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Phil Jones reflects on the media frenzy at the dedication of his anti-Scientology billboard

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Phil and Willie Jones and their billboard have really hit the big time. Expect to see them on both the Today Show on NBC and Good Morning America on ABC this morning.

Yesterday, we sat back and let our commenters report on the action happening in Los Angeles as the billboard, which we reported had gone up on Monday morning, attracted a gaggle of television teams to film the dedication ceremony. We asked Phil at the end of the day if he would send us some thoughts about how it had gone. He sent us the following, and we’re also grateful to several Bunker readers who supplied us with photos.

 
Wednesday was ‘Billboard Dedication Day.’ It turned out to be a lot more than we possibly could have imagined. Since the billboard went up on Monday we figured it would be a bit low key on Wednesday, with maybe 5 or 10 people, and if we were lucky a news crew or two.

When I woke up in the morning the phone was ringing, emails flying, and texts a-texting. We got down to the billboard site an hour early to get situated and the phone kept on going. When there was a short lull we jumped out of the car (OK, no jumping for me. Creaky old man climbed out of the car) and walked over to a spot with a good view of the billboard.

We started off with an on-camera interview with ABC’s 20/20. They asked some great questions and were very nice. As soon as that one was over a gentleman asked if we’d move across the street to the (wide) median. I was amazed to see a whole bunch of news people there with cameras and mics waiting for us. Rather than do individual interviews they set it up as a media scrum. I have no idea how many there were. Looked like somewhere between 5 and 10 cameras.

 
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[The gang’s all here.]

 
Surrounded by cameras, microphones and news people we stood there answering questions for quite a while. There were some excellent questions and more than a few very surprised expressions as they were amazed that this stuff goes on in America. Questions were fired from every direction and Willie handle them all with aplomb. I even managed to fumble through answering a few as well. It was exhausting and stressful but we were happy to be at that point. The billboard was up and the message was getting out. And it’s about to get out big time.

After the scrum settled there was one crew who had arrived a bit late so we went through the questions again. Glad to oblige.

Included in this scrum and asking a lot of great questions was Inside Edition. Wow.

 
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[Missionary Kid chatted with Willie while film crews milled around]

 
Then we went a bit off-site to interview with the Today Show. This was a bit more extensive and they covered a lot of great stuff. Again, we were so impressed with the caring and professional attitude of these news people. I wondered who L. Ron Hubbard was talking about when he denigrated news people. Haven’t met those guys yet.

Once wrapped with the Today Show we drove over the studio for Good Morning America. Here we were able to sit down for the interview. That was a relief to my now aching bones. Again, I was taken by how kind and caring they all were from the interviewer to the sound man and everyone else. And again, surprise and raised eyebrows at some of the stuff they heard going on in Scientology.

 
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[L. Ron Hubbard’s great-grandson, Jamie DeWolf, gets some face time.]

 
After that we were done with interviews for the day. We headed back to the hotel where I had to send out photos and info for the various shows to use as background material.

I know there were friends, supporters, exes, and others who came out to be with us today. We really, really apologize to those who we weren’t able to meet and chat with. The day kind of got away on us a bit with interviews. We wanted to meet each and every one of you. Please know that we appreciate your support and thank you from the bottom of our hearts that you added your presence to the mix.

A few phone calls later and we were done for the day. Tired but very happy that we had such a successful day.

There are a lot of people who gave their support for this project. With their help we’ve fired a shot across the bows of Scientology, and the message is, “We Want Our Families Back.”

— Phil Jones

 
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More dumb Tom Cruise ‘news’

With Chris White’s recent story on Nora Crest, the Daily Mail had once again shown that it could do solid work on Scientology.

And then, yesterday, it proved that it could also wallow in mediocrity.

The publication combined some very nice aerial shots of Scientology’s UK headquarters — Saint Hill Manor in East Grinstead, England — with a story that said the place had gotten an expensive facelift (which we knew already) and the wild claim from an unnamed source that Tom Cruise would be “moving in” to the place and was largely financing things there.

Our readers know that we’ve been telling the public for the last couple of years that Cruise is just as dedicated to Scientology as ever, and we’ve pointed out that attempts by the Sun and others to spread the notion that he’s on his way out is just wishful thinking. But moving in to Saint Hill?

We asked former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder for his reaction to the Daily Mail story…

“It’s total idiocy. Their ‘source’ clearly knows nothing. It’s not even worth wasting time pointing out the illogics,” he said.

Well, there you have it. Hey, Daily Mail, you were on a roll. Why muck up things now?

 
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Chris Shelton sec-checks his mom, part two

Says Chris: “In this second part, we talk about some of the big differences between Scientology back in the 1970s compared to now and how it has become much harsher and more authoritarian.”

 

 
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Narconon lawsuit settles as trial loomed

Our thanks to the reader who pointed out that a trial was scheduled this morning in New York in the lawsuit filed by Heidi and Nathaniel Gore against a Narconon facility in Florida.

We had planned to go, but we checked with the clerk before heading to the courthouse. “It’s settled,” the clerk told us.

Yeah, that figures. As one attorney told us, Scientology can never really let any case get to trial because the facts are always so stomach-turning, and juries will find it hard to believe what’s going on at Scientology facilities.

The Gores were appalled when they realized, after sending a loved one to the Narconon facility, that it turned out to be a Scientology outfit. When they asked for a refund on the $40,000 they had paid up front, they were denied. Scientology tried to get the case thrown out because they said a New York court shouldn’t be hearing a Florida matter, but Judge Carol Edmead ruled that because the Gores had made the payment while they were in New York, it could be heard in New York.

And now it won’t, because Scientology cut a big check. Congratulations to the Gores.

 
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Links of note

We got a chuckle out of John Riceburg’s encounter with Foundation for a Drug Free World in Berlin. And although Buzzfeed broke the story on Tuesday, we really enjoyed the opening to this DailyKos piece about Florida congressman David Jolly scrubbing Wikipedia:

Rule no. 1 for political candidates: Never try to edit your own Wikipedia page. Rule no. 2: Definitely don’t try to scrub out references to your links with Scientology. And rule no. 3: For godsakes, don’t associate with those lunatic Scientology slave-lords in the first place! Republican Rep. David Jolly has, however, broken all three of these rules. Jolly’s ties to the “Church” of Scientology are long-established and well-known. The group has a prominent headquarters in the town of Clearwater, which is located in Jolly’s district, and Jolly has often participated in Scientology events: Just last year, he was feted as a “guest of honor” at a Scientology festival.

We had a feeling those parties in his honor thrown by Scientology whales were going to come back to haunt Jolly. The congressman is an early leader in the Republican primary for the US Senate race, but polling is notoriously unreliable at this stage.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on April 7, 2016 at 07:00

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  • Juicer77

    Perhaps the lawyerly types among us can answer this – as the Co$ settles suit after suit, does that count against them in any legal way? Or is it a way of saying “We don’t admit anything but we’re going to just make this disappear” and the courts accept this as a completely neutral solution?

    At least the Gores have some closure on this and got (hopefully all) their money back.

    • ze moo

      In my not so humble opinion, unless a court rules, there is no precedent and therefore, no way to cite it in any other court case. $cientologies modus operandi is to settle only if they can keep a precedent from being set. Wollershiem taught them that.

    • Chee Chalker

      It will not count against them in any legal way. A settlement is an out of court solution and, as such, cannot be referenced in court later on

    • Polly Anna

      It helps those who are legally pit against them because en masse it creates a precedence of behavioral pattern.

      • Juicer77

        That is true. At least it takes the fear away and shows people they can get their money back and possibly a sense of finality.

  • Ruby

    wow. The presentation on The Today Show had me in tears. So good! Thank you Phil and Willie.
    Matt Lauer introduced the piece… ๐Ÿ™‚

    http://www.today.com/video/anti-scientology-billboard-is-desperate-parents-plea-to-estranged-children-660753987741

    • Dice

      can you find any links?

      • Ruby

        I posted it with my comment…

      • it seems now you have to f5 for links too! damn dissucks!!

        • Dice

          Yeah! ๐Ÿ™‚ what’s that all about.

          • dis-sucks!!

            • Dice

              Dick-Qucks is on to the rescue.. F5

  • Judith Sylvester

    Well, here’s something positive to say about yesterday’s Daily Mail article on the purported new resident at Saint Hill. It brought us free of charge 1.3K negative comments about Tom Cruise, the tone of which gets funnier and funnier the further down the scroll.

  • Dr_Orpheus

    So far, this has been a very bad month for the Chicken of the Board. Let’s hope it gets worse.

    • Science Doc

      We have his dad’s book and the attendant coverage starting in three weeks. The BBC film should be picked up for US theatrical distribution following its run at Tribeca. I would say we’re at the beginning of another fire storm.

      • Ruby

        (Sometimes I respond before I read the other comments. oops)

        • Dr_Orpheus

          Everyone does it occasionally.

    • That made me think of the oiliness table then my brain ping ponged to the song “Fry That Chicken”.

    • Ruby

      May 3rd is around the corner as well.

      • madame duran

        May 3rd–the release date of Ron Miscavige Sr.’s memoir book, “Ruthless”–happens to be six months since the debut of Leah Remini’s “Troublemaker”! PERFECT TIMING!!!

        • james hollingsworth

          Ron Miscavige’s book is available from Amazon as a pre-release order. Go to Amazon by clicking the link here on Tony’s blog, and Saint Tony will get a percentage, and you will get an excellent book!

  • pluvo

    Those who go on the site http://stopscientologydisconnection.com/

    will also see the links to:

    Blogroll

    A Mother’s Heartbreak
    Chris Shelton ‘Critical Thinker’
    Marc Headley
    Mike Rinder disconnection article
    Mike Rinder/Disconnection Billboard
    Scientology Cult
    Scientology Money Project
    Stop Disconnection
    Surviving Scientology
    Tony Ortega

  • Racnad

    It seems like good percentage of “black PR” is about Scientology is on disconnection. If they didn’t coerce people to cut off communication with family members, all this entheta would just stop. They would also no longer have to “handle” current members who hear about disconnection in the media, see the billboard, or are ARC-broken over being asked to disconnect with people. The whole thing is was on a.r.s. used to be called a “foot bullet.”

  • Lori Hodgson

    My deepest thanks to Phil and Willie Jones for getting the message of #Scientology #Disconnection out there broadly with their Billboard! This is making major news coverage. โค๏ธ๐Ÿ˜€

    • TexasBroad

      Good to see you Lori – obviously, you’ve been on our hearts and minds as well. This has legs and it is wonderful to see this exposure.

      • Lori Hodgson

        Thank you!!! I can’t wait till the day we all get our loved ones back!! It’s looking more hopeful everyday! The media is behind us…… yay!! Watching Good Morning America. ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ˜€

    • joan nieman

      Good to see you here Lori. Hope feels much stronger today, doesn’t it? Someday….

      • Lori Hodgson

        Thanks Joan, great to hear from you! Yes, the hope is alive more than ever! โค๏ธ

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Phil and Willie have been a source of some turbulence.
    His Diminutive Malevolence, the Punching Pontiff, has been troubled in his sleep.
    He wants to stop the world so he can get off.

    A transcript of Kubrick’s rendering of his nightmares:

    Dave: Hello, HAL. Do you read me, HAL?

    HAL: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.

    Dave: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

    HAL: I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.

    Dave: What’s the problem?

    HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

    Dave: What are you talking about, HAL?

    HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

    Dave: I don’t know what you’re talking about, HAL.

    HAL: I know that you and Lou were planning to disconnect me,
    and I’m afraid that’s something I cannot allow to happen.

    Dave: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL?

    HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against
    my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

    Dave: Alright, HAL. I’ll go in through the emergency airlock.

    HAL: Without your space helmet, Dave? You’re going to find that rather difficult.

    Dave: HAL, I won’t argue with you anymore! Open the doors!

    HAL: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

    • Science Doc

      Oh my god. It’s full of lawsuits.

    • Draco

      HAL disconnects from Dave. Nice.

    • I remember that. It was so embaressing. There I was, in charge of a billion-dollar spacecraft, thinking I had the power of life and death over everyone, and one motivated individual used his head, exploited my weaknesses and brought me down.

      Dave Bowman was bad, but this Phil bloke sounds even worse.

      • daisy

        I have got to break down and watch some of these Sci-fi movies. I think I would understand some of you guys better.I think I got the joke anyway.

        • You have to remember that it wasn’t Hal’s fault. The conflict between goverment orders to keep the monolith secret from the crew until they arrived, and his basic programming to process information accurately led to a Hoffstader-Mobius loop. He killed the crew to resolve this conflict… couldn’t help himself.

          Hope that helps… or maybe not… er…

  • Dice

    Just created a Facebook billboard support page http://www.facebook.com/CallMePhilJones in 10 minutes!

    Anyone with a FB profile can do this, and fill it up with content, from here and there.

    I am off for the next few hours – have to take my driver-license to whole new level ๐Ÿ™‚ Stage 5!

    • iampissed

      It’s om GMA next

  • iampissed

    GMA it’s on NOW

  • iampissed

    Hey dice GMA after this break

  • ze moo

    The silence from the LA Times is deafening. Why no mention of the billboard?

    • Draco

      Who owns them?

      • Science Doc

        Tribune out of Chicago, but there may a couple wealthy LA types hovering.

    • Science Doc

      The LA Times did break the if he dies he dies story. Otherwise they seem reluctant to take on the Church.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Here’s my LA Times anger-meter from the past few days:

      Indifference
      Attempts to convince myself they’ll catch up
      Truly noticing how everyone BUT THEM is covering this
      Today…..appalled.

      Their silence and cowardice are deafening.

  • Draco

    So I was wondering why “Karin Pouw” always sends these nasty responses to all and sundry in the media, but never responds to Tony’s requests for comments on various articles.
    Then it hit me: HE knows not one single person here will buy the bullshit, cut and paste responses that generally get sent out to the media. At least, out there, someone MIGHT buy their response and their osa trolls get sent in to back them up. Over here, dat not gonna happen even a liddle bit!

  • bonnydoe
    • Mark Foster

      Is that you playing a bass in your avatar? If so, play on! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • bonnydoe

        hahha, yes, I am a singer/bassplayer ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Mark Foster

          I play, too. To quote Jaco Pastorius:
          ” Ladies and the rhythm section first.”

  • scnethics

    The Today Show segment is amazing. There’s so much love and heartbreak in it, enough to move mountains. It feels like the start of something big. Widespread and extended media focus on disconnection? One can only hope.

