when it came to their actual donations to the cherch, in terms of both time and money.

      Since every true OaTy knows that entree to $cn Heaven requires that you give far beyond what any lesser being could bear and continue to do so until the end, it’s no surprise that each and every member of this elite group of super beings knows exactly what his fellow bridge toppers have been donating, as well as their regular income and assets. So, whenever someone’s giving rate drops below a certain informally known, but rigidly enforced limit, then their fellow OaTies get pretty concerned, and thus the KRs and catty little comments begin to fly.

      But now, in a sure sign of the impending $cilon apocalypse, a tipping point has been reached where there are currently more Oh-TITs than there are loyally contributing OTC members in most of the regional OTC groups throughout the land. Once that flow starts in earnest, if there’s nothing to stop it, all will soon be swirling down the drain!

      Wise OaTies are taking this opportunity to quietly shield their vulnerable assets (e.g., first born children) from this increasingly ravenous cult and are backing ever-so slowly toward the exits. The reality here that’s becoming more and more apparent to all with each passing day is that the cult is in swift decline; so you can deny it until the end, or join us here in the real world…before all your assets are gone and you end up with nothing to show for it except some lousy bowling trophy.

      • J. Swift

        Oh-TITs TITS (Operating Thetans In Trouble, This is the Session).

  • PeaceMaker

    I hope this is on-topic enough, and not already posted.

    I’ve continued to keep an eye on trends in coverage of the Masterson case, and just today happened to come across this new piece, with a totally pro-Masterson spin and no mention of the Scientology cover-up allegations, from a site called ENSTARZ:

    Danny Masterson: Ex-Scientologist Leah Remini Manipulated ‘False’ Rape Charges

    http://www.enstarz.com/articles/189889/20170307/danny-masterson-ex-scientologist-leah-remini-manipulated-false-rape-charges.htm

    It refers to only the one case in which the victim didn’t file charges until recently, though it does link to Tony’s original Bunker article.

    • Roger Hornaday

      I’ll pass on that.

    • Ben Franklin

      It drives me crazy when these fools call the Church of Scientology critics anti-scientology. Reporting on alleged rape by a Scientologist is not being against Scientology. Scientology only becomes an issue when a Scientologist commits a crime and then uses religion as cover to stop people from asking questions about the alleged crime.

    • ze moo

      “Danny Masterson is convinced that he might be implicated by Leah Remini.
      She might have egged three women to advance and file charges against
      him in order to promote her anti-Scientology TV show, says Danny’s rep.” The multiple ‘mights’ indicate implausible deniability. The only ability confided by Lron.

      That ‘article’ has more waffling than Waffle House.

      • Frodis73

        Her freaking show ended like over a month ago! Of all the excuses they could have tried to use, that one is really lame.
        Now that I think about it, it is meant for those in the bubble anyway and not us on the outside.

      • Quick empathy

        Everytime CoS blames Leah for their problems the ratings for her show go up!

    • J. Swift

      DJ Douchebag Danny Masterson is being investigated by the LAPD on allegations of rape. This is serious business. Therefore, OSA is trying to dead agent the rape allegations against Masterson by deflecting the focus onto Leah. It is easy to see right through OSA’s BS tactics because these tactics don’t work.

      And if look at it closely, you see Masterson’s enormous ego at work: Masterson claims that Leah is trying to boost her show based on his imagined fame, name recognition, and popularity.

      DJ Douchebag Masterson wants to make it all about him.

      The non-sequitur here that DJ Douchebag Masterson is nowhere mentioned in Leah’s show. Leah didn’t need Masterson to make her show one of A&E’s highest rated shows ever.

  • nottrue
    • flyonthewall

      did you know that if you type “fancy cat” into google you get some rather interesting results? It’s true

  • Jimmy3

    I hope all you lovely ladies who are only local and not international will find happiness today. It sucks that so many of you were excluded, but perhaps soon there will be a day that is just Women’s Day, without any disqualifying parameters on residence or travel experience. I love all you ladies and you’re very pretty.

    • flyonthewall

      I hope you don’t mind if I share this pic of you from Howdycon. It’s my fav

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/05333a7d91407c9f43cd92b35a4b0140694de37290f1e1f95902600742ff6495.png

      • Missionary Kid

        Where’s my picture? :p

        • flyonthewall

          Funny you should ask. I just ran across this childhood photo of you growing up in British India. You remember your pet mongoose Rikki Tikki Tavi right? He killed those cobras in your garden and saved your family’s life. Sure, you remember.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e20a3a1ac65183d86c7f78bf0ceb3f086f013b888d3d48a4372651b0ff4369a4.jpg

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            I remember the cartoon version of Rikki Tikki Tavi. That whole story is…kinda fucked up. Why any sane adults thought Rudyard Kipling made for good children’s storytelling is beyond me. A relic of the times, I guess.

            • flyonthewall

              it never struck me as fuct up, why do you say that? I know he’s a racist and all but I didn’t see that come through in the cartoon. The original Jungle Book is lame IMHO, new one is great

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              It was a pretty violent, survival of the fittest story. I was really young when I saw it. It scared me.

            • flyonthewall

              oh well that’s how you know it’s good! πŸ™‚ If you think his stuff is messed up, you should read the original Grimm stories, talk about fuct up. In Cinderella, the ladies trying on the slipper cut their toes off to fit into it and that’s not even the worst of it. I’d rather read a toddler Edgar Allan Poe stories than original Grimm stuff

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Oh, yeah, the Grimms basically told horror stories. I’ve never read the originals themselves, just read about them–blood, death, starvation, all the fun stuff.

              I loved Poe as a kid, btw.

            • flyonthewall

              me too. Mask of the Red Death creeped me out the most I think. Some is fine for any age but his horror stories I def wouldn’t read to a kid until they were maybe 8yrs old or so cuz it could def give them nightmares

            • gtsix

              The Grimm are wonderful. Loved them in all their viciousness.

            • flyonthewall

              sure, just not really safe for kids πŸ™‚

            • gtsix

              Yea… that didn’t work for my family. Grandma would read us the Grimm… so we knew what was what. Damn germans. πŸ™‚

            • flyonthewall

              Nice. You know the Terri Gilliam movie, The Brothers Grimm, right?

            • gtsix

              I did see that film! Forgotten all about it, Matt Damon and Heath Ledger…. thought it was pretty good.

          • Missionary Kid

            I was 6 months old when I left India.

            • flyonthewall

              you were a big boy? Just go with it ok?

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m slow sometimes. I’ll go with it. Thanks to that mongoose, my family was saved.

            • flyonthewall

              *high five*

            • Missionary Kid

              *High five*

        • Jimmy3

          I had to scroll back thru my phone images quite a bit, but I found one of you from HowdyCon:
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/136d77bc2cf9c4c5b656a81d1b1067483f9cca4f86a902ebe66d8477270c6934.jpg

      • Jimmy3

        I wish you had asked me before posting it. It looks like I’m posing there, but I wasn’t. They caught me off guard with that photo and I didn’t even have time to comb my unibrow.

        • flyonthewall

          well I think you look very handsome

          • Jimmy3

            Well thank you, buddy, I found this great shot of you smoking a blunt at the book tour. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/728bdee4fd0af98c54bb7fbee1d7e3649afa29e6337beb68f0e9bd2ed8af8c46.jpg

            • flyonthewall

              Oh yeah, this was right after we liberated that steakhouse. Good times, good times.

            • Jimmy3

              It’s weird that you have to be absolutely quiet at a library, but they don’t care when you light up a fat blunt indoors. We should hang out at libraries more often.

            • Ben Franklin

              Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Don’t ever let Fidel’s friends catch you with this kind of slander, they might just castrate you for confusing his good ol authentic Cuban cigar with a blunt. Snoop dog tells me he wants to have a quick chat with you.

            • Ben Franklin

              Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Don’t ever let Fidel’s friends catch you with this kind of slander, they might just castrate you for confusing his good ol authentic Cuban cigar with a blunt. Snoop dog tells me he wants to have a quick chat with you.

        • Frodis73

          That unibrow is the best part…aside from the t-shirt.

      • Douglas D. Douglas
        • flyonthewall

          i had too much to drink and ended up FotF!

    • Ann B Watson

      Very timely and good of you Jimmy3, Thank you.πŸ’–

  • OOkpik

    I am verklempt knowing that right here among our Bunker friends and readers there are more than a few men and women who have been sexually abused and left to suffer the lasting consequences.

    I’m so sorry that was done to you.Β­Β­
    (((HUGS))) to each of you.

    • Elegant Mess

      I think this just goes to show that rape culture is real, all too common and HAS affected someone you know.

      • OOkpik

        By statistics, probably many someones. :,(

    • Ann B Watson

      Thank you OOkpik, You are kind, wise and sweet.πŸ’›

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    OT.

