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National civil rights museum knows it’s harboring Scientology front group, shrugs it off

 
Rod Keller is on the case again this week, looking into Scientology’s many front groups and their activities…

Scientology usually has its front groups hide their connection to the church in order to gain acceptance. But sometimes they’re invited through the front door with full knowledge of their actual role. That is the case at the National Center for Civil and Human Rights, which has been showing a video from the Scientology front group United for Human Rights since its opening in 2014.

The Center was built on land donated by the Coca-Cola Company, and sits between that company’s World of Coca-Cola museum and the Georgia Aquarium in downtown Atlanta. Civil rights leaders Evelyn G. Lowery, Juanita Abernathy, and Congressman John Lewis were instrumental in establishing the center, which has on display personal papers from the Morehouse College Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. collection, including drafts of Letter from Birmingham Jail and many others.

A separate exhibit space in the museum is named “Spark of Conviction: The Global Human Rights Movement,” which is a collaboration between five human rights organizations: Human Rights First, Amnesty International USA, Freedom House, Human Rights Watch, and Minority Rights Group International.

 

 
Scientology issued a press release in November promoting its contribution to the exhibit – a video titled “What Are Human Rights,” which is intended to “help accomplish the Center’s purpose of creating a space where visitors may explore and be empowered by the fundamental rights shared by all humanity.” Over the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday weekend, Scientologists shared a link to the press release repeatedly on social media.

 

 
The press release was news to the Center for Civil and Human Rights. “That press release was not issued by the Center, and we have no affiliation with Scientology or United for Human Rights,” museum spokeswoman Kristie Raymer tells us. “When permissions were sought to use the video in our Human Rights exhibit we discovered that it was created by the group Youth for Human Rights. Upon further review that group was determined to be associated with Scientology. The Center for Civil Rights did not pay for the creation or use of the video and in no way aligns with Scientology.” Raymer says she is aware of allegations of human rights abuses by Scientology, but the Center has no official position on them.

Jill Savitt was the curator for the Spark of Conviction coalition, and selected the video along with all of the other exhibits. Her memory differs somewhat, but she was aware that the video was produced by Scientology. “That press release is from November? The rights to the video were obtained in 2012 and 2013,” when the exhibits were being designed. “We always knew United for Human Rights was part of Scientology. I have used the video in human rights presentations at schools because it is so great at explaining the history of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.”

 

 
The video was edited down because she was looking for a three or four minute video, and the original is almost ten. “We used the recap of the history at the end. The Church of Scientology has a sub-organization called United for Human Rights, that really is maybe owned or affiliated with them but the video stands on its own. The video is quite good and has been used by a lot of organizations, and United for Human Rights has organized a coalition of organizations and we just took the video on its merits. It passed through our committee of experts on human rights as a fair and unbiased history of human rights.”

 

 
Savitt sees no contradiction concerning allegations of human rights abuses by Scientology. “We assessed the video entirely on its merits. The production is presented without any attribution, or maybe at the very end it might say United for Human Rights. I told our curatorial team if we had made our own video it would have looked a lot like that. There’s no proselytizing, and in terms of curricular materials aimed at kids, that video in particular is excellent. I’m not sure we could have done as good a job as they did, and they didn’t charge us anything.”

 

 
The video is played on a wall in an exhibit hall that features painted portraits of human rights heroes such as Dr. King, Eleanor Roosevelt and Ghandi. There is also a rogue’s gallery of human rights abusers, such as Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler and former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. The Scientology slogan “What Are Human Rights?” appears on the wall over the video screen.

 
— Rod Keller

 
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About that last Leah Remini episode…

If you were like us, you’ve been obsessively checking ahead on the A&E network’s online calendar, trying to keep an eye on what turned out to be a pretty unusual airing schedule for Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.

Initially, A&E announced that it was going to be an 8-episode series. But then, its first Tuesday night episode turned out to be the most watched series premiere for the network in two years. A&E had an unexpected hit on its hands, and that sent the network scrambling. We started hearing that the production team was rushing to put together a special additional episode, and the network also started showing short sneak peek segments on Monday nights. The special — a “Reddit AMA” episode featuring Paulette Cooper — aired on Dec. 19.

Eventually, the seventh regular episode, “Enemies of the Church,” was scheduled to air on January 10, and the network began calling it the “season finale” — even though yet another Reddit AMA special was scheduled for the following week, January 17.

And what about the originally scheduled eighth episode? When we checked the A&E website several weeks ago, it appeared to be scheduled for January 24, and was named “The Apostate.” A description of the episode indicated that it would focus on Leah Remini herself.

And so, last Tuesday night, as the second Reddit AMA special episode aired, we fully expected that it would not be the last of the series — even though Leah Remini herself, in the show, talked about it like it was the end of season one.

Well, we’ve now learned that last week’s special episode was, indeed, the end of season one, and the originally scheduled eighth episode, “The Apostate,” no longer shows up on A&E’s schedule.

That second Reddit AMA special was the end of the season.

“To be continued,” were the final words on the screen when it ended. But so far, we still haven’t heard anything definitive about whether there’s going to be a season two of Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.

