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Australian media outs Scientologist behind ‘super city’ plans near Melbourne

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We want to thank our friends Down Under, who sent us news early this morning about an intriguing story breaking in Melbourne. Aussie publication The Age has revealed that there are plans for a “super city” development in a suburb west of town known as East Werribee, a massive development that will include huge residential towers and an educational hub featuring overseas universities. It’s meant to be an innovation hub built from scratch and flourishing in 20 or 30 years.

But hang on, The Age says, the businessman leading the company which has received “preferred bidder” status on the project from the local government, a man named Bill Zheng (pictured above), “has strong links to the Church of Scientology.”

That certainly got our attention. We’re always interested when media talk about “links” to Scientology. No one has “links” to Scientology. They are either in or they are not, right?

Well, Bill Zheng certainly looks like he’s in. With both feet.

First, a little more about the project in Australia. It’s to be built on nearly 1,000 acres that the Victoria government is selling west of Melbourne that currently features fields and old research laboratories. In August, The Age reported that a consortium calling itself “Australian Education City” was one of five bidders for the parcel, and that the actual company behind the consortium was something called Investors Direct. Now, Australian Education City has been named preferred bidder by the state of Victoria’s Finance Minister, Robin Scott.

“The consortium has promised a 1.5 million-square-metre city on the site with soaring residential towers and Australian and overseas universities providing an employment mecca it says will eventually provide 58,000 jobs,” says The Age.

 
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But there are questions about whether Zheng’s group can really deliver, the newspaper says. Just a few weeks ago, Australian Education City was worth only $16,000. Then, suddenly, it got a boost: “Company extracts obtained by Fairfax Media show that on November 20, three companies owned by six Chinese investors tipped $4.25 million into the business for a 1.7 per cent share, giving it an imputed value of $254 million.”

The Age reports that the consortium has until February to prove to the Victoria government that it’s really viable and can deliver on its ambitious plans.

In the meantime, we wonder if the government will look into Bill Zheng and his involvement in Scientology.

According to his online bio, Zheng had a long career at PricewaterhouseCoopers in “Australia, Hong Kong, China, USA, Canada & Northern Europe” before leaving the company to found his own mortgage brokering business, Investors Direct Financial Group, in 2001.

Checking the Investors Direct website about its leadership, we find that Zheng is its managing director, and Vivien Lin and Ross Martiensen are also directors. All three show up in online records of wealthy Scientologists.

According to Scientology’s own publications, Zheng completed the very expensive and very weird “L Rundowns,” which are only delivered at the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida, Scientology’s international “mecca.” (Zheng did L11 and L12 in 2009.) There’s also a Vivien Lin listed in Scientology publications who completed L10 and L12 in 2010. But to do the L’s, you have to be a rather high-level Scientologist, with years of involvement behind you.

Zheng and Martiensen show up in a 2012 list of Melbourne Scientologists as “Patrons” of the International Association of Scientologists, which means they gave the IAS donations of at least $50,000 each.

In August 2011, Zheng was listed as a contributor to the fund for construction of the “Super Power” Building (now named the Flag Building) in Clearwater with a donation of $35,000.

And Zheng also is listed multiple times at the website of Performia, a management consultant company that is a front for Scientology.

According to the story in The Age, Zheng’s companies have not used Performia since 2011. But today, Performia’s home page still features a prominent endorsement from Zheng. (Just two days ago, we published a list of WISE companies and individuals taking part in a book-selling contest, and Performia was leading the pack.)

So, Zheng does not have “links” to Scientology. Having done the Ls, and with substantial donations to the IAS and to Super Power, his involvement in Scientology is rather deep.

We’ll be interested to see if that matters to the Victoria government, a state which once banned Scientology after an investigation in the 1960s. After our own tour to that country just two months ago, we can say that the patience for Scientology there was worn very thin.

This should be interesting to watch.

 
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Arrest in Austin car crash into Scientology org

Yesterday, we noted that Monday night someone drove a car into the Scientology org in Austin, Texas. We pointed out that there appeared to be some reason to believe that it was an intentional act, and we said, “If you have a beef with Scientology, vandalism is not a viable option.”

Now, Austin media has reported that police have arrested Erin McMurtry, 31, for the incident. Workers at the org had noticed that McMurtry had been parked for about forty minutes nearby before she drove through the storefront and into some furniture inside. No one was injured. She then backed out and drove away.

We have no reason to believe that McMurtry is an active member of the Scientology watching community, but we did notice that last week she used her Facebook account to share video of Leah Remini’s 20/20 interview, and, a few minutes later, shared video of our appearance on Allison Hope Weiner’s Media Mayhem program.

McMurtry has been charged with criminal mischief of a place of worship, and faces 2 to 10 years in prison.

Again, we want to reiterate what we said yesterday: Vandalism is not a viable option. We don’t condone harassment or violence toward Scientologists or their facilities.

 
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  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    This report is now saying that Austin Police first went to Erin’s residence because her family requested a welfare check. That’s when they matched up the license plate number.

    Hard to believe she is making these statements to the police in her right mind. I hope her family has gotten her a lawyer – and a psychiatrist – Today!

    http://kutv.com/news/offbeat/woman-arrested-for-driving-car-into-church-of-scientology-called-church-evil

    • B4you

      there is this “place of worship” again! Grrr! It’s not a boat!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        yeah, I’ve steeled my heart at mention of scientology as a religion. It leaks out once in a while, but I used to aggravate all with my rants and stories about how and why scientology is not a religion, that they know they are faking it. But Tony has mended my ways – he has pointed out with that cool calm obsession he has with facts that it wastes space and time when it should be focused on the crimes and abuse.

        But must admit, the worship word made me spit my coffee. Hilarious.

