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Another smuggled Scientology video to warm your inner thetan: ‘Success Congress’!

SuccessCongressOur video source has come through again, and we have another internal Scientology “quote video” for your enjoyment. As we’ve explained before, these short videos feature excerpts from L. Ron Hubbard lectures — this one took place in January 1959 — which is intended to sell the full package. Bridge Publications, Scientology’s printing arm, lists this item at $125.00, and it comes in a slew of foreign languages!

So what’s the significance of the lecture? Here’s part of the description from the Bridge Publications website…

“L. Ron Hubbard reveals the single reactive postulate at the core of planetary apathy, ‘there is nothing I can do about it.’ Yet that postulate doesn’t stand a chance — not with what he next discovered. Stemming from the pervasive datum, ‘the confusions aren’t and order is,’ came the discovery of the senior ability of a thetan. In fact, once a being reaches the top of the scale, it’s the only thing they can do. It’s a datum that provides the answer of how an individual can consecutively and continuously bring wider order that spreads like a wave over the world.”

Ah, those halcyon days of 1959. What it must have been like to take in LRH at his finest. But we do have this recording. So give it a listen…

 

 
Still awake? Once again, we turned to Marc Headley to see what he could tell us about the production of this video…

This video is a fest of downtown Los Angeles stock shots and guerilla crew. It looks like they raided the LA area for extras until we get to 1:11 where they used Aleah Callahan, Joy Moritz, Marg Horner, and Leanne Potter.

Then we have frequent video guy/sometime security guard/sports field lawn mower Kenny Seybold and Mette Jensen from RTC, now busted into CMO Int. Next we see Ron Sommerville and Clark Morton.

Then we take a break and go back to downtown LA. We have some Downtown shots and then we head over to the Bridge Warehouse for some shots and then we see the Hollywood Guaranty Building’s favorite security guard, who has recently vanished. In the video he is looking off into the sunset. Hopefully for him he rode off into the sunset in real life.

Then we see two guys reading one book while walking (which is apparently totally not awkward in Scientologyville). After a little kid shot and some more LA area staff, we get back to some Int Base staff and we see Paul Sarkany & Walter Wilkens from the film crew building some sort of structure next to the ocean. Then at the Long Beach freight docks we see Kate Markowitz with a bunch of guys with their backs to camera and some walking shots to wrap it up.

The Hubbard audio is very revealing on this video. According to Hubbard, those who are not Scientology clear cannot plan things. They must have had some non-clears working those LA grand openings recently. They are falling down on planning pretty big time these days.

Thanks again, Marc.

 
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Narconon takes a beating Down Under

Australian’s A Current Affair has an excellent piece on Narconon’s expansion plans in that country…

 

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 14, 2014 at 07:00

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  • DodoTheLaser

    ‘Success Congress’. At least it rhymes.

    • Espiando

      And it’s ever more apposite in this instance that “congress” is the opposite of “progress”.

      • Miss Tia

        Plus you know CONgress….

        • richelieu jr

          Even better in French’ ‘con’ means asshole, idiot….

        • richelieu jr

          Even better in French’ ‘con’ means asshole, idiot….

  • Graham

    “What it must have been like to take in LRH at his finest.”

    Or indeed, What it must have been like to have been taken in by LRH at his finest.

  • Edward Whalley

    Sounds like Cruise and Miscavage aren’t too leaderly, if they have to have all these awards and such backig them up.

    • DamOTclese2

      Well, kind of sucks when one walks around thinking one is infested with invisible murdered space aliens. If giving each other fake awards keeps them happy, I’m in favor.

  • deanblair

    So much wonderful news regarding Scientology and it’s demise. I love it!

  • Espiando

    “The confusions aren’t and order is”, if I’m reading it right, is a violation of the laws of thermodynamics, which means it’s not a natural condition. Hubtard would had known this if he’d passed a second-year physics cou…oh, wait, he didn’t. We know that. That’s why I want to play Whack-An-Indie when they bring Hubtard’s “science” qualifications up. At least Margaret (F)Lake doesn’t try to substantiate the whole nuclear physicist thing. If she tried to do that, I think that gives me every reason to hunt her down and go into Torquemada valence with her.

    Can’t EO or one of the other Aussie contingent arrange for Narconon to get attacked by funnel-web spiders or something? Everything in Ausfailia wants to kill you anyway, so why can’t we put in a little effort and target the killing? At the very least, we can have a koala give it chlamydia.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Working on it…

    • EnthralledObserver

      Ha… was that ‘Ausfailia’ intentional, or a slip of the keyboard?

      • Espiando

        Call it semi-intentional. It’s a mark of affection, really.

        • Mooser

          They got man-eating toads over there, for Chrissake. And they sit on poisonous hassocks!

    • Captain Howdy

      Yes!…Release the Inland Taipans

    • DamOTclese2

      “Everything in Ausfailia wants to kill you anyway…”

      ROFL!

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Some “Dropbears” would do the job nicely 😉

  • Observer

    Hmm … so the purpose of gold braid is to identify leaders who can’t be identified as leaders without it, eh?

    • Espiando

      Well, things like gold braid and rank insignia can be important. When I was in the Army, it was very important to differentiate a “leader” from your average drooling retard on sight in order to give proper salutes and shit. When it came to infantry, you really couldn’t do that task without the insignia.

      • Observer

        Yes, but you’re talking about actual military. That crack sounded to me like Ron was taking a shot at his Navy superiors who were so incompetent that they failed to recognize and reward his singular genius.

        • Espiando

          Well, I did make the assumption that “drooling retard” and “Sea Org” were synonymous, but point taken.

        • DamOTclese2

          Also I think the fucking asshole was mocking people who actually served during World War 2. This cunt was a lying coward like Rush Limbaugh and all the other fucking Republican piles of Republican shit that dodged the draft.

          • Verve

            As opposed to Democrats that dodged the draft?

    • Pepsicat

      Yes, when I heard him say that I thought of all those pimple faced RTC reps walking around Flag.

    • media_lush

      every time I see this photo all I see is time travelling Woody Allan from Zelig.

      • Sejanus

        By Xenus Taint!
        I was literally thinking the exact same thing….
        WTF is Woody Allen doing at the Sea Orgy?
        Oh….haha…self answering statement there….my bad.

      • Pete Cockerell

        Whenever I think I can finally make a comment here, I find someone has beaten me to it. Damn you, Pacific Daylight Time!

        • Mooser

          “Whenever I think I can finally make a comment here, I find someone has beaten me to it.”

          Don’t let that stop you. I haven’t made an original comment yet, but I get along.

      • Pete Cockerell

        Whenever I think I can finally make a comment here, I find someone has beaten me to it. Damn you, Pacific Daylight Time!

    • Once_Born

      Is it just me, or is there something inherently comical about those lanyards? Those in the picture are bad enough, but the confections on contemporary sea Org {uniforms} could be used to moor a supertanker.

      They have turned a length of string, that ensures you don’t lose your whistle, into a tribal marker.

      • Ciru
        • Once_Born

          He must have an enormous whistle.

          • Panopea Abrupta

            Yeah but no fipple in his whistle

            • Mooser

              I despair, sometimes, of the universe’s arc towards justice when I reflect that Hubbard was not found on the deck of the Apollo strangled with that lanyard.
              Edit: You know, I finally found something which makes me wish I could shoop around, like Momma says.

          • Ismael

            enormous ego

        • DamOTclese2

          Oh how sweet and precious! In a friggen 8-year-old! In a drooling, alcohol-soaked adult not so cute.

        • El Con Blubbard

          Or how about this one:

          http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.607987032106011023&w=207&h=207&c=8&pid=3.1&qlt=90&rm=2

          Idi Amin – David Miscavige’s hero!!

      • Betsy

        So RIGHT! They’ve gone from having a purpose to being downright dangerous. Maybe DM uses his to strangle slaves who appear not to be worshipping him correctly.

        • WildaBeast

          I thought it was for auto-erotic self-asphyxiation!

          • TDA1541A

            Like David Carradine ?

          • Betsy

            SKREEM!

    • TDA1541A

      Kadhafi comes to mind. Or Hermann Göring.

    • Betsy

      And the purpose of uniform caps is to cover up sebaceous cysts!

    • DamOTclese2

      Xenu! Look at all them Body Thetans Hubbard packed on over the years!

    • Missionary Kid

      Look Ma! No ribbons.

    • El Con Blubbard

      I look at Mary Sue Hubbard and I see nothing but “BAT SHIT CRAZY”…anyone else see that? Look at tubbs – I could puke! Ole tubby failed in the Navy – hence, the Sea Org and its uniform. What a stark raving psycho!

  • Truthiwant

    This is a sad story, and it was only last night that my mind was jolted back 27 years ago.

    I had read Tony’s post yesterday talking about Russell Miller’s book but it was not untill I had gone to bed that I began to remember what was, unfortunately, to become a life changing day for me.

    I had been introduced to Scientology by a person that was to become my future wife. I had my serious doubts about this strange ‘religion’ that I knew next to nothing about, but I was being convinced, not so much by her but by the person that that had got her involved in Scientology.

    I don’t want to go in to all the details as I want to simply tell the story of a book.

    I was living in central Italy in 1987 and was contemplating moving to the north of Italy to live with this woman. I was confused because of this thing called Scientology. Should I make the move and embrace Scientology or stay put where I was living?

    My Father was very concerned about Scientology and told me that Hubbard was a charlatan and that the Organization was dangerous. He sent me a book to read. It was called Religion Inc. by Stewart Lamont.

    When the book arrived , I didn’t know what to do with it. Should I read it or should I just discard it as a ‘suppresive’ book against Scientology. By then, I already had a bit of the Scientology jargon, (one of the first things you learn) even if I had not been completely exposed to the Organization. Many of you here will be able to relate to this and know how ‘convincing’ Scientologists are to get you in to the ‘Church’.

    Anyway, by then I had made the decision to move and I was packing up my stuff and this book, Religion Inc., was on a table and seemed to be staring at me. I was confused, because I knew my Father was right and I knew he would never have sent me ‘any old book’.

    So, what should I do? Should I keep the book and read it, or not?

    I loaded up the van, and I took the book with me and placed it on the passenger’s seat. Twenty or thirty miles up the road, I stopped. I picked up the book, got out of the van and tossed it in to a waste container at the side of the road.

    25 years later, I looked at the internet and found out the truth about Scientology.

    I am crying as I write this.

    • Observer

      You’re out now, and speaking out, warning others as only a former insider can. Your time in Scientology was not a waste because you are using your knowledge of Scientology’s evil as a weapon against it and helping to bring it down.

      You have my respect.

    • Juicer77

      I’m so sorry. Thank you for sharing this, it must have been hard to write. Perhaps someone in their “27 years ago” right now will see this and open that book.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Thank You for sharing this story. Sad but also very inspiring. It’s never too late FOR CHANGE!
      I see it in this way: CHANGE is always possible.

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Great story. Mine was The MindBenders by Cyril Vosper. I tore it in half.

    • 1subgenius

      And I cried as I read it.

    • J.W.

      That was powerful 🙁

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Unshakeable faith is powerful…..unfortunately, many times it leaves the believer powerless.

      With Scientology, that is an absolute.

      • Sejanus

        $cientology. We will break you and remake you….so shut up and take it!

    • Kim O’Brien

      hugs to you …big,bear hug …

    • WildaBeast

      Internet hugs aren’t nearly as good as real ones, but *internet hugs* anyway. Sometimes I think fate is inescapable – and oh God does that ever suck sometimes. It’s got to hurt you, even though you’re well out of the cult now. For whatever it’s worth, I’m so glad about that, and glad that you’re here. Your posts are wonderful – they help never-ins like me to understand, and hopefully help plant a seed of doubt inside the mind of every current member who reads them. Much respect from me for your courage in sharing your stories even when they hurt to remember, as well as for your big heart. Thank you.

    • sugarplumfairy

      You weren’t ready then, so even if you had stopped on the side of the road and read it front to back, you’d have found a reason to continue on your path..

      I know, wherever he is now, your dad loves you and is proud of you..

    • Sidney18511

      Religion Inc. by Stewart Lamont is online.
      Your father loved you, this book is a real eye opener.

