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Scientology superstar: What it’s like to be big in Taiwan

WeStandTallDavid Pomeranz may not be a household name in America — even if he’s a well known figure inside Scientology — but over in Asia, he’s practically the second coming of L. Ron Hubbard or something.

We thought you’d enjoy these clips that turned up yesterday showing Pomeranz belting out everyone’s favorite Scientology ditty, “We Stand Tall” (note the Freedom Medal), and then enjoying the adulation of some of his Taiwanese fans.

Does David Miscavige understand what a rock star he’d be considered in Taipei? Has he thought about moving Int Base over there?

Has there been a single critical news investigation of Scientology in Taiwan, ever? Could this be the promised land?

 

 

 
Now, for a dose of reality, let’s check in with frequent Bunker contributor Chris Shelton!

 

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

What is art? We’re pretty sure that’s not it…

 
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As several readers pointed out, this seminar is by our South American favorite, Eduardo Galan…

 
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Can’t remember another time someone shared online about “regging into the wee hours.” Yikes.

 
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The scene yesterday inside the London org, celebrating World Humanitarian Day…

 
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BOOK NOTES
3D-Unbreakable

We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, so we’ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Tony Ortega’s upcoming appearances (and check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour)…

 
August 24: Boston, Boston Skeptics in the Pub, Hong Kong restaurant (1238 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge) 7 pm (with Gregg Housh)

Sept 15: Barrett the Honors College, Arizona State University, ASU in Downtown Phoenix campus, Walter Cronkite Theater, 5:30 pm

Sept 23: Cleveland, Parma Heights Library, 7pm sponsored by Center for Inquiry – Northeast Ohio

Sept 24: Minneapolis

Sept 27: Portland, Friendly House, 1737 NW 26th Ave, 12:45 pm, sponsored by Humanists of Portland

Sept 28: Seattle, Razzi’s Pizzeria, 7 pm, with Seattle Skeptics and Seattle Atheists

Sept 29: Vancouver, BC, Seven Dining Lounge, 7 pm

Oct 23: Sydney, Giant Dwarf Theatre (with Sen. Nick Xenophon)

Oct 25: Melbourne

Oct 28: Adelaide (with Sen. Nick Xenophon)

Oct 30: Perth

Past dates: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on August 20, 2015 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of LA attorney and former church member Vance Woodward

UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists

GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice

SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer
The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill
The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Hamtaro

    In recognition of the news of the day, I signed up for an Ashley Madison account under the name “David Miscavige.” I specified
    that I needed a submissive willing to tolerate extreme forms of abuse and
    who had to be less than 4’9″ tall. Hopefully I won’t get matched up with anyone named “Shelly.” Or “Lou.”

    • PRenaud

      ha, hope he gets one of the federal public servant who secretly registered, I worked with them for 30 years, had to leave they were driving me crazy…

      • jazzlover

        Probably because they were focusing on other things. Ya know, like the stuff they aren’t being paid to focus on 😉

    • LongtimeLurker

      Hamtaro, please don’t take offence, and I know you’re only a hamster, but I think there’s been an oversight and you might need to lower the height requirement.

      4’9″ in a good pair of heels could easily bring a woman up to “ego enturbulating” heights.

      What do you think?

  • TexasBroad

    Unless Tessa meant — reggae’d with the birthday boy — they’re not doing it right!

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Tessa’s tweet gave me the feeling that she tried to convince someone whose birthday it was that regging in the wee hours of the morning and tweeting about it was way more fun than spending party time with friends.

  • LongtimeLurker

    “Has there been a single critical news investigation of Scientology in Taiwan, ever?”

    How much reporting has there been of any kind?

    Despite what Scientology wants to believe, we all know the vast majority of humanity has never heard of it.

    Is there a chance that most Taiwanese (unless reading English language sources or perhaps if Taiwanese movie magazines and sites mention it re Tom Cruise) have literally never heard the word Scientology until they’re offered a stress test?

    God, it would be like the glory days in the US when people had no idea of the Church’s negatives.

    Hasn’t Taiwan suffered enough?*

    * Sentence written with no research to ascertain if Taiwan has suffered anything recently.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
  • The Library Report.

    Some of you know that I got a signed copy of TUML yesterday from wonderful TexasBroad.
    I mentioned that I will donate my unsigned copy to the largest public library in Ohio and so I did.

    It’s a beautiful, sunny, breezy day. I approach one of the librarian ladies in the main lobby, who looks like she is in her late 60’s, very nice smile and I can tell she read bajillion books, and it goes like this:

    – Hello. I would like to donate a book.
    – Sure, there is a bin over there. You can just put it there.
    (I look skeptical)
    – Would you like a receipt?
    – Yes, if it’s not too much trouble.
    – Not at all! (Looking for a receipt/donation form everywhere)
    – It’s a brand new book and it came out this year.
    – Oh yeah? Why don’t you sell it online?
    – Because I want people to have an access to it in the library. I have two copies, so I want to donate one.
    – Aw, thank you very much!
    – Welcome. My friend wrote it (sorry Tony, I just can’t help it) and it’s an important subject.
    (I put TUML on the counter and proceed filling out the donation form, while she picks the book up and starts really paying attention and exploring it and I sense all kinds of wheels turning in her head)
    – This is your friend?
    – Yeah. He is a journalist in NYC.
    – Wow. Thank you very much for your donation. I will personally take care of it.

    We then wished each other a wonderful day and I left with the receipt in my hand.
    The way she held the book at the end and the look on her face, tells me she’s probably going to read it herself first.

    End of Report 🙂

    • Photos:

      • Observer

        What a cool fountain!

        • It really is!

        • flyonthewall 2.0

          won’t all those giant books get wet and ruined in the fountain?

          • Them are Lego books, silly.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Lego! Yay!

            • HillieOnTheBeach

              OT, found out yesterday that the Juno Mission module will arrive to explore planet Jupiter next year. Aboard the module are aluminium Lego figurines of Jupiter, Juno and Galileo Galilei.

              Legos are everywhere!

            • LongtimeLurker

              GIMME DAT SPAEC LEGO!!!!

              Ahem, we AFOL prefer the term Minifig.

          • Observer

            Yes. Yes they will.

            • flyonthewall 2.0

              i guess no one cares if giants have nothing to read in Cincinnati. That is sad

            • LongtimeLurker

              BS fly!

              I’m sick of you pushing your pro-Buckeye Giant agenda here.

              You’re not fooling anyone, we all know those huge, hairy-footed assholes can’t read.

      • PlanetJ

        Ohhhhh..I love that fountain! If I ever make it up that way,I’ll have to swing by there to do some photography. I haven’t been up there since 08′ when my son was racing BMX.

        • Here is photo of my son there about 10 years ago.

          • PlanetJ

            What a cutie!!! 🙂
            Thank for sharing..it’s so beautiful!

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Aww, is he still that gorgeous? 🙂

          • daisy

            Ii cant believe I tried to break up your happy home, Your son is darling and I appreciate your book report .Didn’t you hate writing them in school. Good bye my sweet prince

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Booyeah!

    • B4you

      Cool, now i can go down there and borrow her 🙂

    • LongtimeLurker

      Dodo, I was super pissed when I got to “Why don’t you sell it online?” (way to footbullet, library person) but then at the end, thanks to the approach you took with her, it got awesome.

      You rock.

    • B4you

      Did you get her phone number?

      • Since you are going to borrow the book, I’ll let you do it.

    • TexasBroad

      That’s a very nice library report, wonderful Dodo the Laser.

    • April

      I used to work cataloging new books in a library, but I got fired because I spent 80% of the time reading the books rather than cataloging. I would totes read TUML before putting it on the shelf.

    • Always Amazed

      Awesome Dodo, excellent work.

  • flyonthewall 2.0

    Summer time is ending. This makes me sad but this song makes me happy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayE6Shlv598

    • LongtimeLurker

      Starting soon here, mate. Matey. Me old cobber! Ya drongo!

      God, I can’t wait. Lurker hates the winter.

      • flyonthewall 2.0

        ok ya bint!

    • PlanetJ

      Love this song!

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X *** Thursday, 20 August 2015.

    Good day Bunkerettes and Bunkeroos,

    Menphis (hello there) leads NYC with SFBay trailing
    Check Salt Lake City, it is begging for a few complaints about spamming.

    Flag the lies, whack a few bait & switch ads : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    F5… Justice League by Justice Bleeds enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX, and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15718590981/in/set-72157642802079293

  • B4you

    Why did the $cientologist cross the road?!?!
    Because you didn’t run him over!.!.! Nitwit

    • Sookie Sookie

      I’d rather seem him/her crossing the road to call Tory or Chuck for help in rejoining society and getting free of the whole mindf*ck.

    • To get a parking spot, but they forgot their car.

      • Snake Plissken

        To get a parking spot, but realized he so too much in debt to afford a car.

    • LongtimeLurker
      • SP Wogsy

        lolol

        Edited. Damn autocorrect.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I’ve been typing lol too much recently (although I never type it if I didn’t actually lol).

          So I thought I’d break it up with a visual representation.

          I do love me a joke that comes to an unexpected stop, like B4you’s.

          Also Charlton Heston! Don’t like his politics, love all his 70s sci-fi films.

          • MaxSpaceman

            (Actor raises long-barreled rifle above his head)

            “Over my cold, dead body.”

            Uhm, ok– no that you passed on, bro, how about banning assault weapons, 50 mm ammunition. And the un-licensed handguns.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah, that…was a turn off…

              But weirdly, all 3 of his 70s sci-fi are counter-culture / left wing.

              Confuzzled.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Soylent Gween, and the 2 others?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Soylent Green – obvious anti-Establishment subtext, re over-population and mistreatment of the poor. imho

              The Omega Man – although some have compared its antagonists, a cult of crazed nocturnal albino mutants called “The Family” to hippies and the main character to a libertarian fighting them, I don’t buy it.

              Instead I think its many small subversive elements count for more, the major one being that his love interest is African American and no one makes any mention of it. The main villain is a famous religious-right anchorman for a mainstream TV station.

              Planet of The Apes – Strong anti-racism subtext. Really strong anti-nuclear proliferation elements “You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!”

              All statements are imho – Sorry that took so long, my Disqus notifications are screwy.

              REFRESH

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb4eZ7Z5yk8

  • Observer

    Another stellar review of OT and Trump fan John Mappin’s Camelot Castle Hotel. These reviews are hard to beat for cheap entertainment!

    refresh

    • Extended Stay hotels sound luxury in comparison.

      • Sid

        Except if it’s an extended stay on the Freewinds floating hotel.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Scooby Doo
      urine
      caravans

      Oh, Scientology…will you ever win?

      Observer, be honest now…how long have you spent, in total, looking at the reviews for ‘Camelot’?

      • Observer

        A couple of hours, maybe. I consider it time well spent. Such snark!

        • Sherbet

          Could you step into the Bunker cellar and look at our Light Box, hmmmm? No obligation, of course.

        • LongtimeLurker

          You’ve shamed me. I think I must have spent at least that, more than once.