    Karen de la Carriere and friends were with Louis Theroux at last night’s premiere (and after party) in LA of My Scientology Movie and here are some photos commemorating the evening. F5

    Karen de la Carriere and Louis Theroux
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ec4e62e55cbd40f2d788d771746dbdceb3d6ca1f6d5d6f62021ad548be2cf39.jpg

    Jeffrey Augustine, Karen and Louis
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73325129d7ac418494f7275975a9c6517113bd98166a95e380ec0eb1b76a3322.jpg

    Mark Ebner, Karen and Jeffrey
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c7721fdbfc3dc33a7a0fe5d5b6818ad82c760876c8972b35583c6e52ab48d203.jpg

    Jeffrey, Steve Mango and Karen
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/009e987bbfddb9baef7deb0da9cc7cfee62a25e1b994e7b02bef8217306c1615.jpg

    Jeffrey, Andrew Perez (who plays David Miscavige in the film) and Karen
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4dc080add3d87072cee9dec509ac994c3b592f8eadcae6aa387e6840a8cd5db0.jpg

    • Frodis73

      I like that Andrew Perez and I hope he gets more parts…something non-Miscavige like.

      • Yeah, I liked him in this. He really went with the flow and rolled with it when they went out to Gold and got harassed. .

      • MarcabExpat

        I fear he’s in for a period of explaining to people that he’s really a nice guy, but good for him πŸ™‚

    • Elegant Mess

      Karen always looks red-carpet-ready. She’s so fancy. I jelly.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Doesn’t she look lovely?

    • ze moo

      Is Karen in her Warrior Princess costume?

      • flyonthewall

        Xenu Warrior Princess

  • Out and about

    The problem with Masterson is that he truly believes himself to be bulletproof. After all “it’s just a body”! Asshole.

  • J. Swift

    Victim C paints a truly disgusting picture of the alleged rapist Danny Masterson. The details are shocking and I’m so proud of her courage in coming forward to share her story at the Bunker. The burden is now on the LAPD to actually conduct a real criminal investigation as opposed to essentially doing nothing as happened with Shelly Miscavige. In Shelly’s case, the LAPD met the bare minimum statutory requirement: Was Shelly Miscavige a missing person? The answer was no. But did the LAPD do an adult welfare check or ask another agency to do so? Did the LAPD even bother to determine if Shelly was being held against her will? The answer appears to be no. Worse, Detective Andre Dawson, who had ties to Scientology, should have recused himself from this investigation. For LAPD to allow Dawson on the case was a travesty of justice.

    ******
    The Church of Scientology has covered up rape before.

    This begs the question: Is the Church of Scientology a Rape Culture?

    I say yes because Rape and the covering up of rapes is inherent in the Church of Scientology.

    The Church of Scientology has also covered up child sexual molestation.

    And of course, at the core of Scientology is the financial rape of its members, the rapine human trafficking and slave labor of Sea Org members, and the forced abortions in the Sea Org.

    And what is Disconnection except the devastating psychological rape of families and friendships by tearing them apart violently.

    The Church of Scientology is, and always has been, a Rape Culture.

    • Shivani33

      Victim A has reported waking up bleeding due to anal rape from Danny Masterson, who then laughed at her, while essentially admitting to her what he had done.

      As for Scientology officials she said, “they threatened me that I would be declared a ‘suppressive person’ and lose everything and everyone. Then they put me on a massive ethics program as punishment. My rapist was not punished at all.” From Tony Ortega, March 3, 2017 as he broke this story, also mentioning that Victim A said that Scientology officials told her not to go to the police. Underground Bunker: DANNY MASTERSON: LAPD PROBING SCIENTOLOGY AND DANNY MASTERSON FOR MULTIPLE RAPES, COVER-UP. The use of caps came from Tony’s title on Mar. 3rd.

      All three reports from the women, A., B. and C. are heartbreakingly powerful. The obfuscations from the police as well as from Scientology representatives and from Masterson himself are sickening.

    • “Is the Church of Scientology a Rape Culture?”

      Oooh, I like the easy ones…

      The whole raison d’etre of the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology is to rape the souls of its victims so as to make them complicit in the emptying of their own wallets.

      So, it would be a major shocker to me if the Co$ did not routinely cover up rape, and aided and abetted perps in keeping victims silenced (while making the perps pay for the privilege).

  • HpHpHp

    Hey guys, long time lurker here at the Bunker, but I’m writing a lengthy research paper for my HS Composition class on Scientology, and I’d like to get some community feedback on my thesis statement…

    THESIS: Due to its extreme policies that among other things, promote disconnection from non-Scientologist family members, forced abortions, and violent intimidation tactics used against critical media outlets, the Church of Scientology, as run by David Miscavige, needs to be labelled as a cult by the US government, a decision that would revoke its tax-exempt status.

    Thank you guys for any and all help in this endeavor!!!

    Thanks again, HP

    • Liberated

      You came to the right place.

    • Tony Ortega

      The government doesn’t “label” anything a “cult.”

      But it could take the tax exempt status away simply for violating the terms of the agreement it made in 1993.

      • flyonthewall

        jinx

      • HpHpHp

        I was a little iffy on the wording of that part… ill be sure to change it. Thanks so much for the help!!!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        If I remember correctly Tony you don’t like to call them that either.

        • outraged

          I remember that as well. Also that I still call them a cult anyway, lol.
          Good thing I am not writing a thesis.

      • Ben Franklin

        or a religion

    • flyonthewall

      the US govt isn’t going to label them a cult or a religion.

      • HpHpHp

        only question though is that by removing their tax exemption, wouldn’t the US govt essentially be saying that they are not a legitimate religion???

        • flyonthewall

          they never labelled CoS a religion, it’s not the govt’s role to do that. Only thing they determine is if the organization exists to benefit the community and doesn’t profit any individual

          • Frodis73

            Yes, this. Technically our govt hasn’t labeled any of the millions of Christian churches religions either. 1st Amendment prevents them from being able to say that.

        • Jimmy3

          Yeah but revoking their tax exemption is not the same as labeling it a ‘cult’. It’s like if you catch a dog shitting on your property and you shoo it away, that’s not necessarily labelling the dog a poodle. Even if it was a poodle. You get what I’m saying? You can use this in your paper, but you should change the thesis statement.

        • tax exemption and religion are two separate issues

        • Ben Franklin

          You can have a legitimate religious organization that does not have tax exempt status. Tax exemption status is something that religious organizations apply for, but, it doesn’t mean that all religious organizations are tax exempt. There are many tax exempt organizations, like the Red Cross who are obviously not a religion. Tax exemption does not indicate whether an organization is a religious organization or not.

    • flyonthewall

      try criminal enterprise, mafia or even business if you want to be polite, instead of cult. Even if the govt could/would label them a cult that wouldn’t change its tax-exempt status.

      • HpHpHp

        ill prob go criminal enterprise, thanks for the suggestions!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      If you really are LL say something only he would know. I hope you haven’t been kidnapped.

      • MarcabExpat

        Co-sign. I’m really ready to have our Wombat Whisperer back on active duty.

    • it might be more powerful to focus on one of those “extreme policies” and dig deeper within that specific subject. if your topic is re: their tax-exempt status, you might want to research how they obtained that and why you think it should be revoked without clouding it up w/ disconnection, media intimidation, etc.

    • OOkpik

      Welcome.
      Below Tony’s article are a number of links to highly informative write-ups on subjects related to your thesis.
      The rabbit hole entrance is to the left of the Bunker popcorn machine.

    • Frodis73

      How fun! I see you already got some good suggestions. We (well, me) would love to read it when you are done if you care to share it with us. Good luck and you are definitely in the right place. We have people here that *really* know their stuff.

    • Missionary Kid

      The government doesn’t label groups as cults. Individuals do.

    • Robert Ramsay

      Hmmmmm…. I know ! RICO/Racketeering.

    • MarcabExpat

      Some others have made useful comments here, so I’ll just add that there is no legal basis for labeling something a “cult.” I’d go for arguing why their tax exemption should be revoked (and be sure to include describing how it was fraudulently obtained to begin with).

      The gov’t doesn’t deem religions to be legit or not, and in fact does not even determine what is or isn’t a religion. In fact, it’s not even accurate to say that “religions get tax exemptions;” at least, they don’t get them for being religions. Tax exemptions are granted on very specific grounds to all sorts of organizations, religious and otherwise. I’d narrow your focus and start by explaining what those grounds are and how to meet them, and how Scientology has failed to meet them. (Hint: forced abortions and intimidation of critics actually don’t enter into it — those are just other crimes Scn is guilty of.)

      All that other stuff is juicy, and when you’re talking about Scientology it’s tempting to throw in everything but the kitchen sink. But overcome the temptation. That focus is too broad. You can’t write all of that into a paper; you couldn’t even write it into a single book. It would take a shelf of books to cover your proposed topic.

      The tax exemption angle is a good one because it’s narrowly focused enough that you can write a very straightforward, persuasive paper on it and always stay on topic. So do a little research on how tax exemptions work (teachers love it when you show your work) and then show how Scientology deserves a failing grade on the tax-exemption scale. Good luck!

