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There’s a backstory to the recent news of a Scientology TV ad being banned in the UK

VMad

[The claim that got this 2015 Scientology ad banned.]

When we saw the news last week that the U.K.’s Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) had banned a Scientology television commercial, we immediately assumed that we knew who had made the complaint about the ad that eventually got it taken down.

The TV ad made the same claim — about Scientology’s “Volunteer Minister” program aiding some 24 million people — as appeared in a print ad last summer which was the subject of a complaint to the ASA by Underground Bunker commenter Once_Born, who runs the the excellent Scientology Books and Media blog.

We assumed Once_Born was also behind the complaint that took down the TV ad, but it turns out we were wrong about that, as you’ll see. But we’re still glad that we asked him about it, because he sent over this interesting backgrounder on the ASA and Scientology…

 
Sadly, I didn’t have anything to do with the ban of the Church of Scientology TV advertisement in the UK. I don’t even own a TV. However, a previous complaint which I drafted might have had some influence on the fact that this ad was banned, not merely withdrawn.

After some success with a complaint against Narconon Scotland (they took their entire website down and it has never reappeared) I complained about an ad in the magazine New Statesman which made claims about “Volunteer Ministers.” I also encouraged others to complain by describing how to do so online. The New Statesman ad was placed as part of a Scientology campaign (which included electronic billboards in London) back when Going Clear, the documentary film, was about to be broadcast.

 
NewStatesman2

[The New Statesman advertisement]

 
The ASA upheld our complaints and Scientology withdrew the ad and promised not to do it again. A subsequent complaint about an online video failed. This made the same claims and included the same images but it was hosted on a US server which fell outside of the ASA’s remit.

You have to understand that the ASA is not a government body. Government has avoided statutory press regulation for years, for fear of accusations of censorship. It is an independent organisation paid for by the media it regulates. They are not as rigorous as the law would be.

The first stage of an investigation into a complaint is informal — they try to resolve the situation by persuading the advertiser to voluntarily withdraw or modify a questionable ad. This is what happened with our New Statesman complaint. The only downside for them was that when the complaint was upheld, this fact was recorded on the ASA website.

However, if an advertiser is uncooperative, or proves untrustworthy, a formal investigation can be launched, which has greater powers. It’s possible that the ASA looked at previous complaints, saw ours, noted that the Church of Scientology had broken its promised not to repeat specific claims about VMs and escalated. I hope so.

It’s also possible that the reporters didn’t do their research and characterised another withdrawal as a “ban,” but I don’t think so.

Ultimately, the ASA has the power to require recalcitrant advertisers to submit copy before it is published, and it has been my aim to force them to do this by demonstrating that Scientology promises cannot be trusted. Consequently I am very interested in UK ads, especially those concerning VMs

In conclusion — I’m disappointed to have missed this opportunity, but glad that someone else took it up.

 
Thank you, Once_Born. According to the Guardian, the ASA banned the TV ad because Scientology couldn’t produce any real evidence that its VM program has benefited 24 million people. We know, of course, that any of the numbers you see in a Scientology ad need to be considered pure fantasy, as we demonstrated more than four years ago.

 
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DeCrescenzo hearing delayed a month

On Friday, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge John P. Doyle decided to postpone a hearing that was scheduled today in Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced-abortion lawsuit against the Church of Scientology. The hearing, which will consider Scientology’s latest motion for summary judgment in the seven-year lawsuit, will be held on April 5.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Here’s Mark Bunker with today’s XENU TV archival video: “Shot in 2000, Al Buttnor was brought into Clearwater after the opening of the LMT to help with ‘PR chores.’ I asked him about one particular task a caller to the LMT had said he performed.”

 

 
Forward this quote to your friends!

 
LRHControl

 
Rod Keller found this extremely depressing post yesterday on Facebook. Does anyone know Desiree? Can anyone tell us the name of her father or his wife? We’d like to look into this a little more.

 
DesireeSilvani

 
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  • outraged

    OTTennis: In case anyone else was wondering wtf was melodonium, which Maria Sharapova was using for 10 years until it and she were banned — great article below.

    https://jakegshelley.wordpress.com/2016/03/03/what-is-melodoniummildronate/

    • StudentOfLife

      For those who don’t know, it’s been rumored for years by those in the upper coaching levels (and I am part of that tennis coaching world) that Maria was taking HGH at least at some point. I could see how this one slipped through as it was just banned in tennis Jan 1st. There is an entire website dedicated to exposing the hypocrisy of tennis drug use which I am somewhat skeptical of as to it’s claims but it provides pictures of it’s claims of some famous pros. After Maria won her first Grand Slam she actually grew at least two inches around age 20 to 21 (some claim three inches). Her father is 5’11 and her mother 5’7″ if I remember correctly. At one point, Maria missed part of a year at about age 20 because part of her breast bone did not grow in conjunction with her the rest of her rib cage. I have had some of my own student’s take HGH (I never have and did not approve, but one of my better players admitted it to me when I asked how he got so big and strong). I know men who take HGH and suggested I do also. I kind of became infamous in tennis coaching circles ten years ago when I analyzed a video of Sharapova on a very public tennis forum and predicted because her swing was too much linear and her hand was going through the target line too much she would likely suffer a severe shoulder injury. Shortly thereafter, she actually did nearly the exact injury I predicted and many coaches started thinking my then original claim of the ratio of the hand going across the ball must be greater than the hand going through the target line had real merit in understanding the optimal modern tennis swing. This is why I believe Maria recently suffered her forearm injury; women do go through the target line more than the men do and her, in my estimation, too linear swing has contributed to a high injury rate for her.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’ve missed seeing your posts for a while. Have you been disconnected yet?

        • StudentOfLife

          Lurking and catching up with life being busy. Preclear is hanging in there. I sent Tony Ortega the screenshots of my attacks on Miscavige being the real squirrel after PreClear and I had a long phone conversation where I pointed out that OT5 gave me the State of Man cassette tapes with the old version of Hubbard’s story how he was there at Battle of Bunker Hill and that I had listened to them and then I asked to listen to her version on DVD which had omitted all of Hubbard’s version of the story. She told me to take my copy to the OSA office in Hollywood (insisted on it, she claimed that the copies of Hubbard’s lectures bought by OT5 from Clearwater were obvious forgeries and could not be trusted, that is why Miscavige had to redo everything). She had challenged me to read Dianetics and when I quoted it she stated that all the anti-abortion cases in the womb were because Hubbard was a humanitarian concerned with all the back alley abortions of the 1940s era. She had an answer or a distraction for every quote I asked her to address that was an obvious lie by Hubbard. Total master at obfuscation and deflecting any real debate.

