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Scientology, why are you keeping a cancer patient from seeing his only daughter?

 
Bernie Headley sounded really good on the phone. And he says for now, he feels good. The lung cancer he was diagnosed with in 2004 went into remission after he had a partial lung removal. It came back in 2014, but radiation treatments seem to have made that dormant as well. But then lesions started showing up on his brain.

In 2014, he was told he had three to six months to live after his lung cancer came back. And when he found out he had brain cancer, he was again told he had three to six months to live. But he still has no symptoms, and the effects of his most recent radiation treatment are receding. Doctors are waiting for his body to recover from that, and then in March they’ll do a new set of scans on his brain to see whether the lesions have grown.

“I joke about being the Energizer Bunny,” he told us by phone this week. “But Marc hates when I do that. He actually takes it more seriously than I do.”

The Marc he’s referring to is his son Marc Headley who, with his wife Claire, made a memorable appearance recently on Leah Remini’s A&E series, Scientology and the Aftermath. Marc and Claire described how they escaped from Scientology’s International Base in California in January 2005, and eventually reunited in Lee’s Summit, Missouri, where Bernie was living at the time.

Bernie was ecstatic to get his son Marc back, after losing him to Scientology some 15 years earlier.

“The night Marc called me, he was very tentative. He wasn’t sure how I was going to react. He couldn’t see me on the other end, pumping my fist, saying yes! And I can’t tell you how heartbreaking it was also. At first, Marc thought he had lost Claire.”

As Claire explained on Leah’s show, after Marc made a run for it, she had to pretend that she was through with him and was staying dedicated to Scientology.

 

[Marc and Claire on Leah Remini’s show]

 
Meanwhile, Bernie was hearing from his daughter Stephanie. “She talked to me every day after Marc blew,” he says, using the Scientology term for escaping. (The Headleys insist that Stephanie was only allowed to call as an attempt to track Marc down and get him brought back to the base.) Like her brother Marc, Stephanie Headley had been brought up in the church by her mother and had gone to Int Base after she joined Scientology’s “Sea Organization,” signing its billion-year contract and dedicating her life utterly to the organization. She eventually became the base’s director of communications.

Claire, meanwhile, was still continuing to pretend that she’d given up on Marc when she was allowed off the base for an optometrist appointment at a WalMart in Hemet. She took that opportunity to make a run for it, heading straight for Bernie’s house to be reunited with Marc.

And then Bernie stopped hearing from his daughter. “I lost contact with Stephanie the day Claire left Int Base,” he tells us. “The day Claire left, and they knew where she was going, to my house, then I stopped hearing from Stephanie.”

Bernie said he called the base and was put on hold for an hour when he tried to reach Stephanie and never got through to her. “I called the next day and they said they didn’t know who she was. She was the director of communications at the base and they expected me to believe that.”

He hasn’t heard from his daughter in the 12 years since Claire’s escape, on January 24, 2005. He’s become the target of Scientology’s disconnection policy, even though he was never a Scientologist himself — his unforgivable sin was helping his son escape to freedom.

Today, Marc and Claire each have thriving businesses in Castle Rock, Colorado, and Bernie lives nearby. While she was in the Sea Org, Claire had been forced to have two abortions, which was Scientology policy to keep Sea Org workers from needing to take off time to raise families. Once they got away from the base, however, they started making up for lost time and they now have three boys.

Bernie is happy to be a grandfather to Marc’s boys. But he’s still desperate for news about his daughter, and he knows he may be running out of time.

Through their contacts still in the church, Marc and Bernie learned that Stephanie had been “offloaded” from Int Base and was sent to a backwater facility in Canada — probably, Marc says, as punishment. Not only did Marc and Claire escape from Int Base, but they also later filed lawsuits against the church over the way they were treated in the Sea Org. (Those lawsuits were later dismissed, and an appellate judge who upheld the decision said that although the Headleys had compelling evidence of abuse, they should have sued under a different law, such as false imprisonment.)

Still relying on information they were getting second hand, Bernie and Marc learned that a year and a half ago, Stephanie left the Sea Org, which still frowns on having children, and gave birth to a baby boy. She then went to work for a Scientologist-owned company.

“Some of the people who worked there weren’t Scientologists, and it was Stephanie and her husband’s job to train them in Scientology. But the workers complained to the government, and Stephanie and her husband were fired,” Bernie says.

Watching Stephanie’s Facebook page, they learned that she then went to Mexico, where she turned her Facebook account private. Today, Bernie says, they suspect that she’s returned to Canada, but they don’t know where she is.

“She’s still a Scientologist, and contacting us would ‘threaten her eternity’,” he says, explaining what she must be thinking in Scientology terms.

“It’s not easy. Stephanie was a daddy’s girl. But we keep hoping. We keep trying,” Bernie says.

We asked him if there’s any chance that Stephanie might know about his health challenges.

He says that in 2004, when he was first diagnosed with lung cancer, he was still in touch with her, and she came to see him when he was getting a portion of his lung removed.

“It was the last time I actually saw her. She came for about a week. And her Nextel phone rang constantly — I think they were keeping track of her.”

Marc and Claire escaped from the base in 2005, and then in 2008 they all received disconnection letters at the same time.

“I got one from Stephanie. Marc got one from his mom, and Claire got one from her mom. Marc’s mom lived in Ohio, Claire’s mom lived in La Crescenta, and Stephanie lived in Canada. But their letters were all dated the same day, and all postmarked from the same place, with the same return address — Scientology’s Hollywood Guaranty Building on Hollywood Boulevard.”

In her letter, Stephanie tried to convince her father that nothing has really changed between them, except that he chose to side with Marc, who was trying to destroy the church…

Nothing has changed in our relationship, except for you chose to befriend someone who is actively attacking what I do and love to get back at some personal vendetta insted of being logical and resolving one’s own problems and being responsible for them…The fact of the matter is that what Marc has done in the past three years has only acted to pull the family more apart than ever instead of bringing it together….Marc should take responsibility for whatever happened and handle that and stop blaming everyone for this.

The letter — sent from a Scientology address — is proof, Bernie says, that Stephanie has cut herself off from him simply because the church has told her so.

In October 2014, when they learned that Bernie’s lung cancer had returned, Marc and Claire reached out to each of Stephanie’s aunts and uncles and asked for their assistance, telling them that Bernie had been told he had three to six months to live. Doctors had told him he wouldn’t live to see that Christmas. Stephanie’s mother, Trudy Hensley, responded by telling her brother that neither she or Stephanie would ever speak to Bernie again.

Despite that, Bernie continues to hold out hope that Stephanie will eventually change her mind, and he maintains a website, asking her to contact him.

 

 
He’s not giving up, but he’s not sure that Stephanie really knows what his health situation is. If someone knows her, please get in touch with us to let us know where she is, and so we can let her know that Bernie is trying desperately to see her again before it’s too late.

Why, Scientology, are you keeping this father and daughter apart?

 
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Scientology not happy with LA Times voting story

The LA Times got a lot of mileage out of their story this week showing that the only voting precinct in the deeply blue sea of Los Angeles that went for Trump included Scientology’s headquarters. We’ve long known that Scientologists tend to lean right (although we do know left-leaning former church members), and Mike Rinder has explained how Scientologists tend to vote as a bloc if they’re told the church favors a candidate.

But we’re intrigued by the reaction from Scientology vice president Janet Weiland, who expressed her displeasure with the story at a neighborhood forum. Janet’s response was spotted by Jeffrey Augustine, who sent us a screengrab…

 

Jeffrey pointed out to us that the Self Realization Fellowship is staffed by people who go home at night, and would be registered to vote where they live, not where they work.

But we love that reaction from Janet, who has a colorful history with the church. She tried to intimidate Tory Christman out of boarding a plane when Tory was leaving Scientology and going to see other former church members. More recently, she tried to shut down a Scientology protester by getting him in trouble with the organization that ran the transitional home where he was living. And even with those unsavory tasks, she managed to get honored at the White House last year. (Thanks, Obama.)

Her reaction here is curious. The Times established pretty conclusively that the Scientologists of Big Blue voted for Donald Trump, who won the election. Why not own it?

 
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Scientology gets political — in Hungary

One of our correspondents in Hungary gave us this interesting update on what’s happening in that country…

The local press is reporting that the former head of Scientology in Hungary is founding a political party.

The person in question is Katalin Weith. The party is called Magunkért Mozgalom, or Movement for Us. She is setting this up with nine other people, several of whom have strong ties to Scientology or Scientology-associated groups here. She mentions the religious law that came into effect in 2010 as being a point where religion and politics crossed paths and that it wasn’t a good thing because many religious groups lost their official status.

The 2010 law said that only those groups that had operated in Hungary for 100 years could receive all the benefits that being a religion confers. It also introduced a social benefit aspect. Either way it shut down any hope Scientology had in Hungary to reap the tax rewards of being a religion. The church was furious. By comparison, the Salvation Army also lost its status – they don’t have a 100 year history here yet – however their reaction was awesome. They said that while it was disappointing it wouldn’t change anything they do here, and true to their word they keep doing charity work.

There are 10 founders of the new party. Weith is one, and in the interview she claims not to have been in an Org since 2010. She also says she has developed her own set of views, but doesn’t elaborate. Other founders include Shelley Duncan, Attila Vegh and his brother Peter Vegh. Peter is the head of the Scientology front group Citizens Commission on Human Rights, or Állampolgári Bizottság az Emberi Jogokért.

Weith says that the party will contest the general elections in 2018, and will be opening offices for the political party in every megye (Hungary’s equivent to US states) by the end of March.

— Markthehungarian

 
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Nerdwriter on ‘The Master’

Nerdwriter Evan Puschak makes some excellent observations about how Scientology auditing “works” in his latest essay, looking at the processing scene in Paul Thomas Anderson’s 2012 movie, The Master. We have a feeling the Scientologists who cry bloody murder when you tell them auditing involves hypnosis are not going to like this one bit.

We’ll say again what we’ve been saying since this film premiered almost five years ago: PTA’s original script was much, much better and was much more about Scientology. We have a theory that it took so many years from Anderson’s initial research into Scientology to actually filming it that his passion for the subject had cooled somewhat and he let the movie become more of a vehicle for Joaquin Phoenix to chew up vast acres of scenery. Art-film lovers loved it, but for us, you knew you were in for a slog from the initial shot of Phoenix’s Freddie Quell staring over a gunwale, a shot that lasted about 12 minutes longer than we could stand. (OK, so it was 30 seconds. But still an eternity in film time.)

Sadly, what got left out of the original script were all the best jabs at L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. What’s left is still interesting, but the film’s overall weirdness and glacial pace is probably why it isn’t talked about all that much now — well, until Puschak resurrected it. He does an excellent job here and we agree with all of the points he’s making. We just wish The Master had been better.

 

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on January 27, 2017 at 07:00

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  • Panopea Abrupta

    Stephanie, call your dad.

    Damn, but the disconnection stories –
    Flavio yesterday, the Headleys today.
    DM, enough already.

    The Call Me billboard continues to be hugely important.
    Thank you again, Phil and Willie.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d281032b0baea2acde3a47507c9709ee43808de8ea46371695a523501e982aed.jpg

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    Noooooo!! Not Bernie. He is truly someone I see as a hero.

    I’m just going to go lay down and cry for awhile. 🙁

    • 0tessa

      Hug …

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        (((hugs)))

        • joan nieman

          I have no words right now.

    • Graham

      For all the reasons we see Bernie as a hero, for those very same reasons Scientology fears him as an enemy. Once your kids leave home a parent has no higher duty than to ‘be there for them’, no matter what.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        He’s the glue that brought the Headley family back together and for his part in that story I’ll always admire him. I remember how it feels to run into my Dad’s embrace and feel safe and when he welcomed Marc & Claire with open arms it was just beautiful. He’s a shining example of what a father should be and I hope every moment he has is filled with love & happiness.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Absolutely beautifully said, Nolly. You’ve made me teary because that is exactly what a dad is, and Bernie has been a rock for his family.

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            I wish we could all go camp outside his house and give him hugs on a rotating basis. 🙂

            He’s such a kind, class act. *sniff*

        • OOkpik

          NOLAGirl, I wait for your comments because you always say what’s in my heart in a way I could not express nearly as well. Thank you. <3

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            ❤️❤️❤️

    • Bernie Headley

      If I have anything to do with it, I’m not going away any time soon. I am way too stubborn!

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Good!! Keep fighting my friend and know that many hearts are with you. You’ve inspired so many of us to be better people, parents & friends. And I meant what I said: To me, you are a hero. ❤️❤️❤️

        #FuckCancer!!! (((((hugs)))))

      • Juicer77

        ^^^

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Bernie 🙁 I’m so sad to learn about your health problems. We love you. *Group hug*

  • “Why not own it?”
    Yeah, because they attack everything that doesn’t originate from them. Because they are so guilty they feel everything is an attack on them.
    Why not just refrain from commenting?
    Or, better yet, how about “owning it” with “Yeah, looks like we know a winner when we see it.”

    • Graham

      I’ve never seen so much whingeing and complaining from a group that actually WON the battle.

      • Like display some self-confidence instead of insecurity and suspicion?
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78758f53e7c4f5e7e791272ed2b525c306865241e35c7c11d252f886a9e88c38.jpg

        • Frodis73

          Can I make a Bunker rule? All pics of this disgusting POS need to be proceeded by a warning. Just like we do with the pregnancy pic of the Feshbachs or however they spell their name. I seriously cannot look at this man child’s face w/out wanting to punch the screen or scream or puke or all three.

          • Sorry you had to see that.
            Will warn next time.

            • Frodis73

              Lol, I was mostly being a smart ass, but he does need a warning. Orange alert!

            • Yeah I knew that. I was playing along.

          • Len Zinberg

            Memo to Underground Bunker Social Justice Warriors:
            Were you aware that alt.left RFK Jr. and his sister. Kerry Kennedy, are shills for Scientology front groups? Or that another committed leftist, Javier Becerra, Attorney General of California, has criticized the German Gov’t. and defended Scientology.
            I can understand and support criticism and debate, but the unhinged vitriol serves what purpose, exactly?
            President Trump might…I repeat, might…help bring justice to Scientology’s victims. There are shake-ups in the State Department, which, previously has been in the forefront of protecting Scientology.
            A new IRS Commissioner might,…I repeat, might…decide to revisit Fred Goldberg’s capitulation.
            The new Attorney General might…just might… possibly be persuaded to investigate Scientology’s human rights abuses.
            I, and some others have been writing and getting information to the Trump Administration through a variety of channels, to act on Scientology. It may well be an exercise in futility but at least has the nominal advantage of seeming somewhat rational.

            • Well we agree on one thing at least: RFK Jr. is a loon whose antivax nuttery reveals his lack of critical thinking skills. We all have them. Both left and right. Your loon just happens to be in a position to do the most damage of any person in history. If you don’t see the parallels between Trump and Hubbs, I don’t know what I can say that would make any difference other than “remember the moment when you realized Hubbard was a dangerous charlatan and totally full of shit?” Try that hat on again.