    • ReallyMGM

      Cue the CCHR saying she was on psych drugs….

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        or if she was Off meds, then crickets

    • Robert Eckert

      “Hard to believe she is making these statements to the police in her right mind.” Even if you are completely innocent of anything, the only thing you should ever say if you are arrested and questioned by the police is “I need to speak to my lawyer first.”

  • Royce Harlow

    “…….. in a place of worship”. Bwahahahahahahahahhahaha
    Don’t condone violence though.

  • Bob Crouch

    I haven’t read through the comments today. So if I’m not the first one to spot this, bear with me…

    In the wake of the “Austin terror attack,” the “church” has, unsurprisingly, promptly taken its place on the martyr cross. Their argument is, naturally, predictable: All this hatred spewed by psych-sponsored, anti-scientology hate blogs (such as this one, of course) has borne its inevitable fruit. We are under attack. Woe is us.

    One would think that by the same logic this would deter them from posting hate videos filled with personal smears on their own “church” sites. But I digress…

    But there may be a much less dramatic explanation to all of this! Here is the most recent FB entry by the vehicular evil-doer. It reads:

    “We MUST make Travis County a dry county!!!! No alcohol for sale or to drink!! Alcohol is a waste of time for the human mind. It causes embarrassment, stupidity, regret, and physical and psychological ruin. We MUST eradicate alcohol!! No alcohol in Austin Texas!!!”

    Could it be that her heart was in the right place, but her head was just simply stupefied from too much intoxicating beverage intake? Never a winning combination when behind the wheel…

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Oh, please Santa. We’ve been good. Very, very good.

    “Barbara Walters Presents: The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2015 (9:30 p.m., ABC) – It’s been revealed that Bradley Cooper, Amy Schumer, Tracy Morgan, Ronda Rousey, Bernie Sanders, Misty Copeland and Donna Karan are all on the list — who will round it out? Bets on Caitlyn Jenner, Adele, Sarah Koenig, Martin Shkreli, the cast of Empire, Robert Durst, Donald Trump, the Duggars, Scientology’s David Miscavige or Kylie Jenner’s lips.

    http://citybeat.com/cincinnati/article-34255-for_your_holiday_vie.html

    • Observer

      She’d give him the puff piece he’d demand.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        and it would go deliciously with hot chocolate and cookies. In fact, how could SNL ignore the challenge to take it on? After Going Clear and on the heals of Leah Remini, it would be hilarious if Barbara did her usual puff piece on DM.

      • Sherbet

        Ain’t gonna happen, especially with all those other fame hogs on the list. Speaking of which, I’d love to know the deal the irrelevant (and possibly felonious) Duggars made with People mag. They continually grace the print and web versions with their weddings and wombs, as if they have something new and interesting to say. Is this a lifetime deal? Enough, already.

        • ReallyMGM

          I am so tired of those damned people. Just go raise all those kids and shut up about it!

    • Missionary Kid

      I’d bet against him appearing, but then, it’s Baba Wawa.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        oh not appearing – heavens to betsy no!

        • Missionary Kid

          She tossed soft balls to Cruise. I think she’d do the same to DM, and he’d love it.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            And the public, as well as the talk shows and late night anchors and hosts will have a field day with it.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m hoping he’d come on.

            • Sherbet

              Never. Anyway, he’s not exactly fascinating, and nobody’s heard of him, despite his bragging.

            • Missionary Kid

              The power he has over a few is incredible. I really do want him to be interviewed. The J&D on the ‘net would be priceless.

            • Sherbet

              I’m with you. I’d LOVE to see that interview. I just don’t believe he’d ever do it. Too busy, don’tcha know…

    • Haha! My home city’s free newspaper! Circulation 35,000.

  • Richard

    What does David Miscavige say when he plays poker?
    “I deal”
    .
    When Scientologists gush about their successes in the Org, do they have an Orgasm?
    .
    The “Hell” Rundowns:
    Hell10, Hell11, Hell12.
    .
    Last night, McMurtry did a crash course in Scientology. She shattered suppression.

    .
    If a reincarnated Scientologist can prove he served 50 years in the Sea Org in his past life, does that mean he only needs to sign a new 999,999,950 year contract?

    • Sherbet

      Oh, gosh, Richard has turned into the Bunker’s version of that laugh riot, Jim Meskimen.

      • Richard

        Are my jokes really that bad?

        • Sherbet

          You’ll have to wait until all the judges have cast their votes.

        • Missionary Kid

          I loved the McMurtry reference to the shattering.

          • Sherbet

            The Org one is pretty cute, too.

        • flyonthewall

          sherbet is just a pun bigot

    • These are great!!! “I deal” Excellent!! 🙂 All are great Richard!!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      That’s an excellent replacement for Pan. Thank you.

  • seriouslyWTF

    OT. From Twitter. Refresh.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      So this “thing” is so big that she has to write it down to remember it..? Seems legit.

    • Juicer77

      The cameraman keeps giggling in a very off-putting way.

    • B4you

      Like seeing a person high on drugs, they can’t explain it either!

      • B4you

        Imagine to work with this woman? When she calms down, she will fire you!

        • B4you

          That’s when they start to look for SP’s and BT’s

      • pluvo

        Yep. The “L-Rundowns” are confidential and talking about it is out-security, AFAIK

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      One of my fav Scientology Success Story vids. You don’t even need to have the sound turned on.

    • Mary Smith

      Can anyone comment about what she is talking about that have taken the Ls?

    • Captain MustSavage

      I feel like that after a few drinks.

  • Jgg2012

    “McMurtry has been charged with criminal mischief of a place of worship, and faces 2 to 10 years in prison.” Why don’t they just put her on Scientology’s mailing list?

    • B4you

      They should be happy about Bodies In The Shop! They are upstat.

