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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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VIDEO: L. Ron Hubbard solves the Cold War and your bad marriage

ARCAh, Dianetics! Our video source came through again, and we have another “quote video” of an L. Ron Hubbard lecture. In this case, it was Hubbard giving a talk on Dianetics in November 1950, about six months after his best-selling book had come out and created a craze.

To this day, Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health is considered “Book One” in the Hubbard canon, and it is still pushed as the introductory text to Scientology.

Time and again, we hear from people who say they first got into Scientology by reading this book, and they tell us how much it spoke to them and really hooked them. And every time they say that, we have to shake our heads.

Last year, we blogged Dianetics from cover to cover with former Scientologist Vance Woodward, and that’s when we learned the book’s actual message: That all of us are walking around carrying the psychic scars of damage we received when dad had rough sex with mom while we were a zygote of a few cells attached to the wall of her uterus.

Oh, you didn’t know that’s what Dianetics is about? Well, it is, and it’s a shame that most media outlets won’t tell you that. Too squeamish, apparently.

Anyway, this excerpt is much less interesting than Hubbard’s assertion, also in Dianetics, that you may be suffering problems in your adult life because your pregnant mother spent too much time on the crapper.

Here’s how Bridge Publications describes this, the Dianetics Professional Course: “Following six months of coast-to-coast travel, lecturing to the first Dianeticists, L. Ron Hubbard assembled auditors in Los Angeles for a new Professional Course. The subject was his next sweeping discovery on life — the ARC Triangle, describing the interrelationship of Affinity, Reality and Communication.”

And here’s Hubbard. Just soak in that early Dianetics wisdom as Hubbard explains the problem between the US and the Soviet Union, and hands out life advice: If your marriage sucks, talking to your wife might actually help. Ya think?

 

 
We asked Marc Headley to watch the video and tell us if he recognized people in it. And boy, did he. Take it away, Marc…

The audio is from a lecture that Hubbard did in Los Angeles in November 1950. If my hunch is correct, Hubbard left his baby in the car while he was giving this lecture. Any Internet sleuths out there could connect the dots and prove me right.

[Alexis, the daughter Hubbard had with his second wife, Sara ‘Betty’ Northrup, was born on March 8, so she would have been eight months old in November. Can anyone corroborate Marc’s anecdote? UPDATE: According to this press clipping, Hubbard was cited for leaving Alexis in a car during a lecture in December, not November.]

This video is jam-packed with Int Base staff. We start out with Tony Pinder, Ron Sommerville, and Jennifer Champagne. Tony Pinder was a video editor and was included in videos as much as possible so we could at least make it look like there were not only white folks in Scientology. Ron Sommerville was in the Sets Department and would be building the set up until 45 seconds before the shot at which point he would jump into a suit and get into the shot as “talent.”

Jennifer Champagne worked in CMO (Commodore’s Messenger Org) International and generally was on administrative posts. Her husband was a security guard and part of some of the craziest stuff that happened at the Int Base, including spying on David Miscavige himself (according to Miscavige). Bob Champagne would eventually be assigned to the RPF and then left the base and the Sea Org. Sadly, Jennifer Champagne stayed and a few short years after Bob left she became ill. She was constantly tired from a continual lack of sleep (like everyone at the Int Base). But when she started having body aches and went to the doctor, they ran some tests. She was found to have cancer in just about all of her major organs and sadly she died shortly thereafter. Jennifer was in her late 30s.

In the background we have Pat Hunter, Carl Leach, and Catherine Frasier. Pat was in Manufacturing, Carl Leach was a musician, and Catherine Frasier was in PR.

In the next scene we have Abigail Miller and some other local girls. Abigail Miller used to be in CMO Int and has since left the Int Base.

The next scene we have Mike Gilchrist, Chuck Brummer, and Hans Hasslberger pretending to build something off in a deserted part of the Int Base property. Mike Gilchrist now works in the “Back Office” (Visuals Department) at Golden Era Productions.

Back in the Dianetics Center we have Mimica (Micaela) Blasco and some older gentleman. For a good time Mimica was assigned to work with me personally to attempt to make me a better executive by word clearing me on Hubbard’s management policies. Shortly thereafter, Mimica was sent to the RPF in PAC and has since left the Sea Org and is a makeup artist in LA.

In the next scene we have Chris Wilson and a head of hair doing Dianetics counseling outside near the water. Chris Wilson worked in the LRH film and Equipment unit and was a darkroom tech for the most part. She is now in Golden Era in the Stills department and does all her photo work on the computer.

Next outside session includes Lars Bystrom and Mike Gilchrist. Lars was a master carpenter and Mike Gilchrist was an MAA for most of his years and later would end up in the Cinematography division working on a shoot team.

Back in the Dianetics center we have Aleah Chisholm, Steve Young, Chloe Morrison, and Charlene Hartley. Aleah was generally an auditor and ended up in charge of the Qualifications division only to get busted off post and made into a video editing lackey. Steve Young works in the Stills department, and Chloe Morrison is in the Translations Unit.

After an imminent nuclear threat montage, we end up in a conference room with Bob Ferris, McHenry Ellis, and Allan Baumgarten. Bob Ferris is Cine Technician, Allan and Sherry Baumgarten (Wayne’s parents) were both shipped back to Australia as they were elderly and Dave Miscavige does not like people dying at the base.

After this we have shots of people walking, reflecting inward. Ute Schian and Ron Pratt are the stars of this scene. Ute was in RTC forever before being busted out by Dave Miscavige and assigned to Video Editing. Ron Pratt was the Case Supervisor at Gold for the entire time I was there but ended up being made a dishwasher.

After a dinner scene with all hired actors we get back outside to the productive building scene with Mike Gilchrist and Hans Hasslberger. Shawn Allcock, Winston Mellor, and Marco Grizetti join the crew. Shawn Allcock took over from me as the Shoot crew Chief over the film unit. He is still on this post as far as I know. Winston Mellor was in the Cinematography division and a steward in RTC, Amber O’Sullivan, had a mad crush on him. She ended up getting busted off post as part of the Shelly Miscavige flap and she was made a bucket cleaner in the Cinematography division. As it would turn out, Amber is my wife’s cousin! She is now the head of the Cinematography division and she and Winston were married.

Marco Grizzetti was a huge Italian guy who worked in the Audio Division as a voice recordist. If you have ever seen the movie Goonies, Marco is Sloth’s brother from another mother. Sadly Marco also became ill. He was shipped back to Italy in 2011 and hopefully he is still alive.

At this point we have one more outside conversation we need to see with Faith Schermerhorn and Sarah Fear. Sarah Fear was in the Hole. Faith was a services person in CMO Int and could be seen rounding up food or supplies for the Hole dwellers or getting them vitamins when they could not stay awake after a few days with no sleep. Faith ended up getting shipped off the base to set up Ideal Orgs and is likely posted in Los Angeles.

After this we get to see a rare appearance from Kenny Campleman! Kenny is sitting doing Dianetics with one of the construction workers as the rest of them prep for an epic tug of war battle in the background. Kenny was one of the original members of the Apollo Stars (flute player) with LRH aboard the Apollo. After his star-studded musician days he was a security guard at the Int Base for years before being made into a dishwasher, then manufacturing, before landing in the Cine Division as a painter. He actually waved at me when I was driving by the Int base recently!

Looks like they won the tug of war battle as they all start clapping and cheering before we end up in an exploding volcano that turns into a plastic CD binder.

Thanks for that detailed rundown, Marc!

 
——————–

Camilla Andersson loses a thumb and gains her freedom

In part two of the videos she made with Karen de la Carriere, Camilla Andersson talks about the hazards of Sea Org life.

 

 
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Still seeking justice for Stacy Dawn Murphy

Two years ago today, Stacey Murphy, 20, died in the Withdrawal Unit at Scientology’s flagship drug rehab facility, Narconon Arrowhead, in eastern Oklahoma.

Robert Murphy, her father, is still seeking answers and accountability in his daughter’s death. Two years later, however, there’s still no sign of action from the local sheriff and prosecutor.

Murphy told us he is watching one sign of progress: We broke the news that Oklahoma’s multi-county grand jury is hearing evidence about insurance fraud at Narconon Arrowhead.

If news breaks about criminal indictments, we’ll be thinking of Murphy and his loss.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 18, 2014 at 07:00

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  • DodoTheLaser

    Camilla, is that a scar on your left arm?

    • KNMF

      Looks like a burn scar that bakers get.

      • DodoTheLaser

        My thought too.

  • Jimmy3

    For once, Hubbard was right. Most of my problems stem from my mother’s inability to get off the pot.

    • KNMF

      So it wasn’t only about shamrock after all.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Tony, Check the Dianetic’s title. One too many “moderns”.
    Its early.
    Its a Saturday.
    ;-)

    • Jimmy3

      Typo snitch! Is it always this quiet on Saturday mornings? Where is the peoples?

    • Observer

      Dianetics is extremely modern! It’s so modern and so far ahead of current society that it’s lapped us and is coming up behind us again.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** Saturday the 19th of July
    When there is a will, there is a way, the daily list is now available :
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FBq0uUHpf9H4j_3YvFs-mcMsz93wgx4MQH5vtHieh_c/pubhtml

    There might be a few hiccups that I am sure you will forgive me
    A few extra ads in Boston (of course), and many across California

    And the master list (please bookmark it in case of emergency)
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Ty Piglet

  • pronoia

    That was hard to listen to. My heart goes out to Camilla. Everyone deserves far better treatment than what she was subjected to. And her sister. Oh my, she sure is the good little scientologist. Way to off load your very own sister. Just buy her a one way ticket to the middle of nowhere.

    • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

      I worked in the Los Angeles base all the years that Camilla was there and I never knew how amazing she was or anything about her back story. No one ever talked about their history at Int Base but I never even knew she had been posted uplines at CMO Int! I am so happy to see her out and doing better now. Her story is so inspiring and I hope that some people in the LA Pac Base are hearing about this.

      I can vouch for everything she says about life on the base and the way the Church rips off the state for medical billings. It’s a whole scam they pull on the county. I want to especially note the awful torture of what it was like to work under Rebecca Christensen, nee Fear. Rebecca is the person in charge of the PAC Base Crew, meaning all the estates and grounds personnel. She is Sarah Fear’s sister, by the way (from the Dianetics video posted today). I think Rebecca likes to take her last name a little too seriously. Almost every few hours you could hear Rebecca shouting at the top of her voice at one of her juniors and she keeps them all in fear of her at all times. One of the things I used to dread was being anywhere near Rebecca or having to do any work for her. I don’t know what happened to turn her into that, but I never saw any real kindness or compassion from her. I hope someday she comes to realize that people don’t deserve what she does to them.

      • i-Betty

        Seriously? Rebecca’s maiden name was Fear? That is horribly ironic.

        • richelieu jr

          Rebecca, née Fear, will die a cunt (and that is a terrible insult to all the lovely c’s i have known and loved.).

  • Glom_of_Nit

    “Alexis, the daughter Hubbard had with his second wife, Sara ‘Betty’ Northrup, was born on March 8, so she would have been eight months old in November.”
    But, but… L.Ron never HAD a second wife!

    • i-Betty

      Pratchett fan perchance, Glom Of Nit? A most excellent moniker.

      • Glom_of_Nit

        I am, i-Betty, and thanks. Re-reading the Discworld Companion these days.

        • i-Betty

          I am a tragic fangirl. I have the maps, Nanny Ogg’s recipe book…I’ve even been out once or twice with TP’s daughter, Rhianna, who is a gamer (and super-respected gaming journalist who also wrote the script for the latest, and best, Tomb Raider game) like me.

          • Glom_of_Nit

            I bought and read every book over the course of a few months when I discovered Discworld a few years ago, never bought the extras, though.

    • rom661

      Oh, she was had, all right.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      (Deliver this in your best, overwrought, anguished “voice of concern:”

      If only he had talked to her, the ARC could have saved his second marriage!”

  • 1subgenius

    What the hell? She got Montalvoed?

    • LHS

      They don’t need no stinkin’ OSHA compliance!

  • Walter Mitty

    Congratulations to Chris Shelton! (picture – refresh)

    • http://mncriticalthinking.com/ Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol

      Thank you Walter! I really appreciate the shout-out! I’m hard at work right now on my next video, which I think everyone here will really like. Should be about a week or so until I have it done. In the meantime, I did publish a written article on why Scientologists seem to like to stick their heads in the sand: http://mncriticalthinking.com/2014/07/17/come-on-in-the-sand-is-fine/

      • i-Betty

        I like the cartoon you have used very much :)

        • richelieu jr

          Stop following me!

          • i-Betty

            Never! :)

      • Jgg2012

        You’re getting more views than Scientology.

    • i-Betty

      Wow, incredible! Huge congratulations, Chris. What an achievement in so short a time. You rock like a rocky thing and we love you :)

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      You deserve all that and much more.

    • valshifter

      great exposition, by the way Steve mangos video about CC has reached over 80k views.

    • Pepper

      Congrats Chris. I’m very happy to hear this news about your success.

  • 0tessa

    Hearing this story, I got the feeling Camilla was escaping from a Nazi concentration camp kind of thing. It’s not really the same thing, I know, still, the anguish, no medical care, imprisonment, loosing your health, working till you drop dead almost, the mentality of the guards i.e. the senior management. It is a labor camp. What else?
    President Obama is (rightly) worrying about the Ukriane, but he’d better also look in his backyard!

    • Jimmy3

      Don’t worry, there are no labor camps behind the White House.

      • 0tessa

        I know, his wife is looking after the vegetables I believe.

        • Jimmy3

          There are tents set up next to the WH gardens, but they’re not camps. FEMA sets up tents here and there just in case something happens. It’s no big deal. ;)

        • richelieu jr

          Vegetables? This is an outrage! Fascism!!!!

  • BosonStark

    And here I thought ARC stood for asinine, racemiferous, and cuckoopuffs.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Asshole rules and cockamamie
      Aardvark religion crashes
      Anteater rubbish cult
      Absolute ribald cursing
      Any riffraff claptrap
      Alligators ripping crocodiles

      • MaxSpaceman

        Absolutely Rubbish Clamatology

    • i-Betty

      Cuckoopuffs is my new best word.

      • Missionary Kid

        I-Betty, are you familiar with the American breakfast cerial, Cocoa Puffs? Their slogan is, “I’m cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.”

        That’s where cuckoopuffs comes from. My auto correct tried to make it two words,

        • i-Betty

          Ahh, they are Coco POPS (now even more chocolatey!) here :D

          • Sejanus

            Mmmmmmmm breakfast tech…lol

        • Gus_Cox

          Mmmm (slaver, drool), must go up the street to the market… get Cocoa Puffs… yummmmmm.

          • Missionary Kid

            Stop using Gus Cox’s avatar, Homer Simpson!

    • i-Betty

      Ass-hat rectum clowns.

  • i-Betty

    This has probably already been covered in yesterday’s comments but for anyone late to the party, like me, here is the latest on Casey Kasem:

    Kirotv – daughter is granted temporary restraining order preventing Casey’s wife cremating him – http://www.kirotv.com/ap/ap/entertainment/daughter-seeks-right-for-autopsy-of-casey-kasem/nghrW/

    Gawker (originates with TMZ, so possibly take with a pinch of salt) – Body has gone missing from the funeral home – http://gawker.com/casey-kasems-body-reported-missing-from-funeral-home-1607418238

    • D.Y.G.

      OMG, the clam daughter just won’t let it go. This is sick.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      The clamily that flays together stays together.

      • i-Betty

        Hur hur :P

    • Sejanus

      Jinkies sounds like a real mystery gang.
      Maybe the Scoobies could see about tracking down the body and also finding out who is behind the daughters odd behaviour.
      ……
      OLD MAN MISCAVIGE!!!!!

      Bah and I would have gotten away with it too if it weren’t for you meddling wogs!

  • D.Y.G.

    Camilla’s green card – I’m interested to know whether she’s had any problems since leaving the cult with USCIS. Sea Org recruits enter under R1 religious visas, I believe. I assume they then obtain employment-based green cards. I don’t know what happens when you leave that employment and have to take the time to find a wog job.

  • i-Betty

    Aww, Camilla apologises for describing her injury in graphic detail on video. The internet generation wouldn’t bat an eyelid but, of course, Camilla hasn’t been bombarded by violent images and movies for the past two decades. She’s adorable :) Wow, generous of her superiors to give her light duties for the rest of the day. No bed rest for you, slacker! And Rebecca Christiansen sounds delightful. An excellent scientologist.

    Good grief. I’m so relieved you are receiving proper medical care now, Camilla.

    Oh man, the thought of Camilla sleeping on top of her bag so she didn’t lose the last few things she owned in the entire world brought a lump to my throat.

    I don’t believe in much (withered, cynical heart that I have) but I believe the apartment complex owner was an angel, bless him.

    Camilla has an oven burn on her arm (ouchie!). As an avid cook I have the very same burns on one or both of my arms pretty much all the time. They are my war wounds and I am very proud of them.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      I second the praise for the apartment owner, refreshing.
      I also think it is telling how she describes a hostel as a ‘new’ kind of hotel. It shows just how isolated they are in the bubble.

      • KNMF

        I noticed both of those things also. I wish I could send the apartment owner a card or something.

        On one hand Hubbard says that man is basically good, on the other hand Scientology portrays the world outside Scientology as a wog cesspool.

        • http://www.rediscoverscientology.com/blogs/joe-howard.html Joe Howard

          Well, both are true but at different moments.

        • Lady Squash

          Double talk which leads to confusion are a mark of the psychopath.

      • Lady Squash

        Eivol, I found that interesting too. Hostels have been around for a long time.

    • Sidney18511

      Ditto on that apartment owner! He was a damn good man.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Well said, I betty.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Hubbard’s light philosophy doesn’t do it. Life needs a more of a nuanced approach.

    I am sorry about your situation, Camilla. I am glad you are out. I am glad you are speaking out. I remember others who had come to believe that everything that happened to individuals was their own fault. It all started with making the personal decision, zillions of years ago, to no longer be all powerful.

    You have been very brave, on both sides of Scientology.

    I imagine 42,000 ex-Scientologists hiding out in the same town in Montana, not one knowing that almost everyone else there is an escapee. They use Scieno dictionary words like enturbulate in conversation and everyone understands what they mean. They work twelve hour shifts and think they are getting off easy. They get minimum wage checks and think they have hit the big time. They don’t own TVs, read newspapers or go to the internet. But they are not abused.

    • i-Betty

      You have been very brave, on both sides of Scientology.

      Word.

