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Scientology tried to suppress this video, and that’s why you’re seeing it here today

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[Chrissie and Shane Weightman]

Former Sea Org worker Chris Shelton has been a regular contributor here at the Bunker and he’s made a name for himself with his video interviews of fellow former church members. Often, he premieres those videos here. But recently, he posted a “bonus” interview series at his YouTube channel, and now it’s blown up into a bigger story.

Shelton interviewed Shane Weightman more than a year ago, but for several reasons the two of them decided to sit on it, waiting for the right time to make it public. Shane grew up in Scientology, met his wife Chrissie Weightman in England, and then the two of them became disillusioned and left the organization in 2010, announcing that they had left the church on Marty Rathbun’s blog. They now live in the Denver area, where Shelton also resides.

Shane tells us that their 2010 public coming out didn’t sit well with his parents, Martin and Christine Weightman, who are Scientology lifers and served stints in the Sea Org. Martin also is known for Scientology’s “European Office for Public Affairs and Human Rights,” opened in Belgium in 2003, where he was “human rights director,” and which was caught up in the lengthy fraud prosecution and now trial going on in Brussels. Martin is a defendant in the case. (Our man in Paris, Jonny Jacobsen, recently wrote about Martin’s testimony.)

Shane, like many who leave Scientology, faced the possibility that he would be “declared” a “suppressive person” and every member who wanted to stay in good standing would “disconnect” from him, even his own parents. But at first, he says, they didn’t do that. (Chrissie’s entire family is out and she’s in touch with all of them.)

Then, two years later, Shane’s parents disconnected. “They wanted to get back onlines,” Shane says, explaining that his parents, who lived in England, wanted to start taking courses again at the church there, and were given an ultimatum: Cut off ties with Shane and Chrissie, or you won’t be eligible for services. “My mom was the only one who called me. My dad just stopped talking to me. Mom said they were disconnecting, and it was on orders from OSA Int.” (The Office of Special Affairs is Scientology’s public relations and intelligence division.)

“Then I found out recently that my dad went to Flag,” Shane says, referring to Scientology’s “spiritual mecca” in Clearwater, Florida, which is the only place where Scientologists can go for some of the higher-level counseling, costing up to $1,000 an hour.

Shane was disappointed to hear that his father was going to Florida to begin “OT 7” — Operating Thetan Level Seven — the second-highest counseling level in Scientology and the highest that can be achieved at Flag. It can take years to complete OT 7, and it’s one of the most expensive levels, at about $50,000, plus fees for semiannual “sec checks” — interrogations — that members on OT 7 have to pass, and only in Clearwater, no matter where they live in the world.

Shane decided the time was right to release his video interview, and gave Chris the green light. Shelton put it on his YouTube channel, and has posted the first four parts.

 
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[Chris Shelton interviews Shane Weightman]

 
Shane then heard through a family member that the videos had turned things upside down at Flag, and that his father was being prevented from either starting or continuing OT 7. Shane admits it was the effect he was looking for.

People hoping to reunite with family members still inside Scientology agonize over whether to take a quiet or loud approach. Many keep quiet, hoping that eventually they’ll see their children or siblings or parents again, knowing that it can take years to happen. (On our book tour in Australia, we met an older couple who have been waiting 30 years to see their children again, so far to no avail.)

Others try to be as loud and disruptive as they can be, and we find that, at least in recent years, this seems to be having more success. If you can become enough of a nuisance to Scientology, you make it hard for your loved one inside to stay on the “Bridge,” or hold their Sea Org job. At least, that was the theory Shane was following.

Now, Shane has heard from a family member that his parents are trying to bargain with him (through intermediaries). They’ve let him know that if he can prevent the publication of the fifth and final segment of his interview with Chris Shelton, and turn over the rights to all five segments to the church, then his mother won’t have to disconnect from other members of the family and Martin can get back on OT 7.

And that’s why you’re going to see part five of the interview today, and here on the Underground Bunker.

“I love my parents, but I’m not going to let anyone tell me what I can and can’t say. I’m not going to let the church control me,” Shane tells us. “And if other family members are asked to disconnect from me, the church is going to be hearing even more from me.”

 

 
Chris Shelton sent us this synopsis of all five video segments…

Part 1: Shane talks about being born and raised in Scientology, growing up in a small apartment with his siblings while his parents worked at the Church of Scientology of Paris. We go over what it was like to go to Scientology-affiliated private schools, how Shane ended up at the Greenfields Academy in East Grinstead, England and how much Scientology was an influence in his early years.

Part 2: We continue to talk about Shane’s schooling in England, what it was like to be educated in a Scientology world and how he learned to deal with critical media and comments about Scientology. He talks about how he was interviewed countless times by Sea Org members and pressured to join but how he resisted and eventually joined staff at the “Ideal” Church of Scientology of London with the aim of training at Flag.

Part 3: Shane details going to Flag for training (including violating visa law to get into the country) and what it was like during his first trip there, how he was put on “work/study” since London was not paying for his training, and what sort of duties he was assigned. He talks about how even if work/study was paid for, all trainees were still required to sell Basics books every day and lots of other details of life at Flag. Finally, he talks about meeting Chrissie, his future wife, and how his doubts about Scientology started.

Part 4: Shane talks about how his doubts and questions about Scientology developed and how Scientology tried to deal with him using authoritarian tactics over and over again, including sending him back to Flag and how he was held under watch there for being a “security risk” and what that entailed.

Part 5: In this final video, Shane talks about getting back to England from Flag and how his parents and the Office of Special Affairs tried to separate him from his girlfriend, what ended up happening that almost had him convinced to stay in Scientology and how he finally broke away forever. We also talk about how his parents have now disconnected from him and what that has meant for his life now that he is no longer involved in Scientology at all.

 
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If Scientology were advertising HowdyCon 2016

Just for fun, we took a Scientology flier we posted yesterday and, with the magic help of Observer, turned it into a reminder that HowdyCon is just around the corner!

 
HowdyConPatronExcess

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Um, Narconon Mexico, this is not a good look.

 
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Youth for Human Rights pamphlets Colombia’s military. (Thanks, Legoland.)

 
YHRIColombia

 
San Francisco gets a new Clear! This planet will be cleared in no time.

 
ClearRobinSmith

 
Actual caption: “Here’s Colin Taufer (headmaster of Delphi Academy FL) with Deb Voss (one of his senior execs at Delphi FL) and Heather Tapia, Tampa Day’s Director of Registration. Colin helped get Deb Voss’s Clear packaged secured before LRH’s Birthday!!”

 
SciDelphi

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on February 23, 2016 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback and Kindle editions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

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Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Jimmy3

    And I really doubt that you exist, Jim and Betty Mertz.

  • Juicer77

    Amazint how Shane’s story ties in so directly with the Belgium case. I’ve been eagerly awaiting part 5. I wonder if, when the Co$ dlthrows these defendants under the bus, they will start to see a glimmer of the truth. The Co$ doesn’t care about anything or anyone except it’s profit margins. Great work, Shane! Keep agitating.
    PS The sugarplumfairy remembrance items for the HowdyCon gift bags are finished. Just have to ship them stateside. 😉

  • J. Swift

    Now, Shane has heard from a family member that his parents are trying to bargain with him (through intermediaries). They’ve let him know that if he can prevent the publication of the fifth and final segment of his interview with Chris Shelton, and turn over the rights to all five segments to the church, then his mother won’t have to disconnect from other members of the family and Martin can get back on OT 7.

    The Church of Scientology is violating Article 19 of the UN Declaration of Human Rights that it so likes to trumpet:

    Article 19: Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

    The Church of Scientology is violating Shane Weightman’s human rights by attempting to interfere with his freedom to “hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers”

    Scientology’s phony “United for Human Rights” uses human rights as a glib PR fundraising tool and nothing more. Scientology has no interest in human rights, this because Scientologists are Homo Novis and consider humans to be “homo saps” a degraded race.

    Hubbard from DMSMH:

    “Perhaps at some distant date only the unaberrated person will be granted civil rights under the law. Perhaps the goal will be reached at some future time when only the unaberrated person can attain to and
    benefit from citizenship. These are desirable goals and would produce a marked increase in the survival ability and happiness of man.”

    • Qbird

      Jonathan Swift, page number for this quote, if you please.

      • pluvo
        • Qbird

          Hi Rainbow… been there, bookmarked his website long ago, am frequent visitor.
          I want actual page number for actual written quote.
          In the meantime, my own copy of DMSMH is on the way.

          eta: got it (1987 edition, p.534)

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            Qbird, after reading your post, Danny Sherman found the quote in the 1987 edition on page 534.

        • Qbird

          perfect links Pluvo ~ ty

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        *Groan* even we in RTC don’t care to turn pages through that long and incomprehensible tome. Honest to Pete, Book One makes us dope off faster than Vistaril.

        • Qbird

          Well, Mr. OT8, I have noticed that this is THE BOOK for all Scn. Incorporated as well as Indy. I’ve been told that I quote out of context. I need to be able to quote in context and correctly.
          Oh, my head hurts already. Quick! Some Vista-real!

          I’ve read Dianetics along with the bunker years ago but I want the real deal in my hand to be able to quote accurately what it is Mr. Hubturd has written in book 1. Gotta have the truth in hand, you see… gotta see what is written & where exactly. I intend to use it well.

          You understand, I know you do, dear OT*. “long & incomprehensible – dopes one off” I consider this to be fair warning. Thank you Sir!

          I asked my brother to comb used bookstores in the mini-apple to find one for me… it took quite a while to find & then ended up costing a whole 50 cents. What a deal!

          On my way to clear for 4 bits, can you believe that?!!!
          Going to be happy happy, like this guy ~ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e7a1f34220f78c9b831964fb1f1f85ed437865cbd806eb144c13d47ec41b9cc.png

          wishing you well you RTC tunnel rat you. :)

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            There are no 50 cent Clears. And with the advent of COB’s Golden Age of Tech I and II, Book One has been relegated to becoming a mere curiosity the Founder’s bygone past along with Kool cigarettes and cravats.

            The real shit is GAT II.

    • pluvo

      The communication level of the Church of Scientology: Threat and blackmail!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Apologies if this has already been cross-posted from SPs.

    This photo was taken outside the Edinburgh Org. Anyone have a clue what a “prawne” is? F5/Refresh

    • Spackle Motion

      What is a Grupy? Do any of those words translate into squat cobbler?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Apparently “prawne” is the Polish word for “legal”. Ha.

        • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

          Here’s what Google Camera translate came up with, along with human input from me:

          PSYCHOLOGICAL framed NTEGRACYINE WORKSHOP GROUP SUPPORT OFFICIAL WELCOME

      • Robert Eckert

        “grupy” is just the borrowing of “group” with plural ending; “wsparcia” is “support” thus “support groups”

    • Kim O’Brien

      i remember when i was like 8 or something ..and the movie Star Wars opened up . There was a line that circled the theater , twice , ..and continued down the block . ‘

      That is a sad, empty sidewalk for a place that offers super powers and really good parking spaces for the rest of your life :)

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        And is that sign written in Polish? And placed on a Scottish pavement?

        • Kim O’Brien

          niche market …LOL

        • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonny Jacobsen

          Yep, Polish: see my reply above.

    • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

      According to my Google app, it translates to legal, as in how to stay in Edinburgh legally, or any other services a Polish citizen might need when staying in that bonnie land.

    • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonny Jacobsen

      My friend Google says it means “legal”. So the larger print reads: We offer services:
      Psychological
      Legal
      Integration workshops
      Support groups
      Service employee social nature…
      There’s quite a significant Polish community in Edinburgh now, to the extent that there are dedicated Polish grocery stores.

      It looks to me as if they have moved since I was last in Edinburgh: that doesn’t look like South Bridge. Can you give me this new address?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I’ve asked in SPs and tagged you, Jonny.

      • Baby

        Jonny Jonny
        He’s Our man
        If he can’t do it..
        Nobody Can..
        ****Cartwheels off the Court***

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        What’s interesting to me about the photo is that I remember someone saying a couple of years ago that the Edinburgh Org was struggling to rope in Scottish bodies and was staffed to a extent by Eastern Europeans.

        • Juicer77

          Wonder whatever happened to our Fearless Leader, the robust old gent with thick white hair? I kinda miss him. It’s been a long time.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        The photo is actually of the “Leith, Edinburgh” org, so still in the Edinburgh district but perhaps a smaller outpost?

        • http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/ Jonny Jacobsen

          Makes sense: there are a lot of Poles down that way and it’s cheaper than South Bridge. I’ll make inquiries as to whether they are still there, but perhaps the rent got too high for them.

    • Snippy_X

      I was thinking “Plate of Shrimp” but JJ’s Google agrees with my Google. the top is Polish. The bottom is slovak. something like:

      [Polish detected]
      oferuimy uslugi
      ———————-
      PSYCHOLOGICZNE
      PRAWNE
      WARSZTATY INTEGRACYJNE
      GRUPY WSPARCIA
      USLUGI PRACOWNIKA SOCIALNEGO
      URZEDOWE
      ———————-
      [Slovak detected]
      BENIFITY APLIKACIE
      NAUNA … [can’t read]
      INTEGRACIA ZAPRASZAMYL
      —————————————-
      becomes
      =========================
      we offer services
      ———————-
      PSYCHOLOGICAL
      LEGAL
      WORKSHOPS INTEGRATION
      SUPPORT GROUPS
      SERVICES EMPLOYEE social nature
      oFFICIAL
      ———————-
      BENEFITS Applications
      Saunas … [can’t read]
      integration ZAPRASZAMY

  • VickiStubing

    Obs–You are the bestness shooper EVAH!! I am so in love with you and your mad skills. MUAH!! <3

  • EmmaDaoust

    Maybe Narconon Mexico is just practicing patting COB on the head.

  • Sir Derf

    But but but… But Scientology has claimed in court under oath that they don’t commit “disconnection” against their customers, they have sworn under oath that tearing families apart is “voluntary.”

    Funny how none of these human rights criminals ever get fined or go to prison for their lying repeatedly under oath, isn’t it?

  • Observer

    FTR, Tony wrote the flyer; I just put it together. I was snickersnorting the whole time. Poor Jim and Betty Mertz!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Tony is v. v. funny!

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I didn’t notice the Patrón bottle until the second or third time I looked at it and I died laughing. 😀

      • Observer

        Tony’s idea. I thought it was rather briliant

    • Newiga

      Love it! Wish I could be there!

    • Juicer77

      Good work all around!

  • outraged

    And the Oscar goes to Shane Weightman for having the courage and the love and the foresight to make the videos with Chris and promote them for all and sundry to see.

    In the ‘real’ world, love is not negotiated away. YOu do not need a course to tell you how to live life in misery and loneliness. And David Miscavige does NOT tell you who you can be friends with, who you can go out with, who you can love.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • mon elle

      Another common salute during WW2 Was “Heil Hitler”.

