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Lisa McPherson in Orlando: What her hotel roommate witnessed, and the Slaughter rule

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Lisa McPherson woke up the morning of November 16, 1995 looking like hell. She had hardly got any sleep overnight in her Orlando hotel room, which she was sharing with her friend and fellow AMC Publishing employee, Brenda Hubert.

Brenda was already very concerned about Lisa, someone she had known longer than just about anyone who wasn’t in Lisa’s family. They had met around 1982, when Lisa first got into Scientology in Dallas, and then they became close as they worked together at the Atlantic Financial Mortgage Corporation, a company owned by another couple of Scientologists, David and Bennetta Slaughter. In 1989, after Lisa had come back to Dallas after a short and unhappy stint in Scientology’s Sea Organization in Los Angeles, she moved in with Brenda, and then the two of them went to work for a man named Jeff Schaffner, who had come up with an idea for selling information to insurance brokers. That company eventually became AMC Publishing, and it moved to Florida at the end of 1993.

Lisa was AMC’s top salesperson, earning $136,000 in 1993, but by 1995, Lisa’s sales and income were sharply down, and she’d admitted to Brenda in June that she was having suicidal thoughts. Lisa took a leave of absence from her job to spend several weeks at Scientology’s Fort Harrison Hotel, and then had seemed to be back to something of her old self when she showed up at Brenda’s house for her husband’s birthday party in August.

But now, in November, Lisa was exhibiting strange behaviors and it had Brenda very concerned. The day before, on Wednesday, November 15, Brenda heard from Katie Chamberlain, Lisa’s ethics officer, who told her that Lisa was in the middle of a Scientology process that she was struggling with, and asked Brenda to “8-C” Lisa — to monitor her closely.

That first day at the Orlando conference, for the National Association of Independent Life Brokerage Agencies, Lisa had acted strangely several times. Twice, Lisa had called over waiters during their meals to implore them to read Dianetics, and Brenda had to laugh it off as a joke as the waiters looked concerned. When they got to the hotel, Lisa had turned her luggage upside down and tossed her clothes around the room, saying she was looking for something, but couldn’t say what it was. But when she went down to help out at the conference registration desk, she was leaning over the counter, seemingly oblivious that she hadn’t put on a bra with her scoop-neck blouse, and Brenda realized what was going on when she noticed a line of ogling men waiting at her counter. When Brenda pulled Lisa away, Lisa, who wasn’t the type to be such an exhibitionist, didn’t seem to understand what Brenda was talking about.

Now, on Thursday morning, Brenda braced for what the second day at the conference might bring as the two of them joined the other AMC employees at the show, Craig Burton and Brian Rakestraw. At the end of breakfast, Lisa started asking where her hotel room was and how to find the elevator, and Craig thought to himself that this wasn’t an act. Lisa was losing it. How was she going to be that night, when AMC was hosting a hospitality room for their clients?

That evening, Bennetta Slaughter arrived at the conference to check on her employees. Bennetta had met Lisa at the Dallas org in 1984 or 1985 and had employed her at the Atlantic Financial Mortgage Corporation before she and her husband David moved to California for several years. Then the Slaughters returned to Texas and became partners with Jeff Schaffner some six or seven months after Brenda and Lisa had already started working at the company. It was Bennetta and David, both wealthy and longtime Scientologists, who came up with the idea of moving AMC to Clearwater at the end of 1993.

Here’s how Janet Reitman, in Inside Scientology, described Bennetta Slaughter:

Slaughter, a tall, handsome woman with a cascade of wavy dark brown hair, had an unmistakable air of power — or what Scientologists call “purpose”…[She] wasted no time in Clearwater. Within a few months of her arrival, she’d ingratiated herself with the Clearwater Chamber of Commerce, and begun to network with local politicians. “We called her the Queen of Clearwater,” said Sandra Mercer, who’d moved to Florida from Los Angeles in 1990. “She put herself on all the political communications lines, on all the business communication lines…on every communication line that she needed to get on. Had she not done that,” Mercer added, “I don’t know that the church would have done that well in Clearwater.”

David Miscavige knew Bennetta Slaughter as a prominent donor who attended yearly Scientology events in England and on the church’s exclusive cruise ship, Freewinds. Now the leader of Scientology began to hear that she was making inroads into Clearwater society. Miscavige became concerned. For all its efforts, the official Church of Scientology had very little relationship with the mayor’s office or the city commission, and it had an openly antagonistic relationship with the police. Miscavige ordered Tom DeVocht, a senior official at Flag, to find out what Slaughter was doing. “Make sure that she’s forwarding our purposes,” he said.

Scientology had invaded Clearwater with its “Project Normandy” in 1975, buying properties under the fake name “United Churches of Florida.” In 1978, when the press began reporting the lengths of Scientology’s covert operations not only in Clearwater but also with infiltrations in Washington DC, there was a loud backlash in Clearwater as the town began to wonder about the “church” that had taken over much of its downtown. But now, in the mid-1990s, Bennetta Slaughter was exploring a more civic-minded way that Scientology could co-exist with the rest of Clearwater, and DeVocht tells us that Miscavige increasingly decided that she was right.

Talking to us this week, DeVocht said that Bennetta’s efforts were helping as Scientology continued to expand its footprint in town. “Bennetta Slaughter was big time on the local scene in Scientology. At that time, we were trying to get a new building, and she was meeting with local officials about it,” DeVocht told us.

On Friday, we talked to Marc Headley about what he witnessed, that in 1995, David Miscavige was looking for any way to increase revenue at the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, even to the point of obsessively involving himself in the individual cases of “nobodies” like Marc’s stepfather and Lisa McPherson.

In our story yesterday, we talked to DeVocht about how he personally watched Miscavige “case supervising” McPherson’s auditing, and Tom said that Miscavige acted like Lisa was a special project. DeVocht suggests that, beyond what Headley witnessed about raising Flag’s revenue stream, Miscavige also may have paid special attention to Lisa’s case because of Bennetta Slaughter.

“Lisa worked for Bennetta, and Bennetta was a big donor,” Tom said.

Whatever his reasons, Miscavige pushed McPherson through Clear in September, but soon enough Lisa was again acting oddly and seemed distraught.

And after two long days at the Orlando conference in November, things were going to begin to get really bizarre.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

This is a photo of Scientologist Sarah Ehrlich and her children, and it was taken by actress and Scientologist Denice Duff. Other than that, we don’t know what to tell you.

 
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Hey, girl. That’s right, Sean Dernehl again. Not only am I the new mission holder in Ocala, but I recently went through L10 Rundown, perhaps the single most expensive course in Scientology, which can run to $99,000 just in processing, not including accommodations and donations. Check me out.

 
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Hey, girl. Got a drug problem? Come dry out with me in Sweden.

 
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Let them eat caek! Here’s Scientology whale Tom Cummins at a “Russian Ideal Org fundraiser event for Puerto Rico at the Fort Harrison Hotel.” Got that?

 
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BOOK NOTES
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We didnโ€™t get a chance to include photos in our book, so weโ€™ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Our book tour is concluded for now. (But you can re-experience it through this nifty interactive map!) We’ll let you know about future appearances. Previous events: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4), Boston (8/24), Phoenix (9/15), Cleveland (9/23), Minneapolis (9/24), Portland (9/27), Seattle (9/28), Vancouver BC (9/29), Sydney (10/23), Melbourne (10/25), Adelaide (10/28), Perth (10/30)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 16, 2015 at 07:30

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  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)
    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I’m so pleased for them. Anette wrote: “I grow a baby, what’s your superpower?” ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Sunny Sands

      Congrats to Geir and Anette (they’re expecting).

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Ah, good news. We could use some of that today. Congratulations to mom and pop.

  • A Puerto Rican Ideal Org in Russia. Got it.

    • flyonthewall

      ay caramba!

  • Science Doc

    Just came back from pushing my walker around the block and there are Secret Service agents in the yard. News crews in the street. Oh. Biden.

    • Sherbet

      No, we told ’em to keep an eye on you and your recovery.

    • flyonthewall

      Science Doc just completed a marathon walk around the block! Tonight at 6p est!