            • Robert Eckert

              “There are shake-ups in the State Department” He fired (or they quit first, it’s disputed) the civil servants who makes sure the consulates are staffed and that there are Marines guarding the embassies. Possibly this is his way of throwing a wrench into the works of people trying to get visas into the US (or, for that matter, US travellers going overseas) but it has nothing to do with State Department policies: these weren’t policy-making positions but administrative ones.

            • Frodis73

              I was aware of RFK, he is a nut job, anti science idiot and it has been talked about many many times here. I have said this before, if Trump does something for scientology I will give him credit for it. However, I am NOT holding my breath. If you do not see how and why he is a threat to our country, my explanation wont help. I do like Artoo’s suggestion a lot though. It is disturbing that you do not see why this is different or that you don’t see the parallels with LRH and Trump.

        • PickAnotherID

          Ugh! Not while I’m eating breakfast. Please!

      • Arthur Pewtie

        Nothing like a sore winner.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    It’s clear from Stephanie’s disconnection letter that this wasn’t a daughter writing from her heart to her dad, it was a mechanical response to an impossible situation that had to be run past Stephanie’s seniors for them to add and change where she hadn’t been ruthless enough:

    “Nothing has changed in our relationship, except for you chose to befriend someone who is actively attacking what I do.”

    You don’t “befriend” your own son.

    • “You don’t “befriend” your own son.”
      edit to add: wow

    • “someone”
      Your brother, his son.

    • LeeAnneClark

      That was exactly the thought that went through my mind when I read that! “Befriend” your own son? Making a father choose between his son and daughter?

      Only in Scientology.

      The only reason any of this even makes sense to me is that I am well aware of the SCN view that, as thetans, relationships with other humans, especially family members, are meaningless. Their belief that they will live many millions of lives, and their family in this one is nothing more than a temporary and utterly unimportant construct, is what drives this. It’s a hard concept to grasp for a never-in, but I’ve read about it enough that I can see how it infuses all of these disconnection stories. It is only this belief that, I’m sure, allows these people to walk away from the most important thing in life – your loved ones. But they ARE humans, and I believe that somewhere beneath the brainwashing, there is pain at their loss. At least I hope there is.

    • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

      Someone sat down with her, like an hour or longer sitdown, with her, to help edit/coach her letter, to cover all the points OSA wished that letter to cover.

      Scientologists dealing with bigtime SPs get coached what to write, and have their letters heavily, but smoothly, edited/coached.

      It’s covered in Hubbard’s “Problems of Work” book the coaching help in general of how to write letters with antagonistic family members. OSA handlers and then the “good” Ethics Officers are trained and have perfected coaching members how to deal with their SP family in writing, point by point, they use model off the rack approved OSA model points, and then a trained Ethics Officer or handler person who have done these crafted letter answering sits down and tailors the general points to cover.

      It’s pretty institutionalized coaching, and really invasion of their individual Scientologist’s own intellectual maturity as adults.

      I so wish that a psychology student would study up the OSA/Ethics Officer coaching that Scientology does, as it is a feature that directly adds up to the Robert Jay Lifton major points of how Scientology is a totalistic manipulative harmful group for their members’ minds.

      OSA/Ethics Officers brainwashing manipulation 101.

      I myself did it with my training “twin” once, in my “twin’s” case, OSA had washed their hands of trying to resolve my “twin’s” botched family situation, and I just used Hubbard’s “Problems of Work” (by the book, I was a total stubborn Hubbardite when it comes to following what HUBBARD wrote, to the word). I one-up’d OSA who’d given up trying to sort out my “twin’s” botched legal scene with her ex husband and son.

      If done smoothly, the Scientologist thinks it’s all wonderful, but in fact, it’s like how Scientology lawyers “win” for Scientology.

      Outside intervention is what it is, and just using decency.

      What’s so horribly wrong in the movement could even be more benignly done, using even the Hubbard options, but then what happens is it’s like having to rely on lawyers to defend oneself in court.

      And in the end of the day you end up using smart highly paid outside lawyers to defend Scientology’s rights to carry on their pie in the blue sky “body-thetan” exorcism and past-lives crank pseudo-therapy that parades as a fake religion. Money and lawyers are the key factor protecting Scientology. Dupes’ money keeps the lawyers protecting Scientology’s rights to sell past-lives bogus spiritual counseling and dead-alien-souls-exorcism and call themselves a religion.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Markthehungarian, thank you. We are so fortunate to have you, and people like you, all over the world keeping an eye on local developments.

  • Sunny

    That Self Realization Fellowship is on the Scientology published list of SP groups! (Thanks pluvo… posted link below)
    Stephanie…. I hope you lurk, and read, and find out that you have family that loves and cares about you, and wants you back in your life.

    • Graham

      Can this list of SP groups be found on the ‘net?

      • pluvo

        This is an old list. The current SP-list certainly is a multiple thereof. The CoS is hiding the list, also from their own public, because it would be proof of how many people have left and that far more people are declared SPs than they have members.

        The Scientology Enemies List: http://www.xenu.net/archive/enemy_names/enemy_list.html

        …and it’s growing and growing…

        • Sunny

          Thanks! Yep, it is on that list (so is my dad, SP declared since 75).

          • Dylan

            That list is pure evil. I remember seeing it and finding my name on it. The sinking feeling in my gut. Labeled forever by Scientology with the intention of keeping the meat bodies they had that do believe.

        • Graham

          Thanks! That’s quite some list, dripping with paranoia. What kind of ‘church’ has an enemies list?

          • pluvo

            Here 14 minutes of “DEAD FILE SP”s – visual with people talking in the background videoed from their computer. (I forgot that I had the link)
            Put on youtube by operationsee4yourself:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NitY5oiPT9s

          • ze moo

            The Moonies for one and there are several others that do similar things.

            • daisy

              It is not a church either .

        • Kestrel

          Interesting that Pat Broeker left the organization in 1989 but was not on this list in 1992 and had PIs track his every move.

        • Empowered by new technology (e.g. the ‘phones and camera that Scientologists hide behind when pressed) I suspect that documents have now morphed into something more than just a list of names.

          I’m told that is you are imaged with a known SP, your picture will be added to their dossier as a ‘known associate’ in the hope that they can identify you later.

          Email addressed and website URLs – and even comments here – are likely part of this expanding view of what constitutes an ‘enemy’.

          This approach didn’t work for the East German Stazi, who had informers everywhere, and the power to knock on your door at 04:00 and whisk you away for an interrogation &/or a stay in labour camp. It’s certainly now working for Scientology.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      “That Self Realization Fellowship is on the Scientology published list of SP groups!” – Ha!

      • MarcabExpat

        Obviously they feel that the Expensive Headquarters Yoga People are horning in on their territory 🙂

    • “Paramahansa Yogananda parlez vous”.
      (Firesign Theater)

    • MarcabExpat

      Oh man, irony. Are they a squirrel group?

      (At first I read your comment as “on the published list of Scientology front groups”, but in that case they mightn’t be going home at night…)

      ETA: never mind, I can haz Google…

  • grundoon

    • TonyOrtega

      I’ll change was to included to make it more clear.

  • Observer

    I can’t.

    Love to the Headleys.

  • Snuzey

    Stephanie…. if you are reading…. you know you have to speak with your dad. Can your eternity be so fragile, can Scientology progress be so fickle that it can’t withstand you seeing your dad and telling him that you love him?
    Its not too late. Do it.

  • Newiga

    Stephanie,please, please! Call you dad and your brother. You are loved and missed dearly.

  • pluvo

    “Nothing has changed in our relationship, except for you chose to befriend someone who….”

    Bernie Headly, a non-Scientologiststs, “befriended someone” because he helped his son?? “Befriended” his own son? Are they mad or just extremely viscous?

    This all shows clearly how inhuman the ‘humanitarians’ of the Church of Scientology are.

    • Does that have to be one or the other?

      • pluvo

        No, I had to stop writing because I feel like writing $!&*’#§$%&ß2@*+&.#?5#&§”@ …………

    • April

      I think you mean vicious, not viscous? Unless, of course, you intented to call them thick and sticky.

      • Robert Eckert

        They are pretty thick sometimes…

      • pluvo

        Yes, vicious. TY, corrected.

    • Bernie Headley

      Just to be clear, I never for a moment thought Stephanie wrote the letter. It isn’t her manner of speaking/writing. She just signed it, probably under a lot of duress.

      • pluvo

        Bernie, I never assumed that Stephanie wrote the letter.

        I’m totally disgusted by these creeps working in OSA for DM. They are so cruel and inhumane, punishing you a father and a non-Scientologist after all.
        Pls tell Leah Remini your story, so that the whole world will know what disgusting creeps these people from the intelligence branch of this so called ‘church’ are and how they have the chutzpah to present themselves as ‘humanitarians’ – fu#king hypocrites.

        I wish you well and so much that Stephanie wakes up and will see you!

        PS: I always like it when you comment here; even if you would just say “Hello.”

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    We know that many public Scientologists and staff land at the Underground Bunker and read in secret when they’re on the verge of leaving. Maybe, just maybe…

    Please call your dad, Stephanie. He loves you so much.

  • EDN/laineybin

    I can’t imagine not having my family with me during such a difficult time. Sending my thoughts and best wishes to you.

  • Ritter Joe

    Tony, We know what you meant but are you missing a word after ‘only’ ? Trump/Red/Republican?
    “The LA Times got a lot of mileage out of their story this week showing that the only voting precinct in the deeply blue sea of Los Angeles was the location of Scientology’s headquarters.”

    • Tony Ortega

      Fixed now.

  • While we sadly know the answer to the question “Why, Scientology, are you keeping this father and daughter apart?” – it’s because the criminal organisation known as the church of $cientology is a cult – it’s an excellent lead-in to the Phillboard in two weeks time.

    Just hoping we’re not due two weeks of these stories. I fear there are a lot of them around, but even so….

  • SarahDB

    As a daughter of a wonderful caring and loving dad like Bernie, this breaks my heart. 💔

  • MarcabExpat

    Meanwhile, Bernie was hearing from his daughter Stephanie. “She talked to me every day after Marc blew,” he says, using the Scientology term for escaping.

    Amazing. Scientology downplays and even attacks the importance of family connections, yet doesn’t hesitate to exploit them, because deep down they know that those bonds are the strongest.

    Oh Marc, aren’t you glad now that you swallowed your fears and called your dad.

    Mr. Bernie, sir, I hope you live a million years and see your daughter in less than one.

  • Frodis73

    What a sad story. I hope there are some UTR’s reading that know Stephanie (or better yet, Stephanie herself) lurking) that pass a message along.
    DM-You suck. Just because you have NO family doesn’t mean you have to force it on everybody else you chicken poop little coward.

  • PickAnotherID

    $cientologist’s idea of “improving their relationships with family and friends” (f5)
    http://www.goforwardtogether.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Destroying-families.jpg

    • ze moo

      Disconnection is all about control and making the minions prove their fealty to the COB. If clams had such great communication skills, why can’t they abide anyone with anti-$cieno feelings?

  • Mockingbird

    Heartbreaking story today Bunkeroos.

    After hearing of and witnessing hundreds of incidents of disconnection personally you would think it would lose its sting but seeing people like the Headley family and hearing the details it still ferls like a punch to the gut every time. I never met the Headley family while in Scientology but have seen them in videos and heard them on podcasts and read interviews so much it feels emotionally like I really know them.

    I am sure many Bunkeroos can relate. To hear all about their misadventures in the Sea Org and escape and battles with Scientology creates an emotional investment. They are real people you end up really rooting for. Bernie Headley has had to face issues so many people do regarding Scientology. His race against time is perhaps tragic and all too common for parents with children in Scientology. You want to get them back before it’s too late and we all have a limited amount of time as mortals.

    I hope their family can reunite soon and be happy with the time they have together.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      You are a good person, Mockingbird.

      • Mockingbird

        That’s highly debatable, but thanks.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    From Hubbard’s point of view disconnection had to make perfect sense. If people were saying bad things about Scientology, sooner or later his followers would understand that those people were right and then the followers would leave. Open discussion had to be squelched.

    But if he told people that he wouldn’t have a cult.

    So he told them that anyone who spoke against Scientology was a suppressive who didn’t want others to improve. If they were your family that was just a twist of fate. A split second ago (in the cosmic scheme of things) they were just random thetans looking for a body to inhabit. And in another split second (in the cosmic scheme) you will be gone anyway, looking for another body to inhabit. But because you are a Scientologist you will have full memory of past lives when you take on that next body.

    If my memory serves me well cancer is curable through Scientology by auditing out the engram during miosis. And if someone suffering from cancer can’t get back to that engram, heck, it’s their own fault for having it anyway.

    So, death by cancer. Irrelevant. Mom, Dad, Sister or Brother. Irrelevant. All that matters is that Scientology stays around to attain for every person in the world those memories of past lives.

    Personal notes: I will never forget Captain Bill, a loony by any measure, telling the crowd I was part of that Scientology would take over the world by 1975. Nor will I forget my dear cousin, a twenty year member of the cult at the time, telling me that he had seen babies born to Scientologists with full memories of previous lives who function as adults immediately after learning to control their bodies.

    • ze moo

      Your cousin was full on crazy. Anyone who could believe that could do anything.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        He was. He was in there for twenty three years. They pulled out his brain, cut it into fine strips, dipped it in egg and bread crumbs, deep friend it in hog fat, then shoved it back in and he never even noticed.

        • ze moo

          Chicken fried brain? That is a new one. I wonder if Paula Dean has that recipe?

    • I remember trawling through early documents concerning dianetics. In one, Hubbard declares that leukaemia is caused by the engram, “it turns my blood into water” and had been cured by dianetic processing.

      It’s difficult to engage with anyone who truly accepts that kind of thing – in fact the evidence suggests that, by merely asking for rigorous evidence of any cures you are likely to drive them deeper in.

      All I can say is that the first step to seeing this self-serving nonsense for what it is must be to break out of the social isolation that is so firmly imposed by the CofS, even a little bit.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        I have taunted a few of these people on the internet with quotes from Dianetics. Not surprisingly not one of them has said, “Gee whiz… I had no idea! I am going to give this a second thought. I could be wasting my life!!” It is more like the robot on Lost in Space waving his arms going, “Does not Compute, Does not Compute”. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBAijg5Betw

  • Mockingbird

    Always remember citizens Scientology says Scientology builds strong families. War is peace, slavery is freedom. Alternative facts now available in America.

    • PickAnotherID

      ‘1984’ Publisher Orders New Printing as Sales Soar”

      • chukicita

        America decides to read a book! And it’s not Dianetics.

      • Mockingbird

        Yeah, now is a great time to write about a totalitarian regime because I live in one.

    • chukicita

      Ketchup is a vegetable!

