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‘Going Clear’: Mike Rinder helps us understand a Scientology document that will creep you out

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We have another screenshot from Alex Gibney’s new documentary as we count down the days until Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief airs on HBO Sunday at 8 pm. This time, we’re featuring former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder.

We’ve written extensively about Rinder in the past. We continue to get a steady stream of emails and comments about a series of video interviews we did with him in 2012 at his home in Florida. That piece contains a substantial amount about Rinder’s background and early years in Scientology, including his time on the yacht Apollo with Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

If you want to catch up on Rinder’s role in Scientology, please read that piece. Today, however, we have something really amazing that we have been waiting a considerable time to spring on you. It’s a document we obtained some time ago that is as strange as it is rare — it’s a memo written by Scientology leader David Miscavige himself.

Our longtime readers know that we have heard plenty of Miscavige’s words during his interminably long stage extravaganzas at Scientology annual events. But written down communications? It’s not common to see a document written out by Miscavige himself. We often suspect that the letters written to HBO or Vanity Fair or other publications that go out under the name “Karin Pouw” have actually been drafted or heavily edited by Miscavige. But an internal letter that reveals how Miscavige thinks? This is a rare treat.

The letter was written in 2007, and it indicates that it was copied to Mike Rinder. We showed the document to Rinder recently, and he confirmed its authenticity. It was a letter written by Miscavige and copied to him, he says.

It’s a really strange document, filled with allusions and references to past events, and so we’re going to give it to you a few lines at a time, and we hope it gives you some idea of what it’s like to work for Scientology’s head honcho.

May 31, 2007

BK
cc: MR

RE: REPORT OF 30 MAY

Dear Bob,

Thank you very much for your report.

Rinder explains that a Sea Org executive named Bob Keenan (“BK”) had sent Miscavige a daily report on May 30, and in this message, Miscavige is responding. He’s “cc’d” to Mike Rinder (“MR”), who was in London at the time, having come out of The Hole in Hemet to help handle BBC reporter John Sweeney. Sweeney had completed the first of two documentaries about the organization, “Scientology and Me,” which had aired on May 14. Rinder had been helping to surveil Sweeney while he was filming, and the church had also filed an official complaint about the documentary with Ofcom, the Office of Communications, a sort of government ombudsman for UK media. Scientology had also produced its own response video, which focused on the way Sweeney had exploded at Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis during filming.

Glad to hear the Ofcom complaint is complete and I look forward to seeing it after it is fully reviewed.

I’ll try to make it by to see that DVD as well.

Here, Miscavige reveals to Keenan that he hasn’t seen the response video yet himself, but he’s hoping for a good result from Ofcom after the church complained about Sweeney’s behavior.

What I’ve been trying to do is get the rest of the ACCs done (so I’m done all materials on the entire Guide Chart — a single-hand, meaning, the likes of that vampire that is occupying England who never was involved in a single ounce of it — sort of a good thing because who would ever want that on their whole track!). I’m continuing to get together the Maiden Voyage OT Summit events which will be held at Flag and I am doing all of the events.

Miscavige now explains what he’s been up to, which is to finish work on Scientology’s big new reveal that year, the “Basics,” of which the Advanced Clinical Courses (ACCs) was a part. Scientology relies on the written works of L. Ron Hubbard, who died in 1986, and Miscavige can’t technically come out with new material on his own. But several years earlier, he had a brainstorm. He had all of Hubbard’s early works re-edited and redesigned, claiming that there had been “transcription errors” which made the books hard to read. Removing thousands of semicolons, for example, was one of Miscavige’s bragging points. Rinder has told us previously that he was enlisted in this effort, working around the clock to help edit what would be put into the $3,000 package of books and lectures that every Scientologist was expected to purchase in multiple quantities. But here, Miscavige is complaining that ultimately, he had to do everything himself to get things done, and he’s denying that Rinder, “that vampire,” had ever been involved. And a good thing, he adds, because Rinder would have just messed things up, resulting in Scientologists then relying on faulty materials that could affect them through eternity (their “whole track”). Here’s our first sense that Miscavige is writing this letter and copying it to Rinder as a way to let him know that Miscavige considers him a traitor, and lets him know it not by addressing him directly, but in a very passive-aggressive way.

New initiatives would normally be revealed first to the wealthy donors who attend the summer “Maiden Voyage” celebration on Scientology’s private cruise ship the Freewinds, but because the Basics was such a huge collection of materials that had taken a couple of years to produce, Miscavige held Maiden Voyage that year, 2007, at Ruth Eckerd Hall in Clearwater, Florida — the town known as “Flag” to Scientology.

As for your comm on what happened, I don’t doubt for a second you wouldn’t have engaged in these things.

Rinder says he can’t remember what this response to Bob Keenan might have referred to.

When the Ofcom complaint is completed, how long do you think it will take for you to get MR on a plane to the furthest outreach of Western Australia? I’m not that unkind. I’m willing to give him 10 quid. He thinks I’ve been joking the whole time. What he doesn’t know (and I want you to know) is that I know exactly what he’s been up to for the last month and a half with his fellow workers in the ethics zone. You sent a message a few weeks ago on a place. It seemed about right. If he can’t earn a living on whatever job he gets, he can always sell his body. I could care less. You see, I really do know what he’s been up to. And, when you find out, you’re going to know what a 1.1 is to the extreme.

Here Miscavige continues to complain that Rinder has been betraying him — what Miscavige accused all of the executives he had imprisoned in The Hole — and explains to Keenan that Rinder only thinks he’s joking about sending him to some far-flung location like Western Australia. This is a reference to a strange incident that gets good play in Gibney’s film, the “Bohemian Rhapsody” game of musical chairs at The Hole, which had executives fighting for chairs so they could remain in the prison and not be shipped off to remote Scientology locations. In the film, Rinder explains that once the game was over, Miscavige didn’t send anyone anywhere — it was apparently just a psychological game intended to break down the inhabitants of The Hole like everything else. But here, Miscavige is saying he’s going to show Rinder that he wasn’t joking, and soon, after the Ofcom complaint is resolved, Rinder will be on a plane to some remote location and dumped to fend for himself. Once he’s there, Miscavige says Rinder can “sell his body,” if he needs to, and Rinder’s “covert hostility” (1.1 on the Scientology Tone Scale) will be revealed. He also seems to indicate that Keenan had already suggested some desolate place where Rinder might be dumped.

In the last few weeks, it has not been nice. Do you know that pimple you saw? Well, I popped it. We’re talking two guys buying X-rated movies and masturbating simultaneously in the same room with one being the husband and one being the wife, going through Dean and Deluca (a gourmet mail order catalog) catalogs as husband and wife and the bald-headed guy buying the other one cheese as a favor.

Rinder tells us that the “pimple” Miscavige is referring to here is The Hole, and specifically, two inhabitants of it who were constantly coming in for abuse, Sea Org executives Marc Yager and Guillaume Lesevre. Multiple people who were prisoners in the Hole tell us that Miscavige, for some reason, took particular delight in accusing Yager and Lesevre of being a homosexual couple (which wasn’t true, our witnesses say). Miscavige would refer to the balding Yager as “Cue Ball,” and the aging Frenchman Lesevre as “Cheese-Eater.” Miscavige was obsessed with outing Yager and Lesevre as gay, we’re told, and here he imagines them inhabiting male and female roles in their “relationship.”

We’re talking about the guy who was on the finance lines and refused to get you the finance issues, waiting for R to come back so he can be permanently appointed for the rest of the universe as the International Finance Dictator.

Here Miscavige is referring to another Sea Org executive in The Hole, Wendell Reynolds, who held the position of International Finance Director. Reynolds told Amy Scobee that he wasn’t interested in escaping from The Hole because no matter how bad it got, he had to stick it out until L. Ron Hubbard returned. Miscavige appears to know this, and belittles Reynolds for waiting for Ron (“R”) to show up and make Reynolds International Finance Dictator.

We’re talking about me finding out exactly what Mike was doing in 1982. We’re talking about Marc’s op. We’re talking about me knowing exactly what MR has been doing on his sympathizing for all the SPs who got nothing done.

More Miscavige griping about what a traitor Rinder and Yager are, and how Rinder’s problem is that he has sympathy for the other executives in The Hole, who are “SPs,” suppressive persons — Scientology jargon for evil people who must be expelled from the organization.

Right now you are living with a snake. The thing between me and you, buddy, is you don’t need to tell me all this other stuff. I know you know. And you know I know. And what he doesn’t know is we both know.

The really remarkable thing about Miscavige’s conspiratorial tone here is that he’s copied this to Rinder just to reinforce that he’s no longer in the “we both know” club.

FEEDBACK

This is excellent.

Miscavige is apparently happy with some feedback Keenan gave on the response video.

SUMMARY

Looking forward to getting the final complaint.

Looking forward to working together and starting the next frontier. Man, wait until you see what I’ve got coming. And it’s going to keep coming and coming and coming and coming and coming. Do we really want this decadent crap around us who wanted to do everything to make sure it never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever would come? (And who, despite it all, couldn’t accomplish that?)

This is classic Miscavige. He’s about to reveal a $3,000 package of materials he wants every Scientologist to buy, but he’s already thinking of other initiatives that he’s going to throw at the membership. (And he did, everything from Super Power to GAT II to the constant pressure of the Ideal Org program.) But as always, he’s sure that his own lieutenants are incompetent and want to hold him back, or worse, are secretly working to sabotage him.

If you think I’m giving you free reign, well, interpret it as you wish…. Cheers mate.

Much love

In signing off with the usual Sea Org salutation, “much love,” Miscavige gives Keenan “free reign” to handle Rinder how he sees fit. Rinder tells us the message was very clear, and he didn’t wait around to find out what Miscavige and Keenan would cook up for him. A few days after he received this letter, he tells us, he made his escape, walking away from his post in London and wandering until he reached a train station. He’s never been tempted to go back.

 
UPDATE: Jefferson Hawkins put a comment on this story that we wanted everyone to see. So we’re adding it here…

If Scientologists had any clue what David Miscavige is really like, they would run for the nearest exit. This letter is just one small example of the crap he spews out constantly. We had to carefully preserve every one of his memos in large binders, and study them, “word clear” them, and so forth. Having to try to make sense of his rambling, illiterate, contradictory instructions was torture in itself. And it all had the same tone: I have to do everything, I am the only one doing anything, I am surrounded by Suppressives who are trying to sabotage everything I do. And the constant stream of sick sexual fantasies about what he imagined other people were doing.

Miscavige hates and despises everyone. He is paranoid to the extreme. Everyone is out to get him. That’s why he removed every major executive and put them in the Hole. They were all SPs. If he seems to favor someone, it is only so he has an audience to spew his venom to. But eventually he turns on anyone, and there is no more dangerous position than to be Miscavige’s temporary “friend” and confidante, as Keenan is in this example. He will inevitably turn on you.

I know people who spent years trying to get on Miscavige’s “good side,” only to realize that he doesn’t have one.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Actual caption: “Please welcome to post our new staff member at Seattle Day Org, Class V Graduate Auditor Kenny Gagon!!! Kenny, who is currently on New OT VII, is on post now as an HGC Auditor in the Seattle Day HGC and is available to audit you, your family and/or your selectees all the way to Clear. Kenny has had a long and successful career as an Auditor to this point and with Golden Age of Tech II can take you up the Bridge faster and smoother than ever.”

 
SciSeattle2

 
Youth for Human Rights doing…something…in Querétaro, Mexico.

 
SciQueretaro

 
Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 23, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Mrs. V.

    God that Miscavige is an awful person. I’ll be so happy when he’s in prison.

    • Cupcakes for Breakfast

      Yes- prison. That’s my dearest hope because it is his biggest fear. And because he is so, so deserving!

  • That letter is simply weapons-grade passive/aggression. What a sad, petty little man Mindscavenge is.

  • Cupcakes for Breakfast

    I have been trying and failing to find one word that perfectly sums up DM. Vile. Poisonous. Petty. Ignorant. Mean. Psycho. Revolting. Creepy. Deranged. Pathetic. Sick. Cruel. The list goes on and on, there is no ONE word that can encompass what he is. (Also- egotistical. In some sick way, he probably gets off on everyone talking/thinking about him.)
    I am a person that likes to find the good in people- but both he and Hubbard- the more I learn, the more I feel like I am mucking about in a poisonous stew of filth. I’ve said it several times today, but it makes me feel gross and dirty.
    I have so much respect for those who have spoken up, who have tirelessly reported, who have been that voice in the wilderness for years and years. Shine on, Warriors. You are making a difference every day!

    • MaxSpaceman

      Shine on, Warriors!
      You’re making a difference.
      Cupcakes for Breakfast.

      • Lucille Austero

        This is your brain. This is your brain on haiku.

        • MaxSpaceman

          This is your brain, Max.
          This is your brain on haiku.
          No haikus for you!

          • Lucille Austero

            You are too good 🙂

        • dungeon master

          This! This is your brain!
          This is your brain on Haiku.
          Wash. Stir. Rinse. Repeat!

          Sorry! Can’t help myself!
          I think in sci acronyms
          And random Haiku!

      • Cupcakes for Breakfast

        🙂
        That last line could also be tweaked to:
        Bad-ass Bunkerites
        Or
        Bad-ass Ortega
        Or
        Going Clear is here
        This is fun!

  • Toni m

    dm is right to be suspicious, he can’t have sincere loyalty from others. The one he has is the one he buys with fear, the people around him learn the fear of losing eternity, losing family, fear of what to do if they are out of the only place they have known most of they life, fear of saying what they know. The other loyalty dm has is the one he buys with our tax payers money. But fear and money may not be enough anymore for people to stay in or keep helping him. Except the tc, cardorones and others like them.
    Real loyalty is what we see here. “We have been waiting a considerable time to spring on you. It’s a
    document we obtained some time ago that is as strange as it is rare” Mr Ortega is loyal with the people that came to him with information and patiently he waits until is the right time for them. And the loyalty from them to him shows in the information they provide.
    dm you are dumb and doom.
    Sorry for my grammar.

    • Juicer77

      Well said, Toni.

  • Mockingbird

    Regarding the fact that DM does not use grammar well – I can attest to the fact that after my extensive indoctrination in the cult and -now beginning to write extensively on it -I have realized Scientology indoctrination and methodology crushes the capacity to construct original thoughts and especially to communicate them well with simple constructions such as sentences and paragraphs at even a high school level of writing .

    It has been a challenge to switch from extreme emphasis on instant verbatim recall to pass spot checks and “duplicating” Hubbard’s doctrine without variation( or critical or independent thought or individuality) to be a respected and admired cult member to NOW have to actually THINK and analyze information THEN write it up in a form that is comprehensible to others !

    And follows the structure of sentences and paragraphs with a flow – it is a LOT to ask of a Scientologist . And like DM I have very little pre cult education so in that regard we are birds of a feather .

    I at least have a high school level education to draw upon – I feel truly sorry for the poor kids raised in Scientology who are often frankly very poorly educated and lost when it comes to writing or reading well . The Danny Masterson’s of the world are likely to remain ignorant .

    • Juicer77

      Plus you have the wider experience you’ve absorbed since leaving, and the willingness to look around and learn. Getting out of the bubble is a worthwhile education unto itself.

      • richelieu jr

        And proof of a resilliant intellect and sense of self.

        • mockingbird

          Thank you but the juries out on that one…

    • Billy Bob

      Sometimes I ‘talk like that’ for humorous effect. Sometimes I ‘talk like that’ because I don’t know what I think. My communication sins are many.
      IMO a person needs to have enough respect for his own sanity and the sanity of others to learn to talk and write clearly, in spite of the limitations of language.
      Tho DM does express his own self mostly.

  • Mymy88

    OMG! F me! Sorry for the horrible terrible bad language but I just gotta me when the news is this good!

    Please note, this article appears in today’s ‘The Latino Post’. And yesssss! There is a mention of Tony and this blog! Just when you began to think dreams no longer come true:

    http://www.latinopost.com/articles/15995/20150323/penelope-cruz-catholic-tom-cruise-ex-scientology-member-spills-details.htm

    • NOLAGirl

      “In 20014, PEOPLE reported that Cruz took Scientology church courses and she found them beneficial, but she remained a non-member of the L. Ron Hubbard-founded organization throughout her relationship with Cruise.”

      Oooo some whole track gossip. 🙂 Funny typo.

      • Mymy88

        C’mon! Let’s just keep fanning them flames, hotter and hotter lol.

      • Mymy88

        NOLAGirl – I just saw the ‘whole track’ in Slappy’s memo, so at least now I get your reference, a little lol. I need to figure out what ‘whole track’ is supposed to mean, or maybe it is a $cien term but it doesn’t matter right now because my two selfish-think-the-whole-world, thinks-they-own-the-whole-world, thinks-they-rule-the-whole-world-and-everything-and-everyone-in-it, kitties are screaming, and I do mean screaming, their demands for their Sunday morning walks! Arg! They really hate the Underground Bunker, with a passion but too bad lol. Be back in a while.

        • NOLAGirl

          Actually hon, my “whole track” comment was just a funny on the writer of the article and the ‘20014’ typo….in Scilon language, meaning gossip from the future (or past, but that’s a whole other word salad) 😀

          • Mymy88

            lol, I didn’t notice the typo until you pointed it out.. so true lol

        • richelieu jr

          WT refers to a ridiculous Scilon belief that you can ue their lie-detector to test stories you make up to see what crimes u committed along the Whole Track of all your lives (FF everyone was Jesus or Napoleon or both- see? Yiu’re welcome! That will be 300,000 $, cash or charge?