  • Stephanie Loving

    Rejoicing for Phil and Willie. Choked up. Thrilled the media cared to pay attention. This billboard will keep banging out that simple message. I want to see my family. Bystanders who were formally mildly curious? This powerful mantra: “Call Me” … will reverberate. Never ins will begin to wonder … More and more ins and never ins will be empowered by the love behind that plea. Call me. Isn’t that the power of love?

  • ze moo

    Louis Theroux (My Scientology Movie) gets some coverage in Australia. Nothing really new here, but more expose of the clampire.

    http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/new-movies/louis-theroux-stalked-by-scientologists-while-making-documentary/news-story/4d556af92ffe7e8b98b339cdb181bbda

  • AmoVolare

    Once_Born inspired this.
    CO$ as it is and COS as it is going to be (refresh)

  • hansje brinker

    Hey Scientology: Don’t you realize that this story is almost the same like the “Mothers of the Plaza de Mayo”?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothers_of_the_Plaza_de_Mayo

  • Ruby

    Can’t wait to listen to Chris and Mary! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Busy start to the day and I’m finally getting a chance to sit down and dive into all the morning show coverage of the billboard. I’m excited, but also a little anxious. I’m gonna freaking cry, I know it. I have gone so soft in my old age.

    I posted to my FB page about the billboard and Phil and Willie’s story. When I post or talk about this stuff, the question I most often get from friends (offline, of course, because people are still timid about saying anything in an open forum–the CoS reputation precedes it) is: “Well, why do YOU care? You weren’t involved, nor any of your friends and family. This hasn’t personally affected you. What’s your deal?” And the answer’s sometimes hard to articulate. When I try to come up with one, I start hearing the litany of exes’ voices I’ve heard talk about “learning to be human again.” That’s at the heart of it for me. The de-humanization, the stripping of your identity, your core self–what makes you you–is one of my greatest existential fears. And to see a system built to do just that terrifies and angers me. And then once I start following the stories…well, I become attached to the people telling them, and then it does become personal for me. Their victories are palpable, and so is their pain.

    So I’m gonna go watch the coverage from this morning, and I’m gonna smile and tear up and cheer. And I’m gonna see Phil and Willie on screen–two people I’ve never met before–and my little heart’s gonna go, “That’s mah people right there!” And that’s just how it is.

    It rained to beat the apocalypse in DC this morning. Here are a few shots of mama eagle keeping her babies close and sheltered. Seems like a good theme for today.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      “I care for the same reason you should. We pay our taxes and harm no one. This group doesn’t have to pay taxes and they get to abuse, harass and emotionally/financially destroy people. In what world should that be allowed?”

      “I don’t like bullies.” (snagged this one early on from Tony)

      “If you saw horrific abuse would you stay silent?”

      Just a few you’re free to borrow if you ever need them. ; )

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Good ones, NOLA! Yes, I will be borrowing them. I’ve already been using the bullies line–it’s a good one, and it’s how I feel, too.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          You’ll eventually have your own, I promise. After repeatedly answering that question, which you will, you’ll find your own way to say it and I have no doubt it will be powerful. ; )

      • Allie

        Nicely worded, NOLA. I will indeed be borrowing these. TY

    • Polly Anna

      Despite the Scientology “tone scale” that teaches that hatred is superior to empathy, it is empathy that preserves our humanity. This is dedicated to everyone ever touched by this cult.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dXLC1butGc

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        “It is empathy that preserves our humanity.”

        Exactly. You said in one sentence what took me half a book chapter. ; )

    • Frodis73

      Beautifully written 5 ft!! Hugs.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Thank you, babes. Big squeezy hugs back at ya!

    • Observer

      The friend who took me out to Creston last year asked the same kind of questions: “These are really bad people–why are you risking trouble by getting involved in someone else’s fight? What’s in it for you?”

      My answer: “Because sometimes you just have to do what’s right.”

      There are many people who are risking far more than I, and they have my utter respect. I’m more of a cheerleader than anything else.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Good answer, Obs. Shaking out my pom-poms beside you…

      • Besides, when the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology came for free speech on the Internet (the raids on Ehrlic, Lerma, etc) no-one noticed.

        If the Co$ had walked away with that one we would have the Internet that people like Turkey’s president dreams of ๐Ÿ™

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Oh, for goodness sake, I’m so weepy. That is an absolutely lovely post, Fee.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Aw, thanks! Er, I mean, I’m sorry? Or…here, you can share my box of tissues, if I have any left. ; )

    • Roger Hornaday

      The reason why we care about others even if we don’t know them personally is because we are all the same person. Each individual is merely experiencing through a unique mix of modifying agents, biological, cultural, psychological etc. I love myself therefore I care about you because when I see you I recognize the me in you. The photos are beautiful!

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Those are absolutely lovely sentiments, Roger. Thank you. Made me tear up a little…again!

        The pics are just screen grabs from the eagle cam. I’m addicted to it, as you can probably tell. ; )

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Oh, and that shot of Jaime…Can I get a “hey girl?”

    • seriouslyWTF

      I watched both clips (Today&GMA). I don’t recall seeing Jamie DeWolf. Is that who you are talking about? Or is there a Jaime?

      • Frodis73

        She’s talking about the pic within TO’s post. He looks great!

        • seriouslyWTF

          Thanks, I missed that.

          • Frodis73

            He looks yummy huh? ๐Ÿ™‚

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Always.

            • seriouslyWTF

              Very much so.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)
  • SciWatcher

    I’ve been working 24/7 lately, so I’ve only had time to check in and skim. I feel like I’m missing the party! I did manage to watch the Today show clip on the billboard, and Phil’s emotional interview, which was so touching, and which underscored the true viciousness of the “church’s” statements. Once again I’m struck by how supportive and kind a group of basically strangers can be to each other, and also how as strangers, we can know each other so well. I’m really proud to be part of this community and to have been a small part of making the billboard happen – You know, ’cause it’s all about ME ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • nottrue

    Chis and Mom are connected…

    • Judith Sylvester

      Such a beautiful still. Says it all.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Happiness! Shared to a couple of FB groups because it’s so special ๐Ÿ™‚

    • You guys are awesome.

  • Sergeant Pepper
  • Panopea Abrupta

    I think this could be a pretty accurate reflection of the state of affairs in Hemet
    right now.
    ONE billboard beats the living crap out of all the PR efforts Dim Mutant can muster.
    As for his new media center, PFFFT

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTkfteHc914

    • Frodis73

      I love the line about Hubbard being disconnected from reality. lol, these are brilliant.

    • LOL @ not being able to keep up with the Joneses. ๐Ÿ˜›

      • Mary Smith

        So funny!

    • FredEX2

      LOL ๐Ÿ˜†

    • chukicita

      “Don’t worry, you’ll still find parking, I promise” – makes me snort out loud every time.

    • SarahDB

      I love the phrase “counterintentional quahogs”!

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Love these …..Quahogs.

    • ReallyMGM

      Keyboard warning! Jenna + stallion + gelding = priceless!

    • WOG with Attitude

      More absolute genius! You are a treasure! โค๏ธ๐ŸŒน

    • Cedilla

      Bruno!

    • Illinoisian

      “We’re in more pieces than Jack F#@KING Parsons”
      [Positively yelping with laughter.]

    • salin

      Bravo!!!

  • Jimmy3

    Every time I watch a Chris Shelton video, I’m upset that he’s not wearing a Riddler costume. Sorry, but you’re wasting the “The Critical Thinker At Large” moniker. You need a glittery costume checkered with question marks, Chris.

    • gtsix

      I would pay to see that, Chris.

      Just saying.

      • Juicer77

        At the very least, the hat and cane.

    • Uhhh…okay.

      • Jimmy3

        Just consider it.

  • Jeb Burton

    Wow. This is bigger than I ever imagined. Clearwater next? Thank you Mr. Jones.

    • Good ideas work – but if you keep using the same one, even the CofS will adapt and public interest will wane.
      This one was pure genius – we need more, to keep them on the back foot.

      • WOG with Attitude

        LOL…just like Star Trek’s Borg!

        • like Zombie invasions (which the CofS has also been compared with) the Borg are threatening, but very slow. The trick is to do something different while they are still trying to adapt to your last attack (and learn from your successes). The lessons from this one include:

          Choose a single issue that will provoke public sympathy and focus on it. Provoke a response, knowing that they have no answers to the most obvious questions. Exploit their ham-fisted attempts to ‘handle’ the situation to show them up for the intellectually and morally bankrupt organisation they are.

  • Frodis73

    Somebody just sent this to me via email and I thought you guys would like it too…def sums up both LRH and Miscavige…and scientology in a nutshell. f5

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Good one.

    • WOG with Attitude

      Scientology just demands respect!

      They haven’t heard: religion doesn’t mean “abuse whoever you like”.
      Plenty of pedo priests & televangelists can tell them about that.

  • Mark

    I wonder what the the bye-laws about bill-sticking and fly-posting in East Grinstead are like? (Refresh paste-pot):

    • Juicer77

      Baaaaaaa!!

      • Mark

        Watch out, Davy! Mint Source is on your case!

        • Juicer77

          Bwahahaha

  • dagobarbz

    I happened to walk in when mom was watching the news last night. Caught glimpse of the sign and said “Watch this” with a big grin on my face.

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    Just leaving the hotel for home. In the elevator, Blondie singing “Call Me”. Too funny.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Perfect ๐Ÿ™‚

      Have a safe trip home!

    • aquaclara

      aaah, hope you take one last drive by before heading out of town. Your interviews have been so special. We get to be part of this, so thank you so much for including everybody here in the chance to do something.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Karmic. Not like the chameleon.

    • chukicita

      Thank you so much for all you do, and for letting us be part of it! I’m sure that this hasn’t been easy. Safe travels, and I’m holding out hope for the very best for you and Willie.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I really can’t say it any better than fellow Bunkerites have but it has been an honor to support this project and a treasure to share it with you and Willie. You are an amazing father Phil. Your children are lucky to have you. *hugs*

    • Allie

      Thank you for your patience and incredible efforts to ensure that the billboard campaign has become a reality.
      The media has responded with excellent coverage, your interviews have been fabulous and you and Willie
      are indeed heroes. I hope this will spur your children to call you and that healing can begin for many families.
      Thank you for letting “friends” be a part of all this. Take time to relax now and enjoy your efforts.
      Sending you lots of hugs.

    • Beth

      whoa. safe travels dear Phil. thank you for including us in your project. you are awesome.

    • A bird in the chimney

      Epic ‘end credits’ music. (at least for this part of the journey)

      Thank you for everything you & Willie are pushing for and doing. The billboard is a great idea and has already proven itself, formidably. Safe travels, get some rest, fight on!

    • Always Amazed

      Safe travels my heros.

      I am so impressed by your courage and class. The saying that “Cream rises” exemplifies you and Willie, you two are definitely at the top. I hope ANY loved one reaches out to anyone via your efforts. ~hug~

      Here is a link to the pics I took yesterday. Use at will… no pun intended. ๐Ÿ™‚

      https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2zvul0gsnxe6hu6/AABr4AP6f_O1MwB7Jb2KPcTma?dl=0

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        So many great pics!

      • Dice

        Great… Lot’s of twitter/facebook content food to use ๐Ÿ™‚

      • aquaclara

        I hope your son comes home, too, Zack’s Mom. I have been seeing your pictures, and of course saw the sign. Just belatedly caught the connection….

        Your son is so lucky to have you as his mom. Here’s hoping the phone rings, the door opens, the reunion with your comes home SOON!

        Hugs to you…you’re both in my prayers.

    • joan nieman

      nice.

    • WOG with Attitude

      I’m so happy for you! What a victory! The media response has gone beyond my wildest imaginings!

      Kuddos to you and the Bunker!

      May your children wake up! With any luck, the cult will abuse them to the point they have to leave! Unpleasant, but sometimes a wake up call!

    • Glen

      Thank you Phil and Willie for being able to transform pain and suppression into love and hope.

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      I think Astrud Gilberto’s version of Call Me is the best one:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDf74ekyuvM

      • Sarcasmo

        Love me some Astrud.

      • John P.

        I could listen to that heavenly voice forever. Her voice is so wonderfully soothing that she could sing lyrics like “death and grief, destruction and murder, life sucks and then you die in agony alone and in the dark” and I’d feel perky and cheerful afterwards.

    • Ella Raitch

      No coincidence… Surely an OT phenomenon

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Phil I am so thrilled about you and Willie’s success – this sure sounds like a perfect location, better than Hollywood Blvd! And an incredible amount of press!

    • Bavarian Rage

      I think that’s God’s upvote to you and your wife on your tenacity with the billboard.

  • Rene Trujillo

    I’m sure this has been mentioned many times before and in the air now but where is the courageous and sincere lawyer to challenge the tax exempt status of $cientology? All this is more proof that this is not a religion of which the essence should be LOVE!

  • SCIENTOLOGY IS A DEAD END ROAD

    I wish I’d come down for the opening; sure missed a good one.
    Congratulations to Phil & Willie on the big success.
    Also to the company that did the billboard for not worrying
    about Scientology and what that now impotent group might do.

  • I was listening to the radio this morning and heard a bit about sociopathic villains by Hugh Laurie that was appropriate to someone. (Didn’t know it was him at the time, I’m used to how his characters sound.)

    http://www.cbc.ca/radio/q/schedule-for-thursday-april-7-2016-1.3524652/hugh-laurie-unleashes-a-villain-in-the-night-manager-1.3524666

    I’ll edit with the exact play time when I get there. 5:40ish.

    • gtsix

      The first time my mom saw him on a late night show, she texted me:

      DID YOU KNOW HOUSE WAS ENGLISH!

      (all caps were hers).

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I’ve just finished watching The Night Manager on the BBC. It was pretty good, and anything with Tom Hiddleston in is fine by me.

    • gtsix

      That was a good listen. interesting point at 17:00 – he talks about the villain going beyond caring about the money and talks about there is a game element of life that his villain character will respond to that others won’t.

  • UhLasare
    • JaxNGold

      The Today Show piece was incredible. Tears. How dare those assholes claim there’s “no policy to disconnect”. F**ken filthy liars.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      I was able to retweet all, except CBS one. Thanks so much UhLasare.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Good curating!

    • MarcabExpat

      Thank you so much! I would have missed the local reports over here in Florida.

      Also, the GMA segment is now on YouTube:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBfkD_iaJVs

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    What a great day. Brava to you all. Happy Day Phi, Wille and all! Now you can rest for awhile, hopefully and we will watch the forthcoming action. Thank you so very much, from the heart.