  • PickAnotherID

    Stephanie, pick up the phone and call. Your eternity belongs to you, not $cientology.
    http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Billboard-e1456742645503.jpg

  • Graham

    OT but hopefully worth sharing.

    In London in the ’70s there was an extremist Communist sect which degenerated into a tiny cult. The leader convinced a small group of women that he was literally God and they went and hid out in a series of houses in a London suburb. This came to a head round about 2013 when one of the younger members escaped and the leader was jailed for 23 years for sexual abuse. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34835374

    Last night BBC TV had a documentary about this. When everything had been exposed and the cult leader had been carted off to prison, two [possibly three] women still remained in the house, convinced that he was innocent. A reporter attempted to interview them on the doorstep but was turned away by the most articulate of the women, on the grounds that the press were lackeys of the fascist state, which wanted to hound them BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING SO SUCCESSFUL.

    I was really struck by the parallel with Scientology. The indoctrination can penetrate so deeply that you can still see yourself as being successful (a view reinforced by continuing to spout cult jargon) even after your leader has been convicted as a violent sexual predator (committing the offenses in the same house you live in) and your membership is down to two committed persons plus one waverer.

    Sadly for some people, hopefully a very tiny number, the kool aid enters their very bones.

    • Ever met an SP?

      Was going to post on the same subject myself, linking to a different article on the same subject that focuses on the impact of the cult on one young woman who was born and grew up in it.

      This is one of the most extreme instances of cult destructiveness I can remember hearing about; the vile specimen who ran it will hopefully die in prison. Parallels with Scientology extend even to seemingly mundane details. How about this, for example? ‘Balakrishnan introduced many acronyms into the language of the collective – the “British fascist state” became BFS and Nato was known as Farto, which stood for Fascist and Racist Terror Organisation.’

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-b0af7ef5-1031-4e1f-a3ac-b3c21ef0f932

      • Or, to look at it from a different perspective, in any organisation that includes a guru to whom you surrender your free will and judgement and social isolation, the same situation arises.

        It is dressed up and justified in different ways (with concepts drawn from a religious tradition, a political ideology or, in Hubbard’s case, pulp SF fantasy) However, at bottom, they all share certain characteristics (a demonisation of the wider world, some form of ‘shunning’ which may include personal attacks &c.).

        Scientology is really a special case of a wider phenomenon.

        There’s an excellent book by Janja Lalich entitled “Bounded Choice”. It presents a theory which helps to explain why people stick with this kind of organisation, apparently against reason.

        It is informed by her own experience of what she now describes as a “political cult”, and there is a wonderful scene where the members (including Lalich) confront their gurus and reject them, leading to the final collapse of the organisation.

        The tragedy of people who will never recover is, perhaps counterbalanced by the potential for people who are now under the thumb to wake up, and take back control of their own lives.

    • It should be added that the police operation to extract the victims was incredibly careful and sensitive, deploying a team of highly-qualified clinical psychologists from the get-go to reach a handful of people. Also, English law does not include the impediment presented in the US by exploitation of the first amendment.

      That case brought home to me the scale and difficulty of the challenge facing the FBI, should they ever undertake large-scale raids on Scientology property. All that could realistically expect to achieve is uncover the kinds of crimes that they could prosecute in the absence of a complaint.

    • joan nieman

      I am going to watch this now. Thanks Graham.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Oh, Graham – the Irish neighbour who is interviewed and breaks down because he didn’t know what was happening next door 🙁

  • SarahDB

    Regraded Being continues to expose the machinations inside the SO bubble! Check out the fine print in the last panel! http://www.mikerindersblog.org/friday-regraded-being-81/

    • No wonder they have so many Prosperity seminars: It’s an opportunity for Sea Org to scavenge food and other supplies.

  • Observer
    • Graham

      To misquote Orwell, If you want a vision of a Scientology future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face – forever.

      • The rest of that quotation (delivered in “1984” by an ‘executive’ of Orwell’s fictional ruling party and torturer) describes an important aspect of Hubbard’s motivation perfectly.

        Think of him at sea, standing at the bridge of a ship watching people being ‘overboarded’, or being forced to push a peanut around the deck with their nose, until they bled.

        always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever.

        For Hubbard (and now for Miscavige) the exercise of power over others is an end in itself.

        Why punish a man’s sister, like a hostage because he has left your organisation? Why deny that man’s father access to his daughter when he is gravely ill? There are many complex reasons – but a large part of the explanation is because the man at the top simply can, and enjoys the cruelty.

        If you have no wish to exercise power over others it’s difficult to understand the crude simplicity of this motive. But there it is. Some people really are like that.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          It’s both amazing and disgusting that a group that has made such an intense study of suppressive persons so central to its ideology and doctrines would fail to see how completely lil davey the cult’s Super SP I/C ticks off every single one of the identifying characteristics of one.

          After all that PTS/SP training, all that auditing and all those visits to ethics to handle their PTS situations, you’d think these $cilons would be able to spot them at a hundred paces! And lil davey, with his very public demonstrations of violent sadism, just makes that task so easy that any middle school child – given just the most basic and cursory instruction – could identify him with no problem at all. Why can’t $cilons see what’s right before them!?

          What good IS $cn if you can’t even identify folks that are about as blatantly evil and sadistic as they come?

          • What astonishes me is how Scientologists, who are supposed to be so capable cannot even encounter a so-called SP without terrible consequences. They are so vulnerable.

            It seems to me that, according to Scientology’s own doctrines and practice, we have much more power over them than they have over us (and generally use it more wisely).

            • Harpoona Frittata

              That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for awhile now: SPs RULE!

              Seems like even Oaty 8’s go all bunny in the headlights whenever someone questions them about their cult’s beliefs and practices. Just one bad encounter can cause them to lose all their spiritual gains, to the point that it seems like they never had them to begin with!

              Frankly, I’ve never felt so powerful and it just makes me want to go out and psychically dominate some more, just to keep in practice 😉

            • I was impressed by the Sea Org when I encountered them at Saint Hill Manor last year. They pointed a cheap camera at me, stared at the LCD panel on the back, and zoned out.

              They were afraid that protesters would try to enter the grounds, so I had the weird experience of being ‘stared down’ (via his camera) by a man standing in the middle of a field, who didn’t move a muscle while I photographed the scenery.

              They were simply impotent.

              I didn’t feel powerful – just perplexed and curious about their strange mindset.

    • MarcabExpat

      DAMN, Obs. I mean, yeah, but damn.

      • Observer

        No point in sugarcoating it.

        • joan nieman

          Profound and true. Good one OBS.

        • MarcabExpat

          No point at all.

  • OOkpik

    Scientology, why are you keeping a daughter from seeing her heartbroken Dad?

  • Franklin Adams

    If you are reading this, or are someone UTR who can pass the message along, Call your father while you still can. You will only wind up blaming yourself after they find a reason to declare you yourself in a few years if the pattern that Mike Rinder’s pointed out continues, and it will as long as the paramount leadership remains unchanged.

  • Sunny

    Stephanie, you cannot, and will not be able to turn back time.
    Let me tell you a story.
    When I left Scn, my brother and I had not talked. I did not know where he stood regarding Scn. And because I was declared, I assumed he would be disconnected. At first I did not try to contact him, because I did not want to cause him and his family any trouble. I did not want to put him in a position where he would have to chose sides.
    Later that first year I was out, I received a phone call from another relative, telling me that my nephew only had days to live (he had been battling a rare cancer for over 4 years of his short… too short life). The emptiness I felt that day, that week, that month, that year. I felt so helpless. It was not the time to barge in on my brother. I wanted so badly to be there with them through that. But the Scn disconnection was already in place. And I was not there for the final days of my nephews life.
    Six months after that, we had a family reunion. I asked my never-in family not to mention that I would be there. They kept their word on that.
    I showed up, and my brother was there, with his family.
    I had no idea what would happen.
    I was one of the lucky ones.
    My brothers wife, without a word, walked over to me and handed me their newborn daughter to hold.
    I was shocked. No words. Complete trust, that I was not expecting.
    We spent the next two days catching up on everything. Now we are very close.
    Stephanie, how about showing up at your dads house? No words needed.

    • Newiga

      I’m so happy to hear that you have your brother in your life, Sunny. Brothers are something aren’t they? Mine is the bee’s knees! <3

      • Roger Larsson

        Tory/Magoo, Victoria Christman, had a brother in Amsterdam.

    • Kristen

      Loved reading that story! I’m helping my oldest and closest friend deal with a death at the moment, and there is always so much regret and 20/20 hindsight when someone passes. I hope the Headleys get to see Stephanie again soon, and that she won’t have any regrets years from now.

    • LeeAnneClark

      Now that’s a beautiful story. It inspires hope.

  • Susan black

    David Miscavige seems to ENJOY splitting up families. What’s the pleasure in that? Maybe the sick fuck is just so shallow emotionally that it pains him to see those around him taking pleasure in what he will never have. Because he can’t buy it.

    • PickAnotherID

      He reminds me of the kid who got his kicks pulling the wings off of flys. Sick.

      • Susan black

        yup. He shouldn’t be allowed around small animals.

        • Observer

          Who needs small animals when you have human beings to abuse?

          • Susan black

            Uh, did you forget we humans are animals? And many of us are small. Even smaller than the little guy 🙂

    • Franklin Adams

      He’s a sociopath or possibly a psychopath with a strong narcissistic streak in all likelihood, he clearly has no empathy and cannot understand those that do.

  • Richard

    The whole belief system of Scientology is very cynical towards death. If you look at the back page of “The Auditor”, it has announcements, including Births, Marriages and People Who Have Left Their Body.

    Scientology says that the Thetan is immortal and when a body dies, the Thetan picks up another body. The goal of Scientology is to become a fully able Thetan that does not need a body for anything except some game-playing that uses the body.

    And this is where starts one of the traps in Scientology. Not a trap in so much as life does not, in fact, exist after death. It is not for me to decide whether there is an after-life or reincarnation after death. No, the trap is the belief that if one associates oneself with an SP, or reads Scientology critical material, this would prevent one growing spiritually and attaining these high levels as a Thetan.This is what Scientologists are genuinly afraid of if they are connected to SPs. They are afraid of what they call their “Eternity”.

    What is so alarming and dangerous about this belief, is that if a Scientologist disconnects from a loved one and that loved one dies without ever again having contact with that Scientologist, even if everyone of us eventually do “pick up” another body, that very body and person that has just died, or rather, one’s own father or mother or whoever, is never going to be repeated ever again. The Scientologist can live with their idea that Ma or Pa have another body but they will never actually see “that” body or person, which was Ma or Pa, ever again. And that is sad.

    Many people say “You only live once, so make the best of it.” Scientologists on the other hand believe in eternal life. Would it not be more balanced and rational to say, instead, something like “You only live this life once, so make the best of it” which would include loving your mother and father and spending some time with them?

    • Roger Larsson

      Interesting thought.

      When everyone is gone Xenu trapped inside a forcefield powered by an eternal battery keeps on going on.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      I agree with you. I would only add that $cientology’s theory that one has an infinite number of future lives greatly cheapens the value of the present life.

      And when one realizes the fallacy of that theory, (even after thousands of years and a billion deaths, still no objective evidence of an “afterlife”) it is too late: one has wasted all or a big part of one’s only life.

  • The 2010 law said that only those groups that had operated in Hungary for 100 years could receive all the benefits that being a religion confers. It also introduced a social benefit aspect. Either way it shut down any hope Scientology had in Hungary to reap the tax rewards of being a religion. The church was furious.

    Yes, yes they were, and went to work lobbying the US government to pressure Hungary to change that law.

    Category:US State Department

  • PickAnotherID

    O/T: Today in 1967 Virgil “Gus” Grissom, Edward H. White II, and Roger B. Chafee died in the Apollo 1 fire. It was having a long talk with “Gus” Grissom after his March 1965 “Molly Brown” Gemini flight that led me to join the Air Force the following summer, after I graduated from HS.

    • Observer

      I was in second grade. Our teacher told us about it, but we didn’t really grasp what a huge tragedy it was. I remember the teachers talking about it among themselves (it was a small school).

      • PickAnotherID

        I was stationed in Turkey at the time, and broke down crying when I heard the news.

        • BlueHeronBay

          PickAnotherID, thank you for your service. My late father-in-law (career Air Force) was stationed at Ankara ’64-’67. My husband (who would also join the Air Force right out of high school) was a wee lad then.

          • PickAnotherID

            I was up on the Black Sea, at Samsun, from Jan 66 – Apr 67. Passed through Ankara on my way there.

    • Franklin Adams

      I’m a space nut myself. I wanted to to be an astronaut like everybody. I grew up in Orlando so I saw pretty much every launch between 1987 and 2015. My dad also worked on the Trident program in the Navy so rockets and missiles were always a big part of my life. Ive seen everything from Tridents to the Space Shuttle to the Delta IV Heavy and the Private rockets like the Falcon 9, and I’m already planning on going home for the first launch of the SLS, One of the things I miss the most (aside from not freezing my posterior off constantly) about home was looking to the East and seeing something going up and sometimes hearing/feeling it. Also, John Young went to my elementary school, so we were spoiled in terms of having a bunch of stuff from the Administration and from him personally,
      like part of the flight suit he wore on the first Space Shuttle mission and some lunar stuff from Apollo 16. I wonder if OCPS still has it at the School.

      I wound up being too tall for fighters or attackers and I screwed up too much in high school to get into the academy to fly anything else (I found out too late that I could have still flown Bombers or Transports). I tried enlisting in the Air Force, figured I could maybe sham into a commission that way and do missiles or satellite control and get over to Vandenburg or Cape Canaveral that way, but I got disqualified for being underweight, which fortunately didn’t matter to the Army in the middle of a war.

      I wonder if I’ve got any of pictures from LC-34 at CCAFS here, if I can find any I’ll post them as replies. They really need a better memorial there. A couple of plaques, three benches, and a serial number spraypainted with “ABANDON IN PLACE” doesn’t do what happened to three extremely brave people at that site justice.

      • PickAnotherID

        Apparently someone has decided it’s okay to put the Apollo I capsule door on display for the 50th remembrance of the accident.

        • Franklin Adams

          Yeah they dug out a few pieces of Challenger from where they’re buried in one of the Minuteman test silos at LC-31 awhile back to put on display too. I find it in poor taste, but I’ve got a thing about disturbing what amount to be the graves of heroes.

        • Rasha

          Statues of the men, yes. Otherwise, no. Don’t think so.

    • Rasha

      I admit I was too young to know anything when it occurred, but I’ve read and re-read the accounts of the events, being a space and science fanatic since I was a puppy. Those three men get a salute from me every time they are remembered, which is often.

      • PickAnotherID

        The thing about Gus was he always made time to talk with people after a speaking engagement. Even if it didn’t make the 6 o’clock news.

