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Oh look, Scientology started a blog, and it already won an award

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Rod Keller is back, keeping an eye on Scientology’s social media effort and front groups. This week, he’s got another hot one…

In September, Scientology launched a new website, ScientologyReligion.org, “A Comprehensive Overview of the Background, Theology and Religious Practice of The Scientology Religion.” Its purpose is to “safepoint” Scientology, a policy created by founder L. Ron Hubbard to garner allies that would create a safe space for expansion, to protect the organization against prosecution or government restrictions.

The new website features numerous documents arguing that Scientology is a legitimate religion, and that its “religious freedom” is threatened. The site also has a blog. One of the recent entries celebrates President Obama signing the International Religious Freedom Act into law, as predicted in last Sunday’s article.

 
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One of the videos on the site is an interview with Rabbi Michael Shevack, an author, university professor, interfaith organizer and founder of the Association for Universal Judaism. “This church has spread, in centers and churches, in fifty something years, faster than Christendom,” he says in the video. “It’s an amazing phenomenon that could never have taken place without the technologies that we have. It’s just a phenomenon. I think honestly all good social movements need to learn from the Church of Scientology and how they communicate.”

 
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I spoke with Rabbi Shevack this week to ask him about the video. He first came into contact with Scientology through his interfaith activities in New York. “I really only have experience with the New York church, I don’t know anything about the other locations. I began working with them about 12 years ago because I was working with a Muslim community that is connected with the Focolare movement of the Catholic Church.” Focolare, also known as “Opera di Maria” is a group that promotes universal brotherhood among followers of all religions. “Through them I began working with Rev. Carmichael. He was very involved in inter-religious work, and he was very helpful during the 9/11 crisis and with problems in Haiti. Many religious leaders began looking at them differently at that time, because they were so involved in issues that were important to them.”

 
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John Carmichael was a member of Scientology’s secret police, the Office of Special Affairs, or OSA. In addition to public relations they are responsible for investigating and neutralizing critics of Scientology. He’s also known for reacting to the 2008 Anonymous protests outside the NY org in an unconventional way.

A 2010 article by Gawker described Scientology’s relief efforts in Haiti as inept and irresponsible. The Guardian reported “The group, which critics say is a cult peddling quack treatments, has received a mixed reaction to the light ‘touching,’ through clothing and bandages, of fractures and infection. One US doctor, who declined to be named, said ‘I didn’t know touching could heal gangrene’.”

 
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It was through Carmichael that Rabbi Shevack met Dr. Mary Shuttleworth, the Executive Director of Youth for Human Rights, and has attended the summit held annually at the United Nations building. “She’s lovely. They asked me to speak at the United Nations event. The kids that participate are not all Scientologists, they are marvelous. I wish it were expanded and I think itΒ’s great. I haven’t dealt with the other churches, but at least the New York church is a bona-fide church. The black Muslim community that I work with is in Harlem, and so they invited me to the opening of the new church there, and that’s where the interview took place. My experience has not been with other churches, just the one in New York.”

 
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He says he’s heard of allegations of human rights abuses by Scientology, but he does not take them seriously. “If it’s true, it disturbs me, but I have no personal experience with that. The church in New York is filled with some extraordinary people. I did see the movie Going Clear. I thought it was very well done. If it’s true, I have room for plenty of concern. If it’s not true, then they minimally have a terrible PR problem. If I were to take the rumors and gossip of all these churches seriously, whether it’s Scientology, Muslim groups, Jewish groups, I would not accomplish my goal. My approach is to deal with the good in all these groups. All of them have difficulties because there is no such thing as a religion that isn’t human. There is good that is done, the human rights work is good, the interreligious work is good.”

 
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The Scientology Religion site has just been been named one of the top 50 religious blogs by Feedspot.com, coming in at #29.

 
— Rod Keller

 
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Page Six goes long on Tom’s move to Clearwater

We broke the news recently that Tom Cruise is the buyer of a wildly luxurious double-level penthouse being built right smack in the middle of Scientology’s spiritual mecca, the “Flag Land Base” in Clearwater, Florida, by a millionaire Mexican Scientologist developer, Moises Agami, whose family has donated at least $10 million in recent years to the church. We’ve floated the theory that with PAC Base in Los Angeles struggling, as documented by Mike Rinder, Scientology leader David Miscavige seems to be making something of a consolidation in Clearwater, perhaps to reflect that Scientology is nearing its endgame.

Today, Page Six goes big with that notion in a well done and lengthy story by Michael Kaplan. The New York Post piece not only goes over Tom’s plans, but Kaplan gets input from Rinder, Tom DeVocht, and Jenna Miscavige Hill.

We’re really glad to see one of our pieces turn into something larger. Now, if some big media companies would do the same for our Shelly Miscavige sighting!

 
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Go here to start making your plans.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on December 18, 2016 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback, Kindle, and audiobook versions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • nottrue
    • jazzlover

      This pains me. Ironically, he just did a set of shows with that other (ex) cultie, John McLaughlin – which means that Chick’s wife, Gayle Moran (who used to be Johnny’s woman when she was a member of Mahavishnu Orchestra) is a tried and true cult-hopper.

  • Sherbet

    I give the Rabbi a tip o’ the yarmulka for having watched “Going Clear” and admitting it was good. But that’s about it.

    • I bet he’s vague if asked for specific details about it.

      • Draco

        That’s what I thought. Did he even notice that it was not complimentary towards his BFFs? Or that scn tried to drown it with their hates sites and letters?

  • stillgrace2

    Rabbi? You need to do some extensive reading and video viewing. Allow yourself to fall into a couple of rabbit holes. You are coming across as uneducated or lazy or naive or gullible or all of the above. Don’t feel bad. It happens. Do your homework and come forward after and let us know what you think.

    OT: I just saw a new-for-me trailer for Leah’s show. Claire Headley saying in tears “Some wounds just can’t be healed.” Big emotional punch to the chest. I may be done for the day.

    I have the 7 minute preview of ‘Episode 4: A Leader Emerges’ set up to record tonight. Re-reading Nancy Many’s story. I feel a shift happening in the anti-scientology community. Part of it is some major expansion.
    Something’s brewing. It’s a good thing.

      • stillgrace2

        That’s the one! : )

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      What’s needed here is the Modified Ludovico Technique. Tape him to a chair with his eyes taped open, make him watch the entire 8 episode program plus the bonus episode.

      I like tape.

      • stillgrace2

        Ha. And I thought I was being bossy. You win, although we all know the bunker does not support or condone violence or other crimes.

        • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

          Google ‘Ludovico technique.’ It’s from a movie fer chrissake. A Clockwork Orange, to be specific.

          • stillgrace2

            I watched it.

          • earthmom1960

            Great movie and excellent pick up on an obscurity…..

            • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

              Also used on the show ‘Archer’ by Dr. Krieger to discourage a guy from marrying Archer’s mother. I wondered how many people caught that, you know? My youthful memes have become distant and obscure for today’s young hominids on the go.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      it’s even WORSE for this rabbi because his ENTIRE BEING is supposed to be knowledgeable about the human condition, helping and healing humans, to be a figure of religious holiness, morality and so on!..and YET he says he ACTUALLY WATCHED GOING CLEAR? AND HAS “HEARD” STORIES about this cult, but still, i repeat STILL SHILLS FOR THEM? COME ON! THAT DEFIES COMMON SENSE AND BELIEF!…

  • Observer
    • John Prince

      ..”there’s no place Like Home..there’s noplace Like Homepage. .” That’s what travolta, cruise &Co. keep saying, but the Sky is Falling!

  • Vaquera

    Imma keep posting them as I find them. Apologies if you weary of seeing my avi.

    Second from the left is Kaye Champagne, CEO of CoS front group ‘The Freedom Group.’ f5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/332db4ecce946022dfc6da4dbdf12dfbd55dfc039842f23a87f807e1733d0b18.jpg

    Kaye was employing her OT8 powers over time on her way to LA. f5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c255ce5b30660ef126ed89c101fa8c38e62d7bada38f9cc8f75ea52fa6db4daa.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      2nd from the right is a squirrel buster that Monique confronted

      • Anna?

        • Supper Powers
          • LongtimeLurker

            Nice sneer lady.

            • stillgrace2

              She’s just really trying to ‘make it go right’. She has to write a report after all.

            • Supper Powers

              Hold on. I’ll get you a date with her.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Thanks!

              I got your last email, will reply when it’s not 6:25am and/or after first coffee.

          • Observer

            Scientology helps people. Let her tell you how.

        • stillgrace2

          She’s the one that rang Monique’s doorbell while Marty was out of town. She confronted her at her front door.

        • flyonthewall
          • Qbird

            ok.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Paddock by name, haddock by nature.

            …needs work…

            • Graham

              Paddock by name, pain in the ass by nature. There; fixed it for ya πŸ˜‰

      • Vaquera

        Nice, fly. I was trying to remember.

      • Sherbet

        I thought that might be Anna from Around Here.

      • Draco

        Thanks – I couldn’t remember where I knew her from.

      • Elegant Mess

        Ohhhhh! The front porch lurker. Good eye(s), Fly!

    • Supper Powers

      Does she not understand how math, geography and time work?

    • Observer

      Don’t forget her most important tile: Rug Empress

      • Supper Powers

        Sounds like an 80s porn title.

        • flyonthewall

          oh yeah that reminds me, brb

          • Observer

            noooooooooooooo

            • Qbird

              Yeeeeeeeeeesssss! I can’t wait. πŸ˜›

          • Supper Powers

            No no no no no.

        • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

          Kaye Champagne could be a good stripper name, along with Lily Porsche and Candy Diamond.

    • Vaquera

      Kaye Alice Daly on the far left.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Please keep posting, we love them.

    • Qbird

      so everyone on that flight is OT?!

      • Observer

        And it only cost everyone but her the price of the ticket.

    • Harmless Weirdo

      Al those OT powers, and you’re still stuck flying in Coach? I am not impressed.

    • pkatz

      Lyle Roland in the center.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Isn’t the fourth one from the left that strange, aggressive little woman who showed up at Monique’s door when Marty was away that time?

      ETA: Nevermind, looks like that was already noted below.

  • Vaquera

    COB has no interest in Texas?
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/54c4df7eaee784481724ef9b8f6ec9548cf15a7423532b585eec891c32fb958c.jpg f5

    add: That t-shirt is going on my Xmas list

    • flyonthewall

      The South Shall Attest Again

      • gtsix

        Haahaahaa, no. (insert grumpy cat image)

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Texas – a country? Scilons just don’t want anything to do with wog geography, do they.

      • Draco

        It’s their geography – like the Western US is a continent, as is the Eastern US. Oh – and Australia, NZ and the far east like Japan, Taiwan, China, Indonesia etc…all one continent.

      • Vaquera

        They’re using OT MESTy time abilities. Texas was an independent sovereign country from 1836-1846,

        • flyonthewall

          jinx

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Keeping the dream alive. Texas is after all larger than a lot of other countries.

          • LongtimeLurker

            4 (5?) of our 6 states are larger than Texas, one of them by almost 4X.

            No one ever talks about that.

          • It’s even bigger and more populous than Greater Toronto! (Larger than two states, more populous than 33.)

      • flyonthewall

        Texas was an independent country for a short time, it’s a pride thing rooted in history for them

  • Out and about

    When I asked the ED of our CHERCH if there would be a collection for Karen Black to help with her medical care, I got a shrug and a head shake like who cares! It’s refreshing to have Robert Eckert mention his favorite teacher. Lives dont matter in Scientology once the money is gone. Sorry for your loss R E.

  • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

    The defense always seems to be, “I have no personal experience with that.”
    Call L. Ron Hubbard a hack, or Scientology a dangerous, predatory cult, and the rabbi will soon learn all about Scientology’s abuses. Piece o caek!