          Have you been to the dedicated exposé sites as well?

          I may have overdone it…

          • lynn

            *sheepishly raises hand* yep, me too. I didn’t understand the “Light box” room. One commenter basically said it was a room with a dimer switch..hahaha but I was still curious & so I went to their site. Hey! I have a dinning room with a dimmer switch..maybe I can….?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah, you should…. ; P

    • Sid

      Modeled after Sea Org accommodations everywhere.

      • lynn

        1 reviewer from LA commented that the hotel uniforms were the same as those seen in the LA CC area. Another who wasn’t familiar with sea org noted the ill fitting “navy-like uniforms”. Several claimed that those working at hotel were obviously from different country whose first language was not English. I wonder, did those sea org’rs sign a billion year contract to do maid service in a run down castle/hotel?

        • ze moo

          How much ‘religious study’ is included in the bathroom scrubbing and bed making?

          • lynn

            lol..not sure, but it seems as those activities don’t coincide due to all the negative comments on how filthy, dusty, unkempt the rooms were. 98% of the negative comments mentioned urine stained bedding, animal hair, thick layers of dust, moldy grout in the bathroom pods, torn carpeting, thread worn furniture…etc. Just awful for a place dependent upon customer reviews.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              YUCK! Aren’t there some kind of health regulations that cover this kind of thing? That’s disgusting!

            • lynn

              one would think! There seemed to be a few commenters saying there were going to contact the officials. This being in the UK, I’m not not familiar with their procedures. Clearly those that left good reviews were either friends, employees, or Sci’s that had never stayed.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Wasn’t there an article yesterday with him saying he wanted Donald Trump to say there?
              I DON”T THINK THAT’S GONNA HAPPEN!!!

            • lynn

              Oh Hell NO! He should not even suggest such a thing, clearly this place is a rat hole. There were several comments where they felt the staff appeared genuinely embarrassed by conditions. Can you imagine someone like Tom Cruise’s niece being sent there to work?

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              I can imagine Tom Cruise doing just about anything at this point. ;(

        • Sid

          And staff get paid 10 cents per hour.

          • lynn

            You know, I just always thought Sea Org workers were working in/for the Scientology buildings..never occurred to me they would be propping up other businesses such as this one & wonder how many other places are doing this, just because the owner is a Scientologist.

            • Sid

              I was half kidding about the staff pay. I don’t know if there are Sea Org there. Typically in Scientology businesses there are no Sea Org. Celebrities though do have Sea Org ‘handlers’ who work for them and report their doings to OSA.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          “Several claimed that those working at hotel were obviously from different country whose first language was not English.”

          Let me guess: their passeports are in the hotel safe.

    • Mockingbird

      LOL. Scientology based hotel tech . Poor service and reg the suckers mercilessly !

    • lynn

      I spent the a.m. looking at these reviews & having a great laugh at all the descriptions for the “Art” & the bathroom pods. Now, when I go to my facebook, the ads in my feed are for the Camelot Castle…ugh!

      • LongtimeLurker

        That’s great though. They’re paying to show ads to someone who will never go there.

        Same thing happened to me when Scientology did their big media blitz earlier this year. Because of my searches I was getting ads for all kinds of Scieno insanity.

        I clicked on a few to make sure it cost them money.

        • lynn

          I never thought of lookin at it that way, It just always creeps me out when ads show up like that.

          • LongtimeLurker

            I hated it too, I get it.

            Like I had literally just written about getting a petition together (forget what for – child abuse in Sea Org or whatever) and then I’d be looking at a row of 3 Scientology ads.

            Alll of them rife with lies, like “our help is your help”.

            Super creepy, no doubt.

            But I really believe almost no one would click on them AND most of the people typing in Scientology are anti, so they are accidentally targeting their ads directly at the people who know their crimes and dislike them the most.

            It’s pretty funny, typical footbullet.

            Do you know about ad-blocking add-ons for your web browser (sorry if you already do, not meaning to patronise)?

  • Dennis Leen

    The two girls are domestic servants from Philippines, which is famous for exports all the world over, especially in Asia where they have strict contracts and little rights. Of course they recognize their own native star with international fame, once. Taiwanese would not have heard about him.

  • B4you

    A $cientologist once told me, that the SeaBorg would clear the whole Universe. So i took him to the Planetarium and standing in front of wall sized picture of a corner of our milky way that stated.- This is only 0000000000000.1 % of galaxies in the universe. – I asked him; Are you sure?

    • Mockingbird

      Magical thinkers don’t worry about size or orders of magnitude. Besides, you can always sign up for another billion year contract !

      • B4you

        I always told those SO(B) member that i all ready signed a billion year contract last time i was around, so i don’t see the point signing a new one and my plan was to go around the sun 82 times more and then return? What’s the problem with these people?

        • Mockingbird

          I pointed out to them that if I sign another billion year contract each lifetime I will never be done ! They were not amused.

    • LongtimeLurker

      There’s that fantastic/terrifying animation which I would find a link to if our broadband wasn’t playing up, that does the series of staggered pull-backs from Earth, the solar system, our galactic arm, the local group, the Virgo Supercluster, etc etc.

      Do you know the one I mean?

      Ludicrous thinking.

      Good work on the Planetarium Truthhammer.

      • B4you

        The same old fart that kept talking about Universes like i was some household bleach powder with a hole in the bottom – yes i know who he is!

        • LongtimeLurker

          I’m so confused.

          • B4you

            Just stare at for a few hours, then it will go away 🙂

  • B4you

    • Judith Sylvester

      Gosh, I even felt a moment of compassion!

      • B4you

        Don’t even go there 🙂

        • Judith Sylvester

          Yes. It didn’t last long.

          • B4you

            *lol*

    • Sherbet

      “No!”

    • B4you

      It’s just how i like to see him, nothing personal!

    • KittyKatSpanker

      There was a shoop with a male stripper in front of them.

  • Judith Sylvester

    OT,and well, this is the only place I have to go to commiserate with Josh Duggar,” I have been the biggest hypocrite ever.” Here’s the problem, Josh, you’re not even that. In fact, you’re no bigger of a hypocrite than all Ashley Madison’s other customers. It’s just that being ordinary piece of sand isn’t good enough for your family, which always has to be the biggest most amazing thing ever.

    • LongtimeLurker

      buuuurnnnnn.

      You’re so right Judith.

      “I have been like millions of cheating spouses before me and yet to come.” that’s what he needs to be thinking.

    • Kim O’Brien

      i think what we really need to ask ourselves Judith ..is ..who among us has not claimed to be the bringer of the word of the holiest of holies …while not thinking about sticking your dong in one of the holiest of holies holy places ….while finger banging your sisters in their holy holes .

      • LongtimeLurker

        Holy cow!

      • Sherbet

        Is that a trick question??

        • Judith Sylvester

          It’s a good play on humblebrag.

    • aquaclara

      HIs poor wife is not allowed to divorce him according to those idiotic Quiverful rules. And she must keep having babies with that pervy cheater molester. I hope she starts thinking about the kind of life her kids are going to lead, when you have a dad in the house that can’t be trusted around kids. The whole thing makes my stomach turn.

      • Judith Sylvester

        “HIs poor wife is not allowed to divorce him according to those idiotic Quiverful rules.”

        Is that true? I suppose it is, more or less, even if it’s not a “rule” it’s for sure the position their Pastor would take, and we all know how difficult it is to stand up for oneself under that pressure.

        I’d be worried about STDs with that guy, who probably thinks his righteousness automatically protects him.

  • LongtimeLurker

    Slightly OT – So Twitter right….

    I’m only on there because ages ago someone here said, “I wish I tweeted, I’d say…” so I went and set up an account and offered to tweet it. Now when someone posts a relevant tweet here or elsewhere I go and share my thoughts.

    Today, this happened;

    A couple of days back I had said – Desperate woman asks for help. He kills her. Google agrees to help bury it. The truth re Per Wickstrom @ http://TonyOrtega.org
    #GoogleLies

    Then this person I don’t know (maybe I got retweeted?) said – It must stop.

    So that’s good, they get it.

    Then to be polite, I replied, with a quick – fingers crossed.

    Then some unrelated asshat, I assume a follower of the first person says this – …activism prolly works better thn crossing fingers. google how to get involved.

    First of all…screw off with your cutesy spelling. Secondly if you’re an activist, gimme some links, don’t send me to Google. I JUST SAID I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOOGLE!

    And finally; literally – LITERALLY every tweet on my feed or whatever it’s called, is about Scientology. For all this mouth-breather know I’m the freaking head of anonymous’ girlfriend.

    Obviously, CLEARLY I’m not just crossing my goddamn fingers.

    Why even respond with that? We’re theoretically on the same side, why open communications with a wilfully dense pseudo-insult?

    God I hate social media.

    • aquaclara

      Ok, but your replay of the posting thing has made me laugh til the dog is looking at me funny, so it was kinda worth it. “I JUST SAID I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH GOOGLE!” because what part of #GoogleLies did they miss?
      Thanks for the story. Keep your account, ok? There could be more stupid stuff to share.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Oh, I’m totally keeping it.

        Glad you laughed.

        I write the way I talk. : P

        • aquaclara

          We’ll be sure to say hi in person at the big Bunker clambake one day, and you get to regale all of us with the stories. Start saving em up.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Cool!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Haha!
    (refresh)

    • Sherbet

      He should get disconnected.

    • Sid

      “Sorry I got disconnected.”

      No Grant. I hung up on you.

      • Sherbet

        “There’s no such thing as disconnection!”

        • Sid

          Ha! That’s the one.

      • indie8million

        No Grant. I slammed the door in your face like I do every time the Sea Org guys come to my house without an invitation.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Where the heck was the Cardone/Duggan warning on that?

      I actually had to listen to him say ‘yo’ twice before the title popped up and I realised and stopped it.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Sorry, I removed the Facebook link (I didn’t know the video would pop-up here).
        I’ve been watching some of the videos he’s been uploading from the Freewinds. His Matthew McConagey-on-Meth sales shtick is painful to watch. And IMO he looks like hell!
        (refresh)

        • LongtimeLurker

          I wasn’t really upset.

          Holy crap that is not a good look.

          Love “Matthew McConagey-on-Meth “,

          Late last year I was way overdue for a haircut and since I was working from home I wasn’t grooming my facial hair as often as I otherwise would.

          One day the barista at my local cafe said, you look like Matthew McConaughey in True Detective.

          I got a haircut and shave that same day.

          Refresh
          http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/yIAVtX4lw-kl.jpg

          • Juicer77

            Shaggy is good look on Lurker.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Thanks Bottle-head Lady.

              Makes Lurker look literally 100 lbs lighter. And very pale.

              Weird.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            There are a lot of ladies who have a thing for McConagey. You should have worked it! 😉

            • LongtimeLurker

              I don’t have quite his bone structure, or accent.

              I was also slightly suspicious of the McConau-ladies.

              But now that you’ve made me think about again – sigh, you’re right, I should have tried.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Alright, alright, alright!