Our fingers are crossed.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Actual caption: “Donor donates $30,000 to Rev [Alfreddie] Johnson favorite charity just to see him dance.”

 

 
Official photos from New Zealand came in pretty late last night, so we thought we’d put them here as well…

Heeeeeere’s Dave!

 

 
Oh my, they’re really claiming “thousands”….

 

 
But here’s the overhead shot, let’s get an accurate count…

 

 
More Dave!

 

 

 
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John Travolta’s co-star weighs in

 
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June will be here before you know it

 

 
HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

[Thank you, Observer.]

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on January 22, 2017 at 07:00

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The Best of the Underground Bunker, 1995-2016 Just starting out here? We’ve picked out the most important stories we’ve covered here at the Undergound Bunker (2012-2016), The Village Voice (2008-2012), New Times Los Angeles (1999-2002) and the Phoenix New Times (1995-1999)

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • SarahDB

    Maggie Roche of the Roches died today of breast cancer

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/iEtSkJDA61g

    • SarahDB

      arg, why can’t I get the video to embed??

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Here you go:

        Edit: no point in showing it twice.

        ETA: oh, it’s still there… Now what do I do.

        ETA: oh, now it went away. Yay.

        • just another guy out there

          And here’s one of her songs-

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh-U7nagCjw

          • SarahDB

            This was just before they broke up…😢

        • SarahDB

          xoxo

        • ExCult.Jan

          Yep, that’s exactly how I do a fancy post. Well, more than 3 edits, usually.

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Might as well go all the way, right? Lol.

      • Observer

        Just delete the HTML. It will embed automatically.

        • SarahDB

          I did it!!

    • Liberated

      The movie ” Crossing Delancey” showcased their music…good movie.

      • SarahDB

        This clip is from their SNL appearance, Season 5 No 5 with Bea Arthur as host and the original cast

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    Somebody grab me an air-sickness bag. Laura Prepon marched with the women’s march at the Sundance Film Festival….which of course as everyone knows is a march for civil rights for women, minorities, LBGT, etc. etc. How does this fit in with Scientology abuses? Really ???? GEEZ.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4144574/Laura-Prepon-wraps-warm-Sundance-premiere.html

    • Liberated

      What a hypocrite…and to think I actually liked her at one time.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        I know….this really irritated me no end. I think I shall have to tweet her as soon as I calm down.

        • Liberated

          Please do!

      • beauty for ashes

        Do you think if she really knew and fully understood how much of a hypocrite she was, she could play the character she does so well with such integrity. I just want to put that thought out there to think about, that perhaps as Leah said you are actually shielded from the truth and punished for looking for it. Maybe she needs love bombing by the critics to get her out, instead of being called a hypocrite? Like SAVE LAURA.
        I just see so much humanity and potential for her. I’m gonna campaign for a little compassion.

        • Liberated

          No, I don’t think she has a clue how much her allegiance with the cult has shamed her in the eyes of the public and yes I think she is blinded.
          I consider her a young person, and she is having great success….good for her.
          She is definitely in the “bubble” where the cult says they and only they own that success…..I haven’t given up hope for her either.
          I think she will eventually see the cult for what it truly is, but like I said she’s a young girl with plenty of time to “discover ” the truth…..and I will always be on the side of compassion! Always.

        • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

          I think she is protected or is protecting herself (per Scientology policy) from any anti-scientology stuff. However, SOME of it has to be reaching her purview now because of Leah’s program. I think she’s a really good actress. My hope is that maybe through a few people tweeting her maybe somewhere inside of herself she may start to question things and start googling. (although that’s never worked with Kristie, John Travolta or Cruise) One can hope. People who work with her have to be at least asking her about Leah. (unless she has made that topic verboten)

    • Frodis73

      I saw her tweet lat night and was annoyed. A couple people called her out on twitter for it.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        Good I’m glad they did. 🙂

  • anonsparrow
    • anonsparrow

      Nothing to see here.. move along.

      • Kestrel

        A digital currency would have advantages for the government. Every transaction can be tracked. Every payment compared against income tax declarations to make sure all the tax is paid. Those who live in a cash economy today, like bar backs, drug dealers, and hookers would have to find a new compensation stream.

        • anonsparrow

          Yes it would certainly have advantages for the government.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    During the last days there has been a lot of focus on the Vulva. I propose we all show some love for the Uvula for a few days. What do you all say?

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      “shut yo mouth!”

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        That’s not showing love for the Uvula!

    • anonsparrow

      All you did was change the letters around. and added a u.. 🙂

      No wait.. you changed a u to a v.. 🙂

      • anonsparrow

        One of the countries that has not done enough to fight corruption is the US, Stiglitz went on to say, and one remedy could be to phase out cash and embrace digital currencies.

    • Liberated

      I have both and they’re in good shape…..what do “you” say?

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        I only have a Uvula *looks down in shame*

        • Liberated

          That’s ok you’re still loved.❤️

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Thank you *wipes tears from eyes*

        • beauty for ashes

          That’s okay, I don’t have a uvula. Tonsillectomy was definitely not done by a delicate plastic surgeon. 🙂

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Wow. I can’t imagine life without mine. It’s just always been there for me, through thick and thin.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              Or should I say: through hack and phlegm.