          She got very upset when I asked her why she could not express a Doubt Formula and look for herself and why she always referred my questions to OSA or superiors. At that point, she stated her three options including disconnection but decided to handle it by referring me to the OSA given my claims and questions. She said I must have some “charge” I need to blow from a previous unresolved incident given my resentment over losing six figures in investing money in a business with OT5 that she claimed had nothing to do with Scientology (she is out 250K solely from the cult and they got her to recently pay for the SRD and puriff again for OT5……but the truth is that stock business scam was run and is now bankrupted by the Scilons pulling the strings). Tony’s comment to me was his observation after viewing the screen shots of my texts attacking Miscavige and her faith was of how patient she was with me. We have only talked tennis since then but she’s very nervous around me.

          • Missionary Kid

            My hope is that she has some doubts, and that is why she doesn’t disconnect from you. She’s calling in the troops by asking you to take your crap to OSA, I believe because she knows, somewhere inside her, that you might be right, that she isn’t willing to hang in there.

            Possibly, she’s as afraid of $cientology as of you because she has doubts. At this point, by avoiding any mention of $cientology, she’s avoiding confrontation and the necessity for disconnection.

            I have a suggestion. If you get into another discussion, and she makes a ridiculous claim, just repeat it back to her as a question and stop.

            She: This is obviously a forgery.
            You: Obviously a forgery?
            She: Yes, that’s what I’ve been told.
            You: That’s what you’ve been told?

            If you don’t actually reply or interject something else into the conversation, you’ll find that she’ll start blustering and explaining.

            I’ve seen it used, and it can be quite effective in getting a person to open up and quit parroting what they’ve been told. You are keeping yourself basically out of the conversation. In trying to convince you, hopefully, she’ll be expres her own thoughts.

            • StudentOfLife

              I will try that tactic because when I actually asked her did she really believe it was a forgery given OT5 bought it from Flag and it’s a tape of Hubbard’s words, not a transcript from cursive writing or typing. That really flustered her, I remember. I had the feeling she was stuttering looking for explanations as I was “loaded for bear” but I think I then changed to a new accusation rather than let her foam at the mouth and drown in the taste of a sea of cognitive dissonance now welling from her very soul.

            • Missionary Kid

              The silence is an effective and necessary tactic after you’ve repeated the question. People don’t like silences, so they’ll try to fill them. I’ve seen someone reduced to a quivering mass of uncertainty, and doubt, confessing what their real problem was, and this was a highly intelligent person.

          • phoebequeen

            Wow.

  • Alice Graves

    How strange that scientologists can embrace profanity laced anger as a useful emotion, but not sorrow or regret. “Gee, Dad, I guess you dropped the body. Well, have a great trip. Hope you tow the line next time around.” She probably went about her errands that day with a spring in her step knowing she had claimed the moral high ground over her dad this lifetime.

    I can’t think of anything more astounding.

    • Xique

      Astounding.

  • nottrue
    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Thanks for sharing, Nottrue! Also thanks to Qbird for the comment left on this article outlining what the billboard was to actually say so people realize it’s not the “anti-Scientology” billboard they likely picture after that headline!

  • Sunny

    While I was being raised in Scientology, and while I was in the Sea Org, I was disconnected from my biological father. From 1975 to 2004 (except for that brief period when we were at Flag when I was 10 and he managed to come on base on the weekends and visit with us before it got found out about and we were whisked away in the night back to LA, away from him).
    During that time of being disconnected, many things went through my head about it. As a child being disconnected, I just could not believe it. I thought I should be given the chance to see and meet him for myself and find out if he really did have horns and a tail. Besides that brief visit at age 10, it was not to be.
    As I got older, I understood (I guess) what an SP was. Well, he had an SP declare. So I dug it up and read it. I think it was all of three sentences and it really made no sense. I just had to take my moms word for whatever he had done that must have been so terrible.
    So I set out to see what he would have to do to fix it. Turns out the 1991 amnesty would have applied to him. All he had to do to be back in touch with my brother and I was to write up some transgressions and pay his freeloader bill (which was only about $200). I had a friend in the IJC (International Justice Chief Office, the only people allowed to talk with SPs) and she told me she would try to recover him. To no avail. A couple of years of trying and she gave up too.
    Never did it cross my mind that:
    1) Something might be wrong with Scn
    2) That he or I may never meet. Maybe one of us would die before that happened.

    When I finally woke up and got myself out of Scn, it still took me several years to track him down (with some help from ESMB members, I was able to locate him, but getting in touch was not that easy).
    We finally did get in touch (and have been since then) and had several visits and long talks about things. I did ask him why he never tried to see us, tried to get us out, tried to get back in good standing, etc. I got my answers to those questions, which are too personal for this message board.
    I guess my point is that poor Desiree… a lot of things about disconnecting from her dad very likely never occurred to her. And they won’t until she wakes up. It is a sad thing.
    I can’t believe I wrote all that….

    • salin

      Your empathy, and sharing, evokes compassion for Desiree. Very sad.

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Thank you! It helps to see that side of things (from the inside). I’ve felt nothing but disgust since reading her post, yet after reading your story, I do see there may be more to it. I’m very thankful to hear you were reunited with your father before it was too late!

    • Suzy

      Thank you for sharing that, Sunny. Like Jenyfurrrr, your post helped me postpone judgement on Desiree, because we truly can’t know where her head is at. I’m glad you were able to reconnect with your dad before it was too late for you. (((hugs)))

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I can believe you wrote it. Your posts here have shown you to be caring, compassionate, insightful, and willing to share even when the thoughts or memories are uncomfortable or painful. I applaud and appreciate you for that.

      Desiree’s story elicits a confusing reaction I keep having these days: I want to hug her and strangle her at the same time. Her decision to disconnect in the first place is frustrating, but her obvious conflict over it makes me deeply sad. That the conflict doesn’t seem to be obvious to her (consciously) frustrates me all over again. It’s so hard…I read these stories and feel like I know where this will end and it’s nowhere good and there’s nothing I can do about it.

      I don’t know if my moon is cycling or my hormones are in retrograde or some shit, but these stories are really wearing me down right now.

      • Sunny

        I have hundreds of these kinds of stories. Thousands.
        Sometimes I wonder why I post them…
        Then I get responses like these and I see how insight can help others understand.
        It’s not right, but it’s understandable….

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Your stories are very important Sunny. Of course, you should only share what you’re comfortable with sharing but you never know who might read them. You’re educating people on what truly goes on behind the shiny facade Scientology puts forth to the public.

          • Observer

            And yanking off the masks of the originator and current perpetrator of the atrocity that is Scientology.

          • Sunny

            Here is another small story of a specific person. If I mentioned the name, most of you would know the family name. This person was in the Sea Org. Actually, she still is. Her mom/dad were SP declared. Her grandmother was dying. She found out about her grandmother dying and asked me to see if there was any way she could at least call, if not visit, her grandmother. There was NO WAY without violating Scn rules. She had to stay disconnected because the SP parents were in touch with the grandparent.
            This person cried and cried about it, quietly. For days. She was deeply upset and hurt because of this. But there was no other way. Her grandmother passed away without even a letter or call or anything from this grandchild. That grandchild was as deeply hurt as anyone. But on the outside, they act like they are doing it because they decided to. No. They disconnect because that is LRH policy.
            They ACTUALLY BELIEVE you are doing the person a favor by disconnecting. It gets the SP on the right road to proper recovery, which are the A to E steps of Scn.
            I am sure Desiree, in some way, would feel that too.

