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Live-blogging Leah Remini’s special episode tonight: Get a load of these miscreants!

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Three years ago, we pulled the mask off of OTVIIIisGrrr8!, the greatest of the Scientology satirizers. It turned out that “we in RTC” was actually Jeffrey Augustine, a longtime Scientology critic who has also operated under the nom de guerre of “J.Swift.”

Little did we know that since we pulled off his mask, OTVIII would be making the big time. Tonight, Jeffrey will be joining his wife Karen de la Carriere, former Sea Org worker Chris Shelton, and journalist Paulette Cooper on a special one-hour episode of Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath.

We asked OTVIIIisGrrr8! how it feels to make it to A&E’s hit series, which continues with its fourth regular episode tomorrow night.

“We in RTC are disappointed that Leah’s goons didn’t let us near the set,” OTVIII told us. “So you’ll just have to put up with yet another dumping of entheta spread by the unholy trinity of Psychiatry, Big Pharma, and the CIA.”

Clearly, OTVIII deserves his own show. We’d watch it.

Anyway, part of tonight’s episode is apparently taken up with answering questions from Reddit. But we’re really looking forward to the interviews with our illustrious four.

We thought we’d provide some links to additional things you can read about tonight’s participants.

Paulette Cooper: If you haven’t already, you must look through the photographs that we put together that we would have put into our book about Paulette if we had been able to. And if you haven’t read the book already, the photos give you some idea of just how much territory we cover in it. Give them a look! And of Paulette’s many appearances, we liked this one on LipTV with Allison Hope Weiner and your proprietor.

Chris Shelton: We were happy to break the news of Chris’s book, Scientology from A to Xenu last year on Christmas Day — what a treat that was for everyone. You’re probably familiar with Chris’s many videos explaining Scientology, but one of the things we’re most grateful to him for was his help decoding a bizarre secretly-recorded audiotape that captured a Scientology briefing by a high-level church executive. Go here for the first in the series. We’re really indebted to Chris for turning that stuff into English.

Karen de la Carriere: We’ve had some big moments with Karen. None bigger than when she had us break the news of her son Alexander’s death in 2012. She has also been blamed repeatedly by Scientology over things she’s had nothing to do with — a TV series that has yet to air, for example, and a bizarre infiltration effort.

Jeffrey Augustine: Jeff has contributed some killer pieces for us over the years, as well as his great podcasts. We’re indebted to him for supplying us some key documents about the value of Scientology corporations, and he’s also helped explain why it’s so hard to get your money back from Scientology, how L. Ron Hubbard is the true source for some of Scientology’s most nefarious legal traps, and decoding some of David Miscavige’s smear tactics.

Please join us in the comments section tonight at 10 pm Eastern as Leah’s special hour airs. We didn’t get a chance to see this one early, so we’ll be watching it for the first time along with you!

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on December 19, 2016 at 17:45

E-mail tips and story ideas to tonyo94 AT gmail DOT com or follow us on Twitter. We post behind-the-scenes updates at our Facebook author page. After every new story we send out an alert to our e-mail list and our FB page.

Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Children in the Sea Org live separately from their parents.

  • TexasBroad

    Just turning on and can’t wait!! Will come back for the comments after! I’m excited about how many people I know who are watching these shows knowing nothing more than what they learned on Southpark or tabloids.

  • Observer

    Get a hankie

  • Supper Powers

    I’m glad Rinder is facilitating the telling of the story.

    • EDN/laineybin

      Me too

  • Newiga

    Alex </ 3

    • Newiga

      Nuff said… T_T

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Oh gods, Alexander…I’m going to cry. I’m being honest about that.

  • Ugh, makes me think of my brother in the Sea Org, also Alexander. I’m so sorry Karen.

  • madame duran

    Lawd Jeeeeeeeeeesussssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Alex molested as a 12 year old by a 40 yr old.

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      Oh shit… I never knew…

      • Ruby

        always worse than you think…

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Statutory rape is turning out to be a sacrament in scientology.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        If not that, a ritual with all the vestments and censors to cover their asses and take the stench away.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Karen publically left church in 2010 and started speaking out…

  • Baby

    Aaron is a hero.. Thank God he notified Karen at the risk of getting in big trouble.

    • salin

      Sick f*cks in Co$ prevent Karen from seeing and saying goodbye to her son. Misanthropic Organization.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Alexander had 104 fever…

  • Chocolate Velvet

    The fact that Karen was not informed her son had died, that is a monstrous thing. If you have seen the things that the cult bots say about her online — the slurs and insults — it is just disgusting and wrong. I’m glad she gets the chance to tell her story today.

  • A True Prince

    Crushing so crushing

  • Baby

    damnit.. Karen.. tragic..