    • Techie

      Mighty Korgo, remember, all of the laws of physics and all of mathematics can be derived from the ARC triangle. It is by no means light philosophy. It is heavy shtuff! Sadly somebody stole the actual workbooks where this was actually written down so all we have are vague platitudes today, you could almost call them tossed-off asides made up on the spur of the moment. But that would be unfair to the genius that is Ron. I’ve been out for ten years and I still finish eating long before anyone else at the table. Working on a Saturday (which is what I am doing now, except for writing a silly comment on this blog) comes naturally, and my boss is amazed I haven’t asked for a raise yet. He doesn’t know I make more in a month now than I made in some decades while under the lash. You can escape from the Sea Org but the Sea Org never really escapes from you.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Know what you both mean. Surviving scientology is exactly like surviving a near death experience. You appeciate every single damn thing in life and relish every minute. Oh, and toilet paper:)

  • Sejanus

    So then did Hubsies problems come from his birth mother, adoptive mother or were they a series of implants on his thetans?
    Sounds like everything was responsible for his actions…but him.

    Ironic his fascinations with the Cold War when much of his legacy in dealing with humanity and current Co$ “leadershit” mirrors much of the U.S.S.R.’s tactics in cutting itself off from the rest of the world to better control its people through fear, intimidation and lies.

    $cientology. We have an Iron Curtain!

  • Sejanus

    A.R.C.

    Astonishingly Repressed Cultists
    Amazingly Repetitious Clods
    Annoying Ridiculous Clams
    Always Regging Con-artists

  • MaxSpaceman

    Loved Camilla’s smiling near the ending, then when asked by Jeffrey, To any Sea Org staff thinking of blowing, what would you tell them — revealing her rediscovery of compassion, that in leaving Camilla found the wogs communicate Compassion and Caring. The humanity within, that people care, and help. Lovely hearing you say that, Camilla!

    • Observer

      The worst part is that wogs would only have to communicate minimal compassion and caring to stand in stark contrast to The Most Ethical People on the Planet.

  • Tony Ortega

    Updated the post: A press clipping shows Hubbard was cited for leaving Alexis in the car during a lecture in December 1950, not November.

    • jeff

      The hyperlink you put in the update just returns you to the same Bunker entry.

    • i-Betty

      Wow, that was quick!

    • i-Betty

      Jeff’s correct, Tony. The hyperlink is squiffy.

      • TonyOrtega

        Sorry. Can’t fix it until later today.

        • i-Betty

          Thanks, boss :)

  • rom661

    Ok, my favorite part of the Hubbard spiel is when he suggests that talking to your wife might improve your relationship. It is so damn stupid that the audience can’t help but laugh at him. Not with him, at him. He, of course, doesn’t get it.

    • MaxSpaceman

      • Observer

        Going by the cover art, I’d expect the book to advocate saving your marriage by exteriorizing your wife and child.

        • richelieu jr

          Well, at least exteriorizing the child into the car.

          Hey, it’s a start!

        • Gus_Cox

          Or lighting them on fire.

  • Xique

    I’m impressed with Camilla’s bravery in leaving after so many years. Nowhere to turn to and with so little, wow. A sad situation and yet so brave and beautiful. Thank you Jeffrey and Karen, and always Tony.

  • Snake Plissken

    So do ‘Fair Game’ and ‘Disconnection’ fail under Affinity or Reality?

    • rom661

      Unfortunately if you’re a Scientologist, Reality, notwithstanding their denials.

  • flyonthewall

    we got donuts this am and my youngest one is insisting on drinking water with them. Who has water with their donut!? Freakin sick, she must have some kind of prenatal engram.

    • Narapoid

      LMAO, prenatal engram…

    • 1subgenius

      Be sure to make her feel like a freak for doing so for the rest of her life.

      • flyonthewall

        u maybe have mommy issues 1sub?

        • 1subgenius

          My failed attempt at twisted black humor.

          • flyonthewall

            not at all, i chuckled :)

            • 1subgenius

              (Whew!!!)

            • flyonthewall

              hey 1sub….WIRE HANGERS! Did you pee yourself? LOL, that’s twisted black humor :)

      • KNMF

        I’m always helping my kiddos find their ruins. Then we have comm. Conditions Amends. Comm. More amends. New condition Comm. Once we get it all down in their folders, everything is theta.

        • 1subgenius

          Amazing you saw where I was going with this. (I’m not sure I did.)
          Yours is funnier.
          “….helping my kiddos find their ruins.”
          Hey, eternity is a long time.

    • D.Y.G.

      I would not drink milk as a child. I used to accidentally-on purpose knock over the glass every day.

      • flyonthewall

        Devious! Weird thing is, mine love milk. For whatever reason, water was the preferred beverage for donuts that day, weirdo. I didn’t mention that she drank the water from a cream dispenser, lol. Metal kind with a spout and hinged lid *shaking head* These are the fun times, I will miss them one day :)

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Camilla, what an amazing story of courage and the will to survive. Please write a book about your experiences, including how you healed yourself and prevailed after leaving the Sea Org.

  • IBBy

    I’ve watched Camillas video three times, and I am still just floored. The lack of compassion in scientology is on a sociopathic level. Slicing her finger on purpose… smh

  • Shamwari

    O/T – Tony… have I told you lately that I love you? And the Bunker… and this awesome community! And I am not even going to apologies for the warm and fuzzies! Have a beautiful day all. XXX

  • Espiando

    A demonstration of the ARC Triangle:

    A little while ago, my body communicated to me that yesterday’s food input was ready to become output. I achieved affinity with my body by going to the bathroom and seating myself on the toilet. The splash in the toilet and the voided feeling in my lower body demonstrated the reality that I had accomplished what I set out to do.

    Conclusion: Scientology is worth less than the shit I just had.

    • PRenaud

      ooohhh nice…. I could use this “inspiration” when I want to tell people how they make me sh*t…

    • Ardent

      Such a magnificent analogy!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Communication-Affinity-Reality just became disgustingly real to me.

      Now I am off to model my “Win” in clay…

      • richelieu jr

        “clay”

    • Sir_Real

      And pages from Dianutty or any other clam publication to wipe yourself with.

      • Espiando

        I’d rather have dingleberries hanging from my asshole than come into contact in any way, shape, or form with the printed word of Hubtard.

        • richelieu jr

          Oh, but the ORAL word, eh? There’s the rub!

          What red-blooded human could resist the dulcet tones of the cyst-headed, beaked-lipped BSer?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      In summary, Scientology is worthless.

    • Observer

      If only I had utilized the ARC triangle while preparing for last Monday’s colonoscopy!

    • richelieu jr

      You system strangley resembles Hubbard’s ‘research’ @Espiando1:disqus . Please come in for a sec-check at my earliest convenience!

    • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

      Actually you were in perfect communication with your body, very well done.

      -Ron

  • Panopea Abrupta

    I sit here, having made pancakes and a black raspberry coulis for my family for breakfast, tears streaming down my face.
    Camilla’s words, at the end of the video, to anyone still inside, are so powerful.
    People, most of us, are decent and generous and caring.
    Life is so beautiful despite all the twisted crap that belief systems impose on it.
    Love is still the most important thing.
    Thank you, Camilla, for all your courage.
    $cientology is a bastard invention of a sick mind.
    I am glad I will live to see it fall back into the slurry pit that birthed it.

    • MissCandle

      I agree with you.
      btw, if there are any leftovers, may I come for brunch?

    • i-Betty

      Truly and so beautifully spoken, and even more meaningful that you, Pan, the girl who makes us laugh so much, has been so moved by Camilla’s story.

  • California
    • Sunny Sands

      This is in the Tampa Bay area, where people are of course aware of scientology, but not necessarily court cases going on in other parts of the country.

      Even though DM is escaping a subpoena to testify at this time, just the fact this is reported in the Tampa Bay area informs the tens of thousands of TBT readers of the existence of this case. A multitude now knows the cherch stalks and harasses for years a new mother across county lines in Texas.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yes and the whales have to keep up with news, don’t they? They also have to work and network with wogs who definitely keep up.

    • Narapoid

      “Miscavige is protected by Texas “apex deposition doctrine,” which shields high-ranking executives from being pulled into burdensome, harassing depositions.” Burdensome, harassing depositions? Are you f ing kidding me?

      I wish that the fact that the former Chief Justice of the State of Texas and his brother was hired to protect Miscavige. Not the church. That is what needs to be heard as well. IAS donors need to understand that it is not just greed that brings the pressure for “up status”, but Little Nero’s fear. His fear to apply the ARC triangle and “make it go right”. Instead he hides behind the most expensive wog lawyers he could find. My God, the brothers Jefferson will probably be able to open a hospital.

      EDIT: Not a hospital, a palatial brothel.

      http://www.supreme.courts.state.tx.us/court/justice_wjefferson.asp

  • Narapoid

    Camilla, so glad you are out, thriving and speaking. Power on baby! Their disregard for your well-being is atrocious, (Rebecca Christianson: what a miserable little person.) and again, so glad you are free. And J, what excellent points to push the parasitic nature of Scio and the health care system. Workman’s Comp is so important and it’s abuse is a crime.

    True religions pay for medical treatments for people who AREN’T EVEN IN their church. They certainly don’t slough it off to others. Now, a profit-based corporation….

    Instead of taking care of sick children, the cult raises IAS money for lawyers to buy Miscavige’s way out and to harass. This damned thing cannot die fast enough.

  • 1subgenius

    Regardless of the exact date, I loathe Hubbard even more now for leaving an infant in a car.
    I can’t think of one redeeming feature to this asshat.

    • Narapoid

      A narcissistic dog turd with “important things to do” would think it would be the “greatest good”. Just leave the motor running with the heater on. Carbon monoxide poisoning? What’s that?