            • LongtimeLurker

              I know right?

            • Kim O’Brien

              DYING !!

            • Kim O’Brien

              even THIS version of him is in my spank bank ( yes ..i said it ..spank bank …us ladies have them too )

            • Frodis73

              You just made my night!!! XD

        • Juicer77

          He looks 20 years older in this picture.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            That was from this afternoon – and his voice was shot too!

          • HillieOnTheBeach

            He looks like he just dropped 20-30 pounds.

          • indie8million

            Oh yeah. If you look in the tech dictionary under the word, “Solid”, this is the picture you’ll see.

            I haven’t seen him in person for 3 years. Yes, this is positively, absolutely WORSE. So much for the idea of case GAIN in the “NEW AND IMPROVED SCIENTOLOGY.”

        • PlanetJ

          He does not look happy.

        • Kim O’Brien

          “Matthew McConagey-on-Meth sales shtick”

          that is kind of epic LOL

        • Always Amazed

          Could be the lighting, but check out the under eye bags.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            He needs to cold call Tom Cruise’s plastic surgeon ASAP.

        • PRenaud

          yurkkkk

        • SP Wogsy

          Scary. He looks really really bad.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Yes, I wonder whats going on. Stress, illness? He sure doesn’t look like a he’s been on pleasure cruise, does he?

  • SP Wogsy

    Wow! Who knew?!? Thanks so much for another great video Chris! Your work is truly gold!

  • J. Swift

    O/T: Satire can be vicious. This piece, however, is a whopper:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM2S-YlVAAErSTp.png

    • Sherbet

      No, a “Whopper” is a product sold by Burger King, whereas this “Foot Long” is, oh, well, you get the picture. 😉

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      How do the cold-meat specialists know where to cut that loaf exactly in half at 6″?

    • Doc M

      Leave it to the Post. You know, there was a time that the NY Post was a reputable evening NY newspaper, I suppose Tabloids sell more advertising and attract more readers.

  • Veronica

    Hi Chris! Great video, as always. I think that if I were ever going to try to make a video covering today’s topic, I’d end up about 2 inches from the camera, screaming, and getting spit all over the camera lens. So many distracting (and disturbing) things popped into my head while I was listening to your video — I wound up having to stop, back up, and replay. About half a dozen times.

    “Critical thinking and reason are not only built on a foundation of knowledge, but on the principle that a person needs to continually ask questions and be able to look for more.” Absolutely true, and, one would think, or at least hope, self-evident. In the fetid mire of modern American politics, though, God help you if you change your mind! The torch-and-pitchfork crowd will start shrieking “FLIP FLOP,” Funny how no politician is ever praised for re-evaluating a situation or stance based on new information. There’s only flip-flopping, and it’s bad, so don’t do it.

    Any chance you could swing by Texas for a little chat with their “education” department? It’s not just Texas, of course, that needs a whopping dose of Chris Shelton, but you gotta start somewhere, and it seems Texas just went off the rails with a new history textbook:

    Eleventh-grade U.S. history teacher Samantha Manchac is concerned about the new materials and is already drawing up her lesson plans for the coming year. She teaches at The High School for the Performing and Visual Arts, a public school in Houston.

    The first lesson she says she’ll give her kids is how textbooks can tell different versions of history. “We are going to utilize these textbooks to some extent, but I also want you to be critical of the textbooks and not take this as the be-all and end-all of American history,” she imagines telling her new students.

    She doesn’t want to rely solely on the brand-new texts because she says the guidelines for the books downplay some issues — like slavery — and skirt others — like Jim Crow laws.

    She says it’s “definitely an attempt in many instances to whitewash our history, as opposed to exposing students to the reality of things and letting them make decisions for themselves.”

    www DOT npr DOT org/sections/ed/2015/07/13/421744763/how-textbooks-can-teach-different-versions-of-history

    Then there’s Arizona:

    Judicial scrutiny of an Arizona law that led to the dismantling of TUSD’s Mexican American Studies program is raising questions whether the state sought to deny minority students access to programming that would improve educational outcomes.

    The question was raised by a three-judge panel at the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals Monday in a case led by two Tucson teens — Maya Arce and Korina Lopez — who are seeking to have the law overturned. The court did not render a decision Monday.

    The law in question prohibits courses that promote the overthrow of the United States government, promote resentment toward a race or class of people, and advocate ethnic solidarity rather than the treatment of pupils as individuals.

    http://tucson.com/news/local/education/tusd-teens-in-federal-court-over-arizona-s-ethnic-studies/article_ae2907a4-7816-534a-8993-3ab713dac507.html

    Gosh, I’m surprised to learn that “ethnic studies” promote and pave the way to overthrowing the US government. I guess it’s like how same-sex marriage leads to bestiality.

    You say, “People who get into dangerous cults unwittingly have their freedom of thought and freedom of action eroded away through purposeful manipulation of their emotions and thoughts. By then censoring what they can read or listen to, cult leaders then insure that their members never hear anything critical of the cult leader or find out about arguments that are in opposition to what the cult leader says is fact.” Preaching to the choir makes the choir feel all warm and fuzzy about themselves — and (potentially) that they are in a life or death struggle with other choirs. Nobody learns anything this way, and no social or political progress is ever made. It also leads to permanent forehead-bruising amongst the über-enlightened such as myself. (Kidding. I know I’m manipulated by my go-to news sources.) Ideally it would not be necessary for “news” reports to have warning labels, but it would be nice if they did. Just to make me feel better. I know they would not accomplish anything, since human nature, or hubris, or ignorance, or something, makes so many people think that warnings are for others, but not them. We try things at home even when we are specifically told not to, and the next thing we know we’re in the ER — or in a profoundly subverted democracy.

    Also, this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y

    • LongtimeLurker

      “I’d end up about 2 inches from the camera, screaming, and getting spit all over the camera lens. ”

      Sounds arty.

      The history whitewashing / schoolbook changing cinservative agenda thing is happening here too, imho.

      So that’s freaking great.

    • Kim O’Brien

      Oh .i like you already 🙂 You should meet Frank Lee .( look down thread for his pearls of wisdom) He lives in Texas and is super , duper smart about book learnin in Texas and is not racist at all ( like , totally , not at all ..don”t worry about it , it’s fine .. ) I will buy you several drinks and provide pot . You will need them both

      • Sandy

        Guess what, Kim… Frank is female. I kid you not. Don’t remember why she said she took on that name.

        • Kim O’Brien

          no way . I don’t believe it . What woman ..who has given birth …would talk about immigrant children that way ? Oh fuck it …he/she is just a crazy teabagger freak who lives in Texas and was involved in scientology . They should just move to a gated community in Idaho

          • Sandy

            You’re too funny. Ya – I’m retired, so can lurk around in the background as much as I want and picked up that convo one day. She claims it was her ex that was born in. I believe about 1/2 the stories.

          • LongtimeLurker

            I just reread some with a female in mind. I think it’s at least a possibility.

            They’re rarer than the male but occasionally extremely virulent.

            Have met a couple over here.

            But either way, pffft

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            So much hate. She once said she is more like me than I can know. I don’t think so.

          • daisy

            I know this isn’t going to win me any popularity contest which is too bad cause I am really quite delightful. I did not agree with Franks ideology it is polar opposite of what I believe. I do however , take issue with the Fuck YOUs, name calling and telling him to leave. That is not our job. We are not hosting this event Not only that do you really expect to enlighted or offer an alternative way to think. when you dissolve into childish immature unreasoning behavior. I can swear like a sailor ,and have , but it is not directed hate speech to my bunker mates except to the COS Come on they are a mind abusing cult. Its warranted If you had used that language and behavior in the seediest biker bar in Texas you would be kicked out. Just my opinion take it or leave it. If you don’t agree by all means Fuck Me .

            • Kay

              Great comment daisy.

        • Frodis73

          Seriously? I have heard Frank speak of his ex and always assumed it was a wife he was talking about. Wow. I am shocked.

        • Sandy

          Without paging & paging thru her stuff, here’s one

          Frank Lee Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner • 15 days ago

          Naa, woman to woman, I think you look kinda sexy!2

    • Frodis73

      You should check out a great doc called ‘Revisionaries’. It is available for streaming on Netflix (might be on YT too) right now. It’s about this exact issue of the TX school board changing textbooks. It starts out with a focus on evolution but then goes on to explain how they also messed with other subjects and totally downplay slavery, civil rights, feminism…anything with a whiff of liberalism. Since TX is the largest (or one of the largest) buyers of school text books most states tend to follow their lead and buy what TX buys. This made me want to yell, spit and thrown things. You can read more at the imdb link below. I highly recommend it, esp if you have kids in jr high/high school or will in the coming years. Imo, crap like this is helping to bring this country down and the rest of the world laughs at how dumb we are. 🙁
      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2091398/

      • Veronica

        Thanks! I’ll go take a look at that.

    • B4you

      All right – Ladies… Line up for a Dance and i will change your world!

    • Thanks so much for your positive review and confirmation of the things I was saying. I am glad to find that I am so on-point on these things. I mean it. It’s not always obvious when I’m writing this stuff that anyone is going to agree with me!

      • Veronica

        Actually, it could be interesting if someone did disagree with you. Part of what makes your videos so good is that they challenge nay-sayers to say something at least a little more substantive than “nay.” Remember in elementary school math classes how we always had to “show our work?” You do this in your videos… methodically and logically building up to your main points so that there’s no question about how you got there. If someone disagreed with you — I can’t imagine how they’d do it. Would they say your facts are wrong? That your logic is flawed? That your conclusions are therefore invalid? I guess they could try, They would fail, of course, but hearing their arguments could be useful, in a know-your-enemy sort of way. (Just a bit of hyperbole there for dramatic effect.) As you point out in your video, we can, potentially, learn a lot from people who disagree with us. Unfortunately, our society has become so polarized, so “us vs. them,” that many (all?) of the most important arguments/discussions are over before they start, with each side saying “We’re right because we are.” That just makes people angrier, more frustrated, and less willing to enter into any further discussion. Please keep fighting the good fight: hopefully some of your insightful pragmatism will rub off on people and thus raise the level of public discourse. And hopefully this will happen before the upcoming presidential election gets into full swing.

        • I will definitely keep fighting the good fight as long as you keep giving me such amazing praise! I work very hard to get my message out there each week and will continue to do so. I don’t mind people disagreeing with me, as long as they actually understand what I’m saying and can see the points I’m making first. So often, the disagreements come from emotional reactions to hot-topic words that ignite their passions and they aren’t thinking so much as just knee-jerk shooting from the hip. However, that doesn’t mean I always have to be right by any stretch. I definitely learn a lot from people who disagree with me and point up facts and data I don’t have or give me an alternative point of view with which to look at the data. Thanks Veronica.