      — a former English teacher

      • Ben Franklin

        Very good points and advise because tax exemption is not granted based on religion, it is granted based on the applicant being able to satisfy specific requirements set out in the law. An organization does not have to be a religious organization to gain tax exemption status.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Delete this last part, “…as run by David Miscavige, needs to be labelled as a cult by the US government, a decision that would revoke its tax-exempt status,” and substitute something like the following in its place: “…the Church of Scientology’s 501c3 federal tax-exempt status should be formally reviewed.”

      Choose three or more areas of concern (e.g., cherch expenditures on PI’s to surveil and harass former members) that should be prime areas of focus for an IRS investigation, support your reasoning in choosing them and discuss them in detail.

      Here’s an excellent source to learn more about the cult’s current tax-exempt status and why they don’t deserve to keep it. https://scientologymoneyproject.com/ This is really a topic that could be gone into at book length, so setting clear parameters around what you’ll be covering and what you won’t is an important consideration here.

      Good luck, it’s a great topic that opens out onto a much wider arena of concerns!

    • Kim O’Brien

      don’t ask Marty to edit it for you . Helpful hint

    • PeaceMaker

      I don’t want to do your homework for you, but this is an opportunity to clarify and outline a few important things.

      To me, the issues sum up as something like:
      * Forced disconnection from members not in good standing, and non-Scientologists
      * Abuse of staff members including violence, false imprisonment, and forced abortions
      * Intimidation and harassment of journalists and critics
      * Fundamental doctrine that disregards legal authority and government institutions
      * Abusive financial practices including unreasonable charges for required services, and high-pressure fundraising
      * Accumulation of vast wealth and assets to benefit the reputation and lifestyle of the leadership, without serving a significant membership or the common good
      On the first three points, Scientology should be investigated for criminal acts and the obstruction of justice that has so far allowed them to allude accountability, and reasonable new laws should be considered to rein in all abusive and extremist high control groups, such as extending the statute of limitations for crimes committed against individuals when they were living in a controlled environment with the perpetrators and/or coerced to not report crimes. On the last three points, Scientology should have its religious tax exemption revoked, as well as the special privileges granted it in the 1993 agreement with the IRS.
      Others have already brought up, quite correctly I think, some points such as that it’s not the government’s place to label groups as cults, and that the tax exemption doesn’t hang on the religious issues.

  • 2hell_dev

    Jesus …and this guy is the father of a little girl? poor thing growing up with such a monster as a father…she doesn’t stand a chance

    • Frodis73

      That is disturbing.

      • 2hell_dev

        rereading my comment it really wasn’t intended to imply any abuse on the little girl, god forbid! I was just thinking about what kind of moral standards will the little girl have growing up with such a pig as a father figure, if she will ever be lucky to have normal and healthy relationships with men, at least I truly hope she will…and my “she doesn’t stand a chance” was referred to growing up into that sick cult…harsh but true, I really feel for their kids and what they are taught as “normal”

        • Missionary Kid

          That’s how I took your comment.

        • Frodis73

          I didn’t think you were implying that nor do I think he is doing anything to her. My feelings are similar to yours. It’s just the whole ick factor too.

  • flyonthewall

    Where’s Johnny been? Sure hope he wasn’t murdered by a drifter…

  • nottrue
  • Todd Tomorrow

    I’m glad these girls are coming forward since I learned in college that
    most sexual abuse victims never come forward. Sadly, for some fucked up
    reason society still tends to treat them as if they asked for it
    somehow. This especially goes for children who somehow think they brought it on themselves. Boys are the least likely ever to come forward. Times have changed but still a horrid stigma sadly surrounds sexual abuse victims. On a side note I know a guy was violently raped and the hospital was more concerned about how he was going to pay for his own rape kit; Fucking Texas.

    • itsIBBy

      my heart breaks for your friend πŸ™ Assault among males rarely gets reported or handled with compassion or sympathy

      I can share from personal experience that some of the people I did try to tell about it later asked me why I didn’t leave. Like I deserved it because I stayed. Gas-lighting and threats and bodily injury didnt compute with them.

      I was also sexually abused as a kid and never came forward with it until later on in life because i didnt understand what had happened. It’s colored my relationships with people my whole life though.

      • Liberated

        I’m so sorry.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Why we are being honest here I was too as a young boy. The last thing I wanted to was tell or get my parent’s involved. Later in life my Mother was so angry but my Dad didn’t want to hear about such things. It really fucked me up as a kid until I went to a psychologist for three years as an successful adult. It wasn’t fun to go to therapy but it sure did help. Had to go to 3 before I found one that made me do all the work. My Aunt once asked me as an adult why I never visit the city that this happened in. I told her I hated that place I was sexually molested as a child. Sure enough she gave me that smug attitude like I probably enjoyed it. I was a little boy not even through puberty. She’s always been a bitch, though.

        • itsIBBy

          *virtual hugs*

          Therapy and medication literally saved my life, so I can relate to the feels. I still havent told my mother what happened. My abuser was the husband of the baby sitter my mom sent us to while she was putting herself through grad school. Theres nothing she can do about it 30 years later, so its better not to tell her. I work through it in therapy and carry on

          • Todd Tomorrow

            “virtual hugs’, Pisses me off I was even dubious to write about it. As I’ve always said the only good that ever has come out of it is that I can help other people.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thank you for being helpful. I was never sexually abused, but I really can “hear” your compassion.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Thanks, MK.

            • Frodis73

              It does help to speak out and it will even help you too. More men do need to share their stories, but I understand how hard it is. I think the problem is a lot bigger than what has been reported/guessed at. Many hugs to you Todd.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              xxxooo

        • FredEX2

          I’m sorry that happened to you Todd. πŸ™
          ((Hugs))

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Big hug back, thank you.

        • daisy

          Oh Todd , I am so sorry that happened to you . Thank you for sharing that with us. The more people speak out the more help you give other people. ((( big pharma hugs )))

        • ExCult.Jan

          Thanks for your honesty, courage, and big heart, Todd. You are awesome.

      • OOkpik

        (((Hugs)))

      • ExCult.Jan

        Xoxo

  • nottrue

    Ok now let us count how many Clears you have in Nashville..Now let us count the money taken in from fundraisers.. . https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9a75a6ad04a95217775bccded05362f52e8ed0861fd3d0b39345e80377d53eaa.jpg

    • Graham

      I’m guessing 32?

    • Joe

      I pass that building a few times a month and I’ve never seen more than 3 cars in the parking lot or any ingress/egress from the building. I will say at one little food festival in Centennial Park there was a sweet girl handing out invitations for their introductory video, but other than that I’ve seen no presence in Nashville at all.

      I’ll let you know if anything fun happens.

      • Missionary Kid

        Thanks, Joe. I’m looking forward to it.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    I did remember to take my vitamin C today.

  • Missionary Kid

    When and where will My Scientology Movie be shown in the L.A. area?

    • Elegant Mess

      ArcLight Hollywood, starting Friday.

      • Missionary Kid

        Thanks. I won’t be able to see it this Friday, dammit.

    • Missionary Kid

      Fandango has listed the following cities:
      New York City, NY
      San Francisco-Oakland-San Jose, CA
      Chicago, IL
      Los Angeles, CA
      Boston, MA
      Washington, DC
      Philadelphia, PA
      Austin, TX
      Seattle, WA

      • Frodis73

        Thank you, I was just looking. Of course Cleveland is no were on the list.

        • Kestrel

          Neither is Dallas.

  • nottrue
    • Missionary Kid

      Damn right. I hope they also carry TUML.

    • madame duran

      Good taste.

  • Glen

    http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-scientology-should-discuss-clearwater-plans-in-public/2315882

    This is a very powerful editorial in the Tampa Bay Times. I think it serves as a remarkable bookend to the Clearwater Sun editorial (that Tony republished yesterday) from nearly 40 years earlier. Both editorials make great cases for the harm that has been done to Clearwater from $ci’s actions and presence.

    The entire editorial is well worth a read. Here is the opening paragraph:

    “The Church of Scientology appears determined to complete the hostile takeover of downtown Clearwater it launched four decades ago. It’s latest effort has all of the familiar characteristics: Disguised property purchases, secret meetings and intimidation. Mayor George Cretekos and other City Council members should stand up to these strong-arm tactics, force the discussions into the open and not allow downtown to become a wholly owned Scientology subsidiary.”

    • Thank you for posting and linking this, Glen.

      • Glen

        Of course, Dodo. Thanks for all the insight and kindness you provide here.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    13 years can do an AWFUL lot to a man’s good looks.
    (refresh for vintage image)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1cfe606c46c6ac7f7f4e7a4ebe18515446c0fe5d0b5bf83473ef35fbafcb7d9c.jpg

  • downtherabbithole

    It is now almost 11 hours since I first read today’s post and my anger still has me over the edge. I need a release/outlet.

    • OOkpik
      • downtherabbithole

        Thank you. (((Hugs))). I wish I could let this go, but it is getting the best of me

        • OOkpik

          I’m with you, hun. It’s tough enough just reading about it…

      • Taffy Sinclair

        AWW, it’s a frosting-cat!!!