            • OOkpik

              How is a gravely ill person supposed to do A to E? That can’t make sense to even a died-in-the-wool Scientologist. If the threat of disconnection weren’t hanging over their heads, I’d bet that most Scientologists would run to their loved ones. That’s what terrifies Miscavige.

              Thank you for the courage to keep speaking out. Scientology abuses flourish in the shadows and your helping to bring them to light is such a gift. <3<3

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I am so sad for the granddaughter as well as her grandma. I hate disconnection, and that is a big part of why I am here. My family member disconnected from me for several years and then reconnected again with no explanation but said it was his fault, he should have handled me, it was not the church’s fault that he disconnected, but his own failure. It made me so angry to hear that (by the way, he dd NOT ay, “I’m sorry.” He said, “It shouldn’t have happened.”)

            • Sunny

              So sorry to hear this. Some people take a lot of time to work these things out….

          • Linda Clement

            Speaking as the public, YES!

        • aegerprimo

          Keep posting Sunny. ♥

        • Talking about what is not right can be right – very right.

          Your posts – and posts by other ex-victims – are very important in allowing outsiders a glimpse of the upside-down world inside the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $ientology and I applaud everyone who speaks up.

          So, lovely work, please carry on 🙂

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          Your stories touch my heart and educate me all at the same time. I’m only one person and a never-in. I can’t imagine how impactful they are to someone who needs to relate or to a lurker who’s seeking truth. Your posts are passionate, raw, honest and the type of thing that has great power. Thank you for feeling safe and being courageous enough to keep sharing here!

        • Linda Clement

          There are some stories that can’t be told too often. This is one. I learned this from Karen DelaCarriere: each disconnection is heart-wrenching to read. It’s not until you realize that $cientology has done this thousands upon thousands of times that you begin to see the enormity of its evil. It’s like trying to count snowflakes.

    • Eileen

      Such an important thing to write for those that have similar experience, helps them.

    • daisy

      Thank you Sunny. It is helpful to all, but to never-ins like myself you first hand experience help to explain the experience . It makes it easier to support the exes.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Sunny, what a brave post. You are right that poor Desiree may not realize until she leaves, the damage done to her and her family by the toxic disconnection policy. I am so glad you are now in touch with your father.

    • aquaclara

      Like we see above, there are others still living in this kind of situation who simply cannot understand or explain why they are stuck in a complicated situation. You just described it. There are many who may see this and start to put the pieces together.

      Your comments make people sit up and take notice. So while I really want to offer you hugs and cookies, I’m simply going to say thank you for sharing this tough stuff so honestly. Know that the hugs–and cookies–are here whenever you need them.

      I have been following Scientology from this side of the fence since 1975 or 1976, and I am still surprised just about every day. All of you who explain the why and the what deserve a ton of credit.

    • phoebequeen

      wow. Thank you for sharing your story. Maybe , it will help people in ways you will never know.

    • While it’s a stretch of the imagination to see Desiree as a victim (after all, she is the one expressing the cruelty of the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology), I don’t think she had a free choice (or even the ability to access all the important information) when “deciding” to disconnect from her father.

      The victims of the mind-fuck perpetrated by the Co$ do not have the ability to make informed, free, choices. Thus they sometimes become perpetrators of the abuse. Only the Co$ wins, and that’s mainly in its collective imagination.

  • nottrue
  • Franklin Adams

    Good. Glad to hear that the ASA is still happy to smack down bad advertising. I don’t get why they’d lie about it. In disaster response there’s someone keeping track of everything in most places. How the hell do I know what I need unless logistics knows who is doing what with how much?

    Its a damned shame someone can’t nail their asses to the floorboards in the US, or at least throw them off the National VOAD organization for lying, it really irks me that they’re for all intents and purposes there to take advantage of the situation and there’s next to nothing anyone can do. I just wish we could make em go do debris removal with the contractors, National Guard and State Defense Forces (if the state in question has them). They’d lose their enthusiasm for trying to exploit survivors real quick, I have a feeling. Doing debris removal is about the worst job in the response/recovery effort thats not Search and Rescue or DMORT [disaster morturary, its dangerous and heavy physical work with an ever present, lingering dead plant/dead animal smell. After about 5 days of summer heat, the decomposition smell from the rotting plants and dead animals is something else with the humidity making it just that much worse. And thats just from a Hurricane in the East in the summertime or early in Fall. Other hazards suck just as bad in their own way.

    I don’t see the Mennonite Disaster Service lying about how many houses they rebuilt last year or Nechama lying regarding how many meals and bottles of water they handed out. You know why? Because someone would call them out on it.

    Why lie about it? You’re going to get caught lying. In the world of disaster response and humanitarian aid, word gets around quickly because its not a very large community at any level from local to international.

    I can only speak for myself, but neither academically nor professionally have I ever thought of mentioning or citing anything about the Volunteer Ministers, and I probably won’t until they try and start some shit with the Psychological first aid people that the DMATs and Emergency Support Function 8 planners are starting to integrate to various degrees.

  • Jenyfurrrrr

    Sorry if posted already, but Jonny does an excellent job (yet again) and this article shows how the Ideal Org preparations strike again and seem to have a LOT to do with the desparate measures these people will go to in order to “go Ideal!”
    https://www.byline.com/project/28/article/882

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Turning on the tears? That’s a new tactic. I guess OSA noticed that “you’re taking that out of context” wasn’t working with this Judge.

      • JOE BLOW

        How down tone of her!

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          So true. Maybe it isn’t a tactic, maybe it’s the pain of being tossed under the Co$ bus, then having it back up and run over her again? Cause we both know if this goes bad for Dave, all these folks are going to be the ones he blames. They didn’t make it go right. SMFH

          • PiP

            They’re trying to give the judge the “who’s on first?” routine & he’s not buying it. I like how they keep trying to reiterate that if someone’s not happy they can just leave. If there is ONE thing Scientology is known for, it’s their no one just walks away policy.

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Right? I’m loving this Judge. I want to import a few of him. 🙂

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Interestingly, one of the other defendants also cried, I believe Jonny had it last week. It could be orchestrated. But is it possible that they are crying just because they are so sleep derived and scared and under such stress?

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          One thing is for sure about Scientology: Anything is possible.

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        Seriously – and as soon as she was on stand it started! He’s also not buying their descriptions of what the OSA does – which makes me very happy!

    • salin

      It is an excellent series. Love the judge – especially in this piece. He is not buying it. (Paraphrase): “All 161 people misunderstood?”

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        Yep – he’s been commenting on the sheer number everytime they try to blow things off. I also love how he’s calling them all on their contradictory testimony and the directors and presidents- past who “had nothing to do with day to day operations!” Love this judge – hey judges here in the US – PLEASE pay attention!