      • Supper Powers

        Butt head! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • ze moo

          Thank you Bevis…..

      • Science Doc

        I also didn’t eat or sleep for four days.

        • flyonthewall

          Tune in to find out how this magnificent bastard with ox like strength and resilience was able to not eat or sleep for four days following major surgery! Here’s Tom with the weather

          • Rasha

            Tom: You don’t know the history of weather…..

        • Illinoisian

          Oy.

        • Rasha

          ..hopefully, your walk has made you tired enough to GET SOME DARNED SLEEP!!!! Very important.

          Super happy to see you, though!!!

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          That does not sound like fun.

    • Supper Powers

      Glad you’re moving around.

    • Eclipse-girl

      nice to hear from you.
      take care of yourself

    • daisy

      Glad to see your up and about so soon.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      That was sure nice of Biden to stop in and do a wellness check. Obviously, you rank! Good to hear from you.

      • Science Doc

        I think he has the Mayor on his dance card.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Bwahahaha

    • Illinoisian

      Wow! You are back at home and back at the keyboard . . . and you discover the Secret Service in your yard? Because you pushed your walker too close to Biden?

      • Science Doc

        That’s one way to tell the story.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I see downthread – no food and no sleep for four days. So, are you saying you ARE Biden and, um, the men in the funny coats are outside your doorway? (Just checkin’) ๐Ÿ™‚ If so, use the secret code to answer. I have my Annie Oakley ring.

          • Science Doc

            I’m Bernie Sanders AND Donald Trump. Ever see them together?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Woh – As a matter of fact. Woh!

            • ze moo

              Bernie has better hair. Larry David’s imitation on Saturday Nite Live is sooooo good.

            • Missionary Kid

              When I read Science Doc’s comment, my first thought was, “Bernie has better hair.” He’s also not a batshit crazy entitled jerk, who thinks that he’s always right.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Doc! Glad you dropped in. Folks here have been asking about you. Good to hear you’re on the road to recovery, but don’t go trying to outrun those Secret Service agents just yet. Hope you heal up quick…

    • Missionary Kid

      Good to hear from you. Being mobile is what will help your recovery. I hope you heal well and fast, but at your age, Younger than mine, but middling, it takes longer to recover.

      Did the SS Agents check your walker for hidden weapons?

      • Science Doc

        To make matters worse, I have a very large brace belted around my lower back and abdomen.

        • Missionary Kid

          Owwie! Great courage.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh it is so good to hear from you, Science Doc! I was beginning to worry…

  • Wait so Tom Cummins is reenacting the Cuban Missile Crisis?

    • Laura Lou

      While dressed like Liberace without the whimsy.

    • Rasha

      I’m holding out for the Batley Townswomen’s Guild version. Their work is far superior.

  • Science Doc

    It’s been real tough. The only reason I’m walking is they make you do it. I’ll write a report tomorrow if traffic is slow enough for some OT.

    • It’s always slow enough to hear the progress of one of our own.

      • Science Doc

        Thanks. I’ve been through the ringer before, but this one was really hard.

        • Madison KinSmed

          Sending healing thoughts your way, Doc. It’ll get better. Be sure to take your pain meds as prescribed to stay ahead of the pain. (((Hugs)))

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Definitely keep walking – there is a reason they make you do it, and that is to help you heal faster and keep fluid out of your lungs to boot.

      • Science Doc

        Yea. I started down the pneumonia exit in the hospital and had to suck on a spirometer all night with ice packs under my armpits.

  • nottrue
    • Lucille Austero

      Oh eff me. There are pics of supposed RPFers and they are mostly middle-aged to later middle-aged persons doing manual labor (weeding, etc). So sad.

  • Jeb Burton

    Come on Sarah, how can a baby have the scientologist eyes? That look they have, i see in Clearwater when I go downtown, and I try to explain the scion look to my friends and they dont know what I am talking about. Now all I need is this photo to tell them what I am talking about.

    • Chee Chalker

      This baby is confronting and shattering everything in her path…..she is a powerful thetan, until she joins the Sea Org, her parents are declared for not bowing when Miscavige walks by and this powerful OT baby disconnects from everyone!

    • ze moo

      The baby has gas or is ‘pinching a loaf’. The rest have that Kool-aid smile eyes of doom, doom I tell you.

  • sugarplumfairy

    The Erlich family stare.. Even the baby has mastered it.. Does scientology audit the crap out of babies too?

    • Eclipse-girl

      Isn’t that what Mace – Kingsley does?

      • salin

        *shudder*

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Don’t get me started ๐Ÿ™

    • Yes. Scientology has a “put that body in that bed” assist where you just stand there and tell a baby to “put that body in that bed”….”thank you”. Over and over again until they stop crying. They also do touch and nerve assists. As soon as a child has a halfway decent comprehension of the english language they are expected to take Scientology children’s courses and start getting auditing.

      • eloise

        I…………I……….cannot comprehend this. This makes me want to vomit.

      • daisy

        They stop crying only because neglect teaches humans to self sooth.

      • Lucille Austero

        Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhh.

        • Eclipse-girl

          So nice to see you.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Gaaaaaaaaaaaadammmmmuuuuuuttttttttttttttttttt

      • Ella Raitch

        This must have been what was happening to Suri at the wedding (as described in Leah’s book).

      • Rasha

        …because, of course, Scientology knows no limitations, especially the lowest kind.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Jeeeez.. Babies should just be allowed to be happy babies..

    • In fact Elron invented this whole recipe that uses barley to make a formula for babies that is Scientology approved. My brother was raised on that stuff.

    • daisy

      Is it my imagination or do scions have either the biggest toothy, unnatural smiles or look like they are passing a hard turd.? They seem to have no relaxed normal everyday poses.

      • Rasha

        (L Ron voiceover) “Well, this is very interesting. “Scientology” is made of the words, similah to, ‘smile-o’, meaning ah, rictus, and ‘log’, meaning ‘numbah two’, doncha see… ah, so, well, what you have is the, uh, ‘Science of Crapping Sideways’…” (creepy grin)

        • ze moo

          So he really did pull everything out of his ass!

        • daisy

          Creepy smile emoji. ( if there is such a thing )

          • Rasha

            Nothing matches the sheer awfulness of King Leer….

    • Jimmy3

      I won’t let that baby haunt my nightmares. I just won’t sleep.

  • daytoncapri

    For those interested in my current conversation with elle: She claimed to have not ever posted on the Bunker site, but is she mistaken. Here’s a screen shot from 5 months ago. Unlike her current style, she has a sweet, friendly tone in this early exchange. The banter is a bit banal.

  • I was introduced to Bennetta and David Slaughter in Baton Rouge, around 2005. They were mission holders there, meaning they started that mission (and many others too). It was very brief, just business. I think they just came by to check on how things were going. They probably used to make a lot of FSM commissions.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Donโ€™t know if any of you follow Mike Rinderโ€™s blog, but the other day he had a post regarding Mariette Lindsteinโ€™s debut novel โ€˜Sekten Pรฅ Dimรถnโ€™ (โ€˜The Sect On Fog Islandโ€™). She is married to Dan Koon, and they live in Sweden. Iโ€™ve just finished reading โ€˜Fog Islandโ€™, and I must say Iโ€™m amazed that this is her DEBUT novel.

    Her writing is great, and she manages to capture the way a sect/cult will draw someone in, and make them do and tolerate things one would not otherwise even consider. In one television interview, I saw with her she said that if she were to write about the things she herself had gone through in her 25 years in scientology, nobody would believe her. So she decided to write a novel about a fictitious small sect based on an island just off the coast of Sweden. The book is 500 pages long, and with rather short chapters, she manages to show, how over time people can change into โ€œmindless robotsโ€ that will accept anything they are told.

    Anybody who knows scientology will see that this is where she gets most of her influence from, but at the same time she doesnโ€™t go too overboard on the craziness โ€“ just enough to keep it believable. There are some exciting twists and turns, a side story that is just as riveting, and an enjoyable ending.