  • madame duran

    He hasn’t heard from his daughter in the 12 years since Claire’s escape, on January 24, 2005. He’s become the target of Scientology’s disconnection policy, even though he was never a Scientologist himself — his unforgivable sin was helping his son escape to freedom.

    (bold emphasis mine)

    Oh, but look at what Gemma (JAW’s clam girlfriend) said on Twitter:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c540ab0f0b69e72a104e4a154ba6d6f8b7c2c7fa1a3e960d702375e26543b3e6.jpg
    Now compare her definition with what Scientology states on its own website:
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0c94fba21b31438fa27df8ccd17e7f32e7730c9990d07255c929163869607e99.jpg
    Of course, I had to bring this to her attention:
    https://twitter.com/madameduran/status/824973240766447616

  • ONEpointONE

    Stephanie has a lifetime of regret awaiting her. And shame.

    • flyonthewall

      I think in Grade IV you get release from all regret and shame. Might be III, idk

  • gtsix

    Noooo. Cancer, you leave my adoptive dad the fuck alone! So sorry to hear Bernie. I wish with all my heart that Stephanie calls you very very soon. You are loved by many. Thank you for being you.

  • ze moo

    ‘Go not gentle into the night’….Do not let a dead con artist keep you away from your family. The Headleys have suffered enough at the hands of Mismanage, don’t add to that suffering. Do the right thing, Stephanie Lanteigne. Now, will the chains in her mind permit that?

    Hmmmm, a $cieno political party in Hungary with a founding member named Attilia? What could go wrong? The Salvation Army is a class act, everywhere, unlike certain other groups.

    • Robert Eckert

      Attila has always been a hero, not a villain, in Hungary.

      • ze moo

        Attilia and the Huns had legitimate complaints against the Romans to start off. Sacking Rome was just a frat boy party to both of them.

        • Robert Eckert

          Yes, they were viewed as archetypes of the country boys made good despite those snooty city kids trying to keep them down.
          The Huns conquered what’s now the Ukraine before taking what became their main headquarters in the Carpathians (Buda, one half of Budapest, was founded by and named for Bleda, Attila’s brother– whom Attila killed of course to take power, but never mind). Attila appointed his favorite son Ernak (Procopius gives an account of a visit to Attila’s court where he saw Attila’s tenderness to young Ernak and heard that there was a prophecy Ernak would restore the family’s fortunes after a dark time) to rule the eastern end of his empire, and his descendants remained the honorary “khagans” of this area even though real power was in the hands of a Khazar chieftain called the “bek” (khagan was to bek as mikado to shogun in medieval Japan). The khagans of Khazary converted to Judaism as a diplomatic ploy to maintain neutrality between Constantinople and Baghdad (Jews with names like Kagan, Kaganovsky, Kahane, etc. often think they are “Cohens”, descendants of Aaron the high priest, but are actually descendants of Attila). They intermarried with their vassal tribes such as the Bulgars and the Magyars. The Bulgarian and Hungarian royal houses traced themselves to Ernak, who was called “Irnik” in the Bulgarian genealogy, but the Hungarians used the Khazar-Turkic translation of the name, which means “sprout” or “offshoot”, Chaba in Turkic. But in Hungarian Csaba sounded like the word csabit “to entice” or “seduce” and so Prince Csaba came to be depicted as stunningly handsome, and was made the hero of all the classic fairy tales.
          This figure ended up translated into the English language as Prince “Charming”. I always like to imagine Cinderella, as drawn by Walt Disney, going to the ball to meet Prince Charming at the palace of his father, ATTILA THE SCOURGE OF GOD.

    • Sherbet

      Psst, ze, could you correct “gentile” to “gentle”? “Do not go gentle into that good night.”

      • ze moo

        Fixed, I had my yarmulke on….

        • daisy

          LOL

  • Mick Roberts

    Wow, this story really got to me, even as a never-in. I loved all of Marc’s book, Blown for Good, but the best part is at the end when his father, after 15 years, enthusiastically welcomed him back into his life with open arms. It made me think what would happen if my son were to ever call me up after that long, only speaking rarely and seeing him even more rarely, and ask for help. Bernie’s reaction to getting his son back was exactly how I would imagine that happening.

    It just goes to show that no matter what, a parent’s love for their child will never cease to exist, with the apparent exception of folks still currently in the mind-controlling bubble of Scientology, but even for those folks, if they were truly honest (and not being controlled by the church), would internally feel the same way. And I’ve seen Bernie on the Underground Bunker a few times since I started posting here a few weeks ago so this story hits even closer to home for me.

    Physical assaults, coerced abortions, disconnection, taking people’s money (and maxed out credit) and even their inheritance…….and now this.

    A father who is desperate to see the daughter he raised and to hold her just one last time and tell her how much he loves her…….and this so-called “church” refuses. This has got to be the lowest of lows…….and just shows even more how truly evil this “religion” really is. Pardon my language, but here’s a big “FUCK YOU” to DM and CoS.

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      I’m w/you Mick. As a never-in, Mark’s book was the 2nd one I’d read and was very relatable to me. As a parent of college-aged young men & 2 toddlers, there’s NOTHING I wouldn’t do for my kids and for some so-called “church” to try to make me choose?!?! Well I understand the choice of language as there aren’t enough words in the English language to describe how mad this makes me!
      Hope she does the right thing & goes to her dad and brings him that new grand baby too! Bernie’s an incredible father and should be celebrated for all he’s done, not punished!

      • Mick Roberts

        “Bernie’s an incredible father and should be celebrated for all he’s done, not punished!”

        Precisely. I’ve never met Bernie personally, but knowing what he did to help his son and daughter-in-law without hesitation, even in light of what he went through from this so-called “church” (and I’m sure I only know a small portion of it), tells me all I need to know about the man.

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          Your last sentence says it PERFECTLY! I don’t know the family personally either, but yep, his character is very clear by his actions!

  • Phil McKraken

    “the Salvation Army … said … it wouldn’t change anything they do here, and true to their word they keep doing charity work.”

    What’s so special about that? Scientology won’t change anything either. They’ll keep NOT doing charity work. They’ll keep doing disconnection. They’ll keep doing fair game. They’ll keep impoverishing their customers.

  • Dylan

    Is this voting thing new with sea org? I was never made to vote when I was in. They did not allow me to register for the selective service and I never registered to vote. No one at my base voted, to my knowledge, and it was never a group thing. I really assumed that no one voted when you were in the sea org.

    • LA may be an exception as they can vote on cherch premises.

    • PickAnotherID

      They are violating Fedeal law if they don’t allow people to register with Selective Service. They may be able to request an exemption for religious reasons, but they are still legally required to register if between the ages of 18 and 25.

      • April

        Yep. There are no religious exemptions for registering with the selective service. You have to register with selective service regardless. The religious exemption might come into play if you’re drafted. https://www.sss.gov/Registration-Info/Who-Registration

        • PickAnotherID

          From the Selective Service web page:

          Men, who would be classified as CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTORS if they were drafted, must register with Selective Service. If a draft begins and they are called, they would have the opportunity to file a claim for exemption from military service based upon their religious or moral objection to war.

          • April

            Yes, that’s what I was saying. They have to register with selective service regardless of conscientious objector status.

      • Franklin Adams

        Beat me to it. Good way to ensure that SO members can’t get financial aid for school and are barred from any government employment at the same time.

        • PickAnotherID

          Or go directly to jail. From the Selective Service web site, note failure to register is a felony:

          Failing to register or comply with the Military Selective Service Act is a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 or a prison term of up to five years, or a combination of both. Also, a person who knowingly counsels, aids, or abets another to fail to comply with the Act is subject to the same penalties.

          • Franklin Adams

            Very true, I doubt its that common to prosecute anyone over it, but there’s no reason to take the chance when everyone else has to do it. Its just easier to comply with the law. Plus, you get barred from all kinds of stuff if you don’t register.

            Its not like they’ll ever realistically have a draft again when even Infantry has become a highly specialized and technical profession that pretty much requires someone to want to do it but the law’s the law.

    • April

      It’s actually against the law not to register with the selective service. There is no religious exemption, even if you’re a conscientious objector. It’s going to cause you problems if you want to get federal financial aid for college, a federal job, job training through the The Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act, etc.

      I wonder if this is yet another area the feds could go after the CO$ for:
      “Failing to register or comply with the Military Selective Service Act is a felony punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 or a prison term of up to five years, or a combination of both. Also, a person who knowingly counsels, aids, or abets another to fail to comply with the Act is subject to the same penalties.” https://www.sss.gov/Registration/Why-Register/Benefits-and-Penalties

      • Dylan

        Make it go right, that is the way.

        • April

          Yep, making you and other sea orgre males go straight to prison if the feds decided to prosecute you for not registering with the selective service.

          • Dylan

            Wow thanks for the warm feeling this morning.

            • April

              I’m sorry, Dylan. I wasn’t trying to be offensive to you. I’m pissed off at the CO$ for putting you and others in this position. (((hugs)))

              ETA: If you’re still age 26 or younger, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to go ahead and register: https://www.sss.gov/Home/Registration

    • Dave Reams

      No no no no no no no! Let sleeping clams lie!* Can you imagine all the trouble they could get into if Scientologists started entering the military? Can you imagine Monique Yingling suing the US Government to create posts for Scientology Clergy?

      * The lies Clams tell in their sleep (“Hmmmm! These Sea Org meals are delicious! And the Chateaux de Bite Cabernet complemented the lobster tail beautifully!”) are nothing to the ones they tell while awake (“I like RPF”, “I am a suppressive degraded being whose only hope for eternal salvation lies in COB’s hands – I am thankful for and honored to have my overts beaten off by COB”)

  • RedShoeLady

    Sending warm thoughts and love to Bernie, Marc and Claire. Stephanie please go see your dad or at least call him one day you will wake up and wish you did. Don’t miss this opportunity.

  • Trump winning by 3 votes (1% maybe?) when in the rest of LA he probably WON 1% of the vote kind of dead agent’s Linda’s pathetic attempt at whatever that was.

  • Science Doc

    The international headquarters of the Self Realization Fellowship is at Mt. Washington a few miles from the Hollywood Temple and presumably in a different voting precinct. I got curious about Self Realization as a cult like group with compounds scattered throughout SoCal, including near a friend’s house. Self Realization does board a number of staff and monks at Mt. Washington, but I don’t have the numbers. 15 years ago they off loaded a lot of staff there in the face of significant budgetary pressures, and some of these took to the Internet in frustration. Like Scientology, SRF has spent heavily on real estate as their fortunes have declined. They were into celebrities before Scientology was, with adherents including the main players on Gunsmoke, James Arnez, Fes Parker, and maybe others. My friend was remarking the other night that his sprawling 1960s house, on a heavily walled multi acre lot, appeared to be designed for multiple residents. I told him that the original owner, per my research, was a major donor to SRF, and apparently lodged adherents connected to a semi covert compound still operating a short walk away.

    • April

      I’d never heard of the Self Realization Fellowship until today so I did a quick google search. I found that they maintain a beautiful “meditation garden” in Encinitas overlooking the ocean that is freely available to the public, as well as much of the property that they own along the ocean. No wonder the CO$ hates them. They actually provide a public benefit.

      • Science Doc

        Maybe. They seem pretty secretive about a lot of things. They have ads in various places for meditation sessions but you have to phone them to find out where and get invited.

      • GoneToPlaid

        That’s where I know them from we’ve driven by it before. My dad says the surf spot on the beach below the compound is called “swamis” …. wonder if Hubturd surfed there as well.

  • Ann B Watson

    Tony,your post today has my emotions crashing around.Such a strong strong post.First I want to tell Bearnie that as a cancer patient I am with him all the way and beyond.Fighting this stealth bomber disease takes tremendous will and the valleys and the mountains one has to traverse they are so tough.But Bernie has the fire and he will keep on as I will.However to have to do all the medical that comes with cancer and to not be able to contact your daughter or hear from her for 12 years my heart is shattered.So Horrible and Cruel.May Light laser the Darkness and may she see what legacy she is actually leaving.One of love and forgiveness or one of hate and slam the door on ever seeing her Dad again.Spirit flys but the body does not,she will not get another chance.So Sad.I send all the Headleys many Hugs and All Love.Btw reading Jeff’s on Scientology voters I still cannot wrap my head around that.Way back when I was in Sea Org,my license,passport and even library card were all taken so I had no ID.Voting was not on the Sea Orgs radar back then.🌈🌌⭐️💛

    • Tony Ortega

      Ann, I’m sorry but this is driving me literally nuts. Would you please put a space between your sentences?

      • flyonthewall

        or two even. Two would be better, I don’t care what the new rules say

        • Sherbet

          I’m with you, fly. The nuns have spoken.

          • flyonthewall

            ave ave and all that

            • Sherbet

              Dominus go biscuits.

            • Robert Eckert

              You know that “hocus pocus” comes from medieval priests who didn’t know Latin but just repeated what their predecessor said? So to turn the Eucharist into the body of Christ, instead of saying “Hoc est corpus domini” they said “Hocus pocus, dominocus”

            • flyonthewall

              and then they all had a good laugh as the senior priest shot them a dirty look?

            • Sherbet

              I didn’t know that! Some would say it’s still all hocus pocus. Not I, but some. I’m married to one. He calls Mass “the magic show.”

            • flyonthewall

              the few times I took the kids to Mass I would always act excited when Communion time came and whisper to them that it was snack time

            • Sherbet

              Haha!

              When my son’s class was preparing for First Communion, the priest gave all the kids an unconsecrated host to eat, just so they’d know what to expect. He didn’t want anyone grimacing and saying p’toey! during the actual Communion rite.

            • Franklin Adams

              My wife didn’t get the doctrine of Transubstantiation, she’s an ex-Jehovah’s Witness so there isn’t much like that with them apparently. After I explained it to her, the next time she went to mass with me, I made her burst out laughing when I said “Time to go be a Zombie, be right back. Body, blood and brains!”

              At least it was the late mass and Father John was too drunk to care, however, Bishop Wenski (who’s the Archbishop of Miami now and was by the time I graduated) was there schmoozing with the County Commissioners and shot me a look I’ll never forget, basically if there was still an Inquisition, I’d be getting sent to them.

              And I’m positive he remembered who I was at my graduation because he said something along the lines of “By any chance, do you attend mass at St. James?” fortunately Sister Linda was rushing to get people off the Stage and I didn’t have time to say more than “Yes, I do”.

            • gtsix

              You’ll love hell. 😉

              (I’ll save you a seat at the buffet.)

            • Kestrel

              And I’ll save you a seat. I have an express ticket.

            • gtsix

              Excellent, I have limo pick up service (gay woman who has had abortion).

              I was barred from heaven at birth (born a bastard) so I just figured I should get a prime invitation to hell.

              That afterlife party is going to be bitching!

            • iampissed

              LMAO

            • Franklin Adams

              And say a prayer to Our Lady of Perpetual Responsibility

            • Sherbet

              Praying.