        • Mark Foster

          whole track: the moment to moment record of a person’s existence in this universe in picture and impression form.

          This supposedly covers TRILLIONS of years and countless life-times…and, per Richelieu´s comment below, the ¨e-meter¨ is used to ¨date and locate¨ incidents on ¨the whole track¨ .
          There. Now take this pipe and inhale deeeeeeeeeply….

          • Sherbet

            I don’t know why — excessive silliness here — but I just typed “the whole track” into an anagram generator and got this: A Tech Trek Howl

            How perfect is that!

          • Mymy88

            Thank you for that definition. $cien’s term ‘whole track’ reminds me of a term you will hear sometimes in ‘new age’ philosophies, which is ‘Akashic Records’, and also in most Christian denominations there is the biblical reference to ‘The Book of Life’. All three of these terms basically have the same meaning, as far as I’m concerned.

            And for the heck of it, here’s a brief description of the Akashic Reocords, that I randomly just now Googled (link at bottom):

            The Akashic Records or “The Book of Life” can be equated to the
            universe’s super computer system. It is this system that acts as the
            central storehouse of all information for every individual who has ever
            lived upon the earth. More than just a reservoir of events, the Akashic
            Records contain every deed, word, feeling, thought, and intent that has
            ever occurred at any time in the history of the world. Much more than
            simply a memory storehouse, however, these Akashic Records are
            interactive in that they have a tremendous influence upon our everyday
            lives, our relationships, our feelings and belief systems, and the
            potential realities we draw toward us.

            http://www.whalecommunicators.com/akashicrecords.html

  • Sherbet

    I think I’ve managed to convince Mr. Sherb to watch the HBO doc with me on Sunday, so if there’s live blogging, I won’t be able to participate. Boo hoo to that. But it will be worth it, just to pin him down to share my obsession for a measly two hours.

    • Juicer77

      It will be interesting to hear his take on it! I suspect Mr. J will watch as well. He rolls his eyes at me but keeps asking questions 🙂

      • Sherbet

        I told him I’ve watched thousands of hours of car, WWII, alien, and occult documentaries with him, that he owes me this.

        • Mrs. V.

          I’ve got the music documentaries as my ammo!

        • NOLAGirl

          I’ve given my hubby (and son) a choice. In here watching with me, quietly. Or in the front of the house watching….whatever. There will be time for him to see it and ask questions (thank you DVR) but selfishly, Sunday night is for me to savor the fruits of our wait. 🙂

          • Sherbet

            Amen.

          • Lucille Austero

            I agree. I am planning on watching with Mr. Austero, but he has agreed to remain silent and attentive the whole time. Mr. A told me yesterday re: $cibots, “I believe you but I’m not concerned about it.” This is a teensy step in the right direction!

            • Sherbet

              That IS my husband. He says the same thing. I know they’re crazy, but I don’t really care. If he watches this doc, he may care finally.

            • NOLAGirl

              Awww Sherb. Even if he doesn’t care more after seeing it, at least it will help him understand more why you do. 🙂

            • Sherbet

              Nicely put, NOLA. He has a soft heart, but he’s of the mind that a person has to be a bit loopy to get into scientology in the first place. This will show him.

            • NOLAGirl

              That is where our hubs are alike Sherb. Mine thinks the same thing and I’ve tried to tell him: “In your early days, it could have easily been you.”

              Now in his older age with more wisdom, of course he says..”Not me”…but I always rebut “Yes, you too” 🙂

            • Sherbet

              That’s right. He and I came to maturity in the idealistic 60s and 70s, and it could have been us wanting to save the planet.

            • BabySmurfette

              I got the same from Mr. Smurf – “there’s only 50,000 of them in the world? why do we care?” I told him because they’re rich as f*ck and criminally insane!

            • NOLAGirl

              I’ve manged to show my hubs enough that he recognizes them as a mafia-type organization (his words) and he understands why I fight, but under his hard outer shell is a big ole softy heart so I think this will only reinforce to him why I do what I do.

              I did get him to start reading Blown For Good, but because work has been hectic he hasn’t gotten very far into it. Suggest that book to Mr. A. Lucille, I think that is one of the best starter books, and Marks story is so page-turning, it’s hard to put down once you’re a few chapters into it.

            • Zana

              That was my first book. Total page-turner. I was shocked. Halfway into the book I realized that I could never turn back. Never go back to Co$. I had read that far… with that I determined to read everything else. I was done.

            • NOLAGirl

              I’ll bet Marc would be happy to know that. 🙂

        • Lucille Austero

          Sherb, I think you may have swiped my husband (!)

          • Sherbet

            Uh-oh. They are legion!

        • Juicer77

          LOL!

        • MrsLurksALot

          Add any thing with a score, and that’s my man. He owes me, LOL.

    • Mrs. V.

      Mr. V. is making a huge sacrifice to watch it with me, but I think he really wants to understand my obsession. The Walking Dead season finale is on that night. What did we do without DVR?

      • Sherbet

        Ha! It looks like you’ll have zombies on both channels.

        • Mrs. V.

          Yes! Zombies on both channels. Hilarious.

      • Lucille Austero

        And it’s a 90 minute TWD. But I will watch it Monday.

        • Mrs. V.

          Monday for sure.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Settle on the couch with some nachos and a bowl of home-made spinach-artichoke dip. Works for me.

      • Sherbet

        That will do it.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Won’t it be great after all the spouses and family and friends see this – and start asking you questions – in awe? Yay! Well, at least they will understand a lot better, but I hope they start asking, and then you can sit back and watch as they dive down their very first rabbit hole. 🙂

      • Sherbet

        Since Mr. Sherb is retired, he can chat in the Bunker all day long if he’s so inclined. Give him a warm welcome, OK?

        • NOLAGirl

          We will make sure we’re stocked with his favorite beverages. 🙂

    • Dibythesea

      I have mistakenly invited 3 friends over for champagne, cake, popcorn, and of course a lovely dinner to watch the docu, but the more I think about it the more I realize I won’t be able to read and post comments on the blog while it airs!!
      I will also have to deal with people wanting to socialize during the movie. Thank god for DVR’s!
      We are all never-ins and I have only been able to get one of my guests to actually be interested in the subject. She even reads Tony’s blog!
      I am practically giddy at the thought of DM watching in his private office Sunday night. I think his heart may explode from the intense stress!
      Tick Tock Angry Elf!!!!

      • Sherbet

        I get it. We’ll be with some family members for lunch and into the afternoon, but you can bet they’re getting the bum’s rush out of my house before 8 p.m. They’d be too distracting.

      • BabySmurfette

        Exactly why I’m so excited to be out of town able to watch alone in a hotel room – no distractions and I’ll be obsessively watching both the doc and the bunker!

    • MrsLurksALot

      Same for me. Mr.LaL has committed to watching, so I know I’ll be answering questions for him. I’ve been bending his ear about forever now, so he probably thinks this will shut me up…..just wait until he finally understands, when so many others finally understand the totality of evil the CoS represents!

      • Sherbet

        There’s room in the Bunker for when Mr. Lurks joins.

  • Ben Franklin

    Apparently one of DM’s favorite movies is “Full Metal Jacket”. If you watch the drill sergeant in “Full Metal Jacket” it won’t take long before you realize that DM may have borrowed some of his brutal tactics towards his staff from the sergeant.

    • MaxSpaceman

      along with the certainty that he was already doing some of those tactics naturally, and received ‘verification’ from the movie that he be doing things right.

      • Mark Foster

        Yes sir, Max Spaceman, we geniuses look at movies to verify the absolute, ruthless brilliance of our universe-saving moves; yes, my beloved galactic homeboy? Preferably while swilling scotch ?

        • MaxSpaceman

          right 🙂

    • Robert Eckert

      But didn’t he watch the part showing how the sarge ended up?

      • Rasha

        I was thinking the same thing…….

      • Ben Franklin

        I think what he probably enjoyed are the insults and the treatment of subordinates. Some f the sadistic treatment DM comes up with makes me wonder whether he is the real life Drill Sergeant.

    • richelieu jr

      Yes, DM took the venom and sadism, but none of the wit…
      Reminds me of a 6 year-old i knew in the 80s who LOVED Batman– not because he fought crime but because he could hit people and everyone did what he said…

      CoB- he know where its at but damned if he has the slightest idea what it is.

    • NOLAGirl

      R. Lee Ermey would whoop DM’s ass.

      I know, not relevant, just a lovely thought I had. 🙂

      • Ben Franklin

        Would love to see R. Lee Ermey give a talking to DM.

  • dagobarbz

    Isn’t that cute? In 2007, DM thought that his little train was going to keep chugging along on the same track forever. Then came 2008, and his world was rocked by Project Chanology. And the li’lest Big Bean never saw it coming!

  • i-Betty

    Karen says it was Spanky Taylor’s car tyre that was slashed, not Tom DeVochts. (F5)

    • Juicer77

      Thank you for the correction.

    • Zana

      When did this happen? Within the last few days? Or long before?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    RIP, Jim Berry, “Berry’s World” cartoonist. Hubbard not a fan. Joking and Degrading becomes an “issue”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2015/03/23/rip-jim-berry-for-40-years-berrys-world-cartoonist-dispensed-relatable-laughs/

    Hubbard not a fan. Joking and Degrading becomes an “issue”. Can’t make this sh*t up.
    http://www.gerryarmstrong.org/50grand/cult/operation-funny-bone.html

    http://i.imgur.com/V9JNq01.gif?2

    • Zana

      Wow. I just read the whole link. Amazing insight into LRH going mad. Wow. !! Thank you. And I used to think that he had the answer to everything. I was shocked when I discovered that Auditing and the OT stuff was sending people off the deep end.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Here’s a list of Guardian’s Office Operations, some of them, with a link to each. I am not kidding when I say how much they resemble mafia like operations.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guardian%27s_Office_operations

        • Zana

          OMG! It’s always worse than you think.

        • Zana

          Wow. Amazing. They are sinking like a bag of rocks now.

  • nottrue
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      The #1 LIE: “Church” of Scientology

      http://i.imgur.com/e2XnSZT.jpg

      • Sherbet

        I wonder what Tommy Davis could have said about bigotry and his “religion” if John Sweeney had been wearing that shirt.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I’m trying to visualize that, Sherb. I don’t hear anything but the sound of the steam clouds gushing out of Tommy’s ears.

          • Sherbet

            Davis: You got it buddy, right here, right now.

            T-shirt: lrh said scientology isn’t a religion.

            Davis: Oh. Never mind.

            • Observer

              “Did you see him say that? Then how do you know he did?!!!”

            • Sherbet

              Literally LOL, Obs.

          • Sherbet

            The Mouse that Roared. And DM should have paid attention and been nicer to her.

      • richelieu jr

        Gotta love the poor English on the shirt as well…

        They say Hubbard could crank out thousands of sentences per day…. I wonder if any of them were ever correct (grammatically, that is. We already know that his life began in the maternity ward. He got what was arguably the only undeserved smack of his life, then:

        “Waaaaaa!” he lied.

      • mockingbird

        I need that shirt !!!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Vistaprint

      • Suppressive Tomato

        Just so awesome. There’s a point in one of the PDC lectures where he starts railing about how if Scientology ever got fixated on big buildings or controlling governments that it would have really gone off the rails. I have noted the lecture and time mark and intend some day to make a beautiful piece of art out of it, maybe with a collage of Ideal Org buildings.

        If it doesn’t contradict itself, it isn’t Scientology!

    • Zana

      Tory McGoo…you are AMAZING. Thank you for being who you are. <3 Thank you for revealing more and more and more and standing for the truth. Love your presence on camera.

  • richelieu jr

    I’m sure cap’n Davey would get his panties in a real twist if he knew how much this little passive-agressive missive serves to humanize and garner sympathy for ‘MR’

    DM– to know him is to wish you didn’t…

    • Peggy oh!

      DM–to get away from him is to Don’t Miss him…

  • Dibythesea

    Please sign this petition to revoke CO$ 501-C3 tax exemption for charitable organazations. Nothing charitable about this chult!

    So far there are 202 signatures.

    your name will only be published if you want it to be!

    https://www.change.org/p/i-r-s-revoke-the-tax-exempt-status-of-the-church-of-scientology?source_location=petition_footer&algorithm=promoted

  • Dibythesea

    Question- when was the last DM was seen in public? Did attend the LRH bday hoopla?

    • L. C. Spencer

      I’m thinking it was the Sydney Ideal Org dedication.

      • Dibythesea

        LC- Refresh my memory, when was the Sydney Ideal Org Deadication? (Spelling was on purpose- grammar police)

    • Beth

      I’m curious about this too. When was he last seen in public? If at the Sydney affair, when was that?

    • NOLAGirl

      I don’t know if you could call it “in public” if only clams saw him, but wasn’t he at their New Years Eve event at St. Hell?

      • Beth

        An important distinction. I’d like to know the answer to both – last time in public public, last time in clam public.

  • i-Betty

    Sorry I don’t remember who it was, but someone mentioned that Alex Gibney had tweeted about Going Clear being available in the UK some time in April. Does anyone have the tweet or further info?

    • Dibythesea

      I-Betty if you click on one of Alex Gibney’s tweets from Tony’s Twitter feed above you can find that particular tweet even if you don’t have a Twitter account (like me). I think the tweet was from yesterday so just look on the right side of any tweet to find out how long ago it was posted.

    • NOLAGirl

      Hope this works Betty, he responded to someones question about it and said sometime in April. This link should show both tweets. *fingers crossed*

      https://twitter.com/alexgibneyfilm/status/578988184073207808

      • NOLAGirl

        I thought this tweet was pretty cool too. 🙂

        https://twitter.com/carlreiner/status/579533137375420416

      • i-Betty

        Thanks, Nolly! That’s exactly what I was looking for 🙂

      • Snuzey

        I didn’t know this, that’s great news. Thought I was going to have to wait for months! 🙂

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Yay! (Slight cognitive dissonance though, can’t buy the book, but can see the film–not that I’m complaining 🙂 )

    • coonellie

      I’d posted a link to the NPR (National Public Radio) blog about the book and documentary not being shown anytime soon in the UK because of the libel laws. I’ll need to hunt for it, but I’m glad to see HBO is getting around it. Wright’s book still isn’t available from what I can tell. This brings me back to Spycatcher and having to have a friend post it from the States ;). Now I’m really dating myself!

      • i-Betty

        I had Rushdie’s ‘Satanic Verses’ flown over from the States. I never read it, but I needed to own it 🙂 I was able to buy ‘Going Clear’ on Amazon UK from day one; they simply ship it in from France.

        Please keep us posted if you hear anything else about a UK showing of the documentary.

        • coonellie

          Will do! I’m also so, so, so sorry about the migraine. I’m a long-time migraineur so I hope it’s okay I send thoughts and prayers for healing your way.

  • AnonymousSP

    That letter from Miscavige back then makes one think, how much does Mike piss him off now? ha
    Can’t even imagine.

    • One Human

      Oh the fun this must have been:

  • SciWatcher

    Wow, judging by his writing, you’d think Miscavige never had even a high school education. Oh wait…

  • Amelia Williamson

    David Miscavige is a truly disgusting human being.

    • giggler

      A real scumbag

  • Dancing Cranberry

    Scientology: who would ever want that on their whole track!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    There was obviously an order sent out to flood CL –
    a whole clam-bake of new ads posted yesterday.

    Inflict the death of a thousand cuts to one cult here:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    The new $cientology ad clampaign has started:

  • Illinoisian

    David Miscavige’s mental condition, as reflected in this letter, shows that the world of Scientology’s upper reaches (the environment that included Hubbard and those at the upper levels) was, during DM’s early years, and still is, toxic.

    I think he, Miscavige, is the ‘perfect storm’ of conditions (small stature; physical problems; neglect by parents obsessed with Scientology; exposure to Hubbard’s emotional immaturity, mood swings, ambition and sadistic traits — and seeing others worship and kowtow to him; isolation from the outside world; stunted education; lack of exposure to culture and language; no role models for self awareness or critical thinking; stress on outward appearance with no substance, having power over others way too early in life) almost guaranteed to produce an insecure, petty minded, preening, paranoid, sadistic, controlling, self-obsessed sociopath. Not to excuse him; he makes decisions that hurt people and makes them consciously. But still, what a nightmare combination of evil influences on the one hand and lack of exposure to outside perspectives on the other.

    Everyone who grew up in that pressure cooker of influences, during Hubbard’s time, must have been terribly scarred by it. And this letter shows that Hubbard’s mental traits live on in the world at the top of Scientology.

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    If Scientologists had any clue what David Miscavige is really like, they would run for the nearest exit. This letter is just one small example of the crap he spews out constantly. We had to carefully preserve every one of his memos in large binders, and study them, “word clear” them, and so forth. Having to try to make sense of his rambling, illiterate, contradictory instructions was torture in itself. And it all had the same tone: I have to do everything, I am the only one doing anything, I am surrounded by Suppressives who are trying to sabotage everything I do. And the constant stream of sick sexual fantasies about what he imagined other people were doing.

