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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Dates for Scientology Events Announced Last Night: Super Power in Two Weeks!

TentKSWMultiple sources sent us several different internal church messages this morning which all claim that last night at Scientology graduation ceremonies the church finally announced dates for upcoming events to be held in its giant tent in Clearwater, Florida.

We can imagine that today, Scientologists around the country are scrambling to get flights and accommodations, because they’re expected to be in the Florida town in less than two weeks for the start of a series of big parties that will be unfolding through the end of the year.

We’re so excited we can hardly stand it! So here is the schedule that we’ve been able to put together from multiple messages from several different sources…

Things will kick off with a full weekend dedicated to the Golden Age of Technology Phase II and the opening of the Super Power Building, as parties are held on Friday, November 15 to Sunday, November 17.

“The recommended arrival date is latest between the 13th and 14th of November. This will give you adequate time to settle into your accommodations, route in and prepare for the epic activities that are to come. The attire for two of these events will be formal-wear and one will be business wear. Of course bring all else you may want to be comfortable for your stay at Flag,” reads an invite for the event.

Then, two weeks later, another weekend will be dedicated to the annual gala of the International Association of Scientologists (IAS), which normally was held in October in England in the big tent which was moved to Florida this summer.

“The IAS Anniversary will be held LIVE at Flag on Friday the 29th of November 2013, followed by the seminar and Patron Ball on Saturday the 30th,” reads an announcement we were forwarded.

An immediate question that strikes us — will some or all of the people who are asked to fly in for the GAT II/Super Power event on Nov 15/16/17 be expected to stay over for a couple of weeks to attend the IAS events on Nov 29/30?

And finally, one more date to announce: Scientologists are being told that the New Year’s Eve celebration in Clearwater will be held on Friday, December 27.

As for the tent itself, Charlie Frago of the Tampa Bay Times reported this week that the city is determined to fine Scientology for its draping which placed a giant “KSW” (for “Keep Scientology Working”) on the tent in violation of the city’s tough signage rules. He also revealed that Scientology apparently plans to replace the KSW drape with one or more others. (Any guesses for which slogan is next?)

We talked with city planning director Michael Delk earlier this week, and confirmed with him that fines of up to $250 a day is all the city can really do at this point. When we asked him if Clearwater could actually seize the draping and pull it down, he started talking about court orders, and we got the message: all Miscavige really has to do is write a (rather small) check and can put any draping or sign he wants on the thing.

Anyway, we’re thrilled to finally get these dates, and we’re looking forward to reports from our Clearwater readers as these events unfold.

Since Scientology has asked for no permits from the city on these dates (and according to a city official we talked to, it’s too late for them to ask now), there will be no official street or sidewalk closures. We figure that may make for a fairly potent mix of gawkers, bystanders, and Scientologists as they crowd the downtown’s sidewalks. We don’t envy the Clearwater police their task of keeping it all from boiling over.

…and by that we just mean that things could get crowded. We look forward to reports from our Clearwater folks, but please, don’t antagonize the clams. And don’t argue with the cops.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 2, 2013 at 09:40

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  • sugarplumfairy

    Lol.. How exciting.. Wonder when they’ll crank out their first superman..

    • dwayners13 .

      You mean after Miscavige? I would pay money to see that little guy spin on the gyroscope.

      • sugarplumfairy

        And I would pay money NOT to see him on the oiliness table..

        • Donut

          Thanks for that implant :)

        • dwayners13 .

          I was kind of disappointed when I saw a photo of the oiliness table. I pictured a large flat table covered in crisco vegetable oil & that people would lay on the table & try to move around & pick up objects also covered in oil &/or try to get off the table. I’m not sure my concept would provide anyone with super powers, but it sure would be a lot of fun.

          • sugarplumfairy

            But it’d be pretty darn difficult to get insurance..

          • Exterrier

            I pictured it being the very last ride on the Super Power tour of processes, right before being handed your success story form and your routing form to the reg for your next action. Sort of prepping you for the next screwing you are about to get from the reg’s.

            • sugarplumfairy

              “Right before being handed your success story form..” Lol.. I postulated an elevator and what do you know? The elevator door opened! Voila!

            • Exterrier

              Maybe there is a trap door, and your oiled, cash relieved running program depleted body husk is simply dropped and slid down a long plastic tube that runs out to the far harbor past the breakwater, after, of course, your assets are signed over to Author’s Services. After Stupor Powers, even the church might figure you’ve had enough. This does Marching Morons one better.

      • SciWatcher

        Hahaha, love the image!

  • aquaclara

    Wow! Your inside scoops are delicious! November will be interesting, to say the least.