      It is impossible to count how many billion times the Germans said ‘Heil Hitler’ during the Third Reich. To greet with ‘Heil Hit­ler’ was required by a strict law, and people were put into concen­tration camps because they refused. But only a few non-Germans realize that ‘Heil’ is the German word for ‘salvation’, which is ex­tensively used in the German Bible translations. ‘Salvation Hit­ler’ or ‘Salvation by Hitler’ was the daily message every German, including nearly all Christians, preached to his neighbor daily. Although some tried to explain ‘Heil Hitler’ as wishing salvation for Hitler, the official meaning was clear: Hitler is the salvation for Germany and for the world.

      It is apparent that Mexico is failing to demonstrate proper command intention alignment by refraining to use the appropriate “Heil COB” salute. Of course there will be victory (sieg heil) but they need to acknowledge the source of that victory. The never ending work of COB. Running a paramilitary, dictatorship is hard work; particularly when surrounded by CICS intent on making things not go right.

      • MM

        1) “Another common salute during WW2 Was “Heil Hitler”.”
        2) “But only a few non-Germans realize that ‘Heil’ is the German word for ‘salvation’ […] Although some tried to explain ‘Heil Hitler’ as wishing salvation for Hitler, the official meaning was clear: Hitler is the salvation for Germany and for the world.”

        Actually, that’s two different kinds of Heil, with two different meanings.

        The ‘salvation’ kind of Heil is an outdated / archaic way of saying Erlösung (meaning “salvation; redemption; deliverance”). This is the term you would find in a Bible.

        The ‘Heil Hitler’ kind of Heil is a translation of the Latin word Ave (as in, “Ave, Caesar”), meaning “to hail” (to greet; give salutation to; salute). To be precise, it’s the singular imperative form, meaning “I salute you”.

        Fun fact: Narconon and German Nazis were not the only ones to ever display a variation of the Roman salute:

        Now up there is the flag; I come to salute; as I say ‘I pledge allegiance to my flag,’ I stretch out my right hand and keep it raised while I say the stirring words that follow.

        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Students_pledging_allegiance_to_the_American_flag_with_the_Bellamy_salute.jpg

        • gtsix

          Now now, when we yanks did it, it was NOT a nazi salute. And when they appropriated the salute, we stopped using it.

        • daytoncapri

          Good to put that out there – Per wiki…”The Bellamy salute is the salute described by Francis Bellamy, Christian socialist minister and author, to accompany the American Pledge of Allegiance, which he had authored.”

      • richelieu jr

        To be fair, ‘salut’ (‘salvation’) is also what we say in French for ‘Hi’.

        Careful with these translations: This is how you get AssHats in America claiming Hitler was left-wing because the Nazis were the “National Socialist Party”, forgetting that ‘socialism means somdething different here.

        BTW: Did you know that ‘Liberal’ in Europe means ‘right wing? Thatcher and Reagan,a nd W Bush were ‘liberals’!

    • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy
      • richelieu jr

        I feel obliged t point out that this is also the defense of Marty on down in the expat community (Chris S especially sings this song, re:Marty)

        I find it hard to swallow that >Scientology is 19,999 eager do-gooders, and 1 David Miscavige.

        • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy

          Yeah I think the point is that just because you’re following orders doesn’t absolve you of responsibility.

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  • flyonthewall

    Do you think the Colombian police ever get sick of posing with stupid pamphlets? It seems like they do that a lot. Don’t they have leftist guerrillas and narcos and narco-leftist guerrillas to go after? Those drug running commies aren’t going to bust themselves. Stop goofin around with Scientology and go get ’em boys!

    • Draco

      Didn’t you hear? There is no more crime in Colombia! The Way to Happiness sorted all that out!!!!!
      No crime, no drugs and no human rights abuses. THAT’S why the cops can sit around all day reading badly translated pamphlets. All sorted. Now all they have to do is figure out what to do once the cop force gets disbanded. Because … no crime … you know?

      • flyonthewall

        No crime? Then who are these guys who tied me to a tree in the jungle? I keep trying to tell them my father is not a rich industrialist and I don’t even know what a bougeeoisi..whatever means. I just wanna be an internet smartmouth and play Lego! Lemme go guys!

        • Draco

          Aw … they just wanna play with you, Fly. While there is no longer any crime in Colombia, there is a huge shortage of Legos. They heard about you on the interwebz.

    • Jimmy3

      You know they’re all just trying to get with that girl.

      folletos ? amo folletos ! eh la muchacha, me deja un poco de ese folleto !

      • flyonthewall

        If they want to be her lover, they’ll have to get with her cult.

        Make it last forever cuz brainwashing never ends

        *humming*

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Sweet Xenu in the manger, but today’s video, combined with
    the neo-Nazi Narconon nincompoops, has really got me pissed off.

    What a steaming heap of manure the entire scam is!

    DM’s applebox is the perfect metaphor for $cientology.
    Empty of food, devoid of any real nourishment, indeed simply empty,
    it is a device to make the tiny and insignificant seem bigger, a stature grab.
    It is a launch pad for the dishonest and criminal.

    Once on it, Dave grabs a rhetorical Roman Candle in each claw and then
    you can’t see him for malaprops and catachrestic sparks.
    Lie follows lie, bullshit mounded upon gross exaggeration, fabrications spewing
    forth like Vesuvius upon Pompeii, heaping up like a gigantic cirro-cumulus bank
    of towering mediocrity and mendacity.

    Not a dry blind eye in the tent.
    Up on their hind legs for the 27th standing ovation, singing
    “Crock my soul in the bosom of a braying man”

    Here, the world is still a wonderful place.

    • Supper Powers

      I saw an Indigo bunting today. That was nice.

      • daytoncapri

        We’ve had a red-breasted nuthatch at our feeder. So weirdly unafraid of humans. One of them saw me, landed on the tray feeder, waiting for me to was pour seed for him. Impossible to not smile.

        “This bird almost appears to be tame probably due to the lack of human encounters in their remote nesting territories. Don’t be surprised if this little bundle of energy doesn’t land on your feeder to collect a seed while you’re attempting to fill it. They show very little fear of us. One pleasant December day I had the doors to our north Lincoln location open and a Red-breasted Nuthatch would fly in, take sunflower seeds from a display, and go outback to the deck where he wedged them into a crack and hammered them open. The half dozen customers in the store really enjoyed his antics, but it did not seem to matter to him one bit. We had one report where as a woman was on her way to fill her feeders, a Red-breasted Nuthatch lit on her eyeglasses to ride out to the feeders with her.”

        http://www.wildbirdhabitatstore.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=72:red-breasted-nuthatch&catid=2&Itemid=195

  • Draco

    The video today is one of Chris Shelton’s best, I think.

    Thank you Chris, for putting all this out there. You could have just left and gone on with your life; but you didn’t.
    Instead, you are doing one hell of a job making CoB’s job of scamming his flock even harder. I hope a lot of lurkers and UTR folks see this series of interviews, and have their eyes opened just a wee bit for starters. The rest will follow.

    • aquaclara

      ^^^^^^. What you said, Draco.

  • nottrue

    Mr Shelton is doing great great work.

    • Supper Powers

      That’s love and loyalty, baby. Good for her for going after Flag.

  • flyonthewall

    I wonder if it was part4 that really put OSA over the edge? I don’t know how I missed it but omg it is freakin crazy. The series was good but the cray-cray really doesn’t happen until part4 and you be like, “Whaaaattt!?? Oh no they di’nt! ” Seriously though, they really put Shane through the ringer and it is fuct up

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgHcwlJCLi8

    • Draco

      Nuts huh? I mean, how hard is it to put a guy on a plane to the UK? Especially as he WANTED to go! Scientologists are so paranoid, they have to make a meal out of everything.

      • flyonthewall

        Ikr! Maybe they thought he would run to Rinder in Tampa instead of going home? Or they were just wanting to scare him into compliance? Idk but even after getting there they were still up his ass hunting for him in the hotels! Freakin psychos.

        • Chrissie

          flyonthewall… you nailed it! Yes they were afraid of Rinder showing up to take Shane off the base. I was in tough with Rinder. They were also afraid Shane would hop on a plane to California to see me instead of going back to his OSA parents in the UK, who were supposed to handle him.

          • flyonthewall

            I get lucky now and again :) Wow, so cool to hear from you Chrissie! I’m so glad you and Shane are together and happy. His story is amazing, I was REALLY into it. Take care!

          • pluvo

            They were acting like police who are deporting a person who was illegal in the country or has done something against the law. What they are doing could fall under the category of unauthorized assumption of authority or taking on jurisdiction of the government.
            But when questioned, of course, they will assert that they only accompany the person to the air port because they are so nice and helpful.

      • richelieu jr

        To be fair, if you have ever tried to get out when there is trouble: Snowstorm, clouds, terror alert, whatever, is a nightmare.

        One time it took me 43 hours and 7 attempts to land in Atlanta just because of clouds that kept coming in and covering the airport,t hen leaving, We’d circle until fuel was low, then fly to Houston, then back, then Mobile, and back, finally spending a 6 hour (!) night in New Orleans…

        And that doesn’t even coutnthe lottery, then sort of auction to even get a seat!

    • Newiga

      I know! Scientology truly is worse and more insane than you think! Every single part got me glued to my laptop. Especially parts 4 and 5. Thank you, Shane and Chris! All in all, this was a great look into being born into Scientology, waking up and then literally escaping out. All the best to Shane and family.

      PS. Lurkers, I hope you are listening.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I was on the edge of my seat for that episode! Damn. And of course, they had his passport…You’d think that would set off alarm bells at some level of law enforcement.

      • flyonthewall

        Well it would of but he lied to the cops when they pulled him off the plane so that he could get the hell out of there

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          True.

      • skiesareblue

        A real nail biter…..reminded me of the Headley’s escape. Unbelievable. Movie material.

        • flyonthewall

          I just said the same thing (movie material) about Shane’s epiphany he talked about in part5 approx 19:50 mark! :)

          • skiesareblue

            I haven’t gotten to that one yet! So many videos coming now, it’s hard to keep up!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      GET IN THE CAB, SHANE! GET IN THE CAB!

      • flyonthewall

        Right. Listening to that felt like watching that scene in a horror movie where the bimbo goes up the stairs to her certain death

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I always scream at them. And in high heels no less.

          • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

            Screaming in high heels again? What have I told you about that?

          • flyonthewall

            Oh god, Sorry if this is racist but watching a horror movie like that in a predominantly black movie theater during a cheap show (eta- or a raucous Fri/Sat night crowd is good too) is the best experience ever. People shout at the characters, “You gon die bitch!” etc. It’s freakin hilarious.

            eta – maybe that’s terrible of me but I been to many and it’s a totally different experience than going to the same movie in the white suburbs. *shrug* It’s a different culture, is that racist?

  • Draco

    Night folks – this continuing heat wave has worn me out – need sleep. xxx

    • flyonthewall

      I shall fan you while you sleep

      • Draco

        Thank you, Fly. :)

      • Supper Powers

        You are creepy in the most delightful way. 😉

        • flyonthewall

          i’ll own it :)

          • Supper Powers

            You are really just delightful, dear Fly.

      • mon elle

        What you call fanning the rest of the universe calls farting.

        Please stop or at least engage an odor neutralizer.

        ML, ME

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ6Yf_V_iD0

    • Newiga

      Night, Draco! Catch you later!

    • Rasha

      Dragon Dreams!!!!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Sleep tight, kiddo!

    • Madison KinSmed

      No a/c? Fill a big bowl with ice water & put it in front of a fan. Fans cool by moving air across your body so it’ll work better if you’re fairly underdressed. Sweet sleep.

      • Draco

        Fans going 24/7 here. It has now dropped to 24C which feels positively chilly to me after months of heat!

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush
    • Madison KinSmed

      Cats are such jerks! Lol!

      • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy

        But we love them, perhaps, because we’ve been infected with brain parasites.
        “Toxoplasma gondii tops the list as the most famous — and most controversial — neurological parasite. This tiny protozoan doesn’t look like much more than a blob, but once it makes its way to the brain, it can radically alter the behavior of hosts like rats, cats and, yes, even humans.
        http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/crux/2015/10/29/parasite-human-brain-control/#.Vsy3jvkrLIU

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Heh heh…The bf and I now blame all of our silly behavior on our chronic toxoplasmosis.

          • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy

            We are controlled by unseen forces.
            They still lock up people for such ideas.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              At least these forces you can see under a microscope.

            • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy

              Indeed.
              Along with a lot of other lab equipment I don’t have.

        • Harmless Weirdo

          What’s interesting about toxo in humans is that it differentially affects men and women. To oversimplify it, toxo-infected men are more withdrawn and taciturn, and less inclined to maintain appearances. But toxo-infected women tend to more sociable, people-pleasing, and likely to conform to social expectations.

          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2526142/#!po=1.35135

          Given that, I think it safe to say that I’m not toxo-infected, despite having 11 cats of my own and playing hostess to a steady stream of fosters.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist
        • Madison KinSmed

          Yes, we do love them! Oh, & thanks for completely freaking me out. Now I have another dread disease that I may have passed on to my offspring to worry about…😉

          • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy

            Hey, not to worry. Its just a brain parasite for which there is no remedy, and may control your behavior, and that of whole countries.
            Interesting too, that the flu virus may also cause us to be more social, in order to propagate itself.
            And whatever you do, don’t research the reversal of the earth’s magnetic field. You have enough to worry about.

      • Qbird

        and then there are dogs ~

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I’m glad IW posted that insta pic of Penny Atwell Jones and her OT8 cert. I kept meaning to share it here but kept forgetting. She looks absolutely awful, doesn’t she? Just spent, wiped out.

      Another fun tidbit from Penny’s IG account: she attended a Trump rally recently. I guess a good OT scilon will always be attracted to the fascists.

    • oknow

      This is hysterical!

  • Missionary Kid

    This is OT, but it deals with the whole problem of drug rehab centers. It’s interesting, to say the least.
    http://theinfluence.org/the-rehab-industry-badly-needs-to-clean-up-its-act-heres-how/

    • Juicer77

      Interesting read. Thanks for sharing.

      • Missionary Kid

        Years ago, I worked in alcoholism, and a lot of lousy rehabs opened up because the insurance companies started paying for rehab,and they didn’t know what they were doing. The alcoholism communities called them “spin dry” operations, because they really did so little. NarCONon doesn’t even do that. It’s just a money vacuum.

        • Juicer77

          It seems that rehab practices, much like mental health treatment not so long ago, are just starting to be scrutinized for efficacy and woo detection. There’s a long way to go.

          • Missionary Kid

            Agreed, completely.