      • Ardent

        It’s an excellent way to cure radiation poisoning.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Ot, but this video answers your question abouf what staff members do all day. Five people in the Galley for over 1000 meals. Add in cleaning because there is no janitorial staff. Then there are 3 to 4 musters a day, roll call to keep tabs on you and get last minute barking orders. Usually there is call in or letter writing where you beg Anyone to come to the org. Then there is endless word;clearing of ore Flag orders, your orders od;the;day, bulletins, and if you are lucky, there’s an All Hands to work on some urgent promo project or filing. Where else can you learn such work skills as 2 minute showers or how to sleep standing up?

      • 1subgenius

        Actually it doesn’t answer the question fully. To me.
        It does not explain what all those people in Xander’s videos do. They all can’t be doing what you describe. There are hundreds of them.
        And what you describe is not generating the money to support their housing and food. It is overall a money drain.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The Victorians thought children should be seen but not heard.
    $cientology is obscene and must be hurt.

  • aquaclara

    Oh, Camilla, you saved your own life. Thankfully, you saw a real doctor, got the treatment you needed, and feel great now. To overcome so much and make it through-you are one tough, talented, sweet and smart cookie!

    I am sorry about the abuse that you suffered. But so proud of you for seeing that things were so wrong.

    Thank you for speaking up about how Scientology treats its members. Your story is one I hope every congressman gets to hear, and every judge. So that there will be no more victims.

  • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

    I haven’t limited myself in my relationships. Man is ment to be a Free Spirit.

    Ron, with affinity.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    OT (slightly) but new research suggests that there is a link between smoking and suicide. Since smoking is one of the few vices allowed (heck, endorsed) by LRH, this all has to be viewed with suspicion. After all, we’re dealing with the “research” of PSYCHS!

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279844.php

    From the article:
    “Previous research has shown that smokers are more likely to commit suicide than people who do not smoke. The factor driving this association was assumed by some researchers to be because people with psychiatric disorders are both more likely to smoke and more likely to commit suicide than the general population.

    However, the new study suggests that it may be smoking itself that increases suicide risk – possibly increasing the risk for psychiatric disorders, or making existing disorders more severe.

    ‘Nicotine is a plausible candidate for explaining the link between smoking and suicide risk. Like any other addicting drug, people start using nicotine to feel good, but eventually they need it to feel normal. And as with other drugs, that chronic use can contribute to depression or anxiety, and that could help to explain the link to suicide.'”

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    The day of reckoning cometh, Davey. Tick tock!
    Here’s the daily list, on Google Docs ’til the WWP server is back:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FBq0uUHpf9H4j_3YvFs-mcMsz93wgx4MQH5vtHieh_c/pubhtml

    ty Anon

  • TonyOrtega

    Update added to the post that I meant to add when it was first put up.

  • KNMF
  • Sunny Sands

    I can’t get past Hubbard leaving his baby in the car. The fact he was cited for it implies it was for a longer period of time and an especially young child. People used to leave their kids in the car while they went into a store in the 1950s, it was not a big deal. Not saying that was right. The fact the police got involved in this incident means it was pretty serious.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Good point. This was the era that doctors on TV told you to smoke more and teachers told you crouching under your wooden desk would protect you from falling nukes. And some wonder why Hubbard had a paying audience!

    • Pepper

      Sounds like he really loved Alexis. What a Dad.

  • ze moo

    I have to assume that the Oklahoma county sheriff was ‘safe pointed’ {or just bribed} to keep the Stacy Murphy case in the closet. Notice that the insurance fraud case in Georgia has not claimed any person, the ‘corporate’ entity of NarCONon Georgia settled with the prosecutor by turning their business liscense {did they pay back the insurance company?} and shutting down, but individuals were supposed to be indicted {at least that is what I remember}. The signals from Oklahoma have been mixed at best, I do hope some action is taken. I wonder what California and Arizona are doing about their ‘insurance’ problems? If they have NarCONons, they have fraudulent insurance billings.

    Lroon is such an asshat ARC, eat my dingleberries. The blovaiting buffoon can really spread it out though, can’t he.

    Ms. Andersson had the gall to just walk away from the salad bar with out finishing her work?? How will the dwarfenführer get his roughage??? Of course davy doesn’t stand in line and use a salad bar, too much below his station.

    All the current $cieno slaves need to hear Camillia’s story.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Thank you again, Camilla. It is difficult to listen to the details of the the great and horrifying experiment aka the sea org. Again, hope every single one goes to the IRS. Heard there is 9 more ?!

    I hope by now you have learned the medical science of that “filter system” just like you learned the facts of your headaches. That turning off of emotions is just one of the many symptoms of various mental disorders we all unfortunately experienced. That even includes “exteriorization”. You are doing a good service for those under the radar which seems to be the majority. The last to leave will be those who make money off this abuse.

    Sorry for what you suffered.

    • richelieu jr

      I’m a bit concerned about her mixing of the words ‘homeopathic’ and ‘real doctor’, but besides that…

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I thought the homeopath was while she was in sea org, but when she was out, she saw a real doctor.

      • Peter

        And, out of curiosity, what was your concern? There appeared to be a slur in there. For myself, I’ve had homeopathy treatments successfully a couple of time in my life and I’ve never been harmed by one. I can’t really say that for all the “real” doctors I’ve had.

        • richelieu jr

          My concern would be less out of the treatment causing harm in and of itself (though that’s not unheard o, in homeopathy or out) and more that letting the initial problem rest totally untreated might lead to further problems. Some people believe they are treated by homeopathy? Some by sugar pills, Both are wrong.

          Homeopathy reside sonthe barmy notion tat any healing element becomes eponentially more effective the more it is diluted– and in f act i to be sold there must be no detectable trace of the element in the ‘medicine’ at all! This is supposed to be because the is a ‘water memory’ (I am so NOT making this stuff up!) Kind of like L RON Hubbard had a conscience. Brilliant! In other worss, alla heorin addict has to do is throw his whole supply in the ocean, let it stir a bit and then shoot up with sea water (only a drop! careful, with that sort of dilution it is likely to be INFINITELY powerful! Ooooh!)

          Hey listen, I once knew a girl who swore her warts were cured bya Brazillian witch with a chicken bone. Hey, all I know is she had no warts. But I’m not about to go around touting the healing effects of Brazillian Chicken Bone Voodoo; Nor am I going to bow down before someone touting homeopathy because it didn’t hurt them.

          Its small step from this sort of hoodoo nonsense to Scientology auditing curing cancer– no wait– That would be silly, wouldn’t it?

          • Peter

            It’s quite obvious that your knowledge is limited to the naysayers. Homeopathy is quite alive and well in the UK, for instance, where the Queen and the Queen Mum have regularly used it for health for many decades. As for research, you’ll have to do your own if your mind isn’t already “fixed”. But your description of the processes involved really show your ignorance of what takes place and the vast amount of research which was and continues to be done in the field. As an actual fact, during the great flu pandemic which ravaged Europe and the US in 1918-19, deaths from homeopathicaly treated patients was about 1-2%. Deaths from allopathicaly treated patients was between 30-50%. Most used by the allopaths was aspirin, a much less “common” drug than it is today, which actually made the patient worse and often caused pneumonia and death. http://www.homeopathyoz.org/images/diseases/influenza1918.pdf

            • richelieu jr

              You bet: Naysayers=Every reputable scientist on Earth.

              And colour me amongst those who suspect the royal family may just be folks like you and me (though admittedly more like you than I on this issue) As for the rest: I’m French and we dallied with the Homeopathy dodge for while there, on the grounds that as longs it kept people happy and at work that it was a net benefit– Only it didn’t.

              Not sure that this discussion interests anyone but you and I though, so i’ll leave it there.

            • Peter

              “Every reputable scientist on Earth” = those who happen to agree with your point of view. Since I know with certainty that you’ve not checked with nearly that many…I, too, will leave it at that.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    “Fear is in the Hole.” Well of course it is, Marc. I sure hope you cleared up your MU’s so that poor woman can graduate! ;)

  • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Nat-lificent
    • flyonthewall

      call me a booger blaster…I’ll blast a booger so hard

  • KNMF

    Hubbard always likes to remind his flock that if they choose, they can use Dianetics to destroy people.
    He’s imbuing them with a sense of superiority and validating the use of his “tech” as a weapon.

    • richelieu jr

      Exactly.

  • Observer

    Such underappreciated genius! Why was Ron never appointed Secretary of State during the Cold War? Why, he could have just applied some Dianetics and the whole thing would have been over in a week!

    • KNMF

      duh! SMERSH , of course.

      • Observer

        *smacks forehead* Maybe Scientology can help me escape the trap of my stupid wogness …

        • KNMF

          Our enemies on this planet are less than 12 men…

        • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

          One always realizes no more than the next level up

          Welcome on board

          Ron, your commodore

          • Qbird

            self-titled commodore on deck! Hip hip hoorah!

            • Qbird

              Hey hey hey!! Where you goin’ Commander?!

    • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

      You are a very smart Individual. Can I intrest you for a book I wrote.

      -Ron

      • richelieu jr

        Or some swamped land in Florida?

        • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

          I think I can sell you a Bridge over yonder.

          -Ron

        • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

          Can I intrest you in buying a Bridge yonder

    • Lady Squash

      You are wickedly funny.

  • Mark

    I can just picture the scene back in 1950… (refresh):

    • Sir_Real

      Just when you think he couldn’t have been more of a selfish, narcissistic douchebag he moves yet a notch lower on the lowlife scale.

    • richelieu jr

      What you all patently fail to understand is that he can’t have had a baby because HE HAD NO SECOND WIFE! Why is that so hard for you to understand?