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)
      • downtherabbithole

        Having thoughts beyond hitting and this makes me unhappy. I don’t like feeling this way and having thoughts of seeing Mr Masterson having a permanent end.

        • Frodis73

          Yes, I really want to see him completely humiliated and then punished, severely.

          • downtherabbithole

            Was having a vision of him getting hit by a bus then thought, no that would be too easy for him. I hope he suffers much in view for all to see.

            • Elegant Mess

              I’d say make him do a shame walk a la Game of Thrones. But, no one should be made to watch that.

          • flyonthewall

            I already shooped a big red R on his forehead, what more do you want?

            • downtherabbithole

              Parade him down Hollywood Blvd with that big red R

    • Susan black

      go for a quick run. then settle down with some good chocolate. it’ll help, i’m sure.

  • Susan black

    Danny’s a donkey. The LAPD is pathetic. We want and need the truth. And where’s Shelly?

  • J. Swift

    The Associated Press did a great job on the headline and choosing a photo of DJ Douchebag at a Youth For Human Rights event. The AP, however, did not credit the Proprietor of the Underground Bunker. For this reason, I have assigned the AP a condition of TREASON.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d7c323e5b3537eca41ca4376970aed918ee2f44137c12578d8adbea2c3cd2a2d.png

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    I’ll bring the beignets & coffee in the morning. Have a good night Bunker. 😘

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Night, Stephanie.

    • daisy

      Night sweetie, thanks for the drinks .

    • Missionary Kid

      Did you read the story about convicted former North Shore District Attorney, Walter Reed? There was a hearing to determine if he would be able to remain free while he appeals his conviction. Buried in the story in the Times-Picayune towards the end, he did 30 days of the purif.
      http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2017/03/vince_vance_scones_emerge_in_w.html

      • Frodis73

        Hey MK, that is the first I have heard of this story, but it was pretty funny actually. Between the purif and his whacky character witnesses-lol. Good job on that lawyer for figuring that out tho.

        • Missionary Kid

          The prosecuting attorney had his number. Other articles say that he was convicted on 18 of 19 charges. He took money for work the D.A.’s office did. He took money for personal use from his campaign, and he diverted payments to his son.

          I’m sure the purif cured him of any evil. /sarcasm.

          • Juicer77

            SMH

  • Frodis73

    OT-but funny and it made me think of Observer.

    https://twitter.com/Stonekettle/status/839542539397054464

    • downtherabbithole

      Thanks – was in need of a good belly laugh

    • Jgg2012

      Sounds like Narconon.

    • Missionary Kid

      Someone described the Republican efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act after saying that they can do better thus. They are like a dog who barks at and chases a car every time it passes by. One day it stops, and the dog catches it. Then it doesn’t know what to do about it.

      • Frodis73

        Nailed it!

  • Mick Roberts

    I don’t suppose the husband of Shelly Miscavige is going to direct the members his church (a church that claims to be a Champion of Human Rights) to have any festivities honoring International Women’s Day this year eh?

    • Jgg2012

      Naw, he has other ways of honoring them. Imprisoning a wife, covering up rapes, forcing women to have abortions…

  • downtherabbithole

    I had to leave this morning as the story was simply too much for me, but did any of our bunker peeps tweet this story out? I so love our SP’s

    • downtherabbithole

      Did I forget to mention that I do not participate in any social media? I appreciate all who have the patience for it though.

  • Someone Anonymous

    Had this happen with a Scn’ist ex. I thought I’d pulled it in somehow since we’d both been drinking.I yelled and screamed but he had me pinned down so I couldn’t budge even an inch. He didn’t care and pretended not to hear me while he kept pounding me. I bled for 3 days after. Didn’t even THINK of filing against him since I didn’t want to be declared. Wasn’t until I had gained almost 100lbs, started having full-blown panic attacks, urgent suicidal thoughts and sudden flashbacks a year later that I realized how much trauma it actually had been for me.

    The problem is the church propagates the idea that you can’t ever bring the law into a dispute with another church member yet they do nothing to handle the person. How was it that this ex of mine was getting auditing yet that didn’t even come up (even after I confronted him a year later over the phone about what he’d done)? When I realized that I didn’t trust any Chaplain’s Court or MAA to handle him, my whole idea of the world (as seen through Scientology-lens) fell apart. These victims’ stories really resonate with me and it’s horrible what happened to them. I hope the investigation is done thoroughly and they get some justice.

    • itsIBBy

      πŸ™ I’m so sorry this happened to you. If you feel up to it, further down in the comments, some of us have shared our stories too. You’re not alone, ever. *hugs*

    • daisy

      Thank you for telling your story.

    • KimP

      Oh my goodness, so very sad. Did you ever get support ( I know that Scientologists tend to take a dim view of them though)? How horrible.

      • Someone Anonymous

        Yes. It was either get a therapist or kill myself. It had gotten to that point so I bit the bullet. Been in therapy for almost a year now. Definitely needed that and it’s so not a bad thing. I have to keep telling my ex Scn friends that they should check it out themselves. So much shit we put up with. C-PTSD and major depressive disorder for me apparently. Thanks, Scientology. You made my life so much better by having dedicated my life to you for decades.

        • KimP

          I am so glad you got help, and I can completely relate. While I never had anything like your experience happen to me I went though something that happened at my high school, will be 18 years this April. I fully appreciate what you say with the “get a therapist or kill myself” and I tried. If you don’t mind me asking, how long ago was it?

          • Someone Anonymous

            Oh man… think it’s been 3 1/2 years since the rape itself. Took me about a year to even comprehend that something was even wrong (I’m well versed in the art of compartmentalization and denial). I was molested as a kid too by different people so there were a lot of other things that I had to address once my mind started opening up and sensing I was ready to heal.

            • KimP

              Oh my, yes. It always seems to work that way doesn’t it? Just ignore that it happened and it will all be ok, kind of thing. Surprising how it will come out sideways and when you least want it. I am so sorry this ugliness found you! Again, while I cant relate to your specific situation, I can tell you trauma DOES get easier, but at the same time it will always be there. :/ I am so sorry kiddo! *HUG* It amazes me how much ugliness there is in this world. The Childhood thing must of been awful!!!

              Please, please, please, tell me your therapy is also covering that!

            • ExCult.Jan

              Thanks for your courage coming forward with your story and connecting with us here at The Bunker. We “get it” about abusive power and the road to healing. Welcome to this safe place with an abundance of understanding, information, hugs and really bad jokes. ((((( hugs )))))

          • OOkpik

            :,(
            (((Hugs)))
            I’m so glad that you botched your suicide attempt and are on the way to healing.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          I am so glad that you have a therapist to help you move forward. All my best wishes to you in the journey.

    • downtherabbithole

      Dear lord you just brought me to tears again. I wish there was something I could do to take away your pain. Sending you big hugs.

      • Someone Anonymous

        Thank you! I’m getting help. Still have yet to lose most of the weight but at least I can now be intimate with people and don’t feel like killing myself daily so there’s been progress. πŸ™‚ But I can always use a big cyber hug!!!

    • OOkpik

      Oh, sweetheart. I’m so sorry.
      (((Hugs)))

    • Kristen

      I’m sorry that happened to you – all of it, including the traumas after the fact.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I am so sorry, Anonymous. No one should have to go through what you went through. I hope that you are able to find support through a peer support group or therapist who is experienced with sexual assault cases. I am sending you love and prayers for healing.

      • Someone Anonymous

        Thank you so much! I’m seeing a therapist (just came out of therapy, in fact, hence the delay in responding).

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Always know that you did NOT “bring this in.” Rapists are criminals, and should be treated as such. The rapist is the one who committed this ugly act . You , on the other hand, are beautiful!

      • KimP

        Does Scientology teach that(The bringing in on yourself)? I vaguely remember it being mentioned somehow.

        • Taffy Sinclair

          yes, they do.

          • KimP

            Ok thanks you two….How horrible.

        • Ben Franklin

          If something bad happens to you, Scientologists say you “pulled it in” on you. In other words, you caused the bad thing to happen to you.

          If something good happens to you, Scientologists say it is only because of Scientology. The end result is Scientologists blame themselves for everything bad that happens in their lives, and give credit to Scientology for everything good in their lives.

          • Taffy Sinclair

            Thanx for defining it.

          • Someone Anonymous

            Exactly! It’s like a toxic shame circle. I still think shit like I’m PTS if I’m even slightly sick. It’s like there’s something wrong with me on a core level ALLLLLL the time. Even though I know that’s not true.

            • Juicer77

              Totally normal considering what you’ve been through. It takes a long time to eradicate that thought control. (ETA: therapy helps, just saw your comment below). Sorry if I’m being a buttinski. I grew up in a household that told me I was lying when I had panic attacks. So I understand those ingrained thought patterns that take a long time to dig up and discard. But it can happen. Hugs.