    Also, I bet this rabbi never saw the video of the most reverend Carmichael calling a protester a pussy. Such a lovely man, so religious and cultured!

    • Draco

      Somebody tweeted the link to him :)))

    • Tracy Schmitz

      how could i have known ANYTHING? i mean how could i or anyone know anything before the internet was created!… biggest lamest lie and excuse ever!…

  • Observer

    John Carmichael is apparently Gary Busey’s long-lost brother

  • nunyabidnes

    So, he won’t believe that anything he doesn’t personally experience doesn’t exist? So, he doesn’t believe in murder because he is (obviously) not a victim? That’s just being deliberately obtuse for political spin. What a loser.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      why its’ reminescent of something i once read somewhere before “what’s true, is what’s true for you”.. where oh where could i have read that delusional ridiculousness before?…

  • sizzle8

    The Rabbi should read a copy of LRH’s Affirmations.

  • Observer
  • Jeb Burton

    Hey DM, can you please do your end game in L.A.?

  • Steve Presse

    If I understand correctly, I see that he is a adjunct professor (someone with a loose affiliation with a school, i.e. who may have emailed a friend in the department and asked to be listed on the website).
    It’s perhaps misleading to call him a “university professor”. But maybe my research is not thorough enough.

    Either way, I think perhaps more anger should be focused on parents raising their children in this — given all the information known online — rather than on someone, like Shevack, keen on adding job titles and getting interviews…

    • ExCult.Jan

      His name does not appear on their adjunct, or any other professorial staff, list.

      • Steve Presse

        Yet another critical red flag.

  • mockingbird

    Good plausible deniability filled day Bunkeroos. The Rabbi is unfortunately giving the benefit of the doubt to the wrong group in my opinion. If he sincerely thinks Scientology is good he is being duped and if he knows they are likely or definitely a harmful group that is far worse. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and accept that maybe he doesn’t know how bad Scientology really is.

    The old “I never saw the evil acts you are accused of” story. It gets harder to accept the more evidence mounts of the crimes and abuses Scientology routinely commits and has never stopped committing. From reviews by scientists and doctors and academics of Dianetics in the early fifties to the Anderson Report and many other reports to the statements by dozens of judges on Scientology to court cases like Snow White and Hubbard’s conviction for fraud to many, many other examples Scientology is well established as a harmful organization.

    Now it’s very easy to find strong evidence Scientology is something no one should support, but you have to look to find it and you have to be willing to consider the evidence without bias.

    It’s a hard point to make it to for some. It took me twenty five years to get there.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      i did a facebook search on this rabbi and came up with alot of “groups” that he speaks for or has spoken for or involved with including something called “the ordinary heroes journey” (?)… when i posted that the rabbi is shilling for scientology, i got a response saying they do not know anything about scientology (?) i replied back they should then and then i just about a hour ago got another response from them, that is vague and even creepy in their words? they sound brainwashed/cult like in themselves?! i’m thinking something is very amiss with them down below i have copied and pasted my posted comments and their replies! you tell me what you think!…

      tracy schmitz: the rabbi shills for the destructive abusive scam that is scientology and WILLINGLY does not look, listen or hear about it! head in the sand! slap in the face of everyone this cult has hurt and destroyed…

      The Ordinary Heroes Journey
      The Ordinary Heroes Journey: I am so sorry you feel hurt by scientology. I have no knowledge of scientology at all. I assure you this radio interview is about peacemaking and love Tracy Schmitz

      Tracy Schmitz: maybe then YOU SHOULD look into scientology as should the rabbi!… to NOT have ANY knowledge of scientology nowadays? in 2016 about to be 2017? really? the mountain of information out there available in so many forms? books, articles, websites, news reports, documentaries,the current docuseries on A & E every tuesday night., and on and on! look, listen, hear the truth is out there!…. your about peacemaking and love, but you ALSO NEED to be about seeing the evil and abuse in the world too and standing up against it and declaring it! and those it hurts and abuses and destroys!

      The Ordinary Heroes Journey: I’m so sorry you’re afraid. Give yourself Love and Compassion Tracy. There’s nothing to be afraid of, except fear

      • mockingbird

        Oh boy. I don’t know what to think about this.

        • Tracy Schmitz

          i wrote back that i’m NOT afraid of anything, but that i do have courage to speak out and do what i can against scientology, and that perhaps THEY should have courage and integrity and decency to do so as well since part of peacemaking and loving all is to also acknowledge and do what they can to stop what is preventing this in any way in any form and that includes scientology… their response? was no words but simply a red heart”?….they do sound and react “cultish” i must say..

  • iampissed

    If I might ask a favor from my friends in the bunker. If you could say around 3pm west coast USA or so,
    Can I get you to softly say “Richard go in Light, Love and happiness”….Thanks, I’m going to beat up
    some furniture now.

    • Observer

      Oh, no…I am so sorry

    • Robert Eckert

      We all send you loving support at this hard time.

    • On it.

      Sorry, man. My condolences.

    • Hugs.

    • lori banister

      I am so sorry. I was pullingfor him all week. Blessings to you and yourfamily.

    • Draco

      Love to you…so sorry πŸ™

    • Supper Powers

      I hope that you find peace and gratitude in the final moments.

    • LongtimeLurker

      So sorry iam.

      You had each other, hold onto that.

      (iam’s request will fall at 11pm for the UK Bunker and 7am for ‘sup and Ella if they’re up)

    • Juicer77

      Of course.

      • Qbird

        inaazakonenjige.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Yes, we will.

    • Frodis73

      Sending you hugs i am. I am so sorry.

    • John Prince

      β˜†R.I.Pβ˜†

    • Elegant Mess

      I set an alarm to remind me to do just that. May peace and serenity surround you and Your’s today. *tearful hugs*

    • chukicita

      He walks on in beauty without pain now.

      *mama panther hugs*

    • beauty for ashes

      Hugs hugs hugs. Crap. I will absolutely do this. Sending you so much love and support. So verklempt, heart is so heavy for you. Remember ~ the good tissues are absolutely necessary.

      softly say “Richard go in Light, Love and happiness”…. Done my friend. <3 <3 <3

    • Robert Eckert

      Richard, go in Light, Love, and Happiness…

    • ExCult.Jan

      Much light, love, and happiness from The Bunker family.

    • Ann B Watson

      I sent your wish for him.🌌

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      So sorry Iam! Sending love, comfort and peace your direction! Take care and I hope you have some
      Loved ones physically there. Know that you’ve got all of us virtually there & thinking of you.

  • know what grinds my gears more than Scientologists defending their own religion?

    non-Scientologists attempting to defend something they refuse to educate themselves about when the mountains of factual information are so easy to find.

    • Observer

      At least Scientologists have an excuse.

    • dagobarbz, fine Italian shoes

      Gotta wonder what the rabbi got in exchange for his ignorant support of this totalitarian cult…

      • Graham

        An inflated sense of his own importance? Just a guess….

    • ExCult.Jan

      Follow the money.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      tell me about it, as i and my brother are YOUTUBE warriors and i lost track long, long ago of the people who feel the need to post comments on something they have no idea about and don’t want to know about or care to know about even when you (meaning me) give them information! so why feel the need to post anything on a video about scientology? no, i can spot a cultie and a osa from a mile away.. these are truly non-culties who are shockingly ignorant and don’t want to be informed…i continue to provide information though, hoping i get thru to some of them! you know the usual “all religions are bad” “all religions do bad stuff” “all religions are made up so they are all full of it are all frauds” “all religions are cults” “but what about so and so religion they do much worse stuff” even when you post it’s NOT NECESSARILY what scientologists believe in, but how they are run and act, you STILL STILL get people who feel the need to post this inane simplistic nonsense!…

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
      • LongtimeLurker

        JAW…not even fooling himself anymore.

      • Supper Powers

        #trainwreck #dumbass

        • Qbird

          #delusionisfun!

      • Mark Foster

        Notice how much larger and stinkier and visible the scientology turd is tks to Leah Remini?
        #sewage disposal #free flushing #public service

      • Sherbet

        Tell me he’s not serious.

      • It is bait. Their mission is to document online harassment. We should post documents in their face instead. Like OT materials and excerpts from Ron’s affirmations. Stuff like that would terrify them and they would have nothing against it, to show in upcoming legislation attempts. Notice that those “whois” accounts don’t have any followers but us, like 12 to 25. Don’t forget this dude is getting paid!

      • jazzlover

        Obviously he doesn’t get that there are 2 kinds of “topical”. It’s like celebrating that a serial killer is being talked about, because, hey, he’s in the news every day. Like Trump, JAW sees any kind of mention as a good thing.

        • Frodis73

          Yes, he is drain bamaged! πŸ˜‰

          • jazzlover

            Can’t figure out who’s twittier, he or Germa.

            • madame duran

              When she has the word “twit” as part of her Twitter handle, I think the answer is clear.
              (Gemma is a twit! Finally, truth in advertising!!)

            • jazzlover

              I suppose, but he makes quite the case as well πŸ™‚

            • madame duran

              This is why the two of them are meant for each other.

            • jazzlover

              Bouncing the same ideas off of one another constantly has gotta hurt πŸ˜‰

        • Techie

          “Any publicity is good publicity” and “If it gets your name in the New York Times it is a success.” Both examples of Hubbard’s way of thinking. After all, look at all the new customers who signed up with Bernie Madoff after he got indicted! For the Win.

          • jazzlover

            LOL.

      • madame duran

        Posting for old times sake. It never gets old. NEVER.
        https://twitter.com/madameduran/status/804391817152184320

        This one’s a little more recent…
        https://twitter.com/madameduran/status/808860109149454336

        I know OSA won’t be copying those tweets to send to David Miscavige anytime soon.
        JAW is such a dweeb.
        **edited to add full context of conversation. JAW hasn’t engaged with me since and sends his woman to do the confronting instead. COWARD!!**

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        BDF Mike Rinder gets better Twitter stats than John Axlehead only because Rinder uses secret OTIII implant pictures such as “Lady Justice” in his tweets.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        “Barkeep, another round of foot bullets for my $cilon friends here!”

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      Yea, Scientology uses the disavowed ex members for inadvertent advertising to people who can’t put two and two together (admitedly I fell for Scientology for exactly this reason, my admitted gullible hope of soul-flying and Scienotlogy must just be a religious group due to the soul powers improvement human tradition).

      What a mess of human history allowed continued ignorance really, that lets people get suckered into Scientology.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IQQE04_TCM

      • Observer

        “Scienotlogy” is the most perfect typo EVER.

        • ExCult.Jan

          Oh, to be able to hack Scienotlogy’s universal auto-spell-correct-then-lock-it software.

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          “It’s official!”

          Scienotlogy doesn’t work!

        • Harpoona Frittata

          When the truth is stranger than dyslexia!

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Chuck, everyone else in Scientology are soul flying astronauts who can leave their bodies at will. You were obviously an NCG (No Case Gain) with O/W’s. That’s why you never attained the Super Powers everyone else attained. The C/S here is for you to do A-E, reapply for admission to the group, and then redo your entire Bridge at Flag at your expense.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a40d4a9910eb2653b952a84d1e8cafdc9b78dc83bfc46b3b96b7e1bbe4fda768.jpg

        • Techie

          You can do your A to E with Mike Ellis, if you can get into his office while he is in there, I am going to do A&E on Monday and Tuesday instead. Cheaper, faster and more enlightening. Plus, Leah Remini and Paulette Cooper!

          • chukicita

            This should be the tag line.

          • Brilliant! Yes, we SP’s should all be doing A&E.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            It really is some kind of synchronistic alignment in the Marcab Confederacy’s stars that $cilons who watch A&E will be required to do their A-E steps to get right with Xenu, isn’t it?

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          Only when you get out of Scientology and get some adult education, do you realize that going down in Scientology’s eyes is really going up.