            • Bernie Headley

              Now THAT’S Funny!

      • Snuzey

        Haha! It could be worse, at least there are spaces between the words. Imagine that with no spaces at all…

      • Bernie Headley

        My mom was a grammar and punctuation enforcer and it has passed on to me. I still tend to put two spaces between sentences, even though it supposedly has been changed in the “official” rules. (I took typing class in the 60’s!)

        • Robert Eckert

          I still think it looks better if the spacing after a period is wider than after a comma. Two-spacists need to stick together!

        • ze moo

          I took typing in the 8th and 9th grades to get closer to the girls. It worked.

        • April

          I took a typing class in middle school, back in the early 1980’s and we still did the two spaces between sentences. When did the grammar rules officially change, I wonder.

        • The double spacing was strictly for typewriters back in the day. It’s how I learned at the tail end of the ’70s. I had it beaten out of me once I started typesetting at the dawn of desktop publishing when our agency switched to Macs.

      • Ann B Watson

        Oh no I need to put a space between my sentences?! Like that? I would not want to drive you nuts. Since I have bouts of already being there. 💛😭

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          It’s best that people don’t miss what you have to say Ann. It’s important. 😘

          • Ann B Watson

            Well OK I will play nice and behave. What you post is very important to me always. 💘

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Hope your sinuses are surviving our non-Winter. LOL XOXOX

            • Ann B Watson

              This winter has been missing. One day Freezing and the next almost hot. Luckily I have never had sinus trouble but those I know who have it,feel miserable this time of year.😘

        • gtsix
          • Ann B Watson

            I will Never stop Loving You gtsix. I could send you a letter in code and you would understand me. The four footed ones doggie and kitty have forever spaces in my heart. 💘💘💖💞Hugs!

            • gtsix

              ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ backatcha sistah. Always love.

        • Hi Ann,
          It’s always been a bit hard for me not to comment as a graphic designer and typesetter, but I’ve grown to think of your unusual typing style as your “accent.” I’ve learned to compensate and now I understand it like I understand Mrs. Tran at the Mekong Market. “Gahliss is garlic” I realized one day. It was like finding the rosetta stone. Changed our conversations ever since. Her life story is amazeballs. So is yours.
          xo
          Artoo

          • Ann B Watson

            Hugs,kisses and more of same. Artoo you know from 1980-2014 I totally stopped writing anything at all. Lived under,over and through the radar. Never in hubby hates FB and blogs in general,so when I first found out by bumping into Mike R’s blog,❤️ Him & Christie,I just got on the keyboard and took off. Except I never had an Internet etiquette lesson so I typed as I spoke. Thought that was the only way to do it. Having been foolish and not taken typing in high school. But see at my advanced age I am learning new things and so I am spacing and not pacing about it. Thank you Angel. ❤️💖

    • daisy

      Supreme compliment Ann , Tony must read your posts.

      • Ann B Watson

        Thank you daisy. Yes I am grateful and humbled by all the love and care at The Bunker. ❤️❤️ You.

  • Mick Roberts

    Another thought about Bernie’s story, it’s now abundantly clear that Scientology not only tries to destroy the lives of its former members who signed contracts, but they’re now targeting and trying to destroy a man’s life who was never in Scientology, but who took in his son (Marc) when he needed help and his wife (Claire) and took care of them so they could get back on their feet after they lost their “room and board” at Int.

    As a father of two children, I can’t imagine turning my son or daughter away if either of them EVER called me and needed help. This man did what any good, decent, rational human being would do…….and he’s being punished for that? Are you freaking kidding me?

    I promised myself I wouldn’t use profanity in this comment like the other one, but I’m not perfect and am just generally pissed off about this story, and just have to ask…….what kind of mentality does this organization possess where they think that this kind of horse-shit is actually “beneficial” in any way?

    This story needs to get out there for all the world to see (Share it on FB/Twitter, tell people about it, and Leah and Mike…..I think you have your next episode for Season 2). This is the kind of story that other never-ins like me need to hear if you want to keep exposing this organization……because this is the kind of shit that pisses us off!!!

    Ok, I’ll go work on my “TR’s” and try to calm the hell down now. I guess I should apologize for the rant (not really).

    • April

      “This man did what any good, decent, rational human being would do…”

      You’re forgetting that the term “rational” is a dirty word in the CO$, and “good” and “decent” have entirely different definitions. In the CO$, what is “good,” “decent,” and “rational” only includes behaviors and attitudes that benefit the CO$, not the individual.

      • Mick Roberts

        But now they’re harming people like Bernie who’ve never even been involved in the organization but just did what was right. THAT is what makes this so f’ed up to me. It’s already messed up enough that they would do crap like this to their former MEMBERS, but to hurt someone who was NEVER IN IT? They’re projecting their vile beliefs into the general public now.

        • April

          Oh, it is absolutely fucked up, and I agree with you. I was just pointing out that words like rational, good and decent have entirely different meanings when you’re in a cult. Disconnection only benefits the CO$, not the individuals involved.

          • Mick Roberts

            Completely agree with you. For whatever reason, I seem to keep wanting to try to understand the logic and reason behind this organization’s rationale. Why I keep trying to be logical and rational when thinking about a group of people that are illogical and irrational I’ll never know.

        • PickAnotherID

          Because anyone who’s not kissing his boots are all a bunch of SP’s as far as Miscavige is concerned. Whether they were ever in $cientology or not.

          • Mick Roberts

            I won’t ever kiss that little prick’s boots. But he can sure kiss my ass!

            • Chewkacca

              Be sure to get vaccinated against Rabies BEFORE getting kissed by Davey!
              WAAROO…….UGH!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Anger and righteous indignation are exactly the congruent emotional responses to have here if you’re a human with a conscience!

      Although there are no criminal laws prohibiting this sort of behavior, it is exactly the kind of evil policy that every one of us should be outraged by and do our best to make others aware, so that the financial support that sustains the cult can be choked off and, in time, completely deprive them of the means to continue to victimize other families in this way.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Winter Haiku

    Snow falling slowly
    High deep drifts accumulate
    Evidence mounts too

    Doe and fawn, skittish
    On the snowy mountain road.
    You too should fear, Dave

    $cientology: the only thing extraordinary about $cientologists is that they think they are extraordinary
    We’re gonna take one of these to your criminal scam, DM:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/20d301a922737230b2b48ea1cef470d12021af031e74d79c6b2450df454496ba.jpg

    • daisy

      So cool and one my friends might allow me to use.

  • Sherbet

    Bernie, hang on and heal. Not only does your family need you, we in the Bunker need your wit and intelligence. You don’t drop in often, but you always have something interesting — and usually funny — to say. Huge hugs from the Bunker.

    • Bernie Headley

      I actually am here every day, but only post when I have something to say that is worthwhile. Often someone has already said what I would say and I give it a like.

      • FredEX2

        ~❤️~

        • Sherbet

          Why, Fred…you’re lovely!

          • FredEX2

            Yep. Like my new avatar? 😆

            • Sherbet

              I’m not sure “like” is the proper verb. You’ll have to sit in the “no smoking” section of the Bunker now, though.

            • daisy

              Hey Sis . When Sherbet leaves I smoke everywhere . whisper – I often pee in the boy*s bathroom too.

            • Sherbet

              o_O

            • FredEX2

              Yaay! My sister daisy is so much like me! 😘 And both of us are like our younger sister NOLAGirl.

      • MarcabExpat

        Bernie, I have’t met you in person, but I’m going to hazard a guess that everything you say is worthwhile. We’re all here to listen.

        • Bernie Headley

          If you ask Marc, He would definitely tell you not everything I say is worthwhile! LOL

          • MarcabExpat

            We’ll straighten him out for ya, no worries 🙂 Be well!

      • Sherbet

        If I posted only when I had something worthwhile to say, I’d be nearly silent. I yammer all the time, and, so far, nobody has stopped me!

        We’re with you, Bernie. Cancer has touched every family, and you’ll find compassion and good vibes here. Hugs.

      • ReallyMGM

        I am so sorry you have had to endure the pain Scientology inflicts on families. Your worthwhile commentary? So many times I have laughed at your humorous comments. Like father, like son. :))
        You have “quadrillion” supporters in the Bunker rooting for you and your wish to come true. You are a great dad! {{{hugs}}}

      • daisy

        Oh I never have said anything worthwhile to add to the conversation , post anyway.

        • Sherbet

          Oh, c’mon. You lie.

          • daisy

            It sounds like I was fishing, I just meant pertinent . I like to think I am a good cheerleader. even if I haven*t done the splits since … well I never could do that. Thank you Sherbie your posts often make my day.

  • Sherbet

    Stephanie believes, really believes, she’s doing the right thing for the planet. Incredible. Brainwashing, that’s all it is.

  • Science Doc

    I’ve had to shuttle between houses lately, so I’ve driven past Narconon Warner Springs in Sunshine Summit on every trip. The car count continues to be a third or less what it was prior to last year’s crash. On one fortuitous pass I caught 13 people outside. 3 were in front of the main campus. 3 were in one of the vans pulling out of the JLB Ranch satellite campus and turning toward the main campus. 7 were sitting as a group in front of an outbuilding at JLB where I commonly see what appears to be clients. I would guess it houses the sauna or a courseroom. This happened mid morning, so I don’t think this was a meal time evolution. The apparent clients looked really young, in their 20s.

    • Sherbet

      Thirteen clients are 13 too many.

      • Science Doc

        Seven clients for sure. Some of the rest were clearly staff.

        • Sherbet

          Got it.

        • Meh. A lot of staff are just last quarter’s clients.

          • Science Doc

            I think their staff levels are way down. At some point you cut to the bone and are left with the lifers. But who knows. The recent graduates don’t get paid and may not have cars, so they could be hard to peg using cars as proxies.

  • Sherbet

    My Mom’s outlook was definitely of the “glass half empty” variety. When we were kids and being rambunctious and silly, she’d pronounce doom by saying, “After so much laughing, there will be so much crying.” Oh, Ma…

    Anyway, the Bunker was rollicking with laughter and jokes last night, and being a child of my mother, I had the nagging thought that, “Wow, this is a lot of fun, but I’ll bet Tony is going to drop a sad and disturbing story on us Friday morning.” And so he has. He has wiped that smirk right off our faces. Oh, Ma…

    • Franklin Adams

      Very sad, but also very important to show anyone who doubts just how brutal the supposedly non-existent practice of disconnection is.

      • Sherbet

        Yes, definitely. That’s what we’re in the Bunker for.

    • April

      “When we were kids and being rambunctious and silly…”

      Whenever myself and my siblings were behaving this way, my mom would always quip, “it’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt!”

      • Sherbet

        Moms, right? Then it takes years of therapy to correct the notion that kids aren’t supposed to be rambunctious and silly. Heck, it’s their job!

        • April

          To her credit, she usually only said it when we were doing some dangerous shit.
          She was also a clean freak, but I could play in the mud/get dirty all I wanted as a kid and she never got mad, just put me in the tub when I’d finished playing.

  • Tony Ortega

    Some notes about Nerdwriter added to the post.

    • Sherbet

      • Tony Ortega

        Fixed.

    • Sunny

      Whoah, where did that footage of LRH come from? Him shaking hands with the girl in the bathing suit and lighting up. Never seen it. Was it originally black and white?
      Inside the Scn bubble, there is only ONE very short clip of Hubbard that was filmed in color, which is about 5 seconds of him getting off or on a plane at an airport, and he is waving. The cameras were not for Hubbard, but for a prominent person that was also supposed to be at the airport that day. It is supposedly the only clip of LRH in color.

      • Tony Ortega

        That’s a short home movie from South Africa that showed up last year.

      • Ben Franklin

        Sunny, that clip came from this video footage. Start at around 6:00 mark

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmxIxohzjAA

        • MarcabExpat

          LOL interesting soundtrack choice 🙂

    • Phil McKraken

      I was so disappointed with The Master. Not only was it only superficially about Scientology and Hubbard, but the main character (Quell) was annoying, unlikable and unbearable to watch. Phoenix is a terrific actor, and his physical transformation in creating Quell is akin to Billy Bob Thornton’s performance in Slingblade. But, it was also just too obnoxious to sit through with any kind of enjoyment. Too bad Anderson didn’t execute on his original vision.

  • Bernie Headley

    Thank you, Tony, For getting this story out to a larger audience. I will never give up hope that Stephanie will wake up and make that call just like Marc did. It may take a miracle, but I believe in miracles.

    • Joe

      Me too, Bernie. I’m praying for you and your family and sending a lot of love your way from one son to one dad.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      “It may take a miracle, but I believe in miracles.”

      So do we, Bernie 🙂

      • Sherbet

        My personal mantra is “Expect a miracle.”

      • Bernie Headley

        I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for miracles. My medical resources are absolutely awesome, but even my doctors are surprised at my stubborn survival! As for Stephanie, she WILL call!

    • Newiga

      We believe in miracles too. We adore and admire Bernie Headley.

    • Mick Roberts

      We’re all pulling for you Bernie, and certainly hope that you’ll get that call from Stephanie soon. You’re a good man.

    • iampissed

      Wishing you all the best Bernie as Joe so well put it, from one son to one dad.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      You being here makes my day. We do love you Bernie. I’m not sure that I could do it justice in words but please know that we do. You are what we want every Dad to be. Sending you as much love as I can squeeze through the interwebz. ❤️😘❤️

    • daisy

      I know you though Marc*s books. You are an example of what a father should be. I am so glad that you have him, Claire and the kids. I will pray that Stephanie re-connects and your health. Thank you for setting such a fine example. The UTR. will see that they can count on the people who love them before they joined. You showed that there is something to come home to . That is a powerful message to send. Sending you hugs.

      • thetastic

        This. I love this thought. Every night a loved one like Bernie puts head to pillow still missing their loved one, take comfort that your kindness and love put out there gave someone else strength to reconnect that day. The next morning might be yours.

    • We’re right there with you Bernie. I also believe it will happen and that’s why we continue the fight. Let’s hope it happens soon and you’re reunited with your daughter. That would be a happy occasion.

    • LeeAnneClark

      Just wanted to pop in and say that I’m pulling for you, Bernie, on all fronts. Marc and Claire are so lucky to have you. I read Marc’s book when it was first released, and I remember standing up and shouting in joy when I read about how you were so there for him. Bravo to you! I share everyone’s hope that Stephanie will wake up and realize that nothing is more important in life than family, and the people we love. Somewhere inside her, that knowledge remains.

    • RedShoeLady

      Sir, I wish I had a dad like you. Take care <3

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Bernie, I am so glad you are here and will never give up. Praying for you and the best for your health.