      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/lamont/lamont.htm

    • El Con Blubbard

      I did a similar thing! I never thought in a million years that the governments would allow something like Scientology to exist if it hurt people. Boy – was I wrong! So – we did not know, nor did we suspect this scam would exist – we trusted. That is not a crime nor is it considered bad. What is bad is Scientology – because the entire thing is a total scam! From the Biography about L Ron Hubbard all the way to the top of the OT levels – nothing but lies! Xenu? Who knew?? (Roz Cohen coined that phrase – LOL)

      We are not fools or stupid – we were trusting souls that wanted to help and be helped and we bought the lies! It is a very clever scam – how it is set up. The staff in the Class 5 Orgs are clueless victims of the ponzi scheme. They are the first layer anyone is allowed to see. An unsuspecting victim enters its doors and is love bombed like no other group will love bomb. This sets the trap – or at least it did for me!

      • Mooser

        “I did a similar thing! I never thought in a million years that the
        governments would allow something like Scientology to exist if it hurt
        people. Boy – was I wrong!”

        Ah, your excessive trust in Government made you prey for Scientology? Tragic.

      • AnonymousSP

        I feel your rage and glad you’re here. It’s a scam alright and the world has many. Lucky for the good guys there are more people bonding and sharing on boards like this one. As more speak out more are there to help and support. Thank you Mr. Blubbard!

      • AnonymousSP

        I feel your rage and glad you’re here. It’s a scam alright and the world has many. Lucky for the good guys there are more people bonding and sharing on boards like this one. As more speak out more are there to help and support. Thank you Mr. Blubbard!

      • Betsy

        “I never thought in a million years that the governments would allow something like Scientology to exist if it hurt people.”

        I keep having the same feeling…how can this be? At least SOME governments are getting involved and speaking the truth about this awful organization…

        • Eclipse-girl

          At this point, I hope the local counsels in Australia will prevent Narconon from building on the land that is being purchased.

    • Eclipse-girl

      You got out. You escaped. You are healing.
      Forgive yourself. We are hardest on ourselves.
      We forgive others for things that we have difficulty in forgiving ourselves

      (((HUGS)))

    • Sejanus

      A real Scilon wouldn’t cry.
      Congrats on your rebirth and becoming human again…we missed you.
      Signed, Humanity.

    • AnonymousSP

      Yeah, I think healthy people who have lived will have those moments that bring on a good cry. I consider them ‘wins’ and relish them. Cheers! Thanks for your post.

    • AnonymousSP

      Yeah, I think healthy people who have lived will have those moments that bring on a good cry. I consider them ‘wins’ and relish them. Cheers! Thanks for your post.

    • Sid_Snakey

      It’s at times like these that I wish I had listened to what my father told me.

      -“What did he tell you?”

      I don’t know, I wasn’t listening!

      • Mooser

        Now, if I’m not entirely in error, it was Momma who told me “there would be days like this”, but she never specified what she meant. Maybe that’s where I got my taste for cryptic women.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          You have crypt, Mooser?
          Do tell

          • Mooser

            Oh, soory, I meant a women of few words, and those, somewhat coded and mysterious, kohl rimmed eyes, inflamed by belladonna, tuberoses everywhere. You know the type, Probably works in a health-food store, counting cardamon seeds.

    • Betsy

      oh, Truth…so sad. But you’re out. Virtual hugs to you…

    • Eugene K

      There are many different “truths” in Scientology depending on where you look.

      • Mooser

        “There are many different “truths” in Scientology depending on where you look.”

        Woah, talk about cryptic! Say, your name wouldn’t really be “Eugenia” would it? No? Oh well, didn’t think so really, hope springs internal…and spring can really hang you up the most.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Springs, infernal: 4, rarely used, never winter-driven

          One billion clams or best offer

          • Mooser

            Sorry, I’ve already got Joy Spring

            • Panopea Abrupta

              Re Joyce,
              He is excellent if somewhat cryptic.

              Speaking of tics, is there an under the Bridge smell or should I shower again?

            • FromPolandWithLove

              I love it:), great music:), Thanks Mooser

        • El Con Blubbard

          There are many different truths about heroin too – one truth – according to addicts – that first hit of this drug feels so good – but is it good for you? Hell NO! In fact – people get so addicted they chase that carrot all the way to death trying to get that first “win” – which they never do. Scientology is similar and just as dangerous as heroin except heroin is cheaper!

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Troll, much?

      • Truthiwant

        Even though it is total nonsense, Hubbard’s Ethics book states that one of the attributes of the suppressive personality is to make generalized statements. I am sure you don’t want to fall under that category, so please indicate specifically where we can all look for your supposed ‘truths’. However, please don’t direct us to Scientology’s website because most of us here already know too much about how truthful that site is.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          He is an indie who thinks it’s all good in the 50’s books.
          He even thinks that Hubbard couldn’t possibly have claimed a PhD without having one.
          Bare-faced Messiah is where his real education should begin.

        • Eugene K

          It’s amazing how some people (Panopea Abrupta) think they can know all about someone just from one sentence – a clear indication of someone who lives in the world of delusions.

          Truthiwant, if you have been in Scientology for years and did not find anything positive in it… well, I guess you would not be alone to claim such false extreme which is simply an opposite end of the other false extreme that Scientology is all good. Personally, I have always looked at Scientology as a resource and there are big areas of differentiation that can be made in this area according to time frames, different sections of its materials, and different groups and individuals within it. How can someone simply claim that it’s all bad and create a drama out of it is beyond me especially in light of the fact that the world at large is so messed up. If it wasn’t Scientology, it would probably be something else. One of the only differences with Scientology is that it promised to have all the answers and provide some absolute solutions. That it failed to do that, there is no doubt, but there were some successes along the way and those should be acknowledged as well.

          • Truthiwant

            I am not doubting that there were some successes in Scientology.

            Personally I feel that, knowing the truth about Hubbard, anybody that sticks up for him is part of the horrendous scam that he created.

            I wrote an article on my blog called ‘Leaving Scientology’ and I quote a sentence…

            “For example, Benito Mussolini did some good things for the Italian people back in the 1930’s but it certainly does not make Fascism something that one should embrace…”

            I don’t like comparing Hubbard to Nazism because it is almost going too far and I think the comparison to Fascism is more in keeping with what Scientology actually is.

            If you personally find Scientology to be good, then I think you should really look at your conscience.

            • Eugene K

              The big difference between “Mussolini” and what may have occurred in Scientology in the Sea Organization is that fundamentally people have a CHOICE in Scientology. It’s not at all the same to face prospects of being shot vs loosing your “eternity,” or friends and relatives or ideas that the world out there is a dangerous place to be or whatever may be the case. Yes, there is some “force” involved to the extent of potential harassment, but that does not so much apply to regular folks who just choose to walk away and not try to spend the rest of their lives fighting the organization in some way.

              Also, I did mention that I find an assertion that Scientology is “all good” to be another false extreme… so there is no need for further drama with things like “you should really look at your conscience.” Look at your conscience, and let others worry about theirs.

              Regardless of Scientology, there are many problems in this world that people face as individuals and as humanity at large. Whatever useful that can be extracted out of any area that can aid in solving these problems is good in my view. And what did Hubbard do exactly? He provided some logic, some methodology and materials. It was up to the people that followed him to agree or not to agree, to participate or not to participate. Or you want to advocate that people should not take any responsibility for their own decisions in life whatever may have been the situation?

            • Truthiwant

              I do not need Scientology to fulfil what you are saying. I’m quite capable of resolving my own problems by myself and helping to aid other people’s problems, without Hubbard’s teachings and I’m quite sure you are as well.
              Think about it.

            • Eugene K

              I did.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Your answer to “And what did Hubbard do exactly?” is: “He provided some logic, some methodology and materials.” Yeah, you’ve thought about it a whole lot, haven’t you, Eugene.

              And you apparently think that Truthiwant thinks that “people should not take any responsibility for their own decisions in life whatever may have been the situation.” Talk about your false extremes.
              Eugene, you demonstrate poor critical thinking skills and a lack of empathy virtually every time you post here.

            • Eugene K

              I really don’t need your “expert opinion” on my thinking skills or my sense of empathy.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Thank you so much. Your honesty is touching.

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      Stuart Lamont’s book gets forgotten how different even the Int Base PR scene was back then he has photos of the “Ship” on the Int Base, the LRH space Star of California fake big rigged old fashioned ship that is an “LRH space” and also housed the peacocks, and the swimming pool that many people got thrown into, not by Hubbard and I don’t even know if Hubbard ever used much the “Ship” on the Int Base.

      Sinar Parmen would know.

      Lamont had access to several Int Base staffers to interview, and the PR lady at that time, Jeanine Boyd I think it was, did his PR handling, a whole different less paranoid “handling” but still creepy kooky in the big ways.

      But back then, you could walk around the fences, since the fences didn’t even go all the way around the property, and back then there weren’t motion detectors and lights like at a prison complex, the Int Base was a lot less “secure” and more normalish.

      Lamont’s book ought to be mentioned more, the title, “Religion Inc” is still such a valid point.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Is it just me, or is LRonny’s lecture just a bunch of sounds running together that don’t actually make any sense at all?

    • RMycroft

      Words. More and more words. Even more and more words.

      • FromPolandWithLove

        Ron’s idea for teaching parishioners: “Get them bussy with word clearing and in the meantime go through their wallets;p

        • DamOTclese2

          LOL! So true. “Now go and word clear ‘squirrel!'”

      • K2P2

        and very, VERY bad music

      • Peter

        Early Shermanspeak?

        • RMycroft

          Maybe Sherman got it from Hubbard?

          MAKE WORDS. MAKE MORE WORDS. MAKE OTHERS AS TO MAKE MORE WORDS.

    • Natalia 2.0

      From yesterday’s story, but I have a feeling it will be applicable to many a Sci story (refresh)

      • EnthralledObserver

        Indeed… nice.

      • Miss Tia

        With a little tweaking, that’s a haiku! 🙂 Gah! I read a line and can now automatically tell if it’s 5 or 7 “It was all nonsense” MAKE IT STOP!!!!!!!!!!

        • Natalia 2.0

          You have a gift.

          • Eclipse-girl

            Yes, she does.

          • Miss Tia

            It’s more like a curse
            Becoming automatic
            A haiku machine

            😀

        • Eclipse-girl

          my first and only attempt —

          It was all nonsense
          To them it made perfect sense
          Scientology

          • Miss Tia

            I can’t top that! Perfect! 🙂

            • Eclipse-girl

              You have inspired all of us.

            • Miss Tia

              Bunker haiku! 🙂

          • woodrose

            You inspired me to make one attempt, too.

            Broken families
            Driven into bankruptcy
            Scientology

            • Eclipse-girl

              That is good.

    • Just Dee

      I refuse to listen to any of the videos made by that crazy ass man. Those are minutes of my life I won’t get back. I would rather scrub toilets or pick up the dog poop in the back yard, when it’s only 18 degrees outside. (no offense to anyone who is interested in what he says!)

      • Mrs. V.

        I tried once last year and swore I’d never put myself through that kind of punishment again. I’m not a perfect person, but I do not need to treat myself that way ever.

        • Just Dee

          I am still shocked that people pay good money to hear this crap!

      • Observer

        One of the managers at work – not even my manager – has me on a distribution list to which she sends revolting “inspirational” and “motivational” quotes. They are without exception trite, hackneyed platitudes and positive thinking crap. I am compelled to read them, even though I don’t want to, just so I can hate them.

        That’s how it is with these Ron videos although, unlike the motivational quote emails, some of these are so cheesy that they are actually enjoyable (e.g., the giant space boots).

        • Just Dee

          I totally understand that, the curiosity. But it’s very hard to imagine people paying their hard earned money to hear this stuff! I listened once, i wanted to rip my ears out – just his voice alone, could drive me nuts! lol
          It’s great that Tony posts them, so the curious can listen to them for free! 🙂

          • Sherbet

            Dee, I agree with you. While I do listen occasionally — I think it’s only fair I hear the other side if only to reenforce in my mind that the other side is pure nuttiness — lrh makes me cringe. Observer, I hear ya. I get those treacly-sweet and holy emails from a dear friend. I scan through them (sometimes), and write back, “Thank you for thinking of me.” Ah, the girl means well.