          And after reading Lawrence Wright’s book’s final page I realized Scientology has some massive editing shortening of the Hubbard “Bridge.”

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Hilarious, thanks for that! I actually really liked how the $cn official who’d been looking on from a safe distance rolled with the joke!

        • Sherbet

          And that was just before she called the police.

    • PickAnotherID
      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        That must be in London. I recognize that structure as being just across the street from the org.

  • I am so stunned by this Rabbi’s remarks I just sent him this email. I think it is important we all approach ANY and ALL who get lured by this cult into their front groups to share with them truth. But I also wonder, does Scientology give money to the Rabbis organization or others to buy their way into good graces?

    Dearest Rabbi,

    I am filled with nausea reading your remarks about the “Church” of Scientology. As a Jew who grew up in New York I am aghast you would say anything supportive about the “Church” of Scientology. This is a hate group built on the same premise of the Nazi party which attacks any opposition by trying to destroy them directly while ripping their family apart.

    Yes, its true what you saw in the Going Clear video..Oh how I wish it wasn’t. Yet in fact it is MUCH worse than they portrayed. I hope you are watching the A & E docu-series with Leah Remini to see inside even further. And especially the show airing tomorrow night on Paulette Cooper, a holocaust survivor who was framed by the church and nearly put in jail. Luckily,just before a grand jury appearance, the FBI found proof the Church of Scientology had used their staff to get her falsely accused of sending the church bomb threats and she was exonerated. Is this an organization you would support? And THIS was only the tip of the iceberg as they were also found guilty by the FBI of infiltrating a dozen government agencies to destroy their opposition!

    Please dearest Rebi, I know their front groups on Human Rights and other areas can be very convincing. But thats part of their con…pretend to take the high road in all pubic affairs while disconnecting families and engaging in their doctrine as Hubbard tells then to ‘destroy anyone who dares to raise their voice against against us. Criticism of us in any way is a crime we must not tolerate.’

    Now why do i send this to you? I hope you will review a couple a short videos I made about it. I challenge you to watch them and then rethink your stand as they are using you to lure others into their grasp

    Please Rabbi, don’t cause me to lose the one plank of support I thought I could always count on, the support of the religion of my birth and the ones I could relate to best about what it is like to be persecuted.

    https://youtu.be/QSYlY_dyshw

    https://youtu.be/0xfrehGq-wI

    I would be honored if you would answer me and please if you watch these and think that I am somehow missing the mark in my beliefs, I would welcome your comments to find a better way to deal with this.

    Shalom,

    Brian

    Brian J. Sheen Ph.D.
    http://www.7KeysforAttentionDevelopment.com
    http://www.BrianSheenpublications.com

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Superb point about Paulette; an excellent letter. Please let us know if you hear back from the Rabbi.

    • ExCult.Jan

      A billion up votes, Brian!!

      • Thanks…I appreciate your support..the support for freedom and justice from this hate group!

    • chukicita

      Great letter! I hope you will share any reply.

    • Liberated

      I think the dear Rebi needs to see before and after pics of Lisa McPherson, and then discuss how the church truly cares about “human rights”.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      So well said! Undoing the safe pointing that the cult has been able to effect through its many front groups is an excellent way to “strike an effective blow” against this truly dangerous and abusive group that seems to revel in posing as exactly what it’s not.

      Fortunately, there are just so many first-hand accounts of folks whose lives have been destroyed and families torn apart available that “danger pointing” this killer cult has never been easier. All of them come across as credible, sincere and often times, very moving. Nora Crest’s recent vid on why you can’t be gay and be in $cn is an excellent recent example that, all by itself, conveys just how diabolically evil this cult of hate and mind control truly is.

      • Yes..I love your term “danger pointing”..right on! This is what I am committed to doing. I wish I had someone to help me who lived in Clearwater as i have a special project to do even more!

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Living right in the heart of $cilonville you should have more opportunities for activism than almost anywhere on earth! Love your videos. They’re very creative and engaging! There are just so many excellent resources on the internet these days and your work is some of the best.

          • Thank you,you are very kind. I have begun work on the next one..Bait and Switch!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    I have followed a martial art path seriously for several years.
    They say that a beginner, a fool or a madman are the three most dangerous enemies.
    Fortunately, with DM, though he satisfies 2 of these conditions, he is held to the playbook
    of another lunatic.
    The possibility of uncharacteristic or original strategy is virtually eliminated.
    Lord Hubris has “infallibly” decreed how the world is and how the world works.
    And endlessly prescribed his “solutions.”
    Lying is a major component.
    Long may the footbullets rain.

    Down another Rabbi-hole – thanx, Rod.
    Uh oh, does he lie about his CV?
    He wouldn’t, would he?
    You tell me:

    https://socialwelfare.stonybrookmedicine.edu/faculty-staff/full-time
    https://socialwelfare.stonybrookmedicine.edu/faculty-staff/part-time

    He’s floundering around in a deep drift, is the bold Michael Shevack,
    PR man to the clams.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5529baf69804fc36a9db6f06af5dc913c1a5fe570e0aec9b9d055bb847a5d73c.jpg

  • Missionary Kid

    scottishinlondon had the best snark for the rabbi: “I have heard allegations of terrible things happening to Jews. If it’s true, it disturbs me, but I have no personal experience of it.”

  • I remember once reading about an award given for one of Hubbard’s fiction books. It sounded official but I hadn’t heard of that award being given for a book or an audio book before. I did some digging on it and found that it was just some young guy (blind person) who lived at home with his parents and just made up his own awards. I’m not sure whether he originated the award or if Scientology solicited it. Unfortunately the link has since been taken down. It does make me question any awards Scientology gets though. They are all suspect to me.

    • Techie

      Sid, ever been to the LRH Life Exhibition in the HGB? https://s3-media2.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/Jw_BvasC6vcgN0t2igeisA/348s.jpg All those certificates, keys to the city, awards. There are hundreds of them. The panels pull back to reveal more and more as the music swells. All just as valid as your example. There are “LRH Personal Public Relations Officers” that do nothing but troll for these awards by lying about Hubbard and weaseling their way into unsuspecting city and state offices.

      • wonder if any money is following those “awards”

        • chukicita

          Usually there is no money involved on either side. A citizen writes a request that purports to represent a body of voters or a nonprofit, or a citizen attends a local council or commission meeting, follows the protocol and the elected body votes to honor a person with a certificate or a day or whatever isn’t going to cost them anything. Many of these requests are processed, and most are too busy or don’t care or the officials are uninformed and this stuff is typically just rubber stamped.

      • I don’t think I’ve seen that exhibit. Although I’ve been through the Industry of Death Museum and deserve an award for having done so.

      • Sherbet

        Was it when Lawrence Wright was being lauded as an award-winning author (or maybe it was Paul Haggis as an award-winning director) that cos sniffed its disdain of awards, to wit: Awards are a hollow accomplishment for some people who value them, but they’re really unimportant to the church. The church just couldn’t care less about awards…except those in the vaunted Hall o’ Hubbard.

    • I’ve dug into Scientology’s claimed awards a few times. My favorite was the Saturn Award, which isn’t for written sci-fi, and their site doesn’t list any awards to Hubbard.

  • Phil McKraken

    In regards to Tony’s supposition that DM is consolidating in Clearwater, this answers a question I asked 2 years ago, or so. To wit, assuming that Scientology’s collapsing business couldn’t support both LA and Clearwater, DM would soon uproot from one of those locations and consolidate in the other — which would it be? Tom Cruise may have given us the answer. I guess with them going all-in with the Superpower building, it was kind of inevitable.

    • Mark Foster

      Yep. Gotta love that SUPER POWER building. I mean, is it not one strikingly gaudy, emphatically
      empty statement of profound irony? Especially when you consider that making¨super power¨
      processes available was promoted, for decades within the scientology bubble, as THE answer to reversing the dwindling spiral.
      It was THE THING that, combined with ¨training¨ and the ¨OT levels¨, was gonna be the slam dunk for
      the meteoric expansion of scientology, the eradication of psychiatry, and the dawning of a new age
      of OT bomb-diggity-ness.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Infinity bomb-diggity for all! Although I have renounced all cult affiliation and disbelieve in every one of its most fundamental tenets, I still harbor an inexplicable urge to do the oiliness table think…preferably with a couple of young, shapely and uninhibited $cilon girls who are ready to be bad, very bad πŸ˜‰

        • ze moo

          You should be spanked. And then spanked again. Gives new meaning to ‘holding the cans’, doesn’t it? They could call it the Lubrication Rundown and charge 50k for the experience. Then they’d give you a sec check and charge another 50k.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            If it $cn continues its slide (PLEASE, Xenu!), then right before lil davey gets turned out on Hollywood Blvd., we may see him trying to boost revenues by making his minions offer “Happy EPs” on the oiliness table and behind close auditing room doors πŸ˜‰

        • Mark Foster

          film at 11… πŸ™‚

    • Maybe we can tease Russia into hacking the HGB fire alarm system and give guys a chance to excape on moving day. Why wait for the big quake to displace them all. Edit typos – clumsy on my android

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Sorry Floridians, but many LA residents would celebrate if that happens. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    • Liberated

      I think the no. 1 reason TC is moving to Clearwater….is because little Davey told him to.

    • Also, his son lives near Flag.

    • ze moo

      All the LA properties are most easily sold off ones. Yeah, the famous Valley mOrg will still be running fundraisers, but all the LRON Flubtard Way properties are very prime real estate.

      Consolidating all the ‘advanced’ stuff to Florida would be a sure sign of the clampocolypse. But it would make business sense.

      What would happen to the Cleb Center? It would stay. Can’t have the stars schlepping to Clearwater for their daily sec check.

  • nottrue
  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • Ben Franklin

      Who needs electors if you can control MEST?

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Forget Trump and Clinton! The US Electoral College needs to help Clear the Planet by voting for COB RTC Mr. David Miscavige tomorrow.

      President David Miscavige will bring peace and prosperity to America! President Miscavige’s economic revitalization program begins by building 25,000 Ideal Org gas stations. And of course all of the SP’s in America will be deported back to Wogalvania from whence they came.

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dc2ecacf05fe777f46183bf2ee265d0326af89f9d6379a08740df20fb1eb94cf.png

      • LOL

      • Mockingbird

        Sadly if the only choices were Trump or Miscavige I would have to vote Miscavige.

        • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

          President Miscavige plans on selling the Basics during his speeches. America, and the world, needs the Basics.

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b89309cdc40c1492236c948aacad9d719291e13afef33a590cf159804c301e13.jpg

          • ze moo

            If the dancing girls go up those ramps in the back, they will fall off the stage. That is one tough RPF!

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              Ze moo you have a misunderstood. Those ramps in back lead to the Front Porch of Infinity.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              I was just about to mention the twin “bridges to nowhere”! How unintentionally emblematic of exactly where $cn’s Bridge to Total Free Dumb and Complete Other-Determinism leads…love it!

          • Mockingbird

            Far, far better than Trump giving us the fourth Reich of kleptocracy and kakistocracy.

          • Mockingbird

            The basics would fool a tiny percent of people as they are too fucking long for most people to get through. Unfortunately Trump’s propaganda is short and designed to delude the dumbest of folks through lies and repetition. Like his role model Hitler.

      • ze moo

        Fill ‘er up with OT10, now with 20% Ethanol!! And some Slim Jims, please…

      • Harpoona Frittata

        “Free thetan wash with fill up!”

    • Dear Sir, what we really need down here on the ground is update Bose headphones which will filter entheta. Sir its just getting so hard to get anyone in and I know your stress test is the best succesfull action but you should see these wogs now adays…they are sooooo blind. Sir. Per the personallity tests we’ve managed I just get asked questions about Leah and wheres Shelley. Sir.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        “The answer is not to build new Bose headphones,” said David Miscavige. “The answer is to outlaw all forms of entheta. After all, why should we filter entheta when we can just criminalize it and stick the Merchants of Entheta in prison?”