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Church went to great lengths to make sure she didn’t see her son…

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      Not even his body…

  • Newiga

    They wouldn’t let a mother kiss his son goodbye!!!

  • Observer

    This story still turns my stomach

    • pluvo

      I came out with my (real) name after they treated Karen so horrible.

    • Newiga

      It’s so heart-breaking. T_T I have no words.

    • gtsix

      Seriously, just let him die from a goddamn flu fever. In fucking LA. In the 21st century. Such disgust.

  • Supper Powers

    JA is looking so fiiiine!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      We in the RTC expected more hair.

  • Robert Eckert

    A&E is going to make a documentary about the KKK

    • YoIt’sMe

      I would like to see one on the Nation of Islam followers too.

    • jazzlover

      I can recommend the 8 episode series that just ended a couple of weeks ago – “The Killing Season”. Scary stuff, and more evidence of law enforcement’s lameness.

  • Scientology is just cruel.

    • Observer

      I’d take it past cruel and well into sadistic

  • PerpetualOutflow

    This is an awkward and unfortunate juxtaposition….KKK hatred right next to the special on $cientology.

    • The juxtaposition is absolutely appropriate. One hate group, to another.

      • YoIt’sMe

        Scientology I don’t see as a hate group but a cult. Difference.

        • Then you clearly need glasses, friend.

        • Mark Foster

          Keep reading and researching. It is DEFINITELY a hate group.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        I fear that is not the way some may take it, i.e. hatred against blacks=”hatred” against $cientologists.

        • I don’t see that happening at all. That doesn’t even make sense.

          • PerpetualOutflow

            I’m no doubt more skeptical than the average viewer. The first thing I thought when that came on was, “Oh no, did the clams create a spot about the despicable KKK to generate sympathy for themselves during this program?

            • It was an ad spot for another A&E series airing in January.

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Yes, I saw that within a couple of seconds. Thanks Derek

            • My bad. I get what you were saying now

  • Holy shit. There is a commercial about racism, feat. the KKK showing right now. The juxtaposition is uncanny.

  • madame duran

    Coming in from Twitter. Me too, girl. Me too.

    https://twitter.com/ComrieQuinn/status/811056575385403392

  • Baby

    Where is Bossman Tony O tonight?

    • Tony Ortega

      Working on tomorrow morning’s story.

      • Tony Ortega

        It’s kind of gnarly.

        • Qbird

          bravo!

        • Newiga

          Gnarly? *Gets Bunker survival kit ready*

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          It always is.

        • Susan black

          good

          • Susan B.

            Hi Susan!

            • Susan black

              Hey Susan!

        • Baby

          They all are! ugh I hate this Fuckin cult.

        • Narapoid

          Gnarly, in the ‘Bunker? Sounds like I may have to have some coffee and come back to it…

          • Susan black

            Tony is a california boy. “Gnarly” is a word here.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Surfer term. The proper reply is: “Stoked!”

      • And I’m Cute, Too

        As they say here in Japan, “O-tsukare-sama!”

        • gtsix

          Gesundheit. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Baby

        Good Man..

    • Couch_Incident

      Watching it all come together…

  • Narapoid

    I’m worried for Heber. He IS the President of Scientology. He was on TV promoting it. DM, you leave that man alone.

    • Newiga

      Yes… Poor Heber. He’s an old man. He should be comfortably retired some place nice NOT trapped in a cult.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    I cannot really put into words how much satisfaction I feel at seeing these stories told, knowing how much of the general public is watching. So many people with broken hearts because of the impact of scientology’s policies and practices on their families. It will not stop until people understand what is wrong here. So much appreciation for this series, because it has been so effective in helping folks understand.

  • Newiga

    “People are giving up living to do Scientology” Preach it, Lear girl!

  • College funds.

  • Baby

    You know you are addicted to this shit when you know everyone on the stage..

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Abandon rights to sue.

  • Supper Powers

    I just love Jeffrey’s voice.

  • Observer

    Scn’s ludicrous contracts. Leah had no idea she’d signed one. Shocked.

  • Type 3 contract “they can lock you in a room” … uh oh

    • chukicita

      “I signed that?”

  • madame duran

    How much to pay for Scientology? At least $360K. If you’re not rich, you pay via 2nd/3rd mortgage, YOU GO WITHOUT and give all to Scientology.

  • A True Prince

    This is just fucking weird what other religion has contracts to sign? Simple put Fuck You LRH!!

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    8 pointed cross, for 8 dynamics…

    • LongtimeLurker

      How did I not know this?

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    The Lisa Clause…fuckers.

    • Narapoid

      Boy, gettin’ a lot of clarifying air tonight!

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        People are going to have to watch this twice to absorb it all.

  • Couch_Incident

    “I’m sure it will come to an end.”