          • Veronica

            “I don’t mind people disagreeing with me, as long as they actually understand what I’m saying and can see the points I’m making first. So often, the disagreements come from emotional reactions to hot-topic words that ignite their passions and they aren’t thinking so much as just knee-jerk shooting from the hip.”
            Argh. That’s one of the many things I really can’t stand about US politics. Rattling off “talking points” and buzz words is just incendiary and evasive. From what I understand, this is exactly what Scientologists are “trained” to do? Or is it just a sort of dialect that one picks up passively and gradually? Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachman, for example, not only sound pre-programmed, but they don’t even seem to understand their own talking points, let alone anyone else’s. This makes meaningful dialog basically impossible, as I’m sure you are aware. On top of everything else we have the vocabulary wars. Asking questions about somebody’s religion doesn’t make me a bigot. Fighting to keep abortion safe and legal doesn’t mean I’m advocating abortion, protesting wars doesn’t mean that I don’t support the troops, wanting to keep prayer out of public schools doesn’t mean I’m at war with Christianity, and socialism does not mean communism, FFS.

            Jeeze, now I’m depressed. I’m going to go have a sandwich, and I look forward to your next video. 🙂

  • it’s late enough for off-topic… I know we have a few fans of the peculiarities of English slang and I think you’ll enjoy this recent Guardian post on the “Criminals Alphabet”… I’ve also added a pic that seems so obvious but has never been done before [I think]… I think it might become a bit of a fad…. (and yes, we have ‘bollocks”)

    The criminal’s alphabet

    Can’t tell your turtles from your hotplate hamsters? Wise up with this indispensable guide to prison slang

    Across the pavement

    To go across the pavement is criminal parlance for robbing banks and security vans. The Wembley Mob (a gang of bank robbers from the late 1960s and early 70s) pioneered the method of driving the getaway vehicle up on to the pavement outside a bank and blocking the entrance. They were known as a “crash-bang gang” – they would rely on the element of surprise by “crashing” the bank doors open and then firing a shotgun into the ceiling in order to elicit fear and compliance.

    April

    A weapon, as in April fool = tool. If a villain tells you he is going to sort you out with his April, don’t think: “Well, it’s only June now so I’ve got plenty of time.” It means they are going to get a weapon and intend to inflict serious injury on you.

    Baron

    An old-fashioned term for the prisoner who would run the black market on each prison wing. It dates back to the days when tobacco was the only currency in prison and whoever had access to large amounts of “snout” could virtually control their wing.

    Battle taxi

    Any police vehicle used to transport riot squad officers to an incident or protest; the name derives from the fact that the officers are hyped up and ready to face “the enemy”.

    Bed and breakfast

    A night in the punishment block before appearing in front of the governor for adjudication, or an overnight stay in any prison while en route to another one.

    Bilking

    The practice of eluding payment for goods or services by making a quick getaway. These days, it is mostly the preserve of motorised bandits and car thieves, who will pull into a petrol station, fill their tank with fuel and then drive off without paying.

    Bottle squad

    An undercover squad dedicated to investigating and catching pickpockets, who mingle with crowds in railway stations and shopping centres and try to catch them in the act. It’s known as the bottle squad because of the criminal slang for working pickpockets, “on the bottle”, meaning to follow someone closely (rhyming slang: bottle and glass = arse; “be on someone’s arse”).

    Budgie syndrome

    What a lot of those who regularly use the prison gym seem to suffer from. It’s a disease that makes them pose or parade up and down in front of the full-length mirrors, preening and chirping at their own reflection. Every prison gym will have a large cohort of body-builders who act as though they are on Muscle Beach, grunting and stretching and working out, but always with one eye on themselves in the mirror.

    Bujo/bag game

    A Gypsy fortune-telling con that goes back at least 200 years. It involves convincing the mark that their money has been cursed. They are told to seal it in a cloth bag and bring it to the elder, or shaman, in order for it to be blessed and have the curse lifted. During the “blessing” the money is secretly removed from the bag and replaced with worthless paper or stones.

    Charlie Big Spuds

    The generic insult for anyone who walks around giving it the Barry (Barry McGuigan = big ’un = acting in a cocky way), a bully who may have a tendency to fold when confronted. It’s particularly used in prisons, where some criminals try to reinvent themselves. Other forms are Billy Big Bollocks or Jack the Biscuit.

    Commy burgs

    Commercial burglars, the people who will break into warehouses, shops or factories in their pursuit of ill-gotten gains. Commy burgs are unlikely to come across anyone during their crime, so theirs is seen as an entirely impersonal offfence, acquisitive rather than violent.

    Copsicles

    A slang term for the new breed of police officers who patrol on bicycles, particularly apt in the winter months, when they have to brave the bad weather.

    Diesel

    Slang for prison tea. Made with one huge netting teabag in a copper boiler the size of the average family bath, weaker than a knock-kneed sparrow with emphysema and more bitter than a miser who has lost a penny down a bottomless well, prison tea is not for the faint-hearted.

    Drummer

    A word dating from the 1920s for a burglar who can get into places even when they are “as tight as a drum”. Houses are sometimes referred to as “drums”, as in “I went up to his drum but he wasn’t in.” If someone in prison were to tell you he was in for “drumming”, you shouldn’t therefore assume that he’s a percussionist.

    Ekky

    Another word for the police and comes from the fact that, when seen in the rear-view mirror of a vehicle, the “police” sign reads – ECILOP (“ekkylop”, which is shortened to ekky). Slang names for the police can be extremely localised and rarely heard beyond a specific manor or region. For example, in Streatham, south London, the police are known as “the shrubs” because Streatham police station is situated on Shrubbery Road.

    Fido

    An acronym (Fuck it, drive on) used by the police for any crime or offence they witness but deem unworthy of their attention.

    FTS

    Fuck the System is the common cry of the prisoner, and a common way of signing off jail mail to others in the same position. To British prisoners, “the system” is everything from straight society and the police to the courts and prison – one big mass which they believe is permanently against them.

    Growlers

    An 18th-century criminal word for pistols, as in “I’d have been taken by the watchman if I’d not had my growlers with me.” Pistols were also known as barkers because of the noise they made when discharged. In those days, even burglars tended to carry at least one pistol: homeowners tended to dish out their own brand of justice when catching criminals in the act.

    Have it up!

    In the typical illegal street-trading team there will be the trader, the one who has the patter and does the selling, and the look-out, or “doggy’s” (doggy’s eye = spy). The doggy’s will hump the gear, help set up the pitch, then keep an eye out for police and trading standards officers. The warning cry of “Have it up!” means pack everything fast, the cops are coming. A cry of “Have it up!” on any criminal enterprise is cause for concern.

    Hobbit shop

    Almost every prison has a hobbit shop – a workshop where mind-numbing, repetitive work, such as putting washers on bolts or making prison brooms, can be undertaken for a wage of around 10p a day. Any prisoner with an ounce of self-respect will try to avoid the hobbit shop – only hobbits are happy to work there.

    Hotplate hamster

    A screw who wangles duty on the hotplate in order to eat prisoners’ rations rather than pay the price of a meal in the subsidised staff canteen.

    IC8

    This is an addition to police identification codes – the shorthand for a person’s national or racial origin; it is code for a “ginger male”.

    Jekyll

    If something is classed as Jekyll, it means it is false, a fake, not the real thing. It is second-level rhyming slang: Jekyll and Hyde = snide = fake.

    Jiggling and scissoring

    Jiggling can be used on older vehicles, using a car key (pretty much any one will do) in a fast up-and-down and side- to-side action to catch the tumblers in motion – give it a sharp twist when you get a bite. Scissoring is using a large pair of stainless-steel scissors: insert the point into the lock, wrench them up and down to break the tumblers, give them a quick twist, and the lock should spring open. It should take no more than a few seconds.

    John Wayne

    This is prison-issue toilet paper, because it is so very tough, just like the cowboys played by the actor.

    Kanga

    Slang for a prison officer (kangaroo = screw). The word, is widely used in every prison in the country by cons.

    Little fellas

    A slang phrase for cigarette ends, the term is widely used in northern prisons, as in “Blimey, I’m dying for a smoke, you got any little fellas?”

    LOB

    Police acronym meaning “load of bollocks”, usually marked on forms and personal notebooks to indicate that the officer does not believe a word of what they are being told.

    Moon

    In prison moon is taken to mean “month”, as in “I see Jerry got three moon for that bit of work.”

    MOP

    A police acronym for “member of the public”, used as shorthand when filling in notebooks and reports. The police use many acronyms, and different forces often use their own local versions. MOP, however, is standard for the majority of, if not all, police forces.

    Non-stimulant pack

    This is issued to Mormons in the British prison system instead of the normal brew pack, which is given to those of all other religious denominations. It contains hot-chocolate powder and Ovaltine instead of teabags and coffee sachets. The packs are issued weekly in prison.

    The other people

    This term may be London specific, as I’ve never heard anyone from outside the Smoke using it. It’s a name for the police, as in “Don’t trust the geezer, I hear he’s been having a trade with the other people.”

    The Out

    This is how prisoners refer to the big world outside of the prison walls and fences, as in “I knew him on The Out”. The Out is where all prisoners long to be. And, yes, it should always have capital letters.

    Polo

    If someone tells you they are polo it means they have no money (rhyming slang: Polo mint = skint).

    Quack

    Probably from the Afrikaans kwaksalwer, meaning a “hawker of salve”, or somebody who sells medicines, this is a prison doctor. They are doctors, but not as you know them. Though it doesn’t apply to every one, in my own personal experience of more than three decades of imprisonment, the majority of prison doctors don’t really prioritise their bedside manner and are more interested in pleasing the governor than in easing pain or healing the sick. Most are prison officers who have taken a first aid course which entitles them to wear a white coat and work in the prison hospital, dispensing aspirin and plasters. They are not to be confused with real doctors.

    RTFL

    Used between police officers, this stands for “Read the fucking log” – an instruction for officers to familiarise themselves with the log recording what has been going on before they come on duty.

    Snow-droppers

    Quack
    This means someone who makes a living by stealing clothes from washing lines (as opposed to someone who steals only underwear and who is known as a “pervert”). This crime was particularly prevalent in the Victorian era, when cotton and linen sheets were a pretty lucrative lay (criminal specialism). These days, snow-droppers usually go for designer clothing. Although it can be a fairly profitable crime, it is still way down on the scale of serious theft and is practised mainly by kids and amateurs.

    Touching dogs’ arses

    The charge of stealing cars used to be called TDA (Taking and Driving Away a motor vehicle), and young criminals found it amusing to insult amateur car thieves by saying they were into touching dogs’ arses. Amateur car thieves steal cars just for the fun of it.

    Undies

    Undies is youth slang for undercover police officers. Unfortunately, the laws of the UK do not include a defence of agent provocateur (as does the law in some countries), so if a police officer (undercover or in plain sight) incites a citizen to commit a crime there would be no defence for that citizen. Watch out for the undies!

    Vegetable patch

    Some prisons do not have a specific room for the communal television and so it is placed centrally on the wing and prisoners must bring their cell chairs to sit on. This spread of chairs is usually known as the vegetable patch because it’s where the “vegetables” (those who want to watch) sit. When a prisoner ends up in the vegetable patch they are classed as a cabbage or Cabbage Patch Kid (after the freaky-looking American dolls of the 1980s), or as a hobbit.