        • DamOTclese2

          HR departments are *rife* with dimwitted public relations rhetoric and jargon that is meaningless and which only appeals to the dumbest among us. When HR people don’t have any work to do, they try to invent work by attending feel-good nothing lectures and then bringing it all back to the company they work for and inflicting the abject lunacy on to their hapless colleagues.

      • DamOTclese2

        It’s enough to read the insane loon’s kook spew to get the full effect anyway, no need to try to listen to the filthy voice of his.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        This is actually the first one that I made all the way through. I’m building up a tolerance I guess.

    • scnethics

      What? It makes perfect sense. He says if you keep going with scientology you’re going to become so much smarter and more aware than the weak-minded population surrounding you that you will naturally become their leader. And he also makes it “clear” that once you achieve this higher state of “Clear”, you don’t disagree with other “Clears” about things, because all “Clears” see things the same way, which means that if you disagree with Ron, it’s because you aren’t “Clear” and don’t share his perfect vision of how things should be. And if you want to look “Clear”, just be a robot and agree with Ron. Clear?

    • Sejanus

      It is not just you.

    • Missionary Kid

      Let me interpret it for you.

      Blah blah blaj, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah, I have the way to take care of all of that. Give all your money to us.

    • DamOTclese2

      It’s the drugs and alcohol talking, soaking the man’s insanity-drenched brain.

  • J.W.

    “A Current Affair” is trash. They said that Jonny Lewis was fresh out of doing the Purification Rundown and insinuated that that’s why he killed his landlord and her cat and fell to his death. He did the program in 2004.
    Also saying that nobody suspected that Tom Cruise’s 9/11 detox centers had any connection to Scientology is BS. It was openly reported at the time that they were using Scientology’s Purification Rundown.

    I really hope that all the stuff about high doses of niacin causing liver damage isn’t true because I went up to I think 3000 mg and I remember I would get pains in my lower left side. I think that’s where your liver is. They repeatedly told me it was totally safe if you went up on a gradient but if that’s not true I’ll be pissed. I’m skeptical because people refuting Scientology’s claims always say that the maximum dose of niacin you’re allowed a day is 15mg but that’s not true because they sell 100mg niacin vitamins over the counter and it says on the label to take one daily with a meal so obviously 100mg is fine and it’s not 15mg max.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Are you sure the bottle doesn’t say 100mcg? I’ve made that mistake before…

      • Espiando

        No. On the Purif, your dose can go as high as 5000mg per day, not mikes. They’re causing liver damage, and the fucking Indies still pimp it.

        • EnthralledObserver

          I meant on J.W.’s over the counter niacin on which states that 100mg a day is the dose recommended. Just wanted to rule out a mis-read.

          • Eclipse-girl

            Here is one link.

            RDA of niacin is around 15 mg for adults, not 100 mg.

            http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/vitamin-b3-niacin

            I thought I read article that Johnny Lewis may have had mental health issues and needed psychiatric drugs to manage those issues.
            He had recreational drug issues, unfortunately common with those with mental health issues as it could be a form of self medication

            • Mooser

              What do you know, all it takes is a measly 15mgs., which you almost can’t help getting from your food.

            • Mooser

              What do you know, all it takes is a measly 15mgs., which you almost can’t help getting from your food.

            • TDA1541A

              I think Scientology vitamin policy is blatant discrimination of the other B vitamins.

      • J.W.

        Yes I’m positive

      • J.W.

        And I was actually mistaken. It’s actually 500mg.

        http://www.jamiesonvitamins.com/node/175

    • aegerprimo

      The liver is above the stomach, and spans across upper abdomen. Lower left is the descending colon and sigmoid colon, or last sections of the large intestine.

    • sugarplumfairy

      “Nobody really knows why..”

      Wrong. I know why. Johnny had some kind of psychosis which went undiagnosed and untreated because he had the misfortune to be born into a family who had fallen victim to a con artist who devoted his life to debunking real medicine in order to sell (at ridiculously high prices) his own brand of snake oil..

      I hate l. ron hubbard and all his snake oils..

      • sugarplumfairy

        Ok, now I’m all hot and bothered about co$ and their stupid, self-serving attack on psychiatry..

        It makes me crazy that but for the lack of a therapeutic level of antipsychotic meds in a psychotic, a nice old lady and her cat, not to mention a talented and beloved young man, would all still be living their lives.. Chalk another three up to frigging lrh and hís frigging scam..

        • Just Dee

          Now they are screwing over his daughter. Denying paternity and not giving her a cent. Gee, wonder where the money is going?

      • Missionary Kid

        Read the Wikipedia entry on Johnny. He spent time in a recovery center (non-Scion from what I can determine). I came to the conclusion that there was a serious brain injury involved to trigger his behavior, you may differ.

        Unfortunately, he was born to a Scion family. That does no good for any mental problems, injury related or not. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Lewis

    • kemist

      They lied to you.

      That’s a toxic dose and it’s not any safer “on a gradient”.

      A person with a healthy liver will withstand it, but if, for instance you have hepatitis or one of the miriad genetic conditions which affect liver function or niacin metabolism, or previous liver damage, you might be severely worsening it.

    • madame duran

      “I really hope that all the stuff about high doses of niacin causing liver damage isn’t true because I went up to I think 3000 mg and I remember I would get pains in my lower left side. I think that’s where your liver is. They repeatedly told me it was totally safe if you went up on a gradient but if that’s not true I’ll be pissed.”
      You “hope” the claim of liver damage due to high doses of niacin isn’t true, even though that claim has been proven through medical science. So what assurance do you have? You’d rather believe the claim of UNTRAINED, UNQUALIFIED people who tell you that 3000 mg is “totally safe” (note that the licensed doctor consulted in the Current Affair news piece says that a daily dose of 1500mg of niacin is considered toxic…yet you went ABOVE that level)? Is this a case of Scientology’s “what’s true for you is true for you”, objective research be damned? You have a serious, legitimate health concern and I would think that anyone in your position would want definitive answers regarding the detrimental effects of any drug/vitamin and not leave it to blind faith.

      • Miss Tia

        love your user name! 🙂 JT was always my favorite, Roger next, then Nick!

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        These,”UNTRAINED,UNQUALIFIED” recent graduates are known to sell drugs and have sex with you,too. I can’t believe that they have not been sued into oblivion. I called just to get their pitch and they are psychotically aggressive using scare tactics and erroneous cure rates. Don’t even mention $cion…

      • Mooser

        Yes, but you know, hope springs eternal in the human breast! And JW must have one hell of a rack by now!

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Breasts swaying like two house-trailers passing on a windy bridge

          • Mooser

            “Breasts swaying like two house-trailers passing on a windy bridge”

            Yup. I see that almost every time I cross the Narrows into Tacoma. Of course,Gertie don’t gallop no more, but house trailers still shimmy like my sister, Kate.

      • TDA1541A

        http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/high-blood-cholesterol/expert-answers/niacin-overdose/faq-20058075

        Niacin overdose symptoms include:

        Severe skin flushing combined with dizziness

        Rapid heartbeat

        Itching

        Nausea and vomiting

        Abdominal pain

        Diarrhea

        Severe liver damage (hepatoxicity)

    • Eivol Ekdal
      • Panopea Abrupta

        The rest of the comments are ALL OSA sock puppets though.
        Ugh, ugh, ugh

    • Mooser

      “I really hope that all the stuff about high doses of niacin causing
      liver damage isn’t true because I went up to I think 3000 mg”

      I cannot recommend strongly enough that you keep on hoping, as hard as you can. You’ll need to.

      • J.W.

        I get that you’re trying to be sassy and make a jab at the church but I’m a real person you’re talking to and I don’t appreciate that when it’s concerning my health.

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe you’re confusing recommended daily allowance with maximum dosage. You can buy all sorts of vitamins and supplements over the counter that are far more potent than the RDA.

      It appears that Johnny Lewis did indeed suffer from the results of a traumatic motorcycle accident a couple of years before. That statement should have been checked by the Current Affair staff before it was put on the air. It doesn’t invalidate the main point: NarCONon is simply a front for Co$, and their approach to addiction is bullshit, straight from the fetid mind of the liar, convicted thief, con man, drug user, bigamist, and sociopath, LRH.

      • J.W.

        People always say that 15mg is the max you’re allowed, though. And that’s not true. I don’t know what the max you’re allowed is but Jamieson sells one-a-day niacin vitamins and they are actually 500mg each

        http://www.jamiesonvitamins.com/node/175

        • Missionary Kid

          Google and Wikipedia are your friends.

          This is from the Wikipedia entry on Niacin: “One recommended daily allowance of niacin is 2–12 mg/day for children,
          14 mg/day for women, 16 mg/day for men, and 18 mg/day for pregnant or
          breast-feeding women.[10] Tolerable upper intake levels (UL) for adult men and women is considered to be 35 mg/day by the Dietary Reference Intake system to avoid flushing.” You can read it for yourself at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin

          In short, the recommended daily allowance (RDA), which comes from one’s diet (if you’re an adult male) is 16 milligrams/day. That is a minimum, not a maximum. You will get that when you eat a diet with meat, legumes (mostly beans) and whole grains. You very probably get enough niacin in your diet.

          The only legitimate usage for niacin is to lower cholesterol levels. This is often done in combination with statins.

          If you look at the Wikipedia article, you’ll see that toxicity can take place with 1 gram of (1000 mg) per day up to 6g/day. It was bullshit if they told you that niacin is totally safe. Next time someone tells you that about niacin, have them take 6000 mg, then get ready to call an ambulance. They may tolerate it, but probably not.

          Co$ didn’t care if you damaged your liver, they just wanted your money. Your body was telling you that you had taken too much niacin, and they were telling you it was totally safe.

          I take it you’re in Canada. Talk to a physician, and ask them what is the maximum level of niacin that they’d recommend. THE ASSHOLES WHO TOLD YOU IT’S PERFECTLY SAFE ARE NOT PHYSICIANS. LRH was not a physician, often misunderstood physiology, and gave very erroneous advice.

          If you have toxins in your system, the body usually gets rid of them by metabolizing them or urination. Alcohol, because of its volatility, also goes out the pores and breath. SWEATING IS A POOR WAY OF GETTING RID OF TOXINS. If you have taken drugs or alcohol, once the symptoms are gone, you’re done with the effect they have on you. It’s an outmoded idea that they stay in your system and affect you further. That’s a concept that comes out of the 1920s, and was completely considered invalid by the 1960s. Hubbard was spewing old wives tales.

          All a sauna does is makes you feel like you’re doing something. For a short while, it’s nice. To spend hours in one is not recommended, except by $cientology.

    • DamOTclese2

      The deadly quack medical fraud information is true. You can read about these Scientology NarCONon frauds at NarCONon IS Scientology and read what actual medical science has to saw about Scientology’s “Purification Rundown” frauds.

  • Andrew Robertson

    Hubbard’s ill-informed and febrile views on ‘knowingness’ puts great stress on the literal understanding of every word in a sentence without which one cannot fully comprehend his pearls of wisdom. This forms the basis of ‘Study Tech’, a discredited and ignorant concept of learning.

    There’s an interesting story on BBC News Online about recent research on the role of polysemy in understanding language:

    http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140313-the-benefits-of-talking-vague

    It stresses the surprising benefits of ambiguous language and suggests that ambiguity actually makes language more efficient and increases comprehension.
    …………..

    “There’s also another benefit to multiple meanings in language. It allows us to make fertile connections between disparate concepts. We have even arguably turned this nature of ambiguity into an art form. We call it poetry.”
    …………..

    Andrew

    • Panopea Abrupta

      We call it poetry, we call it puns.

      We need it for insinuation, for implication, for all the delights of verbal choreography.
      Language is such a powerful tool for all these reasons, a protean living thing.

      When one sees Hubbard’s childish infatuation with acronyms and endless imagined hierarchies and his infatuation with propaganda, it is hard not to weep.
      Anyone who can twist ethics as he has should have his cloven hooves hobbled.

      LRH, the Third Reich called – they want their intellectual property back.

      • joan nieman

        I enjoyed your statement Pan.