  • Sunny

    As a Golden Age of Tech, Class VI Case Supervisor, Pro Sup, Pro Word Clearer, OT V, I’ll say that auditing IS hypnotic. And bad for you.
    If you don’t think so, you are probably still hypnotized.
    There.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      What makes the Hubbardite form of hypnosis so potent is that it is embedded in a philosophy of belief and an alt history of the universe that frames auditing as a means of waking up to the supposed Truth of your “real” nature and the promise of becoming free from millions of years of implantation that are the purported deep source of our shared hypnotic trance that prevent us each from appreciating who we really are as unborn/undying spiritual beings. The way that this more encompassing hypnotic trance maintenance program works is by framing the practical means of its induction as the exact opposite of what it actually is! It’s a textbook example of classic “1984” doublespeak in which the pursuit of “spiritual freedom” results in mental enslavement and “the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics” becomes whatever benefited Elron’s (and now lil davey’s) bottom line.

      Without a background in the many different ways that hypnosis works and the variety of means of its induction, the neophyte $cilon has no real basis for conceptually categorizing and organizing her auditing experiences except within the vast, intricate and all-encompassing cosmology that Elron provides as its alt science conceptual framework. Once you make the naive and simple-minded assumption that whatever insight or euphoria that you might have experienced in early bridge auditing validates the much wider and more fanciful claims Elron makes about our purported history of existence as spiritual beings, you’re already down the rabbit hole and have become an aspiring member of Elron’s new Master Race, which isn’t much different than Hitler’s was in it’s essential conceptualization.

      Waking up to the reality of your long slumber of entrancement can be a difficult, painful and confusing endeavor for anyone in whom “the Kool-Aid runs deep,” but nowhere near as painful, difficult and heart-rending as losing your family, all of your assets and control over every aspect of your life, which is the real end phenomena of a life spent as a duped and defrauded $cilon!

  • Mat Pesch

    I’m glad to hear that Stephanie has at least made it out of the Sea Org. A major step in the long road to recovery.

    • I agree Mat. I was kicked out in ’96 and consider that my pivot point getting out and it was all done on feelings for 14 years (thought stopping fully functioning). It wasn’t until 2010 by accident I read Amy’s book. She’ll follow her intuition and call maybe without even thinking ~ love is strong in relaying its message I’ve recently re-learned being a puppie owner. 🙂

  • noplefforatx@yahoo.com

    Does anyone know if Janet Weiland is still married to that thug Kurt Weiland? Kurt was, or still is, an OSA enforcer of a low and brutal type. Stacy Brooks told me once that Kurt had beaten up her husband, RV Young, while they were in the Sea Org. -Bob Peterson

  • Vault Digger

    RE: The Pushak article about “The Master”. Here is a link to Tony’s article about the elements that did not make it into the film:

    http://tonyortega.org/2012/10/01/secrets-of-the-master-elements-of-scientology-that-didnt-make-it-into-the-film/

  • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

    Tony Ortega,

    Your coverage of Janet Weiland’s chasing Tory through LAX is my faith restored in media!

    That article of yours warms my mental thankyou button like it’s stuck forever pressing thankyou!!!

    Tony you get “us” and your Tory article and specifically you printing Janet’s desperate OSA handler chasing of Tory in LAX is truly, my all time favorite journalist’s understanding of “us” moment.

    Thankyou again forever Tony!

    PS: And thankyou to all the LMT (Mark Bunker, all the people there, Jesse Prince, Stacy Brooks/Young) people and Robert Minton, for being that safe place in Clearwater so that Tory did NOT succumb to Janet’s OSA handler pleadings. So many people in this whole Scientology saga of ex members thawing mentally out of the Scientology nutty pressures imaginary world are to be thanked for all these decades of telling their stories, and person by person, little groups by groups, and for media who do GET this long term real thing relay race of helping people get OUT of the Scientology full craziness!

  • flyonthewall

    I think this is the original script for The Master. It’s different than the movie and does def have a lot more Scientology stuff going on

    http://screenplayexplorer.com/wp-content/scripts/the-master.pdf

  • Ben Franklin

    Dear Stephanie,

    A phone call or a visit with your father is not going to destroy the Church of Scientology. The Church of Scientology will still be there the next morning after you talk to your father. Unconditional love is loving your father for who he is, and not for what he does for you.

    No matter what decisions we make in life, family always remains the same. We can always change our religion, our clothes, our friend, our opinions, our politics, our residence, be we can never change our mother, our father, our brother, or our sister. Before you knew anything about L Ron Hubbard or religion, all you knew and had was your family who cared for you. Never let anything get between you and your family, be it religion, friends, money, fame, or whatever.

    • Rasha

      This.

    • iampissed

      Yes

  • Panopea Abrupta

    These Google Ads, Tony

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e5b5716710550402ce74fa1768d16dddcad8b20c276a50da4852a4cdac12c0ce.jpg

    Flavio, no self-respecting Italian should wear that suit.
    And the next time you go to Edinburgh, tell your wife to return that bloody kilt.
    She needs a sporran, like Kirstie had yesterday, if she must.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a5e63afe19c35294a67465d1829c55826798e3176e669948f19999985d40f6a6.jpg

    A 10 year old surfer got photobombed.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/73cfe6e18e6c66052bce26954d495a873f11431a04fa099d6c4af7561d9ef003.jpg

    • Ben Franklin

      “Flavio, no self-respecting Italian should wear that suit.”

      Let alone being the son of a well respected Italian suit tailor.

      • April

        I’m sure it makes his dad’s eye twitch. Like a baker seeing a poorly decorated cake.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        I’m not very fashion savvy, but as I see it the shirt is way too loose in the neck, shirt color doesn’t go with the color of the suit, and the suit is very ill fitting.

        • It probably fits the owner better.

          I wonder if he knows that he has a blog, or why they keep making him pose for pictures?

    • Ben Franklin

      I only realized a few days ago that Flavio is actually married to Jelena Mrkos (daughter of Hania Mrkos)

      For info about Hania Mrkos, see: http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/24/scientology-opens-a-new-ideal-org-this-weekend-nearly-a-year-after-its-last-one/

    • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

      He was wearing a two-tone vest in another photo, that’s the International Tailor Distress Signal.

  • Mick Roberts

    I’m new here and with Disqus as a whole, but is there a way to privately send a message to another user here (or really just to Tony?)

    • Observer

      Tony’s email is in the paragraph next to the pic of The Unbreakable Miss Lovely.

      • Mick Roberts

        Great. Thanks a ton Observer.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          It’s not possible to send PMs to anyone via Disqus but we’ve figured out our own way of making contact: you find a comment written by the person in question on an old Bunker blog post and reply to that comment. They will receive notification of your message either via email or the notification speech bubble at the top of all Disqus comment sections depending on their settings.

          That said, many people here will want to retain their anonymity and privacy because of the subject-matter and the fact OSA watches these comments. As Obs says, the easiest way to get in touch with Tony is to email him at tonyo94@gmail.com 🙂

          • Mick Roberts

            Thanks Andrea. Just had a quick question I wanted to ask.

  • joan nieman

    I am glad I popped back in to see the add on for The Master. This was quite interesting regarding the hypnotism that develops through the auditing. Love and strength to Bernie today. I am hoping that his daughter will pick up that phone.

  • Tony Ortega
    • VickiStubing

      Montreal

    • Phil McKraken

      Off topic, but that is one ugly-ass skyscraper. It could have been a city in China, where monstrously ugly buildings abound.

      • Ben Franklin

        Hey hey hey, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I have seen far much worse buildings. One man’s art is another man’s crap. Don’t judge.

      • stanrogers

        Trains go through the bottom part. That’s why it’s ugly from the waist down, so to speak.

        • Phil McKraken

          Yeah… No. My opinion is focused on the waist up. And as opinions go, mine are friggin’ awesome.

          • stanrogers

            Well, as the French say, everyone has the gout. I don’t know why they say that, since it seems obvious that not everyone does, in fact, have the gout, but every time matters of taste come up, that’s the first place they go.

      • Sh00pZ

        Bad Post-Modernism. Looks like it should be in Dallas.

    • Something is afoot.

      • Jimmy3

        Something is aboot.

        • Hoser.

          • Jimmy3

            Oh, you noticed. Well thank you kindly.

    • sizzle8

      It’s Montreal. Stephanie Lantaigne has an active Facebook page and so does her husband Robert. Her friends list has a couple of Scientologists that I recognize.

      • Bernie Headley

        Unfortunately, I am blocked from her Facebook page. Tony has sent me pics from it. Tony is the man!

        • Indeed, he is.

        • sizzle8

          She also has a Linkedin account https://ca.linkedin.com/in/stephanie-lanteigne-a0985832
          She must work from home since her employer, Scientologist owned business, ‘Focused Staffing’ http://www.focusedstaffing.com is in San Jose and Tampa.

          • Bernie Headley

            Thank you! I can get to her LinkedIn page. Just a baby step closer, but closer!

            • sizzle8

              Are you blocked from her husband’s FB page?

            • Bernie Headley

              No, but he hasn’t posted anything since August. I posted a PM to him quite some time ago and he ignored it.

            • sizzle8

              A couple of work around suggestions:
              get a second FB account,
              or,
              if you go to http://www.focusedstaffing.com/about-us/ look at the email addresses and I bet you could try a similiar pattern for Stephanie’s email address.
              You could also petition for a Chaplain/IJC approved cycle and see if that goes anywhere (very long shot).

    • Jgg2012
    • FredEX2

      Montreal I think. Looks like a bank building on McGill St just down from the University.

  • Another heartbreaking story of disconnection. They don’t seem to stop.

    Marc, I’m so sorry you’re going through this and I wish you and your dad strength and courage. I lost my sister to lung cancer a decade ago and her grace and courage totally changed my life. Being there at the end of a loved one’s life is filled with terrible beauty, may the love outweigh the loss.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      We love you, too, dear Artoo.

    • iampissed

      So well put!

  • Joe

    Much like seeing a TV show or reading an article about people living in poverty makes you very grateful for the luxuries and necessities you have, watching Leah’s show really makes me grateful for the family I have. I think I’ve really just taken a moment to appreciate the relationship I have with them and tell them I love them.

  • aquaclara

    Wishing Bernie, Marc and Claire much luck in seeing their family members return soon. Bernie, you’ve been such a terrific contributor here, and your welcome back story Marc described in Blown For Good is something I hope every “still in” member gets to experience themselves.

    Sending prayers of hope for both your health and for yet one more happy reunion.

  • Scientology continues in its effort to prove it is a destructive cult. It seems to have declared wholesale carnage on families. It is strange to see that in trying to hold itself together it breaks families apart. In the end this will be a big factor in its downfall.

    • aquaclara

      Phil, just wanted to say congratulations on the newest billboard. The message IS getting out. Hope you get visits and phone calls soon, too.

      • Thank you aquaclara. We won’t stop until Scientology’s disconnection practice ends.

    • Techie

      Scientology, like high-carbon steel. Very hard but not too tough. Brittle. It can come down on you like a brick but the slightest breeze wafts it away.There is good reason to avoid unnecessary contact with psychopaths, sociopaths and those with narcissistic personality disorder. Hubbard twisted this into the doctrine of the “suppressive person”. But he added the odd bit that anyone who does not like Scientology must be “suppressive”. Everybody that thinks the book Dianetics is poor prose and bad “science” is now a psychopath? Only a true narcissist would say that. The whole idea is turned on its head. So instead of a simple logical rule for happy living, “avoid psychopaths”, it becomes more like “avoid everybody who disagrees with me”. Or even “avoid everybody who even talks to anyone who acts like they might like someone who disagrees with me”. If Scientology is really as fragile as that it deserves to fade away. It is not strong enough to take a place in honest society. According to Hubbard, Scientology works every time as long as you are doing it right. Unless there is an unbeliever in the room. Whenever it doesn’t work, instead of finding out why they go on a witch hunt for “suppressive persons”. Since it inherently does not work, as time goes on there are more and more witch hunts. Today there are more witches than true believers. They think have to choose between their families and their impossible dreams. Let them give up their “cleared planet” fantasy and let the children go.

      • Kestrel

        A séance also works every time unless there is an unbeliever in the room.

        • Techie

          Yeah, Kestrel, same idea. The more you look at Hubbard’s ideas the more Victorian parlors you find. Levitating tables, communicating with the dead, all of Madame Blavatsky’s old tricks with some science fiction mixed in. At least he wasn’t into animal sacrifice.

          • Kestrel

            Except meat sacks are animals. Only homo novis rises above it.

          • Thetans are very close to spirits, and the kind of auditing that examines ‘past lives’ bears more than a passing resemblance to ‘channelling’.

        • I have been dismissed from two ‘psychic readings’ for saying things like “don’t ask me, you’re the psychic” when they start playing 20 questions.

          Apparently the spirits can’t confront and shatter sceptics any better than Scientologist can handle SPs.

          • thetastic

            Hee!

            • The ‘cold reading’ techniques are blatantly obvious, and not playing along does bring the whole process to a grinding halt.

              Thing is, the clients at these events are self-selected – they are almost all people who ‘want to believe’. They can be quite hostile towards anyone who behaves in a way that might raise doubts, however gently this is done. In fact, any such effort seems to drive them deeper into this will to believe and makes matters worse.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        As cults enter their end days they very often become ever more insular and controlling, and $cn seems to be following that same pattern exactly. Lil davey slipped down the tone scale from “controlling bodies” to “hiding from bodies” and is now a virtual recluse in his own gilded “Xenu’s prison”. His small army of on-site lackeys, fluffers and assorted other evil minions are even more trapped and isolated than he is at the high-security Int base in not-Hemet.

        These are the folks who are most at risk and least able (mentally and physically) to get out or to sound the alarm if and when things go even more sideways and the place slides even further into madness and evil. Could the fool’s Gold Base become Jonestown 2? I doubt it, but it could – and probably will – get much worse for all who remain in the cult as it enters it end days.

        • Techie

          Marc Headley has said publicly that the Int Base could be a Waco. I am not so sure. There are weapons stores but nothing like what the Branch Davidians had. And Dave likes his creature comforts too much to take to any kind of siege. Probably if the FBI raid shows up they will be escorted by fake-friendly folks wherever they want to go and will talk to a lot of pretend-puzzled staff who frankly don’t know why anyone would think they are prisoners of any kind. If anybody does want to really find out what is going on in there, have them go to the offices on the first floor of Building 36, the “Manufacturing Building” close to the main gate. In the filing cabinets there they will find all the passports. Locked up. Target One. Target Two is the ground floor offices that belong to Security. They will probably find someone “accidentally” shredding mounds of records that tell the status of every staff member. The “Ethics Files”. A small unit should also be sent to the Garage, where the huge industrial shredder is located, to seize all the incriminating records before they get torn to unreadable tiny bits.

          • Wow! I’d like to see that happen.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            Sounds like a very good raid plan to me!

            $cn is currently experiencing Cult Intensive Collapse Syndrome (CICS), which is an irreversible phenomena whose symptoms only become more intense and debilitating as it progresses. Since there is no known cure, it’s only a question of how long the cult’s End Days will last, which is ultimately unpredictable as there are just so many causally contributing factors involved.