    Whizzer/whiz mob

    These slang terms for a pickpocket have largely fallen out of vogue since their heyday in the 1940s and 50s. Whiz mobs used to work the crowds at racecourses, picking pockets then blending into the throng. The origin of “whiz” is uncertain, but some people say it’s to do with the speed with which these criminals could dip a crowd.

    You want some?

    The battle cry that has led to violence outside every pub, club and football ground and on every prison landing. It means: “Would you like me to nut you or punch you in the face, ’cos I’m ready for action?” It’s a warning not to be ignored. The “some” mentioned in this phrase is violence.

    You want some, or what?

    Again, a possible precursor to violence, but this time with a get-out clause. The antagonist, while ready and willing to offer violence, may also be looking for a way out and be open to a bit of verbal being the end result – as long as the target is suitably contrite.

    Zombie

    A zombie is what the police call an officer close to retirement and now merely going through the motions. It can also mean a lazy officer. Most police officers hate zombies with a passion, as they tend to make everyone else’s job harder.

    • To order The Criminal Alphabet for £11.99 go to bookshop.theguardian.com

    • B4you

      Ok! nice to have next time i go to the joint.

      • Always Amazed

        In the UK. ☺

  • nottrue
    • Sid

      Yeah, it’s the “We’re no different than any other religion” defense.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        But what other religion would send out an embarrassing letter like this? They’re creeps.

    • Doc M

      Same old bullshit rhetoric. Does Karen Pouw really exist. Why does the church spend the time, energy and money to respond, it’s too little too late as anyone who has seen “Going Clear” knows the real story. The church is very much like Bill Cosby, not knowing when to keep their mouth shut. It’s amazing how in some ways the church can be so sharp (investments, keeping DM quietly out of the media) while with their P.R. they’re so childish. It really is a puzzle to me.

      • jazzlover

        I suspect that there are a fair amount of people (never in’s) that still doubt the validity of anything presented in “Going Clear”. I know it sounds impossible, and it is sad if I am right, but it is THIS country we’re talking about after all.

        • Doc M

          Those are the people Jazz, that don’t read, meaning a newspaper, a book, internet news etc, it’s doesn’t sound impossible, because these same people take Sarah Palin seriousl, or Believe that Donald Trump will be president or even believe that Bill Cosby is innocent and it’s a conspiracy, they’re all round us.

          Makes me sound like a snob, but I don’t care, there might not be critical thinking in the church but there sure as hell is a shortage of it outside the church as well.

          • jazzlover

            Ya think? LOL. It is kinda scary. I expect it out of children because critical thinking is less focused on in school systems than ever before, but still…..I like to joke with my kids by the way — “Hey at your age, I was splitting the atom. What about you?” Always gets a big laugh 🙂

            • Madison KinSmed

              Hey, Jazz, don’t know how old your kids or where are but my kid is 12 so in 6th grade last year. Year 1 of the U.S. Common Core standards for my state. It was amazing how much time was spent on teaching the kids how to think. Sometimes maybe too much (esp. in math bc sometimes the only way to respond to the question “What did you do to get your answer?” is “math”)

            • jazzlover

              In my state, standards have been changed drastically — as in more focus than ever on teacher performance and pressure to be more “administrative” about education. It seems to be less about thinking and more about by the numbers. I was spoiled.

      • Frodis73

        I like the semi-threat that Freedom has been investigating the paper. Lol. Also, she expects to hear back from them and they better have watched those videos about ‘Going Clear’. Hey KP! I watched the videos and instead of dealing with any of the allegations made in ‘Going Clear’ I now have more questions for you. They are so dumb at times it’s incredible.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          It’s a doozy of a letter anyway you slice it.

          “Under Mr. Miscavige’s leadership, the Church has grown more in the last 10 years than in its previous 50 years combined.” Thanks to Alex Gibney in less than 6 months more than 7 Million people are now familiar with the CO$ and that’s just in the US – with the UK and Canada about to follow. This seems to dwarf (yes, I said it) any achievement by COB.

          And what’s with claiming “linchpin of Gibney’s film’ of Going Clear was the Headley’s lawsuit? WTF?

          • Doc M

            Maybe, the logic behind it is to tell a lie enough until it becomes the truth. However they might, at least, try to improve their P.R. news releases. I have to believe they can afford to hire a reputable and intelligent firm, which would do wonders to help their image. After all, good P.R. is what made the Kardashians or Paris Hilton so successful.

            Btw, if they do happen to hire a good P.R. firm, please don’t blame it on this post.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Any PR advice would probably be to cut all previous ties to and mentions of LRH/Scientology/Dianetics. Rebrand under a new name as a self-help movement and start all over, only keeping parts of the Tech which can be combined with other more acceptable practices. IDK

        • LongtimeLurker

          With it’s current staff quality Freedom couldn’t investigate how to find the nearest Starbucks.

          • MarcabExpat

            Even if they were at Flag at the time.

        • aquaclara

          ^^^. Very much yes.
          PS I have a “Frodis 2” tale for you from today. It’s been raining all day, but Woofy Clara (aka Frodis 2) has never let that stop him before. Well, doggie middle age must be settling in. I am out in the yard gathering his frisbees for a toss, his fav game ever. He’s always been like the postal service–neither rain, nor snow, etc, etc. stops him from playtime.

          Woofy sees the rain and retreats to the porch. I get soaked while he is high and dry. He pops out for his cameo appearance, catches a few, and again, tucks back in under cover, while mommy picks up the frisbees. Rinse and repeat. I, of course, have a serious conversation with him. And he is probably laughing.

          Ha! Now where’s MY cookie, Woofy?

      • indie8million

        She exists. She called a friend of mine and ran her suppressive bullshit on him – invalidation about him not joining the SO, stab, stab, stab at him for being an artist instead of routing in, etc. A number of months later, he committed suicide. F you, Karin Pouw.

        • PlanetJ

          I’m so sorry to hear that! Fuck her,indeed.

          • indie8million

            Thank you, PlanetJ. Indeed.

            Whenever I’m ready to come out from under the radar (when I’m damned good and ready) I’ll tell THAT whole story, and others. Working on some things with some friends right now but that whole story is gonna curl some people’s whiskers.

            Oh, and did I mention Pamela Lancaster Johnson? She must be related to Karin is all I can say. She has “bitch” down to a fine art – and artists are her favorite target.

            But that’s another story for another day.

            Thanks again – and to the likers, too.

            • PlanetJ

              Take your time..no one here will rush you. ((hugs))

            • indie8million

              Very nice of you, PlanetJ. 🙂 I’m a strong believer in things happening at the right time. In all things.

        • Doc M

          How old is she? It seemes here emotional growth stopped somewhere along the line.

          • indie8million

            Middle aged. If you’re familiar with how a suppressive person becomes one (supposedly), her emotional growth probably stopped with that bullet was 3 inches away from her face. Frozen in that time of terror. Plus, her lion tamer keeps cracking his whip.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Wow.

          So she is just like her letters, IRL.

          She must wake up every day just bursting with joie de vivre.

          Winning!

    • Intergalactic Walrus
    • anoni81b4u

      I like how she called it “made for T.V. ” Like that has anything to do with the price of body thetans on Teegiac !

    • Frodis73

      I like the claim that 4000 people were at the opening of those stupid new buildings–yeah, right. She also complains that the paper failed to report on it. Probably because anytime the press shows up they keep them away from things…why would they even bother? Such butthurt.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      “And the post noted that Jolly’s wife Laura will be appearing as a model in the church’s annual charity fashion show next month.”

      How adorably charitable, a vanity fashion show!

    • indie8million

      Oh my. There are only 2 comments on this article. That seems a little lean. Thanks for the head’s up, NotTrue.

      I wonder what it would look like if everyone made one comment. Hmmm… http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/church-of-scientology-says-item-noting-david-jollys-upcoming-appearance/2242128

      • PRenaud

        I just did…

        • LongtimeLurker

          Me three.

    • lynn

      “The Church’s Freedom Magazine has investigated the Times’ corporate
      and financial circumstances. According to public accounts, the Times has
      a $28 million original loan which your employer does not seem able to
      repay.” In other words, OSA dug up some other shit, but we’re just threatening you with what’s public knowledge, for now.

    • aquaclara

      Perfect. Must tell all my friends and family in Clearwater. Hurray for big screens in Clearwater theaters.

    • Madison KinSmed

      “Please confirm that you have viewed each of the above listed videos.” (From K Pouw’s letter ‘re the Tampa Bay Times’ article about David Jolly, 8/20/2015). WTF? What’s she going to do if they don’t confirm, sue them? Who writes things like that to a newspaper?

      • scottmercer

        Please confirm you viewed the videos! THANK YOU! Now interview this ashtray!! THANK YOU!!

    • Sunny Sands

      Thank you, Karin Pouw, that letter helps the anti-sci cause. And the funny thing is you can’t even see it. That’s what all that “training” does for you.

    • Madison KinSmed

      I wanted to post the following in the TBT comments but I don’t want to give any of my info and even Yahoo wants a tel # to send a verification so I’m just going to post it here. Feel free to copy-n-paste w or w/o edits :
      Is the COS attorney threatening the TBT with her “That said, I expect to hear back from you…”? Sounds like typical scientology: threaten and try to ruin anyone who speaks against the church. Yikes, what kind of church does that?

  • marie

    So many questions. Is xenu another word for god? What type of animal is this? What type of amends project? Can you “sorta” make amends? What she do that requires amends? Such OT7. Much never-in confusion.

    • Xenu is more like a demon from hell in scientology.
      And Kirstie is just dumb. The animal is lemur, she owns a bunch.

      • lynn

        Her level of ignorance is astounding.

      • LongtimeLurker

        She owns lemurs?

        I thought the US really tightened up exotic animal ownership?

        I feel really bad for those lemurs.

        • indie8million

          Don’t worry. They are all eating the organic leftovers from her restaurant…

        • PantalonesCalienteYDelicioso

          I wish the US hadn’t only tightened up the laws for the regular citizens who would like to own exotic animals! I can’t have a couple dozen lemurs but KA can!?

          • LongtimeLurker

            Obviously when I talked about tightening the laws, I assumed Bunkerers would be exempt.

            You should totally have lemurs.

            • PantalonesCalienteYDelicioso

              I must have dozens upon dozens of lemurs! And I shall train them to act as my minions! Once initial evaluations have been completed, the 6 best lemurs will be appointed as my elite guard-and-thievery-team that I pay in mangoes, microfiber extra-cushioned beds, and potato chips!

            • LongtimeLurker

              That’s a hell of a plan.

            • PantalonesCalienteYDelicioso

              And as I said before, if only the US hadn’t tightened up the laws to prevent the regular citizens such as myself from owning exotic animals! Those government jerks are ruining everything! 😉

          • madame duran

            Part of a family reunification program? 😉 (Kirstie would be a very LARGE lemur)

            • PantalonesCalienteYDelicioso

              I only want the lemurs, no Kirstie Allen. She’s too expensive to feed.