    • Once_Born

      I believe that this is why synthetic (invented) languages don’t catch on. They are too rational and lack associations. They were designed to be efficient and unambiguous – which turns out to be the exact opposite of what real people, in real situations, need in a language.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Hubspeak, for instance?
        A malignant Esperanto

        • Espiando

          I misread that for a second and thought you were talking about me. Of course, I also consider “malignant” a compliment.

          • Mooser

            “Of course, I also consider “malignant” a compliment.”

            You are the carbuncle which shines brightest in the crown.

          • Panopea Abrupta

            Heh heh

            You can certainly be righteously malevolent, and from what I’ve seen, your aim is pretty damn good.
            Malignant – not that I’ve seen.

    • Mooser

      “There’s an interesting story on BBC News Online about recent research on the role of polysemy in understanding language:”

      Too bad! My wife would never stand for that, even if it did help my language skills. And i bet it would, too. I’d be a cunning linguist.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Not a punning bigamist

        • Mooser

          A bigamist? Heavens, no! Well, I once thought of marrying two women, I though it would be big….no, wait a minute, that makes No.100 for that joke on this blog. I’d better retire it.
          God help me, I’ll try, anyway. To retire that joke, that is. I ought to give it a gold watch and a pension. I’ve employed it for 50 years or so.

        • Mooser

          A bigamist? Heavens, no! Well, I once thought of marrying two women, I though it would be big….no, wait a minute, that makes No.100 for that joke on this blog. I’d better retire it.
          God help me, I’ll try, anyway. To retire that joke, that is. I ought to give it a gold watch and a pension. I’ve employed it for 50 years or so.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Not a punning bigamist

  • sugarplumfairy

    “…because gold braid is to identify a leader who can’t be identified otherwise…” That’s so frking funny coming from those particular liver lips..

    • EnthralledObserver

      Wait, wait, wait… does Captain Davey Makemerich wear ‘gold braids’? Just thought this might help Mosey out a wee bit to ‘identify’ the ‘leader’ who is ‘hiding’.

    • DamOTclese2

      Someone else pointed out that this is the drug-addled conman “explaining” why the officers in the Navy failed to recognize him as a “leader” of great genius. If Hubbard had been allowed to play sailor and wear these braids , no doubt his Navy career would have actually matched his god damned lies.

  • RMycroft

    “Every family has to have a leader.” Yes, and that worked so well in the three families that Hubbard abandoned.

    • Sejanus

      Well he would know about family leadership…Xenu knows he had enough runs at it.

    • joan nieman

      Isn’t that the truth? He has no idea what he is talking about but he conned a good many with his jabber. The fake Navy uniforms really gets me. It is an insult to our National Defence. How is it not a crime to impersonate the Navy?

      • Mooser

        “How is it not a crime to impersonate the Navy?”

        Gosh, I hope the Village People can still get work when they get out, I like them a lot.

      • ze moo

        Their insignia aren’t real US Navy. I do wonder if real Navy or Marines walking around the clamcribs ever salute them?

    • DamOTclese2

      It also worked well for the Mason Family. Scientology was too insane for Charles Manson do to any more than just dabble in it.

  • AnonRedX

    The post for the Craigslist did not stick?

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Yep – saw it for 5 secs
      Try again

      • AnonRedX

        you will have to do it

        • WildaBeast

          I see the “stick” you posted after the original post, as well as the original post itself…

  • Natalia 2.0

    Thank you, Tony and thank you for yesterday’s story as well. It was a real treat to have two professional communicators discuss a subject on which they are both extremely knowledgeable. I enjoyed it very much. I hope the book makes Mr. Miller a chunk of money. Do you know if he is going to do any kind of publicity tour or book signings in The States?

    • ze moo

      A book tour would be fun to watch. Imagine {or postulate} a guest spot on the Daily Show with Jon Stewart or 60 Minutes doing a story about all the harassment. Russel was denied the US market previously, now he can pad his retirement account with some real bucks. $cientology was a small niche market in 1987, now it has grown a lot.

      • Troy MacGyver SP

        I think it reached it peak in the 80’s.Been slowly sinking ever since. But your right in the aspect of interest in the fraud of the cult is peaking. I’d love to see him on a book tour making some great money on a monumental masterpiece!

      • joan nieman

        I hope he does have book interviews upcoming.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Good day Red X team,
    It really was stats Thursday
    yesterday,
    We have a big load for you today.
    You know what to do.
    The fresher they are the softer
    and more tender they are
    Continue the good work.

    https://whyweprotest.net/commu

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Stick

      • AnonRedX

        hopefully, if you can reply to it.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Bad link – please fix the url

          • AnonRedX

            yep

            • EnthralledObserver

              What’s the real link, this one doesn’t seem to work. I just copied and pasted from your original.

            • AnonRedX

              You must get it from the time posted at the bottom of the list, copy link and paste in your comments

            • EnthralledObserver

              I can’t find it… any more clues?

            • AnonRedX

              Try the new post, a minute or 2 ago

            • EnthralledObserver

              Did that do it? *sigh… I try to help and… well*

            • GalacticGreg

              to make absolute certain a link works when posted in dIsqus, I nearly always load the URL in my browser, see that it works, then go up into the address bar and copy the link right from there; go back to the comment and paste it in.

            • AnonRedX

              Sorry I got you mixed up with Panopea, and thought you knew how to do it.
              You cannot copy a link from a comment to another – Discus does not copy it properly.
              You should actually have the last list bookmarked and then scroll down to the new list, scroll to the bottom of the new list, right click on the date/time posted, copy link, and then paste it in your comment.
              Thanks for jumping in and helping

            • EnthralledObserver

              No probs… I’m not sure if I worked it out or not, but I tried. lol
              I went to the bottom of the list where is said the time stamped link was on the next line down, but there was nothing there. I don’t know where I went wrong. I’ll leave it to the experts from now on I think. You all do good.

            • AnonRedX

              don’t give up so quickly, try again, we all are on a learning curve, we are no experts, just bumbling around and learning from our mistakes

            • EnthralledObserver

              It’s late here now, but I’ll give it another try sometime. Cheers!

            • EnthralledObserver

              Just had a little play now… I think I get it now. Will test it out another time I’m needed to jump in. 🙂

            • AnonRedX

              Or rather you can copy links from discus by right clicking on the link & copy link.

    • Sidney18511

      I’ve been a proud member of the red X gang since the beginning. I X the most current listings, going back about 3 days and I’ve noticed that we aren’t knocking them off. They seem to stay up.

      When this was first started we used to make these things disappear.

      Anyone else notice this or my observations for the mark?

      • Eclipse-girl

        I am not sure we were ever able to get old ads removed. We know we are effective with new ads.
        I do not know if different countries have different rules for the CL ads

  • sugarplumfairy

    “Ah, those halcyon days of 1959. What it must have been like to take in LRH at his finest…” Don’t you mean ahh, those Chloral Hydrate days of 1959??

    • Sherbet

      Very cute. That’s a pun worthy of Mooser, sugarplum.

      • sugarplumfairy

        thanks, Sherb..

        • Sherbet

          Now that I think of it, I’m not sure it was a compliment. Yes, yes, it was. 😉

          • sugarplumfairy

            Don’t worry.. I took it as it was intended.. =)

            I love Mooser..

            • Mooser

              Gosh, thanks, and my love and best wishes to you, too. I am blushing like a new Swiss Army knife! I’m not used to approbation.

      • Mooser

        “Very cute. That’s a pun worthy of Mooser, sugarplum.”

        It’s much better than I could have done. Well, unless I thought about it for two days, and then went back and posted the punch-line on a long-dead thread. But I’ve never done that, of course. Who would do such a thing? Besides, Disqus time-stamps are often inaccurate.

    • Captain Howdy

      Troll out those lazy, hazy, crazy days of Chloral Hydrate
      Those days of sec checks and implants and preclears

      • sugarplumfairy

        Wow.. For some odd reason I have a sudden craving for soda and pretzels and beer.. Good thing it’s Friday..

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Ah, if you remember it, it’s because you weren’t there.

        Said about the 60’s – but in truth OT3 would be a fairer target.

  • AnonRedX
    • Sergeant Pepper

      Note: Nashville has one anti ad. Pay attention, please. Thanks.

      • AnonRedX

        Credits to aprimo

        • GalacticGreg

          Love it, aegerP !!

      • Toni m

        I gave it a heart.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Stick to the power of 2

      Works, Yeah

    • Toni m

      Done blues and purples, Ireland, Canada and UK..

  • El Con Blubbard

    What Scientologist’s don’t really grasp is they are doing NOTHING about anything in the World. They certainly don’t calm anyone or anything. It is constant restimulation – never erasing or easing! They are the best merchant’s of chaos and fear manufacturer’s in the World! They are doing nothing to the drugging of anyone – nor do they “clear” people of anything. It is all smoke and mirrors!

    Unfortunately, they have to get out of the bubble and look to find this out. It is sad that they dedicate their lives for absolutely nothing.

    Scientology does more damage than it does good for anyone.

    It is dead and will be completely gone once the Whales stop donating and people like Robert Duggan are distancing themselves from Scientology. This may be the year it goes away! No people, empty buildings, staff leaving, bad public relations, no celebrities promoting Scientology – it is at the end of its cycle. Thank GOD!!

    • kemist

      “Cycle” is yet another word with a peculiar definition in scientology.

      Normally things that happen in cycles are periodic, meaning they repeat over a certain amount of time. Scilons use it in any context but the correct one. I wonder how this jibes with their obsession with dictionaries.

      Scientologese is essentially Hubbard redifining words he liked to use because they sound sciencey but never bothered to understand.

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Link to Australian’s A Current Affair story and video for anyone with issues playing the embedded video(it plays for me but kept pausing to buffer)…
    http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8813809/scientologys-plan-to-expand-into-suburbs

  • fare_based_messiah

    Hi there everyone, I’m a long time scientology-cult-madness puzzled observer, fairly new underground bunker lurker and brand new blogger. Just thought I’d greet everyone before commenting. Hedley says ” and then we see the Hollywood Guaranty Building’s favorite security guard, who has recently vanished”. Maybe I’m trivial in my curiosity but does that mean that legendary Franck Paolo has blown ?? Does anyone know ??

    • GalacticGreg

      It’s only 6:45am thereabouts out there around Pacifica Bridge. You’ll prolly have to wait a while before you hear anything about Franck.

      • fare_based_messiah

        Man that would be so good if he indeed left and wanted to speak out !! the guy must have inside information galore !!

    • Natalia 2.0

      Nice catch. I bet AGP would know. Franck is his best foil.

      • Sherbet

        Paging His Holiness…

      • fare_based_messiah

        AGP vs Franck epic youtube vids is what pulled me further into the cult’s rabbit hole !

        • joan nieman

          Welcome to the Bunker fbm!

    • Sherbet

      Great name: fare_based_messiah!

      • fare_based_messiah

        thanks by the way !

        • Panopea Abrupta

          As opposed to fair-faced messiah which he certainly wasn’t.
          Benvenuti to the Bunker 😉

      • Mooser

        MK should have a look at that one! For a list, even tho’ it’s a nym. Up to him, he is the conservator of the lists.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Welcome – cool name!

      • fare_based_messiah

        Thanks ! dyslexia has its perks !!

        • EnthralledObserver

          $cientology can apparently help you with that – but I think you’re better off as you are… 😉

          • fare_based_messiah

            Agreed 😉

    • 1.1

      Welcome fare_based_messiah. There are no Joburg Sec Checks here, but you will find a lot of SP’s and Co$ tech that has gone well squirrel 😀

      • fare_based_messiah

        Thanks there ! Appreciate the heads up ! 😉

    • Captain Howdy

      I really hope nothing has happened to Franck..unless he’s blown of course.

  • GalacticGreg

    Why members in $cientology Inc. will get the $ for services no matter what. Playing right into The Long Con of L. Ron.

    “Squeezing individual Scientologists for as much as they can pay is
    justified by the Church of Scientology on the grounds that recruits are
    buying the unique gift of survival through future lives as a thetan.
    Giving away all one’s possessions would be cheap at the price, runs the
    argument. That is indeed what many recruits do end up doing.” — Stewart Lamont, Religion Inc.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Outta here… night!