    There is, according to Mikeโ€™s blogpost, most likely going to be an English version of the book in the future, but I SO wish anyone interested in the book could read it in Swedish, which is my one of my favourite languages, second only to French. For me it conjures up an Ingmar Bergman feel to it, and Iโ€™m pretty sure this could be made into quite a riveting film.

    Obviously, Iโ€™m not much of a book reviewer, but I just wanted to let you know to look out for this book when it comes out in English ๐Ÿ™‚

    (F5)

    • flyonthewall

      shaken or stirred, Mr. Tank?

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Stirred, thank you! Were not savages over here ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Juicer can attest to my specific preferance for Martini’s.

          • Laura Lou

            Martini Smoothies sound like a delightful and profitable cottage industry to start.

            • Rasha

              Martini Gummis sound even better, but that’s just me. Everything’s better in a gummi.

        • flyonthewall

          *gasp* Are you calling James Bond a savage? Well I never, hmph!

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            I’ll admit: “Shaken, not stirred” is his one flaw.

            • flyonthewall

              ahh, I don’t know anything about drinking. I was going to do a shot of whiskey yesterday but chickened out. Why would you want to drink something that tastes and smells like gasoline? *shrug*

          • Missionary Kid

            Supposedly, Fleming knew nothing about mixing drinks, but he made up the line to make Bond appear like he did.

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            Oh, absolutely-didn’t you know he’s a most dreadful bounder, bordering on caddishness ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Missionary Kid

          It turns out that, according to his friends, Ian Fleming knew nothing about mixing drinks, so he made up the “shaken, not stirred” line.

          Shaking up the drink with ice cools it faster, but it also dilutes the alcohol more. A short shake would be the same as stirring the drink. An experienced bartender, I believe, would be able to know how long to shake it. (Maybe only once?)

          I like my Margaritas with ice, not like its done in many places that have blenders that turn them out mechanically.

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Shaking it also makes the drink somewhat opaque – I like mine clear as crystal, with a lemon twist..

            • Missionary Kid

              Just pouring the drink into the alcohol and out would have the same effect, I believe. You’ve right about shaking a drink adding bubbles, even microscopic ones.

      • Laura Lou

        What are we, farmers? ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • salin

      Thanks for the recommendation. I look forward to the translated version.

    • jane456

      I hope you will keep us posted on future translations. I love this idea. I think that fiction is a way that people can process things which may be too difficult in a telling of factual events. People get trauma overload when people just report horrific events and they seem to shut down.

      Tatum O’Neal’s son did something sort of like this, he wrote a fictionalized account of his grandmothers life. Please, do post anything you know. I would love to get this book.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        I’ll do my best to keep you updated.

    • Captain MustSavage

      Upvote for the martini!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I would love to read it in Swedish but first I would need to learn Swedish, darn it!

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Totally worth it ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Missionary Kid

          My one phrase I used when I was in Sweden, visiting my cousins, “Jag talar inte svenska”

          For the rest of you, it’s “I don’t speak Swedish.” My parents never taught us kids Swedish.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I like that chilled vodka too

  • jane456

    The Adams family minus the charm and wit. Ughhh…

  • Libertylover

    I noticed a couple of new Tom Cruise pieces coming out and on twitter.
    Look at my muscles, I’m a regular guy stuff. This piece at the Daily Mail sums it up best.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3321077/Tom-Cruise-shows-impressive-arm-muscles-star-Cobie-Smulders-set-Jack-Reacher-sequel.html

    • flyonthewall

      Bulked up muscles, huge puffy face, enlarged heart, liver and brow? Yep, Tom is on Human Growth Hormones. I blame Sly, he’s a bad influence

      • Libertylover

        I was thinking that! You think he’s roiding up? Tom’s unresolved childhood problems too. He always thinks he’s getting bigger, better and improving. He’s not going to be able to handle getting older very well at all.

        • One Human

          And likely shorter.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            and bigger feet. and nose. Mother nature has one twisted sense of humor, I tell ‘ya.

            • One Human

              That’s why the eyesight starts to go too.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        enlarged brow? really, it does something to the brow? I’m not familiar with that stuff and all it does, but one thing I noticed, whatever is going on, it looks like it might seriously be messing up his thyroid. Not good. Do roids bombard the thyroid too? It is very weird looking.

        • outraged

          His eyes are disappearing.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            That’ll happen when your face is puffin’ up.

        • flyonthewall

          that’s only what I heard, that it basically turns you into a Neanderthal. Idk if it’s true but it sounds funny so I’m going with it

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            He’s getting there.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            This will require an entirely new checklist for Tom Cruise Wife Auditions.

            • flyonthewall

              it’s Rae Dawn Chong!

        • beauty for ashes

          Also causes gynecomastia (manboobs).

      • Laura Lou

        Agreed, in addition to fillers/botox. I mean, look, there’s only so much the body can naturally do at the age of 53. I’m sure he’s kept himself in shape over the years, but PLS. Not every guy is Jack LaLanne. Steroids are ridiculous for men to do, considering the effects it has on their sexual capabilities – esp. a guy like Cruise, who apparently can’t keep it in his pants.

      • Missionary Kid

        Sly claims to be 5’10, but other reports and comparisons put him at 5’7″. http://www.celebheights.com/s/Sylvester-Stallone-347.html

        • Laura Lou

          The unspoken rule is that any leading man actor who claims to be anything less than 6′ is lying by about 5 inches. (Character actors don’t do this)

          • Missionary Kid

            Some of the comments about his height are funny. Kelsey Grammar said, Sly was a great guy, “Except when he changed the camera angle a little bit to make me look shorter.”

            • Laura Lou

              LOL – case in point. Kelsey is unquestionably 6’1″

        • ze moo

          Those pics show him with Cobie Smulders, she is 5’7”.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Look at all that running he does in the video clip. It looks brutal – BRUTAL!

    • outraged

      Here we go:

      • Rasha

        Tom, seriously. Embrace your age. It shows, anyway.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        How can you have muscular arms AND bat wings? I’ve never seen that on a physically fit guy before.

        • Ella Raitch

          That IS bizarre

    • Ethan

      Just thought I will update my biggest fans:

      It was combination of OT 9&10, lots of chikin and some ProMuscleX360Testo15 Protein shakes.
      But mainly just OT 9&10. So there you have it folks!

      Thanks for all the support!!

      • Libertylover

        Ethan the London readers are calling you out.
        “53 year old men do not have enough testosterone in their body to have that much body definition and size naturally… they just don’t! He is using the “Hollywood fountain of youth” GH (Growth Hormone) as well as Testosterone and a whole medical cabinet full of pharmaceuticals! And don’t forget the botox!”
        Looks like GH to me too!

  • Miss Tia

    okay, while i wait for my tech person to let me upload to our HowdyCon site, i have a question i figure can be answered quicker here than me googling for another hour or so…..

    My Q: Does Miscavige employ any NON-scientologists for say, massages (now now i’m not thinking like that), working out—if he wanted to play tennis with someone for example, or even as a chef….does he have ANY kind of non-scientologists who would have some close interaction with him? I know they’d have to sign a NDA, just wondering….

    • flyonthewall

      you looking for a job?

      • Laura Lou

        Fly, you are so fly ๐Ÿ™‚

        • flyonthewall

          i try

        • 3feetback-of-COS
          • 3feetback-of-COS

            OR: When OT XVI goes wrong….

          • Laura Lou

            He’s got nothing in the hotness department compared to young Jeff Goldblum….but I’ll take it!

            • 3feetback-of-COS

              The re-make of the Fly with Jeff Goldblum was pretty good, too.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              The younger Vincent Price wasn’t bad looking ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Laura Lou

              I get the whole tall-and-lantern-jawed. BUT voila est Jeff Goldblum like 15 years after “The Fly” (version deux) in “Jurassic Park”.

      • Miss Tia

        HAHAHA definitely no!!! But should i pass your CV on? ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • flyonthewall

          Since I had to google what a CV was I’m almost positive I don’t think I have one but I’m have to check to make sure.

          I’m going to tell OTVIII next time he is here that you’re interested in being his masseuse. I heard deep tissue massages in the upper thigh region are his favorite. Be sure to use a lot of unblinking eye contact and tone 40 during the interview. Good luck!

