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A perplexing tale about Bob Duggan, the richest Scientologist in the world

Gentle readers, we have an unusual and, we must say, rather mystifying story to tell you today. It’s about a successful businessman by the name of Robert W. Duggan. This illustration of Bob, who is a robust 70 years old, is inspired by an image from his personal website, which we encourage you to visit.

 
Bob_Duggan_illo

[Illustrations by Chad Essley]

 
Bob’s website has several different pages. We learn from them that as a kid from Berkeley and San Jose, Bob was an avid sportsman. He grew up loving to surf and play tennis, and he even once ran the Palo Alto marathon in 2 hours and 49 minutes, which, if you didn’t know, is seriously fast for an amateur. (We once ran a half-marathon and it took longer than that, we’re pretty sure.)

Bob studied economics at UC Santa Barbara in the class of 1966, and also studied business management for a couple of years at UCLA, taking a degree from neither. But while he was at UCSB, he met the woman who would become his wife, Patricia J. Hagerty, better known as Trish. At her Twitter page, Trish uses a photo of herself with a cheetah. Here’s our illustration of it.

 
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We’re not sure what the deal with the cheetah is, but Trish studied art at Santa Barbara and she’s known for her work in sculpture today. We encourage you to go through her online gallery, where you will find that she does hauntingly beautiful work in blue glass. We’ll take just a small snapshot of her gallery, purely for informational purposes…

 
TrishDugganArt

 
We think it’s fun that Trish plays with space alien motifs in her art. In 1975, she and Bob got involved in Scientology, and if you’ve seen a certain 2005 episode of South Park, you know that Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard had some really intriguing ideas about outer space visitors to the planet Earth.

Bob and Trish Duggan are very big fans of Mr. Hubbard, and they have been awarded repeatedly for being the most generous members of the Church of Scientology. In fact, they donate so much more to the church than anyone else, Scientology leader David Miscavige keeps making bigger and bigger trophies to recognize their gifts to the International Association of Scientologists (IAS)….

 
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In the magazine’s most recent issue, reporting on an event last fall, it was announced that the Duggans had reached a new IAS level of giving that had to be invented for them, called “Diamond Maximus with Honors.” Our sources, some of whom actually worked with Scientology’s charitable giving, tell us that in order to reach that level, the Duggans have donated something in the neighborhood of $50 million, more than double what Forbes magazine estimated last year.

It’s no wonder the Duggans are the only donors Miscavige poses with in Impact magazine photos each year — he doesn’t do that for anyone else, even the church members who have given more than $10 million. (Here, see for yourself.)

Also, the Duggans give a lot more than just to the IAS. They’ve also given huge amounts for some Scientology building projects. And at their websites, Bob and Trish make it clear that they give to other causes as well, which is only fair, because they are seriously loaded.

According to Forbes magazine, Bob Duggan is the 395th richest American, and the 1,164th richest person on the planet, worth $1.5 billion.

 
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How did a surfer from UC Santa Barbara end up so rich? Well, Bob’s been a risk-taking entrepreneur and savvy investor for decades, but there’s also a bittersweet and dramatic tale for how he and Trish ended up in the .001 percent of the world’s earners. In 1997, the Duggans lost a son to cancer, and five years later, Bob made an investment in a promising pharmaceutical concern called Pharmacyclics that was struggling to bring a cancer drug to market.

That drug failed, but Pharmacyclics then picked up another drug, Imbruvica, and Duggan took control of the company, becoming its CEO and placing a slate of his hand-picked directors in 2008.

“Imbruvica…turned out to be a potent treatment for chronic lymphocytic leukemia, shrinking tumors in 58 percent of patients failed by all other drugs, and mantle cell lymphoma, a rarer disease. Johnson & Johnson inked a $975 million deal to copromote Imbruvica in 2011, beating out other Big Pharmas, and Pharmacyclics’ stock has risen fortyfold…turning [Duggan’s] stake into a $1.4 billion fortune,” wrote Forbes magazine earlier this year.

After losing a child to cancer, the Duggans now have the chance to help countless others with a great new drug — and have managed to become super wealthy in the process.

Bob and Trish Duggan have been generous in other ways as well. We’ll explain what we mean by looking at yet another of Bob’s websites, which includes this portion we’ve snipped…

 
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As you can see from that list of biographical information, Bob and Trish have a very large family. In addition to a biological daughter, they have adopted six other children as their own, and gave them all names that begin with the letter “D.” Like Bob, they’re all sports fans, as explained on one of Bob’s websites

“Since moving to Palo Alto, he and all of his six adopted children are big fans of the San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, since they know that he is also adopted.”

So Bob and Trish have six adopted kids, and they live in Palo Alto and root for the 49ers. Hey, that’s great.

Except, that’s not entirely true.

Now we’re going to tell you about something that you can’t find on the websites of either Bob or Trish or Forbes magazine. And in order to tell this part of the story, we want to introduce you to a fellow named Charlie Mikich.

 
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This illustration of Charlie shows him with his youngest of two daughters. Charlie is not a wealthy person. He’s been through some tough times, scraping by and living a pretty uprooted life that’s taken him all around the country.

More than a decade ago, he hooked up with another uprooted person, a young woman he met on a long Greyhound bus ride to San Francisco. They moved in together, then kept moving. They got pregnant in Texas, and they had a son in Cut Bank, Montana in August 2001.

For the purposes of this story, we’ll refer to that little boy simply as “V.”

Charlie’s restless girlfriend left for Santa Barbara and then sent for him. By the time Charlie and his infant son got there, his girlfriend was homeless and pregnant by another man. (She had the boy, and we’ll refer to him — V’s half brother — as “T.”) Charlie tried to care for V on his own, but the county stepped in and placed the boy with foster parents who ended up adopting the boy.

Some ten years later, when Charlie had his first daughter, the state, concerned about Charlie’s history, tried to take the girl away. During testimony in the ensuing court battle, Charlie was asked about his son, V. In a court transcript Charlie supplied us, you can see his daughter is referred to as “A.M.” and his son as “V.D.”…

 
MikichTestimony

 
Charlie won that court battle, and has custody of both of his daughters today. But a decade earlier, he didn’t have an attorney, and he says he had little choice but to agree to let a wealthy local couple, Bob and Trish Duggan, adopt his son. They also adopted V’s half-brother, T.

Charlie says it was Trish Duggan he worked with, arranging the details of the adoption. Although Charlie says he didn’t like the idea, the Duggans changed the boy’s name to begin with a “D.” They also changed the name of V’s half-brother.

Charlie says that he last had contact with V when the boy was about two years old, and the last photo he received was when the boy was three. Since having his battle over his daughters, he now says that he regrets not fighting to hang onto his son, and is still interested in being a part of his life. But he hasn’t heard anything about V in years.

So Charlie was very surprised when we told him we had photos of V at 11 and 12 years old. And in this next section we’ll tell you why we had them.

 
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These folks are Shelley Ashurst, her husband Andrew Jackson, and their daughter Dominique Sundelowitz. They live in Johannesburg, South Africa, and until recently they were very active longtime Scientologists.

Shelley explained to us that in 2012, her husband Andrew was involved with a church project that was having some trouble. Andrew was a subcontractor on a project to renovate a building in Pretoria to become Scientology’s next “Ideal Org.”

The Ideal Org program is the brainchild of Scientology leader David Miscavige who, in 2002, began pushing for ordinary churches — called “orgs,” short for organizations — to be replaced by more elaborate facilities, often in renovated historic buildings. Funding for these projects is the responsibility of local church members, who often struggle to raise the millions of dollars it takes to create an Ideal Org. In various cities — Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Philadelphia — Ideal Org projects are stalled as local fundraising has been inadequate to complete renovations.

Don’t take our word for it. Here’s a recent story that appeared in the Boston Globe about the difficulty Scientology has had with the Ideal Org project in that city.

In the summer of 2012, a similar situation had stalled construction in Pretoria, and Andrew says he was told by the project manager that the church was in default, short millions of dollars (US) to get the work completed.

Then, in October of that year, a man from the local area was sent to the United States in the hopes of finding a solution to the problem. That man was Robin Hogarth.

 
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Robin had a website (still archived) where he described his work as a music producer. In 2007 and 2008, albums by the Soweto Gospel Choir that Robin produced won the Grammy Award for Best Traditional World Music Album. Also, Robin is married to Shelley Ashurst’s sister, Carol.

Robin made his trip to the US looking for help with Scientology’s South Africa construction projects in October 2012 and returned around the middle of November, according to notes that Carol put on Facebook. At that time, Shelley and Andrew say, Robin gave the local Scientologists a briefing.

“He said people in America love South Africa. And there was one guy who could literally write one check to pay for all of South Africa’s ideal orgs,” Andrew tells us.

As 2012 ended, however, the Pretoria project still seemed to be dead in the water. “They closed down over Christmas because they had no money,” Andrew says.

And then, suddenly, there was plenty of money. “The arrears were taken care of suddenly,” Andrew says. After the first of the year there was a mad dash to get things done. After no progress for months, now they had just weeks to prepare the place for its February 23, 2013 grand opening.

“We were working up until half an hour before the ribbon cutting,” Andrew says.

Suddenly flush with cash, the Pretoria Ideal Org got done on time. And it wasn’t just Scientology that was going through major changes. Around the same time the Pretoria Ideal Org was finished, Shelley Ashurst learned that her sister Carol and her husband Robin had a new member of their household.

“The next thing I heard was that Carol and Robin had acquired a Duggan child,” Shelley says. “Carol had never had children. She doesn’t like children. Their lifestyle was utterly unsuited for this. They’re 65 and 54 and are never home.”

Shelley and her family say that Carol and Robin had somehow become the caretaker for one of the adopted children of Bob and Trish Duggan.

Shelley first met the boy herself in March. And then in May, on Mothers Day 2013 in South Africa — which is celebrated the same day it is in the US — Shelley visited with her sister at the Johannesburg zoo for a concert in the park. Shelley took several photographs that day, which she sent us. We’ll show you one of them, which features her sister Carol and the boy, whose face we’ve obscured.

 
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We sent copies of the unredacted photos to Charlie Mikich, who positively identified the child as V, his son who was born in August 2001. Charlie was stunned, telling us he had no idea that his son was in South Africa.

Shelley and Andrew and other South African Scientologists tell us that in fact, two of the boys adopted by the Duggans were sent to South African families early in 2013. (V’s half-brother, T, was not one of them. He is still with the Duggans as far as we know.)

Shelley also says that Carol needed a lot of help taking care of the boy, and Shelley’s daughter Dominique, and her daughter-in-law Kirsty Viljoen, were asked to help out. We talked to both young women, who described what it was like to care for V. Dominique says she was paid 10,000 Rand (about $1,000) a week by her aunt, which is extremely high for such work in South Africa.

But Robin and Carol seemed to have plenty of money. In May 2013, Robin went to Clearwater, Florida and finally completed OT 7, the difficult and expensive Scientology level that can take some people years to finish. Carol was thrilled and planned to take a whirlwind trip with him, as she explained on Facebook…

 
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Then, just two months later in July 2013, Robin completed another expensive Scientology course, this time finishing “OT 8,” the highest level of achievement, which is delivered on the church’s private cruise ship, the Freewinds.

 
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Meanwhile, in South Africa the church continues to push for new Ideal Orgs, and in a recent church flier which made its way to us, we noticed that there was no doubt who is considered the most generous of South Africa’s donors — so generous, they alone are given the status “Legend”…

 
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For some reason, the Duggans have chosen to pour money into South Africa’s projects while Ideal Org renovations in their home state of California (particularly in Mountain View and the San Fernando Valley) have struggled to complete funding, along with many other locations in the United States.

While the Duggans prop up Scientology in South Africa, and while two of their adopted sons are being cared for by families there, Shelley and Andrew and their children have given up on the church. They split with Scientology, and it was one of the things that created a rift between Shelley and her sister, Carol.