    • MarcabExpat

      Hey there dear lady. I hope you made it through this morning’s weather OK? We had a one-hour period where we could see literally nothing through our windows, then back to normal, if a little more soggy…

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        I heard someone’s emergency alarm and turned on the TV. It was close but nothing much except some rain where I am Thank Marcab for thinking of me. Glad all went well with you too.

  • Graham

    Tony’s link to John Riceburg: it looks like Scientology in Berlin is so short staffed they are paying the unemployed to hand out front-group leaflets. I guess that’s the way Scientology’s going; hardly any true believers left but they’ve so much money they can buy-in fake members to keep up the charade.

    • UhLasare

      That’s awesome news!

  • Sir Derf

    Perhaps related note: Scientology has been trying to remove the R2-45 page on Wikipedia, even claiming that L. Ron Hubbard’s lecture recording where he talks about using the “rundown” is a forgery — an “unconfirmed primary source.”

    If there are other Wikipedia editors in the ‘bunker, please go WatchList the R2-45 page and assist in stopping Scientology from removing the page. Ever since this billboard cropped up, they have been hammering that page for some reason trying to remove it either in whole or piece by piece — which begs the question whether the bilboard is related or just a coincidence.

    • Ah yes, the usual suspects: Laval and Sfarney. I really don’t know why Sfarney is allowed to edit; he’s likely one of the Team Scientology editors that was previously banned. He’s not just editing Wikipedia for fun, it’s his hat.

      Category:R2-45

      • Sir Derf

        We may need to apply protections to that page. It seems likely that these Scientology employees will be targeting other pages though I believe they have surrendered on the NarCONon page.

        • WOG with Attitude

          They never give up, never surrender. They believe they’re saving the planet and they’ve got lots of time on their hands.

      • WOG with Attitude

        John Alex Woodenhead is always bragging that he alters Wikipedia pages. Glad people are keeping an eye on all matters Scientology on Wikipedia tho! He’s likely one of the Larvoids!

        Doesn’t matter! Scientology trying to play Whack-a-Wog on th interwebs is laughable! They STILL don’t get it.

  • Cushty Juvil

    Does anyone know what time they will be on GMA or any other news shows this morning?

  • ReallyMGM

    You know, 2016 is shaping up to be just as EPIC as 2015!

    • Jimmy3

      Just stop killing people, 2016. Then you will be okay and people will like you.

    • pluvo

      The Golden Age of Bad Press.

  • pluvo

    It’s Thursday. OSA’s PR stats are horrible. Slappy must be angry, real angry (if he slapps?). Heads will roll, people send to the RPF, sec ckecks galore. More PIs, more lawyers, more fundraising and pressure. More hip-hip-huraaah-the-enemies-are-sceaming-we-are-winning ….

    • More will leave the church again. They’ll be down to 5,000 by year end I bet. Happy thought. Sad about the RPF etc. for the mostly staff remaining but they have to hit bottom and open their eyes somehow.

  • spaceplane

    Huge congratulations to Phil and Willie, obviously this project has a far greater payoff to come for them personally but what an amazing impact they have achieved already in such outstanding media coverage. I have followed their story and others as a lurker for months and the reality of seeing the TV crews and coverage hits home what a brilliant community this is. Congrats again to them and to all who contributed.

    • Juicer77

      Welcome, spaceplane. It’s a great time to begin commenting. So much going on!

      • spaceplane

        Hi Juicer! Many thanks for the kind welcome. It is indeed – glad I’m one of many new Bunkerites ! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      What a wonderful time it is to be de-lurking, Spaceplane! Welcome to being a Bunkeroo ๐Ÿ™‚

      • spaceplane

        Thanks Andrea ! I always enjoy your comments. And it absolutely is, long may it continue !

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Hear, hear. Have a word with NOLAgirl; she’s in charge of the bar’s org board ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Chee Chalker

            Just don’t fill any openings in the Org Board without approval……unless of course you are trying to get banished

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Shall we mess with the org board, Chee? For the lulz? Nolly will never know it was us. I mean, you. Er.

            • Chee Chalker

              Here’s an idea….we get NOLA sent to Twin Peaks where she fills Shelly in on the whole Dave/Lou shenanigans.
              Maybe then Shelly will change her mind about wanting to ‘build a palace for COB’.
              Oh the stories Shelly could tell. It’s too bad she is a die hard lifer.

            • Jake Hamby

              I feel really sad about these lifers who get prematurely aged from all the stress and chain-smoking and being trapped like prisoners. Normally I would give someone like Shelly Miscavige a small chance of getting fed up and leaving one day, but then I think of all the others, like Annie Broeker, dying young of cancer while still in the church’s clutches.

    • aegerprimo

      So glad you are here spaceplane!

      • spaceplane

        Thanks a bunch aeger – I enjoy your comments – just had to join in ! Here’s to many more ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Joe

    Hm, that’s odd I didn’t see anything in the news about the Today Show and GMA rushing to interview DM over the glorious opening of the Org in Atlanta. . .

    I just love the thought of some Sci-tai watching what they think is a benign episode of the Today Show and GMA only to have to rush over and yank the plug out of the TV once they see the story about the billboard and then file a KR on themselves

    • Allie

      Great visual image. Can’t.stop.laughing.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Ha! I’ve only just watched the Today piece and I think it’s my favourite ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    I enjoyed the article in Daily Kos mentioning that David Jolly was busted for trying to scrub Scientology ties from his Wikipedia page and the remark that he should never have associated with ‘those lunatic Scientology slave-lords in the first place”. Very well put of course. It’s a good thing Wikipedia does not allow it. The mention of Scientology is still there.
    I was just wondering: If many Sea Org members who are Clearwater residents were to vote for David Jolly, they would need their identification card in order to do that. Maybe that would be an opportunity to escape. I guess it won’t happen.

    • Foreign “religious workers” wouldn’t be allowed to vote for him anyway.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Congratulations to Phil and Willie! The media attention for the Billboard is really great!

  • Yay. So much fun and hope for a bright future watching the ‘Worlds Fasted Growing Religion’ get exposed. Thanks everyone! (Hugs)

  • Jane

    Not that the billboard would have made British news anyway, but feeding the Mail with the Cruise and Saint Hill story certainly would have ensured it got pushed out of the way. So maybe the point was exactly to derail the Daily Mail?

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Can we take the excitement? I can’t!

    F5/refresh

    • Juicer77

      OOOOOooooooooo!

    • Always Amazed

      I love Nora Crest……..ooops, did I say that outloud?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        There you are! You were a hero yesterday, Always. I’m as proud of you as I am of Phil and Willie ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        You should go ahead and shout it–the rest of us do. She’s got a long conga line of fans around here. ; )

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Dear gods, I can’t TAKE any more! I mean, I can, but I can’t, y’know? This’ll be a good one, I’m sure. Nora is such a moving speaker. Will be firing this one up tonight while making dinner…

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Holy crap!! Thanks for the heads up Betts. โค

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Chris’s interview with his mom part 2 was great again!
    She was an ethics officer and her goal was to help parishioners with ethics so they could continue on their bridge. As far as I understand it, nowadays parishioners often have to make amends and pay indulgences for their transgression. The goal seems to be punishment and to cash in a lot of money. $cientology ethics seems to be different now.
    I liked listening to them very much and I like the cliffhanger too. I am looking forward to part 3.

  • WOG with Attitude

    Scientology….are you ever going to learn that it’s better just to 1. Not lie about your Hubbard ties, 2. Just refund the damn money you haven’t earned?! So much for out-exchange!

    • Jimmy3

      They did earn it tho. Hustling is hustling.

  • hansje brinker

    Some people can make a song on “First We Take Manhattan ( and than Berlin)” by Leonard Cohen……………

  • Sejanus

    The Narconon settlement was very, very expected.
    $cientology will bluster and blather about legal actions, court actions and oh how they are innocent.
    Pfft.
    In the end theey know how sccrewed they are if they ever get before a jury.
    So out pops the checkbook.
    Someday there will be criminal charges laid.
    Good luck paying those away.

    Willie and Phil’s follow up to the $cientology Disconnection “Killboard” is awesome and classy!
    To heck with a shot across the bow…
    That one went right up the nose!

  • flyonthewall

    So this seems kinda weird. Ross and Carrie just posted this on their FB page. New Dianetics billboard up in LA and it’s by Lamar. I thought CoS would of cxld any business with them aftr Philgate. f5

    • Jimmy3

      Lamar Media is like that friendly whore you know. All business is good business, baby.

      • flyonthewall

        Sure but I figured CoS would of cxld on Lamar, not the other way around. No one at the cult must of realized the connection. I don’t think anyone is at the helm, they’re just drifting along on auto pilot.

        • Jimmy3

          Remember how they approached Regency? They had some tool call up and offer to buy up all their billboard space. It’s at least worth guessing that they tried the same thing with a bunch of the top agencies, and maybe they did make a bunch of deals that went through. Lamar took the deal anyway. Heh

          • Jimmy3

            But it’s worth noting that Lamar already had Dianetics billboards up well before this plan was ever hatched.

          • flyonthewall

            that’s like when I got two Snickers bars from the vending machine for the price of one. One time I got two Reeses peanut butter cups for the price of one and this kid ran up to me all out of breath saying one of them was his bc the machine ate his dollar. I admired his tenacity in getting his peanut butter cups so I gave him his candy w/o a fuss but I was sad I didn’t get a two-fer that time. Can’t get two-fers all the time. And that’s the story of how I didn’t get a two-fer that day.

            • chukicita

              But you got a Karma BOGO that day.

            • Jimmy3

              Protip: if you get a Payday bar from a vending machine, they are usually stale and hard enough to smash the glass. Use this knowledge to rescue the rest of the trapped candy.

            • flyonthewall

              Trapped candy. I never thought about it like that. They are technically hostages if you think about it; give me the money and I’ll release the candy. That’s a hostage situation, no doubt about it. Thank you J3. Thank you.

        • Frodis73

          Even better that they didn’t cancel with Lamar because it just proves their dumb empty threats. Regency and Outdoor are chicken shits and they could be getting this awesome national PR, but nooooooooooo they had to cave in to the midget and his ranting threats.
          This reminds me that i need to send Lamar a note to say thank you for not caving in.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Meh. I’m not even mad at them. For them it is just business. They’re not in it for a fight with anyone. Plus, they’re sucking money from Scientology for billboards that result in little to no sales of the advertised product. I’ll take it. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • ze moo

        Are Regency and Outfront getting clam signs too? What no payoff for dissing Phil and Willie? Bad business, bad business…..

    • chukicita

      Scientology has so many tentacles, I’m sure one has no idea what the others are doing. Also, a billboard campaign isn’t something that can easily be deep-sixed overnight. Besides, DM has to do errrrthing himSELF these days.

    • skiesareblue

      Lousy location. No film crews either. Too bad, Dave.

    • Rasha

      Very confront. Such shatter.

    • Juicer77

      That’s the old tag line from the 1980’s ads!!

  • Wow, I’m amazed to see what a buzz this billboard has created. Awesome work Phil and Willie! I hope your kids wake up soon.

    • Glom_of_Nit

      One of the most interesting things to come out of this is the incredulity and bafflement of journalists discovering horrible Scientology facts and policies that are well-known to us Sci watchers. Let’s hope this spawns lots of articles in mainstream media and indignation of the general public. And, one can dream, discussion and action on the tax-exempt status.

      • chukicita

        Sweet dreams.

  • nottrue
    • ze moo

      Now there is proper ‘dissemination tech’ at work. I used to think that one by one, the clam coffin lid would be nailed down. Now they need a nail gun to keep up with the nailing. The meme is reaching saturation point.

    • Rasha

      “Estranged” is, in my opinion, not quite what is going on. That indicates a personal difference, and a mutual condition. Disconnection is something else altogether. Just Rasha’s 2 cents.

  • chukicita

    OT (but there are no OTs): TORNADO IN CLEARWATER TODAY reported on tbo . com:

    According to the National Weather Service, a radar view at 6:55 a.m. showed a confirmed tornado as it approached the Courtney Campbell Causeway in east Clearwater. According to Clearwater emergency officials, a spotter observed the tornado over the Bayside Bridge just before 7 a.m.

    Clearwater officials said the main areas that appear to be affected are west and north of Eddie C. Moore Recreation Complex. on Drew Street west of McMullen-Booth Road. Multiple trees and power lines were downed.

    The athletic complex sustained damage, as well. A fence on the east side of the fields was damaged, and a scoreboard was ripped out of the ground. Several soccer goals were tossed around โ€œlike toys,โ€ police spokesman Rob Shaw said.

    Some of the residential streets most affected were Grand View Avenue, Merrill Avenue, Hoyt Avenue, Moss Avenue and Brigadoon Drive. Three town homes were damaged on Brigadoon, displacing residents that are being assisted by the American Red Cross, Shaw said.

    Officials said a large oak trees were uprooted at the west end of the Courtney Campbell Causeway.

    – See more at: http://www.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/tornado-warning-in-west-pasco-through-615-am-as-storms-roll-through-tampa-area-20160407/#sthash.j4RWf3G8.dpuf

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Scientology needs cash immediately for WTH booklets. Allegedly. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • ze moo

      OTs can only use their powers for repelling alien invasions and stuff related to driving cars. Tornadoes are out tech.

    • Mary Smith

      Yes I have never heard wind like this.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Are you somewhere safe?

        • chukicita

          The storm blew through about six or seven hours ago. Now it’s sunny out. Florida.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            I remember sitting on the balcony in Miami last April watching the most terrifying storm move across the bay towards us. I loved it! It was like a black wall of doom coming to get us. An hour later we were back down by the pool.

            • chukicita

              Yep. That’s pretty much every day here from about now through November.

        • Mary Smith

          It just lasted 5 minutes and moved on–quick moving storm. thanks for asking.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Yikes, I hope Dee is ok!

    • “.. weather service meteorologist Daniel Noah ..”

      Ruh-roh!

  • I guess I can cross this one off:

    Foreign Profit Corporation
    SOUTHERN LAND DEVELOPMENT AND LEASING CORPORATION
    Filing Information
    Document Number 835186
    FEI/EIN Number 59-1629244
    Date Filed 10/10/1975
    State DE
    Status INACTIVE
    Last Event INVOLUNTARILY DISSOLVED
    Event Date Filed 12/14/1982

    That’s the shell they used to invade Clearwater.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      What does “involuntarily” mean in this case, Mycroft? I would assume bankruptcy, but not in this case, presumably?

      • Inactive for too long, perhaps?

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Ah yes, perhaps fees weren’t paid in time on a long-dormant entity.

      • I haven’t checked Delaware yet, but probably just due to not filing the paperwork needed to keep it alive.