          • Miss Tia

            you know i use to answer phones for an escort service, right? the line to say on the phone was “our ladies only do a light touch body massage while wearing lingerie but our ladies are open minded”…..then the ‘lady’ could set up whatever when she called the guy back…..i don’t think anyone ever got a light touch body massage…..

            • flyonthewall

              omg, I didn’t know that! That is great. There was a client at my job who would always request a female masseuse in his room when he would trvl. Glad I never had to set that up for him, lol, gross

            • Miss Tia

              i have 2 ‘hooker booker’ stories that sort of have to be told in person—or i can video myself….they don’t transcribe well written down…..15+ years later and one especially i am STILL ‘WHAT THE FUCK?!’….the other is just flat out funny!

            • flyonthewall

              ooh save it for Howdycon!

            • daisy

              thx

            • what’sup

              What’s the difference between a lentil and a chick pea?

              I wouldn’t pay $150 to have a lentil on my face.

            • daisy

              chick pea a lentil, lentil not a chick pea necessarily. One is a sub group of the other. Hoping I am not answering a sarcastic post. If I am ignore.

            • what’sup

              It’s a joke…..not an exercise in how well one knows their legumes.

            • daisy

              Sorry, I had a feeling, but no one else was answering, so I thought I would share my limited vegetable knowledge. If you saw me you would see how limited it was. Oh yeah now I see the joke. Insomnia last 2 nights, running on fumes and stupidity.

            • Miss Tia

              most people knew you were joking….

            • flyonthewall

              that’s hilarious

            • Miss Tia

              we had ‘company day’ at cedar point (amusement park) and i went with a friend of mine, cuz he said “when am I ever going to be able to be surrounded by hookers without paying?” he went on one ride with one and it was a swirling cup one and she kept sort of falling on him….he asked me afterwards if he should tip her…..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              GTFO! That’s worth coming to Howdycon for all by itself.

            • Miss Tia

              I have a COPY of my hooker booking book too! Copy made by a CEN-TAC (multi-jurisdictional task force) member…..2 escort services were busted by CEN-TAC and EVERYONE was arrested, except ME, cuz by very strange—well in my life ‘normal’—circumstances i ended up meeting a CEN-TAC member and somehow booking hookers came up and they had me meet with a other couple members….this was a few months after i quit, cuz the head hooker shorted me on my money one week (I got $10 per ‘booking’)…..they took me to lunch, went over everything, i gave them my book; but then i met a member again, at a bar, and they gave me a copy—i had said if it was legally possible i wanted a copy of that book….they didn’t even black out the credit card #s!!…..they also paid me too for being an ‘informer’….i felt weird about THAT, but he said to consider it the money SHE owed me plus a bonus…..

              they all were arrested on FEDERAL charges, racketeering and money laundering…..the ‘other’ escort service dealt with drugs….but not the one i worked for, the head hooker was adamant that no one do drugs and if they went to a house and they had drugs there, they were to leave…..this is the only article i could easily find…..i worked for the Fairlawn one….and yes, there was politicians and lawyers…..yes indeed…..i know it was on the front page of the Akron Beacon Journal though cuz i had so many people calling me that day!!

              just the top story in this article….

              http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/hookers-in-heat/Content?oid=1471927

    • Missionary Kid

      I really doubt it, but there’s all sorts of people who can answer that question. It would be like Hitler using someone other than an SS trooper to guard him, IMO.

      • Miss Tia

        very very true…..i wonder how some of those with skills that he NEEDS then STAY….i mean like a chef(s) how can they stay?? and when they leave how does he replace them? you know he gets spa treatments so who does them? you know he would demand perfection…..it’s sort of interesting to wonder about….well it is to me right now ๐Ÿ™‚

        • flyonthewall

          wth do you have cooking Tia? *looking at you sideways*

          • Miss Tia

            checks stove….nope…nothing is cooking in the kitchen ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • flyonthewall

              mm-hmm ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Miss Tia

              uh huh…..

            • Rasha

              …now I’m hungry…

            • Miss Tia

              no food!!!

            • Rasha

              but….

            • Miss Tia

              no food!! i would suggest they need to go to the vet tho cuz that’s a serious eye issue! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Missionary Kid

          Probably, any civilians that he has working for him have to sign extensive NDAs, but I’ll bet he has some trained $cientology seals to do a lot of the cooking. For special occasions, I’ll bet he brings in hired guns.

          • Miss Tia

            hired guns would probably be scientologist companies too or if not, he wouldn’t get near them…..

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      For massages I’m thinking more like touch assists – they work, right..?

      • Miss Tia

        you know he wants the full spa treatment pampering!! how high would the turnover be around him? he’d have to be very high….or perhaps not turnover—but when they’re sent to the RPF….so who takes over? i mean you gotta have some training for somethings….especially massages….even hair cutting….who cuts his hair?? or does his manicure?

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          Well, according to Elron, everybody has done these things in past lives, so they can do it in this life as well.

          No, but seriously – for example, Cat White worked in make-up in Hollywood, and you have the whole WISE thing that probably has massage therapists and all that. I’m guessing he gets most of his needs taken care of by scientologists.

          • Miss Tia

            oh yes!!! you are so right—WISE!!!!! though i don’t think ALL members of wise are scientologists….but yes, i forgot about WISE! thank you! ๐Ÿ™‚

            i doubt miscavige would have the patience while someone tried to remember from a past life how to cook his food how he likes it!!

        • beauty for ashes

          Joy villa is a makeup artist!

          • daisy

            For who, circus clowns ?

            • beauty for ashes

              Send in the clowns…. lol. Now I’m not going to knock everything she does, because I have seen a few pics of her when she got it right. I wish she would stop wearing the hideous yellow button up and the kids plastic jewelry.

            • daisy

              I don’t care, I have few talents, and as long as she is an active scientologist promoting her crime syndicate, I am going to make fun of her. ( fair game, is not for scientologists only )

            • beauty for ashes

              Why are you such a MegaBitch Heather? LOL. She just reminds me of a lot of the girls and boys I used to work with when I worked for MAC makeup.

            • daisy

              I agree she is an example of a sweet 20 something misguided scientologist, I have said this about all my snark before. If she walked out of the cult today, I would wrap myself in orange fencing and proclaim her a fashion genius. Same goes to Krustie, Jenna, et.al.

            • beauty for ashes

              You did get the Heathers reference though right?

            • daisy

              Despite my age, I did . I do not know why I care on the internet , I just don’t want to be perceived as a bitter poster. I got your joke . The answer was for other people reading. I don’t like random put downs for the sake of being nasty.

            • beauty for ashes

              I think I get it. ๐Ÿ™‚ BTW I think we are around the same age. F5 My sis and I used to say this to each other all the time.

            • daisy

              Look how young we are. Thank you for understanding this flawed hypocrite.

            • beauty for ashes

              Aww Daisy, I hope I did not make you feel that way. If I did I am truly sorry. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • daisy

              You didn’t make me feel like that, I did. I always love your humor..

            • Miss Tia

              Corn nuts!

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I’m with you daisy, open arms for anyone who escapes – but I do feel more sorry for Joy Villa because she seems so young and anchorless.

          • Miss Tia

            i know you’re not joking, but you’ve got to be kidding!! HAH!

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            “Joy villa is a makeup artist!”

            And an actress and a singer and a model and a writer and probably a dogwalker, too…Is there anything that girl can’t do?!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              How much time do you have?

      • Bryce Byerley

        they sure do! Just request a “touch assist with a happy ending” aka a level 2 TA-HE rundown.

    • Laura Lou

      No, never. I’m sure there are plenty of Scientologists or Scientology-vulnerable people who can do these jobs, but most importantly: NDAs CAN BE BROKEN, AND LEGALLY. It’s not like Attorney-Client or Doctor-Patient. If a person who’s signed an NDA witnesses anything illegal – esp. a felonious act – they can report it to law enforcement without fear of lawsuit. And non-Scientologists are very likely to do this – Miscavige ain’t dumb; he knows all the tricks.