      It’s as easy as 1-_-3!

      • ze moo

        I think you need the square root sign, so the result is an irrational number.

        • Graham

          Eleventy million- the ultimate irrational number?

  • nottrue

    Rambling Ron you’re boring, you dont make any sense,and your voice sucks………

    • Observer

      Seriously, he was so full of gas I’m surprised he didn’t just float off into space.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yes, must!

        • Observer

          Did! :-)

    • Qbird

      1.) boring
      2.) makin’ no sense
      3.) dumbass voice sucks

      And that there is So True, “addressing 3 points to solve one” – MAIN POINT: DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS GUY.
      It aint’ good for ya.
      It is obvious that this is his actual asshole talkin’ — his lips shoulda known better.

  • http://scientoonery.tumblr.com/ Nat-lificent
  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Probably the only new thing to add, is that churches, in LA and Clearwater, will help escaping Sea Org members.

    Chuck Beatty
    866-XSEAORG
    412-260-1170

    PS: I put all the things I normally say here, on the YouTube comments section to Camilla’s part 2.
    Thanks so much Jeff and Karen for doing these videos!

    • aquaclara

      This is good to know, Chuck. The churches in both those locations must know something more than the politicians….and are not really able to be bought. I would love to see what Calvary Baptist thought of this stuff in downtown Clearwater all those years….added to all the other local churches right there. Ditto, LA.

      • richelieu jr

        They certianly were none too pleased when Hubbard came in under cover of the name ‘United Chucrhes’…

      • Sunny Sands

        I wonder about Peace Memorial Presbyterian church, the pink church on the next block from the Ft. Harrison hotel, if they’ve had any interaction with the cherch or scilons.

        • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

          Other Clearwater churches have offered help to escapees. Privately, discretely.

          I’m sure any church will take ANY ex Sea Org member who shows up on their doorstep!

          Shelters do, I’ve had long conversations and one ex Sea Org member posted of the help he got in LA from the shelter that helped him!

          The help ex Sea Org need, is short term, since Sea Org members are NOT slackers, they have the work ethic of workaholics!

          • D.Y.G.

            Churches and shelters are usually quite knowledgeable about what social services are available and how to sign up for them.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        The religious people who’ve asked to remain anonymous, will help. They wish no fight with Scientology, they just care as good religious should care about the poor and anyone suffering.

        Good churches deal with the poor and suffering people. Scientology has yet to have their “able” newly spiritualized improved members do something obvious and continuing, in the regions that Scientology’s largest churches are (Clearwater and LA)! They need, their “able” competent spiritually improved members need to give back!

        Society’s other churches are the ones helping Scientology’s staffs at times! The number of ex Sea Org who’ve returned or chosen other religions is a story to itself.

        I myself, when I was on the PAC RPF, when driving with my twin to the doctor for my twin’s doctor appointment, we rode the LA public bus, and we drove by the Glendale shelter run by a Protestant or Catholic church, and in either case, I often later ran the idea past myself to escape and go to them for getting back on my feet. Others have gone to shelters, they’ve told me so, in the LA region, after blowing.

        If family rejects one, or one wishes to spare family the tough decisions if they are Scientologists, the predicaments add up to make a Sea Org RPFer consider going to a shelter to start over.

        I eventually chose to just do the route out process, force the “line” in, in an acceptable way, and made it work, playing along with the rules as much as possible, and the transition for me was acceptable, but that’s me.

        There will always be those moments, like Camilla states, where superiors in the Sea Org, like Rebecca Christianson making the heartless ignorant “wrong indication” to Camilla, causing decisions like Camilla chose.

        People with physical ailments, contrary to Hubbard’s theory of PTSness and other Hubbard chosen ideas for what causes illness, preclude what Camilla and Maureen Bolstad Smith discover, that outside medical help DOES work.

        Camilla’s story is excellent for showing the long term problems with Sea Org, even as “good” as the PAC RPF and PAC Base closeness to the USC and UCLA hospital free care that Sea Org members and PAC RPF members can avail themselves of, if they play the game perfectly, but sometimes it’s impossible, when there are superiors like Rebecca Christiansen above one!

        Best to get out, “quit fast” and do real life!

        Real churches running shelters, and even local Christian denominations will unofficially help any Sea Org leaving Clearwater, privately, discretely, IS an option! I know from people phoning me, that LA shelters will always help!

    • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

      Chuck, you will be stopped in your tracks, Stupid diddy widdy’s like this IDA never acomplished anything

      And you are a dirty motherfucker too.

      -Ron

      http://i.ytimg.com/vi/8b8y01chxc8/0.jpg

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        She asked the right question that’s for sure!

        The answer to who Xenu was, explains Hubbard alright! Hubbard who wove his science fiction imagination into the Scientology religion! Hubbard concluding that it was not science fiction, but reality, and now Scientology followers learn to keep Xenu their secret!

        L. Ron Hubbard, is the creator of Xenu/Xemu.

        Xenu/Xemu is the imaginary ancient space leader whose all time and space biggest misdeed was labeled by Hubbard as the “4th Dynamic Engram!”

        Xenu’s terrible misdeed of long ago, 75 million years ago per Hubbard, that misdeed takes many of Hubbard’s secret Scientology “upper levels”, scientific exorcism pseudo-therapy called OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7.

        Five of the Scientology’s eight secret “upper levels” today deal with Xenu’s (Hubbard’s) 75 million year ago engram.

        Xenu is important to understand, and Scientology has Hubbard’s excommunication rules staring them in the face, if they dare tell the Xenu engram story!

        Glad you know the importance of Xenu!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Thank you,Chuck!

  • Kim O’Brien

    All this time , i could have just turned to LRH to keep my marriage together ..I needed to be treated well …and he needed to treat me like shit . If ONLY i had read LRH …but alas…no.

    • Jgg2012

      Or just cleared the words.

  • Truthiwant

    I remember being told back in 1986, by a Scientologist, that Dianetic auditing was so powerful that back in the ’50s the CIA wanted the exclusive use of it and they were afraid that Dianetic Technology might fall in to the wrong hands, like to the Russians. Hubbard didn’t trust the CIA and didn’t want his Tech used for ‘reverse procedures’ and this is one of the reasons that he hated the CIA.

    Jeez, what hogwash I believed back then!

    Isn’t it ironic that about the only people who are keeping Scientology in business today are the Russians!

    • ze moo

      Hubbtard spent alot of the 50’s ‘turning in’ ‘communists’, who were mostly those who annoyed him or tried to complete with Diuretics. The CIA has fallen for a lot of crap over the years, ‘Remote Viewing’, ‘psychics’ of various types, watch ‘the men who stare at goats’ for some fun with that woo.

      http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/table.html

  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    Last December 18th Hubbard was fined $50 by Municipal Judge Kenneth Holaday

    That’s the court date, but it doesn’t say when the offense occurred.

    • TonyOrtega

      Good point.

    • Truthiwant

      Piece of trivia…That fine, in today’s money, would be the equivalent of about $500.

    • richelieu jr

      That was backthen! Imagine what would happen today? He’d be front page news.

      • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

        Especially since he’s been dead for all these years!

  • Jgg2012

    “If your marriage sucks, talking to your wife might actually help. Ya think?” Given that LRH had 3 failed marriages and Davey hasn’t been seen with Shelly in years, I’m sure Scientology helps marriages.

  • Truthiwant

    • richelieu jr

      I have this recurring dream– I’m laying down, and hundreds of eyes are fixed on me while some bullshit artist spouts a bunch of nonsense…

      • ze moo

        Did you fall asleep in the recliner while Fox News was on?

        • Jgg2012

          Yes, listening to Scientologist Greta Van Susteren.

          • ze moo

            Use the Brain Bleach……

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    I wonder if the cult will need to provide health insurance for their Sea Org (employees? volunteers? slaves?) under the Affordable Care Act. It does not meet the criteria to be on the very short list of religions that are exempt from the law. If they are employees, they will need to be covered or the cult will pay a penalty. That could be costly starting next year…

    Seriously, I have always wondered if Sea Org are employees. Does anyone know if they give these folks W-2s at the end of the year as employees, or 1099s as independent contractors? I have heard they pay into Social Security so I think they probably give W-2s and that the Sea Org would be considered employees by IRS.

    • Techie

      I’ve been wondering the same thing – they do get W2s but they never turn in a tax return, so where would they report that they do not have health insurance? Would the IRS just send them a notice that they owe a fine? Or should they all just sign up for Medicaid? If they all had to pay a fine for no health insurance that would shut down Scientology right away, very few of them could pay such a fine.I’m not a big fan of the ACA but if it forces the Sea Org to get medical care for their slaves I am all for that! It was one of the big reasons I escaped too. They would probably have had to amputate both of my legs if I hadn’t gotten real care after I left.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        It has always bothered me that they dump Sea Org onto public clinics, including taxpayer funded abortions. So I have been wondering if they will now finally have to insure them.

        If they get W2s then I think they are employees. The law says that large employers (over 100 workers or some such) will need to offer health insurance to any employees who work more than 30 hours a week, I think starting next year – it is part of the health reform law but hasn’t gone into effect yet. Otherwise the company will owe a penalty to the IRS. It is up to the company to report it to the IRS.

        The individual won’t owe a penalty (they earn so little I am sure they are eligible for Medicaid). The law is trying to move the onus to the big company, not the low paid worker. So it is the cult that will owe the penalty to the IRS.