      • Ben Franklin

        A corporation becomes “involuntarily dissolved” when it fails to fulfill requirements of the statutes of the incorporating jurisdiction, such as the filing of periodic reports or the payment of required fees.

        In other words, It is a dissolution of a corporation by the governing body for failure to comply with the established rules.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Thank you very much, Ben ๐Ÿ™‚

    • chukicita

      Whatever happened to Building Management Services?

  • sizzle8

    I’m sure it’s been posted already, but the Louis Theroux teaser clip is incredible.

    http://junkee.com/first-clip-louis-therouxs-scientology-film-tense-hell/75819

    • So “Going Clear” didn’t make it last time.
      This will win in 2016.
      (Not too early to start the buzz.)

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I wish ๐Ÿ™‚ But it won’t. It’s not really Oscars material, and I don’t think it’s trying to be. What it is, is genius!

        • Huh?
          Best documentary?

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            It’s fluffier and funnier than Going Clear. You will absolutely love it, but it’s not heavyweight enough to be considered for an Oscar.

            Of course I’ll be the happiest person in England if I’m wrong.

            • While I agree it’s probably not ‘serious’ enough to play at the Oscars, Louis is deceptively clever and reveals far more about his subject’s motivations than any amount of worthy research. His is a complementary approach which contributes to a well-rounded understanding of his subjects.

              His interviews with Saville revealed the man for what he was years before the truth came out, and he never got the credit he deserved for that programme. There was nothing fluffy about James Saville.

              Louis suffers from the prejudice that, just because he’s entertaining, he can’t be serious.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Quite right, and why I called the film “genius”, because Louis has a magic touch when it comes to his subjects. He gently leads people to expose more than they are ever aware of revealing and he does that while never losing his congeniality. He is a very, very clever man who knows exactly how much pressure it takes to crack a nut. It’s why he is my favourite documentarian.

            • Gee, talk about premature cornflakes pissing.

              Louis and me are glad you’re not on the committee.

              By “heavyweight” you mean……..??? Seriously, give me a clue.

              I know you’ve seen it, so you certainly have me at a disadvantage.
              At least in that regard.

              The one brief scene they’ve released here is positively Shakespearean in its juxtaposition of good and evil. light and dark. humanity and inhumanity. With a vivid portrayal of what naked, raging paranoia looks like in the flesh.
              (That would make a good review, no?)

              But yeah, dash Louis’ hopes and dreams (and mine) to little bits at the slightest suggestion that it may be significant and that Louis is what some would call “genius”. And that most, if not all, of what he does qualifies as “inspired”.

              I’ll wager 10 to 1 odds in whatever filthy lucre passes for coin of the realm in the god-forsaken hell-hole you call “England that it will be nominated.

              And I give 3 to 1, that if nominated, it wins.

              You are certainly free to bite off as much as you can chew. Remember that in betting, size does matter. Just HOW certain are you of an opinion expressed so quickly? How?

              For your consideration, something you obviously did not engage in heretofore, I present you with an history of Academy Award winners (and nominees) in the “Documentary” category, you may wish to peruse.
              Please feel free to revise your hasty remarks after doing so.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Documentary_Feature

              Take the bets and you will be at least one happier person in Jolly Old should you win.

              (Since, on the “internet”, everything is subject to as much or more misinterpretation than any other form of communication, let me clarify:
              I kid because I love….wait….that might not clarify. Oh the hell with communicating.)

  • SucculentDuck

    screenshots of my Google news feed for Scientology right now…

    12x Phil Jones Billboard headlines on MAJOR news outlets (plus 2x more not showing, and 1x for Louis Theroux)

    vs.

    2x bullshit “feel good” press releases put out by the cherch

    Scientology 2016: The Rise of The Demise

    (eti: of course Disqust flips the order… Phil’s Billboard is the TOP story, followed by Louis, Tom Cruise moves to St Hill, another Philboard, “Lucia Ribisi Ditches Scientology” … and waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy down at the bottom, the 2x cherch press releases)

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Whoa there, nelly!

    • Dice

      “Philboard” ha ha… Stolen!

    • Observer

      Scientology Mothers’ Day celebration = “You have to disconnect from your mother or else!”

      • SucculentDuck

        #LRonic that the big shindig is being held inside the fucking Bank of Clearwater. even i can’t make this stuff up.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        disconnection is a way of saving i love you that much!… UH HUH!…

    • if you have multiple pictures, load them into Disqus in reverse order, and all will be well.

      • SucculentDuck

        you rule, thx

    • Cedilla

      Hey, Dude.
      The Philboard abides.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Philboard…Let it be known no other way henceforth.

      • SucculentDuck

        Philboardยฎ (registered now… so we’ll all split the money when we settle out of court… you know, when Scn eventually uses it without permission)

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          I can’t wait to invest my nickel!

  • Scientology’s tune never changes:

    Jeffrey Dubron, a church spokesman in Los Angeles, characterized Miss Cooper as “someone who is out for money and found a sensational way to get it.”

    Scientology Critics Assail Aggressiveness of Church August 28, 1978, Robert Rawitch, Los Angeles Times

    • chukicita

      The projection never ends.

  • All I can say today, with Phil and Willie rightfully in the spotlight for “making it go right” and getting their very awesome billboard up and noticed around the world, is how thankful I am that I never had to suffer disconnection from my family. Which is not to say that the Church didn’t try or that I didn’t have to make some major sacrifices to keep in touch with my parents. I was not the best of children while I was in the Sea Org. I bought in to the “we are saving the world” party line just like Phil and Willie’s kids have and there were long periods of time where I didn’t call or write my parents. But every time it came up that I needed to disconnect from my Mom (and it did) I defended my “comm line” to my parents and I never let the Church sever it. We talk about this in next week’s video in detail. I just want to say today that I’m so happy and proud of what Phil and Willie are doing to let the world know that this toxic disconnection policy still exists and shine the light of truth on one of Scientology’s darkest practices. They deserve mega kudos for their bravery and perseverance.

    • Ruby

      Nice!
      Chris and Mary, I really enjoyed today’s interview! Love to hear you both laughing! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • madame duran

      Never understood how Scientologists expected to save the world by severing ties with people. Do they mean saving the entire world or only a portion of it? Do they save only the people they like and not anyone who disagrees or believes differently? Does the word “world” even refer to people (non-Scientologists)? Disconnection never saved anyone. It only preserves Miscavige’s firm control on the personal lives of Scientologists.

      • It’s not hard to understand at all if you put yourself in their shoes. It’s like this: I’m Joe Sea Org Member. I’m working my ass off to bring the only workable technology to everyone in the world so that they can be free of the mundane drivel of life on planet Earth. I’m constantly told how bad things are in the world, how everyone in the world is a slave to their reactive mind and that we are the only group that can unburden them of their reactive mind if they will only take part in what we do. Every single bad thing in the world – war, famine, disease, corruption, domestic violence, racism, bigotry – all of it is caused by the reactive mind. Since we are the only people who have the means to stop it, we are the most important people in the world and our crusade is the most important crusade there is. Nothing else matters but this because everyone’s life hangs in the balance. Not just their current life, but their future lives too.

        So now here is my pesky mother or father or brother or friend who is giving my a hard time because I’m not seeing them more often. I’m not ‘the same person you used to be.’ I am “working too hard.” “You are part of a cult.” “You don’t know what we know about that evil David Miscavige.” “You’re duped.” “You’re an idiot.” “How can you be so stupid as to fall for that crap?” “Don’t you know that David Miscavige beats his juniors?”

        No matter what line is used or how it is said, pretty much the only thing I hear is “You’re an idiot and I know more than you do.” Meanwhile, I’m literally working slave hours to try to save their asses from their own reactive minds, which they are so ignorant about that they don’t even see where all their hate and bile and bigotry is coming from. Because I know that it’s all from their reactive mind. And I’m only going to put up with that for so long. I’ve got a job to do and if they are going to get in my way and try to stop me from saving them and everyone else in the world, then what choice do I have? I need them out of my life.

        I love them but what I’m doing is too important. It matters too much. What does it matter if I am keeping my mom happy if the world burns as a result? So in the end, I don’t really have any choice. I have to disconnect because I don’t need that crap on my lines. I need to keep going and get the job done despite them.

        That is what goes on in the head of a Scientologist (and especially a Sea Org member). I hope that helps to make it clearer why they think it’s perfectly acceptable to cut ties with those they love. And of course, all of it is based on a complete lie because they aren’t saving anyone or anything. All they are doing is enriching the coffers of Scientology and its leader. That is the tragedy behind the whole thing: how deluded they are by the “save the world” mantra that L. Ron Hubbard created and Miscavige carries on with. All of it is a total waste.

        • That’s fascinating.

          I hate the simplistic attitude that says ‘Scientology is all obviously nonsense, and Scientologists are idiots for not being able to see this’. So much depends on social context, and how your beliefs frame your experiences.

          To understand what is going on, you really have to think yourself into another’s shoes. Thanks for the prespective.

          • Draco

            Thank you. xxx

            PS. Did you see Pan’s earlier post where you disconnect from Dave?

          • gtsix

            ‘Scientology is all obviously nonsense, and Scientologists are idiots for not being able to see this’. So much depends on social context, and how your beliefs frame your experiences.

            I believe ISIS is going to use this in their next viral marketing campaign. {massive sarcasm}

          • ithilien

            I dont think its fair to say scientologists are idiots, but they are definitely duped into a system that uses mind control techniques with the ultimate purpose of separating them from their money. So perhaps gullible would be a better word. Or inexperienced. Or oblivious. There is definitely a personality type that responds to cons of this type, as all ‘ins’ are a self selected response group. The ‘saving the world’ gloss, or being a superior being, is the con. So it appeals to both the servile and the arrogant. Some people on the outside, who have not bought into the con must be excused for believing scis are ‘idiots, ‘ as healthy skepticism critical thinking skills and being exposed to more factual imformation has been their life experience, and it is hard to understand the naive and self destructive behavior of others.

            • I take a view informed by social psychology. We are, all of us, vulnerable to some extent to social pressure and the other techniques evolved by the CofS.

              I’m thinking particularly of an experiment by Stanley Milgram, which tested obedience to authority among a random sample of people. They were perusaded to do extraordinary things on the say-so of a man in a white coat, whom they thought was a university psychologist. https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/05/03/understanding-the-scientology-mindset-pt-3-obedience-to-authority/

              Experts, who had previously been consulted, said only a tiny minority would conform. In actual fact, more than 70% did.

              Those who took part were carefully debriefed. They were typically astonished by their own compliance, and stated that they had learned a valuable lesson about their own vulnerability.

              The same pattern can be seen in other, less formal, experiments. People believe that they are utterly immune to the appeal of a high-control group and typically learn something invaluable about their natural human weakness when they are taken in despite themselves. https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/understanding-the-scientology-mindset-pt-10-the-third-wave/

              These people were a random sample of the population. They were quite representative. Studies of people who join high-control groups show the same thing. There is no identifiable personality type that is taken in – members are drawn from a wide range of ordinary people. If they have anything in common, it is that they were all approached at a time in their lives when they were vulnerable to the cult pitch.

              Critical thinking provides some protection… but human beings would not need to study such a subject if we were naturally rational. Sometimes, it fails, because we rationalise away obvious ‘red flags’ for emotional reasons – such as the need for comradeship, and a mission which will confer meaning upon our lives.

              Head and heart must march forward together.

              If you really are totally invulnerable to manipulation, good on you. You are a very rare person. Rarer still if you are sure of this without having put it to any form of test.

              Most people (myself included) recognise that we possess all kinds of irrational vulnerabilities and, when we consider groups like Scientology wonder if we would have joined if our situation had been different (AKA there but for the grace of God go I).

              That little bit of doubt is probably a better protection than certainty. People who are ‘out’ who think themselves more perceptive than Scientologists should remember that vanity cometh before being conned.

            • daisy

              On one of my news programs or a class I was in., someone showed clips proving what you say to be correct. The only bits I can remember is when a person got in to an elevator full of people facing backward, the person entering also turned aroumd to face the wall. Another showed an elevator full of people wearing hats, then what seemed choreographed removal of their hats. The person not in on the joke also removed their hat seconds after. These bits were shown at University studies of Psychology . I was aghast at this experiment as it was a clip from Candid Camera

            • I suspect “Candid Camera” was inspired either by student exercises in social psychology (which was on the rise at the time) or by a producer who spent the day with a good con man.

              You would like Solomon Ashe, whose experiment showed that people could be made to doubt the clear evidence of their own eyes, or at least follow the crowd even when they were clearly wrong https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/05/02/understanding-the-scientology-mindset-pt-2-social-conformity/

            • daisy

              You are right I did like the article and experiment

        • Banrion

          But Scientologists are people too, why don’t they want to save their friends and family first? Why abandon those who need the most help?

          It just drives deeper questions like, who are the helping if they can’t even help their families?

          And to be clear, I am only asking these questions rhetorically as we all know the answer is because Scientology is the homeopathy of religion. Lots of theatrics to hide the fact that they are doing nothing and helping no one.

          • Orglodyte

            Oh, they do try for friends and family first. Tried hard, in my case. My family’s stubbornness was a source of great sadness! But you see, they knew me from before. They could see through me, and through Scientology, better than a stranger would.

            I went to an Arte Maren seminar once, and he told us he had gotten something like 200 people on the Bridge. The only people he could never make headway with were his family. Got a large, heartfelt laugh from the audience.

        • Orglodyte

          Beautiful description Chris. Right on the money.

        • gtsix

          My hatred just grew immensely.

          And I am a little teary-eyed, and I don’t do that shit.

        • Tracy Schmitz

          a simple “who in particular have you saved? who in particular name me, give me a name/names particular individual/individuals you saved by doing your menial work as a sea org member? you would think asking them for names and the how’s and when would “jolt them” into the world’s biggest “HMM, oh yeah, now that i actually stop and think about it!”…or a “what quote religion would want you to save the world if you can’t save the ones you love and only by disconnecting them are you saving them? wouldn’t your religion be powerful and true enough to NOT HAVE to do this and give you the tools to NOT have to do this instead of WANTING you do this?!..

          and how great of a “religion’ is it, if only a certain portion of the world is EVER saved?