  • Sydjazz

    http://myjeremy.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/october-24-2010-three-long-years-since-weve-seen-you/ i just came across this blog. Some very interesting stats. Would love to get your opinions

    • aquaclara

      Oh, how sad. A mom who has lost her son to Scientology’s disconnection practices. This just rips me apart. Damn cult. I wonder if she pops in here?

    • Tony Ortega
      • Sydjazz

        It is just one big circle that goes back to tony :)

      • sugarplumfairy

        Jeeeeez.. This is a new story to me.. Jeeeeeeezzz..

        • stillgrace2

          Hello SPF! You’ve already made me chuckle out loud a couple of times this morning, as I try and catch up with comments after my week in Columbia … and recover from my incredibly delayed and rerouted journey home yesterday.

          I remember the Little’s story. I went back to re-read it and saw one of Jefferson Hawkin’s posts that explains the OSA sock puppets that visit the Bunker and other sites.

          I think it’s worthwhile to re-post it here, as it seems Davey is upping the ante these days. It will help us deal with some of our “special visitors” of late. Here it is (edited only for formatting of space), I hope this is OK with you, Mr. Hawkins.

          Jefferson Hawkins Jan 18, 2012

          Just a word about the OSA sock puppets who post here and on other forums. Realize that these are not real people, they are synthetic people. They are, in a very real sense, puppets.

          Sure, there are real people who write these things under pseudonyms, and those real people have actual names and personalities. In fact, if you met them socially you’d probably have a nice conversation and find them pleasant. You might even like them.

          I’ve had many pleasant talks, for instance, with Gloria Idda, one of the people tasked with monitoring these forums and “handling” them. She’s a nice lady, good sense of humor. She loves her daughter (and here’s a key difference: I can say nice things about them, but they could never say nice, or even charitable, things about me or any “enemy”).

          But Gloria Idda is not allowed to be Gloria Idda on these forums, or to converse normally or give her actual opinions. She has to become this fake, unpleasant, combative persona with pat, Church-approved statements.

          The burnout rate on these people is high. Because of the nature of their position, they have to actually read the articles and read the comments, something ordinary Scientologists are forbidden from doing. And so the cognitive dissonance builds up and up. Their own questions and doubts build up and up – naturally.

          Hubbard tried to handle this by insisting that anyone on“external lines” (as it is called) be audited at least once a week to handle any doubts or other “lower conditions” they might get into. But even so, they eventually burn out, and either get assigned to another position or sent to the RPF – or they blow.

          And someone else takes over running the sockpuppet – maybe withouteven changing the name. And if they do blow and end up on the outside anddecide to tell what they know – well, they just become another “enemy,” another “lying apostate.”And so it goes.

          These people really have very little information about whatgoes on above their pay grade. They don’t know how the money is handled. They don’t know what goes on at the highest levels of the Church. They are told to deny everything and they deny everything. They are told to attack the whistleblowers and so they attack.

          What do they really think? What does Gloria Idda really think? Who knows? But I guarantee you, they know, in their heart of hearts, that something is wrong with their church.

          So argue with the sock puppet all you want. But remember, that is what you are doing. Arguing with a puppet. And that’s kind of silly.Because they put that puppet there for you to argue with, and, they hope, derail and confuse the conversation and veer it off-topic.

          The best thing to do is keep talking, keep exposing what you know, keep blowing the whistle. Because that’s how you eventually get through to that person behind the puppet.” (End of Mr. Hawkin’s post)

          Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Good advice then, and good advice now!! And thank you, SPF, for your posts, for making me smile and chuckle constantly, and letting me piggyback here.

          • sugarplumfairy

            That post is a keeper, StillGrace.. Thanks!

    • Robert Eckert
      • joan nieman

        It was very sad Robert and just one of many stories of disconnected families.

  • AnyOldName1

    It is about time!

  • Sydjazz

    As tory said in her video. Let the circus begin :D

    • DamOTclese2

      Exactly! :) Now we get to see body counts, another update on how many customers Miscavige still has. :)

  • NOLAGirl

    The crazed emails with “You MUST GET HERE” in them are coming soon…I can feel it. :)

  • dwayners13 .

    My guess is that the church will replace the “KSW” logo on top of the tent with, “VISA & MASTERCARD . . . The official cards of the IAS” I’m sure the “reggers will be out in full force to at the airport to greet the incoming passengers.

    • NOLAGirl

      Or with “E.I.C.” for “Eat It Clearwater” :D

      • dwayners13 .

        They mostly likely will reg people by telling them their donation will be used to pay the fines, then collect 1000 times more than the fine.

        • NOLAGirl

          Without a doubt.