        • Techie

          That’s right, I forgot about the employer mandate – looks like that may be delayed indefinitely but if it ever does kick in the Orgs are in trouble! Good luck telling a judge that an SO member is working less than 30 hours. You would think that Dave would just kick in some kickback from his IAS billions but you would be thinking very wrongly if you did. We used to say “S*** rolls downhill” meaning if you tee off the boss he will make it your problem, not his. The corollary is that gold flows uphill. The orgs pay the SO orgs and the SO orgs pay Int. There may be lots of money somewhere but the average SO member will never see any of it unless there is a special pet project of Dave’s that needs to be funded from special sources, like the iDeal-with-it Orgs. I can just imagine the look on Dave’s face if he ever gets a proposal to spend “his” money on the health care of the average SO member. The proposal and the proposer will be out of his office before you can say CICS. If this ever actually happens it could be the legal “in” that brings down the whole edifice. They can’t keep going without cheap labor. It’s all they’ve got.Finally a breath of hope. Camilla’s out and the IRS is coming for the deadbeat orgs some day. May it be soon!

      • Peter

        If I’m not mistaken, the W-2s show income far too low to be reported. And I’m sure that the czerch doesn’t encourage and connections with the IRS, in any case.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          I agree the Sea Org member income is probably less than the IRS reporting threshold which is $10,000 for a single individual. So they are off the hook for paying taxes (and thus, because they don’t need to file taxes, they are also off the hook for paying a penalty under the individual mandate that we all have health insurance).

          But the employer has a separate mandate to provide health insurance, a mandate that is scheduled to go into effect for next year. And doesn’t the cult have to file the W-2s with IRS? So the IRS would know how many employees they have.

  • Pierrot
  • Mark

    “Book One” (refresh):

  • Mark

    “Book Two” (refresh):

  • Mark

    “Book Three” (refresh):

  • Mark

    “Book Four” (refresh):

  • Observer

    *pic*

    • Graham

      ‘You are only three or four hours from taking your glasses off for keeps”. Someone needs to tell Her Royal Highness, Governor of the Valley Nancy Cartwright.

      • D.Y.G.

        Her spectacles are are so think they distort her eyes. No OT powers here.

        • Sir_Real

          She looks like Miss Piggy in spectacles and phony sea-farin’ type hat. Scary old wench.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Just think what good came out of her donating 10 million to a charity that wasn’t a scam

        • Sejanus

          I still say she looks like Garth from Waynes World

    • Jimmy3

      I’m sure no one here will complain about LRH’s words being cut off. :)

    • SNAFU

      “Better get a bucket, I’m gonna throw up”

      • Observer

        I was wondering when someone was going to recognize the body!

      • Gus_Cox

        One thin little after dinner mint? It’s waffer thin…

  • Sir_Real

    This little jewel from Jeffrey Weiss’ blog in the Dallas Morning News was posted on here yesterday in a smaller, black & white version. Not trying to upstage anyone but here it is in all its glory (I had never seen it before so don’t know if its just another oldie or not lol)

    • Observer

      Love it!

  • NOLAGirl

    I don’t know if someone has already posted this, so I apologize if it’s a repeat but this is so disgusting. A 92 year old man “needs to get his ethics in”? These repugnant, shameless, morally bankrupt lowlifes make me sick to my stomach.

    $cientology: Raping the word “ethics” for decades.

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/some-church-fundraising-accounting/

  • nottrue

    Geraldine”Do I look brainwashed to you? How dare you”………..

    • Kim O’Brien

      she looks like shit …holy cow .

    • nat-lificent

      Does she “create” it in her head?

    • Skallene

      When is the divorce final?

  • Sunny Sands

    Here’s a pic of the Coachman Building in Clearwater today. The new street level windows have various scenes of Clearwater history, 1 or 2 windows are about scientology. (refresh)

    Lots of sea org were in uniform scurrying around on the streets, and the Flag busses were running. Usually Saturday they get some time off to do laundry and go to Walgreens, but today it seemed everyone was working.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      From
      http://www.scientology [dot] org/david-miscavige/flag-coachman-grand-opening.html

      “The exhibit features photographs, informational displays and artifacts that trace the city’s heritage from its earliest days to the present. Among the many Clearwater milestones the exhibit depicts are:
      -The city’s meteoric growth during Florida’s land boom of the 1920s;
      -The 1948 move by the National League’s Philadelphia Phillies of its spring training headquarters to Clearwater, where the team continues to train each year;
      -And the penning of the legendary rock hit “Satisfaction” by Keith Richards and Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones during a stay at the nearby Fort Harrison.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Also this text I find hilarious…
        “Through meticulous restoration, the Church preserved the Coachman Building’s original features, including its distinctive brick façade, its signature Flemish bond pattern and arched corbels at the upper floors.”

        I can imagine the clams gathering and chattering “Just look at those corbels” …”do I see Flemish bond”…”yes, I believe you are correct”.

        • Sunny Sands

          It’s notable none of this has appeared in the Tampa Bay Times. The TBT has new offices within walking distance of this building.

          • Eivol Ekdal

            from the same page they list recent accomplishments…

            Completion of the Coachman Building signifies another step in the ongoing expansion of the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, including:
            Dedication of the 377,000-square-foot Scientology cathedral—the Flag Building;
            Completion of an 11-month, million-man-hour project to restore the 267,000-square-foot Fort Harrison religious retreat;
            Dedication of the 38,000-square-foot Fort Harrison Park, a public walking park adjacent to the Fort Harrison retreat;
            The grand opening of the 172,000-square-foot Oak Cove, a 13-story religious retreat for visiting parishioners;
            Top-to-bottom renovation of the 132,000-square-foot Sandcastle advanced religious retreat;
            Renovation of the 44,500-square-foot Osceola religious retreat;
            Construction of a 139,000-square-foot, three-story parking facility to serve the Flag Building and the future L. Ron Hubbard Convocation Center—set to span an entire city block;
            Opening of an eight-building apartment complex to provide housing for Church ministry;
            And renovation of an additional 15-building complex also for the ministry.

            …notice the out tech use of semicolons !

            • Elar Aitch

              no mention of Superpower?

            • Eivol Ekdal

              The refer to it as “the 377,000-square-foot Scientology cathedral—the Flag Building”

            • Observer

              “Cathedral” “religious retreat” “advanced religious retreat” “ministry”

              Now maybe I’d buy

              “Fleece joint” “fleecing retreat” “whale fleecing retreat” “fundraising organization”

              *pic*

        • Mark

          “Meticulous restoration” my arse! Looks like they’ve stuck cheap dyed blocks on there without even bothering to get them flush:

          • Sunny Sands

            Do you think that is a light or a surveillance cam?

            • Mark

              Looks like an uplighter to me – it should show up the shoddy brickwork even better at night!

            • Sunny Sands

              OK, thanks (refresh).

            • D.Y.G.

              One of my favorite things to do when viewing pics of Scientology buildings is find the surveillance cameras.

            • flyonthewall

              kind of like Where’s Waldo?

          • flyonthewall

            Wish Pharaoh was around to show these Scilons how to get the most of their slaves. Miscavige is so nouveau maître esclave. It’s just embarrassing really. *Yawn*

      • Techie

        The Fort Harrison is where Mick Jagger “couldn’t get no satisfaction”? I heard that story before, had no idea it was actually true. If so, the current tenants have continued the time-honored tradition of screwing their customers, as immortalized in a legendary rock and roll anthem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJUVt-nTS28

        • Jimmy3

          Keith Richards recorded the guitar riff there and then fell asleep. They wrote the song around it later on.

    • Mark

      “Preserving Clearwater’s Heritage” indeed! “Fossilizing Clearwater’s Prospects” would be closer to the truth. I’ll give it one winter with condensation inside those windows before the displays become the usual peeling, dusty, fly-spotted eyesores your average Idle Morgue looks out on the world with…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Do they cover All of Clearwater’s history, like:

      http://i.imgur.com/0T68XaR.jpg

      or

      http://i.imgur.com/NusC5FX.jpg?1

      • Observer

        Man, I *wish* Treebeard and the Ents would come storming in and demolish Flag!

  • N. Graham

    A tad off-topic but, “Scamatology Leader’s Missing Wife Shows Up and Beats the Living Xenu Out of Him.”
    http://www.thespoof.com/news/magazine/13101/scamatology-leaders-missing-wife-shows-up-and-beats-the-living-xenu-out-of-him

    • NOLAGirl

      “The diminutive dictator of Scamatology, who often beats up his staff, learned what an ass beating was really like.”

      Bahahaha!!

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Alexa update for July 19: *refresh for images*

    Tony: US rank #18,996 – down 579 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 22,859)
    Scientology: US rank #53,739 – up 1,447 from yesterday. (Average rank last 3 months: 63,220)

    Difference: 34,743 – 2,026 less than yesterday. (Average difference last 3 months: 40,361)

    Clicks from India – 9,5% today.

  • Jimmy3

    Just when I thought LRH couldn’t have been more of a scumbag, it turns out he was also one of those assholes who leaves their kid in a car. Of course. Mankind’s Greatest Friend, ladies and gentleman.

    • Graham

      L Ron Hubbard *is* The God-Awful Father.

    • jeff

      Suspended 10 day jail sentence. Damn, they had their chance and they blew it.

    • Skallene

      He didn’t just leave his kid in the car, he left the 8 month old child in the car for hours and hours. In the 50s I can remember being left in the car when I was 3 or 4 and being told not to get out of the car, but the car was parked in the shade, windows left open, and stuff to play with. And that was for only for 20 or 30 minutes while Dad did his shopping. Then he bought me the move marvelous hamburgers in the world.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Re-post alert.