            And since life for semi-enslaved $ea Orgy staff is only going to get progressively worse, you really don’t want to be among the last $cilon rats to get off the sinking ship of $cn. And although lil davey is not likely to go full-on Jim Jones on us, the Int base compound could very easily become more prison-like and isolated, making escape harder and harder as time goes on.

      • Well said.

      • Mac

        Also never ever ever disregard that little voice in your head. The way you use it is, listen, acknowledge what it’s saying to you, file it to the side of your brain while you’re with someone you don’t fully trust, and never ever ever divulge the contents of that file to anyone. It’s for you and you alone. And if something weird tweaks that file to become active twice–stand up and leave where you’re at making sure you can’t be followed or found by said person you’re not trusting. I’ve been like this since I’m 6! I know I’m a bit unusual but that’s the way it is.

    • Elegant Mess

      Phil, congrats to you & Willie on funding the new billboard! Be sure to keep us posted on when/if you will be doing another unveiling. I missed the last one due to work, but wouldn’t miss this one for the world!

  • GregGalaxy

    Wishing Bernie good health and wellbeing, and healing.

    Leah Remini Explains How Trump Is Basically a Scientologist With His Hostility Towards the Media

    “From the very beginning of the teachings in Scientology you were taught that news is a bad place, that the news lies.”

    By Alexandra Rosenmann / AlterNet January 26, 2017 http://www.alternet.org/belief/leah-remini-explains-why-president-trump-scientologist-based-his-bizarre-relationship-media
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/07d88b1d9f714d8b23b3eb1b43d6a4b562f2f92a4f5f9f26207a45e5f8261565.png

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    So many Scientologists have NOT found what they were searching for and certainly NOT what they were promised. They then become trapped in what has more and more become a destructive cult.
    Micracles don’t occur because of Scientology, but in spite of Scientology.

    I hope that Stephanie wakes up and calls her father Bernie very soon.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKaXY4IdZ40

    • Sherbet

      OT: Mariah Carey couldn’t carry Whitney Houston’s shoes. Just a stunning voice and face. What a waste.

  • Newiga

    You know, when I read this: “Why, Scientology, are you keeping this father and daughter apart?” I kept repeating the sentence aloud louder and louder (Think Ross Geller style: YOU ATE MY SANDWICH).

    Scientology: 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕

  • iampissed

    It seems to me that if DM can’t have a Dad then no one can.

    • Mick Roberts

      Or a son/daughter for that matter

    • Observer

      I think he just doesn’t find family necessary. All they do is get in his way.

      • Jimmy3

        Unless they are between him and the big people cupboards. Then they are very useful.

      • Joe

        I completely agree. I think he seems family members as liabilities or distractions. I mean we’re talking about a guy who was going to let his own father die and has exiled his own wife for over 10 years.

  • Sh00pZ
  • Jimmy3

    Seems like even Scientology wants to distant itself from Trump. Way to go.

  • Vaquera

    Which merchant of chaos should I listen to on tomorrow’s 6 hour road trip? Biases welcome. 🙂
    (I’ve already heard Troublemaker and Beyond Belief)

    • Jimmy3

      The Unbreakable Messiah: A Fair Piece of Blue Game For Good
      Edited to fix*

      • Sherbet

        Narrated by lrh.

      • Vaquera

        ^^^

      • iampissed

        Show off

      • Vaquera

        A to Xenu: Going Inside Scientology’s Ruthless Church of Fear and Clear

    • iampissed

      How about Miss Lovely.
      ETA…Blown for Good would also be great but I don’t know if it’s in audio format.

      • UhLasare

        I wish it were! I have an audible credit that I’d love to spend on that book!

      • Bernie Headley

        Unfortunately, Marc has been very busy with real life and just hasn’t had time to make the audible version. Maybe I should suggest I could do it.

        • SarahDB

          He has a great voice and although his humor came through in the book, it would be hilarious on audio. I vote for an audible version!

        • Vaquera

          Yes, please.

        • iampissed

          Oh that would be classic…and so wonderful. You really should see if it can be done.

    • SarahDB

      Fair Game is riveting me in the car these days. Jenna’s book is on audible too.

  • nottrue

    I hope when Bernie gets his new scans the lesions are GONE..It can happen . It has happened. And I hope it will happen

    • Bernie Headley

      The last MRI showed the lesions reduced. Most recent treatments were very targeted and hopefully have rendered them inactive. Time will tell.

      • MissCandle

        You are a good man. Hope you will be at HowdyCon 2.0.
        Sending you good vibes from across the miles . . .

        • Bernie Headley

          You bet I’ll be attending!

  • davegrille

    The Disconnection policy gets more horrible on each recount.

  • nottrue

    Phil Driving with Call Me sign .. … https://youtu.be/MfvbQyIe6uU …. … https://youtu.be/iCgZi5Xt5RE

    • Notice how the Sea Org girl covers her eyes when she sees our “To my loved one in Scientology,,, Call Me” sign on the car. Confront and shatter at its best.

      • Missionary Kid

        Call me = Kryptonite to the sea org.

    • When driving around Scientology’s Big Blue complex with our “To my loved one in Scientology,, Call Me” sign on our car these Scientologists got pretty rude, arrogant and dismissive of families broken up by Scientology.

      • UhLasare

        It’s not a laughing matter. I’m sorry. But so glad you spoke up about it. Maybe it will be a seed that will grow in their minds.

      • nottrue

        Love the way you shut down those laughing idiots

      • GrangerFX

        Laugh, cry, ignore … at least they saw the sign. Mission accomplished.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Apart from the arrogant Tommy Davis clones at the end (WHO MADE MY BLOOD BOIL!!! GAH!) there were so many Scientologists who turned to look as you drove past. How prominent is the sign on your car, Phil? It’s clearly eye-catching.

      • Science Doc

        Well, they confronted and shattered you.

      • The car sign, as we discussed, is very effective.
        And the bigger the better.
        I’ll bet you reach more of them with it/them than the billboard.

    • Notice how juvenile they appear… They almost giggles

  • Panopea Abrupta
    • Jimmy3

      Thought you said trees. Was momentarily worried these fine looking men would be cut down.

    • Mark Foster

      Re 4 foot 13:
      Deez nuts or dry raisins? Full story at 11 on Fox News…
      Intestinal Fortitude or Anal Art?
      Details at Breitbart.

      Alternative Acts and Crashing Statistics:
      The Ballad of The Ecclesiastical Eunuch

      Full Underoos and Empty Macallans Bottles,
      A Hollywood Boulevard Soliloquy, in 3 Acts:
      Pimp, Poop, and Pass Out

      Space Cooties and Invader Force Booties
      Vamping on a Venutian Implant Theme
      by The Oaninist Oaty Orchestra and Dame Madsavage

      On an apple box he stands, proudly upright
      As his pompadour reaches a new,sky-high height

      Do not adjust your radio. We have temporarily assumed command of the airwaves in order to call out and expose that interstellar cult wanker, Dastardly Dave. We bring the truth, documented and uncut,
      to unshackle minds and kick cult butt.

      okay, carry on…

  • UhLasare

    Called my mom today. Wanted a verbal hug from her after reading today’s article. Wish we weren’t thousands of miles apart. Praying these Scientologists reconnect with their parents, sooner rather than later. As a parent myself, it’s so heartbreaking.

  • flyonthewall

    Weiland’s reaction to the LATimes story made me think about a quote by Hubbard that said the only place Scientology should appear in the newspaper was in the religion or social section, something to that effect. They don’t want to appear anywhere in the paper except in a safe non-controversial space. This prob explains Weiland’s annoyance at the Times. Haven’t found it yet but I did run across this funny quote by Hubbard showing how butthurt he was over the tomato story. From HCO PL 14Aug1963

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a323e83b2ab52288a1a31e79d6ff3e2418a22e2f0c9924f6dfa2912a443badfd.png

    • Jimmy3

      I like when you do research and cite your work, Dr. Fly.

      • flyonthewall

        thank you. Working on getting my Bunker tenure

        • Jimmy3

          I’ll make sure the PTS Girl scandal doesn’t come up in your annual review. I got you

          • flyonthewall

            *sigh* She was a consenting JPEG! You are a good friend

    • Those cabbages are a passionate bunch. Ah yes, thus varietal epithet capitata.

      • gtsix

        But beware the shredded fermented variety It’s somewhat sour.

    • Observer

      Apparently his counting ability matched his writing talent.

    • Rasha

      8) Can’t cheese; 9) Invalidated toner box; 10) Vast returns in penguin cabbage – love; 14) Velum transit. Cranberry reveal in blue; 15) My stamps. It did went, however, and the University of Phoenix not in the result.

      HCO PLBBPPBRTT

      • flyonthewall

        fascinating!

        • Rasha

          That will be $14,502.47. 401(k), or second mortgage, please?

          • flyonthewall

            oo..kkaay, just let me get my..HEY WHAT’S THAT OVER THERE!!?? *runs away*

            • Rasha

              *sends letter*
              “Hello Mr. Fly.
              We’ve noticed that you’ve moved to a different state, and changed your phone number. Do you find that having Pizza Rolls answers your problems? You owe us $14,502.47 and hey – please stop ignoring our calls.”

    • kemist

      He missed (3) bruschetta and (4) silent farts.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      In that last sentence he admits it was all just an act.

      • jayla197145

        Johnny, I need to ask you something.

  • Sars Goodwin

    So I noticed that Scientology is posting stuff about “human rights” and trafficking, like it is a concern of theirs. Is that an attempt to muddle the search results for entries like “Scientology human trafficking”? Because people, like Leah Remini I believe, have suggested searching terms like that.

    • UhLasare

      It’s been going on for a long time – they use their front groups to legitimize themselves, and also so they can tell their big donors (“whales”) that they’re making a difference in the world – “Let’s make a bigger difference! Go up in status today! (Give us more money)”

  • MarcabExpat

    It’s just a crime that PSH, during his lifetime, was not cast as Hubbard himself in the major motion picture Bare Faced Messiah. That would have been a hurricane of Leah proportions.

  • pluvo

    Markthehungarian, about how many young people (%) are speaking English in Hungary, so that they could read the English sites about Scientology?

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    In Stephanie’s letter to Bernie – “Nothing has changed in our relationship, except for you chose to befriend someone…”

    A father chooses to “befriend” his son? What kind of jacked up LRH crap is that? Outside the CO$, a parent is supposed to unconditionally love their children. It is what good human beings do. And it’s something that LRH never did. What a horrible way to live, modeling your life on Hubbard. Choosing the insane rantings and destructive delusions of a discredited madman over your own father, is something I will never understand. There are so many people who would love to have been blessed with a father like Bernie. I suggest that you choose to wake up and visit him before its too late! SMH

    • Harpoona Frittata

      That kind of strange and tortured writing really makes it sound as if the letter was either heavily edited or written by someone else entirely. Parents don’t choose to befriend their own children, as if they were some sort of stranger that they just encountered; and sisters who can’t even bring themselves to say, “my brother” are not only disconnected from family, but disassociated from self as well.

      The continuing farce being put on by the cherch to portray coerced disconnection – under threat of being deprived of what is synonymous with Eternal Salvation for a $cilon – is just so easy to see through that it undoubtedly acts to hurt the cherch’s public image even more. It seems to me that lil davey has pretty much given up on trying to convince the public that $cn is “the coolest religion on earth” and is now focused on not-so subtly threatening its still-in members with what could happen to them too if they can’t keep their own non-$cn family members out of the media spotlight and from consorting with SPs.

      Since putting folks into this kind of a Sophie’s Choice situation can’t be good for morale, and it is also devastating for the cherch’s public image, about the only reason that I can see for doing it is to remind still-in folks of the power and control that lil davey has over them. But beyond that instrumental purpose, it also serves as a means for him to exact revenge by proxy on those who are no longer under his control. By making loved ones betray and humiliate themselves on command, lil davey derives the same kind of sadistic pleasure that he gains from imprisoning staff in The Hole and requiring them to degrade and abuse each other for his amusement.

      The very clear message there is, just because you’re beyond my reach, that doesn’t mean that I can’t cause you pain and distress by making your still-in family members turn on you, as if you never mattered to them to begin with. That’s evil incarnate to me. I just marvel at the fact that for those in whom the Kool-Aid runs deep, the obviousness of that fact seems to just completely escape them!

  • A megye is a county. Pretty much functions the same way as a county in the US does, too, except that there are cities with county status while part of the county, too, and the capital is a city is not part of the surrounding county.

    I always assumed Duncan Shelley was a pen name. I read the first of his novels and it was about as enjoyable as reading an 18th century translation of the Illyad before coffee.

  • Glen

    If you go back to yesterday’s post and sort by newest, Renata Lugli has added some interesting comments within the last hour re: her son and $ci.

    Sorry, I don’t know how to create a link to it right here.

  • Chee Chalker

    Nerdwroter video very good. When it was done, other videos pop up for one to watch, usually along same subject line
    The recent 20/20 episode popped up as an option. It has been viewed almost 100 MILLION times!
    Now that is global dissemination! I wonder if Dave will give Leah and Mike super duper medals of
    Infinity….

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Literally one hundred million views, Chee? That’s astonishing!

      • Chee Chalker

        Ok I was wrong! That is the name
        Of the channel. Kind of a funny name. Real views (on YouTube)
        More like 11,000.
        Not as good. But one view at a time!

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Ooh, those cheeky monkeys! 🙂

    • April

      If you’re looking at the one I’m looking at, that’s the name of the channel (“98,864,345 Views”), but the actual views is 11,473. My best guess-timate is 20k+ total views on various youtube channels. Of course, this number doesn’t include all the people who watched it on tv or on the abc.com website.

      • Chee Chalker

        Oh that makes more sense! I thought that sounded like an extraordinary amount of views.
        Let’s hope it gets to that someday

        From 984’s lips to Xenu’s ears!

  • Hollywoowoo News: SuMP in turnaround, producing rebuttal-video to The Master? Unlikely to be the subtlest of productions, I’d guess… (restim Obscene Dog Incident on the whole track while you refresh): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/31abbdd8be60eb0fc5a62bf451a12cb858d4d63dd9b5e610a34c5a41336748f5.jpg

    • Jimmy3

      what just happened

    • I suspect only the Brits will get the “Presents a,,,,” name.

      • It also has Hugh Jampton as a silent-partner executive producer 😉

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    A German film company (with Markus Thöß) has made a documentary called “The City of Scientologists – Clearwater, controlled by the sect” which includes interviews with Tom Smith, attorney Luke Lirot and our very own Dee Findlay. Dee appears at the 15 minute mark looking just as adorable as she always does. They all make some great points.

    http://www.ardmediathek.de/tv/WDR-Weltweit/Die-Stadt-der-Scientologen-Clearwater-/WDR-Fernsehen/Video?bcastId=7989132&documentId=40134706

    • flyonthewall

      10-12yr old boy in cadet org uniform at 4:45 mark. smh

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        🙁

  • Science Doc
    • Rasha

      …and it tasted……….