      Said by a person who knows; I have to sign NDAs all the time for my job

      • SJFriedl

        It’s not a slam dunk that reporting illegal acts to the police means you won’t get sued for violating your NDA. It probably does mean that Scn won’t win, but that’s only if you’re able to stick with the legal process long enough to get there. Some might find this a challenge.

        • Laura Lou

          Not in Criminal Court. The District Attorney takes up your case – they take your statement and proceed without you until they need you to give testimony in court. I think that District Attorneys across the nation are raring to go against Scientologists. And having them take up your reporting of a crime will slow the ever-loving shit down on a civil case. It’s much easier to deal with a crime on Criminal Court as opposed to Civil Court.

          • SJFriedl

            Violation of an NDA is not a crime, it’s a breach of contract, which I believe is pursued in civil court; it’s not beyond Scn to file a civil case, knowing they’ll lose, just to grind you down and set an example for others.

            Steve [not an attorney]

            • Laura Lou

              Violation of an NDA means providing a competing company or client with professional/ design details that were provided to you at the time of your employment with another client. It does not mean that you can’t tell anyone about an illegal act you witnessed. That’s why heading straight for Criminal Court is the best thing to do. Scientology could sue you for defamation/libel – but only if what you claimed wasn’t true, which, in the reporting of illegal activities, has to be proved. And if it was being tried in Criminal Court SIMULTANEOUSLY – it would be mad difficult and mad slow.

            • SJFriedl

              Violation of an NDA is disclosing whatever you have contractually agreed not to disclose.

              In the commercial world it often means what you suggested (design details, etc.) but it can be anything: many celebrities require NDAs for their staff such that they will not disclose personal details of what they observe (fights in private, personal habits in private, etc.) seen while working around the celebrities. Scn surely has things along those lines in their NDA.

              And I fear you equate “they won’t be able to win” with “they won’t be able to sue”; just because Scn has a losing case doesn’t mean they can’t make your life miserable in the process; this has been their modus operandi for a long time.

              So what if what you said was truthful? You still have to show up in court when they sue, you still have to have an attorney, and if you can hang in there until the end, *maybe* you can recover your legal fees.

              Perhaps the legal system has built-in safeguards for this kind of thing, but I’d be surprised if Scn had no way to make you wish you didn’t talk to the authorities.

            • Laura Lou

              In the first place, “personal details” that aren’t illegal, are covered by an NDA. Fights, embarrasment (like adultery) and general bitchiness aren’t felonies. Thus, why Naomi Campbell’s assistant was able to sue – successfully.

              IT HAS TO BE ILLEGAL.

              For non-Scientologists who are appalled when they witness the realities of the religion? Maybe I’m naive, but I’m wiling to bet that some of the chefs/massueses/personal trainers – particularly high-rated ones – might not be so quick to crumble. And since we’re talking about Miscavige, that means he’d only hire the absolute best [non-Scientologists], i.e., people who have quite a few celeb clients.

              Nah – didn’t mean that the State would be able to win, or that the individual person would be able to win, or that Scientology wouldn’t successfully sue. I just meant that a non-Scientologist is a much more unpredictable – and therefore much more dangerous – threat to Miscavige. Esp. one that has absolutely no marital or personal connection to the “Church”.

            • SJFriedl

              We’re somehow on different pages here: just because one is in the right by reporting something illegal, it doesn’t mean that Scientology cannot eff with your life by dragging you through court *even if* they eventually lose.

              And what happens if that illegal act you reported somehow never makes it to a guilty verdict? Maybe the DA doesn’t have enough evidence, or the jury hangs, or whatever, and now that Scn is off the hook, they have even more grounds to go after you.

              They don’t care about winning (which they probably won’t), only effing with your life such that you are sorry you said anything, and that others watching are less inclined to go down thnis road themselves.

              Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point.

              BUt you’re right that having Scientologists around is far safer, because they are much more under the spell of the cult, easier to keep in line (especially considering that “eternity” is on the line for thme).

        • Frodis73

          I am also not a lawyer, but I think the contract would be voided if you witnessed something illegal and reported it. For example, every person that works in any capacity with celebs signs all kinds of NDs. If Tommy Boy decides to murder somebody he should have no expectation that the murder would be covered under the ND and that you’d keep your mouth shut. Like I said, I am not a lawyer, but I seem to recall something about illegal acts cannot be covered in that kind of thing.

          • SJFriedl

            NDAs never cover illegal acts, but it doens’t mean that Scientology can’t sue you and make you miserable. They’ll eventually lose, but you’ll probably wish you never got involved.

    • Sejanus

      Why hire someone when you have perfectly good sycophants and lickspittles awaiting your every whim?

      • Miss Tia

        but you want a good job…..

    • what’sup

      His personal security are not Clam’s Misty. Ex military types most likely but definitely not Scientologists.

      • Miss Tia

        ooooo thank you!!!! i’ll see if i can find any dox on this! Thank you so much what’sup!!! this helps immensely!! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • what’sup

          I have discussed this with our proprietor at some length.

          • Miss Tia

            well that’s dox enough for me!! do you know perchance what branch of the military? is it US military? …..he would indeed want WELL trained capable security…..and ex military would really be the best…..

            • Beth

              A few years ago it was very fashionable to get private security from ex-members of the Mossad (Israeli cia). Not kidding. Including for Hollywood types. Other likelies are ex secret service and ex elite US military.And those who have come up the thru the ranks of a major police dept like NYPD/LAPD. Either retired, or
              some cops do private security when they’re not on duty to make a few extra bucks. I agree that the local Hooters bouncer lunkhead surely wouldn’t do for miscavige.

            • Miss Tia

              yeah, i’ve heard of many celebs having ex-mossad for security…..i say probably more likely ex-elite US military for miscavige….i wonder if israelis would have an issue with scientologies views? or their relationship with noi? miscavige has such a massive ego he’d definitely want more than a regular police officer….definitely high ranking, highly trained…..

            • Beth

              Definitely. He would want the elitest of the elite.

            • what’sup

              These types of security firms are usually global with offices all over the world. You would need to be an ex special forces type and I would suggest speaking a few languages would also be plus. I would also think that some martial arts or contact sport experience would be beneficial. The Australian SAS are amongst the most elite soldiers on earth (their base is about a mile away from the pub I met Tony at). They do no hand to hand combat whatsoever, and they are generally slightly built guys. Ex officers would be lauded as well as a higher standard of education and decorum. They are very well paid and the less educated amongst them often become mercenaries or assorted guns for hire. Miscavige thinks the S.O are out to get him. There’s no way he would arm the traitors. In Tony’s own words “no expense is spared when it comes to Miscavige’s security” so you can bet he uses one these types of companies. He knows he can trust them completely and would realize he’s small fry for this firm. They would look after some hated but wealthy people in some lawless locations.

      • The Black Bag Department March 17, 2014, Mike Rinder, Something Can Be Done About It
        Scientology
        Black Bag Roster
        March 17, 2014, Marty Rathbun, Moving On Up a Little Higher

        • Juicer77

          Really good articles. Great mention by Rinder of the way the Co$ tries to blanket all their staff, including hired ones, with the “ecclesiastical activities” exemption. Somehow I think Judge Waldrip will have his thumb on that pretty quick.

    • Eclipse-girl

      the PIs and several of the lawyers that are employed are not clams

      • Miss Tia

        LAWYERS!!! YES LAWYERS!!!!! FUCK!!!! Why didn’t I think of that before?!?!? That should work perfectly!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

        • Eclipse-girl

          I do not know what I did.
          But if it got your cretaive juices going, then it is all good

    • pluvo
      • Miss Tia

        Thank you!!! I’ll read that in a bit!!

  • truth will set u free

    I had just finished reading Reitman’s book about two weeks ago and then Tony started the Lisa MacPherson postings,( thank you Tony for all you do!) so this is poignantly timely for me. My heart breaks for this poor soul, on so many levels. Like Obs , I too was a young adult around the same years she was slaving for Sci. Unlike Lisa I did not get ensnared by the cult, but in different circumstances it could’ve been me because I was a seeker like so many in those times were. I do not believe anyone who began in Scientology ever could imagine how insidious the big ugly machine would become. I am also amazed at the caliber of exes, their brilliance and resilience in the face of the twisted horror they endured to become such remarkable individuals. However, Lisa symbolizes those who don’t get out alive and for this reason, we must never forget them. (Edited typos)

    • Eclipse-girl

      ^^^
      THIS IS WHY

  • daytoncapri
    • Captain MustSavage

      Big fan of anonymous, but if they’re shutting down twitter accounts intelligence agencies have been tracking that aint good.