    • scottmercer

      That was a good explanation by Rinder though, credit where credit is due: in the far future, some people still might read Hubbard’s book and practice the practices, but the institution of the CoS will vanish.

  • MaxLuvsDaBunk

    wait influence with politics – there’s more there than meets the eye //// billy boy clinton , etc etc

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Greta Van Susteren, scientologist and attorney was the defense attorney for the “DC Madam.”

      • MaxLuvsDaBunk

        and the history goes back into politics a bunch

    • Couch_Incident

      Was hoping they’d hit “Operation Snow White” – I think that would get a lot of traction with the viewers.

      • Robert Eckert

        They did mention the FBI raids in connection with Paulette’s story but didn’t go into the reasons the FBI was raiding.

  • Robert Eckert

    Rinder can just sit there looking gorgeous and Australian

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I’m good with that.

      • gtsix

        Down girl. Heel. Stay.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Aw, Mike I mostly just want to give a big ol’ bear hug to. Now if we’re talking a fine Aussie man that can give a lady the vapors, let’s talk Mr. Seymour…

          • gtsix

            DOWN GIRL. HEEL. STAY! (gods love those aussies.)

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              A large part of it is the accent. I can’t lie.

            • gtsix

              Indeed. We yanks love the accents. (the blue eyes and lovely smile don’t hurt none, saying).

            • chukicita

              Troo. If he talked with a Philly accent, it would be … different.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Or my own hometown Baltimore accent…I even hurt my own ears sometimes.

              ETA: Wait, don’t tell Juicer I said that… ; )

    • LongtimeLurker

      It’s something in the water, mate.

    • They’ve got a good chemistry going.

  • madame duran

    What influence does Scn have on U.S. politics? Rinder: zero (he laughs)

    • FredEX2

      They try. But they’re ineffective and no one is listening to them anymore.

      • scottmercer

        Also another point Rinder could have made quickly: they are trying to get influence but failing miserably.

        • FredEX2

          Yes, they do fundraisers and invite movers and shakers in politics trying to safe point and influence in order to further their political goals. ( i.e. Like Pam Bondi etc. ) They don’t get very far tho…and now with the truth about the things they do
          being exposed…most will avoid them lest some of Scientology’s reputation rub off on them.

          They caused this to themselves. Nobody cares what they believe…but what DOES matter are all the crimes, violations, destruction and damage they do to others. It’s catching up to them now and they are reaping what they have sown.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Where’s Shelly ? (Leah’s ending)

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    where’s shelley?

  • Observer

    Oooo, where’s Shelly?

  • A True Prince

    Good question word is out and here comes Leah!!!

  • Prim

    What’s the pin Jeff has on?

    • pluvo

      Think it is the Maltese cross. Can’t see it – but there was talked about it here on the blog a while ago.

    • Robert Eckert

      It’s from a Masonic order that the Scientologists are spooked by (inherited from one of LRH’s paranoias)

  • Observer

    Leah’s following up on the missing persons report

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    even if she said, leah go fuck yourself, I’d be happy to see that she was alive!

    • Newiga

      Leah is a true friend.

      • Baby

        You know she isn’t going to let it rest.

  • Missing posters.

    • Susan black

      Put up in Crestline

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    what’s next?

  • Baby

    I remember that it was reported that ” It ( Shelly) was a private matter..

  • Chocolate Velvet

    About that cross:
    yes it is Crowley influenced. but that does not matter so much now. it is all about the MONEY.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3aeb0509bba2f00e6190019e042e8a7926ddcf864af4262ebb3ca9ca3331cbf6.jpg

    • I saw that as a missed opportunity as well.

    • MaxLuvsDaBunk

      i still say the occult, crowley, and mkultra stuff is significant

      • Chocolate Velvet

        I don’t disagree in terms of understanding the cult and how to deal with it. But for those who are still in, (and not tasked with using Black Dianetics to suppress their enemies, LOL) that kind of occult stuff is way outside their purview. They are not even really focused on moving up the “bridge” to OT anymore. It is all about IAS status now — pure productivity of $$$.

        • MaxLuvsDaBunk

          so well said all of you! i wish this newbie (moi) knew how to compliment and agree with a whole slew of brilliant responders

      • Gerard Plourde

        I agree that it is significant, but I understand why it wouldn’t have to be brought up. The actual abuse that’s being done to people by the Chuch is what’s truly indefensible (“By their fruits you will know them.”).

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Yes. But the personal stories, the results of those beliefs that create human tragedy is what grabs people and makes them sit up and do something about it. It’s a long slog through the details to link all the occult stuff, and Tony has ably done so.

        But these victims on camera with their hearts breaking, that moves people.

      • pluvo

        Too much for the general public and would distract from exposing the abuses.

      • At it’s core it is a satanic cult.