    Miscavige hates and despises everyone. He is paranoid to the extreme. Everyone is out to get him. That’s why he removed every major executive and put them in the Hole. They were all SPs. If he seems to favor someone, it is only so he has an audience to spew his venom to. But eventually he turns on anyone, and there is no more dangerous position than to be Miscavige’s temporary “friend” and confidante, as Keenan is in this example. He will inevitably turn on you.

    I know people who spent years trying to get on Miscavige’s “good side,” only to realize that he doesn’t have one.

    • Observer

      He’s the ultimate CICS.

      • shasha40

        Obs, you never cease to amaze me with your shoops . 😀

        • Ella Raitch

          She’s a beaut!

      • Allie

        12 Shades of Miscavige, the Demented Evil Midget!

    • madame duran

      If he seems to favor someone, it is only so he has an audience to spew his venom to. But eventually he turns on anyone, and there is no more dangerous position than to be Miscavige’s temporary “friend” and confidante

      Meanwhile, Tom Cruise closes his eyes, plugs his fingers into his ears and yells “lalalalalalalalalala” to avoid all the warning signs.

      • Observer

        I have zero sympathy for Ol’ Top Gun. He’s benefited from the abuses more than most if not all the other Scilebs, and from various reports he is aware of the abuses. Is it “doing the right thing” if he stops supporting the abuses just to save his own skin?

      • Exterrier

        And oh, the contempt he harbors for Cruise.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      It’s a minor detail, but one thing that struck me when I read yours, Marc Headley’s and Lawrence Wright’s book is the recurrence of situations where Miscavige takes offense to more or less relevant slights and turns to his entourage asking “did you hear what he said to me?”, “did you see how he looked at me?”, “she looked at me funny”, etc. It’s at once a puerile way for him to seek validation but also serves to immediately inform the crowd where their loyalties should lay: *pie face*

      From the benefit of distance as a never-in, that just struck me as a troubling characteristic of someone in a position of leadership.

      I compare this with my recent re-reading of Elizabeth I’s biography. She was notoriously vain, indecisive, imbued with the certainty of her God given-rights, but she was also unquestionably intelligent and a skilled politician; even she knew her crown depended on the talent with which she surrounded herself.

      The difference in innate leadership skills (or lack thereof) is staggering.

      • April

        “did you hear what he said to me?”, “did you see how he looked at me?”, “she looked at me funny”…

        Those all sound like statements made by an incredibly paranoid person.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          Not always paranoia. Some situations I’m referring to were instances when someone pushed back a little by defending themselves, or in Marc Headley’s case the situation was pushed just a bit too far and a retaliating punch was the predictable next move. In those cases, Miscavige is like the taunting little shit who runs under his mother’s skirt when things gets real.

          • April

            Ahhh, okay I see what you mean.

          • AnyOldName1

            “taunting little shit who runs under his mother’s skirt ”
            Then turns into a “Mean Little Bitch” a few years later?

      • funnybroad

        Somebody not only said PIE, but they said PIE FACE!! That calls for a PIE-FECTA!

      • valshifter

        He said Penelope Cruz looked at him funny. paranoia.

    • aurora50

      Is there an extra CoS relevance to the way he referred to Mike Rinder, ‘ that vampire that is occupying England…’? ‘vampire’? ‘occupying’?

      • grundoon

        He’s trying to impress Keenan with his erudition.

    • Deeana

      “And the constant stream of sick sexual fantasies about what he imagined other people were doing.”
      You mean that Miscavige was writing stuff like this all the time? Was it usually based on homosexual behaviors?
      Hmmmmm…..

    • Synthia Fagen

      Wow. When I hear it from you it’s so impactful. I can hardly hold it all in my head sometimes. Thanks.

    • Exterrier

      That letter shows a toxic, hateful brain…I won’t call it a mind. I just see a big bell jar with formaldehyde on a shelf one day, and that wormy sample preserved for study purposes.

      • Davka

        I just think that letter is the work of someone who is mentally ill.

        • SciWatcher

          I wouldn’t say Miscavige is mentally ill…illness implies the ability to be helped. Mental illnesses like bi-polar, depression, schizophrenia, etc. all have treatments. Miscavige is a psychopath. There’s no treatment for that.

  • Zer0

    Let’s grab some takeout from Dean and Deluca
    A hearty gulping wine
    You be the showgirl and I’ll be Sinatra
    Way back in ’59
    Sweetness in heels – look at you – in long black gloves
    Come to old blue eyes tell me – who do you love

    • Robert Eckert

      Settle this once and for all: are you Liam?

      • MaxSpaceman

        Oi – suspicion of sock play. Okay . . .

        • Zer0

          Not sure what sock play has to do with Steely Dan lyrics

          • MaxSpaceman

            Lol !

            That’s what I thought, Zer0, I wouldn’t connect 0 w/ Liam, but- Robert has a nose for those things so to speak. So . . . nevermind

  • It’s shocking to see how much abuse can be crammed into a single page. Miscavige really is a piece of shit, and so is anyone who continues to support him (read: John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, Tom Cruise, and is Juliette Lewis still a Scientologist?).

    I loved reading that Mike Rinder walked away after this letter. It must feel so good for him to be able to say that.

    • Lucille Austero

      Yes, Juliette is a Scientologist. So is her dad.

      • That’s too bad 🙁

    • Peggy oh!

      I wish I were surprised at the seemingly stupid fact of DeMon *warning him of his plans in advance* but regular non scientology spouse abusers do this all the time. Some get out, some stay in out of greater fear…

      • You make a good point. Abuse is abuse is abuse. The damage it does to a person is horrific, whether it’s confined to a single household or effected upon hundreds of people in an institutionalized form.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        DeMon, love it Peggy, it goes with moRon so well, I’m going to ‘borrow’ it 🙂

  • Peggy oh!

    Another disquisition problem: my upvotes for other people’s posts keep disappearing. Not all of them, but like maybe 80%. Like the 80% narConon cure rate… It’s like it never happened…

    • NOLAGirl

      That has happened to me with Disqus before. Not sure how to fix it, it just straightened itself out after a day or two.

      • Robert Eckert

        Sometimes when I upvote it jumps me to the Disqus home page and I lose my old thread. Apparently they are updating the whole system for tracking upvotes and there are the usual glitches.

        • Peggy oh!

          Thanks Nola and Robert!

          I was getting disq- ouraged!

  • BabySmurfette

    A hilarious look at something we’ve all known for weeks now – The Church of Scientology is Bad at Twitter

    http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/966-the-church-of-scientology-is-bad-at-twitter/

    • Shanester

      This is a must read. I can’t bring myself to read the cult’s idiotic twitter feed, so I’m glad this writer bit the bullet for all of us. Love the cult’s tweet about “illicit sympathy”. Talk about a Freudian slip — the cult might wish sympathy for ex-members was illegal, but we all know the cult is staffed by a bunch of English-challenged rubes.

      • April

        bwahahahahahaha

      • Heidi

        What makes me crack up is that they’re paying for their shite to show up in my feed, yet they blocked me from their feed. Which means, they’re paying for me to see stuff they don’t want me to see…

        • BabySmurfette

          Twitter Tech

        • Shanester

          The cult puts “twit” into twitter.

        • Miss Tia

          mark it as spam!! i’ve marked enough ‘paid’ tweets as spam i get no more! 😀

        • L. C. Spencer

          This is an outstanding use of Cherch funds and makes me happy.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Sympathy IS illegal in scientology.

    • Best lines:

      “. . .with fewer than 500 followers and a constant stream of invective, there’s little separating Freedom Media Ethics from the average generic-egg-avatar GamerGate mouth-breather.”

      “Then there are the various missteps and bloopers that come with not knowing how Twitter works: The hashtagging of every name like quotes in a Zagat’s guide as if #SheilaNevins, the president of HBO Documentary Films, will emerge as a Trending topic”

      • BabySmurfette

        The comments section for this article is pretty entertaining too!

        • Robert Eckert

          DamOTClese is there (is he mad at us? still haven’t seen him back here although I said hi to him when he popped up in Sioux City), and this guy is great:

          Wolfman Jew • 6 hours ago

          At least for me, that Twitter feed is a prime example of how utterly clueless Scientology is in the modern day just because it’s what really brought me to learning about the Church’s actual crimes. Last year, I barely knew anything about Scientology. I’d seen the South Parkepisode, and I knew about how they bilked their members for money. Certainly, their fetish for litigation was well-known. But then, Nathan’s article about Freedom Media Ethics came up in January. And I went to the comments section, because the article seemed nuts, and why wouldn’t I want to read people mocking a Twitter feed that sounds like the name of a North Korean propaganda station?

          And there were jokes that I understood, but most of them weren’t about Xenu or Travolta, they were about blackmail and forced child labor and the Hole. Shocked at just some of the stuff people were talking about (the Narrator describing the head of the Church as “literally the Devil’s spawn” is not something one reads lightly) I bought Going Clear later that night, and quickly became fascinated with the secrets and horrors of the Church’s history. The forced abortions, kids being mutilated by unsafe working conditions in Sea Org, Hubbard’s own insanities…hell, I wouldn’t have known who David Miscavige was or anything about Operation: Snow White had they just shut the hell up. They could have stayed the wacky celebrity religion I’d have considered not important for such extensive investigation.

          The problem I see with Scott’s argument is that while it’d make sense to be defensive, or try to adapt in any way to criticisms, that offensive and aggressive strategy of bullying is hard-wired into the Church’s DNA. While Hubbard’s opinions on a lot of things veered wildly throughout his life, that attitude was always major, and it’s been so ingrained into the Scientology doctrine that I doubt it could be dealt with.

          • BabySmurfette

            That is (in a way) how I first dove down the rabbit hole. I saw a photo of an SO member in full uniform on the news as part of a story on TC’s kids possibly joining the Sea Org. I thought “No way. This is kind of out there. That’s a full Navy uniform…what????”

            And the Bunker has been hindering my productivity daily ever since 🙂

            • BabySmurfette

              And I think the name “Wolfman Jew” is pretty great too (hey, that rhymes).

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            “why wouldn’t I want to read people mocking a Twitter feed that sounds like the name of a North Korean propaganda station?”

            “I bought Going Clear later that night, and quickly became fascinated with the secrets and horrors of the Church’s history.”

            You’re a genius, David Miscavige. No, really.

          • Allie

            Great insights from this dude. Just the kinds of thoughts we want everyone to have.

    • Lucille Austero

      $cientology. Trolling the Twitter. For the fail.

  • Lighthouse

    You know, when Miscavige finds out that this memo has gone public, he’s going to go psychotic! Yes, I know he’s psychotic already but he’ll go even more psychotic. He’s right about one thing, we ARE out to get him. He’s not paranoid for nothing!

    • Allie

      Tick, tock, Davey. You.just.can’t.hide.anymore. No more secrets. You should have known.
      We know that you know that we know you know that you are a douche-canoe and an evil one at that.
      So now that we all know what we know, you just cannot hide. Bullies and tough guys really don’t make it very long. And Bubba’s waiting for you – because he knows you know he knows. Tick, tock

  • Mark

    Here’s what the vicious little squit’s letter looked like before the RTC typing-pool had at it (refresh with a spritz of ‘Vamousse’):

    • Suppressive Tomato

      I pictured it differently:

      • Scream Nevermore
        • Suppressive Tomato

          LOL, “We’re a knowledgeable family” LOL.

      • chukicita

        But now that *you cc’d him on it* he sure as hell knows.

        What a passive-aggressive douchecanoe.

      • Miss Tia

        is that chucky?! o_O

    • Scream Nevermore

      What, no kisses at the bottom??

      • Mark

        Eew ickyyy tHatt wud Maik himm a QUEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Allie

        Not even “much” love at the end. Davey was just not feeling it that day.

  • RK

    So glad I left this organization. Every day I am more convinced that I did the right thing. I never had any contact with upper level Sea Org personnel. However, the anger and disrespect toward others has infected all levels of Scientology. There are a few people on the outer reaches – remote missions, etc. – that have avoided the contamination, but the hate and abuse of others has blanketed pretty much all of the organization. The lack of moral compass is astonishing.

    • Allie

      So glad you left too, RK. Were you in for a long time? If it’s too personal, feel free not to answer.

  • aurora50

    O/T. Current top story at The Daily Beast:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/23/scientology-s-sneaky-ads-slam-critics.html

    ‘The Church of Scientology is famous for attacking its critics in every way possible. Now, to discredit HBO’s upcoming documentary, is it turning to…Google?’

    • Lucille Austero

      Tony O quotes! Go Daily Beast – Sunshine is the best cure for the cancerous sore that is $cientology.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Ya’ gotta love the close: “In the end, there’s no legal problem with Scientology purchasing ad space
        to attack a film it considers slander. It’s a way of shifting terms of
        the debate, moving it away from specific accusations leveled in the film
        onto the characters of the filmmakers and subjects.

        “But that may not be
        the most convincing method to discredit one of the film’s charges: that
        the church relies on intimidation and character assassination to
        silence its critics.”

        Ka-pow !

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          If it isn’t shifty, it isn’t scientology.

  • RK

    I’ve set my DVR to record the movie. I wonder how many people have also done so? The statistics on that would be interesting.

    • aurora50

      Was at a family dinner last night and surprised me to hear that the late 20’s-early 30’s crowd were all planning to watch it…when I asked why it seemed to be a combination of their exposure to Tom Cruise movies when they were kids and the weirdness there plus human rights abuses/disconnection. These are all college-educated, world-traveled, professional-types with very busy lives and are planning ahead to watch Going Clear!

      • MaxSpaceman

        love hearing that !

      • Allie

        I’m excited to hear this, esp. with the younger crowd being interested. Hope they will get their networks of friends to watch it and then have lots of discussions after the film. Who knows, maybe they’ll become active in bringing down the cut.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yay!

  • Scream Nevermore

    He writes like the uneducated, semi-literate scumbag thug that he is.

  • Gene Trujillo

    Miscavige sure seems to talk about other people’s homosexuality a lot (and in the most juvenile terms, it seems). Given what the psychoanalysts referred to as “projection”, similar to what Hubbard called “accusing others of similar overts” I wonder if Miscavige has a lot of suppressed homosexual feelings. Perhaps he has even SCOHB, he seems fascinated by the idea. It’s OK if you do, Dave. It doesn’t make you a bad person. Enforcing abortions, not taking care of families, long term neglect and abuse of staff, and destroying the families of anyone who questions or disagrees makes you a bad person.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

    • Suppressive Tomato

      You know he’s been trying to pull TC in for years! Big beings and such lulz.

    • Peggy oh!

      Hmmm SCOHB… Drop a few letters CO B… He’s cock on boulevard! Not just any cock but the top cock!

    • Ardent

      A cogent argument.

    • Allie

      Certainly could be true, esp. with his obvious attraction and interest in Tom C.
      Going on Tom’s honeymoon with Katie always creeped me out. Who does that?
      Esp. since Shelley wasn’t there with him and that would have been a foursome which no one
      would question.

  • Synthia Fagen

    Funny how Miscavige never thought to ask himself where his own communication was on the tone scale. LOL and I do believe Hubbard had that same blind spot if I’m not mistaken. 😉

    Good grief these people.

    To Miscavige, kindness, compassion, empathy, etc are a weakness and only to be feigned as an immediate expedient.

    He assumed power by grabbing the reins (not reigns – hehe) forcefully and with no one’s consent. He saw how effective that was and has maintained that mafioso stance ever since.

    The lesson that he hasn’t learned is that ultimately this strategy doesn’t work. So, instead of coming to terms with that, he just bats back reality, like an emotionally crippled juvenile delinquent wielding a two-by-four in an attempt to force his reality down everybody’s throats but, it’s not working.

    His stolen fiefdom is coming to a close because he has no other playbook. More of the same (which he cannot do anything but) will only get him more of the same rapid decline and global criticism he is experiencing right now.

    If he wasn’t such a monster, I’d almost feel sorry for him — almost. Like at the end of his journey, Sadaam Hussein became a frail and terrified man, so Miscavige enters his pathetic stage where the spell will be broken — finally to appear just as he really is, a loud-mouthed bully incompetently running a two-bit cult founded by a mentally ill, pathological liar with grandiose delusions.

    • Ardent

      Hi Synthia, I haven’t met you yet. I have to commend you on your comment. I think you’ll find almost everyone in The Bunker has a similar feeling about Miscavige. He’s certainly an evil man, and I would say undoubtedly a sociopath, possibly a psychopath. Dangerous. But prone to the errors you point out. Cheers.

      • Synthia Fagen

        Thanks Ardent.

        • Ardent

          You’re very welcome!

    • Allie

      Excellent analysis, Synthia.

      • Synthia Fagen

        Thank you, Allie.

    • grundoon

      he has his own tone scale
      Tone 4’13” – Serenity of COB’ingness

      Saddam, crawling out of his hole in the dirt, proclaiming, “I am the President of Iraq!”

  • Vaquera

    Tony O interviewed for this Vice article (disqus commenting):

    Meet the Hairdresser Who Claims Scientology Is Trying to Ruin Her Business
    http://www.vice.com/read/meet-the-hairdresser-who-claims-scientology-is-trying-to-ruin-her-business-873

    • Lucille Austero

      This poor woman. I’m glad she’s fighting back, but I feel sorry for her…

      • One Human

        Perhaps some local Anon’s can help keep a few extra eyes and cameras near for her.