        • ze moo

          “Donate now to this cause and get a key chain. We are out of trophies until bowling season ends”.

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            Ze moo, bowling trophies are as meaningless as Pulitzer Prizes, Emmy awards, or Oscars. And yet the demand of conceited SP wog bowlers for bowling trophies puts the IAS in a pinch and so it can’t get enough IAS trophies during bowling season.

            Awards are so shallow and meaningless. BTW, did we tell you that Scientology’s new religious blog just won an award for being the 29th most important religious blog in the entire universe?

    • Mockingbird

      Scientological thinking.

  • nottrue
    • LongtimeLurker

      Link to Nora’s video and Derek’s site goes there…

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I love how they can only name one–and a relatively obscure one at that. What site is this comment from? I’m curious who would pick a C-list musician like Armstrong as an example.

      • is it weird to you that this band blows up out of nowhere (relatively speaking – they were kind of big for a small band for about year around 2012, songs on KROQ out here), fans put together the 1-2 combo of openly gay and a Scientologist, band pretty much disappears. I just checked her Twitter and she hasn’t posted anything since Halloween.

        note to self: ask her about it all if I ever see her/band members again.

        • Please do. I kind of dig this song.

          • killer tune, very nice people (the ones i’ve met, at least). any ideas how i might bring up “being gay in the S word” during polite conversation without creating an awkward situation?

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Armstrong and crew are more active on Instagram, which seems to be the preferred platform for 20-30 somethings now. I don’t know much about Dead Sara at all, except that they exist, that Dave Grohl was championing them for a while (and they may have toured briefly with Foo Fighters? I’d have to look that up), and they also toured with Beck at one point (which…ok, one clam throwing another a bone makes sense). Now, they’re mostly hanging out with Danny Masterson and playing one-off gigs with his “band.” Oh, and one of those cretins from the crew that Cat White ran with–moniker is “smaale” but I forget his name–seems like a close friend, too.

          I can’t stand that whole “boho” CoS clique. I really can’t.

          I thought Armstrong and her girl, Kate Harrison, were more or less out? Seemed like it on IG not too long ago.

          • I vaguely knew about the Grohl/Beck stuff (band was one of my clients during that period) but I’m unaware of everything you mentioned after summoning the DF’nM.

            Any suggestions how I could casually bring it up next time we cross paths?

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              “DF’nM…” Admittedly, that took me a minute to catch on. Good one, my friend. I will need to use this moniker.

              Ummm…Not sure I have any good ideas for illuminating conversation starters. You could just go the direct route and ask, “Hey, how’s your girlfriend Kate these days?” Cedric Bixler-Zavala (Mars Volta/At the Drive-in) and his wife Chrissie left the CoS recently, inspired in large part by Leah Remini. I think Armstrong and Cedric have had a working relationship before. ATDI is reuniting. Maybe that’s a starting point?

              FTR, Chrissie went on a Twitter rampage in the wake of Remini’s first episode all but accusing Masterson of sexually assaulting her. (They dated for a while when she was much younger–he’s the one who got her into the cult.) Chrissie has now locked down her social media accounts. But she was not mincing words, and neither was Cedric. Oh, how I would love to see DF’nM go down…

            • Ah, thanks for the idea πŸ˜‰

              The ATDI connection will work. Glad to hear Cedric is out. Knowing he was in was another one that made things a bit awkward around the office.

              I’m w/ you on the demise of DF’nM. I was at a private party that he “hosted” (whatever that means … it was in a swank bar and he was there, so “host”?) during that 70s Show high point. I don’t think we spoke but we were introduced briefly by a mutual friend at the time and he was a smug dick. I’m sure I was way too much of a heavy metal dirtbag for his “Scieno-boho” crew. Fine with me.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              FYI, looks like Dead Sara has a new record coming out early next year. Oh, and lookee: if you scroll down the page to the August entry, you’ll see they recently did a fundraiser for a scientology front group (H.E.L.P.).
              http://www.deadsara.com/

  • ExCult.Jan

    Remember to recommend.

  • I guess it’s good to know that Religious blog award is a thing.

    • Ha! The poor Shakers had their blog much longer and are so disappointed they never got an award.

      • ze moo

        At least with the Shakers, you got nice furniture.

        • And never had to play musical chairs.

    • ze moo

      Sure, its real. Just like Lron’s train ticket on the Venus Express.

    • chukicita

      Do they have a category for Best Gaslighting Cult?

  • Jimmy3

    Feedspot was ranked the worst blog ranking site by Jimmy3.

    • Juicer77

      They got a high rating from JDPooper, too.

    • Ben Franklin

      Tommy Davis is on the phone right now, he is screaming and yelling that you have no F***ing rank to rank Feedspot.

  • LookingBack

    Was John Carmichael head of the NY Church of Scientology in 1977?

  • nottrue
    • Sherbet

      She’s so refreshingly honest.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Just love how Leah owns her shit when it comes to admitting what she did as a programmed Ronbot for the cult while she was in…and she does it even when no one is putting her on the spot about it, as in this twitter exchange.

    • Frodis73

      Oh man, I hope she does provide us with that packet-goldmine!!

  • Sherbet

    A word to the wise (not WISE): Do not read the comments in Mike Rinder’s blog today unless you’re looking for a salute to woo, compliments of the Hubbardtown Cheerleading Squad.

    • Jimmy3

      John Woo?

      • Sherbet

        Yes. //rolling my eyes//

        • flyonthewall

          hey, you’re a lady, did anything like this ever happen to you? Man, that’d be scary. Think it burned her eyeball?

          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1e4dfcba2e0344479c23a439f94bba388444ff08d1a3e62ecee3238c9a0ef8b9.gif

          • Sherbet

            It was nice of the person who was filming to keep going despite impending tragedy.

            • flyonthewall

              maybe it was a girlfriend who was mad at her for stealing her boyfriend and she was secretly like, “That’s what you get bitch! Burn!”

            • Sherbet

              You came up with quite a scenario.

          • stillgrace2

            She had on fresh, flammable eyelash glue.

    • jazzlover

      Now I have to πŸ™‚ Btw, Wise Not Wise would make a good band name along the lines of Was Not Was.

    • Frodis73

      Lol, when I read that this morning there were no comments yet, but I knew they were going to come out in force today.

    • Tony Ortega

      Someone should light a campfire for all of those ghost stories being told.

      • Sherbet

        Did you ever think you’d find an Espiando post to be the most rational of the bunch?

        • beauty for ashes

          I thought Espi had some salient points, he did however use scary and violent language as well. I should go check this out.

          • Sherbet

            That’s a good description. I had a lot of respect for his posts, but he’d go off the rails into crudeness from time to time, and, particularly, crudeness directed at women in the Bunker.

            • Jimmy3

              I’m only nice to the ladies here so I don’t get banned. And cuz they so pretty.

            • Sherbet

              Good plan.

            • Jimmy3

              Thanks ho

            • Sherbet

              Laughing!

            • Juicer77

              XD

            • flyonthewall

              I really can’t stand crudeness or lewdness, especially lasciviousness. The last one is the worst. It’s just how I was raised

            • Sherbet

              The funny thing is, everyone thinks of Howdy as such a badass, but he almost never used a curse word or said something crude.

              And you’re a polite fly.

            • flyonthewall

              I can be an evil monkey sometimes. But just the mischief causing kind, not the face ripping off kind

            • Sherbet

              In all honesty, even though I’m pretty much a Goody Two-Shoes, it doesn’t bother me to “hear” swears and sex jokes in the Bunker, unless the whole conversation is continually derailed or when posters are getting beaten up. I can skip over what bores or annoys me. I’m not the boss of anyone. So, carry on, you *^%$#ers!

            • flyonthewall

              speaking of Howdy, I found this gif here, might as well post it now.

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6bbb9e4571e4ac628c19f4fea3f43ff80496be62d81d24b4c54bedc9840317ed.gif

            • Sherbet

              That’s hilarious.

            • stillgrace2

              True. He also was respectful of women.

            • stillgrace2

              … don’t forget the poor farm animals.

        • Nat-leficent

          Yes. He is rational. Rude and violent but logical.

    • flyonthewall

      Espi is there. I haven’t seen him in awhile, but I haven’t read comments at Rinder’s for awhile either. Yep.

      • Sherbet

        More and more Bunkerites have been posting there.

        • flyonthewall

          a little miscegenation of the sci watching commenters never hurt

          • Sherbet

            Not a problem, you’re right. It’s a good club for exes, too.

    • ONEpointONE

      Does this stand as an actual warning or as an invitation for a high-five?

      • Sherbet

        My sarcastic way of saying there are some real believers in Hubbardology, including the phenomenon of exteriorization, over there today.

    • Terra Incognita is a straight shooter. And there are all kinds of comments.

      • Sherbet

        I agree, but it’s one of those posts that I, as a never-in, really have no business reading, and that includes the comments. I don’t believe the posters who claim to have “exteriorized,” and I never will, but it’s clear they believe it. So I just creep back to the Bunker and let them play over there.

        • Understood.

        • Juicer77

          I read Rinderblog comments and ExSciMessageBoard but never comment. Not my place except for the perspective it provides. Hard to swallow sometimes, and I believe in the Virgin Birth. So WTH do I know? πŸ˜‰

          • Sherbet

            I don’t read ESMB. But, yes, I have my own little Christian-based quirks, so I shouldn’t criticize. Still, if Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John had been sci fi writers and documented liars and cheats, maybe I wouldn’t have been so quick to stick with them while remaining skeptical of L. Ron.

        • jazzlover

          I think exteriorization is unpresidented in the physical universe.

          • Juicer77

            Hee hee

            • jazzlover

              Just keepin’ it topical πŸ˜‰

          • Sherbet

            I don’t understand. You mean we’ve never seen it in the physical universe?

            • jazzlover

              That was my little shout out to the latest Trumpism (yes, that’s now a thing!)

            • Sherbet

              Oh, it sailed right over my head.

            • jazzlover

              To which side did it part yer hair πŸ˜‰

            • Sherbet

              Neither. I have on a Travolta ‘do.

            • jazzlover

              LOL. I see a comb over in his future πŸ™‚ Definitely don’t do THAT.

        • Temporal Lobe Epilepsy – check out this woman
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqYISIukNuA

          • Sherbet

            Sorry, no time to watch it now, Dice. I’ll just say I’ve “exteriorized” myself while in a difficult, frightening situation. It’s the mind’s way of getting one out of something uncomfortable. I don’t make it happen, and it’s usually linked to panic attacks. I also know there are other psychological causes. But to believe it’s a learned and cool skill — learned thanks to scientology — eh, I’m not convinced.

            • beauty for ashes

              hers is linked to epilepsy along with some other spiritual phenomenon. Fascinating!!!!

            • Sherbet

              Yes, that I understand and believe. I don’t understand or believe it as a super power bestowed upon scientologists for the right amount of money.

            • it’s a diagnose

            • Sherbet

              Yes, what I said to beauty.

          • beauty for ashes

            I want to meet this lady! I have so many questions for her! Amazeballs. thanks for sharing. It reminds me of when I found out that sleep apnea was responsible for these invisible demon dreams I only had while on my back, and when I woke up I would be in the exact same place I was in during the dream.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwJAvMS1wnE “I smell pussy”
    “I want your name your location”?

  • Elegant Mess

    For anyone aware of fellow commentator, iampissed’s situation, this is just a reminder:
    At about 3pm PST, if you could direct your thoughts towards his family and softly say “Richard go in Light, Love and happiness”; it would be greatly appreciated.
    Our thoughts, prayers and meditations are with you, iampissed.
    FWIW, please know that you have love and support here in this impossibly tough time.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      In 4 minutes, is that right?