        • Mark Foster

          The more I read about Hubbard and his eldest Nibs, the greater is my inclination to agree with that statement. The whole “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” thing in its most manipulative, sadistic form…

    • I thought Mike was going to say how its used to mislead people that it has something to do with religion. Christianity in particular.

      • Chocolate Velvet

        yes, it is a cross, and many folks just assume it is a sign that they some kind of extension of Christian religion. I have known a few people who made that assumption.

        • Yeah, I had a Christian stop at a raid, and he was kinda freaked out when I pointed out that it is a crossed-out cross.

      • scottmercer

        He could have done that pretty quickly, in one sentence or two, in addition to the “eight dynamics” shore story. Maybe he did and they had to edit it out for time.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Thanks for posting this. Sure seems like it matters. A wolf in sheep’s clothing shining bright above the rooftops as a beacon of deception.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    i don’t know, but it isn’t going to stop!

  • MaxSpaceman

    What’s next?

    The children (affected)

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Once you know something, you have a responsibility to do something about it.

  • Qbird

    ok just hold eveything — i have to pee.

    • MaxSpaceman

      perfect! it’s over.

      • Qbird

        whew! brb

  • Observer

    They let it run over a few minutes

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      Hard to avoid. There’s just so much…

      • Observer

        It’s extremely rare in TV

  • Dylan

    Shelly is at my old base CST

    • I’m guessing she’s not living a life of luxury.

      • Baby

        I can’t even imagine the state she is in now.. absolutely tragic.

        • MaxLuvsDaBunk

          if tony’s source was accurate in the shelley sighting, she looks drugged out and as though homeless so disheveled

          • Baby

            And no one deserves to be treated that way Max.. errgh

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Even a velvet cage… Is still a cage.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Well don’t just sit there, go get her!

      No, seriously, I wish it were that simple, but I know it’s not.

  • Leah: there’s nothing wrong with what we’re doing. There was a lot wrong with what we were doing.

  • Baby
  • Vaquera
    • BronxLaurie10

      OT – a West Wing gif is always appreciated.
      Boy, do we need a President Bartlet and Josh Lyman right now. And Toby. And Leo.

      • Vaquera

        And Sam. And CLaudia Jane. And Amy. And Joey.

  • It’s been fun Bunker fam. I’m off to do laundry!

  • She just flat out called out the authorities to do something.
    Not just about Shelly.

    • chukicita

      We can help. Call your elected official. Let them know how you feel.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    SarahDB and madame duran and Joy Lover (Ex-CS) and Newi
    and CV and Baby and Obs for the win and all you other brave bloggers.
    And, Texas – if you get Leah’s heels, I’ll have to raise the damn roof, lady!

    $cientology – in 4 letter word-salad:
    Veil Live Evil

    A special thank you to Tommy “Blue Suede Shoes” Davis
    And Dave – fuck you and the spavined mule you ride on

    Tick Tock

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/95b242a260e317cabd695b28f8d773336ead9f1fcadc7234df1df43ae1a089dd.jpg

    • Vaquera

      Zappos to the rescue!

    • Baby

      Woo Hoo.. another show down.. and what’s better.. More Water Cooler talk tomorrow! This show is on fire!

  • Davka

    Well that was great…..

  • madame duran

    People…I couldn’t type much after the Alex Jentsch story.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I don’t blame you.

  • Newiga

    Definitely worth waking up for. Thank you, Leah, Mike, Paulette, Chris, Karen and Jeff.

    O/T: Tomorrow is the darkest day of the year and I’m definitely feeling it. We get approx. 5 hours of sunlight. The northern part of the country gets ~3 plus hours.

    Iron, Vitamin D and Vitamin C, do your stuff!!

  • EDN/laineybin

    Not long enough!! They could have done another hour, easily.

    ETA: I just meant that I wanted more because it was so interesting, not that they didn’t deliver!!

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      But who could take much more of that?

      • EDN/laineybin

        I hear you. It just went so quickly and there’s still so much to cover.

  • A True Prince

    Open the door for more episodes in the future and you know CO$ has got to be thinking we have to find a way to broadcast our point of view, huh what oh they do but it’s a empty shell, well there you go.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      What do you do if your religion is under massive attack and you happen to own a hundred million dollar multi-media production studio and have virtually unlimited resources to hire as much talent as you like? If you are $cn the bizarre answer seems to be, almost nothing!

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    That hour went by faaaast! *wooosh* Lots of great comments by Leah, Mike and the guests.

    And less than 23 hours until the next episode.

    Going back to bed now. I have the week off from work so I can sleep late ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Qbird

      oh joy! I love sleeeping in.

    • Supper Powers

      Night, love. Thanks for staying up with us.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        I have to watch these episodes live, it’s just such a joy watching scientology getting slapped in the face. G’night.