        • Scream Nevermore

          And go in for some haircuts.

          • One Human

            Maybe bring that extra roll of TP or deodorant.
            OT/DR: I would love to have a huge SP/ANON p.r. drive to counter-act the whole WTH & CCHR bull$#!*, show them what REAL Human Rights championing is about.

    • Sherbet

      Doesn’t she post here on occasion?

      • noseinabk

        Yes.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        She’s a firecracker, Sherb. I barely remember her, but I remember sweet and smart and firecracker. I’ve seen her posts since, and heard all about her one woman stand in the shadow of Big Blue. The “free toilet paper with each haircut” – that’s Lynn in a nutshell.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Lookin’ good, Lynn! You look 20 years younger than that 20-something security monkey. Hey, maybe do a little fundraiser – buy your own private eye for a week or two and get that evidence on them. I like how the reporter didn’t believe until he joined you. No one ever believes us at first:)

    • sugarplumfairy

      Wow.. She’s amazing.. That 1-800-SeaOrg sign, so publicly displayed 350 ft from big blue, must reeeeally piss them off.. Kudos to Lynn..

      • Robert Eckert

        It’s 1-866-XSEAORG

        • sugarplumfairy

          Thanks!

  • Miss Tia

    maybe it’s been out, but i just saw it ‘trending’ on FB—the trailer for mission impossible 5….trying to get that out and hype built before march 29th?? mission impossible: rogue nation……no thanks….cruise is already starring in scientology: rogue church…..

    • Heidi

      I’m using it! Sending out the hashtagged tweets!

      • Miss Tia

        what hashtags are you using on twitter? i just noticed this on FB in the trending area—that i can’t get removed but considering i got all their other BS blocked i shouldn’t complain about that one 😉 ……taking a break from a project that i have to do the long way cuz my computer has a date with a sledgehammer soon—that would be counterproductive….but um, yeah, i’m gonna go all gallagher on it some day! 😀

        • Heidi

          There are the ones I use in general: #Scientology #GoingClear #cult #Miscavige Then there are the specialist hot topics, like today’s #MissionImpossible.

          • Miss Tia

            ah, okay, i didn’t know if you were talking about mission impossible or not…..my mind isn’t working well today…..

            • Heidi

              My mind never works well! 😉

            • Miss Tia

              yeah, what am i saying, mine doesn’t either….

        • Ardent

          Sorry to hear you’re having computer trouble. I know the feeling. May I ask what make and which operating system is giving you trouble? I’m no IT guy, but I’ve figured out a few things about the Universe of Computers.

          • Miss Tia

            thanks ardent but i have a very old computer—it’s about 11 years old…..i have xp, which is fine….but there’s not enough ram (i think that’s the right phrase) and i have the original video CHIP built into the mother board so a lot of new fangled things online aren’t functional for me because now there’s graphic cards–i have looked into it, i can’t add a graphic card to this because it doesn’t have enough power (i think that’s the ram again, and i can’t add to that because the system isn’t built for that)…..right now i can only have one program going at once…..some i can’t run at all….google earth? not happening anymore….so firefox, then i gotta close that to check email….then i gotta close that to go back to firefox….some days it takes 45 minutes or so before i get to my start screen when i first turn it on……the only thing i was ever able to add to it was a hard drive about 5 years ago because i only had a 10GB hard drive until then and well that didn’t work well and i lost some photos of my furbabies with a cobbled together collection of external hard drives—which were also only 10GB…..so i DO have space now….just no power and can’t multitask and it complains and bitches and it’s gonna be smashed one day…..only thing that stops me is that my computer is my only contact with the outside world!!! HAH!

            • Ardent

              OK. You have one issue immediately apparent. Windows XP was a nice platform, but they don’t support it anymore, and you can’t buy a PC loaded with it. All you can get now is Windows 8, which is an obnoxious OS, in my opinion. It has a terrible interface with the user. I’m using it now on my secondary computer. My primary is an Apple iMac.
              Now, an iMac is expensive. I would suggest you have a serious look at one of the Apple laptops (be sure it has a disc drive). The Apple products I have had have almost never, and I do mean that, never given me grief. On top of that, when confused, the AppleCare people on the phone are brilliant and patient.
              If you can save up, I think you want to get an Apple with plenty of RAM, a dual-core processor, etc. They almost always come with great graphics cards, BTW.
              I am NOT interested in getting into and Apple V PC argument here. This is just my suggestion to help out Miss Tia.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Good call, Apples are by far the best for not having to worry about anything (and this from a PC die–hard!) Win 8 is a great tablet/phone OS, but rubbish on desktops.

            • Ardent

              Thank you. I dislike the increasingly heated back-and forth about PC V Mac. But I have owned. and DO own both. The Mac rules.
              And to be clear, I think Miss Tia could find an affordable Apple laptop that would suit her right down to the ground and not cost too much. AND she’d have the peace of mind that the thing is far less likely to crash, get viruses or generally act like a pig.

            • Richard Grant

              There are some refurbished iPad Mini 2s on the Apple Store website for $249. These are pretty much all-round functional computers for the kind of stuff most people do — web browsing, email, twitter, watching videos, word processing (if you can adapt to the virtual keyboard), photo editing and whatnot. They come with all the software you really need, so you just have to avoid the temptation of the App Store. I used an iPad for everything for years, but finally went back to a MacBook to get serious writing done.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Windows 10 is coming out! By all accounts it is much better than 8. iMacs are nice but she could get a Windows 10 pc much cheaper.

              I have a Mac and like it, but it’s not true that people never have trouble with them, or that AppleCare is always helpful. If someone were concerned about how much they spend, I’d vote against a Mac not just because the initial cost is higher, but any necessary repairs will also be higher.

              They do have great graphics, but most modern devices will at this point. Miss Tia’s problem isn’t the wrong device or OS, it’s just the age of her device.

            • Ardent

              Well, yes, an old computer is just that, and they get cranky and are surpassed by the requirements of what is actually online.

            • nellnee

              My five-year-old MacBook’s hard drive died in July. A friend who knows what he is doing put in a larger drive, four times the memory and a new optical drive for $200 (all parts bought on Amazon). So really, if you have a guy, repairs are not that bad.

              And in 15 years of Mac products, never had a virus or a need for virus projection software.

            • L. C. Spencer

              “if you have a guy” (and thus don’t have to rely on AppleCare) is the key here. Most people don’t have such a guy, and Miss Tia definitely doesn’t.

              But, although Macs are not nearly so invulnerable to viruses as Mac users believe, it’s true that they’re a lot less vulnerable than PCs, at least for now.

            • Jenny Daniels

              I’ve been a Mac user since 1985-6!
              They are never cheap, but the Apple website has refurbished computers which come with a warranty. There are other sources for used Apple products besides Apple and eBay depending upon where you are.
              Sorry Miss Tia that you are having problems all the way round!

            • Ardent

              That’s a point I hadn’t considered. Miss Tia, there are shops, approved by Apple, that will sell refurbished laptops or desktops for far less than current new retail. Check those out.
              Great point, Jenny!

            • Jenny Daniels

              Thanks, Ardent!

            • Miss Tia

              well i live on $735 a month…..i could probably save a couple hundred by the end of the year if i didn’t buy extra food and had zero furbaby emergencies….yeah….not happening….fuck…..my life is depressing….. 🙁 thanks for the suggestion though!!!

              i DID have a tablet a couple years ago i had to sell to get brake done on my van—and i am STILL annoyed about that….i used that EVERY DAY…..i was a stupid fuck and i asked a friend if they minded if i sold a sewing machine they gifted me (i have never, to this day, taken it out of the box, this lady is very nice and generous but she is always trying to give me new hobbies—i just like to cross stitch, last xmas they sent me a water color paint set—i have no idea about painting but they thought i should learn o_O ) as i felt that was the right thing to do…..they got all upset about it, how could i? blah blah blah and i said i’d have to sell my tablet that i USED EVERY DAY and i had never taken the sewing machine out of the box and couldn’t foresee when i could ever afford buying material to even try to use it…..stupidly, i let my conscience dictate and i didn’t sell that damn sewing machine, i sold the tablet i used every day to cover my brakes…..someone got a steal for $150—cuz i didn’t even want to profit, i just wanted my brake work covered…..took me all year to save for that tablet too…..

            • Ardent

              Oh boy. I am so sorry you’re up against the wall. What a crappy series of events.
              So, let’s not get down or daunted. Your income is fixed, which means splashing out on something like a new laptop is A: impossible and B: Incredibly stupid. So, perhaps the ancient standby of a change jar might help?
              I had a good friend who got a BIG glass jar and put every day’s loose change into it. It was amazing how much she put together in about 5 months, an she went on a long trip to Europe on the jar-money.
              As for your State EPA nightmare…You have my genuine sympathy. Keep your chin up! Cheers,
              Ardent

              Edit: spelling

            • Miss Tia

              yeah, if you have cash and spend it you can save a lot of change…..because of where i live the odds of me having cash is extremely rare……i just use my bank card for everything and i can actually tell you probably within the $1 how every dollar is gonna be spent—-i rarely have any extra and if i do, i do ridiculously lavish things like buy extra food myself (believe me, i FEEL selfish doing that) or you know, or i prefer to put it towards the vet bill (they let me run a balance) and ensure the furbabies are stocked…..

              i HOPE to have x-stitch items to sell in fall—if my arm will cooperate i should be able to get quite a stock pile of items made up to be able to open an etsy store…..THAT is a plan i have, though knowing how things go for me, i shouldn’t plan for anything ! 😀 –i TRY to keep a sense of humor!!!! …..you know what else will be in that etsy store besides x-stitch items? that damn sewing machine!!! so to ensure my arm doesn’t hear about this and decide to really act up and go on strike for a few months—let’s pretend i never mentioned this!!! 😉 hopefully though i could get something with the proceeds from that….–don’t tell my arm!!

              thanks ardent!!

            • Ardent

              Miss Tia, I am always happy to try to help out. You are in a pickle, for sure. Damn. I thought my change jar idea was perfect for you. Crumbs.
              Look, if I find any really amazing deal I’ll let you know about it. I’ll keep my ears open for you. I promise.
              As ever, all the best,
              Ardent.

            • Miss Tia

              well if i wasn’t living below the poverty level a change jar is a fantastic idea!!! (i’d also need cash 😉 not safe to have around here!

            • 1subgenius

              I’m not one to tease, or make promises I can’t keep, but if I get to your neck of the woods (sometime in the next couple months maybe), I’ve got one for you.
              Half as old as your current one, and in working order. Windows 7, if I recall.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Nice.

            • Miss Tia

              Hey I remember that pix you posted—right in a blimp path! 🙂 That’s a very generous offer 1sub!

            • Donna Cline Sargent

              i am going thru the same thing.fixed income(same as you)and my computer is old and dieing.its my only connection to the real world also.good luck i hope you can get a new one.i am also trying to figure out a way to get a new one.

            • 1subgenius

              Hey, email Tony and tell him to forward your email address to me, and maybe I can just ship it.

            • Miss Tia

              i wouldn’t want you to go to any expense like that!

            • 1subgenius

              just do it

            • Robert Eckert

              Like 1sub, I have an old spare computer which is not in the best of shape but less obsolete than what it sounds like you have. I do intend visiting my buddies in Pittsburgh and Gettysburg maybe in early April and could swing through Akron if you are still in need at that time.

            • Frank Lee

              Hon have you looked into market research in your area? There is cash to be made for little time and your opinion!

            • April

              What you have is an integrated video card/chip. They still make those on low-end computers. Difficulty running more than one app at a time does sound like a RAM issue though.
              I had to replace the family computer this past Christmas when the 7 year old Dell desktop up and died on us. I replaced it with a $300 new Dell from Amazon that multitasks and handles video/audio streaming very well; I can send you a link if you’re interested.

            • Miss Tia

              thank you april….that’s okay, unfortunately that’s not something i can afford—-or could afford in the foreseeable future either 🙁 pathetic, i know…..$300 is sort of an irritating # for me right now because i’m expected to basically pay ‘ransom’ of that amount to the ohio epa so my license plate registration isn’t suspended because of THEIR continuous failure to tell me the correct information over months of inquiry……they admit they gave me the wrong information but too bad, i better i pay this ransom (that irritates them every time i call it that but that’s basically what it is) or my plates will be suspended and i’ll be driving illegally……total madness….that’s the short version….if you truly wanted to the long version email me and i’ll fwd you the email i sent off the ohio epa, the bmv and state representatives…..

              $300 for a desktop though is a FANTASTIC price!!! i actually HAVE a decent monitor…..a friend got a new one and gave me their old one…..just the desktop itself…..now i’m grumbling more about the damn ohio epa…..grrrrrrrrr……

            • Dale A.

              TIa,
              In addition to comments made by others, you will no longer be getting security updates for XP. Not only will your computer buffer constantly, there will soon be big voids that can be sniffed out by hackers. I know it’s painful, but all relationships eventually end.

            • Ardent

              I find Microsoft’s behaviour about XP reprehensible.

            • Miss Tia

              i totally concur about that….i actually got kicked off and banned from a microsoft forum when they had some posting last year about how they needed every one to ensure people got off xp and to either buy windows 8 or get a new machine….i posted a politely worded response that many people with windows xp could not afford to either buy windows 8 or a new computer and it was a disservice to them to forget about a large portion of their users like that as not everyone is fiscally able to just go get a new computer, no matter how much they would like one or need one…..people started to agree with me and before i knew it, my comment was removed and i went to post again and i was banned!!!!

            • Ardent

              Well…Another reason to put Apple in your ‘long-term-plan’ basket. How creepy and assaholic of them. Windows 8 is such a pestilence.

            • Miss Tia

              it really annoyed me…..i was polite and courteous in my post….just wanted to point out to them that not all users of xp were able to afford that, ya know? i understand a lot of businesses wouldn’t think about that but they gave that zero consideration….even businesses that used xp –a lot of them couldn’t afford to upgrade…..my doctor’s office still uses xp…..

            • Ardent

              Yeah. I know. I liked XP.

            • MrsLurksALot

              Believe me, businesses had to deal with it, too. Unexpected purchases outside normal operating budget. It sucked, but we made it work. Damn Microsoft!

            • Miss Tia

              oh i’ve heard horrible things about windows 8…..a friend had to get a new computer and after 3 months of windows 8 she sent it to one of her kids and got a used computer with windows 7…..another friend lasted one day, returned the new laptop and she bought a mac!!

            • Zer0

              Windows 8 is a total nightmare. Avoid it like the plague.

            • Miss Tia

              i DID read that they are gonna let people with windows 8 (i think windows 7 too) upgrade to windows 10 for free…..

            • Ardent

              I’m not surprised.

            • ze moo

              Corporate Microsoft is almost as bad as $cientology. Except no Hole, and disconnection is going to Linux.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              I’ve heard that Microsoft has their very own “Hole.”

            • Miss Tia

              i get the malacious software removal update once a month…..well relationships eventually end, but i have nothing to go too…..so i’ll just have to remain in an abusive relationship—-i think my computer is the battered partner cuz i am continuously yelling at it and threatening it with violence!

              (please, no one think i am making light of domestic violence, as i am not!!!!!)

            • Ardent

              No, No, and I WAS in an abusive relationship – yes, guys can be abused, too. No harm done. I actually thought that was funny. Keep your metal meat-tenderizing hammer beside the thing to keep it on it’s toes, why not? Also, you might try love-bombing it so it behaves better?

            • Miss Tia

              i have a 10# sledgehammer and i am NOT afraid to use it!!! 🙂 i’m also proficient in the golf club weaponry…..creative weapons in the ‘hood…..no one would EVER expect someone to protect their property with a golf club and tomato cages! 🙂 my 10# sledgehammer is my ‘nuke’!

              yeah, unfortunately domestic violence happens to men and women—-most people don’t realize that….i’m so sorry that happened to you….i remember you mentioning that before….i’m so glad you are FREE of that now! you’re a very caring man and you deserve the best!!

            • ze moo

              Try to instal a early version of ccleaner. Clean out your registry and other crap. That will restore some speed. Depending on the Microsoft Malicious Software tool is just not safe. Technology is great, until you have to update because your older tools don’t do the job anymore.

              The only complaint you got with stone tablets was the weight.

            • Miss Tia

              i’ve got that…i also have anti-virus software…..i would NEVER just depend on microsoft…..i run hijack this every few weeks too……my AVS is great and they do remote sessions for however long—even days—it takes……

            • MaxSpaceman

              and XP on the Internet will be open season for viruses and Trojans. Malware of all kinds.

            • Dale A.

              Thanks Max. I meant to say malware etc, not hackers. My brain is tired at the moment.

            • Miss Tia

              i have an AVS!

            • MaxSpaceman

              It won’t be able to protect XP machines.

              You will be doomed by Malware x infinity.

            • Miss Tia

              well it SAYS it does and it’s blocked sites and i’ve done some remote sessions with them recently……i also run malware bytes…..i might have an old decrepit computer but i’m not totally clueless….well wait….maybe i am….yeah…probably…..OT: it’s snowing!! i guess mother nature didn’t get the memo that it’s spring!!