  • Lucille Austero

    I, Lucille Austero, would like to invite you to join me in investing in the future of our guhlaxy. Future Lucille City will be a super-city innovation hub into the future. This future will be majorly great and extremely futuristic in all of its elements. Pictured below is a futuristic artist rendering of Future Lucille City, where thetans of the future will commune with each other and futuristically plan and then actually LIVE in the future. See the thetans, free of the past, combine together to create a better and much, much totally clearer future. Future Lucille City, where the future is clearly beginning to be the future. Yours for only eleventy-nine kabillion future dollars.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank you for the invitation. Question before I RSVP or not: Will there be futuristic size 6 pants and if so, will I be able to fit in them with my futuristic new ideal thighs?

      • Lucille Austero

        All of MY thetans are super futuristically skinny. I thought that was the way with everyone’s?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          RSVP 1 Attending. I will bring snacks of bacon buckets and wagons of sugar, kegs of vodka and a vat of chocolate.

          • Lucille Austero

            mmm mmm 🙂

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          Keep Skinny Working. Work it, girl.

    • Robert Eckert

      Yes, living in today’s complex world of the Future is a little bit like having bees live in your head– but, there they are! And like the young lady said, “I said live it, or live with it!” What does this mean?

      • Lucille Austero

        Then I have only one question: why are all of MY bees in my underpants???

    • Observer

      Will there be touching?

      • Lucille Austero

        As most people who are from or have been to the future will tell you, there is precious little touching there. In the future. Also, stupid yellow VM t-shirts completely do not go with my futuristic artist rendering at all. And moreover, as we fly into the future, we will be touching in the figurative sense of the word only.

        • Observer

          This is acceptable. Take my money!!!!!!!!

          • Lucille Austero

            Yes, little Observer, come closer into my org….

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              We’ve been wondering what you’ve been up to.

            • Lucille Austero

              I’ve had little time to commune with my Bunker pals, but I read Tony’s post every day. Much love to all here 🙂

      • Mockingbird

        I am touched already.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Ourselves or others?

    • Nat-leficent

      Do the robots there wear pants?

      • Lucille Austero

        I have purposely left out any mention of the pants-wearing robots. It was an editorial decision.

    • flyonthewall

      will there be work for struggling comedians/internet smart-mouths in Future Lucille City?

      • Lucille Austero

        I believe I can speak for the future when I state that there is much smartmouthing, but it’s so much more futuristic.

        • flyonthewall

          We can open a museum for old timey sass and smartmouthing, so future generations may learn of mutherfuckery, lulz, memes and vines etc. I will be its curator and head motherfucker in charge.

          • Enturbulated Masterbator

            You mofo!

    • B4you

      Can i bring my imaginary friend?

      • Lucille Austero

        B4you, your imaginary friend is already here, in the future 🙂

        • B4you

          Ohh shit! don’t listen to him! is a weird!

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Is there cats?

      • Lucille Austero

        The future is stuffed full of cats! Shhhh. You won’t even notice that they are *robots.*

        • Observer

          That was about to be a deal breaker (horribly allergic to cats), but the robot thing saved it!

    • Graham

      Will there be flying cars? Gotta have flying cars if it’s in the future.

      • Rasha

        Spandex jackets? One for everyone?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        And jetpacks

    • B4you

      I really hope there is WiFi

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      And underpants.

      Cannot forget the underpants.

    • Rasha

      (Sardonic pose) Hokey religions and ancient thetans are no match for a good nailgun at your side, kid. Just sayin’…

    • Ella Raitch

      This looks like the dystopian future of that Melbourne education hub after Scientology gets a hold of it and starts putting ethics in

    • Sell 0.0000005% of your company for $5, and you’ll have an imputed value of One Billion Dollars. /dr evil pinky

    • Jimmy3

      FFFFaaaaccckkkk! I forgot my Future Wallet!! Can I e-Pay You in Future Dollars tomorrow?

    • ze moo

      Stop sending us Terminators!!!!

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      I’ll pay you tomorrow for a hamburger today!

  • John McGhee

    Late to the party here, but is this Bill Zheng @ 4:25 in this most excellent video?
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iUSKjy3BgrI

    • One Human
      • John McGhee

        Ah OK 😀

    • JaxNGold

      Christ, it’s so difficult to get through these kinds of videos. The poor deluded saps have no idea they’re being played for fools. And all that LRH gibberish just kills me. Blech!

      At the beginning of the video, where AGP has footage of some crazy $cientologists spewing hatred and flinging bizarre insults, I cringed. Wonder if any of them have ever seen this footage? I’d be so embarrassed to watch myself act that way toward another person.

  • Observer

    I know the Leica cameras used by Joy Villa’s fiancé and sometime photo seminar scammer (hey, he’s a Scientologist) Thorsten Overgaard are pricey, but this was a bit surprising. I wonder if his are anywhere near this level. Screenshot from eBay:

    • ReallyMGM

      I just asked a photographer friend who uses Leicas. Here is his response: “Leica is always doing these rare special editions that only rich people with more money than brains collect.”

      ETA: They are pretty.

      • Observer

        Given Scientology’s taste for ostentation, I’d think this would be right up his alley. I bet he’d get it if he could afford it.

        • ReallyMGM

          Seeing his webpage with his Leica books and endorsements, he probably gets them gratis. I wonder if he shares with Davey?

        • ze moo

          Gold Mark 8’s anyone? Oh, they already have those…..

      • For that kind of money, you could get a Patron with Honors and be most of the way to a Patron Meritorious.

    • much rather have this one

      pic

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Statements Scientology did not make when driver charged with criminal mischief of a place of worship:

    Let us pray.

    Let us pray this child seeks redemption and help.

    Let us pray this lost sheep finds her way back to the true path.