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Night, thank you 😉

  • My name is Larry Lester

    I still hate scientology

  • 1.1

    As Hubbard speaks, pauses and mumbles; you can almost hear his brain frantically searching for the next mixed-metaphor, illogical concept or a redefined word to excrete. He then has the audacity to reference this as a ‘discovery’ from his ‘research’. No, you just simply made it up.

    At times, even Hubbard himself sounds confused and indeed quite surprised by his own ability to spew forth momentous volumes of verbal diarrhoea. It makes for confusing listening, no doubt, any prolonged exposure would culminate in one dry retching over a porcelain bowl.

    • ze moo

      Remember that this is an ‘advertorial’ the full Ron lectures. It has been edited for content and clarity. Ok, only content. How much cra-cra is the full lecture? I shan’t pay to find out.

      • Once_Born

        I own a book entitled “everything men understand about women”. All 150 pages are blank.

        If the full ‘lectures’ really were, “edited for content and clarity” they would run to one compound work… starting with “bull”.

        • Mooser

          “I own a book entitled “everything men understand about women”. All 150 pages are blank.”

          I got took! My copy of that book only has one page! How did you get the full volume?

          • Once_Born

            You must have bought the Reader’s Digest version…

            • Mooser

              It must have been bowderlised.

    • Mooser

      In “Barefaced Messiah” Miller relates the story of a man who loaned Hubbard a rough-and-tumble-hairsbreadth-escapes-adventures book one afternoon. That evening, at dinner, he heard Hubbard apropriate the books adventures as his own with the guy who loaned him the book sitting at the table, too!

      • joan nieman

        I can believe that Mooser. He probably jotted down phrases by closing his eyes and opening a page.

      • Dr_Orpheus

        A die-hard Scientologist would believe that the author of that book stole the tale from the true life of Hubbard.

  • Racnad

    While Scientology is careful not to make any specific promise of tangible gains or magic powers to be obtained, there have been some, and they are expressed in this video. LRH says that people who are clear would tend to rise to the tops of their fields, and that groups of clears would make perfect decisions. He said another version of this later when he started the Sea Org, that an organization run by OTs would be operate differently from non-Scientology organizations that that because the common denominator between the people in it is not the Reactive Mind, that the decisions and actions of such an organization would be effective, efficient and ethical to a degree not seen before. Well, If Scientology were what it claimed to be, all this would be true! But there is no evidence of this at all. You have to confront this fact Scientologists!

    • GalacticGreg

      If it were true, there would be 5,000,000 church members and all the orgs of all types (class 5, advanced, saint hill-type et al) would be jammed packed, and hundreds of thousands of store fronts worldwide would be bringing wogs in to get em started.

      But no. Nada. Zilch. $cientology Inc. as a chirch is one to the fastest *shrinking* “religions” on planet earth.

      • Racnad

        I don’t understand how people who have been in scientology since the 1970s can believe all the “Expansion!” news when they can remember Orgs and Scientology events being more packed 30-40 years ago that they are now.

        • Missionary Kid

          Try just 5 years ago.

        • Once_Born

          The best explanation I have heard for this (and the recent spate of re-re openings) is that they all think that their Org is the only one that is failing – after all, they are constantly receiving DVD’s shot at ‘events’ which have been meticulously staged to make it appear as if every one of the featured locations is overrun with enthusiastic crowds.

          Once, the CofS registered events as film shoots so that they could exclude critics from public place. Ironically, the latest grand openings (and re-openings, and re-re-openings) really are film shoots, because the end product is pure fiction designed intended only for internal consumption.

          • Racnad

            I was reading the Facebook page of a Scientologist who said that Scientology was booming in countries where the Psychs don’t control the media. But look at how popular both Fox News and Barak Obama are despite the constant attack and ridicule each side constantly directs at the other. If Scientology was really what it claimed to be, it wouldn’t matter what the “rare” ex-member or South Park episode said.

  • Captain Howdy

    Wow, that video got me stirred up. I think I’m a natural clear or something,

    Today Poland Clearwater…Tomorrow zee World!

  • AnonRedX

    $cientology hiring funraiser, big commissions, they ca’t do it themselves they are going to trick other people to do it for them. Regg your friends and family for co$ and earn commissions.

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/muc/4373935706.html

    Join the Red X brigade, we must stop this kind of abuse

    • Panopea Abrupta

      What is evil about this ad is that to the innocent poor musician it looks like a chance to turn a few $$, a job offer.

      • kemist

        All fake job ads that try to ensnare people in MLMs should also be flagged. In fact, a responsible ad service should not even post them.

        Some of them are not much better than cults.

        • woodrose

          I am starting to wonder if CL is a legitimate ad service. The entire Red X brigade effort is a little bit frustrating (though I keep clicking), because it would all be unnecessary if CL would crack down on misleading, deceptive ads.

          • Panopea Abrupta

            It is a legit effort to make money for the people who bought out Craig.
            The paid ads are all they care about but the “community” spiel is what they PR on.

        • Mooser

          “Some of them are not much better than cults.”

          Ever look in the “Musicians” category? There is some very scary stuff in there.

    • 1.1

      Flagged. Sadly this is your stock standard bait & switch tactic the Co$ use all the time on Craigslist to get fresh victims. A snake needs its prey. Sorry that is insulting to snakes, I take it back. They are just plain scum.

      • Missionary Kid

        Now, you’re insulting scum. 😉

        • 1.1

          lol 😀

  • Frank Lee

    This video that explains that two people cannot make a decision, that only one can be a leader, tells me why my ex, raised in Scientology could NEVER act as a team, a partner, nor give mutual respect.
    This blog has taught me why I was backed into a corner repeatedly and screamed at relentlessly for hours with lots of ridiculous accusations thrown at me. Why everything in our marriage was one big lie. Why the family was instructed at our wedding NOT to tell me about the childhood nor their cult.
    I’ve come to understand why my ex-mother-in-law was married seven times and had sex with neighbors in front of her children. This woman who was directly involved with LRH (a founding Scientology member), who is now involved with Marty Rathbun and a “Free Zone” auditor, helped one of her husbands get away with the repeated rape of her daughters and didn’t have one once of empathy for them. One of her daughters gave birth to two children fathered by their step-grandfather. Yes, hard to follow, I know. Somehow this family believed all this incest was “normal”. And if Scientology processes worked, how is it this family had many gambling and drug addicts?
    Had I known about this vicious cycle of abuse, I would never have become involved with anyone linked to it. Foolishly accepting, I thought Scientology was just another religion, like Baptists, or Presbyterians! Now my mission is to keep my children out of the clutches of their grand-mother, off an e-meter, and sane as long as humanly possible. She is elderly and I wait for her to leave this planet and leave our lives, taking her abuse with her.

    • WildaBeast

      What a nightmare to live through, Frank. I’m so sorry you had to endure it. I hope with all my heart that you can keep your children safe, not only from the cult, but from the cycle of abuse.

    • cdub

      That’s a very sad story. Thanks for sharing it. Scientologists are instructed to hide the true nature of their “religion” until it’s too late. Best wishes to your children and your efforts to give them a normal life.

    • Eclipse-girl

      When crimes are committed, scientologists are never allowed to go to the police. they are instructed to have the matter handled by the church. The church always sides with the person who has the most money

      I am sorry for what you endured. Marty seems to have dropped scientology (almost) completely. As much as I do not care for indies, for many who escape their healing, their recovery is a long process and indies allow for that to happen.

      • Frank Lee

        If Marty has “dropped scientology”, why is he still auditing? Many of the Free Zoners still believe LRH and Mary Sue (convicted felons) are their salvation. They want Scientology to be what it was when LRH was alive, they simply don’t like Miscavige.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Correction:
          They want $cientology to be what they imagine it was when LRH was alive.

          It has ALWAYS been worse than you think.

          You know. You really know, unfortunately.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I have no evidence that he is still auditing.

          He has been involved with his wife’s law suit. Does he provide a haven for those who have left? yes he probably does.

          • Mooser

            There was way more implied in the statement than just that Rathbun might still be auditing.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I know. I decided not to bite.

            • Mooser

              In that case, it’s dropped. I don’t hink more explanation will be forthcoming, anyway.
              But, sheesh,, hasn’t the man (Rathbun) got enough trouble, as it is.? Doesn’t seem fair, somehow, but, let it go.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Go read the new post. It is great news for Monique.

        • joan nieman

          Frank, I think it’s mostly because they have put most of their life and life savings into it. They don’t want to admit they were mislead and conned. It may be all they know. I think some will leave it and some will cherish it. I believe also, that more will leave it than stay with it.

        • Mooser

          “If Marty has “dropped scientology”, why is he still auditing? Many of
          the Free Zoners still believe LRH and Mary Sue (convicted felons) are
          their salvation.”

          You seem to be unwilling to distinguish Marty Rathbun, from a lot of other people. Is Rathbun the leader of the “Free Zone” Is he even in it? How is what other “Free Zone” people think contingent on Rathbun? Has Rathbun made such a statement about LRH and Mary SUe?

    • Sejanus

      Holy Horror Show Batman.
      $cientology. Keeping incest in the family.

    • Mooser

      “This woman who was directly involved with LRH (a founding Scientology
      member), who is now involved with Marty Rathbun and a “Free Zone”
      auditor, helped one of her husbands get away with the repeated rape of
      her daughters and didn’t have one once of empathy for them.”

      That’s just a little too tendentious. What do you mean by “involved with Marty Rathbun”? That she reads his blog? Are you sure you don’t want to back the dial off a bit on that one?

      • Frank Lee

        And just why would I “back off” something going on inside my own family? Do you think you know more about it?

        • Spackle Motion

          Mr. Lee, please understand that most of us here have dealt with Scientologists that come to this commenting board with very wild and crazy (and unsubstantiated) stories. The purpose of these stories is to derail conversations that Scientologists do not want us having. I’ve seen it too many times to not question the validity of stories like yours.

          Please do not take it personally and understand that this is the forum to question and analyze doubts, which is what Scientologists are sadly unable to accomplish.

        • Captain Howdy

          If your story is true and it was brought to the attention of law enforcement and the media it would probably make the national news.

          • Probably not. The rape of female children by family members is a very common thing, and bringing it to the attention of authorities is going to put the victims through the wringer with likely nothing at all to show for it. If the authorities bothered to do anything about it in the first place, which they likely would not.

        • Mooser

          “And just why would I “back off” something going on inside my own family? Do you think you know more about it?”

          is now involved with Marty Rathbun” I certainly don’t know more about that than you do. In fact, when that is thrown out there with all the other accusations, I feel like I know less.

      • Captain Howdy

        Agreed, and how come there’s no mention of law enforcement in this house of horrors story?

        • Mooser

          Capn. the thing I found a little tendentious was “who is now involved with Marty Rathbun”
          and that phrase associated with the rest of that stuff. The implication seems to be thet Marty Rathbun played some part in the things Frank describes. I just think that could be unpacked a little.

    • Mooser

      “This woman who was directly involved with LRH (a founding Scientology
      member), who is now involved with Marty Rathbun and a “Free Zone”
      auditor, helped one of her husbands get away with the repeated rape of
      her daughters and didn’t have one once of empathy for them.”

      That’s just a little too tendentious. What do you mean by “involved with Marty Rathbun”? That she reads his blog? Are you sure you don’t want to back the dial off a bit on that one?

    • joan nieman

      Frank you are a decent, strong Human Being. You crushed the head of the snake. You came out ahead of all the insanity.

  • BosonStark

    In Sciloontology everyone strives to become a leader in their “zone,” as in either the battle for you money or “twilight.” I guess it’s both.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Scientology: What is your ruin?

    • 0tessa

      That there is no ‘tech’ in Scientology.

    • TDA1541A

      That the word Scientology is a hollow term in itself.

  • Toni m

    The video from Australia should be repeated over and over and over.. The guy, ex, worked in narconon ” No medical training at all”.
    Yes, narconon and all scientology names w/o cap letters in purpose. It is not my bad grammar. Just clarification.
    I do not make any sense, better go to sleep.

  • It seems like a lot of people have watched the videos. I can’t get them to play and it’s frustrating the living heck out of me. What happened to RuTube…I don’t like change…change is scary…

    • ze moo

      If you let the vids spool up, they play fine. Just hit play after it buffer freezes once or twice, pause it. It then spooled up nicely.