            • MaxSpaceman

              ok. I hope you can continue for a long time. 🙂

              XP itself though will be vulnerable to everything/anything. Hopefully AVS will keep it safe 🙂

            • Miss Tia

              vipre, from my experience, is very good…..i have no complaints and i’ve used them for years…..scans are run regularly, i run hijack this frequently and also malware bytes….i learned almost 20 years ago to always be on top of those things and that habit has never left me….. first sign of an issue i immediately think ‘virus’ and run scans and check everything out….i TRY to be as proactive as i can be…..

            • Jo

              Maybe you could change your operating system to Linux? My PC is ancient, never have any problems with it. I’ve had more problems using windows and ruined my iPad cause I used the cheap charger.

            • Miss Tia

              someone suggested that a few months ago in a FB group when something was conking out on me…..taking off windows wouldn’t change the hardware my computer has…..that’s where the issues are mostly….unfortunately…..

            • ze moo

              Been there, done that. Look for a used ‘puter with windows 7 and at least 4 gig of ram. You can figure out your needs for the rest of the specs.

    • Scream Nevermore

      I’ve stolen that too! 😀

    • Juicer77

      MI5 ads constantly yesterday afternoon. Only tolerated them because I love Simon Pegg. Release date is July 31. Mr. J made a good point that J.J. Abrams, one of the producers, also is doing the Star Wars redux due out at Christmas. Since the Star Wars franchise is bigger than Mission Impossible will ever be (Mr. J and I both agree on this), very likely Mr. Abrams is being a smart marketer and spacing his releases accordingly.

      • Allie

        Not only is J.J. spacing the releases for his movies, I think he’s trying to get a head start on the MI-5 promotion because he knows the fall-out after Going Clear could be horrendous and his big star (TC) may be aggressively attacked. I wonder if J.J. will see GC and what he will think of it.

        • Robert Eckert

          I would expect he has seen it already.

      • Miss Tia

        i really can’t wait to see how the MI5 press with cruise plays out……can he totally avoid scieno questions?! we’ll soon find out! 🙂

  • Deb

    People may say that Cruise isn’t super-smart, but how could he call this compassion?

    • Miss Tia

      well gosh, he was gonna give rinder 10 quid!!! how much more compassion you want?

  • Panopea Abrupta

    I don’t know if I am in the correct forum.
    But here goes.
    I’m trying to shop for a tool for a tool, a vice for a vice lord and his vice-captains,
    and i need some advice on devices.
    You see, i reckon that, come next Monday,
    Tom “Expert” Cruise, Jorm Revolva and Tiny Tosspot will all have their nuts in a vice.
    So, do I go for a one-size fits all solution or do I need a bespoke approach?
    There are many hobby vices, pin-vices, hand-held carving vices, even spring-loaded vices.
    As i have no experience in dealing with such devices and even less with their use as restraints,
    any help would be great.

    Also, if anyone knows where i can get eternal batteries, I would really appreciate it,

    Con-fused in Con-necticut

    • Rasha

      I know who the “Baby Vice” would be useful on…..

    • Billy Bob

      Vice Grips are handy, adjustable and easy to apply, over and over.
      .
      http://images.toolplanet.com/Popup/VIS-9SP__1.jpg

      • ze moo

        I use that exact vise grip to do brake jobs.

    • Dale A.

      All their nuts are between the ears. There are no nuts anywhere else. Start the decision making process with cranial measurements. Then go to hobby shop which supplies tools for dollhouse building.

    • Rasha

      Sic some squirrels on ’em….

      • Juicer77

        Winner! ^^^

    • dungeon master

      Not a tool but.. A nutcracker!

  • sugarplumfairy

    That idiotic letter is probably the best thing that little asshole ever did for Mike Rinder.. And I mean ever, ever, ever, ever, ever…

    • outraged

      The straw the broke the camels back, so to speak.

    • Allie

      Obviously Miscavige copied Mike as an attempt to keep chastising and castigating him for his ineptness.and because DM is a slimy douchebag. I wonder if Miscavige ever dreamed that Mike would blow because of this or if he thought Mike would just keep taking the abuse, like everyone else did.

  • Kim O’Brien

    So now …there are articles about how stupid scientology’s Google campaign is LOL . The Daily Beast had one today and there was a pretty interesting comment about how Sea World and scientology are just going down the drain . So , Going Clear is to scientology like Blackfish was to Sea World . I love irony so,so,so much

  • outraged

    Question: Where do I watch The Movie if I don’t have HBO?

    • Lucille Austero

      HBO. (okay, okay, door hitting me in the butt on my way out)

    • Dale A.

      Find someone who does. That’s my solution.

      • outraged

        trying…..

    • Lucille Austero

      Rent a hotel room for the night and invite some like-minded friends over to watch it with you. Add popcorn + caek = WIN

      • outraged

        well, sounds fun, but that costs more than adding HBO to my cable package. :-}

        Plus…I am kind of in secret with my friends about my anti-$cion life. NO one knows yet. Which is WHY I want to watch the movie. It is time to come out of the Never-In $cion but Hate This Fuking Cult Closet.

        • Allie

          FYI: Some friends told me to call cable provider and ask for a free trial of HBO. (They always do this to watch the Tour de France and then cancel it). So I called them and now have HBO for free for 3 months. They started it immediately so I know it works.
          So give it a try. Good luck, outraged.

          • outraged

            hahaha. We switch back and forth from DirectTV and Cablevisions because of the Tour. Now my husband watches the Spring Classics on the computer which is a pain but is live. Right now the Tour is on Cablevision. lol

            I’ll ask. Can’t hoit!
            I’ll be sure to let you know if it works.
            I’ll tell them it’s for Going Clear and I only need one day.

            I do have a friend who gave me his HBOgo password, but wouldn’t you know he is now moving and cancelled optimum. Somehow hubby is still watching Walking Dead…maybe it will last a few more days.

        • Lucille Austero

          Oh hey, Outraged – I’m right in that closet with you!

          • outraged

            You are? Yay! I am not alone in the dark. :-}

    • Toni m

      You can be here at The Bunker a let this good friends be your eyes and ears. I will.

      • outraged

        Thank you, but I with all this build up, now I want to watch and I think it won’t be too upsetting.

        But where??

    • Zer0

      Linky for you: How to get HBO Without Cable

      http://www.popsugar.com/tech/How-Get-HBO-Go-Without-Cable-35437405

      • outraged

        I heard about this. It is not available yet, but for my family, it costs the same as adding HBO to Cablevision. Which hubs says NO! to.

    • ze moo

      Time Warner and DirectTV are having a free HBO weekend early in April. You should be able to see it on those providers at that time. If you don’t have either of those providers, wait for some basic cable station to run it. I doubt that any real broadcast tv station will ever run it, but you never know. Eventually, I expect it to make its way to Hulu or another streaming service.

      • outraged

        I have Cablevision.

  • YSCOHB

    Poppin pimples is my middle name and it’s also whad I duz; so fuck the lotta yaz!!!!

    • Graham

      Poppy Pimples, the Petty Little Bitch.

  • Ben Franklin

    More unbelievable stories about Miscavige and the infamous “Hole”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x03d2peNX5o

    • aurora50

      The ‘Mike and Marty Go Fishing Off the Dock’ series was my first exposure to the current state of the cherch…I thought it had disappeared sometime after the 60’s…it is a good introduction for ‘never-ins’ who have the time to watch them all…I think there are about 6 or 8 all together. The one about Battlefield Earth is a classic!

      • Ben Franklin

        The videos reveal quite a bit and help connect a lot of dots.

  • David E Love

    I think this is on topic because it refers to the HBO documentary. It’s from a comment on one of my Exaimer stories about the HBO film, VERY SAD::-> “It’s about time!!! Scientology was the nightmare of my life. I am so happy to see it finally exposed for what it is – a dangerous cult. During my twelve years in this cult, I was imprisoned twice in their prisons, stripped of everything I had (money and identity), and forced to have six abortions. It took me almost as long to get over the experience I had in Scientology as I was in it. I still have nightmares about it (PTSD). Thanks so much for warning others to “Beware Scientology!” …. Sad to hear about stories like this, but very happy that this HBO will expose the cult and help counless people to avoid what this woman went through, and to help those already out.

    • Lucille Austero

      Amen.

    • Beth

      The floodgates are opening. I’m so glad that people are finally starting to be able to speak out without fear. Every last one deserves to be heard.

    • Toni m

      I can’t understand how this country that sends the army to fight for others in faraway countries, is doing nothing to protect its citizens from this mafioso organization. It’s well documented, evidence is available of the crimes they are committing every day under the protection of “religion”. It’s a very sad story Mr Love but it needs to be known. I agree with her, thank you HBO and everybody involved in making this great documentary.

      • Frank Lee

        I sent notification to my local mayors, police chiefs, city counsel members, friends, neighbors and co-workers to watch this important documentary using the image below and the title “A Clear and Present Danger.” The more people who spread the word to leaders, the more impact it will have to bring about change necessary to end the abuses.

      • villagedianne

        When we fight for others in faraway countries it is because they have natural resources we want to control, or they live in areas of strategic importance for the US.
        The fight against Scientology is an information war. When the media was afraid of them, they won. The internet, and the efforts of crusading reporters like Tony Ortega, changed the playing field. IMO the US government won’t intervene in Scientology unless either there is public outcry, or COS becomes so weak that it is an easier target. I hope it happens but IMO it is the information war that will finally end the Church of Scientology’s long reign of abuse. At this point the word needs to get out to the non English-speaking countries.

    • Allie

      People keep saying Scn is worse than you think and I have no reason not to believe that.
      But then comes this story of a young woman who was imprisoned twice and had 6 abortions in 12 years.
      Un-fucking-believable. This just outrages me and my blood pressure has definitely increased. All I can ask is why this fucking organization continues to exist and has for so many years. Words can’t even describe how I feel about it and Miscavige.

      • One Human

        Allie, I also found this comment on WWP’s ‘Tom DeVocht says – Stop your bullying Scientology and leave my family and my friends alone!’ thread:

        Thanks to Tom for speaking out more.
        But enough of this cat and mouse stuff with DM. I know it must be satisfying to string DM along and keep him guessing, but everything needs to be out.
        The general public finally has it’s interest peaked about Scientology in a more broad manner. With all that is going on, all exs need to come forward and strike while the iron is hot and tell all NOW.

        Judi Light for instance, she is the one who witnessed more than one dead baby in the Sea Org nursery. She told Hanna Whitfield about it. She needs to come forward.
        As well as the rest who have any stories that show the COS’s crimes and abuses. Their tax exemption needs to go away. It would really tank the cult.

        The Sea orgers need to be saved now. And it can’t happen soon and enough and it won’t happen soon enough with all these “more to come soon….” stories.
        My 2 cents

        RightOn, Today at 12:29 PM

        • One Human

          I would like to know EVERYTHING there is to know about the nursery era.

        • Allie

          I know there are hundreds maybe even thousands of stories like this out there.-and worse. Everyone does need to speak out about them. I’ve only been Sci watching for about 1-1/2 years and they are very painful and heart-breaking to hear. I can’t imagine living through the traumas or those who have been hearing stories like this for a long time. My hats off to everyone for your compassion and continued activism. I’m just getting started.

        • villagedianne

          The Sea orgers need to be saved now.

          We have been saying that for a long time. But it looks like it is getting closer.

    • ze moo

      Thank you David Love, ‘Stories of the Real $cientology’ are the best pr money can’t buy.

  • i-Betty

    This is the worst day to get a migraine. I am 1-finger typing that this is one of the best Bunker blogs I’ve ever read, but that is the only contribution I can make today. Thanks, Tony.

    • Miss Tia

      now give miscavige an american one finger salute and go treat your migraine!!! ((hugs))

      • NOLAGirl

        You have email dear. ; )

        • Miss Tia

          i know it’s been hours, but i was working on my project with mr. google….gonna get off firefox and go to mail……

    • sumertin

      Take an Imitrex, or any of the triptan drugs. 30 minutes from now you won’t even remember what having a migraine ever felt like.

      Btw, eye strain is a major cause of migraine headaches. You may want to lay off the laptops, ipads, iphones or anything with a bright screen for a while.

    • Allie

      Take care, i-Betty. I feel for ya, migraines are the worst.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      hope you feel better soon.

    • Juicer77

      🙁 Sending healing thoughts your way

    • Imitrex!

    • Frank Lee

      Did you know that the gene that carries the tendency for migraines also carries the tendency to walk or talk in your sleep? A doctor once told me at the onset of a migraine, have a drink with lots of caffeine and sugar. That should knock it out unless you already consume too much caffeine! My fav is dark chocolate covered espresso beans!

    • villagedianne

      Feel better, i-Betty.

  • Billy Bob

    So many stories. Is there a place that collects ALL the Co$ stories?

    • One Human

      Many places have collections, not sure about ONE complete set.
      Operation Clambake
      Ex-Scientology Kids
      Why We Protest
      Youtube
      And of course, The Underground Bunker
      File away the favorites you find and feel free to share elsewhere.

      • Billy Bob

        Because there are a finite number, there is a weave of people and places with 2 degrees of separation that awes me. That it is a shared suffering demeans what could be a fantastic interconnection.

        • One Human

          Yeah, each site I have explored has it’s own atmosphere to explore.
          I found The Bunker to be most in-tune with my tastes, but I do lurk elsewhere when I need something else at the moment.
          Let me know if you find a good timeline breakdown; I am starting to feel the original issues that hounded LRH/Dianetics/Scientology may have a part in the final undoing.

          • grundoon
            • One Human

              grundoon, thank you for reminding me of this; I fear I forgot about it because of how fixed I was on the layout of the timelime.
              It is definitely worth revisiting.
              I see the 34th anniversary of Sara (the second wife he never had) going to the press; if only that would have ended his influence on the world at large.

    • Shanester

      A good place to start is the huge collection of stories on the Ex-Scientologist Message Board:

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/forumdisplay.php?2-My-story-from-inside-Scientology

    • Robert Eckert

      Typing in xenu.net brings up the Clambake home page with an astonishing list of links to places to look, or you can follow Google’s autocorrect suggestion to Mycroft’s dox archives.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Depends if you want your stories fact checked or not, or if you want to nibble one crumb at a time, or have the whole pie served up ala mode.

      • funnybroad

        You said pie!

  • First Last
    • HillieOnTheBeach

      I’m not sure Tony needs to thank anyone for being a credited, on the record source for their article. I however appreciate very much that the Kidman wire-tapping angle isn’t the focus of the Going Clear buzz.

    • Allie

      Great last sentence of the review: In terms of buying Google ads “that may not be the most convincing method to discredit one of the film’s charges: that the church relies on intimidation and character assassination to silence its critics”. Bingo!

      • Juicer77

        It’s like people are starting to catch on to them!

        • Allie

          Yup, isn’t it delicious?

    • sugarplumfairy

      Remember the good ole days.. when you could keep up with media enturbulation?

  • Peggy oh!

    Youth for human rights…doing something…reminds me of this…

  • Science Doc

    A tip of my hat, the fedora or the pork pie even, to Tony and Mike for today’s story. This story has quantitatively if not qualitatively changed my view of Scientology and David Miscavige. It is significantly worse than I thought.

    • Robert Eckert

      It always is!

    • funnybroad

      pie!!!!!

  • Staying in $cientology is not good for your long-term health. For example, John Travolta has gone to the dogs.

  • Frank Lee

    Off topic: Any past Co$ members ever hear of Manfred Ekkehard Scharig?

    • grundoon

      You mean Manfred Ekkehard Scharig, partner in Wall Street Brokers in Seattle together with published author Lorelei Stevens Scharig (who Scientology ordered to disconnect from her mother Pat Krenik)? Nope, never heard of him. Why do you ask?

      • Frank Lee

        Kudos to your ability to search the internet, which isn’t always accurate, and proves you truly have no information.

  • Jgg2012

    Reading Miscavige’s letter, I get the impression that he DOES run the day to day affairs of the Church (“I’ll be doing all the events.”) That is not what his lawyers have been saying in court.

    • Lucille Austero

      You are correct, Jgg. DM is only the Ecclesiastical Leader of the cherch, a figurehead, if you will, and many days, he is so worried about being recognized and mobbed by an adulating crowd at the airport, that he has absolutely zero time left to think about the day to day operations of the cherch.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Also, they might scuff his loafers as they rush to kiss his feet. It’s not easy being pope.

        • Lucille Austero

          And then he would have to take the time to properly instruct a minion as regards the procurement of new John Lobbs.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Nobody appreciates what David Miscavige has to go through every day. Nobody!

            • Observer

              Nobody knows
              The entheta he’s seen

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              perfect.

            • Observer

              Okay, there’s a shoop comin’

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              yay

            • 1subgenius

              Ha! A friend toured with Lucky Peterson (ahem, I won’t repeat the stories), and I saw him at the Magic Bag in Ferndale. Have an autographed hat.
              And I followed him out of the club as he played in the middle of Woodward Avenue by way of remote mic. There’s a moment.
              Oh, and I also saw his dad, James Peterson, and have an autographed CD.
              There are far worse ways of spending your time and money.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Just too cool. He’s one of the many fine, fine who made their way to not really retire here in Florida. His life story is out of this world. There’s a better way to spend your money? I think not.

            • 1subgenius

              Yeah, I was about the only one to follow him out of the theater. The people driving by must have wondered wtf.

              Only other guy who I saw do that was Bobby Murray, who was Etta James’ guitarist for years, and is based here locally now.