      • Elegant Mess

        Yes m’lady.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          I can’t bear it. What the family must be going through. We need Baby’s candle.

    • Sherbet

      Thank you for the reminder, Elegant. It’s quite a beautiful mantra, and I hope it brings some comfort or otherwise “good vibes.”

    • flyonthewall

      were they taking him off life support at that time? Is that how we know the specific time?

      • Juicer77

        I think so. Sounds like it.

      • Elegant Mess

        I’m not sure on the specifics, but I did read that they were talking end of life procedures being carried out today. iampissed just requested the above at 3pm West coast time.

    • ExCult.Jan

      Much light, love, and happiness from The Bunker family.

  • Observer

    Zsa Zsa Gabor has died (today, not five years ago).

    • Sherbet

      In the arms of Harry Morgan?

      • Observer

        :-p

        • Sherbet

          I’m sorry, but I will say just about anything to get a laugh.

    • 99. Good ride. RIP.

  • Baby

    “Richard go in Light, Love and happiness”; Thinking of you Richard and Iampissed..Bunker f5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/61568f680423caf1b5cd22be491a569f6fd17c72cfee1ecebd443980c0b3ed43.gif

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Thank you.

      • Baby

        Amazing. I just logged on the minute you posted that betty

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Your timing is always perfect πŸ™‚

    • beauty for ashes

      Maya Angelou said when you don’t know what to do light a candle. Thank you for this.
      Hope when Iam sees this he is comforted.

    • PickAnotherID

      “And each small candle
      Lights a corner of the dark…”

  • iampissed, may Richard travel onward in peace and love. positive thoughts for you and your family during this difficult time.

    • Juicer77

      Go with love and peace, Richard.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I said it out loud, I hope that was okay.

  • By the way, kudos to whoever shooped Tom Cruise with a laptop in front of the Big Blue.
    Perhaps best picture/title match.

    • jazzlover

      I thought so too. Studious Tom Cruise is hard to wrap my mind around πŸ™‚

      • And guess what I am still listening to on repeat.

        • jazzlover

          LOL. I go through phases like that. Currently, Stevie Ray Vaughan’s last album, “The Sky is Crying”.

    • Tony Ortega

      That was your proprietor, trying with his amateur skills to channel Mark and the Observer.

      • Wha?!.. I don’t know who you are anymore. Nice.

      • beauty for ashes

        Good Job!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Richard, go in light, love and happiness.
    Know that you were loved.

    And, iampissed, know that you are too.
    We are but ephemeral and love is what is best of us.
    May it be as light to warm and guide you in your loss.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4201a27fd2e53d4eeff17c1cd8c0cb029b0e5d6a9a0f447a98c19ee3e767fd1e.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b97b5c72947c54b4640b3a08006207bae6592f1702ab4be150554895ba52fff.jpg

    • Juicer77

      Great images.

    • Sherbet

      Nature is amazing. I know, that’s a lame thing to say, but just look at those glorious creatures.

      • beauty for ashes

        If only they tasted as good as they looked, you could just eat them with chop sticks! ;p

        • Sherbet

          beauty! That’s mean! Of course, I did laugh, but.

          • beauty for ashes

            I know I made a horrible horrible joke!
            I would never eat a butterfly , that’s sacrilegious.

            • Juicer77

              And fuzzy.

        • DoveAlexa

          What- wait, NO, no do not eat them no. No.
          o_O

        • Robert Eckert

          The better they look, the more likely they are poisonous– true fact

    • JaxNGold

      That was beautiful, Pan.

      iampissed – I’m so sorry about your Dad. ***HUGS***

  • nottrue
    • Juicer77

      “Rise” was one of the Manson family slogans. Scrawled in blood at crime scenes. Ugh.

      • Sherbet

        Did you read “Manson” by Jeff Guinn? Fascinating and thorough book, Juicer, if you like that sort of thing. And I do.

        • Juicer77

          Will add to my reading list. Thanks.

    • Observer

      I wonder how long it’ll be until she quits Twitter

      • Juicer77

        Never. It’s her only outlet.

      • Frodis73

        She must be blocking like crazy the past few weeks.

      • She will quit scientology before Twitter.

        • Robert Eckert

          Trump will quit Twitter before Kirstie does

          • SNAFU

            I doubt she or Trump will ever quit. They’re both clueless egomaniacs.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I don’t know but her personal website is lulzy. I posted some examples yesterday but it’s much more fun to go look yourself. “Downstat” she just gets berated with comments about how stupid her cult is and how she should open up her eyes to the abuses. So she pays for “entheta” against $cioCorp or someone on her staff is having a great laugh at her expense.

    • Mary Smith

      Why do all Scientologists use the word Insouciance so much? I have never figured this out if anyone knows–just curious.

      Kirstie Alley ‏@kirstiealley Dec 15

      Kirstie Alley Retweeted Doctor Donovan

      This is GREAT!! Insouciance is the secret to a swell life! πŸ‘―πŸ‘―πŸ‘―πŸ’ƒπŸΌπŸ’ƒπŸΌπŸ’ƒπŸΌπŸ’πŸ’πŸ’

      • Robert Eckert

        Because Hubbard liked the word?

  • Baby
    • Iconoclast Six

      Whatever you do, don’t blink.

  • iampissed

    He’s is now very close…90/24 O2 70 machine off….thank you all

  • Something complicated, silly, but beautiful…
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q

    • beauty for ashes

      I posted this here too. It is beautiful, and not at all silly.

    • DoveAlexa

      That was amazing, in a multitude of ways. I’m glad I came back today.

    • now don’t post the same vid with the original sound :-O

    • Baby

      Thanks RM …I needed this.. xo

      • beauty for ashes

        I need to give you (((((GIANT SMOOOSHY HUGS)))))
        okay, I feel better. I know we both been crying so much our eyes hurt.
        Now I suggest a light smattering of dogs while laying in a comfortable position. And a beer.:)

        • Baby

          I will take it darlin..

          Shoot I wish I had a beer sigh… I’ll have to each Brownie Cheesecake..shoot. xoxox Dogs are all covered with me though..

      • Love your new avy Baby!!

        • Baby

          Thank you Dodo.. time for a change..xo

    • TexasBroad

      Mezmerizing!

  • Observer
    • They don’t care about lowtoned customers

    • AntoniaW

      I posted my own review recently. It’s Christmas, and people can let their guard down…

      “If you want to contribute to Scientology, stay here”
      Reviewed 1 week ago
      I visited this hotel a few times and sent a few of my guests here to experience the stunning view of the cliffs from the hotel, but when I posted something online about the Mappins’ Scientology information in the hotel the owner, John Mappin, tracked me down at home and called my daughter, then emailed me. When I told him that I didn’t want to meet him and discuss Scientology as I thought it was a cult, he threatened to sue me. I can post his emails if you like. This is not a normal hotel and potential visitors should be aware of that fact – the proprietors have an over-riding purpose in recruiting for the cult of Scientology. Which probably explains a lot.”

      Stayed October 2016, traveled solo
      Value
      Location
      Service
      Less
      Ask Antonia W about Camelot Castle Hotel

      • Baby

        ” I can post his emails if you like. ”

        Yes, yes.. emails..

        • AntoniaW

          Any time you want, I’ve saved & backed up.

        • AntoniaW

          Actually I just thought I’d share this blissful extract with you (from Mappin’s emails to me) as I thought it remarkable that he states clearly that scientology is not a “religion” suited to all:

          ” Your knowledge of Scientology is SO grossly confused and SO inaccurate that there seems little point in trying to sort it all out for you. I just re refer you again to the source texts at http://www.scientology.com.

          I sincerely doubt that the subject or religion of Scientology is for you or would suit your approach, so please don’t think that I am recommending or suggesting it for you, based as the subject is is on empirical evidence, observation, scientific method and the laws of science.”

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            “…based as the subject is is on empirical evidence, observation, scientific method and the laws of science.””

            *Chuckle*

            • AntoniaW

              It’s great when these spiritual types tell you that you’re too stupid to be worth converting….

            • beauty for ashes

              I’ve never been able be to be corrected by first pointing out how stupid I am to think the way I do. I don’t know about you. So he’s off to a great start.

            • AntoniaW

              Last note before I go to bed (blowing kisses to you all in the Bunker) is Mappin’s last paragraph(s) to me, which perhaps tells one something about the utter feebleness of the Scilon legal approach:

              “Internet researchers on these two subjects, in my experience tend to be very sloppy with their facts and make classic false assumptions.

              Which begs the interesting legal question is one liable for repeating a libel or for repeating a falsehood that is defamatory.

              You can look into this yourself but I found this.

              This is the US viewpoint.

              http://www.defamationremovallaw.com/liability-repeating-defamatory-statement/

              And this from the UK “Basic Libel for idiots.”

              “Anyone who repeats allegations can also be sued. This is important. Seeing something written somewhere else doesn’t mean it is true. Repeating allegations without making sure they are true is a very good way to get yourself knee deep in litigation.”

              The above link and data may help you think twice about what you have been doing.”

              I was truly amazed that Mappin, as a Scientology tuna if not a whale, could not have afforded to consult a proper on-tap solicitor/attorney before putting fingers to keyboard. Basic Libel for Idiots indeed.

            • beauty for ashes

              O Noooes Mr. Mappin!!!! Don’t sue little ole me!
              night night! thanks for sharing, it lifted the mood πŸ™‚

            • Baby

              OMG.. Scientology Tuna..hahahhaha

            • He has contributed a lot of the family money towards the renovation of the slowly-rotting Plymouth Ideal Org building https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2016/11/06/plymouth-ideal-org-fantasies-and-lies/

              He’s a creepy, ridiculous character, but he’s given quite a lot a money to the CofS, which they have effortlessly made disappear, and his support has enabled them to fleece the 30-odd active Scientologists in the South-west of England since 2010 with the false promise of a new org.

              I don’t know where he gets the idea that US law applies here (likely that was the only relevant link he could find on Google). However, if repeating allegations was actionable, news reporting would grind to a halt.

            • beauty for ashes

              NAT!!! Grammar Police!!

          • Baby

            Bawwwwwwwwwwwhahahahha OMG what F*ckin Bull Shit..Thanks Antonia..xo f5

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0dc594c4c8483fe001a4e2c5957427db40ce335bd35c8bba47df32690ce2ac40.jpg

  • AntoniaW

    So “Rabbi” (is there any info on his ordination btw?) Michael Shevack comes from a marketing background and writes on “spirituality and business”. I find it hard to give him the benefit of the doubt here. You’d have to be blind, deaf and dumb not to realise that that scientology is at best controversial, so that it would be exceedingly foolish to endorse it without proper research. Especially having dipped one’s toes in the water by watching “Going Clear”. I’m not sure whether to mention smelling anything after listening to John Carmichael’s truly repulsive remarks, but I do think that some of us are smelling a large rat in the vicinity of the Rabbi or “Rabbi”.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Qbird

      cool. c ya later, Walrus.

  • SNAFU

    Just a heads up in case this hasn’t been posted or anyone is unaware, A&E is re-airing the last two episodes of “Leah Remini: Scientology and The Aftermath: right now, which will be followed by a a preview of the upcoming episode “A Leader Emerges ” from 8:53 to 9:00 EST.

    • Baby

      thanks SNAFU.. xo

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Another unintended EP of Scientology: Fed-up and wised-up.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Back then they didn’t have a big list us card counters end up on either. Or at least they didn’t share their list with the competition.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    The clam scam sets up at the Pendergrass Flea Market (Georgia). No takers.
    Notice that they don’t even remove the plastic wrap off of the books anymore. No need to, because even they realize that nobody is interested in that crap!
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bc35b5705934d392a34bb36669b01288c7791962e21468621cca4e78a44de4db.png

    • jazzlover

      The line of thinking should be “if this is a waste of time, what the hell am I doing here doing busy work?”