    • TexasBroad

      OH! I am so angry! We are not “anti-scientologists” here —- we are anti THIS! We are against the myriad of abuses that occur because of the doctrine that you can’t report criminal acts. We are against the psychological damage inflicted upon victims of abuse or illness because of the doctrine that it is the fault of the person upon whom it befalls.
      Someone Anonymous, I don’t have words to tell you how sorry I am this perpetrator hurt you or how incensed I am the church you devoted your faith to did so much more than fail you – a culture where you are made to feel you pulled it in – whatever it is, big or small (a handy control mechanism to deflect any criticism that the tech may not actually work) and worse, a culture whose doctrine holds that covering up and denying heinous criminal acts is for the greater good – PR trumps decency. PR trumps humanity.
      I am not saying well what I want to say. But instead of Someone Anonymous, I will think of you as Someone Amazing. Thank you for speaking. I hope it helps that the added fuckery of Scientology upon this crime committed upon you is understood here.

      • Someone Anonymous

        Thank you SO much for your beautiful words. You said it perfectly. PR trumps everything there. It’s insanity.

    • MarcabExpat

      IT WAS NOT YOU. IT WAS ALL HIM.

      (Someone should have said to you then, and I hope you know it deep down by this time. I’m angry not just that it happened to you, but that you went through the aftermath alone. No one should have to do that).

      You have friendly people here who understand the truth you’re telling. We’re glad you’re here.

      • Someone Anonymous

        Thank you!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Thank you for sharing I know it’s hard but it does get better. It took me years of trying to put it in the back of my head until I went to a psychologist. I didn’t gain weight but drank myself into a stupor almost every night to quiet the PTSD.It took me a little more than a decade to decide to go to 3 years of theraphy and finding the right shrink. I’m so much happier. Theraphy was no fun but as others will tell you, you’ll be glad you went. Big Hug.They are the fucked up people and you deserve a great life.

  • Observer
    • flyonthewall

      So perfect. Pleasure Island, turning into a donkey. And Jason Lee can be the naughty boy who escaped and got a 2nd chance!

    • flyonthewall

      this sequence is still one of the darkest and scariest in an animated movie that I can think of.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgmfV5VLHvs

      • Observer

        “And here, ladies and gentlemen, we see ordinary human beings transformed into Scientologists.”

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Committed crimes?? That is NOT in the character of Mr. Miscavige. (said no wog ever)

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      That’s just what I was thinking, Obs, when I read Victim C’s story. The way Masterson simply commanded her over the phone and in person, like she was an ashtray.

      Tone 40. Or “Command Intention”. Or whatever Hubbardese drivel fits the description. Might as well just call it “Abracadabra” — “I speak and it is so!”

  • downtherabbithole

    To all the wonderful women in bunker, I wish you all the very best and am very happy I have had the opportunity to get to know you, even if it is only on a blog.

    You all are truly amazing women. How damn lucky am I.

    Today’s post is more than I take so off I go….. Good night ladies (and gentlemen).

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Thank you very much! I wish all women a happy int’l women’s day!

    • Marshall

      I agree – a wonderful group of women (and the men aren’t too shabby either!)

    • jayla197145

      You are a sweetheart. πŸ™‚ Goodnight. πŸ™‚

  • Bavarian Rage

    How does one show adequate admiration for kickass girls A, B, and C? To report any rape/potentially take the stand in trial is beyond courageous. To expose oneself and her most humiliating private trauma for public debate and criticism b/c one’s perp is a celeb is extremely ballsy. Then add to that poking the Scientology hornet’s nest, and you’re looking at the trifecta of the gutsy brave.

    No matter what transpires from here, know that you women have triumphed over a weak, slimy weasel and have dealt a black eye to both perpetrator and abusive cult. We have heard you roar.

    • Juicer77

      Amen.

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    My Bunker women, in the spirit of today, here’s a little something from my favorite poet Lucille Clifton–for you, for us, for everyone. Be good to yourselves!

    won’t you celebrate with me
    what i have shaped into
    a kind of life? i had no model.
    born in babylon
    both nonwhite and woman
    what did i see to be except myself?
    i made it up
    here on this bridge between
    starshine and clay,
    my one hand holding tight
    my other hand; come celebrate
    with me that everyday
    something has tried to kill me
    and has failed.

    https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/wont-you-celebrate-me

  • Gus_Cox

    DJ Date Rape sounds like he was practicing his “Tone 40: Intention.” What piece of shit he is.

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Shit, indeed.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Yes, exactly! He was using Tone 40 training to override the self-determination of the women he raped.

      Lurkers: Get this clearly: Danny Masterson used his Scientology Training Routine training to facilitate the rape of women.

      To someone familiar with Scientology (having been a Scientologist and done the routines) it is clearly a use of Scientology for evil purposes.

      • Missionary Kid

        It could be said that LRH developed $cientology for evil purposes. (Money and control of people).

      • Gus_Cox

        Victim C’s story rings even more true now that I think of it. “Drink that wine!” etc. – WTF that’s so stupidly scientological that nobody could make up a story like that. I mean seriously? It’s so puke-inducing I wanna puke.

  • iampissed

    To all of of the ladies here….THANK YOU!

    • Taffy Sinclair

      Thank you too!!!

  • I never raped anyone or hit a woman, I don’t have it in me. I am more of a protecting of others kind of person.

    But there were 2 or 3 times in my life, when I crossed the lines, in terms of making a woman uncomfortable and it still bothers me to this day. I can blame it on number of crazy things happening at the time, but it won’t change the fact.

    With that said, I am very sorry and wish every woman a happy Women’s Day.

    • Taffy Sinclair

      It was probably the bullbaiting TR’s you were forced to do against your will… It’s not your fault.

    • Jimmy3

      What’d you do, eat their lunch from the break room fridge without noticing it was labelled? You’re a good guy, Dodo. You really don’t have it in you to hurt anybody, much less a woman. I don’t believe you have anything to be sorry for.

      • Michael summarized it perfectly. Creep behavior. Funny thing, mostly it was not even sex related – I just liked the person and wanted to be friends, someone I can talk with I felt related to. But I definitely crossed the line on a couple of occasions.

        Also, I am sorry for misunderstanding your jokes towards me a few times in the past and reacting very aggressively. This, bothers me too. When we met in Cleveland at HowdyCon, you thanked me for not punching you after we hugged. It was probably another joke of yours, but it reminded me how wrong I was about some things I said.

        • Jimmy3

          I was kidding, buddy. I was more than thrilled to meet you and wasn’t scared you would hit me. I was constantly looking over my shoulder expecting Baby to charge at me tho. Still am.

          • Frodis73

            She probably is!

            • Baby

              Wink.. Hi doggie..sweet doggie.. Everyone is sweet to me tonight.. my brain is in another place.

            • Missionary Kid

              We’re just happy to have you here. I hope you’re feeling better.

            • Baby

              thanks Kid.. today is the first day I felt that I was getting better. Yay.. Mac has been babying me. and I look a fright..

              Yellow pale skin.. has never been a crowd pleaser ..

            • redfisch

              So good to see you, Baby, but what’s this about a yellow complexion? This is a blog, honey, so you look fine to me. Unless, hmmm, maybe you have a newer version of Disqus than I do? Man, I am so far behind the technology these days.

            • Missionary Kid

              The yellow comes from the undiagnosed jaundice that is now being treated.

            • redfisch

              I was making a funny.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks. Duh. I shoulda read closer.

            • Baby

              I have jaundice.. ugh.. but Mac said that it is going away.. I will have the Dr. check it today during my check up.

              I gotta get some sun .. man I am whiter than white..

          • Baby

            Always keep ’em guessing Jimmy.. smooches.. xo

            • Jimmy3

              Baby!!! I was hoping I could summon you. Thinking about you babe.

            • Baby

              Sweet Jimmy.. I’m doped up on Oxy.. and chillin

            • Jimmy3

              I know you’re hurting, and I hate to ask, but lemme get a hit of that.

            • Baby

              I take it every 6 hrs. and I keep thinking.. ” Do people really elect to feel this groggy..spaced out.. ”

              and then I think.. Hmmm I don’t give a shit about anything.. How could that NOT be bad.. xo

            • Frodis73

              Baby!!!
              PS-Yep, that is key…you do not give a shit about a darn thing!!

            • Baby

              Hahha.. I get that now doggie.. tee hee..

              I’ll stick to Mike’s Hard Lemonade.. Mango.. I wish I had some good pot right now though.. like I remember in the 60s pot..

              This shit on the island is Bob Marley Ganja Rastafarianism Shit.. Good Gawd..

            • daisy

              Baby !!!!!!!! Hi , darling , hope you are feeling better. You do not have to answer ,conserve your strength.

            • Baby

              Just took a shower.. I hate the big old elastic bandage I have to wear.. Ugh.. I am so short waisted and it is too long and pokes me.. errrrrgh..

              If I wanted to be poked it wouldn’t be with a Freakin Girdle.