    Let us pray and thank god, the ones we worship, no one got hurt.

    Statements Scientology did not make in public but were thinking:

    Let us prey.

    Let us prey and then sue this SP to the ends of the earth for everything she’s worth.

    Let us prey and hope she has crimes we can exploit for leverage.

    Let us prey on our sheeples and exploit this PR goldmine for everything it’s worth.

    • B4you

      Ramen!

  • B4you

    Regarding this “Worship” thing: This *Clapping* thing at LRH’s picture at the end of Roll-Call… Did all do that around the world? We thought it was an American thing and most just went along with it; day in day out, 2 times a day, 24/7 year after year.

    • pluvo

      It is still inwardly embarrassing for me, only thinking at it – and don’t forget the hip-hip-hurrays…. urgh!

      • B4you

        It was sooo Off! and nobody knew why we did it. LRH didn’t write about. At the end 2004, there was always this SO(B) who put down a note if you didn’t do it! I always clapped with one hand!

        • pluvo

          One of the cult characteristics is that the cult leader/guru is worshiped; that’s why.

          • It’s one of the few types of worship Scientology actually does, along with office shrines, and yet they deny it — before and after the rooster crows

            • B4you

              I remember some actually had a framed picture of him at home or at work! wtf?

    • chukicita

      I saw this happen once, at the Ft Harrison. I don’t think I was supposed to see it; I was being given a tour of Flag and there were false walls set up to contain some kind of book event being set up. My guide was trying to get me through some kind of hallway, and I think he opened the wrong door. There were a bunch of uniformed SO giving three cheers to a larger-than-life picture of Hubbard’s head on the wall. It completely creeped me out. My tour guide looked a little embarrassed, even.

  • nottrue

    Tommy trying out his Throne for when he becomes king of the new Super City….After the SP/Sec check you may approach. [ remember to kiss his hand ]

    • Robert Eckert

      Such a good friend to Davey, letting him tower over someone for once!

      • Ella Raitch

        Cap’n Dave is secretly seething that he is standing next to his number 2 sitting on the throne (and yeah, I went there with TC being ‘number 2’…he is, after all, a lying, deadbeat dad, sack’o’****)

        • daisy

          I swear to God, I thought the same thing. He even looks like he is seething but I couldn’t tell if it was his normal hidden snarl. It must kill him that Tom gets more attention.

    • daisy

      Door no. 3 please.

    • Supper Powers

      Tommy and the First Lady.

    • salin

      Aw, purple satin piping. Sort of like posing as Royalty.

      • Missionary Kid

        I originally read that as purple Satan piping.

        • salin

          That would fit, too.

          • Missionary Kid

            I was thinking devilish thoughts.

            Actually, that is not piping, but striping. Piping is, according to Miriam-Webster: a narrow tube of cloth that is used to decorate clothes, furniture, etc.

            Even though I don’t sew, It’s often seen on band uniforms, as well as fancy Western wear.

    • Tree

      If only I was good at photo shop I would put a red hat on the man in the princess chair and take the one standing beside him and put him in his lap. or just put an elf hat on DM and call it good he always looks like an elf or mr. peepers to me anyway.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Your wish is my command Tree! 🙂 (F5)

        • Tree

          Wow! Thanks! You made my day!!!

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Imagine the conversations.

  • Liberated

    Just bought some new reading glasses, had to go up a notch. Sorta bummed.

    • B4you

      soon you can get some 3d goggles, then you can download a notch!

    • daisy

      Aging sucks, but you get used to it. I need both near and far glasses . I break one of them every week , my optometrist thinks we are dating.

      • Mockingbird

        Aging is a privelege not everyone gets to experience.

        • daisy

          Yeah much better than the alternative. I can*t believe I made it out of my 20*s

          • Mockingbird

            Me too. The more life you get the more opportunity for happiness.

  • Supper Powers

    Do we have a Pan Baby yet?

    • Missionary Kid

      I’m sure he’ll let us know. So far, I haven’t heard anything.

      • Supper Powers

        Thanks. Thought I missed the announcement.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Still early

  • You mean all those Scientologists around and none of them could use their OT powerz to vaporize the car?

    • Mockingbird

      Maybe it was Xenu !! Or an OT who exteriorized !!

  • When I was about 22 I started thinking about what it would be like if Scientologists ran the world. What a scary thought that they even ever once came this close to owning a city.

    • pluvo

      Was thinking about that too – yes, scary. I was reading Orwell’s 1984 when being in the Sea Org and realized for a moment that there are parallels. The thought was hitting me like a stroke of lightening; and no one one to confide in. It was a lonely affair sometimes “thinking for oneself” and suppress one’s ‘thought-crimes’.

      • Thank you, yes. Thinking for yourself is indeed a lonely venture. I think we have all had those alarming negative thoughts about Scientology at some point and suppressed them. You almost want to slap yourself 100 years later when Scientology is a distant memory for ignoring those warning signs. Now when I have that feeling of cognitive dissonance, I take it very seriously and spend time meditating on the issue at hand.

        • Mockingbird

          Self reflection is absent in malignant narcissists like Hubbard and strongly discouraged in cults.

    • B4you

      ever had the thought that LRH idears was spreading out in society all by it’s self?
      naaaahhh 🙂

      • Yes! So many times. Every time someone talked about “wearing a hat” I thought it was Scientology making its way into the wide, wide world.

        • chukicita

          I can’t see the word “fully” without cringing. And I was never even in.

          • The word that gets me is “gotten”.

            • chukicita

              YES. Glad I’m not the only one. 😀 “The subject of” is another one.

            • Whenever anyone talks about “wearing hats”

        • Mockingbird

          He took the hat idea from others. He was the source of plagiarism.