              But I’m not counting other guitarists who roamed about but stayed inside the club.

              Like Joe King Carrasco.

              One time I was sitting at the bar when he jumped off the stage, as he does, and into the crowd. I stood up to see where the hell he went, but didn’t see him.

              When I went to sit back down on my barstool, I couldn’t because Joe King was on it playing.

              The bartender poured him a shot of tequila, he downed it without missing a beat, and jumped back into the crowd and eventually back on stage.

              A rock and roll moment.

              And in case you don’t know who that is:

              http://www.joeking.com/

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEM0DuuQCqk

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oooh, greeting Mr. Hole with this one – I like his 96 Tears version too. Never heard of this one. Maybe Mr. H will – His antics remind me of Chuck Berry – always around in St Louis.
              Is DM still looking for wear his hat went? lawl

            • Robert Eckert

              Nobody knows but Xeeeeenuuuu…

          • Allie

            Of course he would. A simple shoe shine just wouldn’t be good enough for the popester.

        • Allie

          THDNE, your sense of humor always delights me. How did you ever survive in CoS since they don’t seem to have a sense of humor of all? Obviously it was/is very stifling.
          Humor is the best sunshine any time, anywhere.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Scientology didn’t survive ME, heh. Also, I was on tour most of the time, and when at ground zero, managed to lay low and keep out of target practice sight of management. It is so much worse today, which boggles my mind as I typed that.

    • Juicer77

      (F5) Cause I can’t post this too often these days!

    • Yes, but his lawyers pause every couple sentences to hear their next lines.

  • Richard

    The Underground Bunker versus Scientology

    For most of us followers here on The Bunker, for quite some time now, we have been reading a daily story about Scientology.

    But, for some strange reason, Tony Ortega has yet to dedicate a single day when he gives a positive report about ‘our favourite religion.’

    OK. That’s a stupid thing to say, because this blog is quite obviously a fight against Scientology.

    Having said that though, is there not something that could be considered good about Scientology, to genuinly counter all the negative publicity it has received?

    I remember when Dan Brown’s book “The DaVinci Code” came out, and here in Italy there was a bit of an uproar about it. The Catholic Church vehemently rejected the book. But so much so that some high ranking bishops took to the stand and strongly spoke out against it in front of a live audience. These events became heated debates, and whatever the outcome was, it can be said that the Catholic Church certainly stood their ground and defended their beliefs.

    So why can’t Scientology, openly, do the same thing against the criticism it is receiving?

    And why do they have to publish full page advertisments in national newspapers to show how great they are, or at the same time try to smear any person who disagrees with them?

    Well, that’s quite obvious to all of us here on The Bunker. But only to us, or to those people who know a bit about how Scientology really works.

    So, would it not be interesting if Scientology could simply stand up for themselves and openly oppose the stories on The Underground Bunker, in a face to face debate?

    For instance, The Underground Bunker could pull out its ten best stories why Scientology is a fraud and Scientology could, at the same time, counter that with their ten or even twenty best reasons why their religion is beneficial to society.

    Of course, it could never happen, and the reason for this, at least as far as I am concerned, is that all Scientologists, and in fact Scientology itself, know that they could never stand up to any form of honest questioning or debate.

    • Observer

      And I doubt Scientology would, or indeed even could, be honest about anything. Dishonesty is in its DNA.

    • Juicer77

      You silly, logical man, you 🙂 Your questions are sound and your conclusions are as well.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      The Underground Bunker: Honesty is the best policy
      $cientology rep, Acunto: Honestly, it’s the best policy

    • Richard Grant

      I’m no expert on the history involved here, but I can think of a couple of times when Scientology did try to mount some kind of affirmative PR offensive. Dave Miscavige did one interview with Ted Koppel. Mike Rinder and Tommy Davis both appeared on-camera to defend the church and — at least in Tommy’s case — punch back hard at critics. I think there’s a widespread consensus that these things all backfired.

      More recently, Sylvia Stanard of the COS “National Affairs Office” in Washington (which I think is basically an OSA operation) spoke at the Chautauqua Institute, where she tried to put a safe mainstream-ish face on the church. There were some pointed questions from the audience and I gather that she handed them reasonably well, though apparently didn’t convince anyone of anything.

      I guess it’s kind of interesting that even though PLB has somebody competent like Ms. Stanard, he doesn’t trust her to do much of anything. I think there’s something to be said for the school of thought that Miscavige really doesn’t care what the general public thinks — his only concern is keeping the remaining flock in the fold and the whales writing big checks. But I’m not sure that explains the whole flurry of recent public foot-shooting. I think he may be in panic mode.

      • Richard

        I have seen all three of those moments that could be defined as a defence of Scientology All three were disasters. Miscavige , Davis and Stanard told outright lies but were never properly questioned about those lies.
        If, in any of those three occasions there had been a proper debate, which never, in fact, happened, any one thing that was said by Scientology would have been shredded to pieces under cross-examination.

        • Richard Grant

          You’re right. And this is a growing problem for them, because the general level of public awareness is rising dramatically. The COS will have an increasingly hard time finding any forum where they won’t face tough questions. They’ll just have to keep draining the cash reserves to run their advertising (and slander) campaigns.

    • ze moo

      Honest discourse or debate is not in the clampires vocabulary or mindset. All you would get is ‘acceptable truths’.

    • grundoon

      “they could never stand up to any form of honest questioning or debate”

      That’s why L. Ron Hubbard gave strict orders, engraved for posterity on cold chrome steel, that they must never be drawn into debate, and instead must always attack the questioners.

  • Hmm. That Coast Guard ship is still in Aruba, but the Freewinds has done a runner to Curaçao in its usual spot by the bridge. (Leave the ship, cross that bridge and keep going until the American consulate is on your right.)

  • Alex Gibney just popped up on the BBC just now

    pic

    • I’m also pleased that for “convicted fraudster”, they guessed former Canadian Conrad Black. (Although “Casino Jack” and title figure should have been a clue.)

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    “Kenny has had a long and successful career as an Auditor to this point
    and with Golden Age of Tech II can take you up the Bridge faster and
    smoother than ever.”

    Serious question: how can the auditor take you up the Bridge faster and smoother than ever” if the e-meter doesn’t lie about your case? Doesn’t that imply (s)he avoids inconvenient questions that ultimately disqualify the scilon’s bridge gains?

    • grundoon

      What matters in auditing is not the questions or answers. What matters is that (1) the auditor ends the session on a high note, after (2) the PC cooperatively responds to numerous repetitions of Hubbard’s “comm cycle” under the auditor’s “start/change/stop” control, while (3) the clock ticks away on the PC’s prepaid “intensive” auditing hours, and afterwards (4) the PC opens his/her wallet and buys more auditing, books, training, etc. Also (5) the auditor sticks to the Hubbard-branded processes (to protect the Chruch’s (supposed) brand integrity). If these 5 are done, then nobody cares what goes on in the auditing room, whether truth, lies, or glossolalia. If the PC believes he/she gets something out of it, so much the better… that’s the reward that keeps auditors slaving away for year after year on no money and no sleep. But as for the nature and significance of whatever the PC personally gets out of a Scientology process, generally nobody but the PC will ever know or care. Hubbard forbids PCs to speak about their own “case” or about the workings of the “processing”; so they can only brag vaguely about the glory of their “gains” thanks to LRH hip hooray.

  • Lucille Austero

    Get a load of Kenny’s weird and suspicious Best Man get-up.

    • Allie

      Nice photo op for him. His vest and tie match perfectly with the Sci sign behind him.

      • Lucille Austero

        Yes, his matchy-matchy plus $500 large will get him all the way up the bridge.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          He used to be Vice Pres and his wife Pres at Seattle. I wonder what he had to wear as VP? Must have been pretty awful if This is his better choice as a “new” staff member.
          This is how scientology counts “stats”.

          http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/entity.php?ntt=1257

          • Lucille Austero

            What? They are lying about Kenny? Seriously, this is just like their idiotic Twitter chaos. They do not KNOW that they look like stark raving lunatics (ooh, that reminds me of LRH) to pretty much EVERYONE.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I’m going with “community senior brain fart” – staff at sci Washington State – Scientology orgs are starting to make Bingo and Bowling for Seniors ook pretty good.

              [img]http://i.imgur.com/4NsAT3E.jpg[/img]

            • One Human

              My big fear- IDEAL nursing homes / retirement communities.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oh lawdy. Oh lawdy no.

            • Allie

              You hush up. Don’t give Davey any more Ideal Ideas. Besides, I don’t think he gives one wit about seniors (except if they’re whales or have a big IRA or inheritance).

            • One Human

              Sadly, it worked for Jim Jones.

            • Lucille Austero

              There appears to be a serious affinity for brown up there – this is way more brown than I am comfortable with.

            • Always Amazed

              How about a caption for the guy with his pie hole wide open. Nothing I can think of is post-able.

            • funnybroad

              PIE!!!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              There ‘ya go, AA. Around this joint, ask and ye shall receive, eventually, sometimes instantly.

          • Juicer77

            He looks like he’s trying to muster up a smile but is not really committed to it.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I Know that look – senior citizen complaint #47: constipation

            • Juicer77

              Poor guy. All that rice ain’t gonna help.

            • One Human

              So his success is based on him being full of shit?

  • Pierrot

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  • One Human

    So kinda OT/DR, kinda not.

    THDNE mentioned no one appreciating COB, and I was thinking of the ventriloquist dummies, so I googled:

    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/08/scientology_concentration_camp_the_hole.php
    A must read from a great writer!

    • Robert Eckert

      And from the comment stream, this classic:
      OTVIIIisGrrr8!Aug 2, 2012

      We in RTC remind all of you Wog Haters that we live on a prison planet that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by Sea Org members with e-meters.

      Who’s gonna do it?

      You, Tony Ortega?

      You, John P.?

      We in RTC have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom.You weep for the people in the Hole and you curse we in RTC.

      You have that luxury.

      You have the luxury of not knowing what we in RTC know. That the SP Hole, while tragic, has probably saved the Church millions of dollars in lawsuits had these people escaped. And our existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, Clears the Planet.

      You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want those people in SP Hole, you need those people in that Hole.

      We in RTC use words like human rights, civil rights, and humanity. We use these words as a propagandistic smokescreen against a life spent torturing people. You wogs use them as if they really meant something.

      We in RTC have neither the time nor the inclination to explain ourselves to you homo saps who rise and sleep under the blanket of the very Planetary Salvage we provide, and then question the manner in which we provide it.

      We in RTC would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise,we suggest you pick up an e-meter and sec check your neighbors. Either way, we don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

      • One Human

        Nice catch RE!
        OT VIII’s cousin, Mr. Burlwood, was riffing the other day at the People article; equally funny!

      • Phil McKraken

        That makes me smile.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      This reminds me – love to see “Going Clear 2: The Hole Does Not Exist. I actually refer to All the holes in scientology – all the places where RPF’s have been tortured staff, all the holes in the Hubbardisms and policies, and the holes in our head for being caught in that trap in the first place. I and a few hundred or thousand more of us would love to contribute to That doco!

      Yes, poor David Miscavige. Just look at all the jobs he has to do, like putting diapers on one of his best soldiers, Norman Starkey. And that’s just one out of so many. And he’s the only one who can do it right, and do it all.

      “Norman Starkey ASI/RTC — “Trustee ASI. His rank was Captain Right Arm as he was actually a captain of one of the Sea Org vessels in the early days and worked with LRH. He became a shadow of a man. He was on the Anderson Cooper week-long series on violence in Scientology, claiming Miscavige never laid a hand on anyone. He once got his ears boxed so bad that he had ruptured his eardrum. He once was made to wear only diapers by Miscavige. He was part of the group of people who were made to sleep out on the grounds and only take a shower with a hose and poop in a little bucket while chipping rock all day. I saw him hauling wheelbarrows in a blue boiler suit several times after he would be in trouble. He’s originally from South Africa and his wife is Maria Starkey — Miscavige’s typist or secretary (and person who handles his dogs). Norman also held the AVC Aide post for a while.”

      • One Human

        ^^Yes, yes, yes!^^
        Mini-series?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          “The Scientology Holes” heh

  • Mark

    Please don’t forget to vote for the changedotorg petition to revoke the CoS’s tax-exempt status, if you haven’t already done so (now over 200 supporters & aiming for 500): https://www.change.org/p/i-r-s-revoke-the-tax-exempt-status-of-the-church-of-scientology?source_location=petition_footer&algorithm=promoted

    • Lucille Austero

      Done!

  • Popcorn99

    Jesus Christ! Mike Rinder lied before and admitted it later. How can you take what he says on face value?

    • eloise

      You’re meant to be ON a bridge not living UNDER one, no?

    • MaxSpaceman

      Step right up

      • Mymy88

        hahahahahaha! Good one.

      • Always Amazed

        That deserved some sort of spew warning. funnneeeee!

        • MaxSpaceman

          I don’t know the shoop credit. I have an inkling it’s Observer, but I just don’t recall.

    • nottrue

      Hubbard lived a lie

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Jesus Christ! L. Ron Hubbard lied and never admitted it. He had to have his lying exposed by his actual grades in school and his actual record of service in the US Navy, his second wife that he was married to while still married to his first, and a host of others.

      How can you take what HE says at face value?

    • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

      The duress of being under the thumb of a megalomaniac who can take away your entire adult life tends to make people do regrettable things.

    • Lucille Austero

      Oh hello, Popcorn. Do you know many here lurrrrve popcorn. It might be dangerous for you here.

      • Juicer77

        Om nom nom nom…

    • God

      Don’t drag my son into this !

      • Snake Plissken

        Isn’t he dragging you into it too, since you fathered yourself?

        • God

          Damn ! Another Bill Maher adept.

    • One Human

      OOOHHH, your first comment!!!

      PLAY???

      • One Human

      • Snake Plissken

        It may be his first comment but he has a point, maybe we are being lied to. Maybe there really are 20,000,000 Scientologists and maybe there really were runways on Earth 75,000,000 years ago for Xenu to land his DC8s on.

        • One Human

          Hmmm… /s

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Can I be Xenu this time? I love movies.

    • Lucille Austero

      Here, little Popcorn – I have some butter and a salt shaker over here. Come on. Don’t be scairt.

      • One Human

        Salt, very bad for clams (and slugs).

    • Richard Grant

      I don’t ask this lightly, but who do you have to blow to get a literate troll up in here? It’s “AT face value,” you brainless little fuck.

      We have got, I’m guessing, a few dozen regular posters here for whom English is a second or third language, and EVERY ONE OF THEM writes better English than L. Ron Hubbard. This is the most literate blog in the Scientology whackosphere. Why do we get nothing but brain-dead OSA farm-team trash that can’t get to the end of a simple sentence without sounding like a bad parody of an online translator? Tell me that, please. And if you figure out who must be blown to get a more competent asshole assigned here, post photos including close-ups in full color and accompanied by a recent medical report.

      Thank you, and get lost.

      • Donna Cline Sargent

        i always want to say “Bill”?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Sleep deprivation + Hubbard education =

      • cdub

        In OSA’a defense, it’s hard to type blindfolded.

      • Could be mostly ESL at this point.

    • Anonymous

      If you are referencing the lies Mike Rinder told while still in the Sea Org, one must remember that for many of his later years in that organization, that was his job.

      He replaced several other professional liars that served in that role previously.

      Now that Mike Rinder is telling the truth, he is among the most credible / informed critics around…which is why wee Davey is so terrified of him.

    • Snake Plissken

      Did you ever see a documentary about someone who escaped from North Korea … well at one point that person used to say how wonderful North Korea was too.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Did you see the one on Anderson Cooper, about the guy who was born and raised in a North Korean prison work camp? It’s a must see!

        • Mymy88

          Oh! Is it the one where they had this huge snitch culture and he snitched on his own family, (I think his mom and brother) for food because he was starving? That one? Wow, I’ll never forget that one. You’re right. It is a must see! He has to live with that every day but he seems to be doing okay. He does have a lot of support though. I felt horrible for him.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            That’s the one. I don’t want to ruin it but it is a must see!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Patty Hearst

    • beauty for ashes

      I know right?!!!!!! Because I’ve lied before, you know stuff for my jobs and to be loyal to friends. Actually that is a lie too. I’ve probably lied to cover my ass, or cause I just didn’t want to deal with someone. I am such a bad bad bad liar too. I’m afraid no one should trust a word that comes out of my mouth ever again. What should I do Popcorn99?

      • NOLAGirl

        Beauty, didn’t you say MAC cosmetics were great? How will I ever trust you again? LOLOLOL!! 🙂

        • beauty for ashes

          Was I selling them at the time? Because I lie for my job, they call it customer service, but I think popcorn’s right. I’m a big fat liar who should never be trusted again!!!!!! NO get away from me Nola I’m too horrible to be looked upon!

          • NOLAGirl

            Awww honey, c’mere (((((hugs))))) No worries, they’ll find MAC lipstick and Smashbox primer in my cold dead hand. LOL Popcorn will just have to find a way to forgive you. 😀

            • beauty for ashes

              Popcorn’s saying if somebody lies once he is a liar erego Mike Rinder will always lie.
              I don’t think Popcorn will ever forgive! Oh the drama!
              PS MAC foundation while really great almost guaranteed to break you out, but lipstick very good!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I’m not sure what I’m up voting but I agree.