    • Newiga

      Lucky you! Jag mรฅste arbeta. I’m saving my holidays for later.

      Night night!

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Have a good day at work!

    • gtsix

      Sleep well assman. Pants off, blankets on.

      • Liberated

        Ha ha ….you call him assman too!

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        TY. Pants came off hours ago ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

  • Narapoid

    My Gosh, they are getting to so much red meat—ON AN EXTRA SHOW that it makes me marvel at the other 7 hours (at least).

    Hi GOSA, I’ll bet you are wondering too!

  • Tony Ortega

    Thanks everyone, and good night. We have a major story for the morning, and your proprietor will be laboring to make it as easy to understand as possible. It won’t be easy. Snickersnort!

    • Just don’t use any of those big Scientology words.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Yeah, best to just keep it to acronyms.
        ; )

        • As long as it’s in the Bunker glossary.

        • richelieu jr

          Scientology: SNAFU and FUBAR.

          Richelieu out.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Heh heh heh…Yeah, those are pretty much the only acronyms that apply right now, Cardinal.

      • richelieu jr

        Shorn of the long words, Acronyms and useless perversions of English grammar, the essence of Scientology is easy to sing with the Dragnet theme:

        “Dumb.. dumb-dumb.. dumb… DUMB!”

    • Baby

      Well .. what are you doing here Mr. … you get back to work.. ( Can’t wait.. ) xo

    • Couch_Incident

      I find myself jotting down flow charts sometimes as I read.

    • gtsix

      Gnite Proprietor. Give the doggie a snuggle and the cats.. they’ll take what they want.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      It’s morning somewhere – just release the story now ;-D

    • Gerard Plourde

      I’ll be looking forward to reading over my morning coffee.

    • Chocolate Velvet

      Good night Tony, and thanks for hosting the chat tonight. And cut out that snarky bullshit and get back to work! You tease… ๐Ÿ™‚ โค

      • FredEX2

        …โค๏ธ…

    • LongtimeLurker

      Thanks chief.

    • madame duran

      Is it legalese stuff? I’ll admit my eyes kinda glaze over when stuff like that gets posted (except for Laura DeCrescenzo’s case…I wanna understand every detail!). Thanks for breaking things down for us.

      • Robert Eckert

        Something should happen in Laura’s case soon. If that’s not tomorrow’s story it will be one of these days.

    • Hey, it’s morning. Release the damned thing!

      ROFLMAO. Just thinking of Dave reading that, and freaking out. I would not want to be working close to him. Everyone has failed him. They haven’t shut down Tony. They haven’t shut down Marty – he may not be talking directly about Scientology, but he has never deleted his articles or his books. They couldn’t shut down Alex Gibney or Lawrence Wright.

      Even worse, they haven’t shut down Leah Remini.

      It must be hell to be close to Dave right now.

    • flyonthewall

      Good job! Even a dullard like myself totally got it

  • Aaron Smith-Levin

    Bummed I missed the live blogging. I watched the show on my phone this time instead of in front of my computer and the A&E app won’t allow multitasking during livestream. Bummer!

    • You’re still admired greatly for letting Karen know about Alexander. That was a brave and kind thing to do.

    • Supper Powers

      There’s leftovers, don’t worry.

    • gtsix

      We’ll never forgive you! Good night Aaron and family.

      • Baby

        6! HAHHAHA Aaron I will forgive you.. 6 bares a grudge.. but I’m nice.

        ( just teasing because I know 6 was teasing)

    • Baby

      The Hero Aaron Smith -Levin in the house.. woo hoo.. I’ve told you before how proud I was of you for letting Karen know about Alexander..

      NOW THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS.. XOXOXO F5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/624a96c6192a123867e7f1837e09213056c6054c46c6d3e051f058ead63860f8.gif

  • KellyKels

    The Scientology Twitter acct can’t seem to keep up with deleting all the negative comments they’re getting right now on all their tweets! GO LEAH!!

    • Qbird

      Scientology ‘tweets’??? !

      • KellyKels

        Yes! Verified acct, they have a few. Trying to “educate” the masses… There are also some members who tweet and can get quite nasty!

    • Chee Chalker

      Bastards blocked me months ago
      So much for their confront and shatter

      • KellyKels

        I’m yet to be blocked. I’ve only just started speaking up so we’ll see how long it lasts… Leah Remini has given me strength to not feel scared of them. I was never a member but have been fascinated for many years, to cut a long story short. I’m very against bullies, outspoken and know what it’s like to be vulnerable. My heart goes out to anyone affected by them.

  • Bernie Headley

    Did anyone notice the first three episodes aired just before this new one? It has been four shows in a row!

    • They should just make it a 24 hour anti-Scientology network.