      • Anonymous is anyone who can make a YouTube video that does or does not gain support from anyone else.

  • Miss Tia

    Finally remember to check OhioLink…..NO Ohio Universities have Troublemaker!! NONE! That’s really really weird, cuz I mean, some school will usually get EVERY book when it’s first released!! 3 Universities have the new Stephen King—though one is still, of course, local use only since it’s new and the other 2 it’s checked out. I can’t believe NO Ohio University has Troublemaker!! DAFUQ?!?!?!? I mean, Kent State has Going Clear, Beyond Belief, etc…..

  • Off topic: just had some free adrenaline – there was a fire/lots of smoke on 5th floor in my apt building and I live on 6th. Took a fire escape. 10 fire trucks outside, but all is good now. No victims, just one burnt apt and strong smell of burnt plastic. And Bengals are playing tonight. Wonder if someone dropped a celebratory joint.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Any Volunteer Ministers show up? Do you need a touch assist? /sarcasm off

    • Miss Tia

      glad that ended okay and hopefully the apartment isn’t that bad that was burnt!!

    • daisy

      Scary, so glad you are safe.

    • aegerprimo

      Stay safe Dodo.

    • Ben Franklin

      Glad you are safe Dodo

    • TexasBroad

      Wow —- glad all was okay! No celebratory joints YET…go Texans!

    • flyonthewall

      did you shove anyone out of your way on the way down the fire escape?

      • Ha! No, I am not the type. Besides most folks were outside already tailgating before the game.

        • flyonthewall

          dang! I pictured it going something like this

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEWZSWnAGwI

          • lol! In my building there are these doors that shut down automatically on every floor and the fire alarm is so loud and high pitch, it can probably annihilate small animals and give humans headache. I am just glad it’s over and no one got hurt.

            • flyonthewall

              heck yeah, scary stuff. Was your son scared?

            • Thankfully he was not at home, he is at his friend’s house playing yugioh cards when their fingers are too tired from playstation 4.

            • flyonthewall

              double plus good

            • Oh and this cool hipster guy (he owns a gym across the street) on a ground level, when I was coming down, was like – you know you can open those automatic doors from the inside, right? I told him I didn’t want to take a risk, since there was a lot of smoke. What I felt like saying – thanks for your advice, dude who lives on the 1st floor, right next to the main exit door. End of rant.

            • Juicer77

              Glad you are ok. Plus (I think?) those doors help cut down on the oxygen flow, which helps keep the fire contained. Opening them is not a good idea unless you have no other exit.

    • The weirdest part, I had a dream last night where I was trying to escape from a lot of smoke in my apt building, but using a fire escape on top/7th floor. And it’s not like I dream these things every night.

      • Jimmy3

        You are a Vivid. I knew it. Don’t tell anyone, they’ll think you’re crazy.
        But I know. I know.

        • Yeah, bro, I knew you would understand. I can see you right now so clearly, wearing nothing but tinfoil baseball cap, enjoying a beer and a peanutbutter bacon sammich.

          • Jimmy3

            No joke, you were more than half right.

            • Jimmy3

              I didn’t have any peanut butter.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Vivid makes my favorite movies.

          • That’s what Kim said.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              (looks around for a woman from Colorado hiding in my closet) Iz disappoint.

            • Armenian Kim.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ha! OK. (wink, wink) I think at this point she is mostly plastic Kim. Maybe she’s the one who burnt upstairs, huh?

      • flyonthewall

        very cool

        • Thanks. In 41 years of my life, I had 8-10 dreams that were telling me what’s going to happen next day, all out of the blue, like meeting a childhood friend or the one above.
          It’s interesting. It’s like I get an email from the Universe. I know it happened to others too.

          • flyonthewall

            Yep, I had stuff like that happen a few times too. Wife says I’m psychic but I wouldn’t go that far

          • MaxSpaceman

            Oatee powers! :->)

          • MrsLurksALot

            Happens to me occasionally, too. Also, I get fleeting thoughts of something that is about to happen or is happening. It has freaked me out before. But, glad you are safe. Fire can be scary. And smelly.

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            One of my teachers had something weird happen to her where she would get a dream in which she received a phone call that someone died, then the nex day she would learn that person did indeed croak. It happened every time without fail.

            • It’s kind of like we are the Internet of sorts, even without our smart phones, computers and servers. Sometimes.

      • Bernie

        My husband had a dream years ago about walking along a slushy sidewalk, bending down and finding a pair of nail clippers hidden in the slush between the sidewalk and the road. The next day he was going to the movies with his brother and he was describing this dream to him, as they were walking down a slushy sidewalk, and then when they got to the corner my husband bent down and put his hand in the slush and came up the nail clippers. His brother didn’t believe it and thought he had planned the whole thing as a trick. Right on, mail from the Universe. The Scottish call it The Sight.

    • B4you

      Inhale….Exhale….

    • aquaclara

      Thank the smoke eaters….and glad you’re safe!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I’d call that a WIN! No E-meter necessary. Glad you’re OK.

    • Supper Powers

      Glad to know you’re ok, mijo.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Whoa, stay safe, sir.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh my, and now I just read about texasborn’s tornado. Stay safe Dodo.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Jeez, just read about Texas tornados, now fire in Dodoland. So glad safe. What did you do with all that adrenaline?

  • Zeruel (Sebastian)

    HowdyCon logo submitted.

  • pat k

    OT: Monday night football had our national anthem sung by Walk the Moon. Doing Ohio proud.

    • Jimmy3

      Just need Gio to get me 2 pts, and I’m all set. They can lose after that.

      • pat k

        I used to be a great winner in our pool but this year it’s a race to see who can be the most wrong each week!

      • Vaquera

        Watt?

        • Jimmy3

          There she is! After Gio gets his 20 yards, I’m all Texans tonight.

          • Vaquera

            Sportin’ my 99 jersey at the local pour. Trying to believe in a miracle.

            • TexasBroad

              BELIEVE!!! JJ lives pretty close to me so always fun to see him out and about. Just the absolute nicest man — shows up often at local little league games.

            • Vaquera

              I keep sending him my daughter’s phone number, but so far no calls. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Miss Tia

      I’ve never heard of Walk the Moon or their connection to Ohio.

      • pat k

        Look them up! Talented young men doing Cincinnati proud.

        • Miss Tia

          nah, that’s okay…..

          • pat k

            Don’t be cynical -one of them is aCincinnati native and they do lovely harmonies. I admit I am influenced by my twenty something children for new music but they have varying tastes.

            • Miss Tia

              well i am cynical about a lot of things probably everything; but i’m really strange about music and um, everything else ๐Ÿ™‚ if i want lovely harmonies, i have simon and garfunkel! ๐Ÿ˜‰

              i live in akron and i once listened to the black keys for too many seconds a few years ago and i’m still scarred by that…..no offense to anyone who likes them…..i like a wide variety of music….but i’ve tried to avoid MOST (not all) ‘new’ bands in about the last 15+ years….there’s been a FEW exceptions….

            • pat k

              Proud of you for giving new music a shot. My sons’ friends give great respect to the original heroes of music. We need to represent our generations with pride.

  • thetastic

    Tony, this countdown is heartbreaking, but also unbelievable journalism.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    The real Jack Reacher story:

    • SJFriedl

      For a guy in his fifties, he really does look pretty damn good.

      • Ethan

        Thanks!

      • mon elle

        He has the guns but apparently the guts as well.

  • Doc M

    I don’t know,
    First Donald Trump suggests we close all mosques, next he’ll advise we shut every Taco Bell. Where does it end?

    • kemist

      I dont know, where does he stand on these falafel shops where you can get shawarma ?

      Mmmmm…. shawarma.

      • Doc M

        I don’t think he makes a distinction: Arab means Moslem means Terroist.