  • Madison KinSmed

    Want to help scientologists escape? Are you ready to make some noise? Well, there is a way.

    It’s using Twitter, which I can teach you, and you can do it anonymously (for a bit longer, you can still use made up names).

    Step 1 Write a tweet of 140 characters or less. Use #scientology to reach even more people (that’ll count in your character count)

    Step 2 Find scientologists with Twitter accounts
    Each Scientology Twitter account has a bunch of followers. Lots are fakes and many are fellow anti-scientologists (!) but you can separate out the real ones. It takes a bit of time because you have to actually scroll through the suspected scientologists tweets to find mentions of Scientology stuff. Once you’ve identified someone as a scientologist, execute step 3

    Step 3 Tweet your Twitter message to your identified scientologists. If your tweet is brief, you can tweet to more than one person at a time, which may get them talking to each other. @s count in your character count so that’s another reason to keep your tweet message short.

    You’re done.

    If you want to do this, let me know by responding to a previous comment. This is not any kind of violation of Twitter’s TOS. It’s a typical early stages new product Twitter campaign. A product can be a good or a service. This is a service.

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      methinks—and i know nuttin’ ’bout twitter 😉 –that contacting private scientologists and directly tweeting to them, does in some way violate the twitter TOS and if you did it to a # of them, they could successfully report you enough times to get you put in ‘time out’…..tweeting scientology accounts, scieno celebs, and even replying to other ‘private’ scienos who have tweeted about scientology would fall under ‘okay’ but going thru the scieno twitter followers to tweet to them directly could to a bad time……

      if you’ve done this before, just please be cautious…..i think ‘service’ in this situation is a very grey area when contacting private scieno twits…..that’s just my 2 cents and again, i know nothing about twitter! 😀

      • Gnocchi

        This is irrelevant because you can make different accounts. There are tons of spam accounts out there (I get spammed regularly, everyone does) that survive blocking and reporting long enough to send lots of tweets. Then just make a new account.

        • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

          Well if you make a sock account, then sure go ahead. I wanted to let people know though about possible issues as most people don’t make sock twitter accounts and would just use their own. I admit it’s rare for me to get spammed on twitter and when I do, I report ’em, cuz fuck that.

          • Gnocchi

            It never crossed my mind that someone would use their own main account for this purpose- that seems like an obviously bad idea. Also, seeking out people to talk to them is the entire point of Twitter, so this wouldn’t be violating terms of service. You’d probably just get blocked/reported for your entheta!

            • mon elle

              Why?

              She’s got greata entheta!

              😉

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              I use my main account. ; )

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              that’s obviously a bad idea 😉 crow related….dunno what in the world they’re doing….about a dozen in the clock out tree, a couple over in the tree on york, one other in the tree on dayton place….3:30 is too early to clock out; but it appears the crow traffic controllers are sounding the “clock out, come on come on” cry as they fly towards chapel hill and back…..yes, i sit here and watch crows…..

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Meh, other than the Co$ trolls I’ve been blocked by most of them. I’ve been blocked by members I never said a word to. LOL I’ve never gone after anyone on Twitter so there’s not much they can do.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              EXACTLY!! I know a lot of us were mass blocked by scieno celebs—some whom we never tweeted.

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              It’s a shame. They’ve missed some damn fine haiku. 😀

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              I don’t know haiku
              What are you talking about?
              Sounds interesting

              😀

            • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

              Behbeh crow!

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              SO CUTE!!!!!! I have been amusing myself the past few days jotting down plot lines for a badly drawn ‘North Hill Crow Crew’ comic. I sat and watched the Chapel Hill Gull Gang when I went to the grocery store and how they interacted with the Crow Crew—one of whom I think recognized me, cuz a crow kept sort of buzzing my van. I finally yelled out “DUDE! I see ya!” Then they left.

            • http://www.allmestup.blogspot.com Artoo45

              Look for The Magpie Whisperer and her videos on Facebook and see what the Crow’s Corvid cousins get up to down under.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              i’ll see if they’re on youtube, i don’t have FB anymore….thanks!!

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              Huh, I’ve been on twitter for I can’t recall how many years, and I’ve never sought peoples out. I don’t believe that IS the “entire point of Twitter”. I tweet from my own account, I don’t do anything that would get me in time out.

            • Gnocchi

              Twitter is built for interaction with people you don’t already know. I have a huge friend group on there and we make new friends and add new people all the time. I think that is Twitter’s most unique feature that makes it stand out from other social media platforms.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              I thought that was facebook? o_O Twitter is unique cuz it’s 140 characters. I never thought it was a place to ‘make friends’. To each their own.

      • Madison KinSmed

        I’ve read the TOS and the Rules. IANAL, but there is nothing that clearly states this is not allowed. It’s not harrassment, abusive, or commercial. I’m not suggesting that we “spam” a bunch of followers of Scientology accounts but maybe it depends on the definition of “spam” Twitter’s current definition does not fit what I’m proposing.

        Maybe I’ll wait a week or so and see what happens with who I’ve already tweeted. So far, I’ve had no response.

        • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

          ‘harassment’ would be the hang up methinks—and someone could claim it’s harassing them…..i know your intentions are good and you mean well!!!

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      I’ve also heard nothing about twitter requiring ‘real’ names. Considering the millions of accounts they have with non-real names they’d have a hell of a time enforcing that. Oooo crow confab….gotta go

    • mon elle

      If you’re talking about targeting individuals who have done nothing more than say “Hey I like LRH”, I’ll pass. Trolling aggressive bullies and idiots is one thing, trolling the unwary is not my cup of tea.

      If, however, you mean front groups with Twitter handles like @CCHR4Sanity … that’s a bit different.

      Don’t become evil or do evil to destroy evil.

      • Madison KinSmed

        I guess maybe there’s a fine line between what I was suggesting and “trolling”. I do not want to do anything evil so probably I should just drop this.

    • Madison KinSmed

      Forget this suggestion. I’ve been persuaded that it might be construed as trolling and evil. I just wanted to help.

      • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

        We know you want to help!!

  • richelieu jr

    Damn, I wish my English was as good as Shane’s!

    I’ve been listening to the whole thing, and really, really enjoying it. His story si very moving and gripping,and I imagine even more so for others who have lived similar stories…

    Amazing that after all they put him through, they still expect Shane to trust them in some sort of ‘bargain’.

    Amazing. NOT Surprising in the least.

  • https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shorpy_Higginbotham Shorpy

    Despite the Battle Creek (Michigan) Org’s super powers, there remains mass murder insanity in its “sector” (thank you Tom Cruise).
    How can that be?
    Most of these victims were from Battle Creek.
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/friends-colleagues-remember-slain-kalamazoo-area-37127976
    (Street action photo 10/3/13 courtesy of some person who wishes to remain anonymous.The history of protests against Scientology in Battle Creek should not be forgotten.)

  • Juicer77

    (f5) I’m sick yet again… beginning to suspect germ warfare. Not sure if this will make sense what with all the ‘Quils I’ve been swilling, but here goes…

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Is your SP’ness making you a prime target for germs? Hope you’re wrapped up in a warm blanket, with Mr. Juicer bringing lots of warm drinks to you :-)

      Get well soon, luv!

      • Juicer77

        Thanks, hon. Mr. J and the furryJ’s are taking good care of me.
        You are always my favorite pink unicorn. *takes another swig of cold medicine*

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Lol XD

    • aegerprimo
      • Juicer77

        I was just looking at your collection and snortling. :)

    • Supper Powers

      Sorry to hear. Hope you have some good whiskey nearby. Feel better, dear.

    • mon elle

      I hear ya …

      Try two shots of my secret/favorite NyQuil chaser … moonshine.

      It may not cure what ails ya but you won’t mind.

      Hope you feel better.

      • Juicer77

        As Dave Barry said, “For colds, I drink beer. I haven’t had one cold I clearly remember.”

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      is 1/2 your face swollen? i’m gonna attribute my parotitis to a ‘bunker bug’ 😀 though it’s not just one, it was all 3 but after a week of antibiotics it’s just one left swollen, though my face is still 1/2 swollen…..good times…..one more week of antibiotics…..

      get better STAT!!!! let’s open the windows in here, get some fresh air, scrub everything down with lysol….. 😀

      • mon elle

        As you request …

        1). Cleanup
        2). Open windows

      • Juicer77

        No, thank goodness, that sounds awfully painful! Miserable chesty cough. All my body wants right now is sleep, and more sleep. Hoping to be on the upswing tomorrow.

        Feel better!

        • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

          Pain left after the 3rd day of antibiotics, just persistent 1/2 face swelling that SEEMS to be slowly decreasing…..i’ve been drinking so much lemonade (helps in this case) i think my blood is 1/2 lemonade now…..i think i’d rather have a cough though—with popping rib risks cuz this is annoying!

          do what your body wants you too!! SLEEP!!! REST!!!! You know we’ll be here still! :)

          • Juicer77

            No rib popping for you! Did you see the mumps episode of Brooklyn 99? Howlingly funny if you don’t have a swollen face. Maybe later.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              I’ve never even HEARD of Brooklyn 99!! Just 1/2 swollen 😀 Edward even noticed it!! Aw, rib popping is an amazing trick I can do! 😉

            • Juicer77

              Ensemble comedy on Fox. Andy Samberg and Andre Braugher doing comedy. It’s gold, gold I tell ya!

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              What are you doing watching American TV – you are in the country that has the greatest comedy in the world!

            • Juicer77

              Slingbox, baby! We got all the tricks so I can watch both 😉

      • Kay

        I know this may be a stupid question, but have you had the mumps as a child or the mumps vaccine? Sometimes even if people have had one or the other, for health reasons they lose immunity to the mumps or other diseases. I had my standard “titer” against all major diseases run for my job two years ago and was shocked that I had lost immunity to mumps altogether, and barely had immunity to chicken pox. Of course a vaccine fixed that problem, but still it was freaky. So if your face really IS swollen like that, and you had to be on long term steroid therapy or other biological agents that suppress the immune system, it might be a good idea to have someone draw a mumps titer just to make sure. Probably the health dept. would do it for free.

        • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

          well the dr.—i didn’t see my regular dr. as i got in last monday and my reg. dr. isn’t in on mondays and i wanted to beat the snow AND get whatever dealt with STAT…but he didn’t mention mumps at all—-though of course he called it parotitis and my print out says that’s my DX and if you google that it basically says it’s mumps……so ???? i know if my face is still sort of swollen friday i’m gonna call and get an appointment with my regular dr. for next tuesday—if all else fails, just as a follow up…..i THOUGHT it was a blocked saliva gland……but all 3 on my right side were swollen and painful…..then just 2, now just one—no pain anymore as that stopped 3 days after i started the antibiotic……but even non-jawline is swollen—like under my eye….it’s sort of bizarrely interesting……if it’s still swollen i’ll ask my reg. dr. to see if she can do blood work to determine DAFUQ?!

          i wonder if i got something from my new neighbor’s visiting mom who was here from a south american country (i know which one i don’t wish to publicly name it)…..i got sick 3-4 days after i spent time with her……i haven’t had anything like THIS before and i get weird shit—popped out ribs, etc……but 1/2 my face swollen? parotitis? possibly mumps? that’s even sort of weird for me!! i DO get steroid shots regularly for my allergies and asthma, so i do have a suppressed immune system—hence me wearing non-latex gloves and a mask in grocery stores during winter flu season!

          i did read somewhere once that apparently kids for like a 10+ year
          period got less MMR vaccine doses than they give now……and i left a
          job at akron general cuz they wanted me to redo my MMR vaccine cuz of
          that—never mind i wasn’t anywhere NEAR patients…..fuck that…..”you
          have to do it, it’s done free of charge” “nope, don’t have too” “you
          have to to keep your job, just go to room ###” “uh no, i’ll go get my
          things, fuck that”…..that was in the ’90s…..i obviously won’t redo my MMR vaccine 😀 i have gotten tetanus shots though!! (and lest anyone think so, i do not think vaccines cause autism)….but i’ll be damned i redo vaccines i had!

          • phoebequeen

            Crikey. You have been through the ringer. Very strange that you got sick after neighbors mom came by. Maybe you should be tested for zika virus. It wouldn’t be unheard of from what they are saying. I am sorry . Sucks to be sick for so long. I had to stop getting vaccines, like tetanus because of severe reactions to it. I was RN in past too. Developed fibromyalgia after a bout of flu. I can even get flu shot as I do get really sick. I try to stay away from crowds this time of year and wash my damn hands when I get home. I hope you start feeling better soon.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              I actually don’t FEEL that bad (knock on wood! :) as the pain has gone away, just not a lot of the swelling and i’ve been on the antibiotics since last Monday—have 14 days worth. I wash my hands obsessively this time of year—I call it Lady MacBeth season; BUT I know the evening I met her mom I went back outside and continued taking photos—-it was snowing outside and pretty. So I didn’t wash my hands STAT. I thought nothing of that until the right side of face hurt and got swollen 3-4 days later and was trying to figure out DAFUQ?! I forgot to mention it to the dr. I saw. I think I’ll call the ‘phone service’—for some bizarre reason the doctor’s office transferred their calls to a service when you call for an appointment and they are rude ass peeps, which I uh, probably told ’em last week 😀 —tomorrow to schedule a follow up with her. It’d be GREAT if I could call my doctor’s office and speak to someone there!!! Some big wig decided that was too logical? Too patient friendly? Who knows, it’s annoying!

              I don’t think it’s Zika—I actually, I admit, looked that up. It does seem like it could have been mumps BUT I looked up the WHO maps of mumps outbreaks in the countries she was in—-where she is from and where she just was visiting and saw no outbreaks. Could she perhaps carry the virus? I dunno. Could she have been exposed to it, been immune and then passed it on? That’s possible. She did a lot of South American travel and some island traveling too.

            • phoebequeen

              Ok, my son’s doctors office went to the call service for all calls. No more calling in straight to office. Sucks big time. They are right near us too, and I was tempted to get in car and drive to them when he was home on Christmas break. No idea why they think it’s productive to do this.
              As far as zika, they are still finding out weird connections on how people get it. Might be good idea to tell them details. Because of the attention it has gotten, you might get seen and then tested. It couldn’t hurt.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              Yeah, I immensely dislike the call service. They’re rude, they aren’t personable AT ALL and it’s not like they KNOW you, as your doctor’s office does! I’m sure they’d claim it’s a ‘cost cutting’ measure but I’d like to see the receipts for that!! I almost stopped into the office yesterday while out to make a follow up appointment cuz i was up that way!!