    • Yep, the judge has their number

      “That is what I’ve been hearing from the beginning,” said the judge. He awaited the defence arguments with impatience, he added. “Because frankly, at this stage… phtt!”

      “What does that mean?” asked one of the defence lawyers, ready to take umbrage.

      “That I await your explanations,” the judge replied. And with that, he adjourned the hearing.

      • Jenyfurrrrr

        Aw – you quoted my favorite part!!! 🙂

  • Kim O’Brien

    any updates about another billboard company ?

    • Frodis73

      IKR? I’m dying to hear what is going on…

    • flyonthewall

      The story of the East coast owners nixing the billboard without explanation was picked up by rawstory and a few other sites. Links by nottrue are down thread. That’s about all

      • Robert Eckert

        RawStory was Tony’s place for a long time so it figures they still keep track of him.

        • flyonthewall

          it’s not anymore?

          • Robert Eckert

            He works with Lip TV (produces Alison Hope Weiner, Cenk Uygur etc.) now, left Raw Story last year.

  • Scientology and the black cat… given the rest of the them how how would you end “Scientology is….?

    • Science Doc

      That is a good one.

      • I have a couple but I didn’t want to influence the replies at this time… does make you think though

    • SucculentDuck

      … like being in a dark room and looking for a black cat that is actually a black widow spider telling everyone you’re using a flashlight but the batteries haven’t been changed in over 60 years and is really a blown out candle.

      • umm, ….okay

        • SucculentDuck

          #LRonic®

    • Okay, here’s mine:

      Scientology is like being led into a darkroom, hearing the door locked behind you whilst a voice says “trust me, there really is a black cat in here” whilst you simultaneously feel someone going through your pockets.

    • aegerprimo
    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Scientology is like being in a dark room, looking for light and stepping into a big steaming a pile of poop that a rabid black cat named LRH crapped onto the floor.

      Luckily 99.99999999% of folks can smell that shit a mile away and easily avoid it.

  • funnybroad

    Thanks, LEGOLAND.

    • funnybroad

      Obviously, Scientology doesn’t teach their parishioners how to secure their facebook content so that the whole world doesn’t see everything they post.

    • … he’s definitely turning into his mom

      • Rasha

        The background gives away the shoop, but it’s pretty funny

        • very, very little manipulation needed

          • daisy

            I have no love for TC , in fact I cannot stand him. I thought this was a real photo. I feel like when we shoop and it is not obvious sarcasm we are as wrong as the scientologists. Especially when it is a physical thing. Soap box dismounted.

            • flyonthewall

              def not cool to clearly mark it as a shoop

          • daisy

            I like that you added the real photo and let us know it was a shoop.

        • flyonthewall
          • Rasha

            Spared no expense.

            • Rasha

              Correction: Spared no expanse.

        • not much shoop needed… compare the actual versus the shoop… I actually burst out laughing after the slightest tweak and stopped right there

          pic

          • Rasha

            Yowza! Even Igor Sikorsky is checking the weight vs lift numbers…

          • aegerprimo

            I do not see a difference.

      • ze moo

        That’s some ass, and TC looks puffy too.

      • SucculentDuck

        DAT ASS THO! it’s like a 10lb ham in a 5lb ham bag.
        (edit: congrats to ze moo for getting the ass joke in 1st)

      • JOE BLOW

        Butt reduction, STAT!

        • ze moo

          I know where he keeps his parachute!

      • Observer

        Speaking of his mother, have her whereabouts been discovered yet?

        • definitely worth following up for sure

      • madame duran

        …and slipping into “mom jeans” territory.

      • aegerprimo

        fat butt mom jeans

      • phoebequeen

        oomph.

    • Observer

      Of all the adjectives in the English language, “cool” is near the bottom of the list I’d use for this pic.

    • ze moo

      There is a nice video on youtube of TC getting in a p-51 Mustang and taking off. The only problem is he is in the back seat of what is supposed to be a single seat WW2 fighter. It is obvious that the real pilot is in front and doing all the work. Mr. “I do my own stunts” is smart enough to let a pro do the real work.

      • Missionary Kid

        IIRC, he actually owns one.

        • ze moo

          Yes. but can he actually fly one? An old college buddy of mine is serving in the air force and he related a story about an Air Force General who kept his P-51 on base until about 10 years ago. The engine quit on take off and damaged the plane to the tune of 1 million dollars. That Merlin engine is great, but that tech is 75 years old.

          • InterestedObserver12

            The people of the Bunker have far greater issues with Mr. Cruise than whether or not he does his own stunts. Can we consign this thread to the dead file?

          • Missionary Kid

            Supposedly, he can.

    • Hamtaro

      This is confusing. I thought he hadn’t visited Surrey in almost two years? ♫ Badum tish! ♫

  • I think the new Los Angeles clam media centre should pay whatever it takes and pinch a couple of guys from the UK Sunday Sport … it would surely be a match made in heaven…

    pic

    • … seriously, imagine the stories they could come up with very little effort…

      pic

      • Liberated

        I’ve not heard of any new ladies in Tommy boy’s life, does that mean Davey’s slackin’ off on his pimpin’ duties?
        But, as we all know—“Pimpin’ ain’t easy”.

    • beauty for ashes

      That bra looks like its trying to escape off her body.

    • aegerprimo

      Disturbing.

  • ze moo

    The clampire is doubling down on its TV ads in Buffalo NY. My spies report that the ‘social betterment’ ad {the one with all numbers that do not reflect reality} was shown again on the 5 o’clock news. If they continue the whole week, that will be 3 weeks in a row and something of a new record. They stopped doing those ads last year after the Grammys. Are any other cities still getting those ads?

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I was watching something on my DVR that has been recorded in the middle of the night and there, for the first time on my TV was their ad, it was the other ad not the “social betterment” ad. First time I’ve ever seen one aired around here. Telling though that it aired at like 1:30 am. They certainly aren’t flooding this area with their ads.

      • Kestrel

        It’s still a stat.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Pretty much everything they do now is a stat. I hope 2016 brings more people out of that environment. The pressure they’re under must be incredibly intense the more Co$ collapses.

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)
    • Liberated

      How great would that be?

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        It would be so fantastic and thankfully Tony knows the subject well enough that in the short time they do their interviews he could get in enough info to have people asking questions, and we know the rabbit hole that leads to. ; ) Plus, more ‘Miss Lovely’ sales.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          After that extensive book tour, I think he could do it in his sleep! I retweeted.

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Exactly. He’d bring in a whole new wave of Bunkerites. Thanks for the RT love. ; )

        • Liberated

          Comedy Central did have the courage to show the South Park “In the closet ” episode, so perhaps they wouldn’t chicken out on doing the same thing on the Daily Show. Tony O. would blow everyone’s mind!

    • Frodis73

      John Oliver would be a great (maybe even better at this point) option too!!