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        The keyword there is “thinking”

        • jazzlover

          You make a good point!

    • beauty for ashes

      Hmmm, Avon or Dianetics? I’d pick Avon.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Neither give you a pink Cadillac though.

    • They’re not doing so well in the UK either. Here in Plymouth they operate from a folding handcart that has not been seen for two years. However, after a recent big meeting (as many as 15 people, including the Sea Org members who are currently running the Org) it has reappeared for Christmas.

      It’s almost as if they were desperately trying to counter/distract from some very bad PR https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2016/12/05/scientologists-in-plymouth-uk-recruiting-for-christmas-what-can-go-wrong/

  • itsIBBy

    Happy sunday bunkeroos! My 49ers lost again in spectacular fashion, I wrapped Christmas gifts for my family, and I have the freedom to come say hello to you all.

    • jazzlover

      I thought for sure they’d find a way to win last week against my perennially cruddy team.

      • itsIBBy

        My friend is an Atlanta fan and I was telling her that’s where my money would go if I was betting. I love the niners, I’m from San Francisco originally, but even I know not to bet on them

        • jazzlover

          Well, they were a powerhouse for a long time. No reason to think it won’t happen again. The Jets on the other hand…….OY.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Rogue One. Research Director Orson Krennic = David Miscavige

    • beauty for ashes

      Hi Elwrong, How’s life? How’s kittehs? Hope you are well.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Everything is well. Thanks, Beauty. Settling down after a crazy summer and fall, but all good things, so not to worry,

    • Frodis73

      Yes! How about that Vadar scene?

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Good stuff.

        • Frodis73

          That very last scene made me cry…wasn’t expecting that and it was perfection.

  • Supper Powers

    I’m rewatching Leah’s shows tonight and I’m thinking about Rinder. I am in no position to judge the man, but I do. After all these years exposing the church and trying to reconnect to his children and brother, I think Rinder has become whole again. As a person he now seems whole. When his kids break out he will be complete. And that will happen.

  • edge

    O/T: Took my nephew to see Rogue One. Fantastic movie. I think it did a better job of establishing its own vibe than Force Awakens. I mean this in the best way but with all the closeup shots Felicity Jones has distractingly beautiful eyes.

  • About that post yesterday – my wife was very helpful too. Talking to my friend, her daughter and calling Chase Bank on their behalf checking for any credit lines under her name – there were none at the time.

    All three of them are planning to visit Unitarian Universalist Church right after Christmas. I might join too.

    • Supper Powers

      You’re a good friend.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Tell Mrs. Dodo thanks from the Bunker too. Good job my friend.

  • Observer

    FYI, I’m going to be doing the work of two people at work this coming week, so I’ll won’t be around much, at least during the day.

    • You have to find a replacement. Or else.

    • beauty for ashes

      but we’ll miss you. what happens to the berries? will they freeze? what if mean tweets come out and we miss it? **sighs**

    • Baby

      Do you have a Dr’s excuse?

      • Observer

        I need to win the lottery

        • chukicita

          If I win, you will too. If I were in John P’s league I would pass on the supermodels and hire a humor staff.

        • Liberated

          That’s my plan, too.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Just invest in Big Pharma and wait for the dividend checks.

    • Sherbet

      This is unacceptable to me.

    • mockingbird

      Will you get the pay of two people ?

  • Supper Powers

    Go home, Sammy.

    • beauty for ashes

      is it a sandwich or a person that is the problem?

      • Supper Powers

        It’s Mary Kahn’s son who disconnected from her. A&E is re-airing the show about the Kahn family.

        • beauty for ashes

          Aww, Sammy go home and Mary will make you a sammy, and it will taste like love.
          You don’t know how beautiful it is to make your Mom happy and healed. your heart will explode. It’s better than OTVIII. promise.

  • Supper Powers

    Preview of Tueday’s show is on

  • Supper Powers

    Lisa is discussed.

    • Jenny Griffith

      And pictures. I’m glad this is being aired with the horrific details.

      • Supper Powers

        Leah and A&E have done their homework. It’s like watching Bunker articles and commentary come to life on television.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Supper Powers

      Oh boy.

    • jazzlover

      If you get a chance, watch all 8 episodes of “The Killing Season”. There’s some scary shit going on in this nation’s dark, dank underground. That show needs a 2nd season also.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Quote from above websleuth’s blog concerning Leah’s safety.
      ” don’t think that anyone with her fame has spoken out in as many ways as
      she has. She has written books, done interviews, documentaries…The
      whole gamut. Other celebrities that I have seen leave will seem to pick a
      medium such as a blog or YouTube. Tony Ortega keeps track of the
      comings and goings in his blog and is very informative. Marty Rinder is
      also a wealth of knowledge. One of my hobbies was sleuthing Scientology
      for a while because it was shocking!”
      Yeah, Marty Rinder is a wealth of knowledge.” Marty isn’t going to be on is he?

      • Sherbet

        If Websleuth said “Rinder,” then we can assume they meant “Mike.” At this point, I don’t think Marty would agree to any interviews. Not now, anyway.

        • At this point, I don’t think he was asked, and that might be part of the reason for his current sulk.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        When I first got into this CO$ watching racket, I used to get the Marks (Rathbun, Bunker), Marcs (Headley), Martys (Rathbun) & Mikes (Rinder) confused all the time too. But after studying Tony Ortega’s Bunker Study Tech, I now have the ability to keep them straight. Thank You TO!

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Buddy of mine who has somewhat reluctantly listened to me gripe about Scientology for years and watched Going Clear with me giving additional color commentary says to me yesterday, “Dude, I know you’ve been watching that Leah Remini show on A&E, but, damn it’s really really good. Better than Going Clear. I streamed all three episodes last night….just couldn’t stop watching.” Score another win for the cause.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    just had dinner in a local drinking establishment. They were playing Aftermath on one of the 3 big screens behind the bar. Finally got to watch the segment with Mary Khan and Rinder. Yea. I cried.

    I also got to witness to some of the patrons. The Bartender asked me if what they had been saying was true. I said yes.

    “witness.” That old thing about sharing your own religious conviction. Heh. Now I get to share my hope for scientology’s conviction. And jail time.

    • Supper Powers

      That’s pretty fantastic.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Let’s get to the important part of your post, MLT. A drinking establishment was playing A&E?

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Yep. Right next to football. Who woulda thunk?

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Amazingly unexpected.

  • Vaquera
    • Supper Powers

      Griole’s little thetan is glowing.

      • Liberated

        Whee!…..little thetan happy.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Its not a show-er, its a grow-er glow-er πŸ™

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      The clams claim there were 7000 people there. I bet not.

    • Baby

      You do know that you are referred by as Whales don’t you?

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Disqus notifications messed up for anyone else?

    • jazzlover

      Everybody else. For me, it has been bad for the last few days.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Cool. What’s shakin’ Jazz?

        • jazzlover

          Dealing with the (foreign to you Floridians) cold weather. Yesterday 5 inches of snow, then rain then freezing rain, then up around 50 today. LOL. Tomorrow back down to the 20s. Not even Winter yet. Blech.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            It was 84 here and humid today. Feel sorry for me?

            • jazzlover

              Not really, but I do know that humidity sux, so you get at least half a pass πŸ™‚

    • Observer

      Yes. Has been for a couple of days now.

    • Qbird
      • Frodis73

        This pic kills me every darn time I see it.

    • Ugh! Still messed up at eleven pm pac time.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Sherbet

      Christmas 2017? “Great work for personal growth,” but doesn’t know what year it is. Anyway, I think it was a NYE celebration, not Christmas.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Worse than that, it was the 2017 New Year’s event and had nothing to do with Christmas. Derp!

        • Sherbet

          Good luck not getting “sucked into the whole cult thing,” Ken Boyer.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Would that be “Rolling Around in the Mud Without Getting Dirty” tech?

            • Sherbet

              Or “Sleeping With Mangy Scientology Dogs and Not Getting Fleas” tech.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              They are both probably part of the new OTX, advanced stuff for sure!

  • Taffy Sinclair

    Ok, so I just visited my first “idle org.” The town I used to live in had a $ci “mission”, that that dreck closed. I heard anonymous helped, (thanks, guys!!.)

    I am happy to share my experience. If y’all wanna hear it, that is. All’s I can say is “wow”!!!

    • JaxNGold

      Do tell….

      • Taffy Sinclair

        Will do!! Ok, so, I’m, going to use non-gendered pro-nouns and no names… Here goes…

        • Taffy Sinclair

          Only cuz my friend is super-paranoid, as am I

          • Taffy Sinclair

            So, the 2 of us are standing outside the “org”.: It’s a big city, so lotsa traffic. We’re there, arguing, for a hot minute. I wanna go in, but the friend wants to finish reading some dreck on cel phone, perhaps finfish a text. I was gonna go alone, but they said, uh, no, you ain’t going to THAT place alone. Not after the autopsy pics of that woman from clearwater you showed me!! ……..

            • Taffy Sinclair

              After about 3 minutes, a dude comes out, all security looking. I’m sure he’s gonna tell me and my friend that “theres no smoking outside the building,” But lo-and-behold, he gives me 2 “free passes” for a personality test!!
              I mean, dang! We just standing there arguing about when to go in, and dude some out w/ an invite!!!! Security cameras have a whole new meaning to me….
              It gets better…..

            • Taffy Sinclair

              So, I tell $cilon dude that I’d love to come in! I’m super-curious to see their museum! So, we go in. I’m introduced (barely) to the desk-man. I’m immediately led to a video of a bio of El.Con.Chubbard. Eh. I’ve seen that hot mess on U-Toob. I then am led to a vid on Dianetixxx!! Dun-dun-dun!!!

              Again, I’m familiar w/ that game, too. Who cares… But next???

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Let me backtrack for a minute…..
              Immediately, they ask me and my friend to fill out a card w/ our names, address, ph#’s, etc….. I said “NO!”, but this mutherfukker really pushed!! My friend, who’s so much bigger than me, god bless them, said “”NO!!””. dude stood down. As well he should’ve.

              We walk to the “cans”. Y’all know what I’m talking ’bout!

              So, I pick them up, and ask, “Is this that e-meter thing y’all use??”
              “Oh, yes it is”. I say bring out the meter! He does.

              bathroom break, more to come……

            • Taffy Sinclair

              So, this is my 1st time ever touching one of these things… They are literally hollow! I asked what they’re made of, I was told Aluminum. They are hollow, much narrower than “soup cans” and have little holes you would plug ear phones into!!!
              The meter was a bronze/sienna color?? maybe?? Said “Hubbard electronics” (I think) Mark Ultra VIII. I’m going by memory.

              this is where it gets fun!

            • Taffy Sinclair

              $cilon dude tells me that he’s only got a minimal knowledge of how to use the thing (I take that to mean he’s not a class xyz “auditor”) He can’t even barely answer my questions. 1st one being “Is thing thing gonna electrocute me??” LMAO!!!!

              Next, I ask “what are these 2 dials for?” Uh, different people need different settings. I ask “So this simply measures skin conductivity?” uh, yeah, it does, that. It also measures pictures in your mind.

              Ok. Let’s go. “I grab hold og these “Cans” I’ve heard soo so much about!! This is fun for me. He asks……

            • Taffy Sinclair

              “Think of someting going on in yr life” That fucking needle went all the way right and he does “what were you just thinking about? Something haappened there”

              I say something, blahblah

              We do it again.

              He wants to take the cans from me. I say “No!! Again!!” We do this several times, it was amusing!!! I know this “meter” does NOT measure “thoughts”, but I was entertained at the needle movement.