    • Bob Crouch

      Well, if I were pressed to pick one…

    • daisy

      Where the hell have I been I do not remember the vulva discussed Link ?

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        It’s been all over the news, and plenty of pics here yesterday. Been sleeping at the bar again, Daisy? Nola should have woke you up.

        • daisy

          I am stoned cold sober and that is an alternative fact.

          • Liberated

            Why?

            • daisy

              That was the thread I was on while you guys were discussing vulva*s. Kelly C was characterizing lie the press secretary said as an * alternative fact *

            • Liberated

              Kelly C…..lie much?
              Did you see Kelly’s outfit for the inauguration? She looked like an escaped drummer boy from the “Nutcracker”
              Or a greeter at “FAO Schwartz “.

              Yes I stole both those jokes.

      • Liberated

        Pussy!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    We have been celebrating a little guy –
    a first birthday party is where the kid
    wants to touch the flame and his big
    brother blows it out, so he goes

    “Where did that pretty thing go?
    What the hell, this tastes pretty damn good,
    guzzle, guzzle, hmhhh mmm mmumptious”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e0c67d83e9f78b4a4b6c59dd89a2f5096c224ed3d3b119ba5f92d1c9c129f94.jpg

    • Liberated

      Your kids are so sweet…I just love them!

    • Ella Raitch

      And then comes the sugar crash.Memories of my third son at two, staggering like a drunken sailor, then sleeping for about 15 hours.

  • HowdyCon 2017 KSW Edition makes me want to drink less and more at the same time. I miss PTS girl already.

  • Kestrel

    O/T: It would seem that Int Base, which is in neither Hemet nor San Jacinto, is being blessed with an abundance of rain. May its grass be green and the hillsides above the RTC building (and L Ron Hubbard’s mansion) firm.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/158db5098309cb9470dff94e486cc77090617849877e70f9694f25f36f69934c.jpg

    • Observer

      I wouldn’t be surprised if they had another mudslide with all the heavy rain. Is there another documentary crew roaming around somewhere?

      • Kestrel

        Oh! Perish the thought!

        I was under the impression that the made a diligent effort to redirect any excess discharge from the surrounding hills. Even so, it would be futile against a significant event.

      • chukicita

        Drone?

    • chukicita

      Hm. Storm is moving onshore at Flag now.

  • sizzle8

    “Miscavige bounded on stage just before 3pm. His teeth were gleaming. They shone like glow worms trapped inside his face. The ecclesiastical leader of the Scientology religion was trim for 56, his 1m 55cm frame snug inside in a perfectly fitted suit. He looked like a more menacing Joel Osteen; the kind of man a robot would design if it was given only 1980s magazine images of a perfect American nuclear family. In normal New Zealand society, he’d probably be lambasted for not wearing enough jandals. But here he was in his element. He was setting off standing ovations and rapturous applause with every sentence. He was invoking what seemed to be deeply moving truths for many people. And he was talking complete gibberish.”

    http://thespinoff.co.nz/society/23-01-2017/undercover-at-the-opening-of-scientologys-new-auckland-headquarters/

    • AntoniaW

      Wow!! I was stuck by this extract from the piece:- “On Saturday, Miscavige was most focused on the New Zealanders who’d laboured at home.
      “As LRH so evocatively wrote: there are gods above other gods and gods beyond the gods of the universes,” he continued. “Which in this case brings you to your Oceanic gods of ANZO. Those who proved nothing is impossible given pure hearts and number 8 wire mentality.”
      To me, it sounded like Miscavige was literally having a stroke. But the crowd stood as one to applaud after those words.”

      – so I have a question: is Miscavige here revealing some new concept in pseudo-theology? The “Oceanic gods of ANZO”?? Has he dreamt up a new, Australian/New Zealander “god” or space-entity with which to entice the locals and their wallets, or have I missed something by way of background? Can anyone explain what is happening here?

      • Kestrel

        I don’t think even Dan Sherman can explain what is happening here. I think that’s the whole point.

        • AntoniaW

          Sigh. Why am I still surprised.

        • AntoniaW

          I’ve done my tiny bit by posting on the Spinoff website:

          Antonia W “I thought this was a fantastic article, really useful and informative. There’s just one statement I’d take issue with, though; and that’s that Scientology has “helped thousands kick substance abuse”. If you google Narconon – the name of their front organisation that carries out “drugs rehabilitation” – you’ll see that their treatments are not only NOT endorsed by any medical professionals, they are also cited in various law suits for causing the deaths of participants. These people are really dangerous to the health and wallets of New Zealanders – so huge kudos to Hayden Donnell for the detailed and hilarious account.”
          Like · Reply · Just now · Edited

          • AntoniaW

            Oooh and The Spinoff has responded really quickly, very decent of them:-

            The Spinoff
            Hi Antonia, thanks for bringing that to our attention. It should have read “claims to have helped” – we’re fixing that now
            Unlike · Reply · 1 · 7 mins

            Antonia Willis Thank you.”