    • Frodis73

      When I sign in I’m going to steal your tweet and send it to Oliver and Last Week Tonight. If that’s ok with you…

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Take it love. You can use any of my tweets, anytime. ; )

    • phoebequeen

      Well done.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Totally OT – I wanna do over now of all my travelling years – on one of these.

    https://youtu.be/0uiLmCjjmas

    • flyonthewall

      i want to see a gang of these guys fight a gang of segway guys.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Well, if it doesn’t carry my luggage around, then giant fighting robot would be cool.

          • flyonthewall

            the robot could carry your luggage! When he’s not fighting of course

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Copyright that idea right away and talk to the big boys – oh wait – I just saw a smart luggage cart – it follows you as long as you’re carrying your phone and have the luggage app on. No really! Naw, I like the riding one better – unless that robot also gives messages with the hot scented towels. Now That would be awesome.

            • flyonthewall

              idk, I get nervous talking to the big boys. What if they bully me?

            • beauty for ashes

              Just have some really big charts, a few hypnotism tricks, clear information, some subliminal messages, and free stuff.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Okay, how about the … yikes never mind!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Here’s your message, delivered on a hot, scented towel ma’am. Could we interest you in a massage while we’re here? 😉

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Yeah, that ruffin’ on the road shit is for the birds! You should so get one of these!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              TMI.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              preamp

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I know, just pullin’ yer chain.

          • Observer

            A giant fighting robot might keep OSA away

        • flyonthewall

          Oh yeah! I think this guy made a cameo in Transformers II

          • The original 80s Motocompo was a 50cc scooter that would fit in the trunk of Honda’s smallest car. It was for the “last mile” between the parking lot and the airport or work. It failed badly because they hadn’t solved the problem of what to do with a tiny scooter with a scotching hot exhaust and a tank of gasoline at the destination.

        • beauty for ashes

          I thought you said ” giant FISHING robot” which cracked me up 🙂

        • aegerprimo

          https://youtu.be/Llh6z_ghsmE
          Just sayin’…..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        No contest!

    • beauty for ashes

      I totally get this! Want one!

  • April Moonlight

    It’s too late for Desiree Silvani-Cardoso – her father died before she reconciled with him. Desiree has to live with the knowledge that it was her choice, that her Dad would have loved to visit with her some time in the 3 years before his death. But she wouldn’t talk to him. He can’t let you know he’s ok Desiree, he’s gone and it was NOT ok to ignore him while he was alive. He loved you. If any Scientologists who are still “in” are reading this – it’s not too late for you – please pick up the phone and call your Mother, Father, Brother, Sister, Aunt, Grandmother – someone, anyone in your family who you KNOW wants to talk to you and yet by your actions is disconnected from you. Do it before it’s too late. If you still are not sure you should, ask yourself, how is not talking to my family supposed to really help me? What kind of group discourages you from bonding with your family? That’s just plain wrong, and you know it.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      IN THE LIVING YEARS Mike and the Mechanics

      …..

      Say it loud, say it clear

      You can listen as well as you hear

      It’s too late when we die

      To admit we don’t see eye to eye

      I wasn’t there that morning

      When my Father passed away

      I didn’t get to tell him

      All the things I had to say

      I think I caught his spirit
      IN THE LIVING YEARS

      ……..

      Later that same year

      I’m sure I heard his echo

      In my baby’s new born tears

      I just wish I could have told him in the living years

      Say it loud, say it clear

      You can listen as well as you hear

      It’s too late when we die

      To admit we don’t see eye to eye

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGDA0Hecw1k

  • salin

    Recommend Reminder (click Recommend to ‘upvote’ today’s Installment of the UB.) When you click recommend (just under the comments count, and to the upper left of the dialogue box), the heat beats.

    Aurora Cam in Tromso, Norway shows some activity: http://virtualtromso.no/en/northern-lights/138-live-northern-lights-activity-and-forecast.html on a very, very active day.

    Not only were the Northern Lights active – so were the Southern Lights!

    Southern Lights in New Zealand: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=123352&PHPSESSID=0nlgftn4jbmsu70j3ana881266

    Northern Lights in Minnesota: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=123340&PHPSESSID=0nlgftn4jbmsu70j3ana881266

  • Doc M

    O/T

    Ok Boys and Girls, if you ant to feel old for a bit, watch this short video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kesMOzzNBiQ&index=104&list=PL23C220A2C5EC0FDE

  • beauty for ashes

    I am inordinately mad at Desiree. PHFFFFFFFT!!!!
    I know its okay to be mad, but if ever someone sounded brainwashed, man its HER! So while a part of me wants to punch her in the face, another part is clearly recognizing her need for help because her religion is making choices for her that her soul is clearly not okay with.

    • salin

      It helped reading Sunny’s response below – really brought out the compassion and sadness.

      We, thankfully, live outside that bubble. Our grief is wretched, hard. But it is real, not deluded.

      It reminds us to live life – and appreciate the moments with loved ones (and create additional time in our busy lives to spend with loved ones) – rather than assume the death while a big deal, is also not a big deal b/c now (after death) the job of the departed is to find a new body – and ‘if you can – send us a sign’… that last part is the teeny weeny space allowed for grief.

      This binded/blinded mindset disallows concern over the disconnection (“voluntary” according to Co$) that might lead to abandoning a family member – even in a time of mortal need – regret free (ala – suppress emotions.) Gives me a heavy heart.

      I like your insight, that perhaps her posting the delusion (with the comment ‘let us know you are okay’) indicates that maybe there are some niggling doubts. Something that her soul is not okay with. Maybe that will lead, eventually, to her liberation.

      To you, Beauty – <3<3<3

      • beauty for ashes

        I’ve had some pretty wretched days, especially after my car died. It kind of set me over the edge, just when I was trying to adjust to new and changing funeral timelines.
        Thank you for your response and for talking about your grief. I once wrote in a poem, “its like you’re holding my hand under the table.”
        I hope this doesn’t make you cry, but getting to know you, you are such a sweet caring gentle person. Your Mom must miss you so much too. <3<3<3 (((((((sweet salin)))))))))

        • salin

          The sentiment is reciprocal, beauty. (((((beautyforashes))))

  • LittleRedSongbird

    That FB post…….man that’s heart breaking

    • outraged

      So so depressing on so many levels. At first I wasn’t sure if she or he was the Scientologist. But when I read it again, omg, she dumped her dad. Clean sweep. And now she wishes him a good journey on Facebook? She wants him to find a Scientology family?? This girl is truly screwed. At the end, a little bit of her sadness comes thru, “please find me dad”. But it is waaaayyy too late. He is gone.

      Life is short Desiree. People die.
      Why spend your life withOUT the ones you love???? Who told you, who made you, who brainwashed you to leave a parent you loved??

      I am sure your dad died with a broken heart. Lovely church you have there Desiree.

      • LittleRedSongbird

        I agree! This whole religion was supposed to make your life better, right?

      • phoebequeen

        Oh, I didn’t understand it either. Oh, that is really sad.