And so Shelley is speaking out today, confirming that her sister is caring for the Duggan child.

At one point, Shelley says, she criticized her sister about the arrangement.

“Carol went ballistic,” Shelley says.

Soon after that, on March 16, 2014, Carol posted this on Facebook…

 
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“This is an astonishing story — but there is more to be revealed which you can expect will now be forthcoming,” says former Scientology spokesman and legal affairs executive Mike Rinder, who left the organization in 2007. “The church obviously thought this wasn’t going to get out — the people they selected to participate were all ‘high on the Bridge,’ long term Scientologists with extensive familial connections. They believed this would keep them quiet, and it probably would have except some of these people started wondering what the hell was going on with the constant demands for money, got a bit uppity, and then were declared suppressive [Scientology’s version of excommunication]. I said at the time they were kicked out it would backfire on the church, and this revelation is further proof that Scientology has lost control over its South African ’empire’.”

We sent email messages to Robin and Carol Hogarth and received no replies. When we called Robin Hogarth yesterday, he acknowledged that he’d received our email but declined to talk to us. We called and emailed Pharmacyclics and gave a detailed explanation for why we wanted a statement, but received no answer. We emailed Bob and Trish Duggan directly, and heard nothing back.

This Friday night, Scientology will once again hold its annual IAS gala in East Grinstead, England, and church leader David Miscavige will give his customary two-hour presentation about all of the past year’s accomplishments by the organization’s various front groups. On another night over the weekend, the year’s big donors will be recognized.

The Duggans may be in town to receive another large trophy from Miscavige. If a British journalist manages to catch up with them, we would sure appreciate it if they would ask the Duggans about the coincidental timing of their largesse to the Scientology churches in South Africa and their adopted sons going there to stay.

We checked in with Charlie Mikich this week, to see if he had heard anything new from the Duggans. He hadn’t. But he told us that he’s started a new chapter of his life in Key West, and he’s still anxious to get more news of his son.

“I think if there’s any way I could get him back to where he belongs, I would,” he told us.

For now, Charlie’s son is living with Carol and Robin Hogarth and are home after some recent travel.

 

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on October 15, 2014 at 07:00

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  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    There are over a billion reasons to kick these clams off CL.
    Disturb the perturbed.
    Exile them to the exurbs.

    4-day list:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    Weds. list:
    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-116#post-2490177
    And update #1:
    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-116#post-2490243

    Hallowe’en early? Riches to rags?
    Scary like the rattling of a cartload of old dry bones on a cobbled street.

  • kemist

    There is something I don’t understand…

    Why adopt a child if it is to dump them in a foreign country ?

    Makes me wonder if there is not something fishy with the adoption and they shipped them off to get rid of the “evidence” so to speak…

    • Science Doc

      Beyond the reach of Child Protective Services? Abuse? Rebellion against Scientology? Smoking pot? Out of sight, out of mind?

      • kemist

        I just read Todd’s post below about people who buy wild animals, and another hypothesis came to me…

        Perhaps they like them when they’re cute babies, but not so much when they start growing up and show personality ?

        • Robert Eckert

          Exactamundo.

        • Science Doc

          Teenagers are hard, both boys and girls, but some people find boys tougher. Dad was in late 60s at the time, very busy and very self obsessed. Not the type to go on camping trips and coach little league. Junior leaves a joint in his jeans pocket and the balloon goes up. Both sides are spilling the beans in sec checks, Scientology finds their ruins and out comes the checkbook.

  • Bob

    This is a clear case again of the cherchs SUPER whales having trouble with two of there under age kids who probably are troublemakers at school and hate Scientology.
    Not acceptable. So to the rescue. Davey McDoRightWrong! Just banish the kids to South Africa. All hushhush and no one will ever find out that the richest clams on Hubbard Beach have two non-conforming kids.
    The Sciebot solution for recalcitrant people. Get rid of them quietly and untraceably.
    Thanks to the anti-clam network, not so quiet.

    Scientology for the most part produces self centered despicable humans who think they are gods.
    Tony your sense of Irony has risen to a new high. Great journalism.

    • Missionary Kid
      • Bob

        I think you should submit to Guinness world records for most nicknames.

    • vistaril_LOL

      I believe many COS kids will be telling their parents they believe in idiotic shit…with varying degrees of directness.

      • Bob

        If they are exposed to the outside world they will.

    • vistaril_LOL

      Twoould be great if the kids talk….

    • aquaclara

      I think they might have been perfectly normal kids….who grew and began to express their own ideas.
      But being sent and given away. Too awful for words.

      I hope one of the duggan kids pops in here one day, sees all the big hugs we are sending, and then calls Tony.

      • Bob

        Yes, it’s hard for kids when they are sequestered and their parents are Sciebots with all that entails.

  • nottrue

    Something from Angry Gay Pope…….http://youtu.be/AZM_T4dQ5-g

    • Science Doc

      I think that is the first evidence I’ve seen that the Sea Org takeover has been a disaster.

      • vistaril_LOL

        “The jokes over people, turn off the lights lock the doors , put away your pretend navy uniforms and go back to your loved ones…”

    • vistaril_LOL

      This is a thing of beauty. kudos mr pope…I will send ya some $

    • Frodis73

      Great music choice he made.

    • aquaclara

      Fabulous job, AGP. Thanks.

  • Sir_Real

    Perhaps the Duggans were afraid their adopted boy was turning into something quite unsuitable and inconvenient for their lavish, privileged clam-whale lifestyle: *refresh*

  • stillgrace2

    Here’s a spun and spiffed-up excerpt from Bob Duggan’s “Philanthropist” page: (F5)
    I particularly enjoyed the “non-profit” part.

    • vistaril_LOL

      ..and who dey? and can he be linked to the NarCON on shitfest

      ???

      • stillgrace2

        I don’t know who they are, either. All the other paragraphs on his “Philanthropist” page plainly point to scientology. It has to be Narconon, right? But who could recognize it from that description?

        • vistaril_LOL

          Hope someone out

          there can connect the links. This is more media worthy than some rich old fart boinking a lap dancer..this is bat-shit crazy…..

          but we are used to that here….batshit overload….

          • stillgrace2

            It’s possible Bob Duggan was told by Miscavige and associates that narconon is “non-profit” in order to score a big donation … so Bob put it on his website. Maybe he still believes it.

            • Vaquera

              Narconon-profit

        • Observer

          Us. That blurb is riddled with acceptable truth.

          • stillgrace2

            It has a sherman-esque quality to it and while reading it, I heard miscavige’s “straight-up-and-vertical” voice.

          • Vaquera

            Such as: The blurb states 100 locations. The Narc-y-non sites lists approx 47. It must be truth because it’s a lie.

            • lucille austero

              Approximately 47. Uh huh.

            • Observer

              And that it’s “the world’s most successful.”

    • well i guess screaming at an ashtray could be considered ‘all-natural’….

    • Observer

      Gee, why doesn’t he name the “non-profit rehabilitation program” which is currently being simultaneously sued into oblivion and thrown under the bus by the cherch which spawned it?

    • Drat

      If it is so successful, he should name it. No doubt others would want to know for reference.

    • thetastic

      I couldn’t decide if that was my favorite part, or if it was the part where he talks about the company where he is a CEO and Trish was an administrative assistant. Hee!

      Edited for clarity.

  • Anonymous

    Several recent threads and external conversations (plus way too much time on related topical blogs) have led me to this distilled observation:

    “Scientology is an excellent reminder to ex’s that one can be both completely certain and utterly foolish at exactly the same time.”

    This is a useful bit of wisdom to use as a filter when examining other unrelated circumstances in later life.

    • richelieu jr

      Nicely done, Anon. However, it is my experience that is ESPECIALLY when we are completely certain that we are likely to be utterly foolish.

      Wisdom doesn’t deal in absolutes, by and large.

      • daytoncapri

        completely certain ==> utterly foolish. Yep, happened with me.

    • Robert Eckert

      “often in error, but never in doubt”

      • Anonymous

        One of the all time classic quips…the source of which seems to be lost to history.

        In the rephrased instance I used above the goal was to turn Hubbard’s thoughts back on themselves in a manner that would fit into Scientology nomenclature.

        You reminded me again that virtually nothing in Scientology is new…even it’s criticism.

        • Robert Eckert

          The first person cited as saying this is Ivy Baker Priest, who became the first woman to serve as Treasurer and therefore got her signature on all US money (Eisenhower administration). Asked if she thought she’d ever see the day when a woman got her PICTURE on the money, she said, “We women don’t care too much about getting our pictures on money as long as we can get our hands on it”

    • Once_Born

      That’s why we need a variety of friends. They provide you with an external perspective – something that you cannot obtain from introspection. It’s also why organisations like Scientology are so controlling – to prevent you from encountering another viewpoint.

      • Anonymous

        Excellent observation.

      • arcinva

        Amen. A good friend isn’t a great friend unless they’re willing to give you a loving smack upon the head or look you in the eyes and tell you that you’re dumb when necessary.

  • Jimmy3

    http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/CarolFBMar162014x.jpg

    She’s talking about the other Duggan boy, right? Or am I reading too far into that?

    • Tony Ortega

      She’s talking about V, the boy who lives with her.

      • Jimmy3

        I meant the shot she takes at “some of the other disastrous adopted adults I’ve had the misfortune…”

        The Shelley lady indicated that Carol was very upset… I thought she might be referring to specific people there. Knowing they’d read it. But I’m probably reading too far into that. I’m done reading for a while.

        • stillgrace2

          She does mention “heartache, stress, and pain” and how proud she is of the “good job we’re doing”. I think she’s just bragging … one of those people that doesn’t mind suffering in silence as long as everyone else knows about it and appreciates their pain.

          • Observer

            Such a good little martyr.

          • vistaril_LOL

            hate those types who treat helping as a project to boast about ……

          • TheRupture

            There are so many red flags in those few sentences that ordinarily it might be enough to at least have child welfare stop by for a little surprise visit.

            • Observer

              I wonder if the South African authorities are even aware they’ve got the kid. Dollars to donuts he’s not enrolled in a public school.

            • Captain Howdy

              South Africa is considered one of the most dangerous countries in the world. Stuff like this is the least of their worries.

            • stillgrace2

              I once had a man from South Africa in one of my classes. I don’t remember how it came up but during a break, he described the elaborate security system he had in South Africa outside and inside his home. The reason he gave for it was that he feared his children would be snatched and harvested for their organs. He was serious. I was shocked,

            • Captain Howdy

              I would feel safer free driving with Great Whites in False Bay then walking the streets of Joburg from what I’ve read about it.

            • Jimmy3

              A friend who was born there won’t ever shut up about how great Cape Town is, but swears he won’t even visit family anywhere else in the country anymore. He’s always bitching about squatters, too. He claims people just set up fencing on people’s land and camp out there, and no one can do anything about it. He’s been known to exaggerate quite a bit, though.

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s turned into Zimbabwe 2.0 thanks to the corrupt incompetency of the ANC. My mother-in- law use to work with this women Elisabeth Kübler-Ross who was this sorta famous do-gooder and she went to SA to teach some seminars and she said the Minister of Health had commercials on TV selling her home cure for AIDS!

            • Jimmy3

              Wow. Does it work?

            • Captain Howdy

              Like a charm.

            • stillgrace2

              That’s the five-stages-of-grief lady!

            • Captain Howdy

              Yeah

            • Vaquera

              Now awaiting the 2.0 Ebola version.

            • Captain Howdy

              It’s already here, baby! This isn’t your older brother or sister’s Ebola. This shit has and is mutating.

            • TheRupture

              I just saw Larry Byrnes page and he pasted up a video selling Natural Cures for Ebola. This is the Hogarth’s friend. I typed fiend. Shoudn’t have corrected it. And on Carol’s page, she posted a vid for cure of diabetes using okra.