            • Frodis73

              Awesome!!

      • stanrogers

        Shhh. It’s an enormous flightless marsupial parrot that lives deep underground, making eerie thrumming noises and deciding the fates of uncounted universes. Or something.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Maybe my favorite lines? “It all contributed to a vague otherworldly feel. The church was like an office block set up by aliens trying to fit into human society.”

  • nottrue
    • Observer

      Blasphemy!

    • Thanks a bunch for pointing that out.
      Every time I see an Ideal org opening in future, I will see not one, but two arseholes.

      • sizzle8

        two irritated arsholes…

      • That’s a terrible things to say about an asshole! While I can imagine getting by very well without a Captain David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige, I wouldn’t like to try without an anus…

  • chukicita

    Bad storms moving into Occupied Clearwater. Tornado to the south in Sarasota.

    • Kestrel

      Be safe! From someone who resides in “tornado alley,” if you are in a tornado watch, have a helmet and sturdy shoes at the ready. If it goes to a tornado warning for your area, put them on and get to the smallest, lowest room without windows in your structure.

    • beauty for ashes

      Hope you stay safe kitteh!
      I was at my window this afternoon, bent down to get something from a drawer, came back up..and Booom! Windows covered with rain coming down so hard. I’m near Daytona.

    • salin

      Be safe. Kestrel’s advice is good (from another “tornado alley” dweller), though I have never used a helmet while waiting through a Tornado warning.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      I went to the beach in Sarasota on my 2009 USandA road trip. Awesome beach there.

  • Liberated

    There’s a new show on HBO. The Young Pope….I’m doing my best to like it.
    I just can’t decide if I do….I’ll get back to you.

  • HTC

    Still cleaning up from hurricane Matthew. Don’t forget that your washing machine serves as a great cooler

    • HTC

      Shit chukita that was supposed to be a reply to your post

      • beauty for ashes

        Disqus plain old lied to me earlier. Don’t take it personal, she’s a bitch to everyone.

  • Ella Raitch

    Pssst – has Frodis posted her story from yesterday’s march ? Anyone?

    • Observer

      Not yet

    • Mrs. B (AKA noseinabk)

      I was just about to write up a kr on her. I’ve been checking in all day hoping she reported her wins.

      • Ella Raitch

        I think she’s sitting there now reading this and just laughing at us….

  • Liberated

    Shame the victim is on..now!

    • daisy

      ??

      • Liberated

        A&E network.. 8:56- 9:01 short but good.

        • ExCult.Jan

          Seems like A&E is keeping the interest going by dangling this juicy morsel, and/or maybe just some bits from the edit room floor that Leah really, really, really wanted to be aired.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    I’m confused. It’s over already? What exactly was that?

    ETA: A teaser for an episode to come?

  • salin

    Reminder – click the recommend – it’s an upvote for today’s post/story on the UB, appreciation for the free flow of conversation in comments community in response to the day’s journalism, and a reminder that our voices of concern are strong, loud and many.

    Instead of Aurora’s a share the 6 week old half-brother and sisters of my beloved golden (way bigger than he was in my avatar from 2 yrs ago) – cause… well golden retriever puppies are just so cute! http://www.carriagehillgoldens.com/nl.html

  • http://thespinoff.co.nz/society/23-01-2017/undercover-at-the-opening-of-scientologys-new-auckland-headquarters/

    Miscavige bounded on stage just before 3pm. His teeth were gleaming. They shone like glow worms trapped inside his face.

    Bit of a stroke job with accidental truth there.

    Are they dating?

    http://thespinoff.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/ScientologyDoll.jpg

    • Tony Ortega

      It’s too bad these guys (Farrier being the other one) didn’t know a little more about Scientology.

      • Susan B.

        Well he at least caught on to DM’s ability to baffle with BS:

        “But here he was in his element. He was setting off standing ovations and rapturous applause with every sentence. He was invoking what seemed to be deeply moving truths for many people. And he was talking complete gibberish.”

        [Quote copied from Spinoff article –see link above from RMycroft.]

        • Tony Ortega

          Yeah, but their transcript seemed way off. I wonder what they were working from.

          • I had the same thought. That part didn’t make sense. His observations not bad but his quotes went haywire.

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Those dolls creep me out…..it’s like a Stephen King novel, truly.

  • RedShoeLady

    Tony & folks I’ve been flipping about here & there ran across the Jillian Schlesinger story. What a brave young lady! Any updates on her you can share? Wishing her (& other escapees) the very best life has to offer!
    Any thoughts on creating a worldwide “Underground Railroad” to help these people? Just a thought.

    Thank you Tony, Mike, Leah & others who run their blogs and keep this front & center.

    • I’m not sure what you’ve seen, so here’s what I have:

      Category:Jillian Schlesinger

      • RedShoeLady

        Thank you RMy…..I’m just looking with high hopes to know as of today she’s in good shape out of $ci and enjoying her new life. Nothing personal – no need for me know anything of that. My heart goes out to her and others like her. Just looking for good news in 2017 since this happened in 2014. Thank you.