    • chukicita

      I get that feeling every time I have to be downtown Clearwater.

  • Moonshot

    I am looking for investors. The building will be called Super Duper Power. My customers will run around TWO poles, not just one pole. The potential gain is infinite. I am only selling 100 shares. $1 Million each. It’s a steal.

    • Supper Powers

      What’s your address? I’ll send you a check.

      • OOkpik

        There’s a sucker born every minute.
        pic

      • Moonshot

        8808 Anti-Hubbard Way, Universtiy City Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. CASHIERS CHECK ONLY. No postal money orders accepted.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Aha! We in RTC have, at last, tracked down the infamous Two Pole Squirrel!

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        COB is potentially interested in using IAS money to purchase your Two Pole Tech if you come down to $750,000 per share and gift him ten shares.

        • Moonshot

          Due to contractural obligations to the other investors, less than $1 Million may not be accepted. However, your client COB and his 10 best buddies can run around the TWO poles FREE FOR LIFE. Also, free Super Duper Power Bars and Smoothies at the Snack Bar after each run…..

          • Moonshot

            However, if COB will refer 10 celebrites to invest in the project, I will pay him personally $250,000 each. Cash money.

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              $250,000 each for ten Church celebs? COB has already put them on a Church bus. They will be at your place in 25 minutes. Make the commission check payable to The David Miscavige Personal Betterment Fund, a 501(c)3 religious charity.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Is this clothing store one of your creations as well? (F5)

      http://www.bergensentrum.no/bilder/moods-of-norway-bergen-bilde-web.JPG

      • Moonshot

        Thanks for pointing that out, I can make a bundle sueing them for infringement……After i sick my PI’s and Fair Game squad on their owerners and executives, they will beg me to settle……

    • Sarah James

      If you call it Ideal, I’m in.

      • Moonshot

        That is PHASE II. All investors in PHASE I will have the opportuntiy to invest in PHASE II. Being such a Big Being, I will allow investors in PHASE I to invest in PHASE II before the first project is complete. Another steal.

        • Sarah James

          Already calling friends and family for money, credit cards will be maxed, second mortage in the works and I have a kidney for sale!

          • Moonshot

            Don’t forget the kid’s college funds, 401K accounts, paid for automobiles and boats, heirloom jewelry, or your employers corporate bank accounts you may have access to…..don’t limit yourelf here THINK BIG…..

            • Liberated

              Pull out all the stops—-Now!

            • Sarah James

              Wow, a lot to remember. Please tell me you have regs ready to do my thinking for me!

  • 9/11 first responders may get unlimited federal health benefits

    NEW YORK, N.Y. (NEWS10) — First responders who got sick after rushing to the World Trade Center on 9/11 or spent weeks cleaning up the site may get federal health benefits for the rest of their lives.

    I can hear the drool falling from here as CoS thinks of ways to tap that. Or… Can VMs apply?

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    And you thought that the fruitcake you received was a bad Christmas present…

    PHOTO CAPTION – “The way to happiness #company #thewaytohappiness #scientology #christmas #present #forclients

    https://www.instagram.com/p/_W7OQcn10U/?taken-by=viawoods

    • Wtf

    • Jimmy3

      pls
      u make them sop? pls

    • Sunny Sands

      The one on the right looks like the inspiration for the Black Rob thread on WWP “I have a Thetan who does things to my mirror”.

    • daisy

      LOL- I will never look down on fruit cake again, still laughing saw this 5 hrs. ago. At least it would stop the re-gifting.

  • Observer

    Look at the tweet she’s replying to

    https://twitter.com/kirstiealley/status/677279996650516480

    • flyonthewall

      big dumb potato woman! lol, that’s the best thing I’ve heard all week

    • B4you

      every birdbrain has it’s own beacon to tweet with!

    • what’sup

      • B4you

        This… F5

        • salin

          Love this.

    • Captain MustSavage

      Can’t see the tweet you mention. What was she replying to?

      • Observer

        Click on the link in the tweet

        • OOkpik

          Umm…cant’ see the tweet. 😉

          • Observer

            Weird. Refresh for screenshot.

            • daisy

              ( :

        • Captain MustSavage

          Thanks.

      • daisy

        It will probably not matter, she rarely makes sense anyway. It is nice for J and D purposes to have an inkling of idea though.

    • JaxNGold

      Umm, yeah Kirstie, you DO know the big, dumb, asshat woman. She’s looking back at you in the mirror.

      By the way, what tweet was she replying to? I don’t do Twitter.

  • Jimmy3

    this is my favorite christmas song

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S_TY8OCONA

    • Observer
      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        You two! I’m trying to imagine Christmas Carolers caroling down our street going door to door singing your Christmas songs repertoire. LOL

    • Ella Raitch

      You being fickle J-dog….I thought it was The Pogues…..

  • Sandy

    I have SO resisted sharing this during the last couple of days because I am embarrassed, but it is a cautionary tale, so I decided to tell my “sad” story.

    It was summer, a couple of years ago. I was wearing flip-flop type sandals. I pulled into the parking in front of my local Papa Murphy pizza joint. The bottom of my sandal caught under the brake pedal as I lifted my foot to brake in front of the store.

    My seemingly harmless Subaru rolled through the storefront of this friendly, neighborhood business. I smashed their whole front brick/glass store and my car stopped right before their counter. The employees & two customers were scarey scared (even tho it was in slow motion).

    I post this because – everyone wears flip-flop type sandals during the summer. Those things can make driving dangerous. The cops made me drive home barefoot.

    Later, I thought, what if I was pulling to a stop at a busy intersection instead. I will never drive in sandals again.

    • salin

      Sounds terrifying for you and for those in the store. Glad the damage to humans was nil. Must have felt like you were trapped in a nightmare.