    • Mooser

      That freakin Rutube will bury us!

      • Mooser

        Oh well, I guess nobody remembers poor old Khrushchev, huh?

  • Sejanus

    These videos never disappoint.
    The rambling word collage is a thing of grace and beauty….oh wait did I say grace and beauty?… I meant to say neurotic horse manure coupled with nonsensical argle bargle.
    Did he ever listen to his stuff after it was said or was it just tossed out there and then on to the next turd feast?

    So now he rips on uniforms with gold braid….I guess they never got the memo……….lol

    • TDA1541A
      • Observer

        I like my version.

        • joan nieman

          OBs, you are ingenious!

      • Observer

        I like my version.

    • Mooser

      What I get the huge kick out of is all those poor schmucks sitting there who thought ‘Yeah, me’ an’ L Ron, (or, me an’ Davey) we’re the only two people who really understand Scientology! Why, I should be at the top with LRH in no time at all!’

      How to Succeed in Scientology Without Really Trying.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      there is something about those Make-Believe Navy uniforms, especially the white hats that makes them just look SILLY.

      • kemist

        It’s that weird feeling that, had Hubbard been born just a few decades later, they might have been wearing Star Fleet uniforms.

        • ze moo

          Lroon doesn’t seem to be a velour type guy to me. Maybe a funky Edwardian collar?

          • L. C. Spencer

            Ascots. Always, always, ascots.

          • kemist

            I don’t know. Somehow I feel it would have suited him.

      • Once_Born

        The hats always look too big… and the rest of the outfit resembles a business suit with insignia, and I have marvelled at the comic effect of lanyards big as hawsers earlier. As for military bearing…

        That picture always provokes in me a mixture of amusement, embarrassment (for them) and puzzlement (what do they think they are doing).

        • Mooser

          Every woman there is undoubtly cursing inwardly, “I know the **&^flats and the skirt make my calves look fat and my feet look big” And, you know, they do.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      there is something about those Make-Believe Navy uniforms, especially the white hats that makes them just look SILLY.

    • Sid_Snakey

      It’s almost as if Hubbard had worked as a penny-a-word writer who had trained himself to spontaneously think of science fiction mumbo-jumbo.

      Oh, hang on…

    • chukicita

      Is this one of those photos where some people were removed later?

  • ze moo

    Australia’s Current Affair got it right. They explained the back story and added in the Tom Cruise, 9/11 detox story and really explained the purif. I am glad they drove home the fact that NarCONon is unregulated, unlicensed drug rehab. Loved the mind control stuff. Good job.

  • Sejanus

    I gotta say the part about the crash victim getting the touch assist is priceless.
    Can you imagine EMS and everyone pulling back so some wacko can come up and fondle someones body who is bleeding out?
    That would be lawsuit GOLD!!!!!!
    Hey $cientology keep your hands to yourself!…hmmmm

    $cientology. Why should we keep our hands to ourselves?

    • Artoo45

      Hey! They’re the only ones who can really help . . . really. Just, pow! Whoooosh!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Scientology: the anglerfish of religions

  • Panopea Abrupta

    On the momentous occasion that was Staturday, there were some very busy killer bees out posting on CL

    Let’s give the Asthmatic Dwarf a coughing fit, shall we?

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-62#post-2433905

    • WildaBeast

      Safe.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Scientology: unshakeable faith in an unspeakable fake

    • Observer

      Oooo, that’s a good one!

    • Missionary Kid

      I agree with Obs. I’ve collected it for the list of things said about $cn. I’ll post it later.

      • Toni m

        How can you do it. I can keep straight my grocery list. I always miss something or I buy what is not in there.

        • Missionary Kid

          I have a spreadsheet program that I keep the lists on. I put a new entry at the bottom, then use a function to put things in an alphabetical order, and the entry is put in the right place. For each list, I have a page on the spreadsheet. Eg. one for the key, then another for $cion nicknames, another for things said about $cion, etc. I just have to decide which page to put it on.

          Once I’ve got an entry in alphabetical order, I just copy the page and paste it by editing Disqus over the old entry. Takes about 30-45 seconds, max.

          I make grocery lists and forget to use them, or don’t read them when I go shopping. I’m human, too.

          • Mooser

            Somebody used “Loony Rotten Huckster” the other day I feel bad that I don’t remember who. With its echoes of “Johnny Rotten”, I like it.
            I felt it was, at least, worthy of your perusal.

            • Missionary Kid

              Do you mean for LRH or DM? They both are.

            • Mooser

              Thanks. I thought maybe it was, but I’m glad to know it is. I guess you don’t miss many.

            • Missionary Kid

              Looney Rotten Huckster is already on the list.

    • Miss Tia

      Unshakeable faith
      In the $cientology
      unspeakable fake

  • TheCommodeDoor

    More Hububery – and quackery.

  • richelieu jr

    Very poorly directed, this one…

    Looks like they shot it down by the Cruise kids’ apartments ….

  • Captain Howdy

    Why are all these folks in New South Wales putting their property up for sale? Stand your ground and go Mad Max on the mutants for Xenu’s sake.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I would encourage them to that also.

      Maybe they know the planning councils will give in, or there wont be inspections?

    • Eclipse-girl

      I would encourage them to that also.

      Maybe they know the planning councils will give in, or there wont be inspections?

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      I bet they offer a ton of cash above the market price.

      • Captain Howdy

        No doubt, which is why these folks, these farmers and ranchers, need to organize and put the word out that anyone entertaining an offer from the cult better think long and hard.

        • joan nieman

          Oh! I agree wholeheartedly Captain.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I think some people so not know what they are selling to.

          Is their any evidence of scientology using false names, or third parties in this land grab?

          • Captain Howdy

            “Is their any evidence of scientology using false names, or third parties in this land grab?”

            I wouldn’t doubt it seeing as how that’s what they did in Clearwater.

      • Toni m

        For scio is free money, Slappy little worn did not work for this money. It came from tom, john, kristy and all the others rich whales plus the poor ones that hurry in Thursdays to make their quota and from the ones that lost everything to buy “A piece Of Blue Sky”.
        What doesn’t cost you is easy to let it go.

        • Mooser

          Oh wait, wait a minute while I stop gasping… Sorry, sorry , but I just plotz every time I think of this. It was over at Rinder’s I’m pretty sure, a commenter, not Mike Rinder said it. Anyway, this poor schlemiel was defending, of all things Hubbards fiduciary probity!!!! I’ll never forget the sentence in his comment: ‘When Hubbard died, the Church owed him 17.3 million dollars in fees’, which, apparently he was too disinterested to take. I’ve heard a lot over at the two R’s, but I’ve never seen anybody with the pure, unmitigated whatever-it-is it takes to defend Hubbard against charges of greed!!!!

    • ze moo

      The council voted early this week to deny the NarCONon the zoning change they needed. If zoning change is the proper phrase. They can’t move to the new property.

      • Eclipse-girl

        That was in Warburton. I thought the scientology has been purchasing land in various small towns on Australia. The each have their own counsels

        • Toni m

          Hope all of them do the same. “say no to narconon”

      • Toni m

        Good news.

    • joan nieman

      That’s what I was thinking Captain. Damn it!

  • Artoo45

    “Gold braid is to identify a leader who can’t be identified otherwise . . .” EDIT: Sorry, I didn’t see all the others upthread . . . great minds, and all that.

    • Mark

      Ha! Great minds think alike! (Vide supra).

  • Mark

    Sometimes one gets the impression that Shortarse Miscavige has never listened to anybody, let alone Old Windbags himself (refresh):

  • DamOTclese2

    People mocking the violently insane drug-addled conman on his birthday. (Refresh for image.) Taken from Twitter Ian Puddick
    ‏@ianpuddick

    • Espiando

      I’m a lot more excited about it being Neil Sedaka’s birthday.

  • DamOTclese2

    Also seen on Twitter this morning:

    Kunnar Raiv @Kunnar_Raiv
    Tom Cruise is my spirit animal #Scientology

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Friends, Bunkerites, citizens, lend me your keyboards.
    We have come not to praise Hubbard but to bury him
    The evil that men do lives after them.

    Stamp out bait’n’switch scam ads on CL

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-62#post-2433905

    • Mooser

      Oh, that reminds me, I went over to the Seattle Org. yesterday. Absolutely nothing doing. As far as I could tell, the place was closed. Middle of the day, too.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Business as usual, what.
        Jolly good.

        • Mooser

          From the CL ads, it looks like Redmond is where all the Scientology action is. Now, why would that be? What else happens in Redmond?

          • Panopea Abrupta

            Money, honey – that’s what she wants

          • Missionary Kid

            They probably figured they could snag some Microsoft or Nintendo or some other high tech company money.

            • Mooser

              The Seattle Ideal Org (oddly enough, on “Harrison Street”) is in an area of, oh, light industrial and the heavier shopping. Some kind of outpost on the East side makes sense.

          • SvenBoogie

            It amuses me that you are from Seattle.

            • Mooser

              “It amuses me that you are from Seattle.”

              Sven, it’s much worse than that! I live in the town of Bremerton, county Kitsap. Bremerton is more closely associated with L Ron than Seattle is. From my deck I can see the waters he sailed (Liberty Bay) and if I stand on tip-toe, the Yacht Club he kept his boat at.
              I think some of the addresses he lived at in Bremerton are still there.
              Why, I think it was in Kitsap that Ron got sued for non-support and divorce by a wife. Also Ron’s father worked at PSNS, and I do believe Ron contracted his Navy business at the Navy base here.
              So am I surrounded by echoes of Hubbard every where I look! And our sewer plant over in Gorst is faulty, and when the wind blows the right way it, I can almost smell him. It’s eerie.

          • Espiando

            A level of evil that Scientology can only dream of.

    • Mooser

      This is what I mean about the Seattle CL ads! See, the Red-X aggregates ads with a “206” (Seattle) area code, and “425” area code. This one has an address in Redmond
      Is that Corporate or Indie? Is the “Art” approach used elsewhere. I’d really hate to think there’s more than one Org in the area.

      • SeattleSkeptic

        Looks like they have rented a small office for a mission in an office park over in downtown Redmond, near the Microsoft Main campus. When you put the address into google you get this for the “Church of Scientology Mission of the Eastside”

        http://www.yelp.com/biz/church-of-scientology-mission-of-the-eastside-redmond

        • Mooser

          That’s it. Shucks, I was hoping for an all-out Indie v. Corporate shootout. Nope, it’s just a way of getting near Microsoft, as you say.

    • aegerprimo
      • Panopea Abrupta

        Not a $cilon ad – more an Ayn Rand libertarian elitist twat ad (does have the word Scientology in it.)

        • aegerprimo

          Oops.

  • Nice articel published today in Germany. “Scientology failed in Berlin – Even the scratch paper is shorted”

    http://www.rbb-online.de/panorama/beitrag/2014/03/Scientology_Berlin.html

    – staff down from 130 to 60 -70
    – no payment
    – most Scientologists live on poverty level
    – Org financially stricken

    Honk against Scientology 🙂

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Scientology!

      Famous for “withholding” the toilet paper worldwide.

    • Mark

      Aber auch deutsche Scientologen haben noch genügend WC-Papier, ja?

      • Ja, aber sie müssen beide Seiten des WC-Papiers verwenden 🙂 (the must use both sides of the toilet paper)

        • Mooser

          “both sides of the toilet-paper” seems a useful expression, and I intend to adopt it.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Very nice. This is NOT a tabloid reporting hearsay. This is from RBB, Rundfunk Berlin-Bavaria, essentially a state-run network. It is very prestigious. And the person they quote is not just some Anon or disgruntled former clam. It is Stefan Bartel of the Leitstelle für Fragen zu Sekten. This is essentially the committee that keeps track of religious issues for the German Senate.

      For him to flatly state, “Scientology has failed in Berlin,” is a pretty devastating blow. That he goes on and offers details is just icing on the cake.

      He does express concern that Scientology is now targeting German youth. The adults, he concludes, are a lost cause for the transparently evil organization.