              Personally, I was hoping to be a “rock slammer,” but no such luck….

              the best is next……

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I hear screaming from the next level,, dude tells me they have a daycare
              ((shudders))
              Then a figure comes up and asks my “auditor” all kinds of questions about me and friend

              where are they from?
              Whats there names?
              did they fill out an info card, etc,,,???
              Dud tells person that I watched videos, did the e-meter, etc….
              I kinda felt bad for him, being interrogated like that about some strangers who were “lured” in, LOL!!!

              Super weird, super scary,

              My cell was on, were they able to “scan” it and get my contact info?????

            • nope! they are pretty low tech

            • Taffy Sinclair

              For real? Cuz my friend is mad at me for bringing them there, and is afraid their phone is hacked!!!

              BTW, what is a rock-slammer?? I hears its a “1.1 tone scale”, but I need it in English… Thanks!!

            • trust me – they don’t hacks phones in a test center. You think those two morons could figure that out?
              a rock slam is like a jerking needle movement, just as if you had banged the 2 cans together

            • Taffy Sinclair

              My understanding is that, if you rock-slam, yr an SP. Which I totally am, don’t get me wrong, but does it mean anything more?

            • evil intentions

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I certainly have evil intentions toward the “church”

            • Taffy Sinclair

              1 more thing.
              Lemme get this straight. You skin’s electrical conductivity can determine your evil intentions???? WTF??? Am I in reality???

            • no silly… it’s a scam.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Touche!!

            • if you get mad or think of tom cruise you will see it on the meter, it’s like when you get red in your face

            • Taffy Sinclair

              What really pissed me off what the fact that after all that “auditing” (for demonstrations sake) my hands reeked of aluminum. You know the smell I;m talking about???

            • yes! it’s like the smell of metal

            • Taffy Sinclair

              So nasty!!! BTW, I mainly post online about real housewives of _____, but all my “housewife” friends love love LOVE Leah’s show on a&e. I told them about this site.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I think it’s important everyone know.

            • spread the word, thats what it’s all about

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Done & done!!!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Which housewives?

            • Taffy Sinclair

              All of them, but mostly Atlanta. I went to high school w/ one of them, but we love watching them all!!!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I was in an accident and luckily my sister was able to take care of me. I saw both the NYC and The Beverly Hills one. Please tell me woman aren’t that mean to each other. What happened to the one with one leg?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5i5PaBEhnk

            • Taffy Sinclair

              I am Dying rite now :)!!! Thats the bitch!!! LMFAO
              We went to high school together/!!! Sciento—i mean–catholic school!!!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              He he! Just a little wad of hair extensions.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              1 more thing, they tried to sell me a book. $5, but still.
              Any money and all money goes to David “Applecrate” Miscarriage. Even 5 buxxx….

            • they will ask for your address when buying anything, never buy anything. Just selling one book will make them upstat for a whole week

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Thats what I told my friend!! That my “cooperation” as a visitor would give the guy an up-stat!!! But we did this on a fri, and wanted to do it on a thurs!!! Ya know, their closing day of the week….

              But, yeah, no money from Ms. Sinclair, not EVA!!! I am NOT a “stat!” LOLZ

            • Todd Tomorrow

              You are but they sadly are not.

            • Missionary Kid

              All the electrical conductivity does is tell that you have had an emotion reaction. It doesn’t really tell whether it is a negative or positive one.

              The problem with the polygraph is that it really doesn’t detect lies, but an emotional reaction that may indicate that a person may be deceptive. Galvanic skin response is only 1/3 of the things it measures.

              A polygraph, as well as an e-meter, can be fooled. That’s why results of a polygraph examination aren’t allowed in court. Because $cientologists are taught that the e-meter is exceedingly accurate, they assume it has more powers and accuracy than it actually has, and are intimidated into complying with the sec check or auditing.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Rock slam can mean many things from the E-meter just needing to be tuned up to you are who they all should be listening to. A double slam and your precleared (a rarity) meaning you get to hop past the first 190 hours of courses unless you’re lesbian.

            • lol

            • if you want to freak them out. then you just hold the cans together without them seeing it. Hands over cross or under table. Short circuit the damn thing

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I think so and soon they’ll be over with a door prize,

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Sweet. I need the publishers clearing house sweepstakes here now!!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Usually it starts out small like a free course on how to up your credit card limits and a juicer.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              AHH, I get it it now. There’s a poster on here named Juicer!!

              I take it there’s more to that story? And the whole “juicer” thing? Jack Lalanne behind this racket??

            • he is pulling your leg

            • Todd Tomorrow

              No, it’a nice but a made in China knock off. It does about 1/3 of what Jack’s model does.

            • and shooting laser beams all over the place like ghost-buster

            • Missionary Kid

              I don’t believe they could scan your phone, but the fact that your refused to give them your name, address and phone number probably set their radar off.

              Whenever I go into an org, I have a fake name, address, and phone number ready, along with a cover story. If you have someone you really dislike, use their info.

              The cans are, indeed hollow, and if you lift one finger or reduce pressure, you can get the needle to peg one way or another. The part of the polygraph (mislabelled lie detector) that measures galvanic skin response clips on to the fingers, and isn’t dependent on a person’s strength of grip.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              Interesting!! The guy told me to hold the cans “loosely”,,, but I asked for further instructions, as I would’ve held them tightly, or super-loose.

              But yes, I’ve heard this galvanic skin reader is a crude “lie detector”

            • Missionary Kid

              I was with Tory Christman on Hollywood Boulevard, and $cientology had set up a table in front of the Dolby theater. They didn’t recognize Tory, and asked us if we wanted to try out the e-meter. Tory was on one end of the tables, and I was on another.

              To get a reaction from Tory and calibrate the meter, her auditor asked her some questions while she was holding the cans. Tory was asked to think of something that had upset her, and the meter reacted. She told the auditor that she had been ripped off for close to a hundred thousand dollars. The e-meter verified it. Once it was established that it was, indeed a painful experience, Tory revealed that the Chirch of $cientology had ripped her off, and that she’d been an auditor herself. That rocked the auditor’s world.

              On the other end of the table, I lifted one finder on the cans, and it threw their calibration off, so they couldn’t audit me. They tried to sell me a copy of the latest version of Dianetics. I asked what was different about it, and was told that the print was larger so it was easier to read.

              I declined to buy a copy, and told them that I’d read it decades earlier, and I wasn’t impressed then.

              According to Tory, she hasn’t seen a table out there since. They may have put another one up, but when she’s been there, she hasn’t seen one.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Now they do it at a kiosk in the Glendale Galleria mall.

            • Missionary Kid

              What time of the week are they there? Tory might like to visit, or, the next time I’m in L.A., I’ll go by.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Not sure but I think they were there everyday. Their kiosk was near Target on the first floor, right in front of Papaya. I looked at the Galleria’s online directory and don’t see it listed but I’m not sure it was ever listed on there. I wouldn’t be surprised if they requested to be omitted from the directory. It does show an ABC Mouse kiosk nearby though and another one without a name just “kiosk”. It would be sweet if they recently were given the the boot.
              Here they are a few months ago (refresh)
              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/86875d27089e963a5a97734863589bfdc77f8ddb94780cd3f47519b41d414cb0.jpg

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2a924a3b3bed4dc723c815a8e667d0084a84fde6bacc2a5055e4c6267bc3435.png

            • Missionary Kid

              Remind me sometime after Christmas, because I may take a run by the kiosk.

            • Taffy Sinclair

              That is the BEST!!! I love Magoo’s u-toob channel, she roxx!! But to put the “auditor” in their place?? Pure beauty.

            • Missionary Kid

              The poor woman was obviously one of those recruits from a foreign country (Mexico or South America). I hope she got her passport. I also think that the person supervising the table, obviously born an American, got assigned a lower condition and might have ended up in the RPF for not recognizing Tory.

              Tory has said that when she noticed that many of the sea org were foreigners that it was a sign of how much Co$ has shrunk.

              Another time, Tory walked up to one of the tables in another location while someone was supposedly being audited, and noticed that the e-meter wasn’t even turned on, and called them on it. They were gone in 20 minutes.

            • And the polygraph doesn’t actually perform as advertised (there’s a link to Pen and Teller’s characteristically acerbic assessment here https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/07/06/the-story-of-the-e-meter-part-4-could-mathisons-e-meter-ever-have-worked/

  • whingeybingey

    I’m at an interfaith homeless shelter. Scientology has interfaith by the short and curlies.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Did you just leave the $cions? Not sure I understand. So they have involvement w/ the shelter. Hope you are Ok!

      • whingeybingey

        No – I can’t blame them for this predicament. I managed that on my own. I was having a chat to the shelter manager the other day, and she was like, “Well, the people IN Scientology don’t think that about it,” when I called it a cult, and so that was how we got on the topic. She ended up saying that she had her own private thoughts, but as a representative of Interfaith – that was their position. And I was like, “Yeah, I know how hard they have worked to be legitimised by Interfaith>” My DSA friend in Canberra was very involved with them, plus I talked to some Interfaith people at Australian Parliament house one time on the subject.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiNM5MhDa5Q
    I don’t remember hearing about this. Fucking horrible! Isn’t that last name familiar?

    • Supper Powers

      Stockenbrock is Lou’s last name. I believe she’s DM’s communicator and “friend”. There are pic of them on the intertube together.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        “Let’s add to this the fact that Miscavige ordered Laurisse to divorce
        her husband, Uwe Stuckenbrock, and Uwe was sent to the Los Angeles RPF,
        despite the fact that he was suffering from Multiple Sclerosis. Uwe,
        abandoned and forgotten by Laurisse and subject to stress and hard
        labor, spent years on the RPF, and eventually died there.”

        • Qbird

          He died in the fall of 2008.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            http://anonforgreatjustice.blogspot.com/2008/12/markus-stuckenbrock-just-exactly-how.html Horrible.
            In the case of other staff members of the Sea Org, people with degenerative diseases would sometimes be off-loaded to a family or nursing home. Uwe knew too much. He was the head of security for the Gold Base (also known as International or INT Base). the West Coast Kremlin of organized Scientology. Here under the thumb of David Miscavige are the offices of the Church of Scientology, its propaganda and intelligence apparatus OSA (the Office of Special Affairs), and its front organizations. It is also the stage for Potemkin village productions of utopian Scientology happiness for Tom Cruise and other celebrities. Uwe knew too much and was kept under tight control of the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force). until he died.
            Edit; “There is no love and no heart in Scientology” Uwe’s brother Markus.

            • Draco

              I have a suspicion he could also have dished the dirt on DM’s relationship with Lou – for that alone, DM would never have let him go. Poor man.

        • Liberated

          That’s the saddest story ever…when will this insanity stop?

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Looked but can’t find where any justice was ever served. A friend sent me the link,

    • Sherbet

      The “leaked letter” is a bit suspect to me. It was pretty frank for an RPFer. Still, I believe every word of the story, no matter who leaked it.

      Rabbi Headinthesand should look at this video.

    • Missionary Kid

      That’s Laurisse Schtuppenfuhrer, DM’s “communicator’s” ex-husband.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        (see below) her last name has now been wiped clean.

      • Draco

        Schtuppenfuhrer…
        Snortle!

  • iampissed

    Richard ( my father) passed today at 5:10pm west coast. I would personally like to thank this community. You have let me vent, say bad words, beat up on furniture, totally helped to distract me in a hospital ICU and in the end I KNEW that you were with me for the 2.5 hrs it took to take him over to the other side. The hospital was great…they did not let him suffer at all. In total he had about 15 minutes of try to fight it.
    He is in a better place now, for all the efforts that YOU and the hospital gave….yes I truly believe that.
    AGAIN my forever grateful THANKS. To those who are just joining here after what has been coming out
    due to Tony, Leah and Mike and so many others. They don’t have the power to keep your stories out
    of the public…keep the storied going and if you think you have something of importance to,say,take to TonyHe will let ya know if you are bringing something new or he has his ear to the ground on it already.
    To OSA….what can I say if a WOG death helps your STATS, i hope I have helped your week.