  • Last time I checked, the world was not flooded by people who died and were reborn remembering who they were before, not in Scientology either or any other community. So may be it’s time to reevaluate the whole magical thinking thing, ditch the disconnection enforced invented by a dead man who didn’t come back either and stay in better touch with family and friends despite of some disagreements that can be solved through communication, just like Scientology says (and common sense before it). Anyone we know, including ourselves, can drop dead any time for any number of reasons and will only remain in memories, as far as we and science knows. So choose wisely before disconnecting. End of rant.

    • LittleRedSongbird

      Even if an afterlife were guaranteed I’d say that REALLY makes disconnection unnecessary. Short of abuse, there’s just no need for severing relationships with loved ones.

    • jazzlover

      Hypnosis makes it involuntary for those under the spell. There is absolutely no choice involved.

      • This is not just a hypnosis, imho. This mindset is a result of several factors.
        That’s why more people leave and less join.

        • jazzlover

          I’ve spent a year here hearing people attest to the negative effects of hypnosis on people taken into cults. I agree that there are other factors, but we can’t have our cake and eat it too depending on which way the wind blows. And we can’t deny the involuntary nature in all of this either. There’s somewhere in between, and I don’t think we can be compassionate on one hand and throw blame on the other based on whatever cult-based actions we happen to be talking about at any given time.

          • I don’t understand your post/point. Elaborate, please.

            • jazzlover

              My point is that this woman deserves as much compassion as any ex here. The blame, the finger-wagging, the disdain seem out of place to me, especially in light of the Jones’ situation. Not only that, but the posting of photos of the children grabbed from her Facebook account is not cool. Enough said. Let’s move on.

            • I see. Agreed. I talk about specific aspects that has nothing to do with photos or lack of compassion.

            • jazzlover

              I must have misread your initial post then. It seemed like you were ranting against this woman for disconnecting from her father. My mistake and I apologize, but my comment still stands regarding the general tenor of what’s been going on here today. Either, all disconnecting scientologists should be blamed or none of them should be blamed. There is no in between. Any never-in (such as myself) has to enter here with an uncompromising level of compassion and empathy, and that’s what I try to show in many different ways. As a result, I cannot find hypocrisy as anything other than intolerable.

            • Understood. I was addressing the underlying causes of her mindset and actions.

        • LittleRedSongbird

          Disconnection policies in cults have diminishing returns. It’s why Jehovah’s Witnesses are in decline. The more people you expel from the cult the more exit points you create, and the more outside pressure you attract. The JW’s are already at the point where a lot of them just flat out ignore disfellowship, and the church can’t say boo about it. I know plenty that read Harry Potter, sneak in birthday presents and barely resist Halloween. In a few more generations they are expected to be a dead religion. I hope it is with Scientology.

    • Rasha

      Damn right.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      OT almost – did u get my email?

  • LittleRedSongbird

    My dad is an Anglican priest. Here’s my thought on religion: if your religion requires that you break up your family, your religion is failing, not you or your loved ones. Religion is supposed to solidify communities and families. Scientology and other cults destabilize people. Finances are shaky, marriages are hard to maintain, families go kaput all the time. Are there ANY families in Scientology that haven’t been touched by disconnection?

    Desiree, that’s not how religion is supposed to work. If you really have these amazeballs OT superpowers, your bitchy stepmother couldn’t have done diddly squat to you.

    If you have other people from which you’ve disconnected, and I bet you do, CALL THEM. You can’t be harmed by them and you will be closer to having what religion is supposed to give you.

  • Also, speaking of past lives, many people “recalled” in sessions (with auditor’s and E-meter’s “help”) being Joe Blow or Mary Rose, you name it and bunch of other exciting details about their bank accounts and street names and everything else in between. Some even recalled being a past life Dianeticists/scientologists, myself included, on the E-Meter, floating needle and all, several times, several auditors, even when I and facts of life doubted it.

    So here’s the Central Files project of the future suggestion to RTC, except done on the PC folders:
    – Locate everyone who ever originated to live before, who provided their past identity’s names and other details,
    match it with the real records and announce it to the world. You will need a whole lot more Ideal Orgs than.

    It will never happen though, because Hubbard lied, you lie, scientologists lie to themselves and there is absolutely no evidence of returning scientologists. Ever. Remember Passports To Total Freedom? Yeah.

    • salin

      Flicking a virtual bic lighter. Encore!

    • Bernie

      LOL. I remember all these past life Clears being made, including myself.

      Ron has set it up so well. First of all your “reactive mind” is doing you in. Then “BT’s” are doing you in.

      It all keeps people looking inward and not outward.

      I love this quote:

      “If you want to know the past, to know what has caused you, look at yourself in the PRESENT, for that is the past’s effect.

      If you want to know your future, then look at yourself in the PRESENT, for that is the cause of the
      future.” – Majjhima Nikaya

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Desiree kinda sounds like a wife-beater. “Sure, I punched her in the gut for the last 3 years but she knew how I felt and knew that I really loved her.” SMH

  • Liberated

    Didn’t L Ron go searching for all the valuable loot he supposedly buried in previous life times? What ever became of that? Nothing, of course, and I’m sure he blamed everyone else. That’s probably when he created the cruel lower ethic conditions.

  • phoebequeen

    Maybe it’s just me, but that fb post is confusing as hell.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It hits our emotional part of the brain on all cylinders, but just as scientologists or anyone in a fanatical group avoids science like the plague, we have to avoid doing the same. Look to the science, read it and understand what is happening. That way we can help our own friends and family to avoid the pitfalls of such groups because they can recognize the signs when they come up across it – and avoid it so they don’t get sucked in.

      https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/ambigamy/201411/fanaticism-is-disease-alcoholism

      http://www.psychosynthesispaloalto.com/pdfs/Religious_Fan.pdf

      http://www.ecauldron.net/articles/archives/2006/05/entry_51.php

      • phoebequeen

        Thanks for the links. I have learned a lot reading here and earlier at the Village Voice for a couple of years. I lurked until last year. I had to read post twice then saw below someone else that had explained it. So sad. I always try to bring people that think ,”Well, all religions are odd .” I tell them the reasons why this cult is not the same and then direct them to this site!

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Is there anything ever posted by a clam that isn’t confusing as hell? Its par for the course.

      • phoebequeen

        It made me tilt my head to one side. Like my dog when I say,” Walkies!” My neck hurts now.

        • Frodis73

          Lol, great description. I love when pups do that. All dogs have at least one word they respond to like that.

          • phoebequeen

            Others are, squirrel, followed by a worried look and quickly running to window to look for offensive beast; bone; car ride, although this one isn’t as popular as it used to be once vet runs became more frequent because of anal glands. Yeppers.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          As long as your head tilt isn’t accompanied by the CO$ patented handing-over-the-wallet maneuver, you’ll be okay 🙂

          • phoebequeen

            LOL

        • beauty for ashes

          Jay Leno jokes that he came out of a stunt gone wrong completely unharmed when he was young, yet after 40 he is liable to hurt himself terribly just by turning his head on the couch.
          PS~ I am a total sucker when dogs tilt their head when you ask them a question. <3 <3

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Back in October Christopher King, grandson of BB King posted pics of himself getting some kind of award at FLAG (first pic).