  • mook

    Dumbass reality star promoting vaccines cause autism bs started by Jenny McCarthy. Are those groups she listed CoS front groups?
    http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2014/03/jay-cutler-joins-irresponsible-doooonnnntttt-caaaarreee-vaccinations-herd.html

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Andrew Wakefield is the former doctor whose fraudulent study sparked the autism-vaccination scare.
      He has the dubious distinction of being considered the “worst doctor on earth.”

      He lost his license to practice medicine in the UK and now lives in the USA where he is not licensed.
      He has numerous associations with the $cilons – primarily Kelly Preston and Dan Stradford.

      http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30789&start=15

      • kemist

        He too is even worse than you think.

        The main motivation behind the bogus paper was to sell a competing vaccine.

        He conveniently forgot this in the part of his paper where he was supposed to disclose conflicts of interest.

        He also performed useless, risky, invasive and painful exams on autistic kids (coloscopies).

      • lucille austero

        Interesting…I hadn’t made the anti-vax Co$ connection…not good…

    • kemist

      Alas, anti-vax lunacy recognises no border in religious or political affiliation.

      It even affects relatively highly educated people.

      Fear, especially of things most people don’t understand, sells very well.

      • Missionary Kid

        “Fear, especially of things most people don’t understand, sells very well.” Co$ understands that very well.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Still my favorite diagram, although Stevie Wonder said it with melody and rhythm:
        “When you believe in things that you don’t understand, Then you suffer
        Superstition ain’t the way, no, no, no”

        http://i.imgur.com/pk51k8Q.png

        • Mooser

          That’s a great diagram. Look who is right in the nexus, or whatever that spot is called which includes all of the others. What is that spot called? The V-spot? No, that’s not a good guess, is it.

    • aegerprimo

      GHAH! The anti-vaccine movement is not just Scientologists – yet they are people tricked by and promoting pseudo-science.

  • kemist

    Marty has published the document which OSAbots are supposed to use to make their little idiotic graphs on Staturday :

    http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2014/03/14/enemies-of-scientology-depopularized-to-the-point-of-total-obliteration

    They has points !

    • kemist

      Daily Internet Report 5 points
      Internet Sit Alerts 2 points
      Summary report produced 2 points
      Infringement alert to Legal 2 points
      Penalty: Failure to predict an Internet attack that arrived unheralded and as a surprise is penalized with – 30 points.

      • Minion Gayle

        I am so creeped out by that cat.

        • Sherbet

          I’m not creeped out, but it looks human. What a strange face.

          • pronoia

            It is the smudge on it’s chinny chin chin.

            • Sherbet

              I think you’re right, pronoia.

            • Mooser

              None of my cats, and I have three, can make a face anything like that cat. But I’d be the first to say that they are pretty shallow, so I don’t know what a cat with more on its mind could do.

          • Minion Gayle

            That’s what creeps me out. It looks like a human face on a cat. *shudder*

        • aegerprimo

          That cat is AWESOME – that’s “serious cat” and appears in many memes.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Penalty: Failure to predict an internet attack

        NSA must be very down-stat this decade then.

    • cdub

      So we’re all contributing daily to the misery of OSA staffers in this department?
      http://markrathbun.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/invest-statistics.pdf

    • pronoia

      Now that is an amazing document! Now I am going to assume that this is being aired out so that DM’s lawyers will get a sense of the kind of thing that will be presented in court. I imagine that it will be presented as an example of LRH “scripture” or “doctrine” (ok – “tech”) which must be slavishly followed — doctrine/scripture/tech which is of course DM’s job — as chief pot and bottle washer of RTC — has to make sure remains pure and unsquirrelled. Haha.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        I agree with you.
        Hard to argue that the Squirrel-busters are not directly issued from Miscavige and his “Church”.
        Based on HCOB’s from 1966 and in a 2006 document too.
        If it was true for 40 years, was it all suddenly stopped in the last few years?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        There are some juicy and relevant pieces in that doc. One specifically awarded Bonus points if an action or article additionally forwarded “religious recognition”. Now, if a group was an actual religion, why would they have to staff and train and fund an entire intelligence and attack unit to Make people believe it’s a religion and harass, hunt, stalk and try to destroy them if they don’t?

        Now you know why every cherch response includes a statement about how religious they are, as well as expending square feet. It’s a bonus stat. Tabasco sauce this week for your rice and beans. 4 hours sleep instead of 3. An hour to do laundry and 5 minutes for a shower. Yippee.

    • BigMcLargeHuge

      “DEPOPULARIZED TO THE POINT OF TOTAL OBLITERATION”

      If this wasn’t behind some truly atrocious conduct it would be hysterical.

      • aegerprimo

        You said that right!

    • Captain Howdy

      That is a major revelation and insane beyond belief.

      Way to go Marty.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        It’s good to have recent docs. The earlier GO/OSA and justice hat packs were all pretty mind boggling and just as paranoid and hell bent on tyrannical, fanactical world domination. If only these were passed out for Introduction to scientology courses, no one would have ever stayed. Well, except your usual tyrannical, fanactical world domination wanna be’s.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      “It explicitly states that when you cannot shut up a whistleblower by
      costing him or her their job you then effectively attack that which he
      or she most values (in most cases, that means spouses, children and
      other family members of the target)”

      And that’s just the tip. Please bookmark the Invest pack pdf soext time someone comments here about how OSA is no big deal and tries to denigrate any of us who at least try to throw out safety suggestions, you can simply post the link.

      THIS is what all media outlets and researchers (are factcheckers extinct) need to have, learn and know cold when putting anything up in print or any media format. Maybe then they will understand how often they are manipulated into playing scientology’s script and knowingly or not, deflecting from the crimes, abuses and human rights violations. Next time there’s international coverage of John Travolta’s verbal footbullets, include a clip from his and Kelly’s recent Narconon promotions and then list out the number of lawsuits and deaths.

      http://markrathbun.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/invest-statistics.pdf

  • And I don’t rent cars!

    I stumbled on this LRH audio this week on Rutube (video is merely a still image of the Saint Hill Special Briefing Course, number 27, with the date, July 1963). I’m speechless. I’m speechless because I am so incensed, angry, outraged, etc., that I can’t write a coherent post without a rant that I can’t seem to finish. It’s my ongoing year long rant, probably never going to be posted, about LRH, Miscavige, Dianetics, $cientology, and auditing BT’s in lieu of proper medical and psychiatric care. When I start, I simply can’t finish it. With compassion for all of you in mind, I’ll spare you.

    Well, OK, maybe I’d say this, “No wonder the AMA tried to shut LRH down. He should have been arrested for practicing medicine without a license and charged him with homicide for all the people who died from venereal disease and/or infected others as a result of his criminally insane “theories” about root causes of illness and disease. Imagine, as best as I can understand through repeatedly listening of this poor quality audio, he is briefing people that No Sex = VD! He says, “The cure become the illness… the illness becomes the cure…” and other dangerous and deadly medical bullshit.

    And David Miscavige should be brought up on the same charges for perpetuating this through the continued sales of the Dianetics and OT levels. No wonder there seems to be a disproportionate number of former and current members also dying of cancer. Non medical treatment is built into Dianetics and the steps up the bridge (this is especially evident once starting OT IV). Miscavige, as head of this organization, and any other $cientologist who is ‘counseling” anyone with any physical or mental symptoms is still practicing medicine without a license. And they should be arrested!

    If the IRS, the Dept of Justice, Homeland Security, or any other U.S. government agency that has the power and authority to shut this dangerous and Human Rights abusive, criminal organization are too cowardly to get involved, then the American Medical Association and/or the American Psychiatric Association should shut this dangerous practice down and disband this organization. Aren’t there any laws in the US that can be brought to bear on this, irrespective of the cult’s “religious” designation? One only needs to read Dianetics and read up to OT level IV (see Tony’s excellent “Up the Bridge” posts above) to see where the track up the bridge goes off the rails and this “derailment” is actually causing the early and preventable deaths of its members.”

    OK, I’ve got much more to say but I don’t think banging this hard on this keyboard as I type this is going to do much good. So here’s the damn video 🙂

    http://rutube.ru/video/f6957bf439fbafa5e8461e47e48f3271/?ref=endroll

    P.S. When he mentioned”Tiny,” who thought he had a venereal disease, I initially thought Hubbard was referring to Miscavige!

    • SvenBoogie

      One of the big problems with the idea of the cult facing any government scrutiny at this point is that it would open up the history of $ci and the IRS. I have a feeling those in power are very reluctant to draw attention to how the IRS basically bent over when blackmailed and just handed them tax exempt status and official classification as a religion.

      • ze moo

        Neither the IRS nor any other US government agency can ‘certify’ any thing as a ‘religion’. The IRS only gave the clampire a 501c3 tax exemption. True, such exemptions usually only go for religious purposes (catholics, protestants, etc) but IRS caved only because of 2 thousand clam lawsuits. Stories of blackmail abound, but nothing has ever been proven or even fleshed out. I would hope that after 30 years. some credible story would come out, but nothing has.

        The IRS probably doesn’t want to revisit the 93 agreement because it would be expensive and the clampire is not known for going along quietly. The 93 agreement has been violated in many ways, most having to do with the current corporate structure of the ‘chirch’. There are supposed to be checks and balances on the clam führer, but in reality there are none.

        How much ‘inurement’ does MIscavige really enjoy? He is supposed to get a 200k per year salary, but how much else does the clampire pay for? With paying clams becoming increasingly rare, the IRS may just be waiting for the implosion, rather then causing the implosion.

        A joint investigation between the IRS and FDA (food and drug admin) may be the best hope. Clams continue to make health claims that are illegal under US law. Such claims are made verbally, so getting proof that stands up in court is going to be difficult.

        • Eclipse-girl

          According to Marty, and Janet Reitman, Fred Goldberg had several meeting with David and Marty. Fred had a special committee of people to work out a settlement, and no one who had been working on the case against scientology was a member.

          I agree that the 2300 or so frivolous lawsuits were causing issues for the IRS. I still think Dave and PIs may have found some dirt on Fred.

          • ze moo

            That remains a real possibility. But remember that appearance and having a reputation as the biggest bullies on the block is very important to the clams. How much is hype? Given past performance, no one can really rule out blackmail.

        • Mooser

          “Such claims are made verbally, so getting proof that stands up in court is going to be difficult.”

          Well, the machines in the Super Powers building aren’t going to go up in a puff of hot air, are they? And the FDA been through this before: it doesn’t matter what they call it, if it promises benefits like, uses machines like, and costs like a medical procedure, it is one.

    • GalacticGreg

      >>>Aren’t there any laws in the US that can be brought to bear on this, irrespective of the cult’s “religious” designation?

      The Headley’s, always on top of their game playing at their best, as it were, made what I believe is the 1st foray into those areas of possible vulnerability for the chirch of $cientology, which are ‘irrespective of relig desig.’ That is: their suit was about *human trafficking*. Alas, they lost that effort.

      But I’ve been hoping since then, that other suits in non-religious areas of contention will be brought. And strike the 1st blow into the heart of the degraded deluded Cult that calls itself a “religion”, $cientology Inc.

      • Eclipse-girl

        If I recall correctly, and I was not watching that trial, witnesses for scientology were lying. If it can proved at a later date that witnesses were committing perjury in one case (Monique Rathbun), can it be used to reopen the Headley’s case?

      • ze moo

        The FBI was doing an investigation, I believe that human trafficking was one the main issues. Holding people against their will was another issue. Eventually, the exs convinced the FBI that any raid on the hole would only produce people who said they wanted to be there. After some publicity about the investigation, the matter was dropped.

        The clampire imports lots of non-us workers on ‘religious study’ visas. If the ‘worker’ leaves, don’t they have to report that fact to Immigration? How many such imports split and get real jobs after burning out at ‘flag’? That would seem to be another approach, but that is Immigrations job, not the FBI’s.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    RED-X RED-X RED-X

    Getting like time to trawl the murky waters of CL again.

    https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-62#post-2433905

    ty Mark

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Haiku for Tory 😉

    Toc Toc staccato
    Woodpecker hunting insects:
    Miscavige, beware.

    • Sarah James

      And a red head at that!

    • Mooser

      Only a churl, nay, an oafish churl, won’t automatically up-vote pretty birdie pictures, and that one’s got it all.
      EDIT: I don’t mean that, I just wanted to say “churl” all of a sudden. Sorry.