        On the other hand, Trump is just a performer and his rants are just Vaudeville. Despite what the polls might say, very few take this guy seriously. Certainly not the people in Washington.

    • Miss Tia

      I suppose Olive Gardens would be endangered too.

    • Laura Lou

      THE WALL, yo. Everything is solved by the Mexican wall.

      • scottmercer

        That’s it! Laura, you’re a genius! Build Taco Bells INTO the wall! (Very few things repel Mexican people like Taco Bell). (/snark, I don’t like Trump)

        • Laura Lou

          TACO BELL REPELS EVERYONE who has eaten Mexican food made by actual Mexicans and/or their descendants. Let’s make $$$ off their culture while denying them basic Constitutional freedoms (BTW I hear they’re mostly Christian. So, Jeb! should like them, RIGHT???)

          • Doc M

            To a large portion of America, Taco Bell is authentic Mexican Cuisine. Same as an Egg Roll being authentic Chinese Cuisine…or Pasta being the only food eaten in all of Italy.

            • Laura Lou

              I THOUGHT PIZZA WAS ALL THEY ATE IN ITALY! Interestingly enough, the Chinese invented pasta, and it was brought back to Italy by An Explorer (I would like to name Marco Polo here, but I’m not sure and too lazy to sift through Google). ANYWAY. Egg Rolls are great. Hideous fast-food is not.

          • Frodis73

            Yum. Now I want authentic Mexican. There are some good ones here.

        • mon elle

          Actually you could make a wall out of Taco Bell cuisine. The refried beans not only make grout but also do a proper fill-in for wall patch or stucco.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      He’ll never tell us to stop staying at his own hotels.

      • Laura Lou

        The only color he cares about is green??? Oddly enough, he might be able to spin that into votes, if he weren’t so desperate to appeal to old white men who still have issues with the Civil Rights Act.

    • sizzle8

      He didn’t say “close all mosques”.

      From the AFP,
      “French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said Monday that radical mosques and groups that attack the country’s values should be shut down.
      MSNBC asked if Trump would do the same in the United States if he were president.
      “I would hate to do it but it’s something that you’re going to have to strongly consider,” he added.
      “Because some of the ideas and some of the hatred, the absolute hatred, is coming from these areas.”

      • Doc M

        He did 2 months ago.

        And my comment was a joke.

  • Snake Plissken

    I never noticed the fake ship at Gold Base, how long has it been there?

    https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8336915,-116.9868559,20z/data=!3m1!1e3

    • Since Hubbard. It’s mentioned in some critical books.

      • Snake Plissken

        I must not have noticed it because I never saw it in 3D before

        • I am surprised it’s still there. What a fucking joke.

          • Snake Plissken

            It is pretty silly, isn’t it

    • villagedianne

      Reportedly Cruise and Miscavige would hang out on the “ship in the desert” for some alone time.

    • Rasha

      Everything in the picture is all bendy, but it’s still the worst putt-putt hole evar….

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        You see? They really CAN alter MEST! I’m signing up tomorrow.

        PS, if you wonder what is going on, you might have to click the SAT view in the embedded google map, or you’ll only be seeing the MAP view. Bottom, left corner.

        • Rasha

          Yup. That’s where all the bendy lines are. It is all MEST up. ๐Ÿ˜›

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Hasn’t it been there all along, harking back to the sea where hubturd once fled to?

      • Snake Plissken

        Apparently so, I just never noticed it from the aerial views before

    • Graham

      IIRC it’s mentioned in Marc Headley’s “Blown For Good”.

  • Sid (Phil)

    Are we ready? (F5)

    • Miss Tia

      Brilliant!! You can provide those for goodie bags? ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Rasha

        Can those of us who most likely can’t make it still participate?

        • Miss Tia

          ABSOLUTELY!!! Submit your logo entry to howdycon(at)gmail(dot)com

          • Rasha

            ^_^

        • Miss Tia

          and next time i mention it, i will stress that too, thanks for that!! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Sid (Phil)

        Good idea. I’ll check it out.

    • Can we get some pretty sharks too? Otherwise people might think it’s serial killers conventions.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        And a shrunken head. I wonder what happened to his……Howdy’s most prized possession.

        • Ebner?

        • Nat-leficent

          We can make them from apples F5

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            You attached it to a table lamp? That sounds safe….

          • Rasha

            …apples have teeth???

            • Nat-leficent

              I think those come in the kit

      • daisy

        Are they mutually exclusive ?

    • Rasha

      Can those of us who can’t make it still participate?

      Edit: this was meant for Miss Tia. Disqus is playing Silly Buggers with me.

    • Beth

      Nice, Sid!

    • mon elle

      Ummm … at the risk of being ostracized … is Howdycon at a McDonald’s around Halloween?

      Cuz that looks like a seriously Unhappy Meal …..

      • Frodis73

        You had to know Howdy. He would love that. Not everybody loves rainbows and unicorns. Happiness and beauty are in the eye of the beholder and all that jazz.

        • mon elle

          I’m only allowed in public on the strength of your final sentence.

      • Sid (Phil)

        With a prize in every box.

  • Rasha

    So, I’m looking at the number of comments, and the number of Recommends, and I’m like….. hmmmmm….

    …someone ain’t clickin’…… just sayin’

    ^_^

    • Sergeant Pepper

      My bad. FTFY.

      • Rasha

        ^_^

  • texasborn

    WAY OT, but my family and I just survived a mile-wide tornado, then another mile-wide tornado in the Texas Panhandle. Thank whatever you choose to thank that we had access to a shelter. Waiting for daylight to assess the damage. Mighty scary.

    • Rasha

      Glad you’re safe. Looks like a monster!! Same storm is gonna bring blizzard conditions to the high Plains….

      Hope all is well in the morning.

      • texasborn

        Thank you. I understand it is headed north at a mighty clip. I’ve only lived up here for a couple of years, and this is the first tornado that’s actually hit. Scared the bejeesus out of me.

        • Supper Powers

          (((texasborn)))

        • Rasha

          Just bunker down for the night. I’m guessing you have power, so there’s that. Personally, I’d be under the blanket, ‘cuz nothing can find you there.

          • texasborn

            I’m looking for my blanket right now!

            • 46 degrees. Combine cooking foil with blankets if you can. Anything to stay warm.

            • texasborn

              I’ll try that, thanks

            • And don’t forget stuff that might slip the mind like car emergency kits. In mine, the jumper cables have always been the most useful, but tucked in there are also stuff like mylar emergency blankets. Inventory check:

              Emergency blankets
              Two tea lights & matches
              85% cotton gloves
              Jumper cables
              Handwarmer
              Flashlight
              Ice scraper
              SOS banner
              Whistle
              Micro First-Aid kit
              Antiseptic wipes
              Band-aids
              Gauze
              Tape
              Dressing pads

              Hmph. I suspect I’d better check and replace the flashlight.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            rasha is right, this is a good time for a bunker.

    • Jimmy3

      May Xenu have mercy.

      • texasborn

        That works. Thank you.

        • Jimmy3

          Holy shit. It leveled a Halliburton plant?

          • texasborn

            Yeah. It was a big plant, too. It also took out the only bowling alley around here. And derailed a train!

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Oh wow.

            • Juicer77

              O.o
              Glad you are safe. Please be careful tomorrow when you go out to survey the damage.

          • Nat-leficent

            There IS a god.

    • Supper Powers

      Thank goodness for prepartion and engineering. Glad you made it through. Tornadoes are scary! Have a drink and breathe.

    • salin

      How terrifying, Most important is that your family weathered the storms safely. Let us know what the daylight brings. Hoping for the best (minimal damage.)

      • texasborn

        Thank you. The whole extended family here in Pampa is safe. Reports are coming in now of damages. A large Halliburton complex right out of town was leveled. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.

    • Crazy fucking Monday. Glad you and the family are okay.

      • texasborn

        Thank you. It’s November! You don’t have a tornado in November! That’s a Spring thing.
        WTF?

        • Laura Lou

          Tornado Truther!