    Now he bills himself as “Human Rights Activist Christopher King – The Grandson of the late Legendary B.B. King” and makes appearances shilling for the CO$ front Youth for Human Rights International.
    (refresh)

    PHOTO CAPTION – “Honored to receive my gift last night for my humanitarian efforts and philanthropy from #Unitedforhumanrights #youthforhumanrights in my efforts in The Gentlemen’s Course thank you” #churchofscientology #lronhubbard #freedomfighter #clearwater #florida #charitycoalition #scientology
    https://www.instagram.com/p/8TPZJJAbGB/?taken-by=kingthebrand
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BCf5mZ7AbHS/?taken-by=kingthebrand
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BCIlPizgbGW/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BCIYe59AbLX/
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BCf60dhgbJn/?taken-by=kingthebrand

    • phoebequeen

      Wrong on so many level! What are Human Rights Find Out? Are they fucking kidding me? I can’t form the words right now that are trying to come out of my mouth! I just hope BB King thought he was an idiot.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I was going to say that at least where BB King is at, he can’t be disconnected from but I wonder if a rich, bread-winner relative like him would be disconnected from. Hmm…
        Disconnection, now that sure is a reason to sing the blues.

        • phoebequeen

          Ha! I wonder that too. You don’t think he knew about his grandson do you? I don’t want to think about it.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Just a wild guess but they might have latched onto him after King died, looking for inheritance money.

            • phoebequeen

              Yikes.

    • Supper Powers

      Yeah. I have the privilege of being blocked for calling him out. It’s a shame.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I be that the Chilli Bean is hoping that King can’t rap, otherwise he’ll be out of business. And let’s face it, at this point CO$ gigs is all that Chilli’s got.

      • phoebequeen

        Hey, have you ever called any of the numbers we see when they post pics about upcoming events? Just wondering. I don’t want to be on their caller ID.

        • EmmaDaoust

          Phone booth. If you can find one. And be sure to wipe your prints off the coins before inserting them.

          • phoebequeen

            Seriously. I can’t even begin to think where the nearest phone booth is. Maybe burner phone. Just thinking out loud mind you.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            And make sure that you wear a fake mustache as a disguise.
            (refresh)

        • Supper Powers

          No. But I think we should do a party line call to them.

          • phoebequeen

            I like how you think.

    • beauty for ashes

      *sighs* Hey but WE have Jamie De Wolf!

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I’m worried about Lucille!

    • Robert Eckert

      Thanks, Legoland!

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    This is sort of OT but I have a question about what to say in a quick elevator speech in 10 seconds to someone who does not know how bad the cult is, to get their attention before I start droning on and on about abuses. Something along the lines of “It is a mashup between TammyFaye/Jim Bakker and North Korea.” Ideas?

    • Supper Powers

      Ooh. Elevator speech contest! I like.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        I know, right?

    • phoebequeen

      When you want to leave any other religion, they don’t hire private investigators to follow , harass you and your family and your friends. They don’t make you stop talking to your family , unless you are Amish, and they don’t ask you to pay money you don’t have to learn about the “religion.” They don’t force you into a prison like hole for looking at info on line . Start with that.

      • phoebequeen

        Oh, and they might send dildos to your place of work. Wait, maybe…you might want to start off with that . Get their attention. I like the cross between Tammy Faye and North Korea.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Tell them to watch the “2016 Emmy Winner Going Clear”.

    • “Internet cats brought Scientology down.”

      • phoebequeen

        Word.

        • Juicer77

          😉

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        shout out to Tony and the fringe people!

    • Liberated

      Maybe get their attention with a comment about signing “a billion year contract”. That should start the ball rolling.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        by children to boot.

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      ‘If it wasn’t for all the suicides and bankruptcies and broken apart families.. the Xenu part really would be funny and scientology just a joke..but tragically it is not. Its abuses need to be stopped’

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Before we get disconnected have you seen Alex Gibney’s ‘Going Clear’ on HBO?

    • TonyOrtega

      “If the mafia took over Area 51 and began using stealth technology to kidnap movie stars, wouldn’t you want to keep an eye on them?”

      • Welcome to The Bunker. Great theory.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        So there could be a whole room of kidnapped stars at Area 51 held captive by the Mafia? I’m imagining a room with Kirstie, Tom, Bodhi, and Jenna competing for attention.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          and a horse corral.

      • The teddy bears run this.
        ..

        • beauty for ashes

          Mine’s a proud SP. 🙂 f5

    • Juicer77

      Your money or your family.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    WOW! At the Denver Org, the action really picks up when Social Security checks roll in at the beginning of the month. Ugh!
    (refresh)

  • Vaquera

    O/T: In keeping with rodeo season…Vaquera at the Houston Fat Stock Show and Rodeo, 1966. f5
    (Note the Astrodome in the background)
    http://youtu.be/yBsETkLw8_k

    • Juicer77

      You cutie!! Can’t see but I’m sure you’re wearing some awesome boots. 🙂

      • Vaquera

        Always!

  • MostEthicalPimp

    I can just see how the church will spin this. “We are getting so many new members in the UK that the psychs have ban us from advertising. But we still need more money to…”

  • Fink Jonas

    24,000,000 Lies!

  • Fink Jonas

    “I want to utilize the theta of our church and this group to wish him well ” , obviously she doesn’t know the leader of her theta group say about his own father ”IF HE DIES HE DIES” ….poor thing obviously she loved him and was forced to disconnect from him, that only shows the power the cult has on its members.

  • looking at the photo at the top of today’s post, there’s grounds for another complaint, right there.

    The woman holding the baby has a stethoscope slung around her neck, suggesting she is medically qualified. If she is not, this is misleading, according to specific ASA rules. The CofS is required to hold information about this, so they can’t say they don’t know. What’s the betting the stethoscope is just a prop used in a photo session..?

    • Juicer77

      (f5)

  • aegerprimo

    Just sayin’
    ……………. (F5)

  • EmmaDaoust

    OT, but oh boy. “Polygamous U.S. towns discriminated against non-believers, jury finds”
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/03/07/polygamous-us-towns-discriminated-against-non-believers-jury-finds.html

  • OOkpik

    Putting Scientology in its proper perspective.

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      and it’s actually KSW to “…quit fast….”

    • Robert Eckert

      Object in rear view mirror is smaller than it appears.

  • Qbird

    Sign on! Doin’ the happy dance again.
    https://youtu.be/KF7gk10jgEw

  • richelieu jr

    @once born, Congratulations!– You are too modest, but it is to your credit. Nice job, at every step!