            • daisy

              Quit complaining it is still more action than I am getting .

            • Baby

              bawwwwhahahhaha.. I will give it to anytime. I hate it.. HATE it..

            • Juicer77

              Gosh, how I love you, Baby!! XD

            • Baby

              Aww..well I love you back Juicie !!.. XD

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Dodo, thank you for sharing that.

      I have to admit it too. I never did rape anyone, I didn’t hit. But I did make a few over the years uncomfortable and tried to “get them interested” by inappropriate proximity, even though it should have been clear to me they were not interested.

      It was not acceptable behavior and I am ashamed of it. I regret it. I view it as crossing the lines of personal choice, if not force. Like you I could blame it on a lot of things, but I realize now it was creep behavior and I am very very sorry I was ever anything but a gentleman.

      On this Women’s day I apologize to those women, and all Women.

      I wish you all a happy day, and a happy future.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Thank you, too, MLT, for owning it. It’s this kind of empathy and honesty we could all use more of in the world.

        • Frodis73

          ^^^This.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          I am currently a firm advocate of the “firm, unambiguous, enthusiastic vocal YES” as the only acceptable signal of assent.

          ETA: unambiguous and vocal.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Hear hear!

          • daisy

            You are a sweet man MLT.. We are all creeps sometimes. Inventory is hard but it is worth it .

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Thank you. It’s not easy to view my own behavior and realize that I was a creep at times.

          But I also know that I have to view it, and admit it, for me to be the person I want to be. It’s taking a stark inventory and trying to change. I recommend it to anyone.

      • Thank you, Michael.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      You’re a good laser, Dodo.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Thank you for your honesty, Dodo, and for taking responsibility. We could use more good lasers like you in the world.

    • Frodis73

      Dodo, that was very brave of you to admit to. Thank you for that. You are a good guy, nobody is perfect and I think it speaks volumes that you recognize your behavior and it made you uncomfortable so you changed and didn’t continue it. You should talk about these things, especially consent, with your son too. Sex talk always makes people nervous, but it should not and we don’t talk about this enough. We should not be embarrassed or ashamed to talk about this.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Yep yep yep! Pass it on to the younger generation. They need the role models.

    • flyonthewall

      I think it’s worth mentioning that women can be the sexual aggressors too, it’s not just men. On many occasions I have found it necessary to deny a woman my essence even though she protested vehemently. Well I’m sorry but no means no

      • Jimmy3

        No does mean no. Because if I ask Fly Lady if what you’re saying is true, she’s gonna say no.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        I wouldn’t worry about depleting your precious bodily fluids fly.

        • flyonthewall

          Oh I know. That’s why I only drink pure grain alcohol and rainwater

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            “I do not avoid women, Mandrake. But I do deny them my essence.”

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        You know, Fly, I like you. You’re a good dude. But this comment? On this day, and this post? That is some tone-deaf fucking timing. I do hope you see that.

      • John Prince

        I know the feeling. .when a gal says “no” we just have to accept it, but if a guy says “no” that’s a heinous Crime never to be pardoned. .time to change your name/leave town/become a monch..etc
        I, too, have been severely ridiculed and worse, for turning down some lady’s immoral offer..

        shamefull, how they treat us sometimes .. (sniff)

        • flyonthewall

          *hug*

    • daisy

      I obviously do not know to what you are referring , but it is my guess that this is bothering you more than the person referred to. You have cleaned up your side of the street. Continue to pay it forward.

    • Stinky Wizzleteets

      I’m positive that in my past, I have done things that I am now ashamed of. I have never raped a woman. But I’m sure in my younger years, I have put pressure on someone. I am sorry for my actions and hope people know I am not the same person as I was then.

  • Jimmy3

    I’m just gonna go ahead and declare that tomorrow is Women’s Day too.

    • Missionary Kid

      Every day is Women’s Day.

      • Jimmy3

        Dammit, MK. Single day declarations are fine, but to approve something like “every day is Women’s Day”, you know we have to run that by the Patriarchy Elders. Can’t just use our willies to nilly that.

      • John Prince

        You said it Mish!

  • TexasBroad

    Tough day in The Bunker. Whatever tomorrow’s big post entails, I hope it only pisses me off.
    I hope it doesn’t break my heart.
    Good night good women. Good night good men. Thank you for all you share here, for what you teach me, and for kitties.

  • Frodis73

    I am also going to try and head to bed, but I just want to say again what a weird and wonderful place this is.
    I wrote this long and kind of serious post about the Bunker and its great commenters, but decided it was too much. This place is special though and nobody will ever change my mind about that. You people never fail to teach me something new, open my eyes or make me laugh. xo

    • Jimmy3

      I want to read it

    • Frodis73

      Oh and I totally cannot wait to see what Tony has tomorrow that will make DM mad.

    • TexasBroad

      I get it. I have a few of those unposted posts. ‘Night Frodis.

  • GrangerFX
  • JJ

    Seriously messed up. If we have a “church” and a police force in collusion to enable rapists to commit sexual violence, I mean what the hell is the point? Aren’t these institutions supposed to be about the bettering of society, “To protect and serve”? “To make man a better, more capable, more able being?” Where in the hell, no never mind LRH does actually have words to the effect that for the truly dedicated Scientologist rape is an easy do and a nonissue. But the police? What the hell does the LAPD have to do with the church that makes them (appear to?) side with the perpetrators of criminal acts? And when do they realize they have made a deal with the devil and back out of it? Or does it go deeper than that?

    all right who figured out how to change my meme. I gave up.

  • daisy

    It has been a emotional day in the bunker. I will be praying for all my hurt bunker mates My confused mom keeps telling me to be kind to each other every time I leave her room . I know she is chaneling Ellen but I like the sentiment .

    • Jimmy3

      But I don’t want to hurt the bunker mates and praying won’t make me

      • daisy

        LOL – I know there are a lot of atheists in the crowd . I may be one of them , not so sure but it makes me feel better to say a little prayer even if there is no one to here it.

        • Baby

          God is hearing it.

        • Jimmy3

          When I was back there in seminary school, there was a person there who put forth the proposition that you can petition the Lord with prayer.

          Petition the Lord with prayer.

          Petition the Lord with prayer.

          Petition the Lord with prayer!

          YOU CANNOT PETITION THE LORD WITH PRAYER!!!!!!!!!!

          • ExCult.Jan
            • daisy

              Oh now I get it. I just thought it was just one of his random things that I found funny even though I did not know why.

            • Jimmy3

              http://youtu.be/8p-AUo1w45w
              I don’t know how many thousands of times I’ve listened to this song. It’s a weird fixation.

            • ExCult.Jan

              Me, too, so I did the googles.

          • Fly Lady

            Mr. Fly put that song on my ipod and everytime it comes on, I scramble to skip it before he gets to that part!!

        • ExCult.Jan

          I think J3 was making a stab at a joke inspired by your typo.

          • daisy

            Yeah I got it and changed the typo. I do not want to offend anyone with my beliefs so I thought I should explain.

          • Jimmy3

            That is what he was doing.

    • I sound like your Mom a lot.

  • Baby

    One quick thought before I snuggle with fur babies who I can NOT pick up.. and who whine and cry by my feet.. Mac puts them on my bed for me and then they become needy, licking, kissing, little babies.. Which is good at times..

    but most times I want them close to snuggle so I can sleep.. Teddy is my big Shih Tsu. and he doesn’t get why I don’t let him lay on my stomach..so he pouts..
    ……………………………………

    DANNY MASTERSON. YOU ARE NOT WORTH THE AIR THAT I BREATHE. I detest you. May you rot in hell..
    PPPPPfffffffffffffft f5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0dc594c4c8483fe001a4e2c5957427db40ce335bd35c8bba47df32690ce2ac40.jpg

    • Liberated

      You are missed…we love you!

      • Baby

        Hi sweet Lib..thanks boo.. I love you too.. xo.. It is good to be missed. I miss you too sweetie..

    • outraged

      Baby!! You’re back!! Are you ok???

      • Baby

        Define OK? Right now I’m stoned.. so all is well.. smooches.. Love you O.R.

        Computer off.. love you all..baby..yawwwwwwn

        • outraged

          hahahaha. Me too!

          • Baby

            Hahhaaa..well good!

            I tried to bite the bullet the first day.. STUPID.. STUPID.. Mac called the Dr. about my pain..and he said ” Is she taken her pain medication?”

            He said..” No..” and he said.. ” Give her 2..” and I’ve been good ever since.. bawwwhahahhaha.. plus it puts me to sleep.. !

        • Liberated

          You’re stoned?….that’s my girl!

          • Baby

            Yep.. I was Lib.. and I see more days in my future.. xo

    • ExCult.Jan

      Enjoy the snuggles and ignore the pouts!! Sweet dreams, Baby!

      • Baby

        Oh Jan.. thanks honey.. He’s got that pout down good.. He’s used to me picking his up and patting him on the butt really rough.. ( He’s like a tank)

        and chasing him around the house till I catch him..” I GOT CHA..” AND now he’s getting.. head pats and quiet kisses.. and a ” Go Night Night Teddy..”