              My neck’s already stiffening up from shaking my head today.

            • Captain Howdy

              Every time I see Horgarth’s I read it as Hogwarts.

            • TheRupture

              Here I was feeling weird because I kept thinking of Hagar the Horrible. Hogwarts is better.

              http://i.imgur.com/iFOBxZj.jpg?1

            • stillgrace2

              I see Hogarth, the kid in The Iron Giant.

            • Robert Eckert
            • Sid

              If Larry Byrnes posted something on Ebola then for sure it was man made in the Bohemian Grove by the Bilderberg Group and the Psychs, and financed by the evil bankers with money smuggled into the country from Kenya by Barack Obama.

            • If okra could cure diabetes, the American South would be a diabetes-free zone.

            • stillgrace2

              Hah! You got me again … I ended up hearsaying “Great Whites in False Bay” and found a video on you-tube that was amazing … although these sharks couldn’t drive … yuk, yuk.

            • Captain Howdy
            • stillgrace2

              OK, now I have officially seen everything.

            • Captain Howdy

              People have been free diving with Great Whites for over 20 years now and no one has ever been hurt.

            • TheRupture

              Do the blondes feed the whales brunettes first?

            • villagedianne

              It is not safe in SA. That is why Oscar Pistorius was not convicted.

            • Captain Howdy

              That’s a bingo!

            • Jimmy3

              He was convicted.

            • villagedianne

              Oops! Convicted of a lesser charge than murder, that is.

            • Jimmy3

              Yes. They’re in the sentencing blade of the trial. He faces up to 15 years.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              ….or–a “recommended” 3 (three) years “house arrest” with unlimited opportunities to pursue athletics…AND 16 (sixteen) HOURS per month of “community service” (Youtube, SABC) 🙁

            • Drat

              People get sent to the RPF for far less. And the RPF is nothing like 16 hours community service per month. Justice seems a finnicky affair.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            This is so true.

        • Observer

          The other dumped Duggan boy is still a kid.

          • Jimmy3

            Could be like a Big kid, though. Like Tom Hanks Duggan. Only it’d have to be Dom Danks Duggan.

          • Vaquera

            There are no kids in $ci-la-la-land, only adults in young meat bodies.

    • Joe Hurtado

      It almost sounds like she’s biting the hand that fed her. She got a “disastrous” boy from the Duggans, eh? The child may have psychological and emotional issues that will never be addressed properly in a family of cultists. Hopefully he doesn’t have unaddressed medical issues like Jett Travolta (it was the carpet-cleaning chemicals, dammit!)

    • Vaquera

      Reading past the “spoilt rich boy” first sentence and through to the end of her comment, though Carol effluviously (!!!) pats herself on the back, she does praise the boy as now being a “loving, caring, considerate, thinking, great sense of humor small person.” Sounds like she and her hubby now like their charge and are proud of him and themselves, in which case, we Bunkerites would consider V another successful brain washed victim.

    • aquaclara

      “using the right tools.” this is a truly frightening phrase.

  • vistaril_LOL

    Is the SA media more gung-ho and less wary of reporting on relgious nutbaggery than the US?

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    Take these two asshole kids off my hands and I’ll fund your damned ideal org that you losers can’t seem to finish.

    • Espiando

      Sounds like a win-win to me. But I tend to hate children.

      • Anonymous

        W. C. Fields is famous for the line:

        “I love children…as long as they are properly cooked.”

        (Not advocating here, merely relaying something some night find humorous.)

  • Joe Hurtado

    What a twisted, twisted tale. I can’t imagine that this is legal. FFS, animal rescue and adoption organizations will take your new pet away if you don’t follow their stipulations to a T (ask Ellen DeGeneres), yet these people farm their unwanted adopted kids out to strangers in another country. Their Palo Alto household must be insane.

    And what is it with Carol Hogarth’s need to display her norks so prominently? She’s in nipple slip territory there.

  • Suppressive Tomato

    When your trophy is taller than COB, you know you’re Platinum Meritorious.

    • TheRupture

      So That’s what the Scientology bluebird trailers are for – trophy storage and mobile living for short people.

      http://i.imgur.com/PFjutUK.jpg?2

      • Captain Howdy

        I’d be happy to live there. I could change my name to Duggan Rockford and start my own private investigator agency.

        • TheRupture

          Funny. Will you investigate the Scientology investigators? That sounds like fun. Check video batteries before you go.

        • DrGreatCham

          You could even have a weaselly, cowardly con man pester you for help all the time:

          “Who’s going to help little Davelo?”

      • Jgg2012

        That appears to be their busiest org.

        • lucille austero

          Snort!

        • TheRupture

          Thanks. Laughs needed today.

  • TheRupture

    For those of you who don’t get claustrophobic and actually enjoy spelunking, Bob Duggan’s VP at Pharmacyclics is South African Scientologist Rainer Erdtmann, OT8. Some of Rainer’s family I think are part of the group that got declared, but frankly I’m too dizzy at this point to look down any further. Sometime in Nov or Dec 2013 Rainer must have needed some spare change or a trophy or something. “The shares were sold at an average price of $107.77, for a total transaction of $5,819,580.00”.

    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/robert-duggan.89897/page-3

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/archive/index.php/t-25831.html?s=d954719af2c25c9b451c2d2a7069f4c2

  • Ruby

    Did anyone notice that Carol’s necklace in the last picture is that of the Scientology double triangle symbol? Or were you all too busy looking at the boobys?

    • HappypantsDance

      I was too busy looking AWAY from the boobies 🙂

      • Joe Hurtado

        I kept trying to look away, but as with any train wreck, my attention kept getting drawn back. I’m mystified how a woman of her age and size goes without a bra. Judging from the tan line, she does it often.

        • HappypantsDance

          Yes, I did notice that about the tan line. The bralessness, the low-cut and ill-fitting dress, the coarse over-bleached hair…she’s proof that money doesn’t overcome innate trashiness.

          • If she was a natural blond at one time, exposure to sunlight/tanning light is like meat and potatoes for melanoma.

        • Vaquera

          I am north of 50 and, honestly, I would go foundation garment-less except for the fact that my progeny would be mortified. To paraphrase Cosmo Kramer, “I’d be out there baby and lovin’ every minute of it!” Just sayin’.

          • Vaquera

            But I would be more modest.

          • lucille austero

            I am around this general area of age as well, but I’ve always been a “little” sister, so mine look just like they did when I was 16. Ha.

          • Joe Hurtado

            I’m 50 and rather small-chested. I probably don’t need to wear a bra, but I think I’d feel naked if I didn’t.

            • Vaquera

              From your screen name, I assumed you were of the xy variety, therefore being small-chested and probably not needing to wear a “Bro.” (Sorry, I seem to be in a Seinfeld state of mind today.)

            • lucille austero

              A mansierre.

            • TheRupture

              A happy episode.

            • Draco

              Good for you….er…Joe…

    • PRenaud

      Their starring at me to see if I’m looking… not interested.

    • Vaquera

      47 x 100% bosom focused. Now mopping up my keyboard. Crack me up, Ruby.

    • Chee Chalker

      Maybe the Duggans will pay for a breast lift and some veneers

      • lucille austero

        And Nutrisystem…

  • In related news about how some of these people make their money, Lockheed is claiming that they have developed fusion power in small containers, they are going door-to-door looking for rubes to hand them R&D money based on fraudulent claims.

    Had they actually developed what they claim they would have sought a technology investor agency quietly, without press releases and without public relations bullshit, they would be holding their intellectual property, revenues, and patents closely rather than marking them out like Girl Scout cookies.

    The whole world is awash with parasites taking money from people, not earning it, squeaking by evading law enforcement because dimbulbs honestly think they’re not being swindled and don’t file criminal charges.

    Here we have Lockheed trying to rook money out of people with no clue about science, and none of the crooks will ever be charged with their crime.

    • As W.C. Fields allegedly said, “You can’t cheat an honest man.”

      All I know is that if I had POC for conventional fusion, the kind that powers the Sun, I’d be approaching investors with plans for fusion-powered drones to explore the asteroid belt and look for precious and useful heavy elements. You mighty even have automated mining, with a control station a light-second away to direct things but be safe in case everything goes blewly.

    • Science Doc

      We’re probably a bit OT on this, but I have to agree with you. The representation is very troubling to me. I don’t for a minute think they will produce a useful source of electrical energy. Tritium is not to be messed with, and high energy fusion neutrons will ruin your day and cause a world of metallurgical problems. Lockheed’s stock went down today, with most others. If the market believed Lockheed had a winner, even for Naval propulsion alone, the stock would go sky high.

  • Today’s post changed theme
    Of haiku I wrote last night
    I’ll post them later.
    #haiku #scientology #ReadLink http://tonyortega.org/2014/10/15/a-perplexing-tale-about-bob-duggan-the-richest-scientologist-in-the-world/

    [this was basically a statement DodoTheLaser said]
    Scientology
    Is a spiritual cancer
    Can you find a cure?
    @Pharmacyclics #haiku #scientologyAgainstPharmaceuticalsUnlessCEOCutsThemChecks

    You’re passing the buck
    Parents PARENT and don’t ship
    kids off to others
    #haiku @Trish_duggan @RobertWDuggan #Scientology

    Buy kids, get bored, BYE!!
    Did you learn Sci teachings won’t
    help you with children?
    #haiku @Trish_duggan @RobertWDuggan #ScientologyFails

    Known as a Scieno
    Now Bob Duggan is known for
    sending two kids off!
    #haiku #scientology @RobertWDuggan #KidsBeGone #TwoShamefulThings

    You caused your cancer
    is how Scis think, yet they’ll take
    cash from cancer drugs.
    #haiku #scientology #DrugsAreBadMMMKay #AuditForCancer

    Feeling unwanted,
    abandonment issues, what
    Duggan’s caused two kids
    #haiku @Trish_duggan @RobertWDuggan #WhyYouGetRidOfTwoKids

    Photo with cheetah,
    photo with COB, one has spots
    and the other robs.
    #haiku @Trish_duggan #CheetahHasSpotsIfYouDidnotKnowTrish

    Dumped Duggan kids
    Sent off to South Africa
    One with kid hater
    #haiku #DugganKids #DislikeKidsNoProblemTakeOurs #WhatIsWrongWithThesePeople

    Are the other kids
    threatened with being shipped off
    if they cause problems?
    #haiku #DugganKids #Anxiety #CPSOnLineOnePlease

    Someone should go check
    on the four kids they still have
    What is going on?!
    #haiku #DugganKids #SeriouslyThisIsMessedUp #ThinkOfTheChildren

    • Frodis73

      Tia, I love that you tweeted them personally &his company in a few if these.
      ps. Oh my, Ernest Angley’s true color’s have been exposed! LOL.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He owns a classic, 747SP.(Special performance) 747sp.com

      • yeah, why NOT tweet them personally?? 😀

        unbelievable the ABJ is actually covering something in depth like that….and gee, we were just talking about ernest! i believe all that crap too!! a shame the ABJ can’t/won’t write about what’s going on in city hall a few blocks away from them though!!

        the parallels with ernest’s cult and $cis are striking aren’t they? though they all seem to follow the same pattern don’t they? isolate, reprogram, keep people away from ‘truth telling machines (tvs, internet)’, control every aspect of their lives….and instead of physically abuse them, ernest has the sexual abuse going on….

        • Frodis73

          Yep, can’t say I was all that surprised. The abortion thing was a head scratcher tho! Freaking religious nuts, all of ’em. Agree about ABJ. Both them and the PD have never been bastions of great journalism, but the past 10 years has been especially hard.