    • Sid

      Xenu is Ming the Merciless on a bad day.

    • anoni81b4u

      Watch “trapped in the closet” episode of southpark.
      Read Wikipedia about scientology and scientology controversy.
      There are too many good articles on this blog to name .
      Watch “going Clear” or “scientology and me” or just about anything on youtube about scientology not put up by that group.
      After you do all this and have a reasonable amount of knowledge of the scam.. start making fun of every part of it!

    • LongtimeLurker

      Responded.

      Refresh

    • Cedilla

      Marie.
      Xenu is another word for SCAM!
      You daft woman!
      What the hell do you think Tony’s blog is all about?
      Get with the friggin program!
      Damn!

      • Sherbet

        marie gets it. Yes, she does.

    • indie8million

      I think that Kirstie’s condition is somewhere down around “c. copyright”. That would be just south of confusion.

    • mon elle

      Anyone with a passing familiarity with of Genesis 1 knows God created humans after everything else.

      It does not take in-depth study to find out what the Bible says on the subject. First chapter in the first book.

      If this an indication of the superiority of Study Tech ….

      • LongtimeLurker

        But surely the bigger issue is that she doesn’t believe in god anyway?

        Why not say, “whichever Thetan created this universe as a game and then forgot, made animals…” etc.

        Sorry if I got that thetan/universe/game thing wrong everyone.

        • mon elle

          Point. In my world the generic title “God” is the deity associated with the Bible; most other faith systems actually use the name of their deity (or deities).

          By referring to a generic “God” who made animals, Ms. KA is stating an opinion in a fashion that would allow the uninformed to assume she’s talking about a shared deity vs. the Scientology belief that human existence is the result of a group decision by a bunch of random thetans and a megalomaniacal dictator with a population control issue.

          If she does believe that the God of the Bible and the entities/theories propagated by Scientology are the same … she needs to pay a lot more attention and should redo the last five OT levels.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Yep.

            “…stating an opinion in a fashion that would allow the uninformed to assume… ” Such a classic Church ploy.

            Unless as you say, she thinks it’s true. She does seem kinda dumb.

            If she responds to me (like that’ll happen) I might steal your “redo the last 5 OT levels” line.

            • marie

              You might get Dicked too! Dicks for everyone!

          • George Layton

            what was the name they used for God before biblical times?

          • scottmercer

            She does not believe in the God of the Bible, but is implying that she does. “The only way to control people is to lie to them.” – L. Ron Hubbard

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      “God made animals because he screwed up with humans…sort of a little amends project”

      Per wiki: up to 90% of all lemur species face extinction within the next 20 to 25 years.

      Better get cracking on that planet clearing project of yours. Chop! Chop!

      • mon elle

        The only clearing on her mind is a buffet.

        Scientology is focused on clearing her bank accounts.

      • madame duran

        Judging by the tweet, I’m not certain if the “little amends project” was done by HER or God. But hey, that’s Kirstie for you. Clear as mud.

    • Jo

      Cute doggy, love his beard. Good thing, animals don’t give a shit about $cientology.

      • LongtimeLurker

        They’re born OT.

    • indie8million

      Human hater. Didn’t Ron say something, in Science of Survival, about how certain low-toned beings think more of animals than humans? Maybe that’s why Kirstie is so mean to Leah, huh? She’s “just” a person, not a saintly creature, like the lemur.

  • Interesting article…

    “Tom Cruise’s Former Scientology Assistant, Photographer Now Hollywood Movie Producer”
    http://www.showbiz411.com/2015/08/19/tom-cruises-former-scientology-assistant-photographer-now-hollywood-movie-producer

    That’s the dude who followed JB and Marty in Texas with Tommy Davis.
    It was also reported he was TC’s punching bag.

    • I watched bits of those Michelle Stafford videos he “produced”… god, they were awful… I left a message for her saying it was probably the worst decision of her life to give up her highly paying soap job about a year ago… suffice to say that if he’s the guiding light for this new production company we’re looking at guaranteed fail!

      What I did find interesting is the Mad Men link… in THR’s story posted here earlier about a ‘piad for Cruise type character fiance’ I’m starting to wonder if there’s a bit more than just a coincidence…. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/es-arrangement-pilot-drawing-comparisons-816068?facebook_20150820 … here’s my comment there which now seems a tad more interesting given the story you just posted

      pic

      • There is a book out called Movie Star and possibly a TV show now too.

      • indie8million

        I don’t know for sure but didn’t Michelle leave because Michael Fairman was still working on the show? Haha. That man is SOOOOO cruel and suppressive! (sarcasm) I’ve never known a more gentle man. But, hey, he’s declared, right? So how could Michelle do lines with him every day?

        Seems Michael comes out the winner on that one. He’s still workin’ – AND not donating to the IAS! Maybe now he’ll be able to put some away for retirement.

        • marie

          I know she told him that he had an enemy at work.

          One of her bff co-workers is very vocal on social media & is quite anti-scn. There’s no way that MS can’t not see her friend’s tweets. They remain friends.

          The hilarious thing? MS’s character tends to end up at The Miscavige Institute for the Criminally Insane. Go ABC writers!

          • LongtimeLurker

            I saw a clip of The Miscavige Institute.

            Soooo good.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I’ve always liked Robert Morse. Sad to hear that his daughter is a clam. Did you ever see “The Loved One”? The characters in that movie (Mr. Joyboy!) would fit right in with the clams – HA!

        • LongtimeLurker

          God, I accidentally read that as David Morse.

          I was so traumatised for about 20 seconds.

          I’m fine now, because I have no idea who the hell Robert Morse is.

          • MaxSpaceman

            One of the great parts and performances in Broadway & London musical theatre history. “How To Succeed In Business Without Really Trying” starring Robert Morse. The iconic piece from the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLEXE3oT3KA#t=0m59s

            • LongtimeLurker

              Oh heck, I know him!

              And his daughter’s in?

              Sads.

              thx for the info.

      • Sibs

        If it makes you feel any better, there wouldn’t be much steam for the show to go on if it was a Cinderella-like love story. Happy couples just don’t produce the same amount of drama.

      • Sid

        Those videos were terrible weren’t they. Amazing that she left a good job for that shit.

      • madame duran

        Didn’t Stafford return to the soap opera after her year long departure? *checks Google*

        • Nope, they use another actress for the character she played. The soap she was in is one my wife watches so I’m probably mire familiar with her acting style than the average

          I’ll tell you what– leaving a soap opera over a relatively trivial complaint was the worse career move of her life. She’s a decent actress who can do crazy well, but her job prospects at her age are few and far between

  • nottrue

    Going Clear books have mysteriously gone missing. Now i know why…

  • B4you

    I think Davitz Mazcavige should open up a Ideal Theme-park in Orlando. He has all the feature characters ready!

    Next!

  • jazzlover

    Hey, did my good deed for the day. Just educated a couple of Verizon FiOS salesman walking around the hood about the dangers of cults and SciFi. They seemed as interested as 20 year olds are gonna be interested in what I have to say, but they did sound like they’d check out “Going Clear”, because as one of them said “I’m into all that ‘out there’ kinda stuff”. They did roll there eyes when I mentioned Cruise, Travolta and Krusty, btw. LOL

    • B4you

      You should watch out for those Verizon guys. They are so full of numbers!

      • jazzlover

        When they rang my doorbell, I was all fired up thinking it was those damn Kingdom Hall dudes again. I had my rant prepared and everything 🙂

        • B4you

          Damn! Did they sell you anything?

          • jazzlover

            No. I shamefully admit that I’m already a customer 😉 It’s a huge relief when that happens.

            • B4you

              Ha ha! Here is the trick for those King kong guys; Ask them if the believe in Life before Death!

            • jazzlover

              That’s funny. I forgot to mention that the real hook for the young Verizon dudes was when I mentioned Nazinin Boniadi. They were clueless at first, but when I mentioned How I Met Your Mother and the one Barney gf with the English accent, the glint in their eyes was telling 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              Horny little tech-rats.

            • jazzlover

              Aren’t we all? 😉

            • B4you

              You a woman?

            • jazzlover

              I am man, hear me roar (said in a typical baritone while beating his chest) 😉

            • B4you

              So the Verizon guys where girls?

            • jazzlover

              No. I was not hitting on them. Sorry if that wasn’t clear 😉

            • B4you

              Are you sure?

              jk 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              Are you reading the same thread as me?

            • B4you

              Yes 🙂

            • jazzlover

              So now when a man talks to a man, we’re all gay? 😉

            • B4you

              Ha ha! It is kinda gay lol!!!

            • LongtimeLurker

              shhhhh – I’ve been trying to secretly sweep JL off his feet for a couple of days. You’ll wreck it.

            • B4you

              WHAT!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              That’s stupid it’s not like he was giving them oral. Do you flirt with every person that is the same sex as you?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Well yeah, but I try to hide it is all. 8 )

            • B4you

              Trying to tell me that People from Verizon read books?

              And who is Nazinin Boniadi?

            • jazzlover

              The Iranian actress who got set up with Tom Cruise between Nicole and Katie. She pissed Miscavige off and got ditched and sent to clean toilets with tootbrushes.

            • LongtimeLurker

              As JL says – she pissed off DM, allegedly in part because she kept asking him (politely) to repeat himself, English being her 2nd language and him being a yammery, mush-mouthed mook.

              We have no firm proof for this, but personally I’ve been repeating it as if I was there.

            • B4you

              I would have done the same! How dare she? Did she also talk Down to him? I would have loved to see that 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              Can you imagine?

              I’m sure she’d been briefed on who he (thinks he) is AND she’s British (now).

              So odds are she’d have been super polite “I’m so sorry David, could you repeat that, please?”

              He could be a normal human and laugh it off and then years later if they’re still friends they have a chuckle about it.

              But instead he loses his shit?

              And yeah, you got it. Since she’s a normal height human female, she’d have been contantly talking down to him by at least a few inches.

            • B4you

              No high heals? Damn 🙂 We should find a 3D printer and make some DM buttplugs and sell them on ebay

            • LongtimeLurker

              ewww

            • SP Wogsy

              Hingle has a 3D printer. He made the Bunker keychains for the Houston event.

            • B4you

              hmmm now that you say it. Let me take a look.

            • PantalonesCalienteYDelicioso

              And just what qualifies as “normal height for a human female”?

              In flats I can look DM straight in the eye, but with my high heels on and him not wearing his I’d be looking over the top of his head while he gets to look at my cleavage. Which is why I’ll be wearing a turtleneck and 6″ heels if I ever meet the guy.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Let’s pretend I typed ‘average’* rather than the pejorative ‘normal’.

              I wouldn’t want him looking at any part of me, clothed or otherwise.

              *5 ft 4 in, all races, measured 2010.

            • PantalonesCalienteYDelicioso

              I doubt I’ll ever meet the guy, but I’m the last person he’d want to lay a hand on if he values the arm and not being sued. 🙂

            • Todd Tomorrow

              How can you help but talk down to him?