    You did some truly yeoman work, and I fear we all too often overlook all the complaints and work that went unnoticed before because the issues hadn’t yet reached ‘the tipping point’ and give all the credit to the last drop of water that makes the vase overflow (that’s our French version of the English ‘Last straw sending the camels to Brokeback Mountain (I may be paraphrasing a bit here**) phrase, FWIW)…

    “We stand on the shoulders of giants, yes (well, all of us; except for “Source”, of course!) but we also stand o yhe shoulders of all the little people who weren’t afraid, and didn’t buckle, and went ahead and filed and fought even if they lost, or it went unnoticed, and even though they felt alone and outgunned (and were)–

    I always try and encourage people to go ahead and file, because OK– maybe this won’t lead to ay change, but the next time the CoS (or the local bully, or rapist, or crooked cop, or Céline Dion fan yields to the urge to lie and steal, or intimidate, or rape – or cover up for rape to use their badge, or fly to Vegas and give a proven Canadian-their hard-earned dollars, and the victim complains, they may get a fairer hearing.

    I learned the hard way, I am afraid. For once, I will cut this short (it is only when i have not much to say (and am very tired that I get so free-wheelingly verbose (hey it just occurred to me– Hubbard must have FLIPPD his pink, sweaty wig when he saw that title! In a way, it is nearly a bit weird that Hubbard never went full-Manson on a some record at some point).

    WhenI lived inthe desert (Canyon Country, for those in the know,not too far from the justly famous, Gorn-infested ‘Vasquez Rocks, which i just saw in the Coen Bros latest opus..

    At ay rate,one night at rarou 2 am, I amn dsome frinds from CalArts xere driving to the Saugus Café tonhave some greasye ats and shoot the shit. ONly a cop started folowing us pretty closelt for a few miles; NO tete is NOTHING aobut until the café, so it was stressful, especiallya s we were getting high. Well, <iwasn't,because it ws Hash and ont pot, but I was high from pot a thze shchoola ndit was fgiven to me t hid eu de rt the seat, stuffe dina cike cann inside a bog with royenr trash inside a little luvh box in another bag under the seat.

    The driver wasnt high,but was long-haird musician fromt he East coast. I had short, blonde ahira n dbaseball cap, etc, andlooked like some republican lother's wet dreal ofa son-in-law. Still, I was netvous when, afer an Loooong driv inthe dar we werpulled over, mad eot exit the car and kneeluprightonthe sidewalk as thye searched the car, tellingus we coudl either confess now and they'd nlya rrest theperson who ahd the drugs, or rfuse and theu tkae the car, arrest everyone who wojld eed lawyers,ze tc.I kep asking what their probable cause was. ONeof the cops otld me "We don't hav anhhting agains tyou faggot suponthenhill (that wojld be CalArts , which they believed to be the source of fla drugs,homosexuality, abortion,lack of repsect ofr Dan Quayle and generalnefairousnessand evil inthe comunity, whereas the lne of drug-offeirng,eager to lose thier virginity young folks fromthe commnity was veyr mongone indeed (nthat i ever partook, mind you?).
    Whenhe said tha,t I said, "Obviously not.?' and he spun to spunto look at me.– "What'd you say, biyN"àndI said,n "Look, man–"

    Hnad sup behind my head,finger interlaced,a s we'd been ordered, and inthis painfulpoisiton for goin onhalf-an-hour now, I would ahve beenunbale t resist heven had I seenit coming and wanted to, but he took oneof those bog fat, mong flashlights the are certainly NOT overcompensating for anythingnand smashe dit into my sternum, knocking me backwards and pinningz to the grond onmy back wiht it, myvakc ad torso bent bakc over my own legs and trainers habbinginto my bak. The little half-cirlce moonimprtrn was ot remain on my chest for nearly TWO YEARS. I am so not kidding. no<, you woudl think that wojlsd hurt like hell and oy would probably be right,but I din't rrzlaly feel it, exept at first, bbecause simultaneously he had kneed me in the bals and was now kneelingont hem, griding thelm in with his knee,andhooldingme down with the flashlight which was big and blacka nd ot at all lie thnkid of penis he probably couldn't halp woryring aobuths wife prefering to his pathetic vienna so-ausage, and whichheahd to admit king of)exc)) HE WOJD ADMIT NOTHING! He wojld insteadn grind my uunk into the pavement? HE kleaned so clse to my face I actually thought he was going to kiss me (I was not alon intheis BTW. LM"DOn't call me (twist, grind) 'man', 'lean in porn stanch early touching my lips, twist, grind) "MAN";. The he got back up.and straightened himself up.
    At his point they ahd fouind allthe clean luadryt he driver's mother had done for homa nd were goingthorgh it piece by piece, sniffing his FG's undies (stealing,or at least pretending to) some and systematically brushing the offensive clean clothes off into a dirty puddle with a rainbow sheen of petrol and oil on the top. With each peice they asked if we wanted to talk or did everyone prefer to go to jail when only one of us had to. A that point, the pipe (which they described as 'this incontrovertable evidence of hideous narcotic paraphenalia' several times.) was found under MY SEAT;`They tried to get everyone to turn on me. The idea of what these two would be like on a ride to jail, or a few nights in thier custody as they worked out their personal issues on my body. No thanks.
    At any rate, they then pointed at the four others, "You, you, you and you,bac int he car. NOW! Don't look back" so they hopped up, sneaking glance sat me as they went.
    "You, who know so much about the law… Over there. Walk in front of me and don't stop until I tell you."

    **(I may be paraphrasing a bit here**, but I am relatively sure it falls in the long, venerable line of Jake Gyllenhal' introduces such-and-such an animal to sodomy, thus inventing 'Animal Husbandry' and explaining Justin Bieber.phrase, FWIW

  • allioops

    here is the latest from the “Story of the “wasband.” It applies to part of this thread I think. the OT8 “wasband.” (my ex) has been @ Flag for over 2 weeks, routing off of staff. They refused to let him come home for his mother’s (ot8 also) 86th B-day. He is still there; probably getting sec-checked for even wishing to leave staff. He refused to leave staff when I asked him to; & then he left me after 27 yrs of marriage because he was told to do so by the cult. Now it is almost ok…who knows if they will get him to remain? I found out that he gave $5000.00 to pay for rent & deposit on his “org’s” rental. The screwed the real estate agency out of their profit…There is much more crap. He told one of are kids that he is saving $ in Flag because he is staying in a room for $30 a week, instead of at the Fort Harrison Hotel. Meanwhile he is paying thousands for the auditing actions….You know he has overts for wanting to leave staff. His “lady friend” sold her house & gave the cult all of the $.
    Wow! I just realized why he shacked up with her. Aside from being a baby who never lived alone; by him living with her (& not me) the cult got all of her house $….She went to Flag for services to cure Diabetes & other stuff. She is still Diabetic! unbelievable liars

    • The long term consequences of untreated diabetes, if it’s the type which required you to inject, start with blindness, and get worse. Even the form which can be controlled with diet can turn nasty if your’e not careful (and anyone trusting Scientology to cure them is not likely to follow their doctor’s advice).

      Sound like a shocking mess for everybody – and just to accumulate money to no purpose.