          • well the PD has a reporter interested in my research when i’m done so points to them for that….the PD also got put in check when their county got busted for corruption and they had sort of ignored it, they have done better since….now the ABJ flat out refuses to do anything to piss off the mayor or his buddies, in my opinion, they are complicit in what is going on because they know and they are keeping their mouths shut….

        • Frodis73

          Speaking of media…omg, they broke the ebola/Cleve connection like almost 4 hours ago. It’s been wall to wall coverage on all 4 local channels. So unwanted or needed. I’m very annoyed.

          • ze moo

            When in danger, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout ….and then run into a wall. It’ll will feel so good when you stop.

          • yep, i look at 19’s website and it’s ALL the stories! she was in akron! OMFG! PANIC! her family has members who work at kent state so they’re getting in on the act and saying they’ve been told to stay home for 3 weeks (i hope they’re being paid!)….there’s now a summit county ebola hotline….can we say TOTAL OVERHYPE?! and they wonder why people get so panicked and worked up over things? this is exhibit A right here!

            • Eclipse-girl

              The thing is the nurse traveled to Ohio before the first nurse in Dallas came down with Ebola.

              I really wish people who are fear mongering would LEARN something about virus in general, and this virus in particular

            • now you cannot be bringing logic in the midst of NE Ohio media doing a master class in fear mongering!!!

            • Eclipse-girl

              Its what I do. ;- )

            • you do it well! 🙂

            • Frodis73

              Lol, master class. Good one.

            • Frodis73

              I know. I heard a ‘news reader’ proudly say “We are now going into our 6th hour of breaking news…”. WTH? They also keep saying, there really is no need to worry, we are not trying to scare you, yet we are going to take over programing for as long as we can. Lol. They should all be *ashamed* for dragging out this non story. Mayor P (can’t spell it w/out looking it up & I’m lazy!) kinda called ’em out a bit on it I did see.

            • of course plusquellic got in on that act!! he’ll probably figure a way to justify another trip to germany or amsterdam over this too!! i wish his travel sheets were pdf, you wouldn’t believe the trips they take!!!

              yeah, we don’t want to alarm you but we’re going to pre-empt ALL regularly scheduled programing and cover this NON-stop even if it’s us just saying over and over “don’t worry” uh huh…..fear mongering asshats….

      • Observer

        I always found him creepy, but this …!

        “You’re not a medical doctor,” a reporter said during the interview. “Why would you examine men’s genitals before and after vasectomies?”

        “The swelling,” Angley responded. “Some of them would swell awful. I didn’t touch them, I just prayed for them. And then, I’d get success for most of them. And if they didn’t go down, I would insist they go to the doctor. And guys don’t like to go to doctors, I’ll tell you. …

        “One of them, one of his testicles fell out. And he didn’t know what to do.”

        • Sibs

          (dunks head into mental eye bleach)

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I also like his examples where his looniness really spews out. A must read.

        • Frodis73

          I can’t believe he admitted to that either. LOL, what a crazy old fool. He can’t hang around too much longer. He gives me the major creeps w that hair piece and those eyes. Now this. Hey guys, NE Ohio is loads of fun! We don’t have many sci’s but we have other fun stuff.

        • makes me wonder if they had a vasectomy at a doctor’s office or if ernest has a snip joint in the back of his ‘cathedral buffet’!

          just goes to show the level of control he has over these people….you have a testicle fall out and you don’t call 911 or go to the ER, oh no, you ask ernest….

      • Joe Hurtado

        I had no idea why you brought up Ernest Angley. How did I miss this story!

  • I’m rich and I turned out just fine.

    • lucille austero

      For a douche, yes.

      • Don’t make me angry!

        • Vaquera

          Tommy to the D, now that you’ve been $ci-lobotomized and off-loaded to Dallas, I assumed your powers of anger were toneless.

          • My nannies tell me I’m perfect, your wog insults aren’t enough to overcome my totally-on-source tranquilizers David ordered me to take.

            • Vaquera

              Will you be KSW-ing at Saint Hill this weekend, looking red-faced and psycho-important? If so, can I get a selfie with you?

    • Captain Howdy

      You didn’t turn out fine, Tommy, you’re just “turned-out” by Cobholio.

  • Chee Chalker

    Interesting how Miscavige has aged. Bob looks better at 70 than Miscaberace (Miscavige + Liberace = Miscaberace) looks at 54 (or whatever age he is).

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Scientology- “science of the mind.” Right. That’s why the church aided and abetted the expulsion of two adopted children, already at risk for abandonment issues, from the only home they have known… And, if one of them, V, didn’t get the message how unwanted he was from the expulsion, his nose gets rubbed in the fact that his biological half-brother, not he, was kept by his adoptive family. The remarks of his “new mom” demonstrate that he was sent there for reprogramming. That poor child must believe that if he doesn’t behave and pretend to be happy 100% of the time, he will be expelled once again.

  • Joe Hurtado

    This story has all of the elements to make a scandalous, eye-popping Daily Mail or National Enquirer article: dim, misguided, and callous rich people, a child taken from a poor father, U.S. citizens moved to a foreign country against their will, a child who will not receive proper psychological and medical care, child-trafficking (they sold the kids, no?), a dying space alien cult, and a near nipple slip. As much as I dislike the DM, I do hope they pick up the story. They have the most hits of any newspaper website, don’t they?

    • vistaril_LOL

      yes they do.

  • Truthiwant

    Tony, erroneously, pixelated the wrong bit of that image. I’ve corrected it for him now…

    • Observer

      THANK YOU!

      • Truthiwant

        It’s a pleasure!
        I’m thinking of using the original as my desk top image. Would you like a copy?

        • Observer

          Um … thanks, but no thanks!

          • Truthiwant

            Are you sure? It really isn’t so bad…

            • Observer

              If I ever want to look at a pair of middle-aged mammaries, I’ve got a set of my own which are in better shape.

            • Frodis73

              Rotf!

            • Jimmy3

              We can always count on New Folder (2) to be there for us.

            • Ah, Jeez!

            • FromPolandWithLove

              Trutiwant You need to see Your Ethics Officer:)

            • Truthiwant

              I’ll confess my Desk Top image to them tomorrow!
              In the mean time, I’m going to hit the sack!
              Good night to you!

            • This is why I love the bunker, because of the other crazy bastards that post here 🙂

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Can we temporarily bring back the downvote?

      • richelieu jr

        The ANTI-FAPPENING!

    • TheRupture

      Would you mind pixelating the Hubbard dentistry work too? Thank you so much.
      (btw, I saw this picture on Carol’s page and the body language of this poor (?) child was cringeworthy. )

    • Captain Howdy

      Thank You..I can now adhere to rule 34 again.

    • richelieu jr

      Look at the guy’s smile now!

      The look that can only mean- Look, guys! My wife has a Rubik’s Boob!

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Sending You big thanks from Poland

      • Truthiwant

        …and I’m off to bed! 12.30
        Good night to you!

  • Victoria Pandora

    I don’t get the problem with V seeing his dad. The Duggans are so rich, it would be am easy thing for them to arrange. You know dam well it is simply because dad is a lowly wog…
    The boy would be better off establishing any relationship he could have with his real father.

    Being a fatherless child, and I am a female, I will say I searched for him for the whole of my adult life. I finally found him, but only in death records.

    Step up Duggans, and let the boy meet his dad and grasp the reality of truth.

  • Science Doc

    Mike Rinder put up a routine post, and said he is finalizing something far more important. Bet Davy will be hitting the scotch early and hard today.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      My suggestion for DM’s entourage is to make sure that supplies of rubber pants are sufficient 😉

  • Sid

    Poor V. Way to make a kid feel wanted on either continent. Duggans and Hogarths don’t seem to express the love a kid should get from parents. Hogarths won’t leave the church anytime soon and give up the gravy train. Talk about getting paid by big pharma. At least V’s dad expresses a real desire to see his son.

  • Vaquera

    Besides the October 19th Saint Hill charity event, the Jives Aces are performing at the IAS After Party this Friday, October 17th. If you are claustrophobic, no need to worry, only one person, Alex Douglas of East Grinstead, has rsvp’ed yes on the event’s FB page.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/1632856576969125/?ref=22&source=1
    Or…refresh.

    • MaxSpaceman

      you posted the story downthread of Tony’s which has a video of the Trish & Bob’s place at the beach. A still-

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I’m not sure of, V’s needs were more than the average child. Sounds to me like, Trish didn’t want to be seen with him. I know the Bush family has am autistic child that they actually airbrush out of the extended family photo. If you believe, Kitty Kelly anyway. V, also could just have been a normal boy and Trish figured out she suddenly had too many.

    • Jimmy3

      He’s not really autistic, that’s a myth. They airbrushed him out of some photos because his drinking buddies used to glue propeller hats on him after he’d pass out.
      http://youtu.be/rToKEnySb7s

    • ze moo

      IMHO, the kids just didn’t fit in with mommy and daddies lifestyle. Sort of the kind of person who takes a dog to the shelter when they are no longer cute puppies. They appear to be a bit young for the Sea Arghhh and the Duggans don’t want anyone to see their problems, so off to South Africa they go. It is hard enough to be an adopted kid, an adopted kid who is shuttled off to another country. has it extra hard. How much ‘auditing’ will be needed to ‘cure’ that?

  • Stacy

    I just noticed. On Duggan’s Asset Management Team bio, he lists his favorite name as Dsara. How nice for his other children…

    • Science Doc

      I’ve learned the names of his children. They are: Dfirstwun, Dsecunwun, Dthrdwun, Dforthwun, and Dwunsinafricasoubettashutupantoedaline.

  • Vaquera

    Saint Hill preparation photos posted one hour ago via the CoS and CC Las Vegas FB page…refresh

    • Science Doc

      I’d go but it’s so expensive to rent a horse in England and have you ever gone through TSA screening wearing a full suit of armor?

      • aegerprimo

        Nope.

    • RBE

      And in the blink of an eye those images have now disappeared from their page!

    • vistaril_LOL

      Toy Castle – like something a white trash lottery winner would have built.

      • TheQueenofBulgravia

        We are not amused. We never won the lottery.

    • aquaclara

      Ah, so love seeing the flags, spaceships and medieval trappings all mixed in for the big circus event. But what is it with their fondness for capital letters and horrible fonts in the signs?

    • TheRupture

      Looks like a typical Scientology crowd. I noticed on your previous FB pic, # of Invited was 0.

      I like the horse in a hampster wheel imagery. And is that an RPF’r they have hanging from the castle? Is that going to be the cocktail hour early bird entertainment?

      http://i.imgur.com/iX5j1HZ.jpg?1

      http://i.imgur.com/g6FF3oB.jpg?

  • Truthiwant

    Here’s some new Ron and Mary Sue comics http://wp.me/5clPR

    Just a thought for all the ladies out there, I mean, what sort of a husband was Ron?

    But hey! A small thought also for all the men out there, like, what sort of a wife was Mary Sue?

    • Science Doc

      It’s a match made in heaven. Bet they were both relieved to learn that Mary Sue did not qualify for conjugal visits in the slammer.

      • richelieu jr

        ALL of her conjugal visits were with ‘The Slammer’. With characteristic bombast, that is what Ron called that lady-finger in his trousers that he lost sight of forever around the age of 35.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I think of her as the wife of Harcourt Fenton “Harry” Mudd form the original Star Trek

  • Bradley Greenwood

    I could have gone another 53 years without seeing those breasts 🙁

    • Observer

      Lucky you–now you don’t have to!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Ditto!

    • Hey, it could have been worse, there could have been a Nip Slip.

  • Artoo45

    This is Investigative Journalism. This is by far one of the most powerful (and also the creepiest) tale you’ve ever revealed here in the Bunker. .

    • Science Doc

      Yes. One of those ones you could never make up but when you see it, it fits in perfectly with everything else.

  • Science Doc

    Here is the flag they need to fly over the castle for this weekend’s IAS event.