  • madame duran

    Juliette Lewis at the Women’s March L.A., posing with U2’s Edge (I apologize if this was already posted).

    https://twitter.com/U2/status/823296322052755457

  • Taffy Sinclair

    I just saw Tony’s post re: Laura Prepon and her interview w/ “Celebrity” mag. I attempted to look up other editions of said mag, and MC Lyte came up as a cover feature. Is 1 of my fave rappers of all time a $cilon?!?!?

    • What’sup

      Not that I’m aware. But Doug E Fresh is…….so maybe.

  • Observer
    • What’sup

      You look different in this photo.

      • I know. Was googling for pencil drawings of hands and this came up.

        • What’sup

          Whatever you’re doing, keep up the good work.

          • Thanks. Same. We are about to get banned for this shenanigans.

            • What’sup

              Oh No. You actually have to work quite hard to get banned from this site……Trust me.

        • Liberated

          Yeah sure, I was googling for recipes.

          • Honest to God. Am just easily distracted. Besides, things were a bit depressing, so this seems nice.

            • Liberated

              Oh, I get it!

            • ExCult.Jan

              Be sure to show us your drawing.

              Edit, of the hands, I mean.

        • ExCult.Jan

          Might check your spelling for ‘hands’.

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            I see what you did there.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      I accept full responsibility!

      • My brother.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          And you, mine.

      • Liberated

        Everybody else blames you too!

      • Liberated

        I’d kill for her ass!

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          I would too, if you know what I mean 😉

          • Liberated

            Shut up. 🙂

      • Liberated

        So this means we’ve officially moved on from vulvas to asses…am I correct?

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Don’t forget our short foray into uvulas.

          • Liberated

            Excuse me, my dear!

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              No worries, darling 🙂

    • Qbird

      stunningly beautiful… Dodo, check out watercolor artist, Steve Hanks —

      The last painting on this page i saw a print of long ago… blew me away, couldn’t believe it was a watercolor: http://www.woblog.fr/posts/254/STEVE-HANKS.html

    • Jimmy3

      I got an emergency text alerting me there was butts on the bunker
      They was right

      • Your welcome.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        But you thought it was going to be mine, right?

    • Ella Raitch

      I approve this healthy, modest image. I could have posed for this in my much younger years, and would have thought I was fat!

  • Observer

    On the ID network they are showing an episode of Evil Lives Here, With Warren Jeffs’ brother talking about how Jeffs started the FLDS started and his progression into evil. The brother wanted to leave when he saw what was happening, but didn’t want to lose his family because they would have stayed.

    • Observer

      omg, this is just like Scientology, with polygamy. Soul-crushing.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        And child rape on a regular basis……of both sexes, BTW, not just the child brides, they sexually assault the little boys too, sometimes in church buildings during services saying they are doing it in the name of God. (Warren Jeff’s son in particular rhas recounted his own assault at church in the media) I think that like most cults, these are essentially good people led astray, but some of the leaders are the devil incarnate. It is just the most evil group I’ve ever dealt with, period, much worse than the other polygamy cults here.

        Yes the dynamics are very similar to the CoS….it’s amazing.

  • Rasha

    *stumbles in*
    *YAAWWWN*

    ….hey, Bunks. Just finished a 10-hour drive. Like, 23 minutes ago. Anyone can just throw in the traditional 30-word summary. Or, hell, just a haiku. Rasha is so tired right now, tha– WOAH! DODO! What the– …. okay, I can accept your explanation.

    Actually, really good shading for pencil. Nice detail in the hair… Imma let you.. guys…. *yaaaaawwwnnnnn sssttrreeetttcchhhhh …let you guys…. just…… night…..

    *THUNK*

    • Observer

      Sleep well!

      • Rasha

        …already started, Obs! ^_^

        • Observer

          You are remarkably coherent for a sleeptyper

      • Rasha

        It was said in a slow monotone, with hands hanging from outstretched arms, silly!

        • Observer

          Go to sleep, young lady!

          • Rasha

            *skedaddles*

            *trips, recovers*

            *cautiously skedaddles the rest of the way*

            • Observer

              And no reading under the covers with a flashlight!

    • It’s my KSW antidote.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Too bad you skedaddled like 30 seconds before TONY POSTED IN ALL CAPS!

  • Tony Ortega

    BARRY PEPPER TWEET ADDED TO THE POST!

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Sweet!

    • ExCult.Jan

      It just struck me that TONY JUST POSTED IN ALL CAPS!

      • Tony Ortega

        Breaking news gets me excited.

        • Sherbet

          Never so excited that a “methinks” will slip out, though.

          • Liberated

            Oh burn!

    • EmmaDaoust

      I still say he should play Miscavige when the movie is made.

  • Observer

    Jonnie Goodboy Tyler, Suppressive Person! Take that, Lafayette!

    • Liberated

      I never liked him just because he played that stupid role, and I really liked the Spike Lee movie
      25th Hour… but I didn’t like him.