      • Susan B.

        There are decades of material to cover!

      • MaxLuvsDaBunk

        i know of a spare, unused studio where they could film for their new A&E anti-scientology network ….. brand spanking new and never been used

    • Ron Schmidt

      Imagine someone new to the show and the horrors of CO$ who binged watch four hours……yikes

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    I’d like to give a quick shout out to Disqus for not fucking things up tonight. I’m sure it’ll be upside down again by the morning.

  • And I’m Cute, Too

    Must watch this on YouTube! Thanks for the comments everyone!

  • FredEX2

    Karen de la Carriere…defines the very word ‘Grace’. Even in the midst of overwhelming grief and sorrow at the loss of her only child…Alexander. And even tho harassed with such cruelty by Scientology ever since. She is very special to all of us I’m sure of it.

    Although she doesn’t think so…She is an Angel and one of the 1000 points of light that shine in this world.

    Love to both Karen & Jeffrey Augustine. โค๏ธ

    • Baby

      Absolutely agree with you Freddie, but I could not have said it so eloquently.. โค๏ธ

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Karen and Jeffrey–thank you for standing up and telling your story despite all of the cult bullying and the abominable way they handled Alexander’s tragic death. We are all cheering for you. You were fantastic.

    • Yes they are a special pair.

  • That was pretty damn good.
    Moved along. Simple, direct, clear.
    Maybe my favorite so far.

  • Susan B.

    Hey OSA, in cases you missed out on a 90’s sitcom called Seinfeld: https://twitter.com/kellykels_melbs/status/811059655438778368

    • LongtimeLurker

      That is perfect.

    • Baby

      Kelly just joined Bunker today.. Yay

      • Susan B.

        Welcome Kelly!

        • KellyKels

          Thanks! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Susan B.

          Whoa. Double take. I was perusing all SCIOS related tweets and didn’t realize Kelly that was you! : )

    • KellyKels

      Hehe…Thanks Susan ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Chee Chalker

    I have to stop angry tweeting. Came here to cool down.
    Great job by all those featured!
    I’m thinking we should have a Ex-Scientologist calendar
    Leah – Ms. January Mike – Mr February, Chris – Mr. March, etc

    But it will be tasteful because we want people to continue to come to the Bunker for the articles

    • tweet some relevant books from amazon..

      • Chee Chalker

        Ahn. Good idea!
        I like to tweet articles by this SP I know of……he used to be at the Village Voice. Now he is in some sort of Bunker….

        • I know… We should expose him ๐Ÿ™‚ while he is sleeping

    • MaxLuvsDaBunk

      or! ex-scientologist of the day ….. sure are plenty to fill up a daily calendar / with their words of wisdom in having survived and escaped

  • Fantastic show. Leah and Mike did a great job.

    It was nice seeing all those ‘Internet Acquaintances’ on it. They did a great job too.

    As an aside, I decided to rewatch the earlier episodes, and my wife was reading. At first she didn’t pay much attention but in minutes she was staring at the TV horrified. I don’t know how long I’ve been following Scientology, but during the entire time I think my wife thought I was nuts to pay attention to something I’d never been involved in personally. Now she doesn’t. David Miscavige has a new enemy.

    • MaxLuvsDaBunk

      huzzah to that! and you give me hope ~ i’ve oft wondered should i ever be graced to fall in love, how will a companion ever be cool with all the out there stuff that i find fascinating and important //// you’ve given me much needed assurance that so much is possible

      • Baby

        Mac and I have a pact.. He doesn’t ask me about Scientology and I don’t ask him about fishing.

        • MaxLuvsDaBunk

          oh baby you give me such rich laughs ….. and reminders that there are options afterall

          • Baby

            Well, then my work here is done.. smooches..

            • MaxLuvsDaBunk

              yay i even got smooches / smooches back, daaaahling

            • Baby

              Oh Max if you ever need a smooch you know where to find me.. xo

            • MaxLuvsDaBunk

              oh gosh, baby ~ so nurturing to receive that gifting from you ///// i adored you before howdycon, reading your comments, and then when you went on the livestream and i saw how absolutely adorable and funny you are, i more deeply became your huge admirer / tee hee i remember when you joked to tony that you don’t read his articles (when he teased he doesn’t read your comments) such a delight you are

        • Baby

          Wait..

          I don’t tell him anything about Scientology and he doesn’t tell me anything about his fishing.. fixed.

  • It’s a “New World Order” David Miscavige! Prepare for the Drones

  • chukicita

    Mr. Chuk watched tonight and didn’t fall asleep. Instead, I watched him slowly getting what I call “Sicilian face.”

    GO Leah and Mike and bare-faced Jeffrey and sweet Karen and sense-making Chris and Paulette, the epitome of grace!