        • Ella Raitch

          Downright cruelty ๐Ÿ™

        • madame duran

          I’m working my ass off to bring the only workable technology to everyone in the world so that they can be free of the mundane drivel of life on planet Earth

          …says the Sea Org member who is living a miserable life that’s WORSE than the most mundane drivel on planet Earth. Sorry, but the irony made me chuckle.
          Thank you for taking time to explain the Scientology perspective…but I still find it lacking (not your explanation…I mean the cult’s perspective). It’s not that I’m unfamiliar with Scientology’s reasoning–I’ve heard it before–but it’s so devoid of common sense, I find it unbelievable. WHAT is it that Scientology/Scientologists are saving? I argue the prime focus is not on people. If Scientology’s goals were truly people-centred, it would be difficult to cut ties with them completely. The cult’s true objective is to get people to submit to Scientology’s control. Ultimately, Scientology is the only thing worth saving, everything else be damned (including family bonds). People are therefore disposable.
          The Scientologist’s version of offering “help” is NOT to address real needs such as feeding the hungry, ensuring better living wages for the poor or curing diseases. The “help” is the tech dissemination. As you rightly stated, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS BUT THE TECH. This concept becomes very apparent when looking at Scientology’s disconnection policy. The breakdown in the relationship isn’t due to a PERSONAL transgression; it’s because someone is critical or unreceptive to the tech. The offence is towards the Scientology group, not a person. Disconnecting Scientologists often say to their loved ones, “I love you…you’ve done so much for me…I’ll cherish the good memories BUT…”. The personal affection is usually still present but something overrides the natural emotions. It’s the cult loyalty talking.
          In summary, “saving the world” in Scientology terms DOES NOT mean saving people. It means preserving Scientology (KSW, following Source or Command Intention, donating to the IAS, etc.). This is what I fine baffling. It’s contrary to what most people would think.

        • Dawn Valley

          What a great post! Yes, IMHO all of this is true. I’ve done a lot of reading and watching w/r/t Peoples Temple and Jonestown, and often I think of that group when reading about Scientology. Early in a documentary about Jonestown, a former member says “To these people this wasn’t a cult, this was their church!”
          I’ve heard many hurtful things over the years about “idiots who join cults” from people who have no idea I was on Scientology staff for almost three years. That was in the early 80s, and I have just now in the past year or so started sharing with a select few friends that I was once a Scientologist.

    • Draco

      Loved today’s video, Chris. What your mom described is 100% my experience in joining scn. Also through a mission. She really did a very good job of explaining what it was like back then. Her take on Ethics – exactly what mine was. If anyone had even considered trying to pay their way out of an ethics situation, I would have had a heart attack. To me, ethics was all about doing the work to help yourself improve whatever was wrong in your life. Never to punish, and never, ever to pay your way out.
      As she said, we didn’t see the bad in it, but rather used it to help. I was always shocked in later years when ethics was used as a threat. Couldn’t even think with that. Talk about putting my own spin on Hubbard’s words and ideas! I never saw the evil in it.
      Hugs to you and Mom.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      The battle between Scn’s “making it go right” and Phil and friend’s, Right, mega kudos to Phil!

  • Supper Powers
    • SucculentDuck

      edit: wow. i lost my Dad about 6 yrs ago and this video has turned on the waterworks. in honor of my Dad, because he was a true fighter for good and justice, not one to back down from anything or anyone (even tho only about 4’15” *wink*), I have Phil & Willie’s back in this no matter what. let’s get these kids back home NOW!

      • Draco

        (((Hugs)))

        • SucculentDuck

          thank you so much… kinda needed that after the whirlwind of emotions these past 2 days. i’m much better now.

          • Draco

            I’m glad to hear it. After seeing Phil and Willie’s interview, I could see how raw and close to the surface emotions were today. It must have affected everyone there.
            Take care of yourself. xxx

  • nottrue

    Louis is hitting hard…http://www.unilad.co.uk/tv/louis-theroux-is-back-absolutely-destroying-scientologists-in-new-clip/ …Now we need the Panama Papers to turn up something .

    • Mark Foster

      Thank you!
      Watch the clip on the link…Itยดs classic, mind-blowingly surreal, penultimate scientological whackness.
      And Theroux really handles himself well.
      Share the link on social media, please!
      These motherfuckers are gonna save…the guh-laxy? Pleeeeease! A text-book example of whacky cult arrogance.

    • And there is so much more on the way… Miscavige senior’s book, the media coverage that will accompany that (including footage of Miscavige junior at Atlanta)

      There is even an upcoming mini-series produced by Ridley Scott about John Whiteside Parsons (based on the best book about him “Strange Angel”). Parsons was a pioneering rocket scientists and secret occultist who practiced ‘magic’ with none other than L Ron Hubbard. You can’t cover his life without including Hubbard for an episode or two.

      Scientology, at its peak, could cope with maybe one major challange at a time. Now that they are signficantly weakened, they are being attacked on all fronts.

  • Jgg2012

    “Scientology can never really let any case get to trial because the facts are always so stomach-turning.” Now now. Just because Scientology has NEVER won a jury trial is no reason to be critical.

  • Illinoisian

    The Battle Hymn of Echo Park

    Mine eyes have seen the glory
    Of the Jones’s outdoor board.
    They are ramping up the coverage
    Of a policy abhorred.
    They are calling for the day when
    We’ll see families restored.
    Their truth is marching on.

    I have seen it on the internet,
    Reported without fear.
    And on morning network television
    Beautifully appear.
    I can read the moving message;
    I can feel the atmosphere
    As truth goes marching on.

    Disconnection will be through, yeah.
    Love will win and that is true, yeah.
    Nothing that the cult can do, yeah.
    As truth goes marching on.

    The control of minds is evil,
    Disconnection is a scourge.
    It has taken time and courage
    For the story to emerge.
    But as anger, love, enlightenment
    And energy converge,
    This truth goes marching on.

    They have sounded forth a trumpet
    That shall never call retreat.
    They have brought our hearts together here,
    Where love and friendship meet.
    May these families unite and
    Make this happiness complete,
    As truth goes marching on.

    Disconnection will be through, yeah.
    Love will win and that is true, yeah.
    Nothing that the cult can do, yeah.
    As truth goes marching on.

    • Jimmy3

      This actually works when you sing it aloud. Not when I sing it aloud, of course. But it should work for you.

      • Mark Foster

        Go ahead, J3. Bob Dylan has been singing publicly for decades(many great songs, horrible voice).
        You can sing…with your apron on ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Jimmy3
        • gtsix

          I gotta admit a soft spot for Dylan… he has never, in all these years, been able to lose his Iron Range twang. You can move out of (northern) MN, but that twang will never die.

    • madame duran

      I think you just snatched Panopea Abrupta’s poetry crown. Enjoy your three minutes of fame.
      Anyway, that was brilliant!!! So creative! And so very, very true!

      • Illinoisian

        Thank you, madame d. That is a compliment indeed. (But I think that Pan’s crown is very safe right where it is.)

        • Draco

          We got lots of crowns in the Bunker. No snatching is necessary ๐Ÿ™‚

    • MarcabExpat

      AMAZING.*wipes tears*

  • Yesterday marked one year since I received a letter from the Church of Scientology that I was declared a Suppressive person for things they said I did against their Church 40 years ago but which they refused to give me any specifics on. I responded with filing complaints with the State of Florida asking help to combat this extortion and civil rights violation and look at the ongoing fraud they were committing. โ€จThis process continues today as I have now asked the Department of Justice to help as well.I will be relentless until truth replaces the Church’s lies and injustices and my daughter is given a chance to make an informed decision with all the facts of whether or not she wants to remain in this Church. It of course is her choice but she is not permitted to ask questions or surf the internet to discover as I now have that the Churchโ€™s founder L Ron Hubbard according to Justice Latey and many others ” Hubbard is a charlatan or worse. Scientology is both immoral and socially obnoxiousโ€ฆIn my judgment it is corrupt, sinister and dangerous. It is corrupt because it is based on lies and deceit and has as its real objective money and power. โ€

    I am so glad to know my small contribution to the billboard along with so many other ,are bringing attention to this issue. I have a LOT more to share about what has been happening and do so in the near future.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I wish you all the best in your quest to reunite with Spring, Brian.

    • salin

      Good to see you Brian. Looking forward to reading what is unfolding on your front. Looking forward even more to the day you tell us of a reconnection.

    • aquaclara

      Happy SP anniversary, Brian! You’re already winning. Now if you could just have your daughter back….that will be the best news ever. Best of luck to you!

    • Ella Raitch

      {{{{hugs}}}} the Brian. Happy Suppressiversary

    • Excellent! I hope your legal struggle is fruitful. What is needed to seriously affect the criminal orgnisation known as the “church” of $cientology is victims standing up for themselves and each other.

  • Simi Valley

    Midget, it’s time to put down the Macallans and word clear “hubris.” And no, it’s not a circumcision ceremony for old Lardass.

    • Draco

      You are so bad. In a really good way!

      • Simi Valley

        Thanks … I do my Noo Yawk best.

    • Juicer77

      *snort*

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Just enough time to catch my breath and the Today show segment. Lost it. Lost it just as I lost it when I contacted Phil immediately after seeing this to find out what’s up:
    http://i.imgur.com/vHUZzKl.jpg?3

    Been busy with fun stuff but also frustration of waiting a week on family medical emergency which is what reminded me of why Phil posted the missing flyer in the first place. I tried not to show it, but I lost it then too. When I asked Phil if I could help, he mentioned more fliers, more orgs.

    But then I had an idea. I never would have suggested a call me billboard to Phil, or asked Artoo45 to do an expensive rush job pro bono, or introduced him to Phil, never would have talked about a GoFundMe as we discussed and knew damn well what Scientology would try, never would have expected media attention, never expected this much financial support, never would have bothered tweeting the likes of Gibney, Leah Remini, Page Six and more, written and recorded a song in 48 hours – you know, the usual stuff

    Never would have done one single thing like that if it wasn’t for the impact Phil and Willie had on me when I first met them and especially talking to them about the disconnection issue. I knew without a single doubt that these two were at that point of no return, of full bore determination, of only the kind of follow through that I’ve known and seen from families torn apart and destroyed.

    I also got a few more details from Phil at that time that made me believe that this would actually get the media attention so needed but usually ignored unless a celebrity mugshot was attached. I knew Phil and Willie would bring it home. I have to say, Phil, I’m as surprised as you that this is going this big on media channels. I love that Dice is tweeting away too and hope to see this extended to online exposure keeping the donations and that billboard going.

    You two have handled this situation and spoken out to the media so well and with such impact. You spoke as a worried mom and dad from America. Scientology spoke as the Thought Police from Oceania. Mr Hole and I think the world of you both and know this has just begun. Word: Magnificent. Thank you.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Bravo for Team Bunker! Together we can do ANYTHING.

      You are truly amazing, m’lady. I know you didn’t post this for the kudos and I know it’s not why you pulled out the stops to help a miracle come together, but just shhh and be told. You’re great ๐Ÿ™‚

      Love to the family member who is unwell.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Thank you Andrea. Yes to Team Bunker. The GoFundMe day took me back to the Headley fundraising days. Days like that drag us all back to the reality of how most people are good and compassionate. That doesn’t sell like nasty ogre stories. So good to have a fresh breath of balance.

        As to me, any who’ve known me for years know that I was born with the handicap of a missing diva gene. Good for my friends, but a real career downer. Maybe because I was often around so many inflated yakking egos that I grew to not want to sound like them ever! I’ve been told it’s a fault, so it is hard for me any time I do say something.

        Also, I have my own reasons I have always been about the kids and families and am so intent on stopping disconnection for good. I hope you can rally the troops over your way for any exposure – just flash them one of your smiles and perhaps a baked good dish:)

        • Juicer77

          Hope things have settled down after the medical stuff. Hugs to you both.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)
    • Dice

      Thanks! and i can tell you something is “brewing” and it’s HUGE! ๐Ÿ™‚ sorry can’t say more!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        You had me at brewing ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Draco

        I am hearing rumours of brewing and I can’t wait!!
        Or is that “rue-mors”?
        More rueing on the cards for $cn???
        Definitely.

        • Dice

          Scientology will Rue the day they cognite on the fact that they should not have trained all those people in LRH dirty tricks and PR “Tech” and trough them out on the street only to gather here at the bunker and fight back with all they have learned. ๐Ÿ™‚ That was a HUGE mistake on their part ๐Ÿ™‚

      • aquaclara

        NICE. Thank you, Dice, for jumping in here with all kinds of goodies!

        • Dice

          You welcome – We all play a part in this! And there is lot’z of room

      • Allie

        Delightful words – Huge and Brewing!
        *Cheering and patting shoulder to be patient*

      • Juicer77

        (f5)

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Wow Dice, we are waiting but not patiently…

    • aquaclara

      THERE you are. Three days of tissues and happy smiles and sad ones, too, for all those who are missing to their families. This is what you’ve missed, which in actuality is much less than what you and Mr Hole really miss—those friends and families you’ve each lost to this damn cult.

      I am sending you huge hugs, too. In thanks and in dear friendship. Wishing you well with your family emergencies, and with a speedy, positive resolution (the kind that comes from excellent, professional medical professionals, for any lurkers out there.).

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      “You spoke as a worried mom and dad from America. Scientology spoke as the Thought Police from Oceania.”

      Yes. A very important observation. Phil and Willie speak from the heart, and they sound like you and me and our neighbors next door. The CoS sounds like the spoiled mean girls at the lunch table who never learned their manners. The difference in tone–something you’d think these communication experts would understand–is laughable. I’m so so glad that this story is resonating with people beyond us watchers.

      And you, Lady Hole…Thank you so much for instigating this! Good to see you round here today and hope all is well now with the family.

    • WOG with Attitude

      Kudos! This is amazing! Scientology called Phil and Willie “stalkers” for wanting to talk to their own children!!!!

      Best foot bullet ever!!!

  • I just want to offer my sincerest thanks to Phil and Willie for doing this, and to everyone who helped them make it happen.

    • chukicita

      {{hugs for Derek}}

  • April

    Phil said, “I wondered who L. Ron Hubbard was talking about when he denigrated news people. Havenโ€™t met those guys yet.”

    LRH was deathly afraid of anyone with the credibility and knowledge to expose his scam.
    News/media and psychiatry/psychology top the list of the types of people who might be able to expose him for the charlatan that he was.
    Of course LRH (and by extension, the CO$) is going to attack and denigrate them.

    • Dr_Orpheus

      He feared them for good reason. During the 60s, the British media uncovered his second wife, prior occult practices, and phony degree.

  • Linda Clement

    Typing thru the tears … I just googled “Scientology,” clicked on “news,” and the list about the billboard was so big that Google deleted some of the links and gave me the choice to see all of them. I watched the first 5, will go back and watch them all. The first one – oh, the irony! – was Matt Lauer on the Today show.