        Spoiled rotten.. absolutely rotten.. Can’t wait to chase him again..

    • Newiga

      Hi Baby! Missed you! So glad you stopped by! 😍😍

      • Baby

        There’s Wiegie.. thanks honey.. 😍😍

        • Newiga

          xxooxoo all the way from Finland!

    • Harmless Weirdo

      Yay, it’s Baby! Sorry about the latest crap sandwich life’s served you. :/ But snuggling with the four-leggers really does help, and it sounds like you’re in good paws…

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Where have you been? I’ve been worried sick!

      • Baby

        Hey Weirdo..hahahha yes good paws..all fighting over me ..Who can snuggle the closest.

        So I got one on my head.. 2 on each side.. and one who will only sleep with Mac ( God Forbid)

    • Juicer77

      Continued healing, Baby. Mac and your babies are taking good care of you. xoxo

      • Baby

        Poor Mac had the flu when he took me to the hospital for surgery.. He stayed out in the car.. poor guy..absolutely miserable.

        So we were both hurtin… I told him yesterday.. ” One day we will look back at this week and laugh..”

        and he said.. ” That will be a long, long, long time from now..LONG TIME. “

    • MrsLurksALot

      Sending well wishes and hugs, Baby.

      • Baby

        Thanks sweetheart.. I just woke up and trying to decide if I’m up to stay or the bed is still beckoning.. xo love baby

        • MrsLurksALot

          Take it easy…..rest and do your best to relax. I’ve had the same surgery, you got this, girl! ((More hugs.))

          • Baby

            Knock on wood..

            ” The worst is over! ” The attacks were much worse than what I went through with surgery.. Thanks Holly.. Sorry you had to go through this too..

            but when I woke up today I knew that I was over the hump! Woo Hoo

            • MrsLurksALot

              Woo hoo! 😘😘

            • Baby

              YEP.. Woo Hoo is right. I have been to so many Dr.s too many tests.. No one thought that it may be a Gall Bladder as I laid in the ER .. writhing in pain..

              Errrrrrrrrgh.. I can’t think about it because I get really angry..When I finally went to my Gastrologist and said..

              ” I’m not having one now.. But

              He took one look at me and said.. ” Gall Bladder..” You are ill. Went for a sonogram ..scheduled surgery less than a week later.. The rest is history.

              I have fighting this since July.. All kept telling me it was my heart.. even though the tests never confirmed it..errrrrrrrrgh…

            • MrsLurksALot

              Ugh, I feel your pain, literally. When I have time, I’ll tell u my story. You will be further infuriated, believe me.

            • Baby

              Yes.. you tell me your story when you have time. I will be an eager listener.. xo

    • Baby’s coming back
      Baby’s coming back
      So I’m on my best behavior

      I can’t take it anymore
      I just woke up on the floor today, yeah yeah

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5IMmgxtCYM

      • Baby

        Hi guy.. You on your best behavior? You always got that shit eatin grin that tells me you are up to something..

        Cool song Shorp.. xo baby

        • pluvo

          Hi Baby, nice to see you again. Get well soon!

          • Baby

            Hi Pluvo.. thank you.. It can’t come soon enough for me.. I want to get on my bike and scoot around the island.. xo

    • Ann B Watson

      Hugs, Kisses and Love to Baby & the furry Angels watching out for you. Keep Healing, at least the big metal stitches I had in my 1999 dance with colon cancer, a thing of my past. Latest surgery for breast cancer no stiches Intelligent Super Glue that knows when to fall off! Thank you for your comments on another DM getting lessons from the one and only David Miscavige,slime that they both are. XOXOXOπŸŒ·πŸŒΈπŸŒΉπŸŒΊπŸŒ»πŸŒΌπŸ’πŸ’›

      • Baby

        XOXOXOπŸŒ·πŸŒΈπŸŒΉπŸŒΊπŸŒ»πŸŒΌπŸ’πŸ’› Oh Annie Fanny.. I remember those metal stitches all too well..

        I have the super glued ones too tha are covered with bandages I can shower in.. Mac said..” Maybe they will take your stitches out today?”

        I said..” I thought he said they would dissolve when they are ready to. hmmm I’m sure I’m right.. I hope I’m right.. Yeah..I’m sure I’m right.. xo

        You have been through the wringer honey.. sigh.. and you are always so damn sweet.. ( well unless you are talking about the Scilooneytune cult..

        Love baby

        • Ann B Watson

          My Angel You have been through every wringer known to man and animal kind! I had to ask also if the glue ones dissolve and even the ones furthest out, you know holding you together, supposedly they dissolve too. Mine finally dissolved about 16 days later. You know, I am so dedicated to making space around me light, sweet, strong loving for all I meet and greet, but honey you are so right, the cult as it operates HA HA! Now I have no respect or love for. Hurt me terribly and so many others so much worse with Disconnection and Stalking and Lieing. I mean drop all the horrible bs and tell the Truth dm, money is your god and cruelty the slave. Whoops Jade Cat who is 18 tomorrow says, Mom Behave!! Hugs to all your family and pampering for you AlwaysπŸ˜·πŸ‘©β€βš•οΈπŸ˜‡πŸ’›πŸ’›

          • Ann B Watson
          • Baby

            I wrote a response before I laid down.. and disqus ate it.. Jeeze..

            OHHH happy Early bday Jade Cat.. Wow.. she’s got longevity .. What a lucky kitteh to have you for a mama.. In my next life I’ll come back as you kitty too!

            Yay.. I know you will spoil me rotten..πŸ˜·πŸ‘©β€βš•οΈπŸ˜‡πŸ’›πŸ’› love me

            • Ann B Watson

              Disquis eats my replies regularly. I would spoil you rotten but maybe I would be a kitty sister. Then we could both be spoiled rotten. Feel better baby, Love You.πŸ’›πŸ’›

            • Baby

              OH Yes.. Kitty sister.. Perfect. .. We can snuggle together.. OK now this is starting to sound gay.. hahah xo πŸ’›πŸ’›

            • Ann B Watson

              😘😻😻

            • Baby

              😘😻😻

  • JJ

    “Man stole car in Dunedin (FL) with nine parrots in the back seat.” My god there is a movie in there. I am thinking a lot of voice overs.

    • Missionary Kid

      That’s gotta be better than heads in a duffel bag.

    • Jimmy3

      GPS Lady: In a quarter mile, turn left onto Cleveland Street.

      Parrot: Waawk! In a quarter mile, turn left onto Cleveland Street. Waaawk!

      GTA Thief: No, we’re not going that way.

      Parrot: No, we’re not going that way. Waaawk

      GTA Thief: I know. Shut up.

      Parrot: Swaaawww! I know. Shut up!

      GPS Lady: In 500 feet, turn left onto Cleveland Street.

      Parrot: In 500 feet, turn left onto Cleveland Street. Sqwaaaaawwk

      Parrot: Waaawwkkk! In 500 feet, turn left onto Cleveland Street.

      GTA Thief: I JUST SAID WE’RE NOT GOING THAT WAY!

      Parrot: Waaawk waawk! I just said we’re not going that way!

      Parrot: sqwaaaaawkk waawkk! I just said we’re not going that gay!

      Parrot: Yeah right, look at his shoes. And look, this guy just got a manicure recently. Squawk!

      GTA Thief: SHUT THE FUCK UP IM NOT GAY

      Parrot: SQWAAAWK, Shut the fuck up I’m not *that* gay!

      GTA Thief: I didn’t say that!!! Fuck you birds!

      Parrot: Waawk. I’m not gay, I fuck birds. Sqwaaaa

      GTA Thief: God dammit. This isn’t even worth it!

      *pulls over, gets out and runs*

      Parrot: You know we’re going to be asked to make a statement. Gary, stash the weed.

      • daisy

        You brain is fascinating , a wee bit scary but fascinating .

      • JJ

        Gary The Parrot: Man, why do I always have to stash the damn weed?

        Lead Parrot: Cause your the one with the bag Gary.

        Side Kick Parrot: Yeah Gary, you’re the one with the bag.

        Gary The Parrot: It’s not a bag I’ve told you a million times it is a vestigial pouch from my ancestors from Australia!

        Side Kick Parrot: It’s a vestigial pouch from my ancestors… (whines)

        Gary The Parrot: Shut up doofus!

        Side Kick Parrot: Shut up doofus!

        Lead Parrot: Both of you shut up, I think he’s coming back!

        Gary The Parrot: (puts weed in small flap of feather skin, grumbles to self)

        All parrots turn and look as man re-enters car, he is carrying a plastic bag and a small hammer.

      • Juicer77

        ROFL

  • UhLasare

    So, does Danny M gets into ethics trouble for this when one of these women told the Co$?

    • daisy

      ha ha ha ha -good one

    • Helen Van Patterson Patton

      My guess is that he wouldn’t get in trouble for raping. But he would for “pulling in” bad PR.