    And TELL YOUR STORIES people. It’s time. Don’t let this organization hurt anyone else.

  • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

    I just finished watching the AWESOME episode with Karen & Jeffrey, Chris and Paulette!! WOW……you guys knocked it out of the park. Leah & Mike I am eternally grateful for what you are doing, you are giving all of us a voice against this cruel group.

    • gtsix

      And your voice is ringing out loud. Thank you Lois, for your addition to the history. May your son soon choose love of family over everything else. Whatever one chooses to believe, mother father and brother just want family together.

    • It really is building the momentum. Scientology has no defense against the truth.

    • aurora50

      Where I am on the West Coast, they ran all the previous episodes before tonight’s show…that’s a clear declaration from A&E of their investment in the project.
      I am concerned that Karen seemed ill…?

      • FredEX2

        She’s been caused so many needless losses and so much terrible suffering by Scientology. It affects someone so much just dealing with this cult…it does take a toll on your health. But that spark of light shines thru. It looks like she has a halo surrounding her to me. โค๏ธ

  • Baby
    • The happiest they’ve been in ages.

      • Baby

        hahahhaha .. This is my absolute favorite picture.. You talk about a picture saying 1,000 words.. this is 1,000 x 47 ..

        • Susan B.

          Awesome pic. Looks like it could be from a sitcom or mockumentary.

      • Baby

        love to Willie.. I know the holidays are hard on you guys.. know that you can come to the Bunker anytime.. Scream, Vent, Cry, .. Whatever you need from us we will give you..

        Oh and laugh.. that is a given.. xoxo love Baby

        • Thank you Baby. You’re a good friend.

      • they are all thinking – those stupid Wog’s don’t even deserve it!

    • JaxNGold

      Talk about looking miserable….

      Damn.

      • stillgrace2

        … and defensive! Maybe they’re hungry.

    • FredEX2

      If that pic doesn’t just about say it all right about now! HA! CoS has definitely lost their way to happiness.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Totally hilarious! They all look like they just got told by DM that their thetans CAN die and, even worse, if they don’t get their stats up someone’s thetan WILL die ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Graham

      They need to be looking for the Way to the Exit. Escape NOW or go down with the ship!

  • chukicita

    Sweet dreams, all.

    I’m off to sleep while Tony works to crank out tomorrow’s story. Sugarplums dancing in my head.

  • littlefish

    Totally unrelated to the content, but Leah has some great taste in MCM furniture. GOOD CHAIR, GIRL. GOOD CHAIR.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Vaquera and I were salivating over her shoes…mercy!

  • LongtimeLurker

    Interested2 if you wander through here this morning (your time) could you reply to one of my old comments so I can give you that thing* we discussed?

    I haven’t seen you comment for a couple of days, didn’t want you to think I’d forgotten.

    *It’s a map OSA.

    To the hidden volcano base where Big Pharma and the Evil Psychesโ„ข manufacture the special child drugs that I then personally use to drug children while they sleep.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I expect you to stroke your hairless cat when you say that.

      • LongtimeLurker

        I would, but I haven’t seen him since this morning when he mauled my albino henchman and then ran under the couch.

        • you shave your cat?

          • LongtimeLurker

            God no, that’s gross.

            The albino does it.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              That thread did not go where I expected it to, which is the best part.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Frankly, I was surprised too.

            • ๐Ÿ™‚

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              On that note, I’m signing off for bed. *checks to see if both kitties are fully furred still*

            • We prefer “Henchperson with Albinism.”

            • LongtimeLurker

              I should have known that.

              This is the whole “Don’t call them a hell-spawned zombie army boss, they prefer Differently-Animated Undead-Americans” fiasco all over again.

              I apologize.

            • Robert Eckert

              “melanically challenged”

            • Ha! When people call others “thin skinned” I always correct them with “dermally challenged Americans.”

      • Chewkacca
    • Before or after Hillary chops them up?

      • LongtimeLurker

        I get paid either way.

        • Liberated

          What’s all this talk about people getting checks from big pharma, I live in a huge big pharma town and I’ve never received a dime from those buggers.
          I drive by the house or should I say “compound” that Prozac built everyday, and what do I have to show for it?
          Nothing!
          I don’t get no respect…man.

          • LongtimeLurker

            I’m sure this is simply an oversight.

            A huge SP like you? The checks should be rolling in.

            I’ll go down to the accounting dungeon and beat the hell out of some of the CPA-slaves until they figure this out.

            • Liberated

              Thanks man…..I knew I could count on you.
              Sooner rather than later would be best…..spending too much for Christmas?

              I still can’t get over Christmas in warm weather, but that’s totally normal for you.
              It’s so freakin cold here man, it’s crazy….below zero last night.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Up in Queensland I had Christmas days that were 105ยฐ and up (on your scale).