    The original vid had 3250 views and 100 comments.
    They are gone from youtube now. But not from the people who viewed and commented.
    Congrats to RTC for another major foot bullet.

    Please give it some love.

    “Published on Jul 18, 2014
    OSA INT and the CULT extremely embarrassed at a 30 year veteran talking about atrocities inside, cooked
    up a “privacy complaint” of a photo used of an older Sea Org member in Version one.
    So here’s the re-do without that picture. 11 more sizzling Camilla Videos to follow.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_HmfyfxKnk&feature=share

  • N. Graham

    Ok, does LRH really think this is earthshaking info?-ask your wife how her day went, talk to her…etc. Are the people laughing at that spot because LRH is an idiot? Is it that nervous laughter you hear when someone doesn’t want to ACK someone? Or is that laughter that was dubbed in because it sounds like “knowing laughter?”
    What is it with humor in the cult? They laugh at LRH absurdities and that’s it! And their “comedy troupes” are the lamest of many lame productions. That’s a lot of lameness!
    Are they not laughing at his Russia/Commies vs. US solution because they are in awe as to how hubristic LRH is? At least that’s what I like to think.

    • Jimmy3

      The laughter in LRH’s lectures and in Scientology speeches always puzzles me, too. It’s so awkward. Sometimes it comes when LRH is clearly not kidding, but the crowd laughs anyways and LRH plays off it as if he were kidding.

      The best explanation for this is that it is a forced laughter that causes a chain reaction of stupidity. When one person chuckles, others want to seem like they get it, too, so they chuckle as well. They have to seem as if they’re “in the know” and in on the joke, even when it makes absolutely no sense and is not even remotely funny.

    • Espiando

      You know what? Thinking about it, LRH might have been a little bit serious. He’s talking to an audience that would have been born in the 1910s and early 1920s to parents from the Victorian Era. The way they were raised, it was the man walking in from work, the wife asking how his day was, and there was no reciprocation. This carried over in to the next generation (I don’t think I ever heard my father, born in 1927, ask my mother, born in 1933, how her day was).

      In 1954, four years after Hubbard’s speech, this attitude was still considered common enough to be fodder for a Warner Brothers cartoon: http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon/5303-Wild_Wife.html.

      We might make fun of it today, but attitudes then were different. He might have been telling some of the guys in the audience to do something they just weren’t doing.

  • D.Y.G.

    It’s obvious Betty signed up to pick lettuce in Yuma Arizona with John McCain for $50 an hour.

    (You can’t do it, my friend)

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology wants to rule the world, a con quest.

    $cientology: we diss honesty.

    In fishing, there is a kind of net called a seine net.
    It is not used by $cientology.

    With it’s emphasis on cheesy glitzy sets, strobes and bad loud music,
    a look that is a cross between the Third Reich and Vegas,
    one could say the $cientology aesthetic needs anaesthetics.
    The endless volutes are as con-voluted as Lord Hubris in full spew.
    LilFiveOne is the King of Kitsch and Lord of All that is Louche.
    With his flashy motorbike, wise guy’s lies and vulgar office, he betrays all the
    arrogance and ignorance of the Nouveau Riche.
    There is more culture in yogurt.
    Though he is constantly flensing whales, he probably thinks “Moby Dick”
    is some venereal disease you could catch on Hollywood Boulevard.
    With his ignorance of science, I’ll bet he reckons carbon dating is some
    new trend out on the edges of the Interwebz.

    I found a variant of a Stones song about LilFiveOne and his bosom buddy:

    Goodbye booby Cruise, Dave.
    Who could hang shame on you
    When you chain with every new day.
    Still I’m gonna diss you.

    • flyonthewall

      Are you ever going to collect these into a coffee table book of some kind? I would like an autographed copy plz!

    • Peter

      Marvelous plays on words. Most commendable!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Donald Fagan was Just crooning his Ruby to me yesterday (I use music therapy along with my aquatic physical therapy). Booby Cruise …. hahahaha. Love it.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        One of my favourite covers of it:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI3HU-GCNg0

        Glad I made you smile xxx

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Tks, very contemplative, poetic. Would work better in a reflective pool than a work out pool:) I even tried punk once just to tell Howdy I tried, but too jerky. I looked like I was having a spaz seizure.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            0

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Here’s my CL Red-X Battle station, with small boy :)
              He thinks LilFiveOne should be jailed.
              I think he’s right.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Real beauty and great porch too…doin’ it right

            • Observer

              Adorable AND smart!

          • Qbird

            Here’s a song for you Hole that might could would be fun in a lovely swimmin’ pool workin’ it out & about & makin’ for fun Hole ~ http://youtu.be/BxHpCGOBnyk

    • Baby

      ” There is more culture in yogurt. ”

      Brilliant! BRAVO..beautiful words Pan..

  • DodoTheLaser

    If you did not see it yesterday, OT8 Peter Gillham got declared an SP. It’s pretty huge. THDNE and Aegerprimo made some great comments on it yesterday. ESMB link: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?36485-Did-Everyone-Know-But-Me-That&p=948189#post948189

    • Panopea Abrupta

      As THDNE said here, yesterday, this is where the beast begins devouring itself.
      When the whales turn on each other and have money and dox and are litigious,
      the fall-out will make Davey hope Hubris knew his shit about radiation.
      The accountant may be as big a blow (in both senses of the word) or bigger –
      decades of dox.
      And follow the money is generally a good idea for a little forensic detective work
      on a scam of this size.
      Al Capone went down for tax-evasion.

      • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

        Grate on their scrannel pipes of wretched straw,
        The hungry sheep look up, and are not fed,
        But, swoll’n with wind and the rank mist they draw,
        Rot inwardly, and foul contagion spread;

    • Jimmy3

      where is aegerprimo?

      • aegerprimo

        OH hai! I am in the process of jumping ship to another hospital and relocating…. My time here has been sporadic lately, and will be.

        • Jimmy3

          Oh hai! There you are! Best luck with the transition. :)

  • http://www.rediscoverscientology.com/blogs/joe-howard.html Joe Howard

    Faith Schermerhorn’s uncle is none other than Jim Brown, the greatest running back in history. And Faith is pretty great herself. Very cool lady. Her husband was posted in PAC and they never saw each other and Faith rarely saw their kid. Nice family life. Very sad to hear about Jennifer Champagne.

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

    here’s an Enty blind item reveal… this time ‘kindness’… considering the hundreds of millions her ex has has he done anything even remotely similar to this? [pic]

    • Observer

      What a lousy Scientologist!

      • jeff

        Really, that Katie is so out-exchange.

      • Missionary Kid

        She should be proud of that. I would. :-))))

    • richelieu jr

      Did she learn nothing from her Scientology instruction?!

      SEC-CHECK!

    • Jimmy3

      That’s a strange blind item, isn’t it? Usually blind gossip isn’t so positive. She flew 100 people she met while volunteering at a food bank to Disney World and paid for everything. She’s a good person. Why conceal her name in this story?

      • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

        it’s what Enty does

    • jeff

      Her ex promotes the purif for firefighters and attacks Brooke Shields for treating her post-partum depression…I’m sure Ron would approve. Although Tom has 3 ex-wives, while Ron only had two (though he allowed his third to go to the slammer for him).

    • DodoTheLaser

      Nice! That reminds me this. Refresh.

  • D.Y.G.

    I’m still thinking about Camilla pt.2. I think the kids who quit school to join the Sea Org would have an even tougher time getting it together if they left because they don’t even have a GED. It’s still workable though. They could work two or three minimum wage fast food jobs while they’re working on an education and still be better off than the Sea Org.

    If I were an employer, I would put “Sea Org” right up there with “military” on a resume’. You all are some disciplined people.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    ARC: arrogant rapacious con
    amoral ripoff comedian
    asinine ridiculous corrupter
    a-list robbing criminal
    SP : sweet perfume
    Spread a little sweet perfumeness:

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    Afraid you will lose your eternity if you jump off the Bridge?
    1-866-X-Sea-Org

  • i-Betty

    My love and thoughts are with Robert Murphy and his family. Stacey would have been so proud of her father for the way he has refused to give up the fight for justice.

    #justiceforstacey

  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush
  • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

    Scientology explained by Pink, She is an OT 9 maybe 10

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDKGWaCglRM

    • Sir_Real

      If you need help, girlfriend, just remember to stay the hell away from NarcoCON or ANTHYING “based on the teachings (sic) of L. Ron Hubbard” … damn it sickens me to even type his name.

      • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard

        Scientology can help you with that.

        • Sir_Real

          Don’t listen to him, Pink! RUN GIRL, RUN!!!

    • jeff

      Well, she does have a good part of “pinks and grays” in her name.

  • valshifter

    Miscavige must find himself on a dilemma, on one side Hubbard said “always fight and attack” and on the other side it said on one of the lectures in typical Hubbard way of double talker, “if you fight you just helping solidity, things become more solid” so what’s a little dictator to do?

    • Barbara Angel

      Man up and Confess his crimes would be a good place to start.
      Unfortunately the little turd hasn’t got the balls to do so.

      • Missionary Kid

        Better yet, substitute a regular rope for a bungee cord.