        • Supper Powers

          Been thorough hurricanes and tornadoes. Stay still. If you are able to access power and water, you’re good. Power lines are likely down. Just camp out and refocus when dawn breaks. You’re doing fine, mon ami.

          • texasborn

            Thank you. The power came back on about an hour ago. We’re just waiting for daylight to actually see what’s happened. My neighborhood was on the opposite side of town, and all we got was tennis ball sized hail. Lots of limbs down in the back yard. I’m refocusing with difficulty, but I’m refocusing.

            • TexasBroad

              I know how scary that is Texasborn. I am glad you are safe.

            • texasborn

              Thank you. I lived in Dallas for many years, and watched tornadoes from a distance, but never had one reach the city. I have a feeling you’ve been in the path before.

            • TexasBroad

              Nothing like you saw tonight. Glad you are safe. Take care of each other.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              i cannot imagine. Am glad you have power. Hug your family tight and try to sleep.

        • It’s Novembernado.

    • Eclipse-girl

      damn, that is bad.
      take care of yourself and please keep us updated, tomorrow

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh no Texas, that is scary – I am so glad you are safe and I hope I others are as well. My thoughts are with you in Texas.

    • seriouslyWTF

      I would like to thank whomever built the shelter. Glad you are okay.

    • vicariousthrill

      Thoughts with you this early morning. Prayers.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank goodness. Please keep us updated and let us know what you need.

      • texasborn

        Thank you, Hole. The tornadoes were replaced by strong winds, rain and snow. I’ll take that! All is well here. The strongest of the tornadoes was an EF3, and it took out a few things, but there were NO lives lost. That’s what counts.

  • Dear Houston, you don’t have to be all that.

    • TexasBroad

      Mr. Broad was dancing. (Mr.Broad doesn’t dance).

      • Laura Lou

        Pics or it didn’t happen

        • TexasBroad

          In our crazy little love affair, the balance of embarrassing pictures tips decidedly in his favor…I tread accordingly.

          • Laura Lou

            Been there! Total respect. I’ll take your word for it ๐Ÿ™‚

      • mon elle

        Could be why we’re not friends.

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AjPau5QYtYs

        • Rasha

          I never minded the strange attempt at surrealism, but that strange girl always scared me… In any case, it’s lodged in my head now….

      • On a bright side, the alcohol sales in Ohio will decrease this week. I think.

  • Supper Powers

    Fires in Ohio, tornadoes in Texas, Hurricane Leah in California, Tony is raising hell everywhere….what is going on?!?

    • It’s apockalepicses.

    • mon elle

      It’s the end of the Orgs as we know ’em … and it feels fine.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GFRcFm-aY

    • Draco

      Don’t know about the fires and tornadoes, but as to the rest: It’s the Golden Age of SPs. Also known as GASP ๐Ÿ™‚

      • OOkpik

        [sputter] Now THAT’S funny!

    • Alice Graves

      Mother Nature is the ultimate SP.

  • Jimmy3

    Watts a classy guy

  • Rasha

    Many Internetz for you… XD

  • Rasha

    Night, Bunks. Stay safe.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Night Rasha, sweet dreams to you,

    • daisy

      Yeah get me all stirred up laughing. then you go to bed.

      • Rasha

        ^_^

      • Liberated

        Daisy, my grandpa had a big old beagle named Dino. ( It was during the Flintstones era ) He was a good dog!

        • daisy

          Never had the breed before. She is a lot of work and laughs. Aren*t all all era*s Flinstone era*s.

  • texasborn

    This picture just came up on the news feed out of Amarillo. This was the first tornado that hit us. https://www.facebook.com/KFDMNews/photos/a.84598483755.79668.79318758755/10153716775938756/?type=3

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      WHOA!

      • texasborn

        It was a mile-wide and horrific. The second one was about the same size, they say. It was dark by the time it hit and you couldn’t see it.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          This just happened in your area? All safe?

    • Kay

      Holy cow

    • TexasBroad

      A mile wide. Terrifying.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Still in a safe place? A shelter?

    • Sejanus

      Nope…would be so outta there.

    • Draco

      Now that is scary shit…

    • Alice Graves

      Holy crap. Out here in California we have earthquakes but somehow I’d rather face them than this monster. Hope you’re safe.

      • texasborn

        Agreed. The Sheriff’s office just released a statement that four tornadoes touched down here. Glad I didn’t know that last night!

        • Alice Graves

          I watched the videos people have uploaded of the mile wide monster – it was in the dark & only revealed itself when flashes of lightening lit it up! Glad you are safe.

  • Liberated

    I’m still freakin out about that Erlich photo. Does anyone remember the movie Boys of Brazil? All of these horrible little boys were spawned from daddy Hitler’s DNA. Then I had this terrible thought, what if Miscaivaige decided to do the same? Can you imagine. a bunch of three foot ruthless bullies running around demanding everyone’s money and putting them in lower ethics conditions, and getting away with it? Oh my God!

    • B4you

      I have see one of those “baby” seaorgers, 12 year and IN charge *lol*

      • Liberated

        YIKES!

    • Eclipse-girl

      Davey would never do that.

      First, he would need to use SO females, and that would cut into his income.
      Second, he could be liable for child support.

      Like B4you has mentioned, Davey creates them without having to procreate.

      • Liberated

        Well, you do have a point a ” small” point.

      • Simi Valley

        Third, he can’t get it up anymore (per his drinking buddies). Not that I would have firsthand information.

        • Eclipse-girl

          not even with a blue pill?

  • Curious George

    Just heard Sherwood Ball, married to an OT 6/7 was on the Flag winds, got a stroke and passed…any news?

    • Draco

      It seems it was discussed earlier – I saw this on ESMB:

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?7122-Memorials-Thread-RIP-sad/page87

    • Simi Valley

      I guess once they got rid of that fake doctor on board, they never bothered to get a real one. All those clams with superpowerz … why would they need one?

    • what’sup

      Pity he didn’t need an emergency root canal. There was probably dentist aplenty.

      • Curious George

        Now, now…be nice….tragic though…

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Someone’s family member just died. Respect.

        • what’sup

          I haven’t disrespected anyone. Except Scientology, the Freewinds and the non existent medical supervision therein.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It’s on ESMB and also earlier in this post. Entertainer, recently married to Vicky Norton, used to be veteran SO. Had done the Purif again recently.

      • Curious George

        Who was veteran SO? Him or her?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Vicky. I guess she’s no SO anymore. Really pissed me off when I heard – no doctor on board. That’s just criminal neglect. I’m so tired of waiting to see the real criminals in their midst in jail and the key thrown away.

          • Curious George

            Actually, I am surprised that they even allowed the air lift to the hospital….

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              There was an airlift? oh, just saw that on ESMB.

            • Curious George

              Strange right? Wonder how this will explained…it’s such a theta environment,and yet….

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Not strange – DM wouldn’t want any PR flaps cause he’s so caring like that. Depends on who ordered the air flight and paid for it too!

              I wondered how they were able to start back in the St Kitts, Thomas, etc route again. Now I wonder if there are requirements when in their territory to have doctors and certain med facilities on board. I’m thinking of the SO slaves on board – Freewinds is the hardest to escape from – and a very hard life physically.

            • Curious George

              I would assume there will be no refunds for whatever course him & his wife were on…was he a long time scn? Just redoing the purif?

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Haven’t had much time to spend in the Bunker today, but I did just send the recommends to 200. So there’s that, anyway.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      201

    • Cece

      215. I get sleepless sometimes. So much good coming out of the mess. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • dagobarbz

    We saw Slaughter in Hollywood once. Jeff had his Lisa McPherson sign, and she yawped at us about what great friends she and Lisa were.

    I may have pointed out that her friendship appeared to be lethal. Don’t think she liked that much, being told off by Xenu.
    Here, we see Xenu at Comicon, outside the Galaxy Press booth.

  • Snippy_X

    Looks like Sweden now has a bigger Narconon Tombstone than Denmark.

  • BradCerenzia

    Sorry, but that family photo smacks of craziness, secrets and denial … perfect for a Lifetime TV movie of the week! And very sorry Aaron, about your family; I’ve been following your videos and hope that some day they hear the truth about the cult they’re swept up in.