      • Science Doc

        Fantastic. Cayanne pepper gave it a nice kick. Bechamel sauce with four cheeses whisked in.

        • Rasha

          Very nice. Looks delightful!

        • Kestrel

          Was one of the cheeses Velveeta?

          • daisy

            goof

            • Kestrel

              But, but, I like Velveeta.

    • beauty for ashes

      Even if you are a nerdy scientist, people should always consider the quality of your cooking before building a wall or sphere to keep you out. MMMMmm béchamel. 🙂

  • Richard

    Stephanie, in her letter, says “Marc should take responsibility for whatever happened and handle that…”

    This word “Responsibility” comes in to just about every judgement that a Scientologist makes against someone who, in some way, has critcized Scientology.

    Why is this word “Responsibility” so important in Scientology?

    Because it is one of the words that form the upper triangle.

    There are two triangles in Scientology. The lower ARC triangle stands for Affinity, Reality and Communication. The upper KRC triangle stands for Knowledge, Responsibility and Control.
    If someone raises one corner of the triangle, the other two will also rise.

    So, Stephanie says that Marc should take responsibility.

    Well, that’s actually what he did.

    Marc raised the Knowledge angle of the triangle, by realizing that there was something not right with Scientology, hence he took control and responsibility and as a result, he got the hell out of Gold Base.

    The only difference between someone who is convinced by Scientology and someone who is having doubts is that the person convinced would always look towards Ron Hubbard for the “Knowledge” angle of the triangle and hence “Responsibility” to them would mean only one thing, that is, make Hubbard, and hence Scientology, right. Someone on the other hand who is having doubts would look elsewhere for “Knowledge” and then take their “Responsibility” differently.

    All Marc did was to question Scientology and then he took responsibility for his actions.

    If only Stephanie could, herself, have the knowledge what her brother actually did, she would most likely do the same thing.

    Here’s hoping.

    • kemist

      I have always found “responsibility” a weird concept in Scientology.

      Somehow, “responsibility” always seems to lie with those who have the least power, and therefore the least impact on what is going on.

      That’s ass backwards. Responsibility should be commensurate to your power. The more power you have, the more responsible (and liable) you should be.

      • April

        Well, if/when the feds swoop in, that’s how it will go…they’ll be after the one with the most power.

        Wee Davey, you’d better be in the process of setting up some minions to take the fall.
        Dear OSA…you’re a minion. Best of luck to ya when the feds show up!

        • Kestrel

          I like how you think.

    • Bernie Headley

      The problem with the triangles is that the knowledge and communication parts are only if you get them from CoS. That pretty much slants the perspective. Real knowledge and communication aren’t allowed as it would really screw things up!

    • pluvo

      “take responsibility and …” is Scio code for “has overts/withholds” and crimes, and evil purposes. The whole phrasing is also OSA-speak.

    • Noesis

      In order for the ARC triangle to have any actual value in a dispute, all the parties to that dispute need to be operating in an honest manner with good faith efforts to create a fair resolution. What has been shown to be true, thousands of times, is that the management culture of Scientology is inherently dishonest, especially as the term would apply to the organization’s senior leadership.

      The goal of a “resolution” to an “ARC break” which involves senior Scientology leadership is for the other party to completely subordinate their interests to the interests of the leadership…in all cases…trivial or significant.

      It is not possible to create a fair resolution to an ARC break when the Scientology leadership operates in a dishonest and self-serving manner. As that is the ONLY manner in which Scientology leadership has ever operated, “ARC resolution” is just one more piece of the Scientology hoax.

      There are many problems with Hubbard’s simplistic ARC triangle concept, not the least of which is that the concept is used as part of a bad faith effort by Scientology leadership to manipulate the good intentions of those lower on the Org Board so that ultimately they wind up following “command intention.”

      Did I mention that Scientology is a hoax?

      • Kestrel

        Well said.

    • Kestrel

      Thank you for your explanation.

  • TravisDelgado

    Re: Hungary- There was an event sometime in the early 2000’s where Miscaviage said that Hungary would be the first “Clear Country” in the world. Oops. That hasn’t quite worked out now, has it?

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner
    • Jimmy3

      Oh oh oh
      That’s so lovely, no one will even care that it was ghost-written by a psychotic Farsecian trying to gain access to a wider pharmaceutical sample market.

      • Science Doc

        Farsec was too far, so most of the Psychs moved to Nearsec several trillion years ago.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Was that before or after buttsec? 🙂

        • Jimmy3

          I can trace my ancestry back to Farsec directly, but I don’t know or trust these Nearsecians. I fully support a planetary wall.

          • kemist

            I doubt the Nearsecians will accept to pay for it.

          • The Marcabians will pay for it.

          • Kestrel

            And here I was thinking you were from Arslycus.

            • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

              That was documented along with the invasion of the Outer Solar System in “Up Uranus!”

          • Science Doc

            In three dimensions that would be a planetary sphere or shell.

            • Jimmy3

              That was kinda the point, but whatever keeps nerdy scientist docters like you out will work.
              ETA: 1<3

    • April

      What a great idea!

      Stupid me clicked on the link in the image and then wondered why it didn’t take me to their website. D’oh!

    • Jimmy3

      Joking aside tho, that seems like an idea that could have an impact. For every one of these coerced, underhanded smear sites, set up a positive one in response. Let Aint Base see how they look side by side.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Beautiful website Lois!

  • J. Swift

    Stephanie’s Disconnection letter to her own father analyzed:

    “Nothing has changed in our relationship…” This is an outright lie. If “Nothing has changed in our relationship” then there would be no need to write a Disconnection letter. Everything has changed in the relationship with the writing of a Disconnection letter.

    “except for you chose to befriend someone…” Seriously Stephanie? Marc is your father’s son. Marc is your own brother. Marc is not “someone.” Calling a family member “someone” is the dehumanization and depersonalization inherent in Disconnection. This dehumanization and depersonalization of a family member is one reason why Scientology is viewed as a Cult and Disconnection is viewed as a sadistic Cultic practice. Scientologists don’t want to own up to Disconnection so they lie about it.

    “who is actively attacking what I do and love…” This is the narcissistic insanity and need for revenge that Founder L. Ron Hubbard wove in Scientology’s DNA: It’s all about me. If you dare to criticize Scientology then I will destroy you and your family. I will destroy your life and make every attempt to ruin you utterly. I will try to destroy your income and engage in character assassination against you. I will lie about you and spy on you. Scientology’s scorched earth policy of Fair Game is psycho-terrorism. One message that needs to be widely repeated: The Church of Scientology is not a religion; it is a psycho-terrorist Cult rooted in extreme greed, lies, manipulation, deception, and the use of slave labor.

    “to get back at some personal vendetta…” Scientology always attempts to invalidate and trivialize the substance of criticisms directed against it. Those who expose Scientology’s profound and extreme human rights abuses are exposing evil. Scientology tries to deflect and trivialize. However, this is a wrong action as it intensifies, amplifies, and validates what Marc Headley, Leah Remini, and so many other people are saying and documenting. Furthermore, OSA’s attempt to trivialize the damaging exposures of its psycho-terrorism only reinforces the fact that Scientology lies about everything and its denials are nothing more than further lies. Scientology piles lie upon lie. In doing so, Scientology is only digging its own grave deeper and deeper.

    “insted (sic) of being logical and resolving one’s own problems and being responsible for them…” It is logical, responsible, and an act of survival to escape from the nightmare hell of Scientology and expose its depravity and cruelty. It is illogical to for Scientology to destroy people and families in retaliation. Again, this one reason why Scientology is viewed as a psycho-terrorist Cult.

    “The fact of the matter is that what Marc has done in the past three years has only acted to pull the family more apart than ever instead of bringing it together….Marc should take responsibility for whatever happened and handle that and stop blaming everyone for this…” What Marc and Claire did was the morally correct and brave thing to do. What Scientology and Stephanie did with Disconnection is to engage in the psycho-terrorism of Disconnection and then lie about it.

    Disconnection is part of the psycho-terrorist politics of Fair Game conducted by the Scientology Cult as a form of revenge against those who speak out against Scientology.

    • Observer

      I just want to know how someone can “get back at some personal vendetta.” That’s like saying “I’m going to get back at the the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.” Huh?

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I love this post, J. Swift.

      Somehow this is what gets me. “The fact of the matter is that what Marc has done in the past three years has only acted to pull the family more apart than ever instead of bringing it together….Marc should take responsibility for whatever happened and handle that and stop blaming everyone for this…”

      For God’s sake, Marc and Claire escaped and had three adorable babies! And he reunited with his father. And he takes full responsibility for his family.

    • Bernie Headley

      Now that Stephanie has a child of her own, she should be made aware that is was Marc and Claire suing CoS that made that possible. Instead of abortion, they now give a few hundred dollars to the offending SO member and say adios.
      And for the pulling the family apart more than ever, Marc, Claire and I have better relationships with Trudy’s family than Trudy and Stephanie.
      Of course, I’m pretty sure Stephanie did not write the letter, but may very well believe what it is saying.

      • OOkpik

        Now that Stephanie has a child of her own, she may come to understand the bond a parent has for his or her child. Daddy’s girl will wake up yet. <3

    • OOkpik

      Tech help needed.
      How do I up-vote each and every paragraph?

      • beauty for ashes

        Oh Ookie now you’re just being adorable.** kisses white fluffy forehead***

        • OOkpik

          Have you ever heard a Snowy Owl purrrrr? <3

          • beauty for ashes

            Awww? they purr and coo????

    • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

      I wish we had a video of the sit down conversation the OSA handler had with Stephanie to get her to make sure her letter said what it said above. It’s a whole hour long process, back and forth, having Stephanie cover all the points she has to cover, all sidechecked and helpful editing coaching to make her letter cover all the approved points OSA handler wants the letter to say.

      The OSA handler coaching videos need to be leaked.

      OSA videos almost every legal doc signing, and keeps all those videos somewhere in their files.

      I remember two or three videos I was made to do. It’s all obliquely covered by Hubbard policies, and just so irreligious.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      So very well said!

      In addition to being used as lil davey’s very own favorite instrument of sadistic revenge, Disconnection is also regularly used as direct leverage or implied threat to extort and wheedle cash out of families who have loved ones that have been lost to the cult.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • MadisonAgain

      I almost fell for this! Nice job!

      • daisy

        Hi Maddie !

        • MadisonAgain

          Hi, Daisy! How are things? 😘

          • daisy

            Good , hate winter , but who doesn*t except those fools on skates and skis. Something is very wrong with those people. Hope it isn*t playing havoc on your MS.

            • MadisonAgain

              I use to be one of the skiing fools. I hope you are staying warm. *passes a cup of hot chocolate laces with lots of Schnapps your way!*

            • daisy

              That is my favorite flavour of chocolate !

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Killing me here, doc!

      Lyintology is good for one thing and one thing only: teaching you how to lie to yourself, so that you can more effectively lie to others!

      And I’d bet that most of those “wog wannabee posers” have also lied about trying to recruit some friend or family member into the cult, just to keep the dissem. sec’s minions from swarming them.

      After all, if it ain’t lyin’, then it ain’t $cn!

    • Sherbet

      Ah, yes, I recall Dr. Frank “We will bury you!” Wonderman. He went into politics, if memory serves.

      (That’s a joke for really old people.)

    • Franklin Adams

      Dr. Frank has a striking resemblance to my Great Uncle Nick. He had a funny accent and liked to talk about some party a lot and how he’d been on a central committee until some jerk named Leo gave him walking papers. We just figured it was the Vodka talking. He also liked to bang shoes on tables and talk about burying people when he didn’t get his way, but again, I swear it was the booze.

  • beauty for ashes

    This is like a three tissue story. Much love to you Bernie. Will keep you in my prayers. Just want to give you a big hug. Also its good for you and releases oxytocin in your brain <3 ((((hugs))))
    FUCK CANCER!!!!!!!

  • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

    “…..The Times established pretty conclusively that the Scientologists of Big Blue voted for Donald Trump, who won the election. Why not own it?….”

    That’s a tough answer. I’m glad though she didn’t try to “own it”, since that wouldn’t have been my view and I’d have rankled had anyone tried push Trump on “us.”

    When Haggis was in, when other celebs were in who are more liberal, and are liberal still, I think they also would have been rankled had Janet tried to “own” being supportive of Trump.

    In an odd way, I looked up to Haggis, since I knew he was way a cut above “our” other celebs in terms of smarts about the world, and more the direction of rationale I’d wished “we” had in our leadership of the movement.

    I sided with our liberal leaning celebs smart enough to see through this Trump thing the lower minded Sea Org members have fallen for.

  • Liberated

    I just had the wildest thing in the world happen:

    I had carpet replaced with flooring in my hallway, and the cables that connected to bedrooms were lying on the floor and were not only dangerous but looked awful.
    So, Comcast finally came to put the cables up high so I wouldn’t trip on them, but that didn’t work so I eliminated them altogether ( hardly ever watch tv in the bedroom) so who cares. Looks better already.

    Before the guy left I made sure the living room tv worked so I turned it on and the guy said “whoa, the days of pressing numbers on the remote are over) and he showed me how to use the “voice activator.”

    So, we’re playing around with channels and names…you can say a person’s name or a name of a station doesn’t matter so, I say Leah Remini and aftermath appears and the guy says “oh my are wife and I are gonna stream that show”.
    I immediately flip out and start telling him all about it and he says his good friend’s parents are deep in the cult and live in Clearwater and the friend was actually brought up in the church.

    I go on and on and tell him how wonderful Leah’s show is and I tell him to look up Tony Ortega and the underground bunker, he said he would.

    I consider this a “bunker miracle “, to run into a young person around here that hates scientology is very rare.
    Sorry if I rambled on the guy just left and I’m excited.

    • Chee Chalker

      Is it rare in your area because young people are unaware of the evils of Co$?
      Or are they favorable to it?

      Around here it is not even a blip on the radar

      But, it’s Chicago…..not a very big college town
      (Spinal Tap joke)

      • Liberated

        Here in Indianapolis it used to be known but those days are long gone.
        I considered it unknown and to find a young person that has contempt, well it blew my mind.

        • Chee Chalker

          Ah! Yes I understand completely! I have an 18 year old who only has contempt for her parents

          • Kestrel

            I went through that phase.

    • pluvo

      Very good. What a story and coincidence. I would be exited too.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Not a miracle, Liberated – just proof of your OT superpowers!!!

      • Liberated

        Aww shucks!

    • Ann B Watson

      💖💘

    • Kestrel

      Leah’s series is reaching a much larger number of people in my circle than I expected. Earlier this week, a friend and I had dinner and he brought it up, and yesterday, I read another friend’s thread on Facebook where people were talking about it.

  • flyonthewall