  • Toni m

    So much fun to read but so little time to do it. I saw again the Australian video and love it. Hope they show in USA TV, for more people to see it. Thank you Mr Ortega.
    Have a good day Bunkeritos.

  • GalacticGreg

    The blatant reality of the behavior of the little sh1t, psycho-sociopath Captain David Miscavige, Sea Org, cult of $cientology Inc. From nearly 3 years ago:

    “Last night I went to dinner with an Ex SO [Sea Org] member that I had not seen for 30 years. It was a remarkable dinner. Here was a guy who worked like a dog in the Sea Org, had production 2nd to none, a household name in Sea Org circles and he told me the story of being locked in a room, waiting for HOURS with no food or water til David Miscavige entered the room with an entourage. This PUNK [Miscavige] always has a gang around him for protection. DM never engages in brutality one on one. He is always surrounded by numbers and a gang for his THUGGERY and ABUSE. He punched this SO member in the jaw with a heavy blow and then spat on him. There was no Committee of Evidence. There was no explanation on what the Sea Org member did or did not do. No charges were ever brought. There was just violence and ABUSE from the top command structure. …This veteran ex SO member has never told his story on the web. He took a Miscavige assault and suffered in silence.”

    — Karen De La Carriere/Jentzsch (LRH-trained Class XII C/S, former wife of Heber Jentzsch, President Church of Scientology International) posted this comment on March 24, 2011.

  • Ellen Fürst

    “success congress”? just read an article: http://www.rbb-online.de/panorama/beitrag/2014/03/Scientology_Berlin.html, they are nearly broke in Berlin, startet with 130 workers (article calls them workers) seven years ago, now there are 60-70 left, the once who left telling about 80 hours work a week, cult paid 20 Euro a week, telling about 10 persons living in a 2 bedroom-appartement (3 Zimmer Wohnung means bedroom, living room, acually third room for e.g. child or office), telling about even got no money for their children anymore, telling about riding public transport with out buying a ticket, telling that cult asked them why they are in need of money, they are saving the world, they don´t need opulence (!), they are telling about not having money for their children (!!!) and Germany is a “Sozialstaat”, paying child benefit…so what happened to child benefit?

    • Radar-Screen

      When the German government announced that they would no longer watch scientology, the church seemed to have talked about it as a victory while the facts on the ground seem to be that as far as the German government is concerned, the church is in effect dead in that country.

      • Ellen Fürst

        German Government just wanted to reduce (!) the watching because cult is not that threatening anymore and there are other groups which are more dangerous, so they wanted to reduce watching the cult and put more money in watching other groups, cult had 4500 members in Germany but meanwhile 4000 left, if Verfassungsschutz is right…and they won`t reduce the watching of the cult if the latest news are right…

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    We’ve been wrong all along. It’s not lying liars who lie, it’s leading leaders who lead. Of course, it all makes so much sense now. Where do I sign up?

  • TXCowgirl

    There is an upscale shopping mall in The Woodlands, TX (40 minutes north of Houston). Today I discovered there is a store front above Anthropoligie called The Success Center of the Woodland’s Mall. It offers all of the Red-X-ified self-help classes offered by Orgs and Missions. I’m going to check it out sometime soon. Have any of you guys come across a similar “store” in your area? I googled around and The Woodlands location is the only one I could find online.

    http://www.successme.com/wp/?page_id=19

    http://www.successme.com/wp/?page_id=17

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Thanx, TX.
      Doesn’t Jenna Miscavige’s sister live near there, or is it Kubrick’s daughter?
      I’m sure I’ve seen that recently.

      From your 2nd link (their FAQ) :

      What kind of people seeks your services?

      • TXCowgirl

        “Basically, the people that contact us come from all walks of life.”
        Soooooo, everyone? Grand claims, indeed.

        • BumpIt McCarthy

          Grand clams indeed.

      • Eclipse-girl

        Jenna does not have a sister.

        Someone wrote the other day that Sally Miscavige, as Davey sis in law was in TX. If so that would be Ron’s first wife and no relation to Jenna

        Vivian Kubrick lives in TX, too.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Thanx, E Girl.
          Getting the whole tribe all mixed up!

          • Eclipse-girl

            I know. it is easy to do.

    • GalacticGreg

      Ah! The new Div-6, bodies in the shop. Hubbard’s method is dead. People don’t gather round Davey’s stupid video presentations shown in local Orgs the world over, either, so that’s dead.

      This- is the 21st Century design. And hope ‘the anti-cult-of-$cientology’ movement can help stop it !

    • TXCowgirl

      • Hingle McCringleberry

        I found the school! I was called Tanglewood Academy and there was all kinds of bitching about it being a study tech school. Apparenly, they’ve shut it down and reopened it as a preschool under the same name. Here is a review when is was an actual school:
        http://www.citysearch.com/profile/9909604/houston_tx/tanglewood_academy.html

        And here’s what they are now:
        http://tanglewoodacademyhouston.com/

        This school used to go up to the sixth grade and there was a website a few months ago from the lady that ran the school extolling the virtues of LR Hubster. If I can find it again, I’ll post it. These maniacs have no business in Houston.

        • TXCowgirl

          A friend lives just down the street and I’ve been by it many times.

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      And I thought the only cult presence in H-Town was the mission four blocks from my house at Fondren and Westheimer. . . So tiny that most of my friends cant find it. The Woodlands isnt on my day to day radar, but I’ll keep an eye out in the malls closer to me. That sucks.

      • TXCowgirl

        That mission is in such a random spot. NO foot traffic. I grew up 2 miles from that intersection. Have you seen the covert video of the mission taken from the parking lot? Kind of funny in places.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_onEjDws1A

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That is AWESOME!!! The ghetto iron bars are still there, just like that. However, that big blank white wall to the left is now covered in banners for a latin dance club in the same strip center, which is strangely invisible, despite a high car traffic intersection. What’s not clear in the video is that they’ve built a smaller strip with a Starbucks, a Turkish restaurant, and a kolache/bakery place since this was filmed, making the Co$ entrance even more obscure. Last I heard, they only now open from 7pm-10pm M-F. They’ll have better luck in the Woodlands/Kingwood with former Christians that feel disgusted by poor people.

          • TXCowgirl

            Cracks me up that the kid is wearing a South Park t-shirt while IN THE MISSION!!!!!!!!

            • Hingle McCringleberry

              Very true, but this video shows more activity than I’ve ever seen there, and I drive by every day, four years running. Otherwise, there are some pages on the interwebs regarding a study tech school that operated out of unitarian church in galleria. The pages are still up. Pretty awful stuff. I’ve gone by the mission three times in the last 6 months and its never been open.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              That’s too much irony, even for a hipster.

        • Sherbet

          I loved this comment to that video: “They have over 3 million photos of people wearing masks,all for FAIR GAME PURPOSES,tell me how FUCKING STUPID CAN THEY BE,recognising just one is IMPOSSIBLE,jesus,talk about idiots.”

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      That was run by two scientologists, Dr Sherry Durrett, chiropractor and Lance Carlton Durrett, who ran a Detox Center at 26603 Interstate 45 North Woodlands, TX 77385 showing for 2009. Dr Durrett is also showing in Carbonado, WA so if its the same, perhaps they’ve moved. This Success Center shows up at least since 2004 in WISE directory.

      I remember seeing this place very recently when researching Gene Zharkin, the scientologist who recently died jumping off the Clearwater building (still have seen no updates). Gene did a lot of WISE biz marketing consultant type work and did seminars at the Success Center in Woodland Malls in 2007.

      http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/people.php?n=d

      http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/people.php?n=d

      • TXCowgirl

        Thx for the facts.

  • ze moo

    Nazanin Boniadi has been promoted to ‘Homeland’ regular. Eat your heart out Tom Cruise.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/homeland-ups-nazanin-boniadi-series-688726

    How would John Travolta pronounce her name?

    • TXCowgirl

      Bwa-hahahaha!!

    • Radar-Screen

      Nazanin Boniadi = Nicolas Brandon-Lee . There is a site to “Travoltify” your name. It is hilarious.

    • pronoia

      Haha. She deserves it because it is an interesting character and she plays it well. And I think I read somewhere that Katie Holmes might have a new series on ABC. Hahahaha!

  • Tony Ortega

    Big story coming in a few minutes.

    • TXCowgirl

      ^^^^^^^^^^^

    • DamOTclese2

      New flash: Scientology Asshole Helena Kobrin Climbs Out Of The Hole Long Enough to Sue Award-Winning Journalist Tony Ortega for Copyright Infringement of Frothingly Insane L. Ron Hubbard Kook Spew Video!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Refresh button getting a workout here…

    • cs sarabia

      Dang. Working on a Friday night? Or are 12 hr. work days the norm?

    • Sarah James

      David Miscavige and Charles Manson are brothers? I knew it!:-)

      • DamOTclese2

        News Flash: Tom Cruise Sues To Get His Money Back. Says He Is NOT Infested With Invisible Murdered Space Aliens After All.

        • Sarah James

          Big Pharma has a spray for that.

          • Jgg2012

            David Miscavige quits Scientology; decides that Teegeack is hopeless.

            • Sarah James

              He will be missed, said no one on any planet ever.

    • Science Doc

      You mean I have to stop reading Bare Faced Messiah?

      • Sherbet

        Grab a bookmark.

    • Big stories coming from Tony Ortega makes me angry. REAL angry.

      • Sarah James

        Dianetics can cure your anger problem Tommy dear.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      It’s up.

  • aegerprimo
    • AnonRedX

      RED X Alert New entries in Orange County and Seattle as per ForLease
      Please go to the list and find them

    • aegerprimo

      Freeloader’s debt is not enforceable.
      Get help to leave the Sea Org.
      Call 1-866-X-SeaOrg

  • Sherbet

    BTW, the Australian video about narconon is very good.

    • pronoia

      Yup! LOVE that they showed the ashtray shouting part of the “treatment.” Also thought the ambiguously gay guy under the red umbrella was interesting.

      • Sherbet

        I think that the show’s producers took more risks than any US report I’ve seen on the same subject. And they spent a good chunk of time on it.

  • Sherbet

    Anybody want to play cards while we’re waiting?

    • Sarah James

      Pass, I’m going to take more cold medicine. A real scion no no.

      • Sherbet

        OK, I cheat anyway.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    NEW ARTICLE UP!

    (Straight up and vertical!)

  • Anonymous Confused Person

    The background music kills me.

  • Funnybroad

    As a PMP and Prince2 certified Project Manager, that was painful to watch. Were some of those scenes filmed in Texas? I thought I recognized that freight train with the grain elevator next to it.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    I twinned for a time with Clark Morton on the RPF (then we broke up and John Brousseau twinned with Clark). Leanne Potter was my superior, when I first joined ASI, she was in the same division as me, two bosses above me. Jay Moritz, I remember her as a trainee in Int Training Org before she was promoted to Golden Era Production base.

    I thought I saw others in this video, which dates this video to being quite a few years ago, since some Int staff became exs and left.

    One thing I took from this video, is the clip about there sometimes having to be one person to decide.

    That clip to me was grounds for showing, since it pats Miscavige on the back and the “only one” top decider for the movement.

    The background of the “AVC” position, and why all the important projects and major decisions rise to Miscavige’s plate, I don’t know how this hasn’t become more common knowledge, all the administrative paper trail that leads all to him, and he’s RTC, and he’s approving and disapproving all CSI committee (the Exec Strata and Watchdog Committee strategic decision making is ALL dominated and only given final say when Miscavige okays all major decisions).

    “Only One” is a Hubbard negative phrase that struck me as including a deluded autocrat, which Miscavige is.

  • George Hamar

    Wow – freaky – I happen to know Aleah Callahan and her mother Maggie. Or I should say, I knew them many a moon ago. I used to work with Maggie at a Scn school, and I was actually Aleah’s supervisor. This was way back in the 80s in Vancouver Canada. It was so weird to see her in that video.lad

    I am so glad I’ve been out 19 years now, but I feel sorry for them. I really hope they’ve seen the light.

  • John Andra

    Narcanon is a front group for Scientology…which means it ends up being about your money.