            • OTD:OutTheDoor

              What’s true is what’s….

            • LongtimeLurker

              Never not funny.

            • aquaclara

              Oh, someone toss in the Vanity Fair story for B4you. And Tony covered it, too.
              It’s pretty great.

            • LongtimeLurker

              pssst look down.

              Is that the story?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I invited the Mormon’s in one time and cracked them a beer. They declined that and I said,”How ’bout a coffee?”

          • Kim O’Brien

            they came to my house last year. I was doing yard work in the front yard . I told them ” guys ..i am NOT the one ” ….they smiled in that ” up with people ” sort of way and asked me ” Don;t you have any questions about mormonism ?” I replied ” Um ..don’t YOU ? ” ..then i asked them if they read Under the Banner of Heaven .

            They must have put me on the same list that the Jehovah Witnesses have me on …cuz for some reason , they just skip my house now . Weird

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I don’t know why buy my neighborhood has never become racially mixed. It’s a bunch of white folks who still answer the door. But for some reason now we have these Mexican folks that speak no English at all. It’s just not just two, it’s more like 6. They try to get you to come to their church. They still knock every couple weeks all dressed to the nines.

            • Kim O’Brien

              that is funny …i live in a Mexican neighborhood and they send these white folk ..it’s not just two ..it’s more like 6 ..and they speak no Spanish …like at all . They try to get you to go to their church 🙂

            • Robert Eckert

              Your neighborhoods need to arrange a swap meet.

  • B4you

    I swear I just saw L. Ron Hubtard on the street. Nahh! could not! OMG have to go!!!

    • Mockingbird

      Do not tell the freezoners !! I am tired of the multiple/clone Hubbard theories !

      • B4you

        There are so many things Freezoners don’t understand!

        • Mockingbird

          Well I don’t want to pile on them, as in truth they are victims of Hubbard’s methods and need help. But I will admit they often have…exotic beliefs.

          • B4you

            I heard about this guy from Holland who believed that LRH in fact had many bodies and he himself was one of them. So he went in to AOSH and announced that LRH was back and that they should treat him with respect. They kicked him out!

            Apparently the receptionist wasn’t that dumb .

            • Mockingbird

              Ha ha ! Technically what he said fits some Scientology doctrine, IF you pick the exact right handful of references . I personally don’t believe it for a second.

    • LongtimeLurker

      How does he do that?

      • It’s a military cat, that’s how.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Ahhh. Makes sense.

          Brigadier General Mr Fluffypants.

    • worstcultever

      That’s really a magnificent gif -the studious face is SO GOOD

    • aquaclara

      Brilliant. Finally, a small critter who deserves his military title.

    • B4you

      That Cat is a Fast Flow and something. Check it out!

  • worstcultever

    Just drivin by and dipping in .. what a GREAT Chris Shelton video. His best yet.

    Guy with guitar – hey Scientologists, this is what Hubbard tech can do for your once-happening musical career. I really love how they even bothered to give the poor bastard a sound system.

    London org – now that’s a nice antidote after the recent depressing South American rah-rah pix. The real state of Scientology, I fervently hope.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    This week, I’ve seen several tweets like this. Are they just sending these out randomly to wogs now?

    https://twitter.com/bunnyhuunq/status/634500881501802497

    • LongtimeLurker

      Would sending them randomly to “wogs” have little positive effect?
      Would it possibly result in a minor wave of negative publicity online?
      Would it also possibly result in people Googling Scientology and finding out the truth?
      Might it further encourage more people to watch Going Clear?

      If you answered YES to 3 or more of these questions, you have discovered patented Scientology Footbullet Tech™®©.

      You can apply this powerful, 100% proven methodology to your own business. Ask me how!

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Uh-oh, will there be a cruise involved in obtaining this Footbullet Tech?

        • LongtimeLurker

          Ooooooh yeah, you’ll be on a boat, sport.

          There’s also this great party game called Regging.

          See you there!

    • worstcultever

      If I saw this in a dentist’s office my first thought would be “hmm, weirdass propaganda rag for something”

      (fortunately, knowing what i know, my second thought would be, “wtf, did I actually stumble into some WISE dental practice? k – bye now!”)

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I had a similar experience when I went to have gum surgery. My dentist had referred me to this woman and sure enough the day of my surgery I walked in and saw, The way to Happiness booklets but it had a man on the ad in the back. So,I went in to the room and claimed to be nervous and then I just asked her if she was a Scientologist. She said,” A what, I’m your Dr. not a scientist.” I explained myself and she said,”Oh, no I’ve never been religious of any sort.” What a nice Dr. she was she even asked me what I wanted for pain after I left!

        • LongtimeLurker

          That would have been a moment of terror, seeing WTH.

          How are you btw? Haven’t talked in a while.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Great, thanks for asking. Been busy at work. Glad you’re back, how have you been?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Good dude. Glad to be back, truly. Good to hear you’re well.

              Are things settling down at work, or will you be busy for a while?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Busy for awhile but I’ll be back.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Cool. Take it easy out there.

        • daisy

          The best Drs are the ones that prscribe

          • Todd Tomorrow

            She gave me the best, too!

    • B4you

      Is that Duke Nukem?

    • chukicita

      We got one at our office near Clearwater a few days ago as well. It contains an odd rant from John Sugg, who sounds like an old man yelling for the kids to get off his lawn, that attempts by its placement to paint the new Freedom as a bastion of journalistic integrity in a sea of uncertainty-generating and OT buzzkilling information.

      Strange that he never published anything about the book event he attended at the Clearwater Library when he heard truth from Miss Lovely herself.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Yeah, I tried to read this online and its a mess. I couldn’t get through it. It certainly doesn’t read as if it was a Church affiliated magazine. Seems to be put out by a bunch of crotchety, bitter old men who just wants to complain and rant about the government, psychiatry (surprise!) and what they perceive as an awful society in general (with special vitriol for the Tampa Bay Times). I can’t see this attracting anyone at all.

        • chukicita

          I did like the story about science saying some people don’t really need sleep, though. That was cute.

      • Baby

        chuk.. I am absolutely astounded that he didn’t publish anything about the book event either.. Shit..I thought ” SP Wog spitting at an OT ” was worth a mention.. sigh..

        • chukicita

          I know, RIGHT?!?!?! And we had plenty of photos if he needed one, too!

          • Baby

            YEP.. and Pizza..

  • B4you

    • SP Wogsy

      I’m not sure if it matters for the search results but it’s spelled Miscavige.

      • B4you

        ohh! nice 🙂

      • B4you

        Hmm nope.. that don’ t matter at all – it’s fine as it is 🙂

        • SP Wogsy

          That is a win for us. Spelled correctly or incorrectly Mismanage is a flunk : )

  • Dirty Frank, I see you.

    • SP Wogsy

      Hi (in my man voice)

  • MM

    So there’s this annual thing in Berlin called the “Long Night of the Religions” where in a coordinated effort the religious communities of Berlin open to the general public their churches, temples, mosques, synagogues, and community houses. They offer exhibitions, discussions, concerts, services, and meditations, to ‘lower the entry barrier’ for visitors, educate them about their respective belief systems and practices, establish a dialogue, and remove prejudices that might exist.

    Of course, no organization regarding themselves as any kind of ‘religious’ would want to miss such an oportunity to ‘get new people into the building’. So I would go grab a couple never-before-seen pics of an ‘Ideal Org’ with, wait for it… actual public inside! Just imagine the scoop!! What could possibly go wrong?!!!

    But here’s the thing: I looked at the line-up of all the groups participating in the event and I’m shocked, SHOCKED I tell you! You could never guess which one and only organization pretending to be a ‘religion’, having no more than 120 remaining customers in a city of 3.4 million, would be missing from this event:
    http://nachtderreligionen.de/programm2015/
    (unfortunately the website is only available in ze German language, but you’ll get the idea)

    • LongtimeLurker

      How many guesses can I have?

      • MM

        Just one, unfortunately. Wouldn’t want to make it too easy for the others 🙂

        • LongtimeLurker

          120 in a city of 3.4 million.

          That’s pretty lame.

          • Madison KinSmed

            We like #s like that!

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah!

              Lame for them, good for humanity.

          • MM

            Well that’s the official number according to the Federal Agency for the Protection of the Constitution (the German domestic intelligence agency, which among many other things is tasked with monitoring Scn).

            According to the Berlin Org themselves the number is ‘between 600 and 700’. Come to think of it, that would be pretty lame too, even if it were correct 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              I love that their lie is still pathetic!

              Germany, with your Federal Agency for the Protection of the Constitution assigned to monitor Scientology…

              …you ain’t so special…

              I mean the US has….

              Okay, but in Canada see, there’s….

              Look the UK is completely on top of….

              Listen, at least in Australia there’s….

              …grumblebgrumble….

            • MM

              Yeah those pesky Germans, bigots the lot of them I tell you! *snicker*

            • LongtimeLurker

              Hopefully senator Xenophon can make some headway here as well.

    • B4you

      “Long Night of the Religions” – I hope the sun never goes down again! Why don’t religion use a different timezone like North Korea?

      • MM

        Actually, there’s several of these “Long Night of [X]” kind of events taking place in Berlin around the year (X being museums, government buildings… you name it). The most well-kown of them, and probably the one attracting the most visitors every year, is the “Long Night of Science”, so there’s that.

    • madame duran

      Given the Cult of Scientology’s penchant for violent/vicious retaliation, “Long Night of the Knives” would likely be their preferred type of event.

  • LongtimeLurker

    SOCIAL MEDIA UPDATE ************ Per Wickstrom Edition

    What a….

    Hypocrite?
    Liar?
    Self-involved douche?
    I dunno, something…

    smh

    Refresh

    • EnthralledObserver

      Actually a good message… just don’t do it with HIM!

      • LongtimeLurker

        It’s a GREAT message. I’m doin’ it right now.

        But I’d bet money the only person he’s ever got sober is (allegedly) himself.

        See, he just won’t block me on Twitter.

        I’ve all but accused him of manslaughter and conspiracy.

        Kirsty won’t either.

        I suck at anti-religious bigotry.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Keep trying… you’ll get it eventually. 😉

          • LongtimeLurker

            I learnt my lesson after the brain surgery / six pack incident.

            • EnthralledObserver

              It’s fine… I hear bigotry is far easier than regular old humour.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Wait, what are we talking about now?

              God maybe I have had some kind of head trauma.

              But seriously, I’m actually lost.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Anti-religious bigotry… the tweeting of… resulting in banning.

              Keep up.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Sorry.

              God. derp.

              Yes, it is easier to slander someone from afar than write funny. Totally.

              edit – chopped off sentence.

    • daisy

      Hes harshing my buzz

      • LongtimeLurker

        He’s a freakin’ downer man.

        He should change his name to Per Buzzkillstrom.

        And also stop Narconon-ing.