          • RMycroft

            When their permits run out in January, and they still haven’t removed the tents, maybe it’ll jump to $500/day?

            • Jon Hendry

              Clearwater really ought to modify the penalty to be $10 per square foot above the limit, per day, or more. It’d raise more revenue from organizations that are willing to eat the fines, and it would be more of a disincentive.

              Wouldn’t help in the case of this tent cover thing, but it might prevent further shenanigans. Or raise money for the city.

          • monkeyknickers

            You are a fab lady, you are. :)

        • DamOTclese2

          Yeah, demanding that their KSR crime is “religious freedom” that the marks must pay for.

      • joan nieman

        Another good one Nola!

      • cicely neville

        hahahaha

    • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

      Or, maybe . . . . BARGAINS GALORE OUT OUR GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE!!!111!!!

      • cicely neville

        We can dream…..

      • dwayners13 .

        Buy 1 Sec Check, get 1 free!

        • Valerie Ross

          Sec checks are never free. Buy one sec check get next one at double the price.

          • FromPolandWithLove

            Scientology is always more expensive than you think

          • valshifter

            with sec checks people are basically paying to be blackmailed later on, by the cult, how evil and treacherous is that?

      • villagedianne

        Garbage can, water hose, and sign that says “Lesbo”! Going fast at Low Low Price!!!
        At Crazy Davie our prices are INSANE!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Reggers? I read that as “beggars.”

      • dwayners13 .

        Beggars ask & plead, Reggers demand, threaten, lie, cheat, steal & write up knowledge reports that claim you have an evil purpose, are PTS or under the control of psychs/SPs. I’ll take a beggar over a regger any day of the week, beside beggars are most likely going to use the money for harmless things like booze or crack, reggers use the money to con/brainwash others, break up families & buy COB booze & motorcycles.

        • allieoops

          yes – brilliant! I agree. Now that some dates are speculated to be announced; I will wait and see if the “wasband” goes “out of town” as he calls it on those upcoming dates. VERY INTERESTING! But stupid! ( apologizes to old 70’s TV.)

    • Volunteer SP

      You’re close! I got a sneak peek at the replacement for the KSW wrap. Here it is:

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Actually, Scientology takes life…

        • joan nieman

          Oh so true Douglas!

        • richelieu jr

          3D wins the Quipstakes tonight!

    • joan nieman

      Brilliant Dwayners!

  • John P.

    Big sigh of relief to see that they are finally going to pull off all these oft-delayed events. Apparently, there is a boundary on their (read: Miscavige’s) level of incompetence.

    Now you know why they were advertising Thanksgiving at the Fort Homicide: because they now have a captive audience who will be stuck in Clearwater over that holiday. I suspect that will mean those with “mixed” families (with some in the cult and some not) who actually celebrate Thanksgiving will be less likely to come. And since the IAS event is only five weeks from New Year’s, it sounds like they won’t have a great turnout for that event either. Just when you thought there was no other joy that Scientology could suck out of people’s lives, they go after Thanksgiving…

    But expecting people to stay for two weeks instead of just one sounds like a bit of a mistake, especially when the event at the end of the line is their biggest moneymaker of the year. And two weeks rather than one sounds like a dumb idea, given the additional cost of accommodations, which could easily add another $2,000 to the bill for those who want to attend versus just expecting them to stay one week. That could be an insurmountable barrier to attendance for some of the lower-end IAS donor crowd who still has to make a living — the dentists and chiropractors and the like.

    So even though they now actually have these events on the board, the potential for a fusillade of new footbullets remains high. And with the population stuck there for two whole weeks with nowhere to go, especially with no sidewalk closures or other ways to protect them from “entheta” it sounds like it might just be a fruitful protest season for any of us who are able to go down there.

    I think it will be extremely valuable for anyone in the area to attempt to measure the density of increased foot traffic in downtown Clearwater to see just how many (or how few) people are actually attending these events.

    • aquaclara

      JP, if you were short on plans for any or all of these weekends, might I recommend a visit to Mecca, er, Clearwater? There are some outstanding restaurants, fine beaches, and then of course, that ultimate tease…live stats to compile and dissect.

      Tempted?

      • DamOTclese2

        :) Just don’t go to any “Mexican restaurants” in Clearwater, everybody there seems to think that adding sliced jalapenos makes a meal “Mexican.” :) I had the worse “Mexican food” in Clearwater in 1998.

    • aboutandout

      It is the ultimate test of faith….church versus family. And for those who pick the later I am sure they will pay $$$ big time.

      • TXCowgirl

        Good point Aboutandout. A $cilon having to choose between the cherch and family? Thousands of them have answered that question over the years: it’s called DISCONNECTION!