    • Missionary Kid

      OK, I’m lazy. What do those flags mean?

      • Science Doc

        Hurricane. AKA a shit storm. Whales need to go deep or run aground.

        • Missionary Kid

          Perfect.

        • FromPolandWithLove

          I thought that those flags mean “Contagious disease”, because I’m afrait that some whales will gona have rabies after today’s post. Just sayin’

      • aegerprimo

        Hurricane

  • I will state in Black and White why Bob and Trish Duggan shipped out V to
    good a Loyal South African family.
    Carol and Robin are paid $8000 a MONTH by
    the Duggans to care for V and that includes V getting Scientology auditing.
    V
    V is violent. He has been violent since a very young child. There is an incident where
    he took up a knife and stabbed
    someone. He has been known to run around the
    property screaming “I want to KILL, I want to KILL”.
    The Duggans just COULD
    not live with this kid anymore.
    Even in Clearwater the Duggans and their kids
    were so disruptive, including T and V that they were asked to rent a house off
    base. They rented a house on Clearwater Beach.
    Probably the #1 vampire Reg
    (Sales person) of the entire Clearwater operation is South African Charmaine
    Rogers. She moves in to the space of the target and does not leave, even
    pursuing for 2-3 days til she gets the money by fair means or foul.
    Charmaine
    has bragged that ONLY she is permitted to deal with Duggan for money, and that
    Duggan will finance all Ideal Orgs in South Africa.

    There is an
    *arrangement* where Duggan’s violent child is taken care of by Scientology
    arrangement and Scientology Inc gets mega bucks.
    Here’s Charmaine who extorts
    megabucks from Bob Duggan, $50 million and counting.
    REFRESH

    • trunklesstree

      They never lived on Clearwater Beach. They rented a rather large house off Druid Street and then purchased and moved to a house on Belleair Beach.

      • Thank you. Belleair Beach, not Clearwater beach. But Imagine having the biggest dodnor of all time being asked to live off base.

        • trunklesstree

          Those kids, including “V” were still allowed full run of the Fort Harrison, without being chaperoned. My kids were good friend with both of the boys shipped out. Both still are on Facebook and seem happy.

          They definitely had a strange upbringing, raised mainly by their mannies. Trish seemed to enjoy them more when they were much younger, but once they reached around 10 or so, they were left to fend for themselves and hung out mainly at wog friend homes.

          • aquaclara

            I’m glad your kids were good friends with them. These boys could use friends in their life, after the awful things they have gone through.

        • Science Doc

          This will end poorly for all but especially the child who needs to be placed in a facility in the US where he can be diagnosed and treated.

        • FromPolandWithLove

          Your post was deleted. But I have managed to read it before. Very sad and disturbing story. Maybe Duggans think that they have done best to this boy? Maybe they really think that shipping off V to SA in best they can do? Maybe I,m foolling myself, because for me it’s hard to belive that they did it only because of their comfort and image…
          Karen thank You for sharing with us 🙂

          • Joe Hurtado

            I read it over at OCMB. It makes the story even more perplexing and disturbing. He will not get the proper care he needs. And worse, I predict that auditing and sec checking will exacerbate the child’s condition. Certainly won’t help his frustration tolerance, will it?

            • TheRupture

              I saw Charlie’s post over there and his FB link. He sounds like a man on a rough journey, relieved he’s moving forward but understandably concerned about all invovled. I was pretty flabbergasted once again today to see some interesting faces. I want this one to have a happy family ending.

    • Eclipse-girl

      A second child was also off loaded to South Africa. It was not V’s half brother.

      Do you have any information about that child?

    • TheRupture

      That child needs professional mental health diagnosis and treatment yesterday it sounds like. I had a feeling this story was only going to get worse.

      Is there anything that realistically be done to help?

      • Eclipse-girl

        x eleventy billion

        • FromPolandWithLove

          Karen’s post has just dissapeared 🙁

          • Eclipse-girl

            Do you think Karen did it or Tony?

            • Sid

              Larry Byrnes said it was the Rothschilds that took it down.

            • TheRupture

              OT, but any relation to James? 2nd gen?

            • Sid

              IDK sorry.

            • Science Doc

              Only the Mod can actually delete. I was relying to Karen when I got the red message that the post had been deleted by the moderator.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              I don’t have any idea Eclipse, and I must admitt I’m a bit worried. Maybe because Karen’s post was flagged?

            • Eclipse-girl

              I didn’t see the flag.
              according to Science Doc only a moderator can DELETE a comment.

              If Tony was responsible, he did because he could not verify what Karen posted and did not want rumors being spread around.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              Now I understand. I trust Tony and I trust Karen, I hope this wast best solution

            • Science Doc

              Or Karen asked him to. I don’t know, but need to avoid the appearance of false and malicious reporting is higher than normal under the circumstances. Hence the careful and respectful tone introducing the glass art and web pages, etc.

            • Robert Eckert

              Or: he just does not want to disseminate information about a minor.

          • trunklesstree

            As it should have. It was in extremely poor taste. She was referring to a memory she had when that child was very young. I am sure there are stories regarding her son at age 4 that she doesn’t want plastered all over the internet.

            Edit: Furthermore, Tony should perhaps tell the entire story regarding that adoption and why the parents lost custody in the first place. It wasn’t as though there was no reason.

            • Joe Hurtado

              I’m not sure how the back story about the adoption bears on the Duggans shipping two kids off to S. Africa because they became inconvenient. If it did, I suspect Tony wouldn’t get into it because Charlie Mikich has two young daughters who at some point will get on the internet. Laying out the reasons for a decision made many years ago might reveal things that they are too young to understand or that the father doesn’t want them to know until they can. That would be in poor taste.

            • Jimmy3

              You’re dam right. I looked into further into it, and I’ve realized that these kids won the lottery of life. The Duggans are definitely shitty people for sending them away as if they’re worn-out novelties that can be stowed away. But based on where one starts and where one is likely to end up… these kids are going to be just fine.

          • Tony and I spoke, and I understand, I reposted my blurb on OCMB and ESMB. Tony absolutely called it right for this blog and stand by for soooooooooooooo much more to be revealed on the Internet in due course…

            • Bob Duggan and Alexander Jentzsch on Santa Barbara Beach back in the day.
              Refresh for image

            • aquaclara

              Thanks, Karen, for this note. I will go visit….

              This stuff with kids….it is the very worst of all that is worse in Scientology. My heart just breaks.

              What you and Tony are doing here is invaluable. And for those who are speaking up, sharing stories….

          • Captain Howdy

            Huh? That’s what I get for taking a nap.

            • stillgrace2

              Wipe the sleep out of those eyes and head over to ESMB. Look for Karen #1.

            • TheRupture

              Don’t go over to OCMB unless your fully awake either.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Just what I suspected!
              Grrrrrrrr.
              They can afford to get this kid real help…..(which may not work…ok, likely may not work).
              But instead…..ship off the problem to totally unqualified morons to deal with it.
              G.A.H.!!!

            • stillgrace2

              I hear you, Bury. Professional help and possibly medication “could” help with this kind of situation. Auditing won’t help. Full stop. Saunas and vitamins won’t help either.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              He was lucky to have two sets of parents??? My ass , this situation can be surce of torment and pain in this boy’s mind

            • Jo

              I’ve just had a look at Carol Hogarth FB. She’s calling the kid her son? Not sure what this means. removed name.

              Carol Diane Hogarth
              27 May 2013 ·
              I
              am having the most amazing time. Becoming a Mother at my age (which I
              definately won’t mention)has so many mixed emotions attached to it.
              First of all my child is a challenge and a half. With what he went
              through as a baby.. the scars that have been left are so raw that is
              sick to see how much damage another human being can do to their own
              child. I also now know that unless the correct technology is applied the
              person will be like this for ever. It is true. Time does not fix
              wounds like this. They need to be handled in a very specific way
              otherwise instead of getting better they just get worse. I say this
              after first hand experience. But I also have the joys. After finding
              people who can help me I see that there can be joy and light at the end
              of the tunnel. He can learn to trust, care and love. and so we go hand
              in hand a step at a time…. and with my age and wisdom and life
              experiences I can cope better and better and so does he… miracles do
              still happen if you live a good clean life and are lucky and brave
              enough to find and let people who can help you… but some are not brave
              enough…and do not believe that conditions can change and so they live
              in darkness… thank heavans my little “removed” each day because
              in his life he has found not one but two sets of parents who cared
              enough to do something about it… shine brightly sweety.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yeah. Until he loses it on her and either kills her or scares the shit out of her.
              I know I sound hard…but this is NOT something to get touchy feely on!

            • Jo

              Story makes me feel sick. My Mum was a foster parent. It looks like he was readopted? They mention updating his visa.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yep. He was a problem….to be shuffled.

            • Elar Aitch

              Johnny Lewis redux

        • TheRupture

          Come to think of it, now I wonder if this is the billionaire’s version of the Introspection Rundown (out in the wilderness or isolated) and the boys were shipped off as far as physically possible from David Miscavige, always worried about covering his precious backside at all costs. This is where the rubber hits the road, shit hits the fan, the real down and disgusting dangers and delusions of Scientology quakery. Trying to turn down to simmer. I told myself early on I wasn’t going to speculate but wait. Well, that didn’t last long.

    • Sid

      So for all the money in the world, and LRH saying ‘we now have the tech to handle any case’ they couldn’t handle one little kid.

    • Victoria Pandora

      This is sad.

      • Chee Chalker

        What was Karen’s comment….looks like it was deleted

      • Chee Chalker

        Never mind……..

    • Jimmy3

      Were they sure he was not saying “I WANT KRILL. I WANT KRILL.”? Whale babies eat tons of krill.

  • Panopea Abrupta
    • aegerprimo

      Scary! Just in time for Halloween! RED X the tricks.

  • richelieu jr

    Oh my eyes! Those pancake boobies!

    “THE ANTI-FAPPENING pt II: The Flap-Jackening!”

    ‘You’ll scream! You’ll cry! You’ll kiss all future erections bye-bye!’

    It makes me suspect this whole story is a ruse to sell his company’s new boner pills.

    • Deeana

      Oh, xenu, that is an unfortunate photo of a woman in an unfortunate dress, striking an unfortunate pose! And beyond that, she apparently thought it was a=-ok because she posted the damn thing. Yikes! Ladies, there comes a time…….

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      They gave so much money to the cult, she couldn’t afford a decent bra.

    • Robert Eckert

      She needs to audit out those booby thetans.

      • richelieu jr

        I hope you mean ‘audit IN’, way, way in her house, somewhere dark and far from cameras…

  • Jgg2012

    I think this is how the con worked. The Duggans had a family problem (unwanted kids); a family therapist or psychologist may have said “they need psych drugs”. If so, the Duggans would either (a) do so, and offend Scientology, which would have released the kids names (which, you notice, Tony took pains not to do) or (b) not do so, and be guilty of neglect, even if the were giving the kids to a nanny because that nanny would have said “do they need medication?”, so they had one alternative–hand them over to Scientology.

    • Joe Hurtado

      I can’t see a Scientologist taking a child to any therapist or psychologist.

      • Vaquera

        I can’t see a scientologist making a living by selling pharmaceuticals.

        • Missionary Kid

          I can. In $cientology, money trumps everything. Ethics only means that as long as money comes in, it’s ethical.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Bingo.
            Anything is acceptable if the money flows. Anything! Always has been, always will.
            As long as Scientology exists.

        • Joe Hurtado

          I’m a bit confused. Does Scientology oppose all medication or just psychiatric drugs? I know that Sea Org inmates have next to no medical care, but can’t regular Scientologists take meds for physical conditions?