  • SP Wogsy

    Update: 425 hearts/recommends on the Google/Wickstrom article

    Please click the heart on this article too : )
    http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/31/death-at-scientology-michigan-drug-rehab-sparks-widespread-investigation/

    (Refresh for Kitteh pic)

    • LongtimeLurker

      DAT MONKEH HAS A KITTEH HAS A MONKEH HAS A KITTEH HAS A MONKEH HAS A KITTEH!!!!!

  • Madison KinSmed

    Deleted bc SPWogsy beat me to it.

    • B4you

      I have been clicking on it all day, does that count?

      • Madison KinSmed

        Aha, you’re the reason it’s beating! For a split second, I thought I was having flashbacks.

    • SP Wogsy

      Awww you should have kept it. I only put the reminder for the 2013 article. Change it back. Lurkers love reminders. : )

      • Madison KinSmed

        Mine was right on top of yours. Srsly, we must have been posting at the exact same time but I had to deal with crazy autocorrections -story of my Bunker life 🙂

  • chukicita

    Heads up, Freewinds crew. Best get to postulatin’.

  • B4you

    The Truth is like an Onion…. You just put it away and hope it’s there next time you need it!

  • Kim O’Brien

    Goodnight …i am going to watch True Detective with Matthew McConaghey …and think about jesus the entire time of course 😉

    • LongtimeLurker

      Have you seen it before?

      • Kim O’Brien

        yes, yes, a thousand times yes .

        I’m sorry …did you say something ?

        • LongtimeLurker

          LOL!

          I was just gonna say if you haven’t it’s pretty good, hope you enjoy it. ; )

          Goodnight.

    • SP Wogsy

    • Did you see his brother Rooster?

  • Deeana

    Oh my xenu, this poor man is so-o-o-o lame!

  • Kay

    Just dropped in late…as usual.
    “Music video” of We Stand Tall: Hilariously bad in every way
    “Art”: That picture is disturbing on so many levels that I can’t catalogue all of them, except to agree that it’s not art.
    Chris Shelton: Vundebar (I don’t know German..that’s supposed to be “wonderful” lol)
    Kirstie Alley: Tweeting complete nonsense again, somebody please make it stop….Oh the Humanity !!! Oops mistook her for the Hindenburg..understandable mixup
    Letter to TBT per Karen Pouw: ridiculous, like any journalist is going to look at her videos just because she demands it.
    Per Wickstrom: STILL sounds like a character in a Jane Austen novel….truly
    End of summary

    • LongtimeLurker

      That’s about the size of it.

      • Kay

        🙂 Some of your comments down thread made me giggle when I read them. However I sorta miss your blonde Brady wig.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I got a microphone today, so I can sing along with Pomeranz.

          But yeah, the wig was pretty great. There’ll be more.

          Glad you giggled, that was my aim. Not to detract from Tony’s serious work, obviously.

          • Kay

            Hey we all need to laugh on this site or we would go nuts, truly. Love the reason behind the microphone..I was pondering the meaning behind that.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Sometimes my accessories are more obscure.

              And yeah, imagine if we were serious 24/7.

              Also, some of the Scieno-nonsense is just plain laughable.

            • Kay

              I like your accessories…..I don’t always get the connection but they amuse me nonetheless. Yes, some of the stuff really is laughable. I thought Karen Pouw’s letter was hilarious…I’m sure she thought it was Churchillian.

            • LongtimeLurker

              She’s a froot loop.

              You’re right though, she would have been loving the end result.

              Just like DM and Sherman must think those silly speeches are all home runs.

              Those upper-heiracrhy true believers are all so inward focussed, self-involved and self-impressed.

              Unpleasant.

              But anyway, if you only just got here, you should keep reading, I don’t want to distract you.

            • Kay

              I agree….well I scanned down through lots of it. (went back about six hours) but think I am turning in now as I am bushed. Have a good one ! Looking forward to your avi fashion accessory when I log on again…

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah, when I get here late, 6 hours is about my limit.

              I’ll dress up special for you tomorrow.

              You sleep tight, Special K.

            • Kay

              All right !! I’m looking forward to seeing that. Love the Special K 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              *wink*

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Late drive-by…where is the ¡Ka-pow! letter? I think Tiny Tot watched too much Batman Tv shows when he created this so-called Karen.

    • daisy

      Oh Dodo sigh

  • valshifter

    I noticed that Wikipedia used to have a definition for Psychbusts referring to scientology lingo and is no longer there the bastards made them take It down.

    • indie8million

      Isn’t that stupid? It never ceases to amaze me how stupid they are at PR. Wiki recognizes Scientology as a group that makes people stop drugging people and SCIENTOLOGY forces them to take it down.

      Here they are, trying to do the social media “thing” and they still don’t get it. ::facepalm:: Note to Dave: If someone mentions your cult’s name, it’s all good. Leave it up. That is all. (idiot)

      You can definitely see the sink hole Mike Rinder opened up when he blew for good. I’ll bet Mike would stop DM from doing 90% of the stupid stuff he’s pulling now.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Your Audit Buddy is back! And he wishes he could put an LRH office in his “efficency”. SMH

    https://twitter.com/YourAuditBuddy/status/634582976622403584

    • randomity

      I have a little LRH office in the glove compartment of my car.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        When the clam’s houses get foreclosed upon and they end up living in their cars they oughta give you a call…

        Or maybe you should give Stephen King a call about adapting your story into a sequel to Christine? 🙂

    • Newiga

      LMAO!! Don’t we all! I have an LRH office in my biowaste bin. 😀

  • SP Wogsy
  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X *** Friday, 21 August 2015.

    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,

    Fri 21st: SLC leads OC & LV

    Salt Lake City needs our help to sendcomplaints to CL, check RedXTips tab in the google spread sheet for how to complain, see some complaint examples at wwp : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2534000

    Flag the lies, whack a few bait & switch ads : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    F5… Justice League by Justice Bleeds enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX, and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15718590981/in/set-72157642802079293

  • Jimmy3

    Guess a number

    • Mockingbird

      1.

    • Jack99

      323263287637

    • Ella Raitch

      47

    • Newiga

      3?

    • LongtimeLurker

      no.

    • Sookie Sookie

      36C

    • Rasha

      Chi

      …Phi

      • Rasha

        Definitely Phi.

    • 2.

  • KittyKatSpanker
    • indie8million

      I’ve always loved this painting. Saw it on a friend’s wall. Jim Warren?

  • indie8million

    Well, too bad we’re picking on David Pomeranz (no relation to Jeff Pomererantz who does all of the shouting on the event videos – “Wellllllllllllcommmmmmmmmme to the 14th annual celebraaaaaaaaaaation of the IN-ter-NATIONAL Association of Sciiiiiiii-en-tologiiiiiiiiiiiiists!!!!!”).

    David is a good soul and doesn’t know all this stuff is going on. BTW, I think he wrote “We Stand Tall.” In all fairness, he’s a very talented songwriter and I would get him out, if I could.

    He’s not just well known in the Scientology community but is a very well-respected songwriter world wide. That’s the thing about songwriters. Nobody knows who they are.

    “Composer

    Pomeranz’s songs include “Tryin’ to Get the Feeling Again” and “The Old Songs”, both recorded by Barry Manilow, and a cover of “It’s In Every One Of Us”, from the Dave Clark musical Time which was also featured in the film Big and later at the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul, Korea. His work has been performed by artists as diverse as Bette Midler, Phoebe Snow, Freddie Mercury, Richie Sambora, Missy Elliott, The Carpenters, Harry Belafonte, Andrea Marcovicci, Donna Summer, Lillias White, The Hollies and Cliff Richard, and his various songwriting projects have amassed a total of twenty-two platinum and eighteen gold albums.

    Pomeranz has composed for feature films, television (earning a 1981 Emmy Award nomination for Outstanding Achievement in Music and Lyrics for the CBS television movie Homeward Bound[2]), and the stage, including the hit West End musical Time; Little Tramp, based on the life and career of Charles Chaplin, staged for the 1995 Eugene O’Neill Theater Festival in Waterford, Connecticut and presented in a 1996 concert version in St. Petersburg, Russia; and a musical adaptation of A Tale of Two Cities, produced by Bill Kenwright for the Theatre Royal, Windsor (1998) and the Alexandria Theatre in Birmingham (1999). With Kathie Lee Gifford he has written two projects, Under The Bridge, which premiered off-Broadway in January 2005, and Saving Aimee, based on the life of evangelist Aimee Semple McPherson, which debuted at the White Plains Performing Arts Center in October 2005 and was staged at the Signature Theatre in Arlington, Virginia in April–May 2007. In 2012, Saving Aimee was renamed to Scandalous and opened on November 15, 2012 in the Neil Simon Theatre on Broadway in New York City.[3] ”

    So the man ain’t no slouch. 😉

    Tony, I know that you want to know the whole story so here’s David’s full bio, for the record, pardon the pun.
    http://www.davidpomeranz.com/career/biography

    And don’t say anything bad about him in the Philippines either. You’ll have a lot of Filipinos kicking you in the shin. 😀 FYI.

    • Tory Christman

      I used to Love To hear David sing…what a shame! He used to be his own guy…not the corporate
      shill you hear, spouting “We Stand Tall”. I Hate when they “gut” people…..I remember the 1st one we
      all noticed: HEBER. GONE. (And this was back when I was “in”…..in the 90’s!).

      I *am* going to say something about this: DAVID POMERANZ………..STOP SHILLING FOR THE BS
      “CHURCH” that will pitch YOU under the bus, any day, any time! Please take back your own life,
      and career. If any friends of David’s see this, plz pass it on to him.
      Tory (Bezazian-used to be) Christman now 🙂 (Aka: Magoo!) Your local, friendly SP! 🙂

      • indie8million

        Yeah Tory. I know what you mean. I was just thinking about the concept of friendship today. You and I both were such avid friends of Scientology. We put Scientology ahead of our own purposes to protect and promote it.

        Then, as you say, they just throw people like us under the bus. Not just after you’re out, either. While people are in, they get crappy, unfair ethics cycles, regged til they can’t breathe or pay for food or rent, etc. Insane in the membrane.

        Yes, he is shilling for them. Man, is he gonna be mad when he finds out what he’s really supporting. Or maybe the word is, “disgusted”.

        See ya Tory.

        • Tory Christman

          Soooooooo so true what an utter *shock* it is when you FINALLY find out what
          you’ve been actively supporting for soooooooooooooooooooo many years!
          I hope he, and many, many others WTFU soon and Get out, Stand UP and Tell
          their stories. Best to you, indie8million! 🙂

          • indie8million

            Thanks! To you too, Tory.

  • phoebequeen

    Oh, Lordy, it’s Rev. Tim Tom from The Middle! Run Sue Heck, Run!

  • Bob Crouch

    The good thing is that scientology comedy writes itself. It’s almost too easy. Miscavige singing “We stand tall!” All 4’13” of him. Inspiring!

  • Bob Crouch

    Quote from the goofy song: “The price of freedom we all must pay–from now on.” At least it can’t be said that the Taiwanese were not duly warned! Pony up, folks.