              It’s hell if you’re the poor schmuck dressed as Santa.

              A lot of people do the whole roast thing, but some have adjusted for the weather, so more seafood and stuff.

              I like both, but I’ve had a few that were all lobsters and prawns and oysters and nice white wines. Those are pretty great.

  • Newiga

    Good night y’all! I’m off to work. See you later!

  • littlefish

    I’m watching my DVR’d version tonight. Mike was just speaking about how “it’s not that they believe crazy stuff, it’s that they do crazy stuff.”

    Last week I went to a charity event with my best friend and met another of her friends who grew up in Clearwater. She attended a private middle school and told a story about how she and a friend did a group project on religions and they chose Scio. This is totally heresay, but she seemed pretty sincere/genuine, but she said that they attempted to interview people at one of the locations there (she couldn’t remember which one) and were shoo’d out very quickly. She said after the fact her parents noticed that they were being followed throughout the rest of the day and her parents thought they were watching their house for a few weeks after. She said it wasn’t til she was in in her 20s that her parents told her about being followed. We were trying to narrow down the timeline and it sounds like it happened right in the Lisa McPhereson window, maybe in the spring after Lisa’s death.

    It was really interesting to hear a perspective about SCIO from a person who grew up in the area and had direct experience with them.

    • No matter how people look at Scientology, it’s a really interesting phenomenon, that is getting an audience who is going to peek a’ boo over their fence and create unwanted attention!

  • PickAnotherID

    Heard coming from ‘Big Blue’ after Leah’s AMA segment aired: (f5)

    https://images.gr-assets.com/hostedimages/1380222758ra/562401.gif

    • KellyKels

      I’m picturing Miscavige pacing furiously back and forth with his arms crossed haha

      • FredEX2

        Right about now he’s probably shaking as he is hiding under his desk in his expensive shoes and pompadour and whimpering to himself as he drinks his favorite liqueur and wonders who he can blame for all this. He’s also probably planning his great escape with bags of IAS money.

  • aurora50

    Watching on the West Coast…

    question: is it known who is directing how often those statements from the ‘cherch’ are inserted into the show?
    They only reinforce how stupid the COS is!

  • Stunning episode. Leah and Mike and their guests held precious little back. It seems like there must be nothing left of Miscavige but a slight smear where he used to sit. I still can’t believe I’m hearing the things we’ve all talked about for so many years being said so eloquently by two very powerful exes. It almost makes up for the awfulness of the rest of the world news today. I said “almost.”

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Yes, on the west coast we just finished, so powerful. I binge rewatched the first three episodes beforehand too.

      • Glen

        I’m also on the west coast and also just finished watching. Wow. Leah is eloquent and powerful. The segment with Paulette Cooper was so strong. I was going to write more here but I am feeling the need to just take a little time to absorb this highly effective call to action.

    • BronxLaurie10

      I feel like finally, FINALLY the info is getting out there to the masses. Members of my family, who used to chuckle at my Scientology “obsession”, have watched the show and now they’re like “OH! I get it now.”
      My daughter and sister-in-law can’t get enough of this show.

      I keep telling them, the more you hear, the worse it gets.

      • I know. I have a certain brother in-law who I just stopped bringing up “my crazy theories” around even though my sister was always game for the latest on Scientology. Guess who dropped me an “okay I guess you weren’t so crazy after all” note? If justice and reuniting families is the caek, and the community created by The Bunker is the frosting, then being right is the shaved, artisanal chocolate curls on top. Incidental, but delicious.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    From what Leah said at the end of tonight’s epidode, season 2 of Aftermath will be the stories of the children who were abused in the CO$, is that right?

    • Wait, did she confirm there’s going to be a season 2?

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        It sounded like it. She said that is what she is going to do next, focus on the kids hurt by the cult. Unless she means the later shows this season but they are probably in the can already. I could be wrong but didn’t Derek say he had something coming up that might make him a target. And Nora Crest has been in contact with Leah too. There’s two episode subjects right there.

  • Dave Reams

    … and one day I may be unmasked as the hand of a Russian hacker who had posted entries from Dave Miscavige’s own solo auditing folders … resplendent in their self loathing and self degradation. : )

    • Well there’s a thought: where are Miscavige’s auditing folders?

      • Probably pretty old and musty. He’s hasn’t been on the cans in decades.

        • My guess is long-ago shredded.

      • dungeon master

        Probably dust in the wind and blown half way around the world.

  • Racnad

    Hey! My Tivo didn’t record this. The guide shows reruns of previous episodes last night, and only the “regular” episodes in the future. When is this coming on again?

  • j238

    Looks like the show is available online w/o a cable deal! http://www.aetv.com/shows/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath/season-1