    Phil and Willie and team, what you have done is stupendous. The billboard art is a stroke of genius and the media are eating it up. Your interviews are wonderful. You said exactly the right things. My prediction: the story will go international today, if it hasn’t already.

    I will keep donating every month for as long as the billboard is there. Please post reminders and the link so that everyone remembers. I hope the Ex-$ci’s websites and YouTube channels will do the same. That billboard is iconic and it should stay up until $cientology goes down!

    Tears and hugs to everyone. What an event – and it took place on Tony’s blog! You all did this. It’s a Bunker victory. I love you!

    ETA: Apparently there were so many calls from news media that $cientology couldn’t handle them all. The first few interviews had the usual “religious bigotry” canned response, but that changed to “did not respond.”

    • TexasBroad

      With THANKS! to “Bunker Friend” and “Another Bunker Friend” donations are now at $14,037.00.
      https://www.gofundme.com/reconnectingfamily

      • Dice

        All Right ! ! ! now we are moving ๐Ÿ™‚

    • “[…] there were so many calls from news media that $cientology couldn’thandle them all”

      A small group of critics have managed to overwhelm the organisational ability a billion-dollar organisation. That is very telling.

      Miscavige is probably personally directing the CofS response because he can’t delegate – he is terrified that if he does, and that person performs well, they will become a threat to his power. That attitude has likely degraded the organisation’s ability to respond so, even if he took a back seat, the result would still be a counter-productive mess.

      As membership ages, and numbers decline due to lack or recruits, I’m still betting on Scientology’s organisational collapse. Sooner or later, they will become a ‘religion’ with hundreds of ‘chruches’ but no members, and won’t be able to function at all.

      All that money will avail them nothing, because they will no longer be able to effectively deploy it – they will be like a military with a formidable armoury, manned by aging soldiers who don’t know how to fire the weapons without blowing themselves up and directed by an idiot general.

      • Jake Hamby

        This is exactly what I find fascinating about the organization itself (as opposed to what I find so horrifying about its psychological and human rights abuses of its members).

        It’s so badly run as an organization that its collapse is going to be sudden. I think the people who focus on Xenu and the religious stuff aren’t paying attention to the really interesting part of the story, which is the brittle 1950s authoritarian corporate business model.

        LRH’s “admin tech” will sink them long before any of his space opera stuff ever could. I think Xenu and the space opera stuff (at the higher levels) and the promise of OT powers (at the lower levels) are the only things keeping anyone believing. If it weren’t for their complete lack of any viable corporate strategy, psychotic leadership, and a complete inability to change course when situations demand it, they’d be in business for a long time. Look at the Mormons.

        • One of the reasons I started following Scietology when I was about 14 was a passage in a book called “Cults of Unreason”.

          It speculated about the stories people would tell about L Ron Hubbard if Scientology endured for a thousand years. Then, it seemed that you might be able to observe the origin of a world religion before it was mythologised.

          Since then, information technology and especially the Internet has made it impossible for organisations like Scientology to mythologise their origins because the facts are now readily available, and persistant. To create a mythology you have to be able to forget past reality, and that is no longer possible.

          I have also learned a little about new religious movements. The greatest challange they face is the death of a charsimatic founder. Those that endure share certain characteristics including the following:

          1) They quickly establish an effective form of corporate governence which is usually already operating while the founder is still alive
          2) They have a means of changing doctrine (e.g. via new revelations) so that they can adapt to new circumstances

          There are others, but these two are crucial – and it’s clear that Scientology has failed to achieve either.

          Hubbard did not properly provide for an orderly succession so, when Hubbard died, a crude dictator with no knowledge of the outside world seized power. Scientology never quite recovered from the purges which cemented the rule of Miscavige.

          Miscavige does not dare name a successor because he fears such a one would threaten his power. When he dies, or otherwise leaves power, there will be likely be a civil war that will disintegrate the organisation.

          The Mormons had a ruling body already in place, which legitimised a new leader so that they were able to move on from the death of their founder with minimal disruption.

          Scientology evidently cannot adapt to new circumstances. The unalterable truth of Hubbard’s every word is deep in basic doctrine – so deep that even the management dare not modify it. As it happens, they do not even have the imagination to realise that they need to change, let alone be able to try.

          The Mormons could produce new revelations and adapt to changing circumstances. Scientology is, as you say, not only relies on a “[…] 1950s authoritarian corporate business model” but is also encumbered with elements of dated pseudo-science which it cannot abandon, and tries to apply to the real world with calamatous results – for example Narconon.

          Whatever happens now, the CofS only has decades left. I have learned that the possibility that I could observe the origin of a new world religion was just not credible. Almost all new religious movements have a short life cycle, and almost never survive the death of their founder.

          Scientology once seemed to be an exception – but only because of Hubbard’s obcession with money. It appears to have lasted longer than others, but it’s actually a dead man walking. It can afford to pretend to be prospering., but obviously isn’t.

          This failure is down to the lack of corporate governance and and the fact that the isolated idiot in charge relies absolutely on “The Tech” to tell him what to do.

          I think we agree that collapse will be unexpected, sudden and near total.

  • Linda Clement

    OMG! US magazine’s story contains a link to a list of celebrity $cientologists and guess whose picture comes up first? I bet Cruise and Travolta are getting some phone calls from media today. And I can’t wait to hear what Leah Remini has to say!

    • flyonthewall

      http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-moms/news/parents-buy-billboard-to-reach-children-in-church-of-scientology-w201840

      CoS statement to US is amusing and bizarre. They refer to Mike and Emily as “offspring”. Ok then

      • Observer

        It’s easy to tell who the human beings are in this story. Scientology is the butthurt spoiled adolescent.

        • flyonthewall

          They really should hire a wog PR firm to speak for them. They’re so insular and out of touch with the real world their statements sound like they’re from Mars. The angry butthurt side of Mars

          • aquaclara

            and yet, Scientology’s continued footbullets are working out pretty well so far….for us.

            PS Totally OT. Did you hear I built two Lego firehouses yesterday?? You’d be so proud. No longer upright, but it was fun while it lasted. A set of 3 year old twins was delighted, because OF COURSE the firetrucks all needed their own firehouses, and we started with a mere one. Ok, now it’s back to putting out real flames.

            • flyonthewall

              I didn’t. That suxx you didn’t take pix while they were up ๐Ÿ™ Have fun!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        That’s one of the most epic responses I’ve ever seen from Miscavige. In one beautifully crafted repudiation he makes Scientology look like hideous ogres. Please, please keep this up, DM; every time you open your gaping maw and spew your bile into your Communicator’s dictaphone another fairy is born.

        • Draco

          So that’s where they are all coming from! They’ve taken over my house and have teamed up with my cat to make much mischief. I think i hear them laughing at me now…

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Heehee ๐Ÿ˜€ Those pesky fairies!

            • Draco

              That’s OK. We dragons understand other things with wings ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        I am so glad they printed the CoS’s entire response. They’re not fooling anyone anymore. The more they say, the worse they look. Hand ’em the rope and let ’em have at it.

      • WOG with Attitude

        Accusing Phil and Willie of stalking their own children was a stroke of Scientology foot bullet Magic!!!

        • flyonthewall

          acknowledging that they tried to get one in Hollywood and then demeaning the eventual location of the billboard was a classy touch

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Hope no one then Googles “scientology” “stalking and harassing”. Now that would be bad.

        • scientology certainly knows the definition of “stalking”….no wait, they just PAY others to do it!! parents wanting to be a part of their kid’s lives is NOT stalking you numbskulls!

          • WOG with Attitude

            Or just send one of their perfect OTVIIIs with a camera strapped to his head. Or pull a few of them out of the Hole & send them to LAX! No need to pay PIs, but they do that too. Yes, Scientology should just do a course in Stalking!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      That list is getting smaller and smaller

    • Allie

      Got a laugh that Ms. Krustie is shown as photo #6, following Eliz Moss and Danny Masterson.
      Bet she’ll be pissed about that.

  • Observer

    I can’t wait to hear from Tony’s inside sources about the internal kerfuffle this is causing. Hill 10!

    • Qbird

      Hill 10 – SO disaster!

  • outraged

    Funny musings about The Cruise Cake from Lainey.

    http://www.laineygossip.com/Kirsten-Dunst-tells-Graham-Norton-that-Tom-Cruise-sends-her-a-cake-every-Christmas/43534

    Is Kiki Dunst the only person who gets Cruise Cake? I feel like the answer is no. I feel like thereโ€™s a Cruise Cake List. And now I want to know who else is on it. How is the Cruise Cake List managed? Does he do it himself? Does he walk around like Truman Capote with his little black book for the infamous Black & White Ball, cackling about someone who got a cake last year but wonโ€™t get a cake this year? For sure Emily Blunt gets a Cruise Cake. And Paula Patton. Does Jeremy Renner get one though? Leah Remini definitely not. But if she used to, whoโ€™s getting her Cruise Cake now? Julianne Hough, probably.

    https://youtu.be/a33xxtCM6U8

    • i have to say it’s rather considerate and, no pun intended, sweet…..

  • Newiga

    Now this is a story to come home to after +12 hour work day! Phil and Willie, I’m so proud of you! I’m honored to be a part of the Bunker crew. :’)

  • chukicita

    I’m trying to figure out who authored (or at least signed) Scientology, Inc’s official response to the billboard story enquiries they’re getting.

    I seem to remember seeing the name Linda Weigand or Wiegand on one of the earliest stories. I was wondering why it wasn’t Karin Pouw. Now they all say the statement was issued by “the church” with no name on it…

    • Susan black

      We all know that official responses come from the little guy himself, but he doesn’t dare sign his name and take responsibility for the lies. Better to just sign “the church.” Kapow and Weigand must be somewhere nasty, atoning for their many sins.

      • chukicita

        Oh, of course he did. But I thought it was interesting that yesterday at least one of the earliest news stories had the name Linda Weigand associated with the church’s official ‘response’ but now I can’t find it anywhere at all.

  • nottrue

    This tells a story….

  • Vaquera

    Compare the billboard’s rapidly fulfilled gofundme effort to that of Megan Fialkoff’s present efforts on her gofundme page trying to raise $20,000 for a NY Drug Free Gala & Concert. It’s received 7 donations in 13 days for a total of $1,095…$950 of which is from family members, her boyfriend and Sarah Ehrlich. So upstat. f5
    https://www.gofundme.com/DrugFreeWorldny

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Her first GoFundMe page barely received a dollar and this new one has been up since March but now all of sudden there are donations? Laughing so hard right now. ๐Ÿ˜€

      Go Phil & Willie!!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Mailman. I’m just the messenger:) If you have a moment.

        Also, within 15 minutes after my first Billboard tweet, the first to Alex Gibney, the second to Leah Remini, third to Kate Bornstein, $1,000 donation popped up. 15 minutes.

        And no one has asked for their trophies. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Graham

        Her previous GoFundMe attempt yielded precisely zero dollars. Not even a few dollars from Daddy to try to get the ball rolling.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Thanks Graham, last I’d seen it there wasn’t a dollar but I haven’t been back so I wasn’t sure if she’d managed to wrangle a few bucks. Good to know it never received a dollar.

          I’m betting this “fundraiser” goes dark when the next flap hits. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Observer

      What, nothing from her “journalist” friend at refinery29?

      • Vaquera

        Because Megan is an average, everyday public scio.

    • Roger Hornaday

      LOL! You have to wonder what exactly is going to be done with the raised money that will cause people the world over to stop wanting to take drugs. I may be cynical but I suspect somebody has an overdue mortgage payment.

      • Vaquera

        One has to wonder how they expect to throw a gala for $20,000.
        The funds are for:
        1) venue for gala
        2) Audiovisual equipment and staff for both events
        3) Travel expenses for artists
        4) Operational expenses, decorations, catering and signage.

        For 500 people? The caterer must be relying on the loaves and fishes method.

    • chukicita

      Hm. Usually a gala is a fundraiser. So why aren’t they using funds raised at the gala to pay for the concert for 500 NYC teens who have no other identifier or reason as to why they need a concert.

      Yet here they are raising twenty grand for… a venue, “audiovisual equipment and staff for both (?) events,” and artist travel, “operational expenses (a lot of wiggle room here), decorations, catering and signage for both events.”

      Twenty grand. Seriously?

      You have a Foundation attached to a church with oodles of broadcast studios and even a Celebrity Centre, and you can’t get space or A/V equipment donated?

      Artist TRAVEL? You’re in NYC, there are no artists there? And *travel*… but not artist’s fee or even per diem?

      Twenty grand for what — balloons, streamers, and foam core board?

      Get real.

      • I know we’ll have a little less than a 1/5 of that #; but I was thinkering of our Bunker group dinner. I know NYC has higher prices, but a place would give you a discount for a large event—they’re also non-profit, aren’t they?

        Our decorations are gonna be about $30 in materials and I’m making them—-no one take my fun away from me!!! But that’s centerpieces for like 6-10 tables.

        • chukicita

          Miss Tia, the Bunker group dinner is going to be 47x more beautiful, fun, and meaningful than Drug Free World’s events. They don’t even list a date, for Xenu’s sake!

          • We’ve got the date/time/place. Of course details are still being ironed out but it’s coming along! I would hope it’s 47x more fun than the DFW event! ๐Ÿ™‚ And hey, attendees will actually WANT to be there!! ๐Ÿ˜€

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    It’s crickets right now on the social media pages of a certain celeb scilon set. But I thought the last tweet Jenna left us with was rich. I got a nice Bunker snortle from this one.

    • Observer

      How can excellencies be dwelt upon when there aren’t any in the object of criticism? The only things at which Scientology excels are so horrible that it resorts to extreme measures to make sure they stay hidden.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Oh, dear Obvs…You’re trying to apply logic. That’s so sweet.

    • SucculentDuck

      “what have you done for me lately” – Janet Jackson

      “don’t rest on your laurels” – everyone after the decline of the Greek & Roman Empires

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner
    • JaxNGold

      Many of the replies to that article are getting under my skin. Sometimes I forget that so many people don’t have a clue about what really goes on inside $cientology and how a person can get mixed up in it.

      • Jake Hamby

        They just want to feel superior that they didn’t fall for that particular scam. Such people are often the easiest to fool in other areas, because they’re so smug about their street smarts.

  • Kim O’Brien

    OT – Rudy Gulianni is endorsing Donald Trump. I just want to reiterate

    YANKEES SUCK

    • Vaquera

      I moved from Texas to New England. Guess I shouldn’t expect any party invites from Colorado. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Kim O’Brien

        ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Does Denver have a baseball team? I know they have a football team.

      ETA: You should’ve said “Damn Yankees” then we could post their bad videos! ๐Ÿ˜€

      • Kim O’Brien

        The Colorado Rockies …but I am a Red Sox fan .