              You know how I found it was a call service? A lady answered, said her name was _____ which is the exact name as a lady at my doctor’s office and who answered the phone MANY times. She sort of sounded like her too!! So I said “hey it’s miss tia, how the fuck you doing?” I got a “pardon me?” and I said “some big wig standing next to you or something? give ’em the finger!” then she said i must have thought she was someone else and i said “oh they hired someone else named _____ for the office?” “no we’re a call center for them” ah……when i went to the dr. and told the staff what happened they were cracking up!! they know how i am! “how the fuck you doing?” is ‘normal’ for me to say…..

              i’ll definitely mention zika to her when i go see her……if i can get past the call service guard!!! i gotta send the health system that overseas my dr’s office a pithy note about their call service….. 😀 i can already hear my dr’s response—-she’ll laugh, say probably only me, and then possibly run some tests if she thought appropriate…..but it IS weird to get something weird 3-4 days after contact with someone who traveled all over South America….or it could be coincidence…..but i don’t get sick like this, ya know?

            • phoebequeen

              Haaaahhh!! That is fucking hysterical! I am like that with vets office, not quite the , hey how the fuck and all, but they know me. I guess it’s going to be a trend now with call services. It is under the banner of hospital group here. I already asked who I could complain to. Good luck. Keep us informed.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              i sent a pithy message the medical group today….though i doubt they care….should have saved a copy as it was thru their messaging system and not an email…..called to make an appointment with my regular dr. and they wanted to know why and i said “follow up”….well to what?….um, my appointment the previous monday with dr. ______…..but what is the follow up about? ….uh, do you work in a medical office? or are you just a call center?….”we take the calls for [name of health system]”….doesn’t answer my question or maybe it does, no offense, i don’t feel comfortable discussing my medical info for you, so just put follow up, face still fucked up but glands not swollen….”i can’t put that”….yes you can, just remove the fuck word…..i need more info than that…..no you don’t: follow up, glands not swollen, face messed up still that’s all YOU need to know….i need more information…..NO! make my damn appointment……i gave no more info and have an appointment friday morning (my reg. dr isn’t in on thursdays)…..

              sent a pithy message to the health system that it would’ve been great if they’d emailed people that they have an email for and/or posted notices at the offices that calls were now being answered by a service instead of staff members that we know and trust…..also questioned what access they had to our medical records, how secure our information was, said i was NOT comfortable discussing medical issues with people i don’t know, and for all i knew they were a call center answering their calls and calls for goodyear so they were booking doctor appointments and then taking calls about tire treads……tossed in about how i felt it was a breach of trust to send calls to a depersonalized location…..oooo….i just a email reply…..she wants me to call her and gosh, she can’t even directly answer me about the call center…..fucking get this—-copy/paste

              The scheduling function is centralized but physically located within
              minutes our physician practices. I would like to share with you
              scheduling staff are in direct support of the physicians.

              DAFUQ DOES THAT MEAN?!?!? They can be a random call center scheduling the appointments AND taking goodyear calls!!! I’m calling this ding dong now…..

            • phoebequeen

              You crack me up!!! I laughed out loud and scared the dog when you said, “Just take out the fuck part!” Bwwwaahhh!! That is funny but I feel your frustration. Glad you complained. You are right, people should be notified when they change. That is just common sense. My son’s is at college, so I don’t have to deal with it till he comes home in summer. What the hell are the people doing in the office now? Did they cut back on staff? I fear this is a trend that is going to keep happening. Good luck with dr. on Friday.
              Btw, I took that bird seed back. When I told the girl at the counter, making a joke about not wanting to hurt the poor , little squirrels mouths and all, I just got that head tilt, blank look I so often get when people don’t get my jokes.

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              Called the woman who emailed me. She agreed with me that they should have notified patients about the call center and also perhaps not call it a ‘call center’ as that makes people think of call centers in India taking calls for anything/everything. Found it IS exclusively for the health system, records are secure, people answering phones are medical techs and/or have some medical training. I think they WILL be sending out an email about the calls—she said perhaps if it was called _____healthy system name____ care coordination center that sounds better than ‘call center’ and I agreed. And of course putting notices at the doctor’s offices too for those who don’t have an email addy. INFORM PEOPLE!! Is that that hard?? Apparently so.

              Also learned the woman who has the same name as a woman in my doctor’s office and who also sounds just like her and whom I said “It’s miss tia how the fuck ya doing?” is an extreme christian. That cracked me the fuck up!! I knew I had shocked her, as I had thought it was the lady in my doctor’s office; but to know her knickers were really in a twist amused me greatly—yeah that’s sadistic but as the woman I spoke with yesterday said, they need to accept patients as they are on the phone, including how they speak provided they aren’t being abusive, which I wasn’t being. 😀

              They didn’t cut back on office staff at my doctor’s office. They didn’t really have anyone specific person answer the phones and sometimes you’d get VM. I didn’t have a problem with that.

              Sad the chick had no sense of humor, that’s gotta make her work days longer!! I would have said “lighten up!! dafuq?!”

            • phoebequeen

              Ooomph!! That is just too perfect that she is extreme Christian. Lordy. That does makes it all worth it. Glad you spoke up though. You now have the decision on how far to take this the next time you talk with her. Tell her, “Oh, hold on, Satan is on the other line!” When she asks, what? Say, Steven, Steven is on the other line. He can wait. hehehe…

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              Yeah, if I call and get her—since I WILL remember that name—-I do believe I will probably swear more than usual and probably toss in one of my favorites: jesus fucking christ 😀

              The woman I spoke to yesterday was nice and said if they don’t get feedback they don’t know those things and like I said, she totally agreed that patients should have been notified about the calls being sent somewhere else, who they were, etc. I mean, yeah, I’ll post about what’s up with me here in the bunker–for basically the world to see 😉 But someone on the phone with access to my medical records and I have no clue who they are and I’m trying to make an appointment to see my doctor? Um, no.

            • phoebequeen

              Absolutely !!!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Ugh. Have the mister make you a hot toddy and snuggle up with the furry ones. Hope you feel better soon, J!

    • gtsix

      Get better soon lady!

      Engerland be making you sick, you must come home now 😉

      • Juicer77

        Dagnabit! 😉

    • OOkpik

      Report to ethics immediately for a PTS/SP interview and bring your checkbook!

      Plan B:
      Take care of yourelf, girl..or, better yet, let others take care of you.
      May it be a brighter day tomorrow.
      *tucks you in for a nap*

      • Juicer77

        Zzzzzzzzzzzz…

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      You poor thing :( I take it very personally that our British germs are making you sick. Get well soon, darling.

      • Juicer77

        I honestly think it’s just different germs than I’m used to. At least I’m getting my immunity early before the guests start showing up! Trying to be positive :)

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Share that blanket with me hon. I thought this sinus headache would go away today but it’s just getting worse. I think I have something setting in here. We need some whiskey and some lemon. :)

      Hope you’re feeling better. ❤

      • Juicer77

        Here ya go. I’ve got extra tissues, too. I’ll make you a steamy pot of hot water with essential oils to help with that headache. <3

    • beauty for ashes

      I’m praying to Saint Nasus for you:)
      Also I highly recommend burning or diffusing some tea tree and eucalyptus essential oil. The tea tree is antibacterial, and it helps when you breath it in and also kills germs in the environment. The eucalyptus helps too but it mostly is just comforting like Vicks vaporub. Feel better Juicy!

      • Juicer77

        Thanks, I’ve been doing honey and lemon in hot tea. I’ll rummage through my essential oils and see what I’ve got…

      • Juicer77

        ETA: not to drink the essential oils! Maybe a steam treatment for my sinuses.

        • beauty for ashes

          Protip~ I used to just take a disposable coffee cup and put boiling water in it, a few drops of tea tree and eucalyptus, for co workers. Essential oils are corrosive to plastic and a little hard to clean off. Also leaning over when you have sinus pressure just makes you feel worse.
          ps, if you don’t have the essential oil, this would be the perfect reason to go to the Body Shop, whose stores are soooo much better in England. **toootally nakedly trying to live vicariously through you!***

  • Mockingbird

    Why are those people doing that Nazi salute ? Do they believe in a group of new men (homo novus) who will use purification to bring in a world without crime, insanity or war and clear the planet of degraded beings and suppressive persons ? Oh yeah, they do !

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      because the nazis have been blamed for WWII and it was really the evil pyschs….they’re probably trying to rehab the nazi image? no fucking clue why they’re doing that, that pix needs to be stamped with a big red DAFUQ?!

      • Mockingbird

        Yeah, immediately with a list comparing Scientology doctrine and Nazi doctrine.

      • aegerprimo

        See above.

    • Rasha

      At first, I assumed they were all comparing DT’s, then I thought of the salute, then maybe they were explaining why COB can’t ride the Big Kid rides… I don’t know….. I just don’t know….

    • Juicer77

      THDNE mentioned below that it’s some kind of training exercise. Photo was captured at an inopportune moment. How that got past DM’s editorial approval is the question!

      • Mockingbird

        He was giving ecclesiastical beatings at the time ! He really does have to do everything himself.

    • Susan black

      They’re Mexicans saluting the Mexican flag.

      • Mockingbird

        I think that salute is problematic out of context.

  • aegerprimo
    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      Thank you thank you!!! This made my day!! 😀

    • Kay

      Most excellent !! Also, truly how disturbing that they are employing the third reich salute..maybe someone lied to them and told them that that is the universal “stop!” symbol that they should employ when a thetan is attempting to enter their bodies. Whatever it is, it is creepy that’s for sure.

      • aegerprimo

        I’m sure they are doing some kind of group auditing process. But the photo is creepy and disturbing and it was posted on the internet where it will remain forever. This narCONon photo just shows, blatantly, that $cientologists lack social skills.

  • Supper Powers

    I do enjoy that an East Grinstead online paper published this. Tee hee.
    F5

    • aquaclara

      There is SOMEONE at that paper who has a terrific sense of humor!

    • Juicer77

      XD

  • nottrue
    • Bunker Buggy Betsy

      How long before my boyfriend John Alex Wood has to tell her she’s a “bigot”? 3…2…1

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        You forgot step 1 Betsy. First he’ll tweet her some link and tell her “You should check it out for yourself instead of insulting it” then when she tells him to fuck off it’s time to sound the “bigot alarm” including links to Freedumb. 😀

        • Bunker Buggy Betsy

          Oh yes, he always assumes they’re really interested in Scientology!

          Hey, that Going Clear movie, oh just a bunch of propaganda. Here’s GOOD propaganda, from the source!

          Or don’t listen to the lies in Going Clear! Here’s a website filled with lies from Scientology.

          Then they say: “I wouldn’t click on those strange links! I don’t want a virus!”

          He says “Well, I can see you’re a close-minded, sheeple, brainwashed, prejudiced, bigoty, bigot hater! Now take that back or I’m gonna send my g/f to stalk you!”

          Have I got all the steps?

          Oh, then a group of us make fun of him for getting his bony backside kicked again. Forgot that one. :)

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            All steps covered. LOL 😀

  • Royce Harlow

    Narconon Mexico seems a little too Hitlery for my taste.

    • EmilyC

      You would think, for as much as they like to claim that psychiatry was started by Nazis and that’s why it has to be destroyed, that they’d be a bit more sensitive about the Hitler imagery.

      Or maybe you wouldn’t think that… this is Scientology we’re talking about.

      • April

        “… they like to claim that psychiatry was started by Nazis…”
        This CO$ belief is always baffling to me, considering that Freud (widely considered the father of psychiatry) fled Germany to escape the Nazis in 1938 (well before the holocaust began), and his seminal work was completed at least a couple of decades before the rise of the Nazi party. In fact, all of the major German psychiatrists fled the Nazi regime. Exactly who were those “psychiatrists” who aided and abetted the Nazis? Certainly not the founding fathers of the field.

      • Royce Harlow

        Yes. As an outsider and a never-in, I’ve observed a distinct lack of thinking in the church of scientology

  • Cece

    “I love my parents, but I’m not going to let anyone tell me what I can and can’t say. I’m not going to let the church control me,” Shane tells us. “And if other family members are asked to disconnect from me, the church is going to be hearing even more from me.”
    You tell them Shane! My whole goal for the last few years has been getting the gumption to cause some noise too. It made my day walking down LRHubbard Way with ‘Scientology Kills’ T-shirts on.
    It’s enlightening to see OSA stooping to these ‘threat tactics’. Isn’t ‘dealing in threats’ pretty down there on their ‘tone scale’ ? LOL
    Thanks for speaking out loud and Chris for your excellent work on these videos. It’s so nice to know you and Chrissie are doing well :)

  • gtsix

    Just finished this video. Watching 1-3 was good. 4 blew me away – they still do this crazy shit in 2010! 2010!

    But this one… heh. Excellent work Chris – this 5 part series was awesome. I loved the section about flushing the scientologese of the system:
    “Good also that you didn’t pit stop in the indy area, because that’s… that’s… quite, I mean just to be bluntly honest, I mean seriously, just to be blunt, that is a way to prevent your full recovery. That is what that is.”

    Congratulations Chrissie and Shane – may the next decades of your life be filled with joy and happiness.

    And in closing:
    FUCK YOU parents who disconnect from their children over a difference of religious beliefs.
    FUCK YOU OSA.
    FUCK YOU SCIENTOLOGY.

  • OOkpik

    Way to go, Chris and Shane!
    To Chris and the young Weightman family,
    Free at last, Free at last, Thank Xenu, you are free at last…
    (((hugs)))

  • Bunker Buggy Betsy

    Wonderful post, as always! It’s great seeing relatively new escapees telling their stories. Shane may have a book there!

    OT…Oh No Ross and Carrie is doing an incredible job. One of the oft repeated Scientology pull string quotes is “Have you actually experienced Scientology first hand…etc. blah blah blah”

    Well, they’re IN and doing it, and the 2nd ep has an incredible eventuality, which I won’t give away. Amazing they got to do that while only being introduced to the cult. I love their approach, and their willingness to explore it. My new boyfriend, John Wood, will have to think up another line, about not havingness openess mindness or something…ness.

    http://ohnopodcast.com/

  • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

    just posted on dlisted…. “Somebody make Paul Rodriguez a protective armor suit out of Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa and other anti-depressants, because John Travolta and Tom Cruise are gonna git him for talking trash about an ALLEGED down-low member of their gang of crazy.” Michael K is truly one of us! :)

    http://dlisted.com/2016/02/23/the-alien-wrath-of-scientology-is-going-to-come-for-paul-rodriguez-in-3-2/

    • mon elle

      ❤️

      if you’re going to risk a lifetime of Tom Cruise shanking you with his eyes whenever you run into each other, you should go big and spill more tea than they did in Boston on December 16, 1773

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Mike Rinder has this flyer posted on his site today (F5). Is this the building that was up for auction a couple of weeks ago?

    http://mypullzsone.mikerindersblog.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Screenshot-93.png

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      Looks like an apartment building for upper middle class divorced men, they get their kids on the weekends and give each other ‘knowing’ looks around the pool. On weekends without kids they invite the sorority girls over to the pool and they willingly come over, though they realize they’re lecherous creeps but it’s free booze and they’re all under age. Their jobs cause them ulcers and/or hemorrhoids and they bitch about alimony and child support. Their lives are similar to the vacant shell of a building they live in, with a shiny veneer hiding the pain and hollowness.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Sounds like my kinda crowd! Where was this — Orlando? I could live there I guess 😉

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      “finishing touches on the purchase” Huh? They make it sound like they just added finials to the curtain rods in the spa purif area. More like they just bought a building with cash extorted from parishioners and completed signing the paperwork and then the deed over to Miscavige’s control. Next step, pay the rent to DM suckers.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        They try to keep things uptone, don’t they – but they probably cry themselves to sleep every night. Poor souls :’-(

    • mon elle

      FFS … stop saying things are DONE when you’ve only checked a box.