      • Sandy

        It was just like that. I looked at the people in horror. I backed slowly out and just sat there …

        • Thank you for being honest. Cautionary tale it is, that might prevent more incidents.

    • Jimmy3

      Holy shit, that was you? Now I feel bad about calling up to complain that the chunks of glass on my pie were unseasoned.

      • Supper Powers

        Jimmy3, you are a real Bunker treasure.

      • daisy

        Holy shit that was you ? I got fired because you complained about the unseasoned glass chunks in your pie..pffft..

        • Rasha

          XD

    • daisy

      Good advise, I always drive in sandals. No need to up my accident stats, thanks.

    • And watch out for mud mats that can slide forward and get in the way.

      I guess you ordered that pie to go?

    • Jimmy3

      BTW – I’m sorry if you were offended by my joke last night. I was only trying to make you laugh about it, but maybe it sounded a little insensitive. I didn’t mean to be rude.

      • Sandy

        I wasn’t offended at all J3. I know it sounds kinda like a funny story. But, I ratted myself out cuz women all over wear sandals and drive – just something to put out there – ya know?

      • Sandy

        BTW – thanks for feeling you might of offended. So nice.

        • Jimmy3

          Alright then. I wouldn’t have said anything if you weren’t good people. 🙂

          • Sandy

            You are a really nice man, Thank you for being you.

  • OOkpik

    Please tap the “Recommended” heart at the top left of the comment section to show your support of The Underground Bunker and the tireless work of Tony and his great contributors.

    • salin

      I regret, I have but one recommend to give (per day) to the Bunker.

      • OOkpik

        Me too.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        If your browser has an ‘in private tab’ option, you get a second (as I will now demonstrate from 151 to 152, if you check my recommended history, you’ll see I’ve already hit the heart 🙂 )
        ETA: Ok, done flashing the heart (sorry)
        ETA2: No, not me just then 🙂

        • OOkpik

          You can also double the pleasure by tapping the heart before and after signing in.

          eta: I’m not too sure they both register, but it feels GOOD.

        • salin

          I use fire fox, and don’t see an ‘in private tab’.

          • Missionary Kid

            If you click on the three orange bars that are at the end of your address line, a drop-down window appears, with “New Private Window” Click on it, and a new window will appear. You can’t make comments while using that window, but you can click on the heart.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Jinx 🙂

            • salin

              Thanks to you both. (159 – that was my incognito vote)

            • Missionary Kid

              O.K., I’ll buy you a coke.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Thank you.

            • salin

              I see it now! Going to try.

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            No problems, if you go to the menu icon (three lines in the top right hand corner) and left click on it once, the FireFox menu will appear. In the middle of the top row, there will be an icon that looks like a mask with ‘New Private Window’ below it. If you click on this, it should open a new window which should allow another recommend (once you’ve navigated to the day’s story). 🙂

            • OOkpik

              Regretfully, it didn’t work for me.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              (to be honest, I don’t really know… I’m using Microsoft Edge! I had to google the firefox instructions 🙂 )

          • Missionary Kid

            Oops. those three bars to the right aren’t orange. They’re gray. They’re orange when you’re using Chrome.

            • salin

              You two gave me clear enough description to figure it out. Thanks, MK and $cnMonkeyNut$.

        • Rasha

          Full disclosure, that’s often me doing it, too. HEART CLICK OTAKUS UNITE!!

        • Supper Powers

          I’m a flasher, not a clicker. I have commitment issues.

      • Missionary Kid

        If you use your incognito or private setting, on your browser, you can click more than once.

        • I understand the sentiment, but respectfully disagree. We don’t need to falsify stats like scientology does, imo.

          • daisy

            I never thought about it that way, good point.

          • Robert Eckert

            I only click with my real name, not with my sock or as “guest”

            • Cool. I clicked with my sock, but only a few times.

            • salin

              I find it’s really hard to tap the right key with my toe. 😉

          • Rasha

            Rasha clicks just once, but does so with enthusiastic gusto. ^_^

            • Supper Powers

              I don’t click at all anymore. I don’t know what the point of doing so is. I’ve never seen where this place “trends” or whatever bc of the likes. Me no get.

            • Rasha

              MAKE HEART RED. LIKE UPVOTE ROCK. GOOD.

            • I wonder sometimes too. But still click most of the times. Apparently it increases the trend on Disqus/visibility.
              At this point, it probably doesn’t matter.

            • salin

              I don’t know for sure what it does – but I view it as an act of appreciation for Tony’s work, and for the commenters’ contribution. Like a daily hug. It appeals to the sappy part of me.

            • daisy

              I thought that too. I do it for Tony. I think of it as a gauge showing his increased readers.

            • Supper Powers

              (You’re the only person I “know” that can speak about herself in the third person and it doesn’t weird me out.)

            • Rasha

              <3 ^_^

            • salin

              Are you old enough to remember Bob Dole’s run for President? He was the first public figure I ever heard frequently speak of himself in the third person. Truthfully, I didn’t really notice til SNL did a skit about it. After that I heard it like fingernails dragged on a chalkboard.

            • Supper Powers

              Yes. I usually take it as a sign to a personality disorder. I know that’s not necessarily clinically true, but it’s a red flag for me to avoid them.

          • salin

            I did it just this once – now I have an understanding of how to browse incognito. It was in the service of personal education and growth.

          • Missionary Kid

            Good point. I’ll stop.

  • Captain MustSavage

    Austin org car crash? Elite godless left responsible.

  • outraged

    pic…

  • Robert Eckert

    How did I end up at the weird end of Amazon again?

    • Supper Powers

      Does that say “how to tell your boyfriend antichrist” in the URL bar?