    • Supper Powers

      Get some rest. πŸ’—πŸ’—πŸ’—

    • Draco

      RIP Richard. It’s 7:00am here in South Africa, Iam. I woke up during the night and thought of you and your Dad. So, all over the world, Richard had people thinking about him as he passed from this life.

      Take care of yourself, now. (((Hugs)))

    • Todd Tomorrow

      So sorry for your loss and not suffering is such a blessing.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      My thoughts are with you.

    • Sherbet

      I’ve said it before: I can’t believe someone or something so good and so loved can simply cease to exist. There has to be something else. Virtual hugs, iam. This community comes together again, in good times and in sad times.

    • Frodis73

      I am going to echo what Supper said…try and get some rest as I know you are emotionally drained. Many hugs.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I’m so sorry, iampissed. You and your family are in my thoughts. It is a blessing that you were there with him. I was with my dad when he passed and I still treasure that moment together at the end.

    • TexasBroad

      I’m so sorry for your pain and loss. Grief is a long journey…be good to yourself on the way. Hugs to you.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      You and your family are In my thoughts, Sorry Iampissed. Hugs.

    • lori banister

      No one can touch your pain right now. But some understand. Edit for friend kiss X. . You are not alone.

    • I’m sorry for your loss.

    • Liberated

      I’m so sorry sweetheart, I’m always happy to read a comment from you, you’ve made the bunker a good place too.
      Sometimes our comments are funny and make us laugh and sometimes they’re so sad and make us cry, but what’s important is it’s okay to say the truth about what we feel.
      The only thing I know about grief is don’t keep it inside, cry all you want, I know everyone here will listen.
      You’re in my prayers.

    • Big BunkerHugs to you. And I’ll say it again, love in. Grief out.

    • Juicer77

      Big squeezy hugs. He will always be with you.

    • MrsLurksALot

      ((Hugs!!))

    • ReallyMGM

      I am sorry for your loss. {{{hugs}}}

    • FredEX2

      Iampissed, so very sorry for the loss of your Dad. Sending you thoughts of love & peace.

  • Nat-leficent
  • Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath now available on Amazon

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MYU2WGJ

  • 2016….Zsa Zsa…RIP

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I loved when she smacked that cop who pulled her Roll’s over for expired tabs.

      • Missionary Kid

        Sorry, I’ve got no sympathy for the first Kardashian: famous for being famous.
        Her sister, at least had a modicum of talent.

        • Sherbet

          Wasn’t she a staple on Jack Paar’s show? I seem to remember her being witty and clever back then. (Not the late night show, the Friday night show.)

          • Missionary Kid

            Zsa Zsa was witty and clever, but she was also on because she was outrageous. She was a clever gold digger, IMO.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Yeah, she (kim) admitted she probably isn’t that relevant but for starting out from showing off her sextape she’s now worth over 180 million after taxes, Made me ill.

          • Sherbet

            I think Mish is equating Zsa Zsa with Kim Kardashian. Eva Gabor had some talent, I guess, as star of “Green Acres.”

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I thought that was odd but I’d just thought I’d toss in my 3 cents. I was the happiest guy in the world when, Here comes Honey Boo Boo beat those kardashians in ratings.

            • Sherbet

              There’s no accounting for taste.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              How is the puppy?

            • Sherbet

              I don’t have a puppy. Some other Bunkeroo?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Must have you confused with someone else Sherb.

            • Robert Hanna Moore

              Green Acres wasn’t Zsa Zsa?

            • Missionary Kid

              No. It was her sister, Eva.

            • Robert Hanna Moore

              I knew that but then saw this google result. Thanks spacecoastdaily.

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/709b511a09551074aa7279f98b4b22d5679b3db1e913ffd7226a4ff2c0941190.jpg

            • TheLurkingHorror

              In the words of Nick At Night (many years ago) “Eva will not harm you”. πŸ™‚

        • Eva was a marvelous comedian who got the joke about herself. Zsa Zsa never did.

          • coonellie

            Eva was wonderful in every role she played. I adored her in Ellery Queen, but my fav was her role in the Hart to Hart episode.

    • Jack99
      • Intergalactic Walrus

        We can only imagine how the world would be different today if Zsa Zsa had started her own religion and LRH had starred in “The Queen of Outer Space”. *sigh*

        • Sherbet

          The costume wouldn’t fit him.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Didn’t LRH used to make the messenger kids rub lotion on his legs & feet, put on his socks & shoes and dress him? What a diva. A slinky red dress with a long split would have been appropriate.

            • Sherbet

              Sure, if it came in a Plus size.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Zsa Zsa would never have had a problem with BTs; they would have worshiped her πŸ˜‰

          • Missionary Kid

            Who knows whether or not they would have worshiped her, but she would claim that they did.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Rumor has it that DM is Zsa Zsa and Xenu’s illegitimate and abandoned love child πŸ˜‰

            • Missionary Kid

              *Laughing* It almost sounds possible.

      • Best moment in the movie, when Zsa Zsa utters her immortal line, “I hate dat qveen!”

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Don’t tell me she was locked in an opiated hell and perished in her bathroom or she was skydiving and her reserve shoot failed.

    • Missionary Kid

      Local Zsa Zsa story. (Palm Springs, CA area).

      Zsa Zsa’s chauffeur driven Rolls pulls into a local luxury car dealership at 4:00 pm on a Friday, when the mechanics are either finishing up their work or putting their tools away, with a minor problem. The service manager, who would normally have her come back on a Monday, but recognizing she’s a celebrity, asks one of the mechanics if he would stay late and take a look at the problem.

      Zsa Zsa, recognizing that she’s being done a favor, thanks the service manager profusely, saying, “Dahlink, tell me what you drink.” At first, the service manager turns her down, but she keeps insisting. Finally, he tells her his favorite drink, and she turns to her chauffeur and tells him to run over to a nearby liquor store and buy a bottle for the service manager, and, by the way, she doesn’t have any cash on her, so she’ll pay him back when they get home.

      The chauffeur just looks at her and says, “I’ve heard that one before.”

      Zsa Zsa was notorious for not only underpaying her servants but also for not paying her bills, in spite of amassing a fortune from each of her many marriages. She was sued multiple times for pay and debts.

      • pssst….the body’s not cold yet

        • Missionary Kid

          I had no respect for her in life, and none in death.

          Biggest cheapskate in the Palm Springs area: Bob Hope. He at least paid his bills, but was a lousy tipper. He also insisted that his name be prominently displayed if he donated. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but while he never got paid for all the time and effort he put in entertaining the troops, he held all the rights to the performances.

          Most generous person: Frank Sinatra. Sinatra story: When he came out to pick up his car from the valet, he asked him what the biggest tip he’d ever gotten was. When the valet told him $100, he gave him $200. Who gave him the $100 tip? Sinatra.

          I’ve talked to people who did work for him. Sinatra was a PITA to work for because he was so exacting, but he always paid very well. He gave to charities large and small, and didn’t insist on publicity.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        My Great Grandmother had a school friend who lived on the same Island as Princess Margret. I guess she was the same way to the point where it was annoying. She’d send her help over to get dinner supplies, liquor …and never offer to return anything or pay for it. Once she borrowed an employee for a party she was throwing for two days, Nope never paid her either so Nyda started saying no to everything and Margret still tried to “borrow” things.

        • Missionary Kid

          Margaret didn’t have a good reputation. I do have a bit of sympathy for her because she, as the sister of the queen, was sort of a useless appendage, and she wasn’t able to marry a love of her life, Captain Peter Townsend, because he’d been divorced.

          IIRC, the royal family had to do a lot of PR work because of unthinking things she did.

  • “I thmell pussy…”

    • Draco

      Yup … not powerful or famous enough to grab it.

      I’ll see myself out…

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Tony Ortega

      …proving my personal theory that after numerous guests like Louis Theroux telling him such things about Scientology, he never let it penetrate his skull.

      • Draco

        Isn’t it waaay past your bedtime, young man?!

        • Tony Ortega

          Not if you want a post in the morning!

          • Draco

            Coffee? Espresso? Cup cakes?

            • Tony Ortega

              TCM and fear.

            • Draco

              “Traditional Chinese Medicine?”

              ??

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              Tom Cruise Money..?

            • Draco

              Oh good… I’m not the only one that’s confused πŸ˜€

            • TCM – “Cape Fear” 1962
              http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.html

            • Draco

              Thank you πŸ™‚

            • Missionary Kid

              Turner Classic Movies

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              You’re watching Silent Sundays?

    • madame duran

      Not sure how to interpret his tweet. Does he think that Scientology is truly crazy or does he think Leah Remini’s docuseries on Scientology is hard to believe? Does he like the show or is he too shocked to give further comment?

      • BosonStark

        Rogan has always thought of Scientology as crazy, and expresses that frequently.

        • Juicer77

          I’m not sure he understands the mind-screw involved in such a thought control group. But kudos for having guests on to talk about it.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • coonellie

    Shevack is seriously disturbed. I could say more, but why bother?

  • BosonStark

    Best new religious blog with under 100 unsolicited views…and the winner goes to…

  • Newiga

    The main picture for this article is hilarious. πŸ˜€ How funny it would be if TC was blogging for Scientology. “You don’t know the history of XYZ and here’s why”

  • John Prince

    This parasite calls himself a Rabbi ? If he Pulled his head out of his ASS once in a while he MIGHT just be able to see the Light. .

    • And I’m Cute, Too

      Yes, he does seem to have an acute case of cranial rectal inversion. Or at least head-in-the-sand syndrome. So intent on seeing the good in groups and people that he closes his eyes on crimes and violations of human rights.

      He says… β€œIf I were to take the rumors and gossip of all these churches seriously, whether it’s Scientology, Muslim groups, Jewish groups, I would not accomplish my goal.”

      But you might just help protect some good people from being harmed, Rabbi, or prevent bad people from doing harm. What goal is more important than that?

      All of them have difficulties because there is no such thing as a religion that isn’t human.

      Yes, but there are religions that aren’t abusive. Scientology is a criminal syndicate, so they don’t qualify.

      There is good that is done, the human rights work is good, the interreligious work is good.”

      The “good” is done for a price. The human rights violations are evil. The interreligious work is a PR scam.

  • IHC

    I’ve read the extentive article at the NY Post about Cruise moving to Florida into his luxurious spread. He obviously have been preparing that move for a while since he’s off-loading a few properties. It also stated that Scientology is dropping in membership quite drastically. The post expressed that Cruise move to Florida – designed by Miscavige – is to give scientology the look and feel of importance and do a bit of damage control.
    I don’t understand that this Rabbi keeps using the label ‘Christendom’ because use of this word delegitimizes Christian who follow Christ. Christendom is used in The Bible to mean that Christianity is a false religion.
    These men of faith are obviously overlooking the truth that scientology is not a religion but a profiting enterprise that extorts money from their followers by selling products like books, courses and more.
    We know how they received their tax exempt – via distortion by overwhelming the IRS with lawsuit after lawsuit as well as several lawsuits simultaneously – overwhelming the IRS and causing taxpayers millions in litigation and lawsuits. That is how scientology extorted their tax-exempt – a nuisance that the IRS just wanted to go away.
    It says a lot about these men of respective faith that they don’t take a minute out of their time and investigate abuses and more that Miscavige and gang commits on regular bases and destroy families in the process. Then again – money talks – and Miscavige has lots of it. After all – Cruise is the sucker and gives it to him while Miscavige has the best tool available to stay relevant.

  • Sydjazz

    easy to make an award site

  • kadepro

    I’d like to see Miscaviage in the octagon with one of “his” scorned followers that he attacked. He’d get a beatdown of his life with nobody to defend his sissy cult boy attitude. Faster than a Rhonda Rousey beat down.