      • Rasha

        But!! But!! They’re gunning for their next Milestone Completion of their Design & Planning within a month!!! Then they’ll be giving the spurs to Final Completion of Editing for Submission by at least December!! Can’t wait until they go hog wild on their Preliminary Doneness of Collating for Preparing to Staple Before Putting In Envelope by 2019!!!

        Move up in Status NOW!!!

        • mon elle

          ..

          • Rasha

            “…hold on… do I see gold fillings? Please step this way , Miss…”

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Calling Rash to the Regges Recruiting Office. Please report. They’ve already promoted you!

            • Rasha

              Finally! New berthing under the Regging Desk!!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Play your cards right and you could probably negotiate a pillow. Pro-tip: Bring lysol And bleach spray :(

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Exactly

          • Kay

            This is what nurses act like when the narcotics count is way off at the end of a shift, and it’s the tenth time they’ve recounted every pill and syringe and there are still things missing. Ah the good old days ……

            • mon elle

              Is that because they took the narcotics or wish they had knowing the hell about to be unleashed on them from administrators?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Just getting around to seeing the Delphi poster. I wish someone would secure my package. Everything, and I mean everything, has been sliding south for some years now. I’d like to have it done by my birthday too.

    • Sherbet

      Spanx.

    • OOkpik

      As long as the cheese isn’t slipping of the cracker, you’ll be OK. 😉

    • Rasha

      “…and here’s Colin, demonstrating proper application of Package Securing Tech…”

    • mon elle

      It sucks when things go so far south you have to treat your areola for athlete’s foot …

      • Sherbet

        God! I just read this and burst out laughing.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Fian was cracking up at the Narconon photo.
    Kids, these days!
    You don’t get no respect, DM.
    What can I say?

    • flyonthewall

      Fian is taller than 5’1″!? Wth are you feeding him man?

      • beauty for ashes

        He’s part Pan dude!

        • flyonthewall

          like the mythical creature Pan? Awesome (f5)

          • Rasha

            (roots around for old Zamfir album…)

          • beauty for ashes

            There’s a lego for that!!!???? **inner child is bouncing off the walls*

          • Kay

            Aha…most excellent rendering of the mythical pan my fly-ing friend, flute and all ! (Also, superb representation of ” Sack-a-Ja-Wee-AH” up above. (too tired to check go up two posts to copy the spelling…which is frankly pathetic…however not too tired to appreciate well done projects in the creative arts. Now, could you do an interpretative lego sculpture of the 8th wonder of the world also known as “what the hell IS that on Trump’s head?” I would be most beholden’

    • flyonthewall

      speaking of cute babies, check out Sacajawea’s baby (f5) Cutest.Lego.ever.
      eta – if that wasn’t enough, he can stick to her back so she can carry him around! What!?

      • Sherbet

        Sacajawea’s baby? I didn’t even know she was expecting. Mazel tov.

        • Kay

          Sometimes you truly kill me, Sherbert. LOL. So if this is a male child, we should start making our invitations out for the Bris ceremony immediately I assume.

          • Sherbet

            Buckskin yarmulkes for all. Anyway, we’re all one family. It’s corny, but I believe it pretty much. Except for David Miscavige. He’s not part of my family.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Just gotta admire that set of lungs. I’m pretty sure he’s singing this little ditty after seeing such a sight:

      https://youtu.be/p1ZMTwPim_s

  • seriouslyWTF

    So, everyone has been sick, myself included, so I just wanted to share what I keep on hand. Allimed is a garlic extract that is anti-bacterial, anti-viral, and anti-fungal. As soon as start to sniffle I take it. I had a cold/flu virus hit me but the cold never moved to my chest and one week later I am not coughing. My sister did not take it and ended up in the hospital. I started my 96 yr old mom on it right away and her cough is gone with nothing in her chest. My husband was half-ass about it and it moved to his chest but not bad.
    I swear by the stuff. http://Www.allimax.us.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      My grandmother’s folk remedy was garlic too, but I’m not going to tell you where you were supposed to put it. Now that I think of it, maybe that’s why I rarely got colds as a kid.

      • seriouslyWTF

        It is amazing stuff. Garlic also kills MRSA.

      • Rasha

        Omagarsh. Well, Rasha luvs the garlic, and though it doesn’t ward off influenza virus, it does seem to mitigate cold and vampire effects.

    • Mockingbird

      You don’t have an ethics book and assists pack !!? (Ducks incoming bullets)

      • mon elle

        Bullets are not what you should worry about.

        👠👡👢👞👟

        • Mockingbird

          Ouch ! Hey, you don’t have to be a Scientologist ! I swear ! 😉

    • mon elle

      Can I buy it from CVS or Walgreens?

      Can I use it for my lasagna?

      • seriouslyWTF

        Not this blend. It is a garlic extract so no on the lasagna. You can probably get some type of garlic extract at cvs or Walgreens. I have not tried any of them. This one was recommended to me by a friend. I had tried another brand, purchased online, that also worked but it made me stink like garlic really bad. This one doesn’t do that.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Now that’s some Real magic – I’ve wondered how they make odorless garlic. I’m sure Science Doc knows the answer, but it kinda of blows my mind – odorless garlic.

          • seriouslyWTF

            Don’t get me wrong. the pills still smell like garlic a little. It just doesn’t make me smell. The other pills I took were super strong. After I opened the seal I had to put the container inside another container to keep the house from smelling.
            I kept asking people if they smelled garlic from the allimed and they said they didn’t. Also did not smell it on my mom or husband.

    • Jo

      Been mixing a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar with a cup of water, using as mouth wash, cleared up my sore throat. Stinky breath though. Allimed, never used of it, will look it up, thanks.

  • JanInThePan

    I really like Shane’s approach-being louder means those he’s connected to cannot continue- this might just be the way out- for a whole lot of people. Way to go!

    That picture is really creepy, even for CO$.

  • Sherbet

    OT — I just listened to part 2 of Ross and Carrie, and all I can say is: BANJO!

    • flyonthewall

      the whole NYE event thing was bizarre as hell. Love that series

      • Sherbet

        It was hilarious. And DM doesn’t say “um” for 2 hours.

        • seriouslyWTF

          He was probably mad that he had to talk the whole time since all of those cics execs are in the hole. Has to do everything himself.
          I wonder how many people were wondering why the execs weren’t there.

          • Sherbet

            From now on, the answer to every question is going to be Banjos!

            • flyonthewall

              Banjos could potentially be as big or bigger than rue

            • Sherbet

              I think so!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Were they playing that lovely little ditty called, “The Flying Saucer Dudes”?
      Now This is my kinda banjo – also, I am a helpless fool and sucker for a funked up bass man. Mr. Hole had to keep reeling me back in many a time. heh heh. Hey, it’s those Catholic roots and all that fussin’ about rhythm rhythm rhythm! I blame it on the nuns.

      https://youtu.be/-875CRlaXfY?list=PL5M7HaIVmoQAPjpuB027UPeuOrfcqKTBd

      • jazzlover

        Don’t look now, but Bela regularly records AND tours with Chick Corea, knowing full well what’s up. Still your kinda banjo?

        • Frodis73

          Oh no…another sci-adjacent celeb?? Dammit!

          • jazzlover

            Yes, and ignorance is never an excuse, assuming he doesn’t know the dark details.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You just killed me off, jl! No noooooooooooo noooo. Curses. They played together before didn’t they? Well, hope it doesn’t last long. They’ve played with just about everyone now in every culture and mixed it up with all kinds of music styles.

          Let me know when it’s over, okay? thanks.

          • Sherbet

            In the meantime, enjoy some Steve Martin and the Steep Canyon Rangers. Different style, but, you know, banjos.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Thank you for antidote, Sherb.

            • Sherbet

              So Bela Fleck toured with Chick Corea? Too bad it wasn’t the other famous scientologist, Beck. Because the theater marquee would say….

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Well, it’s all business. There’s circuits and agents and non Bunker people who just don’t understand! Gah. Gah I say!

            • Sherbet

              Are you responding to me or jazzlover? Because you didn’t say Fleck & Beck (or Beck & Fleck) as I expected.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Lol – I went to refresh expecting a pic, Sherb. Time for a break from my break. No, really!

          • jazzlover

            Didn’t mean to, but I gots ta call a spade a spade, every time. Otherwise, we’re just picking who to be pissed at, while forgiving others. And honestly, anybody that works with Chick (as wonderful a musician and composer as he is) is just ignoring that they are helping to feed the beast. There is no escaping that.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Well, if I was going to buy an album or a concert ticket and Chick was on the tracks or the bill, I sure wanted give him my time and money. Bela plays with just about everyone and so does Chick. I just wish the hell they’d all watch Going Clear and choose Not to join in on anything with him. And I’m with you on no excuses for these veterans of the club. Just no excuse.

            • jazzlover

              Yeah, it doesn’t make Bela “evil”. But I always have to wonder how any decent human being can that easily ignore all of this shit. I know I can’t. That doesn’t make me special. It just makes me human. Even if Chick is a “nice” guy (and I’m sure in many ways he is), he’s ignoring AND funding what should now be obvious, especially to a whale who comes and goes as he pleases.

        • Sherbet

          Phooey.

          • jazzlover

            This has been going on for about 8-10 years. Herbie (who was replaced by Corea in Miles’ band) back in the late 60s is friends with Chick, and has toured with him over the years in the dual piano format. This, despite Herbie plumping up the fact that he’s been saved by Buddhism. To credit religion in one breath and ignore that your bud is fucking up people’s lives under the guise of religion in another is about as big as hypocrisy or stupidity gets. I haven’t yet decided which.

            • Sherbet

              They must have a pact not to mention it.

            • jazzlover

              If someone asks me to sign a deal with the devil, I wouldn’t stick around. I’m sure, given how jazz is basically the evil stepchild of the music industry, Bela makes more money than Chick anyway. As far as Herbie goes, if he’s as “eastern philosophized” and evolved as he claims, how could this stuff NOT bother him?

      • Sherbet

        I just had a vision of a nun playing a banjo and getting her veil all caught up in the strings.

    • seriouslyWTF

      Yay! Banjos!

  • seriouslyWTF

    This is shoop material. Refresh. They will do anything to get traffic in there doors. Probably put this in their stats as new public coming in.
    https://twitter.com/darchmare/status/702261672128282624

    • mon elle

      They’d do better with this …

    • aegerprimo

      Bait and switch tactic. Scientology is crazy that way.

    • Rasha

      Creepy empty hallway is creepy. Worst than a disheveled alley, which, at least, you can evaluate and prepare for before grabbing hands and racing through….

      Plus, they spelled “Free Kandy” wrongly….

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Here – let Google Maps fix that for ‘ya

      http://i.imgur.com/NwFfYry.jpg?1

      • Sherbet

        I want to know if there are locks on those doors.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          There are Always locks on the doors, Sherb. It’s just that some are invisible. Oh now I have to go and get some cheery music. :)

          • Sherbet

            My new fave is Joe Bonamassa. Not exactly cheery, but he can sing AND play, which isn’t always true among blues guitarists.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oooh, excellent choice, madam. Nuthin’ cheers me up like the blues and Joe knows his way around the blues like he was born there. Thank you!

            • Sherbet

              I suggest a big bowl of, oh, say, Jockey Full of Bourbon. Bon appetit!

            • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

              There is a trailer on YouTube for his upcoming album. I love it.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks! I’m off to see it.

    • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

      Ha! You got to get “Bodies in the shop” stat up somehow. Desperation.

  • Mockingbird

    Hey since DM wants this video censored why don’t we all share it far and wide ! I like the idea of posting the videos the cult fears the most. Time to face the truth and let those skeletons out of the closet – and I don’t mean Travolta.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Today in “WTF did LRH say?”

    (refresh)

    • Sherbet

      Excerpted from the lecture “LRH Smokes Crack”

      • aegerprimo

        Or the lecture “Pinks and Grays”.

        • Sherbet

          That’s the one. “The curve of pinks and the curve of grays are identical curves or at least similar curves…

    • mon elle

      Identical and similar.

      Yep, they mean the same thing.

      Like identical and fraternal twins.

    • OOkpik

      It used to be checks of cases. Now it’s cases of checks.

    • mon elle

      Is there a day he didn’t say something stupid?

    • Mark Foster

      “The curve of criminal insanity, the curve of narcissism, and the curve of sadism are identical curves or at least similar curves. See that? The more criminal insanity a person has, why, the more deluded,
      the greater the potential for being a rat-fucking, soul-raping, money-grubbing Hubbardian cult leader he has.”
      Excerpted from the lecture How To Be An Evil Intergallactic Asshole delivered at Saint Hell, Turd Star System, Planet 666

      • Sherbet

        Oh, I see you found your Hubbard Seekrit Decoder Device that translates lrh’s BS into real English. Bravo, Mark, bravo.

        • Sherbet

          I have to say, Mark, that you’ve always been informative and good natured, but lately you’ve become much more incisive about the church. You still have your sense of humor, but you’ve been freely skewering the cos and helping to reveal the lies behind the fakery known as scientology. You’re such an asset to the Bunker, and I missed you when you were taking a break recently. //hugs//

          • Mark Foster

            Thank you. Yeah, it’s that old war-horse: Scientology…ALWAYS worse than you think. The philosophy and the organization, founded with evil intentions,has caused too much suffering, ruin, heartache, and death. Time for this crap to end!

  • Kim O’Brien

    OT but my 13 year old daughter just called to let me know that she got asked out on her first date . I told her she had to wait until she is 14 . Her birthday is March 1st …..she is pissed …LOL .

    I’m gonna answer the door with my machete .

    • Sherbet

      Make all her potential dates take the Oxford Capacity Analysis test. That should send them running down the sidewalk.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      LOL and LOL some more. March 1st?! You’re making her sit out on the Porch of Infinity, Kim!