          • Vaquera

            They counsel against all meds, including aspirin. Here is our dear Tory “Magoo” Christman’s story of epilepsy and the Co$ As reported by Jonny Jacobsen on his site Infinant Complacency:

            http://infinitecomplacency.blogspot.com/2013/06/tory-magoo-christmans-story.html

            • Joe Hurtado

              Thanks, Vaquera. Jesus Xenu on a cracker. My interest hasn’t quite been hit and miss for the last 10 years or so, yet here I see YET ANOTHER MIND FUCK on another day and another post. First, the “Crimanon” weirdness that I failed to pick up on and now the explicit death wish to their own contributors? Of course, the whales get around this, but average, ordinary Joes might sign their death warrant by following the criminal, cultists’ policies.

            • Joe Hurtado

              Now that I’ve read this, just wow. And on top of it, I imagine that as a Sea Org, Tory either didn’t have the money or the time to get to the bogus upper levels that guaranteed mind over physical matter.

              I know this is a horrible, inhumane thing to say but I do hope Misplacedhisbitch gets sent to prison and repeatedly and savagely anally raped. OK, I can see how the moderator would delete this.

            • Missionary Kid

              Your comment won’t get moderated, but Tony has cautioned against suggesting physical harm to anyone because Co$ has used statements by Bunkaroos here to illustrate a climate of violence in the anti-$cientology community.

              I, too, wish the worst for DM, but I’m not going to enumerate any fantasies here. I don’t want it used by $cientology in any court cases.

              To suggest that he be put in jail for his crimes is appropriate. Physical attacks, even imaginary, I avoid.

      • Missionary Kid

        Exactly. $cientology doesn’t work, in spite of telling everyone that they have a solution for all problems, and when it faces a problem that it can’t handle, it jettisons the person who has the problems. In the meantime, it tells everyone it’s “solved” the problem.

        The person that has the problem? It’s their fault, never Co$.

      • Jgg2012

        I can’t see a sincere scientologist inventing a drug patent.

  • nottrue

    Karen needs to do a video on this

  • Truthiwant

    The Duggans paid 50 million bucks to the IAS because they believe in their religion, and probably paid just as much money to other Scientology fundraisers.

    They are high riding Scientologists, people who have reached the state of Homo Novis.

    Ron Hubbard’s technology is an integral part of their lives. It supposedly makes them better and more able.

    Money is no problem to them, so they can afford the best Scientology technology that is available.

    They go along with it all, because they believe in it, and the proof that they are total believers is that they are continually photographed with the new spiritual leader of Scientology, Mr. David Miscavige.

    They go to the biggest events of the year and applaud the progress of Scientology because they know Scientology works.

    However, it’s quite obvious that the Duggans sent V down to South Africa because the kid has problems.

    So, why, in heaven’s name, can they not resolve V’s problems with Scientology?

    Is this, perhaps, the truth that Scientology technology is totally useless?

    And this begs the question:

    “Why, then, are the Duggans involved with Scientology?”

    • PRenaud

      Wish means that there is a big possibility that they are as cookoo as hubbard was??

      • aegerprimo

        Nail on head PRenaud !
        AND they were lucky to make the big bucks in big pharma. When I say lucky, I mean at the right place at the right time kinda lucky.

        • Cosmo Pidgeon

          That’s part of the problem I bet. He has attributed this good luck to Scientology. How could such an asshole be so fortunate he must think?….You got me Bob.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Even billionaires can be fooled and suckered, apparently.

  • grundoon

    The obvious explanations aren’t nearly bizarre enough for a Scientology context. I’ll try one:

    V saw something he shouldn’t have seen, threatened to report it, and was promptly shipped far far away from any authorities who might want to interview him.

    • Jgg2012

      Maybe. Or maybe he took some medication, felt better, but Scientology did not want that.

  • aegerprimo

    The cheetah is shooped. Look at the bad drop shadow effect along the side of the face.
    (refresh)

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    As an adopted kid, all I can say is:
    These people shouldn’t even be able to own a stuffed animal.
    Sick fucks that will throw away an inconvenient child when they have unlimited funds to get the kid the best care in the world.
    I hope the Duggan’s rot in hell.

    • Jgg2012

      “I hope the Duggan’s rot in hell’ how about the RPF?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        The Duggan’s are Whales.
        RPF is for chum (sea org).

    • Observer

      That’s what gets me–there are so many options to get this kid the treatment he needs here, and they can afford every single one. So they ship him off to people with no child rearing experience in a dangerous country in a different hemisphere. WTF?

    • aquaclara

      Bury, there is a Board of Directors at a certain company that I hope hears your outrage, my outrage and everyone else’s. Directors are usually very sensitive to morals and ethics issues.

      Hint, hint.

    • Chee Chalker

      Whatever happened to sending your problem kid to military or boarding school? Isn’t that what the wealthy normally do? I wonder if there is more to it. I wonder when we can expect the Duggars to claim their two kids are on an ‘exchange program’ in South Africa…..

  • Science Doc

    I found a video where someone named V introduces himself, and the Church is not going to like him.

    ► 2:03► 2:03
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACUpr5GvVsE
    Jun 5, 2010 – Uploaded by AmFilms123
    V’s alliterative introductory monologue upon meeting Evey from the … Who is but the form …

  • outraged

    If ebola broke out in Sweden, 4,000 people would be alive today.
    We will owe our lives to Thomas Eric Duncan.
    Because he died in Texas, the US is on board now.
    FUK the CDC.

  • anoni81b4u

    Smart enough to make 1.5 billion … .. dumb enough to be in this silly cult….. blows my friggin mind!

    • Missionary Kid

      There really is no real connection between emotion and logic. Smart people in $cientology is proof of that. Everything is based on emotion, and a well-oiled con game is in effect, and all con games work because of they all depend on manipulation of emotions.

      • daytoncapri

        Smart people tend to believe BS. It’s item #2 in this article. http://www.cracked.com/article_19174_5-unexpected-downsides-high-intelligence.html

        • Missionary Kid

          That doesn’t make it so, but it can add to a smart person’s hubris because they’re right many times.

          Story: I had a friend whose father graduated from MIT in 3 years after WWII. In her house, her father had her convinced that fly swatters were just a gimmick. When she finally used one, she realized how wrong her father was.

          • Jimmy3

            Perhaps he meant they’re a gimmick in that they’re a waste of money? Anything around you that you can pick up and swing is a fly swatter. Hell, you don’t have to pick anything up, I just catch them between my fingers, give them a stern talking-to and set them free outside. And if you’re in a situation where a fly swatter is necessary, a slotted spatula works just as well.

            • Missionary Kid

              I should have said that he claimed that a newspaper works just as well. It doesn’t. You can’t get the velocity on a newspaper that makes it as effective as a fly swatter. It also doesn’t have the reach that a fly swatter does, and requires the movement of much more of your body to use it, hence making for easier detection of your motion as you swing it.

            • Jimmy3

              It’s about air displacement. That’s why fly swatters are more effective. That’s why I said slotted spatulas are a good substitute. But fly swatters not necessary. If you cannot swat a fly with a rolled up newspaper, I dare say your technique needs refining, sir. Practice.

              Meanwhile, I’ll be practicing typing.

            • Captain Howdy

              Never owned a fly swatter and I have more kills than Erich Hartmann. Flyswatters are for dilettantes.

            • Missionary Kid

              O.K., I’ll be a dilettante, but I’ve been able to nail ’em quicker with a fly swatter.

            • Captain Howdy

              You gotta catch ’em in your hand like Robert Vaughn in The Magnificent Seven

            • Missionary Kid

              Why? It’s a movie. Why should I waste my time trying to duplicate a fiction?

            • Captain Howdy

              I’ve done it numerous times.

            • Missionary Kid

              Good for you. My reactions aren’t that good, and I have little desire to study fly psychology to see how they take off.

            • Captain Howdy

              Dude, you’re a pilot, you should be the ultimate fly ace : )

            • Missionary Kid

              Not really. It’s not a matter of being quick, but making the right move. That’s what you train for.

            • Robert Eckert

              So you can become President of the United States?

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyQ3ToiimyM

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m too much of an asshole for that. 😉

            • Vaquera

              So then, run on the GOP ticket.
              (Joking, no insult intended)

            • Missionary Kid

              😛

            • Vaquera

              Sadly, it means that Ted Cruz is also legal to run on the GOP presidential ticket. Damn.

            • Missionary Kid

              That will result in a loss for the GOP. He appeals to his base, but he’s scary to the rest of the voters.

            • Vaquera

              I was joking and he’s an embarrassment.

            • Missionary Kid

              The idea of him as President is scary because he is an embarrassment.

            • Vaquera

              I live in Texas, you’re preach in’ to the choir.

            • Missionary Kid

              Well, he is a real hit with the women….NOT.

            • Missionary Kid

              To add, I can’t be President. I wasn’t born in the U.S.
              I got my citizenship as soon as I was registered after birth with the U.S. Consulate because my parents were citizens.

            • Robert Eckert

              It doesn’t say in the Constitution you have to be born in the US, that’s an urban legend. It says you have to be a natural-born citizen, which you were if you were registered as a citizen by virtue of your birth– as opposed to a “naturalized” citizen who had to go through testing and an oath and all that.

            • Missionary Kid

              You’re right. I just unlearned something I’ve thought was true for 69 years. Thanks.

            • Robert Eckert

              Most recently this came up when McCain was running. He was born in Panama. Congress passed a resolution that he was included under “natural-born citizen” as far as they were concerned. There has never been a Supreme Court interpretation of the clause, but the interpretation of Congress actually matters more since they are the ones who get to decide which electoral votes are valid.

            • Missionary Kid

              I understood that McCain was born in the military hospital in Panama, which would be considered U.S. sovereign territory anyway. I guess that legislation removed any doubts about it.

            • Robert Eckert

              There was no maternity ward in the military hospital in the Canal Zone until after his birth: it is believed that Roberta McCain went into the city of Colon (outside the Zone) though no-one has actually asked her (she is still alive, last I heard, though very out of it). A search of the Canal Zone records, now in the publicly-available National Archives, turned up no birth certificate for McCain whatsoever (ironic in view of all the “birther” nonsense about Obama).
              And in any case, the Zone was never “US sovereign” territory. It was always Panamanian sovereignty, under a “perpetual lease” (not even like the 99-year lease of Hong Kong: the US had the right to renew as long as it wanted, but under Carter finally decided it was time to let Panama have it back). In particular, children born to Panamanian workers within the Zone had no claim to US citizenship.

            • Missionary Kid

              I made some assumptions, and you’ve cleared them up. Thanks.

            • richelieu jr

              I just knew McCain came from a colon the minute I saw him…

            • Vaquera

              Good question for a Sciloon.

            • Missionary Kid

              I hadn’t thought of it that way, but that’s a perfect question for them.

            • richelieu jr

              I just got myself one of those little plastic tennis rackets that fries ’em up really nice with little sparks and a sizzling sound.

              Fair? Nope.
              Necessary? Nope.

              Satisfying? Hells, yes!

            • Missionary Kid

              You certainly can, and I certainly have killed numerous flies with newspapers, but my kill ratio is far higher with a flyswatter.

            • Jimmy3

              MLB players hit more HRs while they were juiced, too. Your reliance on the swatter will keep you out of the Hall of Fame, MK. And that’s a damn shame, because you’ve had a great career. smh

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m still laughing. Good one. I’d rather make sure my screens are free of holes.

              For fun, when I don’t have a fly swatter, I hit them with an aerosol spray of a cleaner.

            • Captain Howdy

              MK was using a corked swatter? I’m crestfallen.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m getting corked off over this discussion. BTW, who’s the commissioner of fly swatting?
              😉

            • Jimmy3

              Jeff Goldblum is the Players Association President.

            • Captain Howdy

              If you wanna have some real fun, flame them with a can of aerosol spray.

            • Missionary Kid

              I believe that insects breathe through small openings in their skin. If they’re irritated with an aerosol, it seems to drive them nuts. They don’t fly too well because they can’t absorb the oxygen needed.