            • NOLAGirl

              She’s right about it, so you’re all good Todd. 🙂

      • One Human

        Yeah, lying: okay;
        admitting it later: untrustworthy /s

      • Sideliner1

        Beautifully said….Ashes!
        When the day comes the screen name will change to BURNTPOPCORN99!
        Hope He/she will realize Scamology only BURNED THEM IN THE END!

    • George Layton

      Does Dave deny writing or having seen what was posted above?

    • NOLAGirl

      …..

      • Juicer77

        Now, THAT’S funny!

        • NOLAGirl

          I <3 Troll Kitty. 🙂

      • Great. I just got that song out of my head.

    • 1subgenius

      Because of all of the objective evidence.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I know which face I believe:

      http://i.imgur.com/bQNAeK0.jpg?1

      • sugarplumfairy

        Wow.. That pretty much says it all.. Thank God he escaped..

        • Lurkness

          I have often thought these photos should be used when reporters question him about whether the hole really existed. Thanks THDNE

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Me too.

      • Donna Cline Sargent

        how scary he used to look. so glad he got out.i hope soon the rest will.

    • Lurkness

      Speaking of lies.

      To quote Tommy Davis, Scientology’s then-chief spokesman: “Of course, if it’s true that Mr.
      Hubbard was never injured during the war, then he never did heal himself using
      Dianetics principles, then Dianetics is based on a lie, and then Scientology is
      based on a lie. The truth is that Mr. Hubbard was a war hero.”

      LRH was NOT a war hero. Look it up for yourself. Look, don’t listen.

    • 1subgenius

      Word clear “ad hominem”.
      Even if someone is a liar not everything they say is a lie.
      For example, Hitler once said the sky was blue.

      • Lurkness

        And LRH is quoted as wanting to sell his “parishioners” a piece of blue sky.

        • 1subgenius

          No he didn’t, and that only obscures my point, but thanks anyway.

          • Lurkness

            “Let’s sell these people a piece of blue sky.”

            – L. Ron Hubbard to an associate in 1950, soon after the
            opening of the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation. (Jon Atack, A PIECE OF
            BLUE SKY: SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS AND L. RON HUBBARD EXPOSED, Lyle Stuart/Carol Publishing Group. 1990)

            You are welcome.

            • 1subgenius

              You’re right, but it’s an example of fraud, and I was trying to give an example of when a liar tells the truth.
              See Hubbard wasn’t actually selling a piece of sky, and if he was it would be fraudulent.
              So my point, and I did have one was…..

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          And we all know what he said about Jesus Christ, too! heh heh

    • Sergeant Pepper

      LRH is on video as a liar. He never admitted it, of course.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      Yes he lied for the “church”, orders given to him by Captain Miscavige.

    • Juicer77

      Hi, Popcorn. I believe Mr. Rinder because human beings can repent, and he has admitted many things that do not make him look good. That’s why. Now come on in and read some more articles here. Would like to see you comment again. I hope you are getting some sleep and something decent to eat.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        Well said.

    • Allie

      Well, you take what Miscavige and LRH says on face value, don’t you?

    • EnthralledObserver

      Oh, gosh… what was that lie Mike told again? Can you spell it out for me?

    • Observer

      Considering that he lied to make Scientology look good, that might not be the best thing to draw people’s attention to.

    • pluvo

      Well Popcorn, it was part of his job to lie.
      There are even drills in the Church of Scientology to become a good liar:

      “INTELLIGENCE SPECIALIST TRAINING ROUTINE – TR L

      Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to
      outflow false data effectively.

      Position: Same as TR-1.

      Commands: Part l “Tell me a lie”. Command given by coach. Part 2 interview type 2 WC by coach.

      Training Stress: In Part 1 coach gives command, student originates a falsehood. …”

      http://www.solitarytrees.net/racism/trl.htm

    • KNMF

      Scientologists lie (it’s policy), then they leave and come clean, then they become free.

      • SNAFU

        Scientology’s TR-L (Training Routine: Lying) is what many are trained on while in. Once free there’s no longer a need to prop up Hubbard’s scam using TR-L.

      • Frank Lee

        So that’s the bridge to total freedom!

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      I love the uproar Miscavige caused in Ireland by faking an interview with a top radio station and using the fake interview to prove Scientology was growing in Ireland. I also think it’s extremely funny that he claims there are ten million members, yet no one sees them. They must be invisible members. Hmmm, what were you saying about Mike Rinder? I couldn’t hear because there were too many people laughing about Miscavige’s sworn claim to a Texas court that he does not run the Church of Scientology.

      • Mymy88

        Oh me too! I loved how $cien thought they were going to be able to slither that one right past Ireland’s notice. Nope, didn’t work. HUGE ass fail. Ha!

    • Sandy

      Honest to Gawd. That really made me laugh out loud.

    • madame duran

      How can you take at face value the words of a vertically-challenged dictator who continually lies and doesn’t admit to the lying at all?

    • Frank Lee

      Because Co$ trains it’s followers to lie, those who get out refuse to continue! The audio tapes of Mike’s screaming harpy of a wife caught in action by the BBC convinced me.

    • chukicita

      How long did he hold executive positions in Scientology, Inc?
      Was he lying the whole time during his decades of service? How come this lying behavior wasn’t immediately recognized by the only real ecclesiastical science of the mind?

    • daytoncapri

      Popcorn. Please stick around, engage with us with a rational exchange of views. This one comment, with many replies puts you at risk of not being taken seriously. Respond and demonstrate that there is real depth to your thinking. To be silent after only one post means you surrender quickly.

  • Lurkness

    More evidence that David Miscavige is not a Scientologist and doesn’t personally believe in all of LRH’s woo.

    From the letter and his sarcastic comment:

    “…waiting for R [Ron] to come back so he can be permanently appointed for the rest of the universe as the International Finance Dictator.”

    May already have been noted, but just doing a quick drive by comment…

    • cdub

      good point — ron’s not returning, from COB himself.

    • Juicer77

      Here’s the photo of her shop window. Awesome! 🙂 (f5) Sign says: “We offer Sea Org members a free roll of toilet paper with haircut.” She also has several info sites listed including this one.

      • Frank Lee

        Is that because your hair looks like someone took a dump on your head when you leave?

        • Juicer77

          Joke response: ha! funny!

          Serious response: Ms. Campbell seems like a smart businesswoman who is trying to make her business succeed despite considerable disruption. The legendary lack of TP in the Sea Argh is well-known and worth ridicule.

        • Frank Lee

          I posted the comment above as a joke, before I scrolled further down and read about Campbell’s plight. I hope she continues to rise above and not let the a**holes win!

    • NOLAGirl

      Makes me wish I lived closer to her shop. I’d go have her cut my hair….just because. Love the signs in her window. 🙂

    • Mark

      ‘I also reached out to the Church of Scientology to get their side of Campbell’s story, but they declined to comment, saying they’re “a global religion that does not get involved in the business of hair salons.”‘ Oh yeah? (refresh with gallons of Ultra-Clutch):

  • Freethinker

    “Kenny….can take you up the Bridge faster and smoother than ever.”

    This sounds like a laxative commercial. Well, it is bullshit after all.

    • Rasha

      Something about that phrase “faster and smoother than ever” in the context of Scientology….

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Using the oiliness table again, possibly?

      • dungeon master

        Sounds like a sexual innuendo.. Going to be sick now.. Gah!

        • Freethinker

          Oh jeez! Now I have to get that image out of my head somehow.

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      We need that Smoove pic here again.

  • Observer

    Partial lyric credit to Robert Eckert:

    refresh

    .

    • beauty for ashes

      That face!!!!!! Can I just say the pleasure when you have to click “see more” sometimes makes it even better. I was like, oh cute Obs wrote a funny song… click…… O..ma ..gawd ,Genius!!!!!!

    • Robert Eckert

      The howling dog is what really makes it for me.

    • pluvo

      And the 3 stooges from LAX can sing the background chorus “nobody….nobody….nobody… “

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      There it is! You always come through. And there’s the little ethics sniffer hound too. And it’s even in the right key! So cool. Thank you.

  • ScnMonkeyNuts

    Got to get an early night tonight, but couldn’t let 6 days to go pass without a reference to The Prisoner, so here goes 🙂

    • beauty for ashes

      night monkey!

    • One Human

      Fantastic!

  • Frank Lee

    Just saw this on TV. Cruise: “the syndicate is real, a rogue nation…” “they’re coming after us with everything they’ve got.” “This may very well be our last mission.” “Desperate times, desperate measures.” Cruise is right, the syndicate IS real and he is PART of it! So how does it feel to be desperate Tom?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLHIJDOQdzM

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Prophetic even.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Hollywood just uses the same shit scenes over and over. Gee, never seen anybody run like that and how many times have we seen the bullets missing him over and over. Oh wait, a model gets out of a pool and does that thing with her hair. Never fucking seen that before either. Not, so tired!

  • Shanester

    Reading today’s story and comments has been an enlightening, entertaining and educating experience. Because if I don’t laugh I might cry and so I choose to laugh, and I feel privileged to share so many laughs with a bunch of jokers and degraders like all you folks in the Bunker.

    Today was enlightening because the last straw upholding any sense of the moral value of Scientology’s religiosity collapsed under the inconsequential weight of the leader of that supposed religion’s petty intellect. Seriously, after reading David Miscavige’s own words, it is any wonder that he thinks Dan Sherman is the greatest writer since L. Ron Hubbard?

    Today was entertaining because of the never-ending stream of lulz from the Bunker’s commenting community, all in answer to the question: How is this paranoid and vapid bully the ecclesiastical leader of a worldwide religion? Seriously, thanks for all the laughs.

    Today was educating because of all the great thoughts and analysis on the nature of Miscavige’s language, meaning and impact. These comments thread the needle from L. Ron Hubbard’s anti-intellectualism (from the guy who wrote “Knowledge itself is certainty; knowledge is not data”) through to its valuable final product: the clever idiot currently at the helm, applying Hubbard’s tech with certainty and leading this worldwide religion to its inevitable conclusion.

    Seriously, good times at the Bunker.

    • NOLAGirl

      You make the Bunker an even better place Shanester. ; )

      • Shanester

        Thanks! This is a distinction that you share as well, especially in the Twitter awareness arena!

    • shasha40

      I approve this message ! 🙂

  • Panopea Abrupta

    For Mr. Cruise, who considers DM to be a fount of wisdom, compassion and light
    and $cientology a beacon in the dark:

  • Elle

    “Right now you are living with a snake. The thing between me and you, buddy, is you don’t need to tell me all this other stuff. I know you know. And you know I know. And what he doesn’t know is we both know.”

    This reminds me of The Bride giving Sofie Fatale a message for Bill in Kill Bill Vol. 1:

    “As I said before, I’ve allowed you to keep your wicked life for two reasons. And the second reason is so you can tell him in person everything that happened here tonight. I want him to witness the extent of my mercy by witnessing your deformed body. I want you to tell him all the information you just told me. I want him to know what I know. I want him to know I want him to know. And I want them all to know they’ll all soon be as dead as O-Ren.”

    I know this: TIC TOC Miss Cabbage. Your life is about to change, in 8 more days.

    • madame duran

      Eight days? Try SIX (6). Doomsday is closer than you think!!!

      • shasha40

        I almost panicked . hee hee

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Me too!

      • Elle

        Oh crap! I really am getting old. 😉

    • grundoon

      Whenever David Miscavige says something halfway intelligible, he probably heard it in a movie.

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    Kenny Gagon, jez the last name is really Gag-on! haha.
    “New OT VII, Kenny has had a long and successful career as an Auditor to
    this point and with Golden Age of Tech II (it’s certainly been very long and he’s doin’ it twice) can take you up the Bridge faster and smoother than ever.”
    Except they have no people to audit and and take up the bridge. They’re practically begging! Yippee!

  • Mrs. V.

    Youth for Human Rights are building shaky scaffolding. Thank goodness for them! Mexico is saved!

  • Vaquera

    Alex Gibney will be discussing Going Clear in 25 minutes (8:00 EST/7:00 CST) on the MSNBC show All in with Chris Hayes.

    https://twitter.com/jigsawprods/status/580137881739665409

    • MaxSpaceman

      Nice grab! Thanky 🙂

    • shasha40

      Thank you ! Wasn’t even on my radar . Alex Gibney’s ” going ” to make me start following twitter ! 🙂

      • MaxSpaceman

        ( i bet that’s hyperbole. betting against the following twitter thing. )

        • shasha40

          Don’t be sorry , you speak what you feel . We’re family , we have the freedom to do that . 🙂

    • Aslan’s Own

      Shoot. I don’t get MSNBC and I can’t watch it live online because I don’t have the channel on TV! Grrrr….

      • MaxSpaceman

        no worries dear Aslan, you’ll catch it some hours later when Haye’s show posts to MSNBC.com 🙂

        • Aslan’s Own

          Great! Thanks for letting me know. I guess I’ll just have to try to be patient…….(hard to do).

          ETA: I just noticed your avi is a kitty!

          • MaxSpaceman

            My Chico the Cat (Soul Astronaut ) (as dubbed by Beauty FA)

            • Aslan’s Own

              I love it!

    • Mymy88

      Thank you Vaquera! I’m not surprised it is you who answers my burning question (see below copy and paste of my question posted on 3/11/15). The answer is 12 days! Not bad at all. And I’ve just won $10 on a bet I made with my mom. I bet it would happen within two weeks – so it got a little close, but just a little, ha ha! Ain’t it grand? Why yes it is!

      Mymy88 RMycroft 12 days ago
      SNIPPET: I wonder how long between today and when a major EVENING USA news network starts to squawk, during PRIME TIME, about something rather odd that has been spotted, in the distance, just coming over the horizon. Why yes, I’ma talkin about Observer’s mighty truthnami! I love the way it roars and rumbles as it makes its way toward the shores of a still ignorant public. I love being able to feel the vibrations of it coming up from beneath the earth into the soles of my feet. Oooo, it’s this really neat tingly feeling. It can only be truth! And it’s about damn time, too!

    • chukicita

      Thanks, Vaquera! I watched the entire show. Ironically, one of Hayes’ first interviews was with a reporter who was talking about someone being unfit to run for office due to his lack of understanding of the science behind important policies that part of his job would entail understanding if he were to win the election. She urged mainstream reporters to “make the call” and not say “well, some people think this and some think that” when 90% of scientists agree on something.

      But then Hayes at more than one place in his interview with Gibney did just that, reading Scientology’s ad hominem-laced “official response” and covering his behind. I thought Gibney did well, given the limited time. He didn’t really get to call out Cruise, but Hayes left him hanging at a really critical question – or at least, I didn’t hear his response.

      If I didn’t know anything about it, and only saw Gibney tonight, I would want to watch the film.

      • Robert Eckert

        Of course Hayes to read the Scieno statements, but then he asked Gibney to respond, and Gibney pointed out that when Rinder lied in the past it was FOR the church, because that’s what the church demanded etc. and about the “25 people” that he wouldn’t interview Gibney said they were just being sent to slag his witnesses, and how would Hayes react if at the last minute 25 people were sent to slag Gibney? (Hayes said he would have to do “due diligence” about who those people were)

        • chukicita

          thanks – i didn’t catch that last line of Hayes about due diligence; he said it under his breath almost, as he was wrapping up the interview. It was kind of a write-off response to Gibney’s question, I thought.

  • aurora50

    A few hours ago, Ben Franklin posted one of the ‘Mike and Marty Go Fishing’ videos. They were posted in 2010, and I assume made around that time. Particularly Marty seems relaxed, happy and ‘insouciant’.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x03d2peNX5o#t=10

    As we saw in the recent video of his deposition, and here on the Today show, it seems that years and years of standing up to DM and the on-slaught of the OSA et al is wearing on him…makes me so sad and angry.
    http://www.today.com/video/today/57144679/#57144679

    (I am a never-in and get that some think Marty/Mark is getting what he deserves…but it is hard to witness…

    • pluvo

      They were choosing to go public. Don’t be too sad – they are so much better off as when they were Miscavige’s enforcers and minions. Their earlier colleagues are meanwhile reduced to submissively obeying puppets without any life of their own.

      • aurora50

        I agree with you…was addressing the changes in Marty/Mark over the past 5 years which I was attributing to the relentless persecution by the cherch…which maybe it is something else. It becomes very easy to think we ‘know’ someone when caring about their story so much…

    • beauty for ashes

      I always give a thought to this 2010 video of Jesse Prince answering the question, “How should we feel about Marty Rathbun?”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqBA9qcu0Ws

      • Anonymous

        Jesse Prince was absolutely right about Marty…this was almost 5 years ago…Jesse nailed it well before most folks could have even guessed what might happen with Marty…

        • beauty for ashes

          You’re right, I had done a majority of research about a year ago, and Marty had made significant strides by then . So I guess I took it for granted. I really like Jesse’s perspective, I wish he was a louder voice in the community.

  • Hansel

    BK
    cc: MR
    RE: REPORT OF 30 MAY

    Dear Bob,

    Thank you very much for your report.

    In the last few weeks, it has not been nice. Do you know that pimple you saw? Well, I popped it.

    We’re talking two guys with one being the husband and one being the wife, going through Dean and Deluca catalogs.