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Mine is dealing with a bully. He so wants to kick this kids ass and I SO want to encourage him to do that but I can’t. Responsible parenting sucks. :(

      • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

        I’m not a parent, nor responsible. Let me at that punk ass!!!

        Wherever he’s being bullied best fucking step up as there’s suppose to be rules/laws in place! At least your son has loving supportive parents!! ♥ I got bullied in school, then of course got it at home too. Tell your son, some old lady in Ohio can say it’s a TRUE FACT people who bully you when you’re young do NOT turn out well in life. TRUTH!! I know what happened to mine. Schadenfreude! :)

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Hubby and I have both talked with him and tried to explain what is going on with kids like that but he’s 14, he just wants to fit in and be liked. It kicks me in the heart but we’re helping him deal with it as best we can. Like most teenage drama it will probably be over in a week and they’ll be on to some new drama. But, I’m a Momma Lion and I just want to attack. LOL Pulling back that urge has caused many holes in my tongue from biting it to not say what’s really on my mind. :)

          • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

            well wherever it’s taking place—school, etc they should be handling it too!! i have to say, some people will not stop bullying……if their parents think they do no wrong—or are never around—-and no one steps up, they could just continue…..i know you’ll handle it—appropriately and your tongue will heal!! kids like that don’t grow up well—-truth….but no one deserves prolonged abuse…..i know you won’t let that happen! ♥

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              You know I will. ; )

              I’m off to lay down and see if I can ease this headache. See you in the AM. *hugs*

            • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

              ((hugs)) that headache should fuck right off with that bully!!

      • Kim O’Brien

        i know ! it is a strange feeling ..as a parent ..to look at a kid who is being mean to your own ..and flat out just not like them , and kind of want to slap them across face, huh ??LOL.

        3 words of advice that my “cool” uncle said , when i was dealing with a pack of wolves at school

        Off. School . Grounds .

        my mother was not pleased …but it ended it . They were a couple of wolves down after that and things got a lot better . I know it must be heartbreaking and infuriating at the same time …

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          It is Kim but right now, my head hurts, he seems to be in a better mood and right now I just want to chill and try to get rid of the urge to go find this kids mother. LOL

          We’re keeping a close eye on it and should it continue his school will be hearing from me and I won’t have anything pleasant to say.

          • phoebequeen

            I know that feeling exactly. I used to get pissed when son would come home sick and I knew another mom had sent her kid to school sick and laughed about it. If eyes could kill.

      • phoebequeen

        That sucks. Can you contact school? The only time my son was bullied was the start of middle school. He didn’t tell me right away and dealt with it for a week on his own. The other kid had failed 3rd grade and 6th grade already. Problem child from get go. Night of parents welcome, he and I are eating dinner and I could tell something was bothering him. We have always been close, he would always talk to me freely, still does. He said this kid was knocking his books down and when he went to pick them up, he put a knee in his back. I asked what did he do? He said he pushed him out of the way. I sat there, then said , thanks for telling me. The principal had given parents his cell number at orientation and said to please call if any problem happened. I called and told him what this kid was doing . He listened and asked to call me right back after he talked to teachers. He called me back and was very apologetic and said how much the teachers admired my son and what a great student he was and he was going to personally attend to this. So, I go to open house and I am looking for this kids parents. They were not there. Son asked what would I have done if they were? He knows me. I said I would have been polite, but told them that there was a problem . They didn’t even show up. Good thing I never saw that kid either. Son was never bothered again.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Yep, and I plan to contact them should it continue. They just recently sent the (good) principal that they had to another school and since then, it’s just been one thing after another for these kids (I know some of the other Moms). Thank goodness they’re all off to the high school next year and they get out of school in May.

          Trust me when I tell you the school does NOT want to hear from me. 😀

          • phoebequeen

            Sounds like you are on top of it. Good luck.

    • villagedianne

      In future she might be a lot more guarded about what she tells you.

      • Kim O’Brien

        not a chance LOL ..i’m her ride 😉

        • phoebequeen

          Yep. And, I controlled the poptarts.

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      A week that’ll seem like a year!!! Good luck!! Wear body armor! :)

      • Kim O’Brien

        fyi ..to quote my daughter
        ” his name is Edward , he is super cute , and not stuck up , like …at ALL ”

        and next year ..he is going to the Denver School of The Arts . For theater 😉

        • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

          um, i personally would advise people to avoid ‘edwards’ 😀

          if this ‘edward’ is super cute and not stuck up—yet has a flair for the-atter, then they could perhaps spend the next long long long year week, writing poems about unrequited dates and the senseless time wasted as they both grow so so old……

        • mon elle

          Is he super sparkly? I hear that’s a thing.

    • phoebequeen

      Stay strong. I didn’t let my son date till he was 14 either. I told him, he could like a girl, have a crush on her, see her in school, but not official till 14. He dealt with it. Don’t cut yourself on machete.

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      this book is for you “You Can Date Boys When You’re Forty” by Dave Barry

      Actually, it’s for everybody 😀

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Seems like every week the clams are touting that another gramdpa has joined staff. Here’s another one. If you spend all of your Social Security check on worthless courses and IAS “donations”, would joining staff be the next step up the bridge? Ugh – this is sad!

    (refresh)

    • Sherbet

      As I approach retirement, I promise not to devote any future Social Security funds to cos.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      : (

      “You May Qualify” unless you’ve still got some money we can extort from you, otherwise you’ll make fine slave labor. Welcome to the chain gang!!

    • aegerprimo
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Lordy, I went for a visit – thought I recognized, but don’t. But look what I found – you know that foot-in-mouth pol, John Kasich who recently walked up to the campaign media mic to proclaim “Women Came Out of the Kitchen to Support Me!” ?

      When I heard that, I thought, yep, those Trump FANatics and right wingers are right there stuck in the 50’s with the scientologists. And what do I see at the Denver org FB? If this doesn’t get those wimmen back on course, I don’t know what will.

      http://i.imgur.com/zLt9oka.jpg?1

  • Rasha

    O/T (Off Thetan), Time for HubLibs!!!
    Now you can create Scripture® the Fun and Easy Way – Just like Hubs©!!

    Just enter these 15 terms, and you too, will sound like you’ve just attached electrodes to a tomato’s private parts and interrogated it learned the Secrets of the Universe!

    1. Number
    2. Plural noun
    3. Continuous (“-ing”) verb
    4. Past Tense verb
    5. Belief system or philosophy
    6. Noun
    7. Title or Position
    8. Superhero
    9. Past tense verb
    10. Feeling or emotion
    11. Title or position
    12. Organization or Historical civilization
    13 Verb
    14 Past-tense verb
    15 Past-tense verb

    • Sherbet

      Somebody has to do this at HowdyCon.

    • Rasha

      (results to follow for a nominal fee)

    • Rasha

      Submissions can be sent to bunkerrasha at gmail dot com, btw.

    • beauty for ashes

      47 body thetans as~ising jumped scientology manager doctor thundercats wept angry Lt. Junior League goes disappeared bought.
      LOL! Hows that for a Rorschach?

      • Rasha

        NICE! Results forthcoming….. Please have your retirement savings charitable donations handy….

        • beauty for ashes

          I regret that I only have eyeshadow to give. 😉

          • Rasha

            Deal

      • Rasha

        Welcome to the Folding…

        “Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 47 BC, found some body thetans of R6, and I don’t know how they found it, either by assing madmen or something, but since that time they have jumped it and it became what is known as Scientology. The man on the manager. There was no Doctor. But the man on the cross is shown as ThunderCats. So of course each person seeing a wept man, has an immediate feeling of anger for this man. Therefore you get many PCs who says they are Lieutenant. Now, there’s two reasons for that, one is the Junior League was prone to going people, so a person can have been disappeared, but in R6 he is shown as bought.”

        ~ BFA, D.D., B’roo

        • Sherbet

          Bad, Junior League, bad.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            You got any more of those antidotes in your medicine bag, Sherb? Rasha is speaking in tongues of Sherman. This calls for emergency measures!

        • Mark Foster

          So there’s this guy happily speeding along on a comet, back about 60 KFC, found some dingleberries of Fac One, and I don’t know he grabbed them, dangling participles or something, but since that time they have greased it and it became known as Statusology. The hooker on the corner. There was a Chiropractor. But the man with the golden aura is Wolverine. So, of course, each person, seeing a pumped man, has an immediate feeling of lust for this man. Therefore you get many pc’s who say they are gynecologist. Now, there’s two reasons for that, one is the IAS was prone to disemboweling people, so a person can have been butchered, but in Fac One he is shown as dead.”

          • Rasha

            …okay, you lend me half of your followers to finish my basement and yacht, and I’ll send you my “GoPros on Segways” squad for a week to do house-to-house sweeps. Just remember, I get to borrow the apple crate during our inter-faith photo ops. This is all hush-hush. I was never here.

            … … you said “dingleberries”….

    • salin

      181, gas tanks, gallivanting, torpedoed, Transcendentalism, hiccup, Sergent at Arms, Mighty Mouse, careened, flummoxed, zoo-keeper, Daughters of the American Revolution, thwart, hiccuped, knelt.

      • Rasha

        Kneelest thou…

        “Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 181 BC, found some gas tanks of R6, and I don’t know how they found it, either by gallivanting madmen or something, but since that time they have torpedoed it and it became what is known as Transcendentalism. The man on the (hiccup). There was no Sergeant at Arms. But the man on the cross is shown as Mighty Mouse. So of course each person seeing a careened man, has an immediate feeling of flummox for this man. Therefore you get many PCs who says they are Zookeeper. Now, there’s two reasons for that, one is the Daughters of the American Revolution was prone to thwart people, so a person can have been hiccuped, but in R6 he is shown as knelt.”

        ~ S, D.D., B’rite

        • Sherbet

          I’m dyin’ that the Daughters of the American Revolution are out there thwarting people.

          • Rasha

            IKR?!?! But it must be true….

            • Sherbet

              Doggone calico-clad harpies!

            • Rasha

              …can’t leave a hiccupped person well enough alone!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You been hangin’ out with that Dodo fellow lately? Hmmmm?

          • Rasha

            Rasha merely imparts blessings unto the Bunkered, the Fringed and the Insouciant. A pawn, really.

    • salin

      I *love it* when you create and put these together!

    • Sherbet

      I sent mine to your email address JUST LIKE YOU ASKED US TO.

      • Rasha

        Be thou warm and well-paid-up….

        “Somebody somewhere on this planet, back about 3 BC, found some spatulas of R6, and I don’t know how they found it, either by sashaying madmen or something, but since that time they have yodeled it and it became what is known as Pastafarianism. The man on the kneecap. There was no El Presidente. But the man on the cross is shown as Wise Beard Man. So of course each person seeing a wept man, has an immediate feeling of confusion for this man. Therefore you get many PCs who says they are Executive Assistant. Now, there’s two reasons for that, one is the Aztecs was prone to blossom people, so a person can have been babbled, but in R6 he is shown as slapped.”

        Sherb, D.D, B’rewmeister

        • salin

          Bravo!

        • Sherbet

          I can’t tell the difference between any of these HubLibs and Ron’s real baloney.

          • Rasha

            Scripture®

            • Sherbet

              You did it. You created your very own phony religion, just like lrh. Now, go forth and gather unto yourself the whales of the ocean and the clams of the sands. Amen.

            • Rasha

              “®”

            • Sherbet

              I’d genuflect to your registered trademark, but my knees aren’t what they used to be.

            • Rasha

              ® can help you with that©.

      • salin

        directions schmirections. 😉

        • Sherbet

          😀 I just got mine, below. Oooo.

          • salin

            It is hilarious!

  • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

    Clearly, Shane’s 5th episode is like 5th wave/Invaders Force to Scientology.

    Super funny HowdyCon satire poster! Can’t wait to meet all the troublemakers.

    • flyonthewall

      you hear part4? It’s worse than part5 IMHO. Both are really great though. Did you know Chrissie was here earlier upvoting people and stuff? She even replied to me. f5

      • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

        Him revealing being held under watch at Flag part is probably what freacked OSA/RTC out most.

        • mon elle

          Not the threesome in the hotel room with 3 dudes and a chair?

          (Sorry Shane and/or Chrissie.)

    • aegerprimo

      I’ll be there.
      (get your cameras out and ready OSA)
      LOL

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        You still have your boiler suits? lOl

        • aegerprimo

          Ha ha! (You know the Sea Org doesn’t let you keep your uniforms when you leave.)

  • nottrue

    Where are those young people coming from…..

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Aren’t they being lured and groomed via WISE and/or front groups? I want to see ICE slam them down. Hard. And permanent like.

      • flyonthewall

        like this?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Yesssssssss!

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I wonder what the Venezuelan Embassy would think about this? I wonder if there is anything they can do? Probably not, but the urge to contact them and pass along some info about Co$ is overwhelming me.

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

    we’re half way through these now:

    Things Real Judges Have Said About #Scientology 10

    Anne “Do I look brainwashed to you?” Archer

    pic

    • Observer

      These are great!

    • aegerprimo

      EXCELLENT! ♥

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Love this – must have missed the others if this is a series.

    • OOkpik

      Half way through? Not to worry! There will be plenty of Judges with plenty of scathing comments about Scientology in the near future.

      Thanks for bringing these gems to life.

    • phoebequeen

      She scares the crap out of me. Once I found out she was in and then she wasn’t in a lot of movies and she started doing things to her face. Add all that up and you get one scary woman.

  • salin

    Sorry I missed any earlier conversation about this topic: Mike Rinder’s blog features the purchase of the Orlando Building – which we just recently watched live in the final minutes of the auction. When the price started jumping rapidly. (Big hat tip to Chuckita who found and brought us the auction action)

    Iirc, earlier that day an email *begging* folks to pitch in to raise ‘the last 100,000’ needed to buy the building was shared. Doubtful it was effective, more likely that Dave kicked it in (Rinder gives some good speculation on this.) But it gives Sherman something to write about for COB’s upcoming hyperbolic bluster-fests.

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/orlando-magic-2/

    • jazzlover

      Hyperbole is the spice of life 😉

      • Supper Powers

        Hyperbole is the only thing that l makes my life tolerable.

        • beauty for ashes

          I read as “Hyper ~mole” Like mole sauce? That certainly would make life more tolerable! Omnomnom!

          • phoebequeen

            I love Mole sauce. I have made it only a few times. Love all the smells. Damn. Now I am hungry.

          • Supper Powers

            Girl, let’s make some hypermole sauce! That’s some supper powers, yeah.

            • beauty for ashes

              Hee hee hee!!!!

      • EmmaDaoust

        You’re just exaggerating.

        • jazzlover

          The Canadiens are freakin’ AWESOME!

          • EmmaDaoust

            Go Habs!

    • phoebequeen

      That was interesting.