            • Jimmy3

              I’m not really looking to become a serial killer… but I’ll keep that in mind.
              Nah, I only spray yellow jacket nests. Protip: never throw away dead yellow jacket/wasp nests. They won’t build new nests within a certain range of dead hives, and you can actually break up chunks of it and bury them around to keep them away.

            • Captain Howdy

              I refuse to kill bees but hornets and wasps are a whole other story.

            • Missionary Kid

              I use a spray cleaner. For black widow spiders, WD-40 does a great job. Little toxic residue.

            • Jimmy3

              Spray cleaner? Those yellow jacket assholes are already pretty damn shiny… I’m not going to come at them with a bottle of Windex like a damn fool. They’ll be like, hah, sucker, now we’re clean as hell as we swarm your face. Hey, bro, check out your reflection as I sting you in the eyeball. No sir. I need raid and a yard of top soil.

            • Missionary Kid

              Not Windex. I’m talking a degreaser.

              I wouldn’t use it for something that might attack me in its death throes.

          • daytoncapri

            Hubris. That’s a good word for it. And fly swatters aren’t a gimmic? :0

    • Chee Chalker

      I think $cientology also appeals to the ego (not everyone, just the celebs and whales who are treated as VIPs). The whole ‘you are a God’ thing and all that. So, for someone who may not like being told “these are the rules of this religion and they apply to everyone”, they can now hear “you are super special, a Big Being” instead. So, they now belong to an organized religion and can claim ‘spirituality’ and feel pride when people in yellow shirts run around handling out pamphlets.

  • Lil Davey Miscavige’s theme song is Willie Nelson’s version of “If You’ve Got The Money, Honey, I’ve Got The Time.” As for the Duggans, Matthew 16:26 – What
    good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their
    soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?

    • Espiando

      A short list of things I would give in exchange for my soul:

      1) The return of my ability to sustain an erection for an extended time without the use of blue pills.
      1a) And if you could add two more inches to #1, I’d appreciate it.
      2) Scrooge McDuck’s money vault.
      3) Bring Fulliautomatix from Asterix to life and make him my boyfriend.
      4) Permanent immunity from being charged with any violent crime.
      4a) Shirley Phelps-Roper in the sights of a sniper rifle.
      5) A reproduction of the Roman Colosseum with the ring containing David Miscavige and a very hungry lion.
      6) The power of life and death over everyone in Milestone Two.
      7) Carol Hogarth’s tits, now that they’re a Bunker meme.

      • beauty for ashes

        How about the ability to access all moneys of the church, apply massive refund tech to all ex scientologists and bankrupt scientology all at the same time? Maybe stick a dollar or two extra into your pocket.

        • Captain Howdy

          If I’m gonna sell my soul it’s going to be for some Count Dracula/Dorian Gray type shit, it’s not going to be to save some people who weren’t cynical enough.

        • Espiando

          Are they me? Do I benefit from this? No? So fuck ’em.

    • Onley this worthless little trinket called sanity. thatsall

      -Ron

  • George Hamar

    I really am feeling very much – WTF is going on?
    Every day now as I read these articles, I find myself becoming more disgusted, more pissed off, and more wanting to literally kick Miscavige so hard in the nuts he’d sing soprano for the rest of his miserable f*cking life. Nothing is too sacred for him to taint with his touch apparently. Even kids. Yuck. I need to wash my mind out with soap. Fuck you, you piece of shit. I cannot wait for the day when it all crashes & burns, & little Davey becomes someone’s little prison bitch.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Welcome to the winter of our discontent!

      • George Hamar

        Yeah. I had to rant – otherwise I would have gone mental.
        I appreciate the work Tony & Karen & everyone else is doing to expose the lies & BS that still goes on in & outside SCN.
        It just so happened today’s article hit a nerve with me.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Understood!

    • Jgg2012

      Well, a federal judge recently called it “stomach churning,” so I guess you are not the only one.

    • Barbara Angel

      Ditto to all that you said. Up voting you x 1,000
      All we can do to combat his psychopathic brutal little prick and his lust for money at any expense to the well being of others, is to Red-X all the scamming ads on Craigs List.
      It may not feel like much but try to see it as a preventative Community Service.
      co$ is ***absolutely desperate*** for fresh slaves and will stop at nothing to bleed dry, anyone gullible enough to hand over their credit card or financial details. Every little Red-X counts and clearly C/L are just another set of Enablers, as it can take a lot of Red-X’s for them to take down those dangerous, blatant lies.

    • Zer0

      You can blame L Ron Hubbard

  • Sid

    All those who post here and are waiting for their big Pharma checks, they will be in the mail as soon as Bob Duggan gets around to signing them. Should be any day now.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I got mine yesterday. Of course I disseminate for more than one.

      • The checks are great but Iam holding out for the big pharma free samples.

    • Draco

      Oh goodie! I started posting just in time :)))

      • Sid

        We are all only here for the money.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Tony, thanks for this story! It is fucked up.
    But to me, this is one extremely interesting piece.
    Thanks, again.

    This is why I come here.
    Every.
    Damn.
    Day!

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    Tony, You have taken this story of Scientology,over time now to the rich and powerful. A job well done. I hope you are staying safe. These are some some odd people as I’m sure you well know. I appreciate how you are careful to verify stories and stay away from rumors to bring this cult into the light……Thanks.

  • SLIM

    Children should be disposed of ….quietly and without sorrow…
    Elron Fucktard…

  • thetastic

    Holy shit.
    One of the best stories of 2014, if not the best.
    I love that this both exposes the Duggans, through paying off the families that have the boys, and exposes the church as blackmailers, because why else donate to the South Africa orgs?

  • outraged

    I hate that fuking self tanned orange smug face.
    someone should throw a pie at Him, Mr. Do good Duggand.

  • beauty for ashes

    Tony, todays story was so good. you have such an amazing voice in your storytelling. you invite your “gentle readers” in without telling them what to think.
    I think that’s why you have such a lively bunker chat every day!

  • edge

    Excellent story Tony, and credit to your sources and Mike Rinder. “We’ll ‘take care’ of the adopted kids you don’t want if you prop up our South Africa operations.” Disgusting. ‘Most ethical people on the planet’ my ass.

    Stay safe, Tony. Mike got an annoying DDoS attack when he exposed the slow motion disaster that is LA Org. Hopefully this blog stays up and running smoothly over the next few days with the IAS event going on.

  • TooDangerous2

    30 years ago parents would send their troublesome children to the Mace-Kinglsey household and school in LA, and later to the now defunct Mace-Kingsley Ranch, to be straightened out. I guess these days they can be sent to South Africa instead.

  • Remy

    It’s a shame the whales don’t know how much harm they are inflicting on humanity by supporting Miscavige/Hubbard. If they had a clue, they would put their money to work in useful projects.

    And for the sci lurkers who aren’t whales, please get out from the cult while you can. You are only hurting people by participating.

  • Vaquera

    If the Duggans have indeed been scheduled to mount the stage to pose for a photo op with the Tiny Terror of Trophies due to their SA generosity, does Tony’s report of today carry enough weight and panic to force a change of programming? In other words, would the Duggans be dumped from Davey’s Saturday evening docket?

  • Zer0

    Timing is everything

  • Hingle McCringleberry

    HCOPL 15 OCT 2014: Volunteer Ministers, KSW, and EBOLA.

    First, new VM uniforms for everyone. Refresh for example, but the suit is yellow, and no, there is not a respirator. Its just as pictured. Real big thetans do not breathe.

    Go to West Africa. Wear the UNIFORMS!! Those coal-people are superstitious and you might restim an R6 here and there, but just TR0 any machete wielding wog. Ebola, as we’ve seen in our scientific studies, is no match for the touch assist, or any other part of the tech. Only today, Mary Sue completed and SRD on a patient, and the black vomit flew right back into his mouth and he could speak 12 languages. Touch assist everyone. Route back to your Orgs when the place is clear. If you develop a symptom, do NOT go to a wog hospital. Seal a Div. in each Org and find your ruin. Sec Check until its F/N’d and all is well. You see, we are the only ones that can help,

    LRH.

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      Marcabs made me forget the picture:

      • Sir_Real

        The epitome of douche is pictured above.

        • carpe canem

          Stupid-ass punk freak-show doesn’t even know that it’s basic etiquette not to wear white to a wedding? Jesus what are the Smiths teaching these children? (Whose eyebrow pencil did he use for that mustache? Jada’s? Willow’s? His own?)

        • carpe canem

          Perhaps he needs the loving guidance of Carol and Robin Hogarth? Will and Jada may have the “right tools,” but maybe they’re just not using them. What was it Will said about discipline? Oh yeah (thanks, Google!):

          “We [Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith] don’t do punishment,” the celeb said in response to when he punished Jaden last. “The way that we deal with our kids is, they are responsible for their lives. Our concept is, as young as possible, give them as much control over their lives as possible and the concept of punishment, our experience has been—it has a little too much of a negative quality. So when they do things—and you know, Jaden, he’s done things—you can do anything you want as long as you can explain to me why that was the right thing to do for your life.”

          http://www.eonline.com/news/410981/will-smith-talks-parenting-we-don-t-do-punishment

  • Captain Howdy

    Tony…We Love You
    http://youtu.be/klTw94kTstg

    • pronoia

      Yes we do!!!!!!

  • Pierrot

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    the consolidation and updating of the various lists will be done by 5am edt, check the write up and recommendation about the RedX spread sheet at wwp:
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    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty Dodo and artist

    • Pierrot

      The consolidation of yesterday’s entries, the daily lists and the Last 4 days lists have been completed.
      they are really upping their game, the 4 days list has 431 entries and yesterday’s tally was 120.
      Let’s get them.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      i am coming to this old thread to tell you Tony is banning ppl for putting up bootleg gc or site links

      • Pierrot

        Hi Donna, I believe that this is a genuine you tube, offeringfrom HBO.
        But I will take it out.
        Thanks

        • Donna Cline Sargent

          ok just wanted to have your back 🙂 others not so lucky. but i think most did it from goodness from their hearts,for poor ppl.

  • Rocket J. Squirrel

    “Scientology leader David Miscavige keeps making bigger and bigger trophies to recognize their gifts to the International Association of Scientologists”

    At some point it will just make more sense for DM to paint himself gold and take up permanent residence on their fireplace mantel.

  • cdub

    Big pharmaceutical money. This is where the psychlos move in to control Scientology. Poor Ron Hubbard, if only he’d lived to see this day.

  • carpe canem

    Wow, my heart breaks for this poor kid. What kind of monster of an adoptive adoptive “mother” feels this way about a kid placed in her clutches? (By whose authority? under whose supervision? with what degree of oversight from which child protective agency? with love and compassion from whom?) And then what kind of monster BITCH posts this on fucking Facebook? Hey, what the hell, not like anybody’s going to see it there. I don’t give a flying fuck about the Duggans, but if I did, is this really how the cult wants to “help” them? By telling the world what awful parents they are? What are the other Duggan children like? I hope they all make it to 18 relatively unscathed, then get the hell away from whatever fake “parent” happens to have “custody” of them. The kids probably won’t leave with any money, but please God let them find friends, help, this website, Tory and other kind-hearted souls, and ultimately some happiness and peace of mind their batshit crazy “parents'” money could never buy them.

    Hey Carol, wear whatever the hell you want, but when you’re pretending to be a mother, cover your breasts when you’re with your kid. Unless you’re breast-feeding, in which case more power to you. Lucky for the guy in this photo, though, he never had to suck whatever venom your body undoubtedly produces — so I guess technically his life could actually have been worse. But, Carol, once you’ve got the wardrobe sorted, go borrow a dictionary from someone and word-clear the following: loving, caring, well-mannered (you forgot the hyphen, oops!), considerate, and thinking. And then look up “adjective” and “noun.” Maybe even “noun phrase,” but you might need a grammar book for that. Then look up “CHILD.” You may have “adopted” a person, and that person may be small, but — surprise! — he’s small because he’s a kid. They exist. They need stuff. They do not need your “right tools.” Please try not to hurt this guy too much while you have him.