      • Qbird

        Check out “The Snow Walker” & of course, The Green Mile, Lib.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Now they have to edit him out of the movie if any of the sheeple are going to watch it. ROFLMAO.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Don’t be ridiculous! Why if they did that for everyone who said something supportive about Leah or something bad about Scientology, they wouldn’t let Scientologists watch TV, go to movies or read the newspapers!

        Oh, wait…

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          XD

      • ExCult.Jan

        And recall all the DVDs.
        And put out a new edition, if SUMP can squeeze it into their busy production schedule.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          It’ll be the GATII version of ‘BE: the movie’. Davey can make even more millions!

  • Barry Pepper team Leah! Holy mother of god!!

    • Liberated

      I don’t even like his name..it’s a stupid name!

      • What’sup

        Why so salty? 🙂

  • What’sup

    We reached out to Forrest Whittaker for comment but he just gave us the ol’ stink eye.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      He could have at least thrown you the codpiece.

    • No need to be mean.

      • What’sup

        Lighten up, bro. Check those upvotes.

        • Jimmy3

          fake

        • All 4 of them?

          • What’sup

            Yep.

            • ExCult.Jan

              All 6

            • What’sup

              I was referring to who the upvotes were from, not the volume.

            • ExCult.Jan

              Sigh. Hovered. Got it. Boom.

  • Jimmy3

    Mmmmm. Smoked pepper

  • Ben Franklin

    OT but Wow. This is one of the most unbelievable religious things I have ever seen. I never even know something like this existed anywhere. The world is so full of many surprises, that

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjnqS05ZeXs

    • JJ

      Mermaids AND fire extinguishers. Ah, it must be real then!

  • JJ

    And when you touch down your timeframes are all but transcendent with an ETA from new OT 1, to OT2, OT3, new OT4 and OT5 until you enter a skyway from the purif to the new OT7 Solo Naught in less than a year and so become gods of the South Pacific (wild cheering).

    Did he really say that?

    Gods of the South Pacific… Gotta be careful there, Some pretty blood thirsty Gods in the Pacific Islands. Was rumors of human sacrifice into the sixties. So DM got there, lets see if he comes back. No bite marks…

    Why are they so determined to become gods when the originator said none of the humans who came before, and were presumed to be gods (God), actually were? Spend a hundred thousand bucks to learn to be something we don’t believe in anyway. WTF?

  • outraged

    Why wouldn’t A&E renew Aftermath?? That makes no sense based on the ratings and the reaction. And it cannot have been that expensive to produce.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Do we know for sure that they haven’t or won’t? Or that Leah doesn’t have something else up her sleeve?

    • Dave Reams

      Someday soon people will be making critical documentaries of the cult in state of the art film and TV studios in Hollywood and out on the way to Palm Springs : )

    • JJ

      All they need are some toothy, histrionic celebrities to show the world how happy and joyful they are in their beautiful religion…

      • ExCult.Jan

        ‘toothy’ HA!

      • Yeah! There have to be someone else than Donny Osmond but i can hear the rumble in the horizon. Gawd! there has to be so many Ex-mormons lol

      • April

        The Osmonds? That’s the only famous mormons I can think of.

    • Ex-Mormon here. With somewhere between 1/3 and 2/3 of converts leaving the LDS church and maintaining social ties with not only family but friends, even if excommunicated or had their names removed from church membership, one of the worst cult tools is not used.

      The LDS church has also started to acknowledge descent, or members not sustaining leadership, and it is not treated with immediate disciplinary actions.

      I paid my tithes, and when I couldn’t pay my electric bill, the church paid it for me for over a year. I also got groceries, furniture, clothes from the bishop’s warehouse, and I was an openly gay young member or the church.

      That said there are problems with that church, but seriously, even 99% of ehat happens in the temples is public knowledge through various teachings.

  • stillgrace2

    That is an awesome tweet from Barry Pepper!
    I scrolled down four hours and I don’t see the following item in the comments; it was in an NBC alert.

    “Heavy-hitting lawyers plan to sue President Donald Trump in federal court Monday over business interests that they say put him in violation of the Constitution by receiving payments from foreign governments.

    The nonprofit good-government group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, or CREW, will file the suit Monday morning in U.S. District Court in Manhattan, the organization said.”

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ethics-lawyers-sue-trump-over-continuing-business-interests-n710621

    • Jimmy3

      I sure hope CREW rows what they’re doing.

      • stillgrace2

        Did you watch SNL last night? “Shirtless Putin” admonished Trump for lying, saying he went too far with the lie. He gave the following example: “Just say you know LeBron James, not that you ARE LeBron James.”

        • Jimmy3

          I did, yeah. And Aziz Ansari killed me with that monologue. I thought it was really well done

          • stillgrace2

            Me, too. “No! No! No! Go back to pretending!”

            • Jimmy3

              Thank you for your service, we didn’t know how hard you were struggling. But PLEASE, you need to go back to pretending!

            • Susan B.

              McKinnon’s KellyAnne (sp?) Conway was awesome.

              But today I finally watched some of the cabinet hearings. DeVos for Education Secretary? Warren, Franken and Hassan made mincemeat out of her. It’s sickening. After that I perused the latest NYT articles on the Orange Menace and that other-worldly sensation like I’m living a nightmare came over me. And Spicer? Nastier than Mrs. Hemann, my 7th grade social studies teacher.