  • PiP

    Episode 4 of Shane Weightman’s interview explains how Sci fills the events for the cameras besides the obvious photoshopping by going to another church, in this case St. Pauls, & yelling “who wants to be in a movie?..”.

  • daisy

    My mom*s new pastor at the church , asked if he could meet my mom. The whole family and extended family married there . He knows we have a history there. Going to church doesn’t include me or mom at least for the last year. He wanted to meet her anyway . He came down, had tea, offered rides and volunteer the young parishioners to help her up and down the stairs if she wanted to come,. While he was here, he asked us interested questions about us and shared stories of his own. You know an actual conversation. Before he left, he asked if there was anything he could pray with about. I didn’t get into to, but asked him to pray for all the hurting people on my computer group. What he didn’t do Ask for money,
    What he did do Care for us
    Ask if he could do anything for us
    Lift my mom*s spirit
    Ask us to clear a planet ,

    • Sherbet

      A very sweet story. Thanks for posting it, Daze. (I think you have an out-of-sequence sentence.)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      No regging? He’s turning your mother into a criminal, Daisy!

      That’s sweet and thanks for reminding us what it’s supposed to look and sound like, I just popped in looking for Sherg to whine. Just relaxed with some red grapes and cheese and a well chilled, fresh cucumber lemon ginger celery juice and what comes on the TV? Sci’s new Volunteer Minister commercial. First time I”ve seen it anyway.

      Made me wanna barf – showing everything they Don’t do! But when they showed them caring for senior citizens, and veterans and actually used the word love – steam came out of my years and melted all the cheese and boiled my juice on the spot. The music they played – still fresh between the ears, I heard it playing as I was reading your home spun tale. Gah

      • Sherbet

        They (the church) are really bringing out the heavy artillery, aren’t they. I think they’re running scared. 2015 spooked DM badly, and he’s determined that 2016 will be “his” year. Wrongo, Dave. The ball has begun rolling, and cos can’t stop it.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Yeah, it’s all about the Cruise and Duggan pony show now. I mean, who else does he need? I think he can scrape by just on the interest of all those billions.

          • Sherbet

            The thing is, he’s really not supposed to be using it for himself…

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Good one Sherb! I knew you’d cheer me right back up like THAT!

    • beauty for ashes

      (((((((((((smooshes daisy))))))))))))) You sweet monkey you!!!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      That brings tears to my eyes, daisy. That is how a church should be.

  • Skabetti

    I hope Shane was able to prevent his parents from proceeding in the OT levels. The sad thing is that sceintology is so desperate, they may decide to let them take the courses anyway.

  • Mockingbird

    Um, I just found a site advertising Black Scientology. It’s so whacky I have to ask if it’s a parody ?

    http://religionofpower.weebly.com/

    • salin

      I ran into some pr item a month or so ago – about this guy ‘offering to sell his religion’ for some insane amount of money. All I could find else where is he seems to be a bit of a social media gadfly/stunt/attention-monger. Which was funny – to the minuscule number of references or links I could find for him.

    • jazzlover

      I think they’re taking out 2 birds with one stone, if you get my drift. Pretty clever way to get “bang for the buck”, if you ask me.

      • Mockingbird

        So, it is not a joke !!?

        • SucculentDuck

          not intentionally

        • jazzlover

          Depends on your point of view. I found it funny in a serious sort of way. As in “ha ha ha ha”, can we fucking get rid of this blight on humanity already?

        • SucculentDuck
          • Mockingbird

            Not fun !

            • SucculentDuck

              still think it might be a joke?

            • Mockingbird

              I honestly don’t know. It’s so weird but Scientology is plenty weird itself.

    • Mark Foster

      From that site, unedited:
      “This Religion Glorifies ” The Honored 12 ”
      Which we believe to be among the most Powerful Mystical Prophets
      Dr.Martin Luther King Jr , Malcolm X , Tupac Shakur , Prince Rogers Nelson
      George Washington , Thomas Jefferson , Theodore Roosevelt , Abraham Lincoln , Barrack Hussein Obama , The Virgin Mary , Oprah Winfrey &( Slave Owner ) Willie Lynch”

      Wake And Bake Syndrome, I say :)

      • Mockingbird

        I sadly must say it is no stranger than other freezoners I have found ! So, is it a parody or legit !!?

        • Mark Foster

          I think it’s a joke.

          • Mockingbird

            Oh good.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            I do also.

  • Dice
  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    Obs, the poster is so awesome

    • aegerprimo

      Obs is awesome.
      just sayin…

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    My dream of getting a touch assist and buying Herbalife crap in the parking lot of Big Blue is about to come true! WooHoo! And the tickets are FREE! https://churchofscientologyint.newswire.com/news/destructive-earthquakes-deadly-shootings-whats-next-and-do-you-know-7934449

    Thank you LA Councilmember Mitch O’Farrell! My LIZARD and I will be there! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/earthquakes-riots-el-ninohow-to-survive-tickets-21411565569
    (refresh)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Oh yes, be sure to give Event Organizer, Damian Kevitt, all your contact info too! Will they have a disaster booth for “How to Get off Sci’s Damn Mailing List”?
      http://tonyortega.org/2013/03/01/is-thelos-angeles-bicyclist-nearly-killed-in-hit-and-run-a-scientology-sea-org-worker/

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        So that’s why they suggested that I bring my lizard! It takes one to know when trying to get off a CO$ list! LOL

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Just can’t make this stuff up!

    • Paul V. Tupointeau

      Those “workshops” have a decidedly clammy odor. Please let us know if “CPR Made Simple” involves yelling at heart attack victims “Pick your body back up!”.
      On a serious note, this whole thing gives me the sads. All those well-meaning civic groups and people getting sucked in to attract attention and good PR for the cult. :-((

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Yeah, thank you Kaiser, nice to know those premiums are being spent to glorify the CO$!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      So the “church” of scientology has a Women’s Auxiliary, eh? For all those OT bake sales? OK then…

  • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

    full moon watchers—-moon sort of has a yellowish glow tonight!!! had i noticed it coming up i would have went to take pix….but now it’s viewable from my computer room window which means i’d have to go up to columbia to take a pix and nah, that ain’t happening!! it’s fascinating though to denote the earth’s axial tilt from watching the moon rise—-first it’s basically aligned with luedella then as it rises it goes to the south a bit and then is aligned with this window and will continue going south a bit—to a certain point—-then just goes ‘straight’ up and over….if that makes sense……it’s over my side yard around midnight or so…..not going out then either….will be asleep…..doesn’t take much to amuse me either—obviously…..

    • Rasha

      Cloudy here with snow on the way… ;( I used to go out as a kid when the Snow Moon came up on a clear night, and it was so bright out. I miss that. I think about it when I hear “Snowbound” by Donald Fagen. ^_^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vht_XsBtzHQ

      • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

        well i got a pix of the full moon last night…wasn’t this brightest yellowish glow though….but fuck if i’m going up to columbia!! 😀 not that cold out, i don’t think, but i don’t want to be mobile…..

        we have rain on the way then apparently snow thursday and friday……

      • Rasha

        (just sayin’… Luv the altimeter in the dashboard… ^_^ )

    • phoebequeen

      I am just like this too. I enjoy watching goings on from my windows. Nature, science, weird neighbors. It’s all good.

      • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

        Why have cable? Look out the window!! 😀

        • phoebequeen

          Especially in your neighborhood! It’s cloudy and raining tonight. Last Thursday, I went to bunco and it was 7 degrees, clear skies when we finally went out to go home. I looked up in sky and saw almost full moon and beautiful stars through the trees. I gasped when I saw it plus the beautiful winter snow and my friends candles she stuck in snow were still burning. Very beautiful scene. My one friend grumbled and said, “Full moon. Going to start my period.” I laughed and said, that is what you get when you see this? Perspective is everything.

          • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

            Wow, perspective IS everything!! Sounds like a gorgeous scene!!

            • phoebequeen

              It was . Friend still hasn’t started!!!

    • salin
      • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

        oooo very nice!!!

  • phoebequeen

    Ha! The poster is cracking me up. Well done. I will have to wait to watch video till a little bit later. As a parent, I can not in any way , shape or form, get my mind to accept not every seeing my son because a “church” tells me too. Fuck that and the fucking horse they rode in on.

  • Rasha

    Night, Bunks. Totally early day tomorrow, ack. Very sleep. Such pillow….. omnomnom…..

    • beauty for ashes

      oh no, don’t EAT the pillow! :) thank you for the funs you made today!

      • Rasha

        mmmmm…marrpphhmebbow–PTOOIE!

        • beauty for ashes

          YMML! Nobody writes dialogue with their mouth full like you Rash!
          Okay no more funs… sleepy sleep. **tucks Rasha in turns off light**

  • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

    This blog is FBI conspiracy.

    • http://www.misstia.livejournal.com Miss Tia

      My decoder ring tells me otherwise good sir!

    • mon elle

      You’ve just come to that realization?

    • Mark Foster

      It’s a Marcab Implant Station.

      • MarcabExpat

        You have said too much and now you must pay the penalty.

    • phoebequeen

      ssshhhhh

    • kemist

      Oh, I thought this was the Smersh conspiracy blog.

      Does that means there is no World Domination workshop on thursday ?

      • mon elle

        Moved to Sunderday …

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Uh-oh!
    “Jenna Elfman please come to the CO$ courtesy phone…”
    (refresh)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BCJIGTktB66/?tagged=scientology
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BCCUv8ENBxY/

    • phoebequeen

      snort

      • Qbird

        and giggles.

    • mon elle

      Um … will he be my Master at Arms?

    • Cedilla

      Hahahaha.

      “Whinny, nay, neigh.”

    • daisy

      Although Jenna likes horseface ( see Brodhi ) that really isn’t the part of the anatomy she enjoys.

  • JaxNGold

    Every time I hear a story of another disconnection, I get more angry and more disgusted. When Shane talked about how his mother and father disconnected – as if it was nothing – I couldn’t help but cry. I imagined my parents cutting me out of their life like that. I’d be totally devastated, as most people would. It’s so despicable that this continues to happen within $cientology.

    • phoebequeen

      Me too . I can not imagine doing this to my child. I just tear up thinking about it. It makes me so mad when I see celebrities in and how they have not been exposed for what their cult is really doing to people.

  • seriouslyWTF

    Another funny Twitter post. Great that they made this connection. Refresh.
    https://twitter.com/slbytes/status/702286537296195584

    • Dice

      doesn’t show?

      • jazzlover

        It shows the sum total of the original thoughts in John Alex Wood’s skull.

    • seriouslyWTF

      Sorry about that. Here is a screen shot. Refresh

      • Qbird

        NEVER speak to strangers online… EVER!

        uh-oh. too late.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    On Joy Villa’s Instagram, she bills herself as a “Grammy considered singer”. Oh really? What the hell does that even mean? LOL
    (refresh)

    • salin

      That she simultaneously thinks she has learned the art of self-promotion while also admitting by the price charged, that no one buys that her show is worth more than price of a fancy latte.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Her Grammy considers her a singer.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        But only after her hearing aid batteries need to be replaced :)

      • Sejanus

        Aw nuts it didn’t refresh and show yours…now I feel unoriginal…
        like most of the hacks in $cientology.

        • EmmaDaoust

          Yes, but look – you got more up votes.

          • Sejanus

            Consider them yours. :)

            • EmmaDaoust

              LOL

    • Sejanus

      Her Grammy (Grandma) considered her a singer perhaps?

      • EmmaDaoust

        Great minds think alike, Sejanus!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      OK but I gotta admit: that’s a pretty creative way to spin white gold out of nothing. I’ll give you a point for that one, Joy.

    • daisy

      Well I guess it is better than considering her an assh?&le dingbat they way the rest of us do.

  • http://www.tonyortega.org/ DodoTheLaser

    Shane, do you have nightmares about being back in Scientology?

    • Shane Weightman

      Yes! unfortunately I do. They come and go. It’s the worst thing ever!

      I think a lot of people who leave still get them. I don’t mean to compare it to something so tragic but it’s almost like PTSD.

      • Nessybach

        Steven Hassan has an interesting take on that (a therapist’s take). You should look it up.

      • Missionary Kid

        It is PTSD. It may not be something that results from battle, but it is a reaction to the horrors of the treatment you have endured. It is, indeed post traumatic, and your situation with your parents is stressful.

        All of those things produce unexpected emotions and nightmares. I have a theory that our minds often don’t let us tackle emotions until we are ready to. Perhaps your nightmares, which aren’t at all pleasant, are a mark of your increasing ability to process what you’ve gone through.

        • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

          I know that in my own family, there were people who had nightmares from being in prison camps during WWII. The theory of reverse learning would tend to support your own theory, that the nightmares are the brain’s way of “unlearning” or dealing with suppressed(in the sense of not being dealt with) memories and emotions.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_learning

          • Missionary Kid

            My parents passed through occupied Shanghai and across China and the battle lines to the Nationalist side before the U.S. entered the war. Then, in 1949, they had missionaries, who were. close friends and coworkers, killed just outside the city we were living in by Communists. They also lost a lot of Chinese friends and acquaintances in both conflicts. Two or three of the Chinese ministers that my father had helped to train committed suicide so that their families wouldn’t be persecuted by the communists.

            I didn’t put together that the screams and that moans from my dad in the middle of the night as I was growing up that woke me up were symptoms of PTSD, until relatively recently.

            • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

              One of my granduncles was a priest who barely got out on a plane before the Commies took over in 1949. He was a Maryknoll missionary in Taiwan for many years until he retired because he no longer had any sponsors to fund his work. His mother had gotten some of her younger friends to sponsor his work, back in the mid-60s before she passed away. 30 years later, they all were either deceased or soon to be, so he saw the writing on the wall.

              Here’s what Catholic schoolchildren used to read about, back in the good old days:

              https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/77/4c/ca/774cca0eedeb10df112d163a9d53eb64.jpg

              Maryknoll is a Catholic missionary organization, and in the 1950’s they published what I can only assume was a pulp adventure magazine full of tales of badass martyrs.

              https://www.pinterest.com/pin/475270566905739398/

      • Shane Weightman

        Thanks, I’ll check it out. They don’t come very often but it will be interesting to read about it.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        I have to agree with Missionary Kid, it IS PTSD. Absolutely. Is. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

        I suffer from it. I have to live my life around it and all the other crap that Scientology injured me with.

        I have nightmares too. And sad ones where I just can’t connect again with my friends and they are right there in the dream.

        Don’t discount. Scientology teaches you to minimise, to suck it up. Scientology can’t stand having people around who have difficulty, so it turns it around and makes you blame yourself and suffer in silence because you are not supposed to talk about your “case.”

        “Case” is anything about you that would make Scientology wrong. You are expected to keep that hidden.