  • Jenstnick

    So in a nutshell, Big Bob agrees to bail out South Africa if the quid pro quo is that someone takes a kid off their hands? Classy.

  • Nina

    Can’t get this one out of my mind- the idea of kids being treated like trash you can pay to unload to another country far away- I am haunted by this. Praying for the well being of all children who are associated with this “church” and anyone who had their childhood robbed by them. Thank you Tony Ortega for the brilliant, measured, courageous work you do bringing this to light.

  • Ellen Fürst

    https://tv.yahoo.com/news/juliette-lewis-misty-upham-feared-she-could-murdered-165500622-us-weekly.html
    It`s completly off Topic but didn`t know how or where else to ask: was Misty with Scientology or is it just the friend Juliette Lewis (and not cult member Juliette Lewis) mourning her?
    had a look at wiki, Misty made an impressing career, it`s a loss for the native americans too, maybe she found peace now…

  • KingofSweden

    After reading this story and the one at the backincomm (with more details of the kid’s behavior), it seems very likely that the kid has developed a condition known as Reactive Attachment Disorder (RAD), which is among the most difficult of all behavioral conditions to deal with.

    RAD kids are EXCEPTIONALLY difficult to raise, and the couple in South Africa seem totally unable to handle this type of parenting challenge… it is likely that the kid will actually carry out the violent threats he makes, and someone will be seriously injured or maybe even killed. (I really don’t mean to demonize the boy, but it is simply the truth that RAD kids seldom make idle threats.)

    This is not just a sad situation but a genuinely dangerous one… I pray that government authorities (whether in the USA or So. Africa) step in and force the re-location of this poor kid, for everyone’s benefit.

  • Little David

    Putting the Duggan’s adopted kids who don’t pose well with David Miscavige and giant trophies in South Africa has lots of advantages. The Duggans like to have lots of adopted children but not ones that are too much trouble and interfere with Trish’s artwork. Scientology handles these problem children in exchange for hundreds of millions of dollars from the Duggans.

  • Meelah

    “The spoilt little rich boy”….wow Carol sounds like a peach of an adoptive mother.

  • elcgmail .

    What a shame what happens to both children and adults in the name of $cientology.

    Who passes on children who may be difficult as nothing more than a possession…. I couldn’t do that with a dog :o(

  • Jack C

    Okay, so are we suppose to feel bad for Charlie? I mean seriously, the guy looks like he used to be homeless and with all due respect, isn’t the kid in South Africa WAY better off? Think long and hard about this for a moment.
    Have the boy in SA live with Charlie, whom is his natural father but had to give him up for adoption because he was a homeless drug user or let him live in SA where he has people caring for him?
    I don’t really see much of a story here. The kid wasn’t stolen from Charlie, he was legally adopted.
    Charlie didn’t (at least from the court transcript) appear to have his life together and now he’s upset that his “son” (which to the best of my knowledge simple took a load to produce) is living in SA and was adopted by people who could give him a much better life? Give me a break…

    • MCurie

      Why does this entire CoS-sponsored comment leave out the Duggans completely? Irrespective of Charlie I think the bottom line is that the Duggans are the child’s legal parents–they adopted him for him to live with them here in the U.S. (the country of the child’s birth and citizen-ship). But instead they got tired of the child and so they unloaded him about 8000 miles away, across an ocean, in a different country on a different continent. And they were able to do this by giving the CoS enormous sums of money, some of which was used to pay for upper-level scientology coursework for the new foster parents there, as well as for their personal use. The Duggans paid-off Scientology and the Hogarths to take their child (that they didn’t like dealing with) to a foreign country. This has not been legally done through an American court system to make the Hogarths the child’s legal parents. The child probably does not have legal immigration paperwork to be living in South Africa for more than a temporary tourist visa.
      The Duggans have disposed of a human child that was theirs because he was inconvenient. Doesn’t sound very ‘humanitarian’ to me.

    • L. C. Spencer

      his “son” (which to the best of my knowledge simple took a load to produce)

      Yeah, you lost all credibility right there, asshole. Hopefully in you next life you’ll come back as a human being.

  • octowussy

    Those are the worst kids’ names I’ve ever heard.

    Also, lady, put those things away.

  • This brings to mind when I spoke to Dr Megan Shields a while ago. She is an OT 8, $cientologist for years and an M.D. $cio doctor the church sends people to see for medical care. Megan let me know that both her children ( while in $cientology ) had committed suicide ( which is a very sad thing ) I feel for her. The wild part was she had found a couple who agreed to conceive for her and they did. Megan has the female child and fully believes that this is her daughter that committed suicide reincarnated. Megan said to me she couldn’t understand why there wasn’t a program within the Church for the children who weren’t doing well as there were too many suicides with $cientology children. I was taken back by this comment as I hadn’t heard of this happening. But then again you wouldn’t because it would be covered up or a shore story passed around among the $cientology public.

    • Eclipse-girl

      The church is known for covering up suicide. Steve Brackett comes to mind.

      I am sorry such an educated person believes their dead child will be reincarnated as their new child.
      It maybe very difficult for that youngster growing up.

  • 1bestdog

    Hmmmm. Has anybody else noticed the fine folks at Fox News seem to have learned a trick or two from COS? Obfuscating discussions with slander of their opponents etc? And the leadership of COS seems awfully square white boy. Also note Mr. Duggan’s fave author is Any Rand? I wonder what the story is about Fox’s Great Van Sustern, whose husband is a big member (as is she) and she funded and adores Sarah Palin?

  • Valhalkarie

    How can the people that agreed to have an open adoption with a child’s parents,basicly sell the kid they adopted into a CULT on another continent!? Not offering or even talking,checking to see to the birth fathers life has changed. He may be able to take him, They also know that he was kind of forced into the adoption. He wanted his kid. It’s so evil and cruel how State social workers really look for and single out poor parents,to get there richest couples desired children. And it’s discusting how scientologists think everything they do is ok.

  • Valhalkarie

    There are REAL human rights marches going on right NOW in Mexico,today!!!!!Where’s Scientology??!!!!! Huh???

  • MostEthicalPimp

    I love the new illustrations easier on the eyes than the real thing. Thanks Chad Essley

    • MrsLurksALot

      I second that emotion.

  • Missionary Kid

    If you’re back here reading this, don’t forget to click on the heart right under the number of comments. It raises the visibility of the article with Disqus.

    • Toni m

      Done.

  • MostEthicalPimp
    • Richard Grant

      Great idea — but the pictures were never Duggan’s real beef. His beef is with Tony for daring to uncover his shady and bizarre child-shopping practices. And for anybody just dropping in, you can read more about Duggan’s legal tantrum here:

      http://tonyortega.org/2015/05/06/bob-duggan-the-richest-scientologist-in-the-world-is-going-to-love-our-nifty-new-drawings/

      • Sibs

        “Child-shopping practices”

        See, that’s the thing about all of this. It’s not really child-shopping, it’s child trafficking. A normal person would be loathe to give away their child, and would only do so at an extremely high price/extreme circumstances. Instead, the Duggans are saying we’ll only give you millions of dollars if you could please please pleeeeeease take this kid off our hands, you don’t even have to give us anything just take the stupid kid. It’s backwards and it’s indicative of how $cientology treats children general.

  • chukicita

    Chad Essley has my admiration for deftly capturing the essence of the craziness inherent in the story in his images.

  • Sibs

    Encore! Encore!

    Way to circumvent Bob Duggan’s sleaziness and create some nice works of art in the process.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Dynamite drawings. This is great!

  • Robert Eckert

    And here’s Bob and Trish complaining to Google:

    http://www.game37.net/images/games/1352424257.jpg

  • Science Doc

    The drawing of Trish with the cheetah needs to look faker. Maybe put the actual cat photo onto the drawing of her to emphasize the shooped characteristic.

  • Juicer77

    +100 points for the annoyed cheetah. Perfect!

  • Toni m

    duggan is like is best friend dave misgarbage, they can’t get it. All the money they have and can’t stop people from knowing about their tricks. The millions duggan is giving to dm are used to defend the abuses perpetrated by this organization. Abuses they call fair game. One place we can see this fair game in full is in the coming book “The unbreakable Miss Lovely” a story that happened and still happening today to someone who had/have the courage to denounce scientology.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Shared on fb – my good dead for the day is done! 😉

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    And when was it that Gilbert Gottfried hosted the IAS Awards Gala…?

    (Also, isn’t he taller than the illustration implies?)

    • Draco

      That trophy is not gaudy enough…did he put in all the bling?

    • Newiga

      You are right! It looks A LOT like Gilbert Gottfried. :’D

    • Sarcasmo

      I knew he looked familiar, just couldn’t put my finger on it till your post.

  • ObsessedReader

    Brilliant, Tony! I LOVE the artist’s renditions, very fitting. This is hilarious!

  • Room 101(Nick Lister)

    Nice touch 🙂 Everyone hit the “Recommended” heart to get this story as much attention as possible

    • Newiga

      115 hearts so far, and going up!

  • Braveheart

    Brilliant – just brilliant 🙂

    • Robert Hammond

      Brilliant and beautiful as John Travolta would say.

  • Mockingbird

    We can get this past 1000 comments !! Our present to a billionaire !

    • MostEthicalPimp

      YES WE CAN!

      • Sarcasmo

        +1

        • Robert Hammond

          993 and climbing!

    • Robert Hammond

      Hello!

      • Mockingbird

        See , just a few note to go !

  • eloise

    Hoisted on one’s own petard, Mr. Duggan. Well done, Tony.

  • aquaclara

    Duggan may have money, but he has no heart. Perhaps if he were to speak up now, before it is too late, there may be a few generous hearts among us who might think more kindly of him. But his children will never see that; scarred by being given away, or seeing siblings “disappeared” to the other side of the globe, is not explained away by any religion.
    Free the Duggan children now.

    • M from Toronto

      You can tell what God thinks of money, look at the people he gave it to – Dorothy Parker
      I’ll make this comparison, aqua, Kim Kardashian has money, and like Bob Duggan, she is one of the poorest people I’ve ever heard of.

      • scottmercer

        Duggan makes Kim K look like Mother Theresa.

        • M from Toronto

          He does, but I had to think of a horrifying person to attach him to she would be a great example of a person he was so “superior” to in his own mind.

  • aquaclara

    If I were a board member of Duggan’s company, I would have him investigated for ethics violations.
    Just parking this here for those who DO look.

  • Robert Hammond

    Don’t Scientologists believe that drugs are bad and you can cure cancer and other diseases with mind over matter?

    • Robert Hammond
      • scottmercer

        Yes, one of true ironies of Scientology is that it’s being supported by one of its supposed enemies, Big Pharma, aka Bob Duggans money.

        • Robert Hammond

          And they accuse journalists and critics of taking Big Pharma money. Hypocrisy much?

          • chukicita

            *That* explains why I’ve never seen my check from Big Pharma for all my enturbulative work. Been waiting 20 years!

  • stillgrace2

    Who wants to bet that it was miscavige that “instructed” Bob to complain to google?
    I bet 3.5 billion clams that he did. (assuming I can find that many).

    • Sarcasmo

      Last I heard there were only about 25,000 thousand clams in this sector of the guh-luxee.

  • StudiusJudius

    A friend gave me this the other day, and it reminded my of both Scientology’s leader, and Bob Duggan

    http://assets.amuniversal.com/7c264530e4f2012fed51001dd8b71c47

    • Sarah James

      Nailed it! 🙂

  • Sarcasmo

    One more comment to bust a thousand.