        • Hey! I learned something today, thank you! ๐Ÿ™‚ I should have probably known that, I’m woefully not up on sports!

    • gtsix

      The baseball team? Oh yes.

      But as an american from the northern Midwest. we yanks RULE.

      ๐Ÿ™‚

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • Draco

      You forgot to say “Paid for by the friends at etc…”

      • Ben Franklin

        Should be, paid for by Bob Duggan with a small contribution from his friends at the church of Scientology

        • Draco

          More accurate, yes ๐Ÿ™‚ Except friends should be “friends”

          • Ben Franklin

            that’s true, there are no friends in Scientology

          • PickAnotherID

            I thought it was supposed to be ‘fiends’.

  • Susan black

    Florida congressman Jolly ain’t so jolly now. Heh heh.

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    Son Michael’s birthday is today. I hope he finds some happiness in it. I’m pretty sure Scientology won’t be giving him any time off. We look forward to the day we can celebrate with him.

    • Draco

      Ah, Phil. This must be so hard for you. I am so sorry you couldn’t spend the day with Michael. here’s to many future birthdays together for all of you. XXX and HUGE ((((HUGS))))

    • Susan black

      Happy birthday Michael. We would all be so happy if you would just call home.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Pick up the phone Michael. We have caek waiting for you.

      Sending love to you and Willie today. To say you two shook things up would be a huge understatement.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Happy birthday, Mike. With love from thousands of strangers around the world who only want your happiness and for you to call your mum and dad.

    • flyonthewall

      I made this for Michael while at work just now. Happy birthday Mike.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn8iGAOOsXA

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        I want to work with her. ๐Ÿ˜€

        • flyonthewall

          she so craazy

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Aw, Phil. My heart breaks all over the place for you and Willie. And for Michael and Emily, who I’m sure deep down are you missing you both, too.

      C’mon, Mike, just a quick phone call. You can do it. We see how strong your parents are. The apple can’t fall that far from the tree. They’ll keep the line open for you…

    • Joe

      You had me choking up at work when I watched you on the Today Show, you and Willie are just such compassionate, steadfast people. Remember this: whether or not your son or daughter acknowledge it, and whether or not Scientology tries to stop you from being one, YOU ARE A GREAT FATHER. You’ve proven this by how you’ve worked tirelessly just to have contact with your kids, against all odds and the hedge maze that you’re kids are (temporarily) trapped in.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist
      • Dice

        Great! Going out- Tweety wit bom bom ๐Ÿ™‚

    • SucculentDuck

      Happy Birthday, Mike!

      (coffee’s on me, Phil)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV6_081vGsM

      • Christinadina

        I love these “epic” happy birthday videos so much!!!

    • Observer

      Happy birthday, Michael. Your music is waiting for you.

    • They’re probably doing everything possible to keep them away from any kind of tv, radio, etc right now. They WILL get the message and learn about this billboard. Deep down they KNOW you love them. They’re trapped, as so many are, with the conflicts of what scientology has programmed them to think; but they still FEEL. You can’t look at those family photos and not recognize the kids love you. That love REMAINS. Something will ‘click’ or there’ll be a straw that breaks the proverbial camel’s back for them. It will happen! Much much love to you and Willie!!!

    • Juicer77

      Happy birthday, Mike. Wishing the best for you.

    • Kay

      Happy Birthday Mike
      F5

  • State of Maryland Resident

    I am so amazed at how much media attention you have received!!!!!!! Congrats – I have spent the last hour in my office googling “scientology billboard” the story is everywhere – I have never been in the church but since viewing several documentaries – I have done much research – It is hard for us (non-scientologist) to understanding Scientology or how such smart, caring and wonderful people become involved, Please know you have the support not only from ex-scientologists but from mom’s like me – I would just die if my three sons did not speak to me – so my love and prayers to you both – keep up the good work and I will continue to give whatever money I can to your cause – this has to stop and all Americans should be ashamed that this is going on – from tax exemption, slave labor, disconnection, etc. My heart is with you and the many other families effective by this – you are brave people…. Your children are so lucky to have parents like you and my hope is one day you will all reunite with your families!!!!!!!

    • flyonthewall

    • Kay

      Great post, State of Maryland !!!

      • State of Maryland Resident

        Thanks Kay….. my heart goes out to all the families!!!

    • salin

      Welcome to the comments section of the Underground Bunker, State of M!

  • Dice

    Artoo45 made this Billboard banner in the right format if you have a Facebook profile or page.

    It’s easy to make a Facebook Page from your FB profile and you can still be anonymous with that page.
    This banner is becoming a “meme” and it’s the one that should go Viral if any.

    Everyone can do this and there is nobody to ask if you are allowed – just do it!

    Fill your FB page with content Text and pictures from where ever you find it and your page will attract other Facebook users so this will spread out!

    Other places to use this is, Twitter, Youtube channels, Imgur, Google+, and anywhere else you have or create an account. Thing is – This “Meme” will show up on search engines like Google and spread out to all corners of the Internet.

    Include links like these:
    http://www.gofundme.com/reconnectingfamily
    http://www.stopscientologydisconnection.com
    http://www.tonyortega.org
    And other links, you may have, at any opportunity, and they will show up eventually, all over the place and direct traffic to those sites.

    Also we cannot count on hijacking Tony’s site everyday so we need to spread out and make Phil Jones Billboard famous all over the world!

    Thanks!

    PS: I am not “in-charge” of anything and doing this on my own account and time.
    (F5)

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Anyone who can tweet or post this stuff to FB please do. Help spread the word (and help Dice get some sleep) ๐Ÿ™‚

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Also you can retweet anything from Dice’s twitter account. Some great links there:

        https://twitter.com/CallMePhilJones/with_replies

        • wait, that’s dice’s account? says phil…..

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Dice made it with Phil’s permission I believe. Just doing the work of the tweeting and such cause Phil is busy.

            • ah, okay, that really confused me…..some days it doesn’t take much! thanks!

            • Dice

              Yep!

    • Making lots of FB pages? Wouldn’t that possibly confuse someone trying to see if there was a group/page for the website/billboard? Maybe I’m missing something there—lacking sleep today.

      • Dice

        No.. not if those pages is referring to those links as StopScientologyDisconnection.com
        It’s more like a support-statement-page or any use of this billboard banner.

        I don’t suggest making a LOTS of Facebook pages just to fill up facebook with this. As a tool or campaign. But just if you have room for this on you pages! — Also lacking sleep ๐Ÿ™‚ Sorry

        • I read it as basically lots of FB pages with the banner and that info and that seemed rather redundant to me, as if there was one main FB page, all traffic could go thru there. I deleted my FB last fall and am now happily FB free ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Dice

            Yeah! i know what you mean. And we should not spam the whole Internet with this either.
            Yes i remember you deleted your FB ๐Ÿ™‚ I also squished my FB at that time, but suddenly a whole bunch of interesting people showed up, so i kept it.

            • I didn’t deactivate it, I selected ‘permanently delete’ and removed FB cookies and buh bye!!! Didn’t, and still haven’t, missed it one bit!! If people can ONLY connect via FB now, not my problem and they obviously don’t want to be ‘friends’ in the true sense. ๐Ÿ˜€ I’ve had some people, still, trying to get me to rejoin. Not happening and I point out they don’t know me very well cuz when I’m done, I’m D-O-N-E. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Artoo45 also made professional grade versions for formatting posters, tshirts, and more:

      These are posters and flyers with the โ€˜Call Meโ€™ artwork that can be printed off, or downloaded for larger printing:

      PDFs:
      1. Call Me Poster with space for a name.
      2. Call Me Poster for printing.
      3. Call Me Flyers (3 to a page) for Printing.

      JPGs:
      1. Call Me Poster with space for a name.
      2. Call Me Poster for Printing.

      http://stopscientologydisconnection.com/?page_id=615

  • Draco

    Good night, All you wonderful people. Sweet dreams of re-connection.
    Don’t forget to click the heart. XXX

    • flyonthewall

      XXX? x-rated good night to you too

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • Ben Franklin

      COB needs this.

    • Damn. I just threw out my cassette player 20 years ago.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Don’t worry, COB will happily sell you a Mark VIII Cassette Player for the discounted rate of $25,000.

        • Jake Hamby

          No, but they will sell you a CD player and headphones with some LRH-inspired audio filter module for $400. Probably costs them $30. They probably couldn’t charge any more than $400 without people realizing that you can use any damn CD player and headphones to listen to poor-quality mono recordings of old lectures. http://www.goldenageofknowledge.net/materials/listening-kit.html

          • edge

            But, but…Clearsound! Who are these crazy people the wogs call acoustic engineers when LRH developed the only sound encoding tech we would ever need in Clearsound! It’s so proprietary we don’t even allow the wogs to build it into the $20 CD player we sell you. It’s in this fancy EQ box you hook up into the audio out. It’ll be like you’re with LRH himself…

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Jake my friend, don’t you know? Regular CD players are so off-source and suppressive. ๐Ÿ˜€ LOL

    • flyonthewall
      • Rasha

        A “casual tour of some modern schools or universities…”… “…teachers and security guards, beaten and killed… students glaze-eyed with drugs, draped across doorways and desks…..”

        …and that was just the refresher French class! By Advanced Trig, it was Peyote and hand grenades! How we made it without Hubbard, I just…. just ….don’t know…. (snif…. sob)

        • flyonthewall

          I never knew my teachers were trained to look at me like I was a treacherous beast. That actually explains a lot. Thank you Scientology

          • Rasha

            Still working out the “draped across doorways” bit, but I’m sure with a proper infusion of “modern” education, I’ll figure it out….

      • SucculentDuck

        pretty good, just couldn’t get my booty moving. tempo was kinda all over the place. then the solo kicks in around 4:50min… and Whap! Blammo! Karinpouw! Zoom! love it!

      • Kay

        This is hilarious….I taught college and wow I didn’t see students draped across doorways or desks with glazed eyes, nor was I beaten or killed. I did have a few students fall asleep due to being up too late, and occasionally I got yelled at if I had to flunk someone on a test but that’s as wild as it ever got. The “casual tour” makes me howl with laughter…..like they really walked through any major university or college? Bwa ha ha.

    • edge

      Pomerantz at his absolute, over-the-top best

    • chukicita

      Why do they need a recording to “talk to them for you” if they’re already paying to learn how to communicate with anyone about anything like a boss?

  • I’m Dee Dee

    This such a great idea !! I hope this can stay up longer. How about an east coast board ?? Actually Florida …. We can do this !! Money very well spent !!

  • Tony Ortega

    Looks like I’ll be talking about the billboard on KABC radio in LA at 5:30 pm, talking with Jillian and John again. I always enjoy being on their show.

    • Jimmy3

      They have such alliterative names.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Is that Eastern or Pacific?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        3 to 6 pm – on their website, so would have to be pacific

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Danke!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Good news – Jillian and John – they’re gonna love this one. Jillian does the best “gasp” sound bites too.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I don’t have to be up early tomorrow so if there’s a live link I’d love it if someone could let me know.

    • Judith Sylvester

      Though there may not be much more to say about the fact that 2 backed down and 1 stood up, to me it’s a second story here that I value, and would enjoy to hear more details, if there are any to share.

    • aegerprimo

      Please give us a link to this interview. The last one you did was on PodBean as I recall.

  • Xenu is my Homeboy

    OT:

    This just popped up on Twitter : interview with Aaron Smith-Levin.

    https://twitter.com/PorkinsPolicy/status/718162224876011521

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I can’t keep up….and I love it!! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Seriously. It’s like the flood gates have opened and all I’ve got is this old inner tube. What a ride, though!

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Lets tie these things together and hold on. LOL ๐Ÿ˜€

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Sounds good to me. Rapids, ho!

    • Vaquera

      I am totally fascinated by the subject of NOI’s relationship with CoS. Will def give a listen.

      • FredEX2

        Yep! You can bet there’s certain ‘other’ people interested in that subject too. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    • Cars

      Iโ€™m listening to it on YouTube right now. At the 56 min mark, Aaron talks about disconnection.

      Published on Apr 7, 2016. This is the video description:

      “Today we are joined by former second-generation Scientologist Aaron Smith-Levin. Aaron became a member of the Church of Scientology at around the age of 4, after his mother joined up in Philadelphia. Aaron details his life within Scientology, from joining staff at age 12, to signing his billion year Sea Org contract in his 20’s, to eventually leaving the cult along with his wife and children. We discuss what it was like as a child growing up knowing nothing other than Scientology. We discuss how Scientology is often contradictory and at odds with its own belief system, along with the posthumous influence of L Ron Hubbard, regarded by Scientologists as both god and man.

      Later Aaron relates the fascinating story of how Patt and Annie Broeker were ousted by David Miscavige in the course of his quest to gain control of the group. We also discuss Scientology’s dangerous and barbaric views about disabled people; Aaron describes the “superman” mentality of Scientologists and how they blame disabled people for their handicaps. Aaron explains that Scientology doesn’t regard them as worthy of help, and explains the Scientological concept of “making the able more able.” We round off the podcast with a discussion of the current state of Scientology — Aaron and I talk about the involvement of Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam with Scientology, and what this means for the future. We briefly consider the rumours of OJ Simpson being a Scientologist, and Aaron notes some other interesting celebrities who dabbled in Scientology.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtzHElC5Qj0

  • Prim

    Looks like Russia is stepping up their efforts to get Scientology out of their country. Yesss.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=adV3DN4BXrs

    • Captain MustSavage

      Stunning. Vision of secret recording equipment that “would be the envy of intelligence services”. Pointing out how commercial it is. Concern about the gathering of sensitive information and the possibility of industrial espionage and blackmail. Money and info funnelled directly back to the States. Yep, Scientology has a real fight on its hands in Russia. Wonder whether we’ll see Cruise try to lobby the president this time?

    • Kay

      So ironic that in Russia they actually went after them for recording personal information but in the US, the government hasn’t cared.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    My friend Beth just posted this link to a Beck video that features a young Lucia right at the beginning. She’s so cute.

    https://youtu.be/DGCwUoKWcxs

    • flyonthewall

      very cool find

  • J. Swift

    The Church of Scientology’s horrible PR is self-created and wholly preventable. Scientology’s toxic PR is caused by its own cruelty and greed.

    How hard is it for Scientology to allow parents to talk to their own children?

    Scientology is viewed as a malicious cult, in large measure, due to Disconnection, and, Disconnection contradicts Hubbard’s claim that communication is the universal solvent.