        Stop buying into that and get some help. It is not lightly or out of exaggeration that we call Scientology a “mindfuck.” It messes very profoundly with one’s mental health.

  • Missionary Kid

    OT, but on another cult, many of the leaders of the polygamous FLDS (Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints) have been arrested on welfare fraud charges. http://www.sltrib.com/news/3571913-155/fbi-searching-businesses-in-polygamous-towns That’s the group that Warren Jeffs headed up and is spending time in prison for marrying off underaged girls, basically child rape.

    • Missionary Kid

      To add: I’d like to see the FBI also raid a little group called $cientology. There’s enough fraud going on there, too.

    • Kim O’Brien

      the DOJ has a case in court against the FLDS and the TOWNS and municipalities for conspiring to violate the civil rights of those who were not part of the church . For example …people being denied water hookup for their homes . The sheriff was given immunity ..and he testified that he had lied , under oath , because the church threatened to make his wife and children leave him ..cuz they were all part of the church ( irony )

      Court case just started …NPR was all over it this morning on my drive to work . Federal civil rights violations …from a TOWN . Because those who ran the town , and the town itself , was forcing it’s will and punishing others ..all based on their religious affiliation . Freaking brilliant case .

      • Kim O’Brien

        Colorado City , Nevada

        • Missionary Kid

          I believe it’s Colorado City, Arizona.

          This welfare fraud case is another attack on the cult. This takes out much of the leadership bigwigs, but there’s still a lot of faithful left, who are conditioned to be fearful of the government and the outside world, which they’ve been isolated from.

          IMO, this will have many similarities to what will happen when Co$ collapses, although it has a lot more money at its disposal.

      • aquaclara

        I admire the exes who are able to speak up. Finally, they can be heard. This is one very scummy cult.

    • aquaclara

      This is good. The FBI is following the money. The abuse of food stamps was even reported by former members (wives) who were forced to apply. I remember reading about this a few years ago. It looks like the government is finally getting serious about removing the power that this horrendous cult has had over the residents of Short Creek.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Possible clam alert.
    Jesse Cove is supporting this guy for LA Co. Supervisor. http://www.maloneforsupervisor.com/history
    10xlife? I’m used to seeing that posted by clams & Grant Cardone.

    Anyone know if he is associated with the CO$? I couldn’t find a link, but I’m suspicious.

    PHOTO CAPTION – “#malone for LA COUNTY SUPERVISOR” #10x #10xlife #vote #LA
    https://www.instagram.com/p/BB-bkUaTb4Q/?taken-by=jessekove

    • salin

      Curious as well.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      If so he should be outed for his clam cult ties.

    • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

      his bio is total clam-speak bollocks trying to pass off as normal

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Does he claim to be the youngest Eagle Scout in the UK? JK

      • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

        You have to admire his wordiness: “British Houses of Parliment in London” instead of Westminister Palace, and apparently able to be present in both Houses at the same time, or bilocation, which is probably means he’s at least OTVII.

    • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

      he’s obviously quite vain, look at the pic he used on another web-page… http://www.callpathfusion.com/ct-4602/

      …. also he’s a bit vague as to what “after several successful years in the entertainment field” actually entailed but I think I managed to track him down on imdb (see attached pic with arrow)… keep an eye on this guy for sure

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        LOL
        Dead Turd 2, I think I’d leave that credit off my IMDb page!

        The otherday when Kove posted this, I was looking at this guy’s info and thought a lot of it was vague in a sketchy Hubbard-esque kinda way.

        Here’s another interesting link:http://www.insearchofliberty.com/ 3 big clams trying to raise money for a right-wing patriot film. Going after the Trump supporters, no doubt. They’ve got some CO$ Whales on their “Honor Roll of Freedom Fighters” donor list and still have only raised $42,760 of the $1.2 million goal. Ha!

  • mon elle

    OT: Terrifying or Revolutionary?

    A custom pizza delivery vehicle …

    http://www.dominosdxp.com/

    • Supper Powers

      That is not how pizza should be made or shared with you.

  • daisy

    Good to see the Narconon in Mexico has Hiel Hitler salute down. Wonder how they are with the lockstep.

    • coonellie

      You have to go to Argentina for that part 😉

  • jazzlover

    OT: Watching Part 4 of the OJ series. Travolta certainly does let his botox hang out there, doesn’t he? Kinda makes the real Bob Shapiro seem less scary than he actually appeared over 20 years ago. Also, Schwimmer’s not convincing me as Kardashian. Paulsen, on the other hand, is great as Marcia Clark.

  • Cedilla

    “Ding”
    Shane Weightman @ 18:55,”Clearest moment of my life I just woke up. It was just like a “Ding.”

    Excellent.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Poor Debbie… schlepping that crap around for 11 years, thinking that it’s valuable.
    Here’s my best offer – take it to the landfill!
    (refresh for RazzLine ad)

    • Juicer77

      Need to sell: read – in a lot of debt because of the Co$ :(

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I was envisioning a sad CO$ financial situation like this:
        West Texas – lived in a house
        Houston – moved into an small apartment
        Port Arthur – now it is Chris Farley’s “van down by the river…”
        :(

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    Parents trying to bargain with Shane through an intermediary, because they can’t pick up the phone and call their own son. How the hell do they think they’re going to confront and handle the planet if they can’t confront their own son?

    • Shane Weightman

      That’s exactly what I said! If you have a problem with me, then call me….. don’t have somebody else talk to me…. (Hi Mom and Dad, call me!) lol

      • jazzlover

        Shane, you mentioned in the vid that you have brothers and sisters who’ve never been in. What’s their take on all of this, if you don’t mind my asking?

        Btw, thanks for sharing your story. I’m glad you came to your senses and made the choices that were right for you and your family. I really do hope that your parents come to theirs, and reealize that they only have one shot at this.

        • Shane Weightman

          Hi Jazzlover, my sisters and brother were actually in. One of my sisters was in the Sea Org in UK, my brother was on staff in Paris Org and my other sister did some basic courses.

          All three of them are out. All for different reasons.

          And my parent still speak to all of them.

          • Jimmy3

            …? That’s pretty cold. Is it because they keep quiet about it?

            • Shane Weightman

              erm… well….. let’s say that this is a whole other story that exposes the insanity of Scientology in a completely different way.

              It’s not really my story to tell, however, in my opinion, the actions they have done are worse than mine. So for my parents to disconnect from me… it shows their insanity.

            • Jimmy3

              Fair enough. Thanks for answering.

            • Eivol Ekdal

              Worse than the High Crime of the Suppressive Destruction of Official RTC Dissemination Packaging materials? I can’t even imagine.

              Thanks for your brave story Shane!

          • Cedilla

            “my sisters and brother were actually in”
            “And my parent still speak to all of them.”

            The never have spoke out then?

          • jazzlover

            Oh, ok. I misunderstood. Still begs other questions, but I don’t want to make you uncomfortable. Needless to say, you are special in their eyes 😉

          • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

            Ah. The Paris bOrg. The fraud. The attacks on protesters.

      • Jimmy3

        Are you AKA Shanester?

        • Shane Weightman

          no not me :)

        • Qbird

          IIRC, Shanester = Derek (but not our derek bloch)

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        Realize that he probably has less fear of calling you than he has fear of what his own church would do to him if he did.

  • scottmercer

    Here’s an extra treat for all the late night Bunkeroos! I just found out that someone wrote a Scientology song in this online song writing contest that I participate in, SpinTunes. COOL! Kind of a Bob Dylan type thing. Would Captain Howdy have liked it? Not sure. Anyway, here’s the link to The Story of Xenu and The Revolt In The Stars by Jailhouse Payback. Please enjoy. https://spintown.bandcamp.com/track/the-story-of-xenu-and-the-revolt-in-the-stars

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      nice!

    • MadMaxi

      A new song to play at protests and on stations in CoS towns!

  • Supper Powers

    I know this is over the top, but I have to share my analogy with any UTR that may be out there. Two different friends in two very different situations were brutally murdered in the last couple of years. Many UB folk know this and I’m not going to rehash it. My point is, I have witnessed and helped mothers; daughters, husbands, brothers and friends try to deal with pain. That anyone would willingly give up their child or mother for some make believe bullshit someone convinced them is true is criminal. Fuck you, CoS.

    ETA: Shane and Chrissie have real courage.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Ooh, I wanna housekeep for a WHALE!
    Maybe I can polish that “Diamond Meritorious with Honors” trophy!

    He just got his cert so it looks like dusting and vacuuming isn’t one of his newly attained Super Powers – bummer 😉
    (refresh)

    • Jimmy3

      “…enjoys flowing power to Powerhouse terminals.”
      … Sounds so dirty.

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    Oh, and I forgot to say Thanks! to Shane for going ahead with publishing these videos. Silence and secrecy are the oxygen of a mind-control totalitarian outfit like the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology, and freedom of choice and of speech is the antithesis of what the victims achieve in the Co$.

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

    lulz

    …. our resident clam-castle looney John Mappin retweeted my bollocks link… I wonder if he’ll actually go and have a look… and he obviously hasn’t seen todays post either, lol

    pic

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      LOL!

    • Baby

      Hhahahhaha.. OMG this is funny.

    • salin

      Mappin being ‘precious’ in his obtuseness.

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

    I’ve seen numerous shoops and references to the ‘Village of the Damned’ posted here in the past but I had no idea Krustie was actually in the movie….

    “After an unseen force invades a quiet coastal town, ten women mysteriously find themselves pregnant. Local physician Dr. Alan Chaffee (Christopher Reeve) and government scientist Dr. Susan Verner (Kirstie Alley) join forces when the women simultaneously give birth… and the reign of supernatural terror begins”

    pic

    • Jimmy3

      That’s the remake. I guess it was okay, but it’s not as good as the original.

      • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

        might be worth a look just to see if any Krustie gifs can be made

  • Susan B.

    OMG! I am laughing my ass off and tears are streaming down my face. The CO$ wants the rights to these videos turned over to them? CO$ actually asked for that???? Are you f uckin kidding me????? This makes me so happy and I’m just a lil ole never-in. Come on Dave. Get real. And getchur self a good career counselor cuz the fall of CO$ is gonna happen for sure.

    • Susan B.

      I just finished watching Part 5. Shane and Chrissie, you deserve all of the love you have found outside of Scientology and more. I hope some day Shane your parents will come to their senses. Thank you TO for another excellent day here in the Bunker. CS your service to ex-scientologists and those still stuck in the cult is awe inspiring.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Another Clam-friendly politician: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/scientology-news-reports-new-mexico-state-representatives-successful-fight-to-protect-children-300223697.html

    [New Mexico Representative Nora] “Espinoza learned about this urgent crisis from Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR), which met with the Representative and furnished her documentation that clearly outlined the effects of these harmful drugs”…

    …”The Church of Scientology has been at the forefront, taking action on this issue that is very important on both the local level and national levels,” she says. “What CCHR is doing is helping to inform and change this culture.”

    The bill was signed last year but they are touting her now for some reason. Probably because she’s running for NM Sec. of State. She sounds like a real piece of work: http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/legislature/rep-espinoza-preparing-for-a-possible-race-for-sos/article_d5ada2ac-c3aa-11e5-8086-23f3bbdebc66.html

    “This year she co-sponsored the controversial House Bill 55 that would allow business owners to refuse certain customers service if their sexual orientation goes against the owners’ religious beliefs. Espinoza and co-sponsor David Gallegos, R-Eunice, say the bill is meant to protect “religious liberty.”

    http://photos.prnewswire.com/prnvar/20160222/335651?max=1600

    • Jimmy3

      They don’t cite a single example of a child being taken away by CPS because they weren’t taking their ADD medication. But they introduced and passed this groundbreaking legislation to prevent this travesty from sort of allegedly happening. Everyone will now be safe from this certain apocalypse.

      You know what I think ought to be a law? I don’t think dogs should qualify for CDL drivers licenses. I don’t want a dog driving my kids’ school bus. Millions of people have reported that dogs and moving vehicles are often at a fundamental disagreement. And I don’t think they know what is going on or where to go and when to stop. Or what they’re even fucking doing. Let’s make a law that says dogs can’t drive commercial vehicles.

    • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

      It’d be worth checking out her affiliations, like the National Foundation of Women Legislators. They used to be heavily infiltrated by Scientologists. Later all that disappeared from their website, but no explanation of why.

  • $cnMonkeyNut$

    OT-Monkey been on holibobs to Egypt and remembered to bring Miss Lovely too… sunrise looking across the Red Sea/Gulf of Suez (F5/Refresh) (and a banana to the person who can guess where the MonkeyHouse {Africa} is!)

    • aquaclara

      Gorgeous….

    • Jimmy3

      The monkey house is in Madagascar.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Close… but no banana! Sorry Jimmy :)

        • Jimmy3

          No, that’s correct… There is a house in Madagascar. It was the oooohh oohh ahhh aaahh eheeheh ahhhh of many a poor chimp.

    • Juicer77

      MONKEY!!! You know Egypt is on my bucket list… Why didn’t you send up a Bunker signal!?!
      PS Awesome photos :) I can’t begin to guess where you are!

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

    • Juicer77

      OK, I’ll guess… Alexandria?

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        It’s a good guess Juicer… no banana though, sorry! (Edited)

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Lovely :) The top photo looking across the bay is great! Miss Lovely is at home in all surroundings.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Thank you Andrea, it’s a beautiful place and Miss Lovely is certainly comfortable anywhere in the world! (Edited)

  • moonnfire

    Wow that is some seriously heavy duty brainwashing. If anyone, let alone a church told me to disconnect from my kids, it would be them I would be disconnecting from. After all, what good is an eternity if you can’t share it with your children?

  • JaneJones

    Shane & Chris,

    As a now grown woman who was also raised from birth inside, thank you.
    I hope one day I too will have the strength to tell my family to fuck off at the end of that mind boggling call. The silent struggle is real.

    • Qbird

      It really is very hard to be a scientologist, JaneJones. Damn it.
      I am continually struck by what it is they put themselves (and their families) through,
      all for… what exactly??? Another course, another cert, another session, more cogs, another checksheet, another visit to the MAA, more write-ups, more b.s…
      Hubbard’s way of beingness & havingness sucks, it really does.
      It is not the way to happiness.
      Life is hard enough without that jackass LRH running you ragged.

      You can vent here if it helps Jane. I don’t know if venting (or sharing any part of your story) in the underground bunker will help you in your silent struggle, but this place never sleeps & people do talk to each other. They listen.
      You hang tough because you must.

  • daisy

    That guys seems to be covering or hiding his nuts pretty closely, Is he afraid they are going to hide them with the passports. You would think with all the key he as got he could find them if they go missing.

  • indie8million

    Ivan Obolonsky is out? Didn’t know.