  • http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/ L.Ron Hubbard
  • http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/ media_lush

    I thought this was a bit of a non-story when it came out so didn’t bother to post it… but kudos to Shobiz411 for putting some good old Tommy Girl stank on it:

    Tom Cruise: Sucker Punched by Sumner Redstone’s Viacom in Novel About Katie Holmes Marriage

    http://www.showbiz411.com/2014/07/18/tom-cruise-publisher-of-nasty-novel-owned-by-his-mission-impossible-studio

  • EnthralledObserver

    In Camilla’s video there’s talk about $ci abusing their Worker’s Comp insurance… but how do they satisfy any health and safety issues the insurance might bring up – especially regarding the sheer quantity of injuries and the over worked/under rested. Obviously they tell lies about it… but doesn’t this all ring alarm bells in the insurance companies anyway?

    • Ruby

      I totally thought that too, EnthralledO. There are a lot of regulations for workers comp. For one, posting notices to “employees” to the issues of their rights, etc. concerning workers comp. Do they do that? I would be interested to hear from Chris Shelton as to whether he ever saw that at any SO location.
      And, employees? Does workers comp apply to religious “volunteers”?
      Edit: oh, and since the amount paid to workers comp by the employer is determined off the payroll sum…no wonder they keep it very low!

    • aegerprimo

      Somehow the Co$ has escaped OSHA standards as well. The surface has been scratched many times with the disregard the Co$ takes in the safety of its staff members and Sea Org. Jillian Schlesinger’s story video by Karen and Jeff – she describes the toxins she was exposed to and how the Co$ passed inspections by faking safety. Jenna Miscavige Hill described her book “Beyond Belief” how she and other children were used as slave labor in unsafe working conditions. The Co$ keeps hiding behind it’s guise as a religion. I personally was exposed to blue asbestos along with hundreds others aboard the Freewinds during the first renovations and refit before its maiden voyage in 1988.

      The Co$ keeps getting away with this. It is toxic and pollutes is so many ways.

      • aegerprimo
      • noseinabk

        Discussing the osha thing with Mr. Nose who deals with them and he thinks it is a dead end. These workers are far under the radar, unlike big companies they are among many un-licenced workers who would need proof of unsafe standards and the ability to provide proof and pay for a lawyer.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Well – there’s your problem, the regulating body who is supposed to be protecting the vulnerable aren’t doing their jobs. Why should the victim always need to have the evidence and the cash to prove they’ve been victimised?
          OSHA should investigate – otherwise what are they being paid for?

  • Sejanus

    Most con artists tried to sell people the Brooklyn Bridge.
    Hubbard managed to up the game and sell them an invisible fake one.

  • Observer

    A couple of hours ago Camilla posted an update in the comments of the story accompanying her first video.

    http://tonyortega.org/2014/07/16/camilla-andersson-goes-public-after-29-years-in-scientologys-inner-elite/#comment-1493679475

    • 1subgenius

      Curious as to the “flaw” she refers to that allowed the cult to censor the video.

      • Karen de la Carriere

        I used a photograph of Camilla with an older lady. This older lady works in the kitchen and is nowhere near the Internet but OSA INT used her to file a “Privacy” complaint for her pciture being up on YouTube in the video.
        Office of Special Affairs stalk me internet wise hanging on every word I say filing and cross indexing it (Kathy O”Gorman) watching every video to see how they can reverse engineer YouTube rules and regulations to get a video taken down.
        I will immediately edit and re-post any takedown video. Have had 4 takedowns with this YouTube “Privacy” rule. YouTube alerted me of the Privacy complaint, so I pro-actively deleted it and seamlessy uploaded the replacement.
        I will punish OSA INT for this nuisance and it will cost them 100 more videos.
        Expect 2100 videos and counting.

        • noseinabk

          Karen, one day Osa will get a clue and realize that you can not hide from the Internet. Even our never in community mirrors these videos .

        • Espiando

          I keep having this vision of all of those OSA bitches like Kathy O’Gorman, Linda “Zombie Pussy” Hamel, and Kathy True as these 1950s housewives sputtering noxious gossip between themselves over backyard fences while hanging their still-dirty laundry to dry. Is that the image you really want to have if you’re a sooper-sekrit intelligence service?

          • DodoTheLaser

            But it’s “for the greatest good”…

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          Karen, you and Mr. Swift do some really excellent work that’s really engaging and informative and probably takes up a huge part of your free time. That’s a big deal even without OSA mouth-breathers lurking. Much appreciated.

          Regarding the cyber-stalking, there’s a lot you can do to beef up your electronic security and keep the goons out for very little (if any) cost. I’d start by checking out the TOR network and its ip masking system which is called Vidalia. It feeds your web traffic through a series of randomly selected computers all over the world while masking your ip address. It can theoretically be compromised, but not by anything Co$ is swinging around. There’s a lot of other freely available armor out there to keep your work uncompromised. Keep up the good work!

        • 1subgenius

          Thanks for taking the time to provide the information.
          Pretty pathetic that they still think they can stop the inevitable.
          You are handling it perfectly.

          • Missionary Kid

            Good work with the sign on the Detroit “Ideal Org” that was published in the Sunday funnies! Is that sign metal?

            • 1subgenius

              I really can’t think of a good reason why you asked that question.

            • Missionary Kid

              The sign looks very durable in the picture, and I thought that it looked like it was wired to the doors. Of course, the photo is pretty washed out.

              I can imagine that it will be taken down soon, it not already. It should be posted at the entrance of every Co$ facility.

        • aquaclara

          Karen, you show them! These are terrific videos exposing the truth in Scientology. No matter how hard they try to keep their nasty secrets buried, the facts are getting out. Thanks for the tremendous work. And please give Camilla and Jillian big huge hugs from all of us here.

    • noseinabk

      Thanks. I am playing catch up after vacation and can not keep up. Is the video above the first one of Camilla?

      • Observer

        No, the first one was a few days ago.

  • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

    Oh look, someone’s trying to find Hubbard’s submarines…

    Local researcher seeks funds to help find submarine sunk off the coast of Oregon

    • DodoTheLaser

      If they won’t find any, they should buy one from Japanese submarine junk yard
      and get Freewinds transport and sink it there. Because Hubbard would never lie.

      • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

        Apparently they’ve been looking for it since 2007. *sigh* Hubbard only succeeded in sinking time and effort, continuing to today.

        • DodoTheLaser

          The only place they need to look:

          Ron The Submarine Slayer
          http://www.xenu.net/archive/ronthenut/submarin.htm

          • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

            There’s no obvious Scientology connection with this group. (Although apparently Scientologists look for it too.)

            • DodoTheLaser

              Point taken. Makes me wonder though, who else would make such an uninformed decision, you know? I mean, someone is paying for all this searching. They should search for the missing Malaysian plane instead, not imaginary submarines.

            • http://umbraxenu.no-ip.biz/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page RMycroft

              Apparently it’s a local legend, complete with a classic Men in Black story:

              “His wife told me that within days of talking to divers about salvaging the sub, three people in suits claiming to be from the State Department showed up at their house and told him they knew about the wreck and they were not to visit the site again or tell anyone about it,” Wallis said.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Yeah, okay. Seems legit. Haha!
              I see no reason for any cover-up of such a discovery.
              More smoke and mirrors. Seriously, who’s funding this?

            • DodoTheLaser

              From 2007: “They’ve spent $20,000, most of it their own money, and have made 10 diving excursions.”

            • DodoTheLaser

              Even if it happened, and they will find it (they have a blurry pic of something),

              this will change nothing, as far as Hubbard lying about Clear and OT levels.

              But like you said in their comment section:

              “It sounds like a wild goose chase. According to Imperial Japanese Navy
              records from the war, they didn’t lose any subs that could have been
              sunk in the area.”

              Is there a link to those records, btw?

  • Pierrot

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  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ RED X +–+RED X +–+ RED X *** FunSunday the 20th of July

    The Daily list for today has ben updated. Not many blues today, RE-lag day.
    Boston needs our attention and Dodo will be pleased that Cincinnati is CLEAR
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FBq0uUHpf9H4j_3YvFs-mcMsz93wgx4MQH5vtHieh_c/pubhtml

    The full master list
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    TY Chutney (sorry about the duplication, speak about trying to be more discreet!)

  • DodoTheLaser

    “Last December 18th Hubbard was fined $50 by Municipal Judge Kenneth Holaday for leaving the
    baby unattended in his automobile while he delivered a lecture. A 10-day jail term was suspended.”
    http://xenutv.com/print/laexaminer-kidnap-022651.htm

    These days, this would be all over the news. Ron was setting a great example of a good father and Clear/OT.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Wonder where little hubbard is now? Jesus, we all know hot it get in,LA. What an idiot!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Who’s in your avy, Todd?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Kenny Kimes

          • DodoTheLaser

            Why? I looked him up.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I knew him as a kid and write to him in prison. There is a great deal more to the case of his psychotic mother. His mother was the second person in the US ever tried for,”slavery.” she manipulate her son and he paid with his life.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Whoa. Thank you for your reply. I begin to see where you are coming from with that avy.

  • i-Betty

    These videos wouldn’t be nearly so bearable without Marc’s brilliant anecdotes. How does he remember all this stuff?

    • DodoTheLaser

      I don’t even watch them. Because I watched aplenty when I was in. Ughh.
      I just read Marc’s fine narrative. How does he remember? He lived it.

      • Mooser

        “I don’t even watch them. Because I watched aplenty when I was in.”

        There’s another one of those short comments, two short sentences, which says it all. Thanks.

  • aquaclara

    Stacey Murphy will not be forgotten. I hope her family sees justice soon. It’s well overdue.

  • Mooser

    “If your marriage sucks, talking to your wife might actually help. Ya think?”

    Oh, that must be “the conversation with the flying plates” the song talks about.