      • Robert Eckert

        Yes. For some reason Amazon suggested to me a book called “How to Tell if Your Boyfriend is the Antichrist” and I had to click on it. So it goes on from there to suggest “How to Tell if Your Cat is Plotting to Kill You” and “I Could Pee on This, and Other Poems by Cats”

        • salin

          This gave me one of the best (at the absurdity) laughs of the day. Thanks.

          • Robert Eckert

            Honestly, I started out shopping for books I might actually want to get for friends and family but…

            http://www.kappit.com/img/pics/201508_1408_cicbf_sm.jpg

            • Ella Raitch

              I just got strange looks around the office for ROFLing (I swear, I only stopped in for a peek).

            • Funniest Youtube meme I’ve ever seen.

            • Mockingbird

              Truth revealed.

        • Jimmy3

          But is your boyfriend the Antichrist? What’s he doing right meow? Do you even know?

        • Mockingbird

          Well you do talk about Scientology. Hubbard is as close to an anti Christ as most of us will see, I hope.

    • Mockingbird

      The Oatmeal is quite good.

    • daisy

      I would read every single one of these.

  • MM

    O/T… Is it Thursday already?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9ePilqnsLs

  • Mockingbird

    FYI I just saw Critical Q & A #35 and it had an interesting idea. Chris Shelton said Miscavige absolutely hates being called Captain and having it pointed out that he is the only permanent captain in the Sea Org. He doesn’t like any way for people to show that he really runs the whole show. So I think we should make every effort to point out that he is a captain and the only captain and he personally runs the whole Sea Org !!!

    It should drive him crazy !! One inurement gravy train exposed ! Hi OSA ! You are always welcome to read my blog for stories on mass murder by Hubbard and Miscavige ! And so much more.

    Make sure you report to Captain David Miscavige, leader of the Sea Org, which really exists and runs Scientology.

  • Waiting for someone to show up here and destroy perfectly sensible convos. You know it’s gonna happen.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Hello! Is it me you’re looking for?

      • beauty for ashes

        Cause I wonder where you are….. Come on sing along with me. 🙂
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84RxK4N1wfE

      • Get out of my head, demon!

        • daisy

          Finally something musically we agree . I hate that song.

          • Err. Sorry babe, I like it.

            • daisy

              LOL thought Get out of my head , demon was for the song. Listened again, yup still hate it.

            • You are craving some metal, admit it.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd
            • Aww. Thanks!

            • Newiga

              Finnish metal… even better! 😉

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Early morning Bunker peek before work?

            • Newiga

              Yup. 😉 Morning coffee + the lastest happenings in Bunkertown are a great way to start the day.

            • daisy

              I liked that version.

            • daisy

              Dodo I only pretended to like it before, cause a good girlfriend will always lie.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Just for you, Daisy:

              https://youtu.be/bAqz0AwLRjk

            • Daisy is taking a nap, so I thank you on her behalf.

            • daisy

              Thank you LRH. I appreciate the shout out but I just don’t like Lionel R. Not sure why. Maybe too many handsy guys dancing to it in my youth. ( who am I kidding that is the only reason to like him) I listened anyway, yup still hate it. I like Shania T though

    • ReallyMGM

      I guess I did it with the cookie gratitude. 🍪

      • beauty for ashes

        Naw, I think he means trolls. No worries:)

    • aquaclara

      Hi, Dodo! Just checking in. What’s our topic? Cookies, kitties, toons or a cult?

  • ReallyMGM

    OT: Thank you Aussie Bunkerites for the TimTam recommendations. I finally bought a couple of packages tonight (chewy caramel) and they are YUMMY!!! My new favorite store cookie.

  • Anonymouse

    Am I the only one that finds it ironic and sad that this person is charged with the follwing : McMurtry has been charged with criminal mischief of a place of worship, and faces 2 to 10 years in prison.

    A place of worship?? Good grief….

    • daisy

      No it is much discussed in lower threads

  • Sweet Thursday.

  • edge

    Not advocating vandalism or damage to property, but I wonder what the charge would be if this person targeted a Narconon. Are faith-based rehabs (even those that claim their results and practices are based in empirical research when they clearly are not) considered places of worship?

  • salin

    In my grief, I have experienced much generosity. I am now walking into the space of emptiness after the Memorial, after people are so ever present. The quiet. Knew it would come. Miss Tia gave me some great wisdom yesterday regarding someone’s reflection of the effect of shock (numbing), and when it wears off – and suddenly it is harder than the initial month/weeks. Hadn’t thought of that, but am experiencing it.

    The kindness and support given to me in real life, and virtually here makes me think of a song from back in the 90s – that to me sent the message – any random person could be ‘God’, and unstated – our treatment of others – especially strangers, is a statement about us. A random person who has the same daily routines and baggage that we have in our daily lives is a person – deserving recognition (“what if God was one of us?”). Somewhere mixed in my natural cynicism and sarcasm, there is a divergent strand of compassion/empathy/appreciation for people. Got that from both of my parents. I thank you, I ask for your continued patience as I periodically write/share about this process, and I share this old video as I bid you good night. Peace – this is an incredibly compassionate and supportive community, and Tony sets the tone – every day.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gx1Pv02w3Q

    • daisy

      Finally a posted song I love. I would never thought of it as a message song. Now I will. I don’t like that you are having to go through this process, but I am learning a lot through you, mostly dignity and grace.

      • salin

        Thank you, daisy. Relish the joy, the absurd, and try to move past moments of frustration with your Mom (as the at-home daughter, I well know that those moments arise.)

        My Mom had much more dignity and grace than I do. Having spent so much time with her in this past 1.5 years – a bit of what I have now, perhaps, bled onto me from this time with her.