    We’re talking the bald-headed guy preparing a gourmet meal the likes of which a queen has not even seen. There will be romantic music playing during the meal. They will listen to something with class, such as Anita Baker or Luther. They will have candles present to set the mood just right. We’re talking cooked pheasant with succulent gravy and white wine, served on a soft, silk table-cloth that has been freshly laundered and purchased from the finest table-cloth store in all of creation.

    We’re talking sorbet from France, the kind that must be procured by taking a plane to France and inspecting all of the finest ice-cream merchants that can be located, and purchasing only the sorbet that passes a very strict standard of quality. It must be firm and flavorful, yet melt in your mouth. It will be fed on a spoon of the finest silver construction, polished for days on end, with rags and the finest polishing cleansers. Two guys.

    SUMMARY
    Man, wait until you see what I’ve got coming. And it’s going to keep coming and coming and coming and coming and coming.

    Cheers mate.

    Much love

    DM

    • L. C. Spencer

      Awww yeeeahh.

      • Hansel

        You want a pony? Everything you desire can be yours.

      • beauty for ashes

        you need to edit and add F5!!!!!!! I almost missed this!

        • L. C. Spencer

          lol, thanks 🙂

    • Mrs. V.

      Lol!

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      ICK! (lol)

  • MaxSpaceman

    Join the Sea Org — that puts you right onto … not, no– not The Bridge to Total Freedom. Unh uh.

    Rather it puts you right onto

    The Highway to the Ethics Zone.

    (“ethics zone” in Micsavage’s note refers to The Hole. Slide by ChukiCita)

  • Valhalkarie

    Wow,everything is just proven to be true,every single accusation is proven true every hour. How can’t they see the world is not bigoted towards there beliefs,it’s the crazy guy that stole there churches scriptures and abuses it’s high executives. So many of there fellow members are gone,missing. How don’t they look at EACHOTHER and say wait we can’t ask about people we know,people we care about? Why am I getting sec checked for asking a question? There is a PTS in the highest reaches,there is no one in this course room.
    I just don’t understand why scientologists in won’t band together and take him off post pending an investigation. don’t they fear that there church may collapse due to mishandling by a high school drop out managing the orginaziations into the ground.
    They are encouraged to watch these smear videos,they are like a 15 year old girl having a temper tantrum during elections for class pres. Are they embarrassed,for the intelligence they have and the fact a church would even make such videos is so strange. The videos always praise the accused,it’s unreal. Guilty ppl do things like that,they of all ppl that look for ‘crimes” in every single human they come across can see that cob is everything and does everything LRH tells them to look out for. Helloooo!!!!

    • pluvo

      “Scientology’s Orwellian methods of control explained in a new book by Jefferson Hawkins”

      http://tonyortega.org/2015/02/20/friday/

    • Hansel

      There’s nothing to rescue in the beliefs or practices of Scientology. Only the people are worth extracting.

      • Snake Plissken

        You might be able to salvage a few ashtrays, but even those are becoming less in demand these days

  • beauty for ashes

    http://www.milner.com/jumpstart/jumpstart-tampa
    Vote for the soldiers and the kittehs! and somebody remind me to try again in two hours! F5 for ***sigh**

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I set my phone to go off every day so I don’t forget to vote on my phone and my computer. Remember, real cheaters cheat ever when they’re ahead. And we have beaten them!

      • beauty for ashes

        I’m not cheating I just keep forgetting later and later. So I just went to check and it must have been too early yet. I still want to make sure wounded warriors win too!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I just don’t want to forget!

          • beauty for ashes

            LOL! I never WANT to forget, I just always do!!!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      They are able to show the vote totals now – WW and Humane are well ahead for now.

      • beauty for ashes

        Thanks Free<3, I had a heart to heart with my mechanic today about how we basically abandon a great deal of soldiers' needs (that were created by being of service) once they come home. So it's on my heart today.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Yes, I agree. A lot of military families are on Food Stamps because the pay is so low. And when they come back, there are long wait times for help if they need help. The son of a colleague was found dead of a gunshot wound in his bedroom after he came home. A young man with a lot of promise. It is a real tragedy to send those young men and women to fight and not support them when they get home.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      What a priceless picture.

    • Robert Eckert

      I thought it was going to be this one:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC5DXGIC8s8

      • beauty for ashes

        I have never seen this particular one, but I have watched hours of dogs and soldiers reunite! Dogs really express it and don’t hold back. The dog at one point is literally sounding like he’s crying, “I LOOOOVE YOOOOUUUU!” Its the kind of homecoming I wish they all could get. 🙂

        • daytoncapri

          Some folks don’t like woo, and might want to skip this: This story is from my late mom – who was a very down-to-earth person, really. When my brother came back from Korea in the mid 1950s, my mom told our dog that he would be coming home that day. He really did seem to understand, and he went to the end of the driveway and sat and waited for him, facing north. Mom said, “No Snuffy, he’s coming up from Florida.” But Snuffy parked himself and sat, pointing north. Lo and behold, the car came from the North. It turned out that my brother rode in a car pool with another serviceman, who was dropped off first in Springfield – and the car came down to Dayton from the direction that Snuffy anticipated. I was a little kid at the time, but I remember the reunion – it was a lot like the video, except Snuffy would run and jump up on my brother, share some love, then run around exuberantly in our front yard, then jump on my brother…repeat. Pure joy.

          • beauty for ashes

            🙂 love it! (I don’t mind most woo either 😉

      • aquaclara

        Beautiful. Simply beautiful.

      • daytoncapri
    • Zana

      Thank you for reminding me!! I was wondering about that!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Going Clear on Chris Hayes’ show on MSNBC right now! 20:45 EDT.

  • Robert Eckert

    Gibney will be up after the commercial break (MSNBC)

  • TonyOrtega

    The great comment that Jeff Hawkins made earlier has been added to the post.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      What a creepy freakin guy,

  • Angry Elf

    I just love the, “Much love”. If ever a word was used inappropriately, it is in these types of communiques.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I couldn’t figure out what ML, meant in those vicious text that Rinder shared. It’s beyond bizarre to txt, YSCOHB. Much Love, L. Then Tommy rushed to send his love message right back to mein fuhrer!

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    For the third season in a row, Big Brother Canada seems to be barely aware of the existence of the province of Quebec, much less acknowledge its anglophone population.

    I, taking the scilon cue, intend to pen a strongly worded letter to Global and make both statement and threat to express my discontent and promise to never watch their channel again. So there!

    /sarcasm

  • EnthralledObserver

    Given the picture of Miscavige I’m beginning to get via leaked documents and testimony from Exes who have spent a good deal of time with him I’m looking at that Ted Koppel interview from a different perspective. He actually did rather well… considering his regular, sick, twisted, hateful, illiterate and ignorant spewings. The hours upon hours of drilling paid off!

    No wonder he honoured himself with an award.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Very fine. Alex Gibney & MSNBC. Chris Hayes did good.

    A 15 minute segment (minus commercials, of course).

    • Sidney18511

      Alex is a cutie-petoodi. I just love that guy!

      • MaxSpaceman

        And he’s a masterful documentarian. That film is hugely impactful.

    • outraged

      That’s a long segment. Yes!!

      • MaxSpaceman

        That’s what I’m talkin’ about !

        • outraged

          We are mainstreaming it now.
          Next, 60 Minutes!

          Can’t you just hear that clock ticking away on Miz Cabbage? Tick tock tick tock tick tock, the alligator is coming to get him!

    • Robert Eckert

      Chris knew what the important issues were and asked the questions that let Alex say all the things he needed to get said.

  • TonyOrtega

    Alex did great.

    • SNAFU

      This is paraphrased, because I’m not 100% certain I got the middle portion of Alex’s excellent answer word for word: I think people are entitled to believe whatever they want to believe, but when human rights abuses come into play that’s where the rubber meets the road.

      • Mymy88

        And let us not forget when he says, “I find it, frankly, ridiculous”.

        Okay, okay, that was from one of his other interviews, but it’s stuck in my head, in a good way.

  • outraged

    Just got lost in Disquick.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology moved quickly to respond to
    Alex Gibney’s appearance on MSNBC by airing the following ads:

    • MaxSpaceman

      Bottom picture Attorney Yingling, minimum $1 million per year income from Scientology Incorporated. (estimate: Business Outsider)

  • funnybroad

    This pie is for Mike Rinder.

  • Mymy88

    Woooo hoooo! That was the first time ‘Going Clear’ was talked about on a major US news network during Prime Time, HELLO! As far as I know, but I don’t even care if I’m wrong because I’m just that happy that the truth is finally beginning to be heard by everybody!

    • Robert Eckert

      I guessed the NBC interview with Rathbun (when that prematurely leaked) was destined for Dateline, but the Today slot in the morning was an even bigger exposure.

      • Mymy88

        Oh, I didn’t know it was leaked.

        • Robert Eckert

          Shortly after it popped up on the NBC site it was taken down, so I think it was an accidental leak (not supposed to have gone up in the first place). Then they were getting so many inquiries about it they had to post it for good.

  • Fred G. Haseney

    Body Routing NOT—March 23, 2015—Vermont Avenue and Sunset Boulevard, Los Angeles, California

    Today, I tried something completely different, something much more direct in disabusing the general public from ever seeing a “free” Dianetics movie or getting a personality test, and the results were nothing less than spectacular.

    As I exited the bus at Vermont and Sunset, I quicked checked out all four street corners, and found only one corner on which two Scientology Inc. Body Routers stood. I decided not to approach their target (I’ll call him “Jim”) until after the Body Routers had handed Jim a ticket and tried to get him to go with them to Scientology Inc’s complex. When the light turned “green,” Jim came my way as I crossed to street to join him on the crosswalk.

    “Those guys who just gave you that ticket are Scientologists,” I declared. Holding Lawrence Wright’s Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood & the Prison of Belief in front of him, I continued, “This book is an expose on Scientology. In fact, the expose can be seen on HBO this Sunday at 9:00 PM.”

    “Really?” Jim asked rather thougthfully.

    “Yes,” came my answer, “and I if I was you, I’d throw that ticket out. Don’t go near Scientology.” He looked rather convinced, so I took off down Sunset Blvd., heading west.

    I noticed a gaggle of Body Routers and Scientlogists at the north east corner of L. Ron Hubbard Way and Sunset. One of the Body Routers had attempted to interest a public person I’ll name “Tom,” who stood waiting for the light to change so he could cross Sunset. Again, with the Body Router just a couple of feet away, I walked right up to Tom.

    “Did you know that those people who just gave you those Dianetics tickets are Scientologists?”

    “No.” Tom replied innocently. His eyes spoke otherwise, because deep down inside my statement brought to this surface the guy’s own knowledge that something with the Body Router’s pitch didn’t seem right.

    I held up Going Clear for him to see and pointed to it.

    “This book is an expose on Scientology. A movie based on the book will be released Sunday night at 9:00 PM on HBO.”

    “It will?” he asked, his eyes widening.

    “Yes, and if I was you, I would throw those tickets away. Don’t go to Scientology because all they want is your money.”

    Rrriiippp! Tom tore the Dianetics tickets in half as his jaw dropped to the ground! It looked like something had dawned on him as we spoke and had come to fruition when I mentioned the word “money.”

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Well done that’s the way to do it!

      • Fred G. Haseney

        Todd Tomorrow holds a special place in JennyAtLAX’s heart, and now her creator gets the opportunity to say “hello.” Thank you.

        • beauty for ashes

          I’m curious how JennyAtLAX would respond to these tweets? ETA F5

          • Re: Beauty for Ashes asks, “I’m curious how JennyAtLAX would respond to these tweets?”

            Re the Tweet: “Shelly complained to me that… Jen[ny] Linson was ‘hitting on Dave.’

            “I, JennyAtLAX, declare and state as follows:

            “I know every quarter inch of Four Feet Thirteen (“FFT”), Tiny Dick, Baby Dick, Wee Wittle Davey, Mr. Pencil Dick.

            “Oh, and by the way, did I say FFT suffers from TDS (“Tiny Dick Syndrome”)?

            “I know every inch of “The Hole” and Los Angeles International Airport (“LAX”), too, but that’s neither here nor there.

            “I declare that the foregoing is true and correct.”

            JennyAtLAX

            http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/02/acd.01.html

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Spit out my rootbeer! Ha Ha!

            • Guest

              Cinnabon, my ass! Next time you’re at LAX, look me up in Women’s Stall #4 because I’ve got some measuring to do.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              It’s a date!

            • Hey, Todd Tomorrow! After years of living in the “Hole,” and being released for stalking missions at LAX for Four Feet Thirteen, I’ve gotten pretty used to eating out of garbage cans and dumpsters. Question: Why pay full price at LAX’s Cinnabon when you can find an almost full container of those sweet things in the trash? Say, where do you buy your Root Beer…

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Hey Sweetpants! ,
              I never buy anything on sale. I’ll treat so we can get a couple of fancy Root beer. I’m so glad that you are out now Jenny. I’m actually trying to max out my cards so I can declare bankruptcy. Maybe you could help me file the papers? I’ll get you a few nights at a Quality Court.

            • Hi, TT!

              I’ve already done the credit card thing, all in the name of “Scientology Inc,” so yes, I could give you a couple of tips (before I joined the Sea Org, I drove my company into bankruptcy that the U.S. tax payers footed the bill for, all for Four Feet Thirteen).

              What did you %#@&*$% say: “I’ll get you a few quality nights in court”?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I like your politics my love and we can maybe go see a movie, too. I count the days on my iphone until I’m back in the city of Angels. Your right I’ll just grab us a six pack of IBC, root Beer. It’s a mid grade beverage. XXXOO ,Todd

    • aquaclara

      These are great results, indeed. Countering the body routers and letting people know about the identity of the routers plus Sunday’s expose- WIN!

      It takes a lot to speak up. What a great job.

      • Fred G. Haseney

        Thanks, aquaclara. Yes, identifying the Body Routers (who look like they’re dressed up to park cars at a night club or service you in a hotel lobby), is key. I realized that the BRs give their target something marked “Dianetics,” yet it’s Scientology Inc; that’s the “bait-and-switch.”

        • aquaclara

          Precisely.
          It’s ever so much clearer from this side of the cult walls isn’t it?

          • Fred G. Haseney

            Yes, that’s quite an observation you’ve made, aquaclara.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Angry Gay Pope, says they look like they work in a steakhouse!

          • Fred G. Haseney

            I can hear AGP: “Would you like that rare?”

    • Juicer77

      Good job. Amazing what presenting BOTH sides of the story can do.

  • I don’t know if this trumps ‘Diamond Sellers Weekly’ as the most obscure site to post a clam story but it comes close

    http://www.jobsnhire.com/articles/20191/20150323/tom-cruise-john-travolta-former-lovers-veteran-hollywood-actors-allegedly.htm

    pics (the one at the bottom is what the site’s home page looks like… guess the site editor was doing it for the lulz)

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Fuck, I somehow missed it in Diamond Sellers Weekly. Thirty years and bunkin up at the Dephi boys. Wow!

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    What a dick this guy Miscavige is. You know that I know the he don’t know what we know and I know you don’t know what he knows….. Welcome to Junior High with real life consequences from that asshole short kid that convinced you he would ruin you in gym class by claiming that he knows you jack off.

    • Snake Plissken

      It’s funny that you mention Junior High, that’s right about where Miscavige’s education ended

  • Mymy88

    IF I am perceiving this correctly, this is an interesting headline; meaning, make sure nothing bad happens to Gibney. LOL It shows everybody is just about on the same page and $cien has no where to go but further and further up a sh** creek. lol.

    http://snewsi.com/id/15111876281

  • cdub

    I had the most horrible nightmare after reading this “creepy” memo from Miscavige way early this morning. I don’t think I’ve dreamed about Scientology since way, way back so it was eerie. It was all the typical Scientology nonsense but up close and personal so I won’t recount it here. But after I woke up and reflected on it, I got to thinking there should be halloween costumes of LRH and DM as soul snatching vampires, representing Scientology I mean.

    • Snake Plissken

      Getting violated in your sleep by Scientology nightmare, kind of makes you want to jump out of bed and take a long shower

      • cdub

        Exactly.

    • F5

      • One Human

        Laughing maniacly aloud to myself!
        +1000

      • Miss Tia

        I vant to drain your bank!

    • One Human

      Farking rad thought share!!!

  • TonyOrtega

    Your proprietor is going to be on WBAI radio in a few minutes.

    • Science Doc

      Link?

    • aquaclara

      Good luck and have some fun. We’re always here.

      • TonyOrtega

        Taped a few days ago.

        • aquaclara

          Nice. I can’t wait for the book-hope you got that in. This has been a great year. And it’s only March.

    • Elen

      Break a leg & knock ‘m dead Tony! As you always do!

    • Science Doc

      You’re doing a great job.

    • outraged

      So exciting!
      What about WNYC? Fresh Air? Brian Lehrer?
      Has anyone approached you?

    • Elen

      Very nice job!

  • TonyOrtega
  • TonyOrtega
    • stillgrace2

      Awesome recounting of the whole Lisa McPherson story. Hit all the right points that people need to hear.

    • cdub

      Wonderful interview. Time spent digging deep into all aspects of Scientology from the past to the present. But what’s best, in my mind anyway, is the matter-of-fact, almost casual, contemporary way Tony comes across. It adds to the credibility of this story. Not to mention his detailed, in-depth knowledge of the subject.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      Oh thanx,thought I missed it.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Thank you!