            • April

              I’ve seen episodes of Black Mirror that are less unsettling.

        • Jimmy3

          Also Kate McKinnon’s Russian villager character gets me every time

    • JJ

      So it begins. My only comfort after the election results was that the time clock started ticking. “Four more years…” He’ll be lucky if he gets four months.

    • Liberated

      Good, he commits an impeachable offense every single day….let’s get this ball rolling!

  • John Prince

    There might have been a couple hundred Souls at the “festive” occasion in New Zealand (even IF there were no Native New Zealanders among them! ) I’m particularly impressed by the grinning ,”highly sophisticated ” ,u-h-mm…academik -looking individuals that captain pissypants awarded to be photographed with him! One glance at “the cream of the crop” pretty much says it all, don’tcha think? (i’m not SO sure those marks could be considered “whales”) ..it appears the captain is REALLY scraping the bottom of the Barrel here😂😅😆
    👏

  • JJ

    You know I don’t see why we all get up in a frust over the concept of Scientology laying claims to HumanRights. It is simple. Human rights are reserved for people whom one perceives as well, human, fellow, like me, very like me in some cases. In reality how many of us have not met a person or a group of people we considered…animals so to speak?
    I think once it become group thought that some people are lesser than, like a hierarchical, semi religious organization with a paranoia level force factor 12 and a punitive subset of rules… I mean really, once you are an advanced person in Scientology, aren’t the rest of us…lesser beings? Bring our yer dead.
    They already have the victim blaming culture in place. It is surprising they don’t have more scandals…yet. Maybe this will head them off at the pass. The level of global awareness of their practices and abuses can’t but help keep new people from joining up and getting caught in the web…

  • mandymarie20

    Perhaps this is where Scientology’s connection with Nation of Islam is useful

  • Newiga

    Barry Pepper getting informed. Good for him. 😉

    • Jimmy3

      He’s well grounded

      • Newiga

        Hopefully not with copper wires!?

        • What’sup

          If you were the star of Battlefield Earth you’d be well grounded too.

  • What’sup

    Hi Daisy.

    • daisy

      Hi What*s up ? Did you see LL lately ?

      • What’sup

        No sign of him. He often vanishes for months.

        • daisy

          I thought I read that you were going to see him . I know now that he comes and goes. He explained it. I was just hoping someone knew if he were ok.

      • Nat-leficent

        Daisy Doll, LL always disappears for long periods of time without any word and then resurfaces and comments on everything and then disappears and then comments like mad over and over again. That’s who he is. No reason to fret. He’ll be back.

        • What’sup

          He certainly is a “in for a penny, in for a pound” kinda guy.

          • Nat-leficent

            Excellent summation 🙂

        • daisy

          Thanks pet , He certainly is a character .

  • Liberated

    Check out my “feral” cat in my bed….yeah I’m pretty sure I’ve got a cat! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a3a0c6a94741e168b0abd81a2be2ff881633c9d4b52c7ecb9d4ea61bcfb70452.jpg

    • What’sup

      Love Ginger Tabbies.

    • vicariousthrill

      Is he a rescue?

    • daisy

      Georgious

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Cute. I have two cats now that come scratching at my door for food – none of them are mine, both are sweethearts.

      • chukicita

        If you feed them, they are yours. It’s cat law.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          As it is written, I will abide by this law.

  • Dave Reams

    Contrasted with, lets say, 20 years ago, a person about to take their first step towards Scientology has a wealth of critical information at their fingertips and greater public awareness around them that could innoculate them from the cult. I wonder if people joining Scientology now are more apt through natural selection to be “super resistant bugs”, immune to critical thought? People perhaps seeking extreme controversy and tension? A different breed from those earlier on who joined on an authentic quest for self understanding?

    • kemist

      The only person I met who wanted to try it was a student from Benin who has, IMHO, an extremely naive vision of the world, and a very warped conception of the western world in particular. He does not seem to understand that there are terrible people, and that, no, it’s not a question of point of view.

      I know another guy from Laos, who IMO would be easy prey for them, for more or less the same reasons.

      These guys don’t look at the information, because they don’t even know it exists. Even if they were shown, I somehow doubt they’d believe it without someone explaining to them. They can’t get their minds around the fact that such predatory outfits exist here.

  • Ever met an SP?

    I liked the cartoon, more or less. Scientology does seem to have some talented graphic artists when they’re not being made to churn out all that over-engineered, glitzy, teflon crap the church normally uses for its video packages. I don’t have a particular problem with a third party organisation using it: as they said, the video stands on its own. The odd self-congratulatory press release from the church about it isn’t going to have much effect.

    On the whole, though, the church’s human rights campaigning has always puzzled me, even on its own terms. All they ever say is, “You have human rights! Here’s what they are! So now you know!” Well, great, but how does that help anyone? If you’re in a situation where your human rights are being abused, knowing in more detail about what those rights you’re being deprived of are would seem to be of academic interest at best. It doesn’t give you a remedy.