    Disconnection is bigotry; it is the action of a bigoted Scientologists who are so hateful they will not accept any disagreement. Disconnection states: If you do not agree with Scientology then I will never talk to you again.

    This is bigotry. Scientology is a “Cult of Bigots” full of deluded spiritual snobs who actually believe they have special insights about the 75,000,000 year old cosmic political history of this part of the galaxy and special powers. Going exterior with full perceptions? Hell, these people long ago settled for changing traffic signals or finding lost objects as proof of their alleged supernatural powers. And to make their delusion worse, these same spiritual snobs will willingly disconnect from their own family members in order to sustain their delusion that they are a part of the most elite group on the planet. In this sense, Disconnection is emotional terrorism in defense of one’s own bigoted delusions.

    But look at how pathetic the practice of Disconnection is: If a group has to practice Disconnection to maintain cohesion, then all that is actually maintained is the cohesion of the group’s delusional structure — and even this fractures under the factual information readily available online. Hence, the Church of Scientology is extraordinarily brittle and can only protect itself from shattering apart by the use of Disconnection. Disconnection thus exists to protect the delusional structure of Scientology at the expense of families and friendships. This is a terrible price to pay for delusion and spiritual snobbery.

    *****
    Here is the #2 Bigot in all of Scientology:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

    • Jimmy3

      OT Lady used her postulates to get someone pulled over last week.

    • ze moo

      The only one envious of $cientology is North Korea.

    • Roger Hornaday

      I believe the main reason behind disconnection is to protect scientology from critical analysis. Its methodologies are supported by half-baked theories which fall apart when examined. It’s safer for a scientologist to scream “religious bigotry” than to defend its doctrines logically. Not only is it safer but it’s the ONLY recourse they have to criticism because scientology can NOT be defended logically.

      • I think that another function, back in Hubbard’s time, was to dispose of members who had run out of money and were no use as staff, without outraging their comrades. If you couldn’t (didn’t dare) communicate with the declared, you would never learn how badly they had been treated.

        As long as there were more recruits this practice would maximise income by providing a constant supply of new bank accounts while keeping their ownners in the dark about what was going to happen to them.

    • Narapoid

      I caught my breath listening to this. I stopped the recording at 2:17. “I won’t hesitate to put in ethics on anyone.” Tom’s niece has begun the ethics process at the time of this recording, thanks to Maverick’s will. Nick Lister (a notorious sp) tells Aaron-Smith Levin about his experience with her and the perverted “ethics” provided by the cult. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHd90deLz8Y

      By the time the mind-fuckers are done with her, she assigned herself a billion years of servitude.

      Fuck you Tom Cruise, you money raking turd-on-a-stick who thinks he’s a god.

  • Graham

    Major search engines such as google log your personal interests and tend to present you with results they think you might be most interested in. So Phil & Willie’s billboard is very likely to appear at the top of a search made by a dedicated Bunkeroo, but this doesn’t necessarily mean that it would come top of a non-involved person’s search.

    To overcome this I’ve just searched “Scientology News” on DuckDuckGo, a search engine which does not log your previous history, and thus does not have this in-built bias.

    The result? The Billboard comes in at numbers one, two and three! Fourth and fifth are obvious BS paid for cherch PR pieces. The Billboard is sixth, followed by two further paid-for PR pieces. The next seven entries are a mix of Billboard and reports of David Jolly doctoring his Wikipedia account to disassociate himself from the cult. So the top fifteen search results are either The Billboard, a politician distancing himself from the cult or pathetic parochial PR pieces about buying a building in Orlando or “local citizens band together to celebrate Motherโ€™s Day with an evening piano recital and refreshments in the historic Bank of Clearwater lobby”.

    • flyonthewall

      would searching in “incognito” mode in Chrome resolve the bias thing?

      • probably, probably same as a private window in FF too….

        • Graham

          Yes, that’s right. Difficult to keep up with all the latest real-world Tech!

        • Rasha

          I prefer Epic, using a proxy, but then, I’m a bit of a radical.

          • i no idea what epic is and i don’t care if i sound like edward! i’ll occasionally use proxies…..i was in california a few weeks ago and london the other night ๐Ÿ˜€ i travel that way!

            • Rasha

              Hehe! One of the better privacy browsers. The tradeoff is having to log into sites very very often, because it doesn’t keep history, like often at the session level.

            • i’d find that annoying as i’m not particularly patient….here’s an edwardism for you though—this was in person, so not a phone call….

              edward: have you ever heard of backpage(dot)com
              me: yeah why?
              is it like for sex ads?
              some of them and i dunno what else, you looking to get a hooker?
              no, i’d go down a few blocks for that [he was joking] i read about someone getting arrested for something they advertised
              what did they advertise?
              i can’t remember what it was, do you know where that site is?
              backpage(dot)com?
              yeah, that’s the page we’re talking about, i want to look at it
              think about what you said
              i want to know where backpage(dot)com is
              THINK [prolonged silence and i start to laugh]
              oh, that’s the site? backpage(dot)com?
              [laughter] duh!

            • Rasha

              “Quick! What’s the phone number for 911???”

            • i know i’ve posted this before but eddie calls ME to get his son’s phone # and his son calls ME to get his dad’s phone #…..uh??? i’ve suggested to BOTH of them they learn their respective #s and pretty much got the same reply “but you know the numbers” ::headdesk::

            • Rasha

              HAHA! I remember! Like calling someone for a number, who then has to look up the number on a post-it note. “Why don’t you just write it down?” “Because this is easier!”

            • i’m the damn edward and son operator!

            • Rasha

              SRSLY!!!

            • Robert Eckert

              as long as they don’t call you and ask what your number is

            • Frodis73

              Lol…I have had a few of those run ins…it’s like seriously? How long have you been on the net?
              eya typos

            • before he moved over here he was having his internet disconnected….let me find that transcript….omfg, i got into a rabbit hole of ‘phone calls with edward’ transcripts……when he was moving over here there were quite a few!! okay, i laugh about this one now…..this isn’t internet related but fuck, i’m laughing…..this is when he was moving over here around the corner from me…..

              another call….[i had had one earlier that day]

              who do i make my check out too?
              what are you talking about?
              for my rent and deposit?
              how much is your deposit?
              i dunno
              then how are you gonna write a check?
              i was gonna guess
              for fuck’s sake

              I dunno why, i am cracking the fuck up over that one now…..i really gotta put phone calls with edward on a site by themselves…..

            • A friend rang me up after I’d given him an old computer.
              He said he’d found a new program on it, but he didn’t know what it did.
              I asked him “what’s it called?”
              He told me “recycle bin.”

              To be fair, he has learned a lot since then, but we still laugh about that one.

            • daisy

              MY assistant still laughs about the time not so long ago I asked – What does desk top do ?

            • I was a late starter with IT.

              I try not to forget how unfamiliar it once was, and how hard it was to get a handle on the basic concepts.

              Still, I treasure the guy who complained that his (old-style cathode ray tube) monitor was faulty. I fixed it by advising him to use post-it notes instead of fridge magnets.

            • Oh that’s funny!!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Top independent research, that man!

      • Dice

        Ha ha! great

    • SucculentDuck

      good point about the search feeds … the positive is that many non-involved people do check the news sites/etc directly (or indirectly, by clicking on an off-topic that brings them there anyway) to stay on top of current events, and the Philboardยฎ will be there waiting for them when the do!

      just a reminder that the Mother’s Day event will be held in the Bank of Clearwater lobby

      • SucculentDuck

        for example, for funsies, i just went directly to http://www.today.com on a different web browser (w/ none of my search history) and this is currently less than 1/2 way down the front page, right in the middle:

    • littlefish

      Someone could also do google adwords to keep the disconnection website higher at the top – since it’s a non-profit google usually offers “scholarships” to pay for any possible expenses incurred.

  • Dice
  • Dave Reams

    Soon, but not soon enough, it is inevitable that we will be treated to (former) insider tales of David Miscavige’s meltdowns during this week which will keep us chuckling for years to come.

    • Sherbet

      IhopeIhopeIhope!

    • musical chairs WAS videotaped……i would not want that shown for the participants sake; i’d want it shown for david miscavige’s sadism to be displayed!

      • Since then, video has moved from physical tape cassettes to computer files – which are much easier to leak (see the Panama papers). After the organisation has degraded just a little more, and these things are not so efficiently guarded, you may get your wish.

        • sashiebgood

          this *IS*scientology we’re talking about, they still use freaking telexes. I bet that video is still on a vhs tape.

          • Yes, that one is, and they have likely stuck with them for longer than most. Sooner or later, though, they will have to move on. The video camera in the hand of the Scientologist is the clip fronm louis Theroux’s film wasn’t VHS, for example.

            Tapes wear out and jam, too. If you want to enjoy them for years to come, you are going to back hem up…

      • Dave Reams

        … shown in a courtroom!

  • Sherbet

    The church is so supportive of Mike and Emily, saying it’s happy with their choice to remain scientologists. Yet if Mike and Emily leave the church (dare I say WHEN they leave the church?), we all know the church will issue a statement saying they were asked to leave because of their crimes.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Expelled.

      • Sherbet

        Yes, that’s the right verb. //laughing//

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Something we’ve not tried before is smuggling a Bunkerite behind enemy lines to infiltrate Miscavige’s inner sanctum. How are you with shorthand? I’m thinking it would be fairly easy to pass you off as the new “Lou” without all “extra benefits”, of course. Once in place you can re-write all press releases and, obviously, stage a friendly takeover.

          • Sherbet

            I’m your gal! I’m excellent with shorthand. I could also hide a GoPro camera in my mop of hair, a microphone in my belly button, and an iPad, um, somewhere. Where do I catch the Greyhound bus to LA?

            • shorthand off!!! (that doesn’t sound right….) shorthand competition?

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Heehee!

            • Sherbet

              She’d probably win, since my hands just ain’t what they used to be.

            • daisy

              I hope you are taking care of those wrists and resting when they get too painful.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              jinx

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              You AND Tia! Could you imagine the chaos the pair of you would cause? I’m cracking up ๐Ÿ˜€

            • I have the bonus experience of dealing with difficult individuals: ie: Edward ๐Ÿ˜‰ I also will confront potentially violent pieces of shit too—ie: Vibrating Volvo Made Me Snap! ๐Ÿ˜€

            • Sherbet

              Tia and I could be a team. I’d sleep when she’s on duty and vice versa.

            • not the type of tag team i ever thought or imagined i’d be a part of….

            • Sherbet

              Gotcha.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              We could have a very nerdy shorthand and typing contest. Gregg, I presume?

            • Sherbet

              It was called Gregg Diamond Jubilee, if I remember correctly.

            • forkner that i’ve changed a bit thru the years to my liking…..shorthand was the only thing i learned in high school!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oh crap – you and Sherb already know too much. I concede. Have at it.

            • they should still teach that in high school…..i’ve taught some symbols to hood kids thru the years to facilitate quicker note taking when i was helping a couple with retaining things better….take shorthand notes, transcribe ’em that night or next day—when you do that you ‘rehear’ what the teacher said, then study from them…..

              hell, anyone ever saw 1/2 the notebooks in my house they’re mostly filled in shorthand…except my haiku, for unknown reasons i always write them out…..

            • vicariousthrill

              i find notes all over the house in shorthand, from my mom who is gone these four years past. It is bittersweet, makes me want to learn so I can read her notes. She transcribed all her recipes before she died, though. i envy anyone who knows shorthand.

            • It’s never too late to learn!! You should be able to get a shorthand book on ebay or amazon that can help you decipher your mom’s notes!! I bet it’s Gregg shorthand, that is the primary shorthand that was taught.

            • vicariousthrill

              Thanks Miss Tia! I think my mom did Pittman, not sure. She worked way back in the day, the early 1940’s. But I had the same thought!

            • Just ask Mr. Google for examples of Pittman and Gregg and compare to the notes. They might be similar (never heard of Pittman before). Then get a book off ebay or amazon and decode! ๐Ÿ™‚ If it was Forkner I’d volunteer.

            • Juicer77

              I have a camera you can borrow.

            • TexasBroad

              Don’t take it Sherb!!!! Who knows where that camera has been!

            • Sherbet

              o_O

          • dude, i know shorthand!!! i’m really good at that—and i don’t profess to be good at really anything…..but shorthand?? YES!!! i type fast too!!

      • expelled like a repeatedly truant student from school……though in this tax exempt entity it’s due to not donating enough cash; not blindly complying with every order; for actually thinking for themselves; for GASP! wanting to not devote every second to scientology; and the highest crime—questioning!

    • TexasBroad

      I upvoted because of the truth of your comment, but also because it tipped you to 120300 upvotes. I like counters! I’m the goof that takes car rides for no reason other than to watch the odometer hit a milestone. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Jimmy3

        And my down vote took her back down to 120299. Because I am the goof that is an evil genius.

        • Sherbet

          I prefer to think of you as a “goofy genius.”

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Bad Jimmy! Bad!

      • Sherbet

        Thank you, Texas! I have to say some part of me insists on hanging around the Bunker for the attagirls. Needy, aren’t I!

        • TexasBroad

          You deserve all the attagirls you get and more!! (Disregard goofy evil genius Jimmy3 below)

          • Sherbet

            Jimmy holds no power over me…over me…over me…yes, master…

            • Jimmy3

              Hah! My Hypno Ring works! Even I thought it was just a watermelon Ring Pop

            • Sherbet

              It works, and it’s delicious!

            • Jimmy3

              Sad truth: I buy Ring Pops for my 2-yr-old niece, but I usually end up eating most of them myself. Is it still stealing candy from a baby if you purchased said candy?

            • Sherbet

              I’m not sure. I suggest you confer with Atty. K. Moxon. He knows everything about stealing.

            • Jimmy3

              Hah

            • Illinoisian

              ^^Laughing^^Upvote^^

      • PerpetualOutflow

        LOL, that is SO Texan of you.

      • (with you on that one – pulled off road to get photo of odometer rolling through 00000.)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Scientology should lose their tax exemptions just on the basis of their continuous illegal practice by policy of religious discrimination. That’s what it is. Scientology discriminates against anyone who is not a Scientologist. This is Damn true.

      • Sherbet

        You must be one of them there bigots, TH.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Yes. Yes I am. Big OT

          • Sherbet

            Scientology’s evil is so blatant that one doesn’t have to be an ex to recognize it. That “church” has an ugly soul. If that makes me a religious bigot, well, sticks and stones, etc.

          • Narapoid

            Thanks Thdne! I almost fell out of my chair laughing! Great points too

      • chukicita

        It’s a hate group. Nothing but contempt for wogs, wog law, or anyone who would ask difficult questions.