        One of the hardest things is balancing that she seemed to be getting stronger – and I thought we had more time together – with the reality that she had a great aversion to being partially or fully debilitated, and while I didn’t see it coming it was coming. Hard to be balance the feeling of wanting more time (that is now gone), with being thankful for the quality of time we had (we were traveling seeing family in Norway 1.5 months earlier, as an example.) Yep, the emotions are a bit messy and convoluted.

        So thankful that I don’t have cemented policies to follow, and am not subject to auditing or similar procedures that would attempt to ascribe the emotions associated with grief – to ‘overts and witholds’ needing processing, rather than a recognition that this painful but natural process of life.

        Thanks for your support, peace to you and your Mom. Glad to share the message I have always heard from this song – but that means more now to me than it did then.

  • I, for one, am disappointed to have an Australian real estate clam related story without CCorp and Carly Crutchfield etc.

    • salin

      Darn it, about to head to bed – and as a relatively newbie – you put attractive new rabbit holes dangling in front of me to chase down. Note to salin: chase down Carly Crutchfield and CCorp – at a later time.

      • I’m pretty sure you will thank me – Carly is good entertainment and her exploits well documented.

        • salin

          Just starting to look. There are a whole lot of disappeared pages about her. Like somebody has worked hard to do cleanup.

    • Tony Ortega

      There are some connections, reportedly, between Zheng and Carly. But I couldn’t find anything solid enough to include in the story. Perhaps someone else could nail that down.

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT. [all Caps from cut/paste; not shouted] ANIMAL TOTEMS

    ANT. COYOTE. LYNX. RAVEN. TURTLE. ARMADILLO. DOG. MOOSE. SKUNK. WEASEL. BEAR. EAGLE. OTTER. SNAKE. WOLF. BEAVER. FALCON. OWL. SPIDER. WOLVERINE. BUFFALO. HORSE. PUMA. SQUIRREL. BUTTERFLY. LIZARD. RABBIT. TURKEY.

    • Jimmy3

      This is the most off-topic, most randomly nonsensical post in Bunker history. And it gave me the laughs.

      How are you, MaxSpaceman?

      • MaxSpaceman

        Find yours.

        Mine is Owl.

        • Jimmy3

          I’m an eagle otter. I will eat your owl totem. How do you respond?

          • MaxSpaceman

            How indeed.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        It does mention Squirrel that’s almost on topic!
        Weasel and snake are corollary topics!
        Also, horse could be on topic if we’re talking about Jenna Elfman!

        • Jimmy3

          All of the animals could be represented. But how do you think MaxSpaceman is doing?

          • MostEthicalPimp

            I am worried about the health of anyone who doesn’t realize that when you copy and paste from a msg in all caps your coping the other persons shouting! It’s not like you can’t go to http://decapitalize.eu/ if you don’t want to shout.

            • Jimmy3

              I was worried about your health and that you may be juggling too much, but now I’m just more worried.

      • Robert Eckert

        “2totheMax” said he was the new incarnation because the “MaxSpaceman” account was inaccessible? If the problem was just forgotten password maybe this is Max back (profile is not suspicious-looking in any way)

  • came across this on imgur… the kids are getting it

    pic

    • Jimmy3

      Terrible.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Do you think that Tom Cruise and Alex Gibney are both going to show up at the Critic’s Choice awards? They are nominated: http://www.criticschoice.com/movie-awards/

      • Ella Raitch

        If MI wins over Mad Max it would be a travesty

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          I hate to admit it but I hated Mad Max:Fury Road even though I love Tom Hardy. I thought MI:5 was pretty good even though I detest Tom Cruise. They’re the only 2 films I’ve seen in that category. This year I’m rooting for anything without a clam in it. Going Clear excluded. 😉

          • B4you

            Tom Cruise was so great in Going Clear – Best performance EVER!

          • Ella Raitch

            Tom Hardy is marvellous…he’s forgiven for not being Austalian. It may make a difference knowing a lot of the Australian actors who played smaller roles (Angus Sampson, John Howard, Richard Carter). Short on narrative, but barren and audacious

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    What did the church say about Leah Remini? Something about her trying to get attention and stay relevant or something like that. It looks like she was successful – at least in California!

    “What Each State Googled More Than Any Other State In 2015” http://blog.estately.com/2015/12/what-each-state-googled-more-than-any-other-state-in-2015/
    (refresh)

  • B4you

    I wonder what elle is getting from Santa this year?

  • B4you

    where is everyone? x-mas shopping on amazon IRL

    • 9001

      Merry Christmas.
      I’ve just woke up with a hangover.
      Off to fix my pal’s laptop now.

      • B4you

        Thanks and back at you!

  • Tory Christman

    977 comments/ 198 clicked on the heart above, turning it RED. If you haven’t,
    can you please do so? I moves the Bunker up in ratings, as far as I know. (It’s right
    under “Comments” on the top left). 🙂 Happy Shopping! <3

    • Margie8

      I had no idea. Thanks, Tory! 💙

  • Tory Christman

    $cientology’s famous “Cities”. I was there in Clearwater, FL when they took it over. The town HATED them.
    They moved in, slimed the Mayor (http://tonyortega.org/2015/02/06/scientology-vs-the-mayor-the-full-gabe-cazares-interview-from-1997s-secret-lives/comment-page-4/) and just keep on.

    I heard a few years ago
    From someone who made me promise to never say who said this (“As I am afraid for my life”) that there is also a HUGE city being built in South Africa.
    Now Melbourne? “dave”: You can RUN…………..but you CANNOT HIDE!
    Tick Tock 🙂 And Merry Christmas to all here!!
    Tory/Magoo~Your local, friendly SP!

  • red_spherical_object

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf_UDw2zHQw I was born in Werribee. I was originally filled with dread but then I looked at the designs and realized I was looking at what’s on the other side of the Bridge. That won’t get off the ground.