    • JJ

      No, one of the women did, for telling.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I heard he didn’t they said “it wasn’t rape.” Not to be crass but rectal bleeding…WTF? Remember often these ethics officers are 14 year olds, seriously. Astra Woodcraft would have to talk to men who came to her after they masterbated at that age.

  • JJ

    When it is all said and done and in the official court record could we say Miscavige “pulled it in”?

  • JJ

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-masterson-denies-20170303-story.html

    the claims are false and it’s for publicity, cause with out DJ jazzy rapist, Scientology would have nothing but glowing press…mmm

  • sizzle8

    Great review of Louis Theroux’ movie from the New York Times.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/08/movies/my-scientology-movie-review.html

    • Todd Tomorrow

      It was just O.K. and I love Louis’s work.

      • Juicer77

        For anyone not versed in what $cientology believes, it probably was quite confusing. For armchair psychs like me it was a fascinating case study of one man. Not Miscavige.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          He did a better job with his two part series on Westburough Babtist (see youtube). Yeah, I was sadly disappointed. I watched it twice and really liked how he got martin’s goat. Other than that Louis’s new style was just weird compared to his other works, of which, I’ve seen at least 20 or more examples of. It did seem to really affect marty the guy lost it after this project.

          • Juicer77

            Part of me is hoping today’s post will be a follow-up on Rathbun and the court case. But part of me also wants him to just be quiet and go away and raise his kid.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I was berated for ages on this sight forever because I claimed,”he knows more” like where the bodies are buried. Funny, I don’t get that much anymore. Of course numerous $cion deaths have the same M.O. And it makes sense that the case suddenly got dropped. They threatened to put him in jail unless she dropped it. Sorry I would not want to be his child. I pity him but he did what he was told, which was what all the German soldier’s said about their horrendous, genocidal “crimes”.I pity him as well, however, as he was life was in the perfect storm to be influenced by this sick sect. But he’s had us doing strange things like trying to find the same truck following him that was also in a picture months prior. He was a “squirell” then he said he lied about being one…It fucking goes on and on. Rinder may no more too but he is trying to make amends., I’m talking about actual murders, Juicer. Now if they ever come out then i’ll be right, again. Just sayin’…

            • Juicer77

              I can’t speculate (not enough facts to go on), but what you say makes sense.
              I wonder though, with Rathbun’s temperament… if DM had said he could pin him for serious charges, wouldn’t it be more like Rathbun to vow revenge and take Missmanage down in flames with him? He certainly could if he wanted to. I still have the feeling that the lawsuit withdrawal is some grand scheme of Rathbun’s own design, whatever that may be!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I speculate that she was pissed and wanted to be left alone after years of harassment and was told she finally had a case. Remember slowly it was getting brighter or should I say she had some woggly “wins”. Then I bet they got too Marty and said he’d better drop it or else they’d make sure he went to prison for a crime or crimes without charges that expire. Sadly I don’t think they’ll be married that long. I guess those Match.com hookups don’t last as long as statistically. For a hoot you should read some of the pages of his latest, self published book, He publishes under a different name but i’m sure there is a link to Amazon on his sight. G’night J7, have to be up early to make brownies for my associate’s birthday. Peace.

            • Juicer77

              Happy snoozing!

  • Username

    Quick note to Danny before I go to sleep… a woman never forgets when a man has hurt them. For your sake Danny, I hope you hurt only three, but your comfort level and confidence in carrying out your crimes suggests they are numerous.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      He sounds like a rapist that gets off on it. And with a church feeding you victims I’d bet he was as happy as a Catholic priest moonlighting as a cub scout leader. Hopefully this will ruin his career! Has anybody discussed the statue of limitations? Often, like Cosby, they just pay to have these things go away, which is so fucked.

      • Username

        SACRAMENTO, Sept. 29 (UPI) — Gov. Jerry Brown signed legislation that ends a 10-year statute of limitations on rape and child molestation charges. Beginning next year, the law, SB813, will eliminate a time limit for certain rape and child molestation victims to pursue charges.

        ….Victim C was 2003. I guess she has a civil case only? Maybe other crimes like drugging have a longer statue?

  • Todd Tomorrow

    For you ladies.
    Edit; Women

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTgKscVa7-A

    • Juicer77

      WHO YOU CALLIN’ A LADY? πŸ˜‰

      • Todd Tomorrow

        See correction.:)

        • Juicer77

          LOL

    • Scientologist.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Isn’t she an ex?

  • Juicer77

    Welcome, newbies and lurkers and under-the-radars. Today’s coffee is St. Lucia gold and the tea is English Breakfast. f5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86029c4980cf1ed5169883b833e64b5646f8a4af01fcd6bb07e7d241a4b024e9.jpg

    • Ann B Watson

      Coffee please Juicer77. Could never take tea tannins give my tummy fits, so one Large cup a day coffee fiend. Love the morning kitty.Thank you.πŸ˜πŸ˜»β˜•οΈ

  • OOkpik

    Stand by, good people.
    Responding to speculation about the most recent spate of attention from PIs, Tony wrote:

    “Could be Cruise. Could be Masterson. Or, maybe it’s the little thing that’s coming…

    …tomorrow morning.”

    http://tonyortega.org/2017/03/08/danny-masterson-victim-c-gets-support-from-a-veteran-actress-but-will-lapd-answer-the-call/#comment-3192960010
    It’s now “tomorrow morning”! πŸ™‚

    • Someone also promised beignets.

      • OOkpik

        And coffee. That would be NOLAGirl.
        The regulars get treats too.

        • Juicer77

          I just handle the super early morning crew. πŸ˜‰

          • OOkpik

            Thanks for that! Sometimes we need handling. πŸ™‚

            • Ann B Watson

              Super morning crew up at 4:30am with Jade Cat. Kona coffee! XOπŸ’›πŸ’œ

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              Good morning, Ann!

            • Ann B Watson

              Good Morning to one of my favorite posters,You. πŸ’˜

    • Andrew Robertson

      “Or I’m looking at a globe and calculating what it cost to send private
      investigators to the far ends of the fucking earth to fuck with people I
      know.” said Mr Ortega.

      Perhaps Alaska? You can see Russia from there. Though I hope it’s not a small insignificant country near Antarctica.

      Andrew

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I don’t remember the cost of him having had Pat Broker followed from Wyoming to Prague for over a decade but Tony got a quick interview after they sued b.m. for their termination. I wanna say 10 grand a week?

        • chukicita

          I thought that was what the father-and-son PI team following Ron Miscavige, Sr. was being paid. The ones with the silencer in their trunk.

    • Marshall

      Ah man – I already know that I’m going to be super busy at work today. How will I be able to read the bunker? πŸ˜• Seriously, this work thing just gets in the way!

      • OOkpik

        Cheer up, darlin’. Tony’s article will still be here when you get back and I’ll set a beignet aside for you.

        • Marshall

          Thank you! Haven’t had a beignet since I went to Mardi Gras a million years ago but I remember they were yummy. If I remember right – the headliner celebrity for the parade was Bob Hope. That’s how long ago it was!

      • pluvo

        Read the head line so that you know what it is about and than you have the whole day with exiting anticipation til you are finished with work and can read the article :).

      • Todd Tomorrow

        It needs to be a podcast, too. What about the people who can’t read? Doesn’t seem fair..

        • Yeah, he could do that in his spare time.
          Slacker.

      • chukicita

        Where are your priorities? Vacation day!

    • “It’s now tomorrow morning!”
      No its not.

      • OOkpik

        .Picky, picky, picky!
        What’s true for me is what is true. Hubbard said so!!!!
        Get with the program, Shorpy. ;D

  • Mick Roberts

    35 more minutes to new post….I wonder what today is going to bring……

  • An obvious question just occurred to me very late in the day – isn’t anyone involved in the cover-up of a crime an accessory after the fact?

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      I would assume they are.

    • Mick Roberts

      Yes, especially if they can obtain strong enough evidence to prove collusion with Masterson in this case (usually seems difficult to be able to prove though).

      • Strikes me that a proper investigation would have those involved competing to rat each other out for a deal. What’s missing here is a proper investigation

        The LAPD can’t even get th name or gender of a a witness right – almost as if they are signalling that the fix in, so it’s not worth trying. .

  • Robert Hanna Moore

    Morning!

  • Missionary Kid

    I guessed that there would be about 1,300 comments on this day. The actual number fell short of that by over a hundred.

    • Jgg2012

      Well MK, I guessed 2001.

  • Qbird

    Keep spinning the record Danny “Go Fuck Yourself” Masterson – you represent Scn. perfectly well. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/96c54a532a1048064595acdc8784021653579932853990e2a66aedf13805a921.png

  • Disgusting how the church protects people like Danny Masterson … yeah yeah, he isn’t convicted, but I happen to know people in and around that Hollywood scene and the likelihood of that punk doing that is quite high. I mean, short of being IN THE BEDROOM with him, there are plenty of cowed under the radar Scientologists that CAN confirm these things took place.