  • Joe Neira

    Please God, let there be a season 2! I want David Miscavige traumatized in terror just thinking about it. *Fingers crossed!*

  • Nat-leficent

    Testing
    @Jimmy3x:disqus

    • Jimmy3

      Works

      • Nat-leficent

        Should I drink coffee or take a nap?

        • Jimmy3

          Drink a nap and take a coffee

          • Nat-leficent

            Done and done. You are so smart

  • Nat-leficent

    Testing
    @i_am_flyonthewall:disqus

  • Apple

    I’m hoping they are holding off on Leah’s episode for Feb sweeps month. Then promote it as a one off special to get maximum ratings. A&E is losing Bates Motel this year, while it wasn’t a huge ratings hit it was a very buzzy show in the media. Leah’s show gets as much if not more buzz than their other big show Bates. Well, that’s my hope anyway.

  • richelieu jr

    I am sorry to share this (and I am sure I will to be the first to have mentioned it), but this news about Atermath is pretty alarming actually…

    First of all, one must presume tihat Leah doesn’t know what is happening, or else Tony would at least imply he did.

    She is not only the Star but the Producer of the BIGGEST HIT ON THE NETWORK, so…

    It would be astounding if she were being kept on the dark. Perhaps of it were just negotiating for a second season or not, they might take this stance, but unlikely as they should be kissing her feet, her nose, her… whatever…

    So if she knows and is not saying– not great. She is adept (to say the least
    ) at using her public profile as leverage to get what she wants. In fact, this is Hollywood power plays 101.

    She could easily say, “Were expanding it into a double-length Prime Time special and shooting new footage to flesh it out, etc…

    Or, to is just so good and essential that we want to start the second season with a boom and will show it with a Q &A after at the Affiliates shindig, or ComiCon or FoolPalooza, or whatever…

    If she doesn’t know, less good (in fact, unimaginable, IMHO). The only probable explanation would be that Leah Remini has become such a legal liability that any perceived continued association with her would cause such damage to the network that even a huge hit like Aftermath could never offset the damage inflicted.

    Nonsense.

    If they are holding it back to start next year with a bang, great, but they could just as easily end this season with one and do another. There is no lack of victims of the CoS, and presumably Leah, no idiot or blushing violet herself, has informed them of this.

    My guess, based on no more knowledge than most of us here, is that Legal has finally found a snag, or perhaps Blinky the Ling Ling helpfully pointed out to them with an arsenic muffin worth black-powder rn sprinkles…

    Did she at Andy point sign any kind of non-disclosure form. Perhaps thinking it was a receipt for the refund of the 300k paid to torture herself and her family?

    I certainly have no idea.

    My educated guess is this:

    As they have repeatedly in the past to slow down reporting, litigation or simply be a pain in the balls, the CoS os offering to finally participate on the process, holding out an offer that would en difficult to refuse:
    À (live?) interview with Tom Cruise?
    With Travolta?

    The first with the Ankle-biter in Chief, Slappy Miscavige himself?

    Any combination of the above?

    If they have put forward a credible (to the public at large and some ill-informed judge who pulls the short (4´13”.. heh!) straw in the docket) offer to give their side, A&E would be nearly obliged to accept, especially after a season of interstitials proclaiming g that “up to this date, Scientology has refused or offer to tell their side,” or whatever legal boilerplate they decorated the bumpers with…

    And the the CoS will object to one thing after another, scream, threaten to tell the press, browbeat director’ star and network, until public interest cools and/or the give the whole thing the stink
    Of scandal and failure, all whilst their little in-house home-movie makers fil every detail and shoot it out through their Sump Dump next to the Tiki-Ti…

    Hell, perhaps they will offer to let them film in what is left of KCET, simultaneously getting a bit of free publicity for it?

    Of this is so, Leah and her production company would be obliged to stay mum while discussions inside the network, between the show and A&E, and between all parties continue.

    CoS lay pretty low during the production of this show, hoping, one imagines that Hurricane Leah would blow over.

    Even Miscavige isn’t so dense and isolated that he cannot see this is objectively not the case.

    I have said ma h times that one of Hubbard’s greatest misunderstandings of PR (n° 13764 on the list of claimed expertise in fields he clearly had, at best, a layman s understanding of) is that as a general rule:

    It is often better to be inside the house pissing out and exercising leverage than outside pissing in.

    The Same logic holds for the “house” or network itself: absorb your critics and make them part of the solution.

    (For an excellent example of how NOT to do this, see the Republican refusal to participate in the Healthcare debate. When it happened’ they had a result that they had no say in shaping (well, other than the fact that Obama basically took the old Republican Plan and mixed it with Romneycare, but so digress…) one might argue that it finally paid off, but time will tell, and I am not sure any but the most deranged amongst them consider the humiliation of their entire system and the election of the homunculus the establishment fought so hard to neuter as a “victory” it is also worth noting’ that despite Trump’s insistance that he has the entire nation-wide system figured out to the smallest detail, it is clear to anyone that there is no plan ready to replace Obamacare)

    At any rate, that is my guess.

    The Scilons are pretending to want to play ball.

    Ugh.