        • allieoops

          Correct – that is what it is; Never to be spoken by the :member to those he or she disconnects from. Very Hush Hush, you know!

      • dmscohb

        Super sorry, Tiny McSlappy, but I’ll be WAY too busy to attend. I’ve scheduled events that will have much more meaning for my life than hanging out in your tent thing, including the bi-monthly clipping of my toe nails and staring off into space. That last one is sort of a $cilon activity, but I get to do it for free all I want. I really do apologize!

      • allieoops

        yes, the “wasband” picked “church.” now we are done for as a family.

    • TXCowgirl

      Would a public scientologist be stigmatized if they chose to book accommodations somewhere other than a Co$ owned hotel?

      • Snippy_X

        Only if they paid the hotel bill.

        • TXCowgirl

          But they would have to pay their own bill at the Ft. Haunted Hotel, as well. So my original question is would the public $cilon suffer repercussions if their hotel $ did not go into the Co$ coffers?

        • GlibWog

          Snippy..I always enjoy your humor..hahaha and the kitty poking out of the bag just adds to it.. Glibby

      • allieoops

        yep all $$$ toc O S indeed.

    • Anonymous

      John,

      Miscavige HAS TO BE RIGHT and he bullies others within the church to ensure that he ALWAYS IS RIGHT.

      If in fact a new banner is put up on the tent (per Tony’s reporting above) it will almost certainly be a bonafide Scientology religious symbol of some sort, so that Micavige can jam it down the City of Clearwater’s throat, fight (and probably win) a court battle, then proclaim “victory” over the SP bureaucrats trying to stop him from saving the planet.

      See? The tech always works!

      • Eclipse-girl

        That scares me. I was thinking it would be the IAS symbol, which I do not think is a religious symbol.

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          I A S stuff is religious symbol. It’s kinda like “Cahtolic Charities”, I mean in that a part of the cherch that accepts donations. Catholics for charities; Scilons of Keeping Scientology alive as long as they can.

      • Guest

        The Co$ new “religious symbol”

    • Robert Eckert

      “Big sigh of relief to see that they are finally going to pull off all these oft-delayed events. Apparently, there is a boundary on their (read: Miscavige’s) level of incompetence.” I want to wait and see if the events actually happen before I would make such a judgment.

      • Once_Born

        I take it you are referring to the theory that Miscavige is deliberately provoking the City to close the tent down, so that he can distract attention from ‘Super Power’ with a “religious crusade” (and fund-raising drive) against suppressive politicians.

        If he is, the City will have to do its part quite soon, or Miscavige may find that he has to go through with the events he was trying to avoid – and deliver a speech only feet away from protesters and gawkers and who knows what else.

        Whatever happens, neither the CofS nor Miscavige is likely to emerge covered with glory…

        • Robert Eckert

          I don’t know whether he would do that on purpose, or whether he could manage to be stupid enough to provoke it unintentionally, or whether the events might fail to occur because the tent collapses, or his speech doesn’t get written, or he has a stroke, or whatever. I am withholding judgment until we see whether the events really do happen. Remember Oct. 6 was going to be the day? And we were getting Thidney’s lovely countdown shoops?

          http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/19/scenes-from-scientologys-armageddon/#comment-1051911943

    • mirele

      How many working stiffs (or even small business stiffs) can get away from their work for TWO WEEKS on such short notice? Probably not very many, and the ones who do…yuck.

      • DamOTclese2

        They may claim “religious reasons” and be granted leave. I would not put it past them.

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        Working stiffs, mirele, are not the ‘target market’ that The Cult of Scientology seeks for membership, in the main. Dentists, Chiropractors, Earthlink Inc. businesses- a co. owned by Scientology’s Sky Dayton.

    • DamOTclese2

      it sounds like it might just be a fruitful protest season for any of us who are able to go down there

      There looks to be something like 5 weeks of protesting. Sounds like we’re going to have to protest in shifts. :) We outnumber the customers so that should be no problem.

      • stateofcircle

        Should we all go in on a room at the Ft. Homicide? I hear they have some nice suites we could all fit in…

        • DamOTclese2

          They won’t let any of us in, we’re all in a big book of photographs of suppressives. :) Out on Highway 19, I think it is, there are hotel rooms available however I expect that Scientology will be booking them all in an effort to stop protesters from rooming there.

          • John P.

            Brilliant idea on their part. Apparently, “hotel room booking tech” is so amazing that it can thwart any number of suppressives, because apparently, SP’s have never heard of “rental car tech” which gives power over MEST in a big way, since anyone who masters “rental car tech” can overcome prodigious distances in a reasonably short time. Oh, and Pinellas County has over 30,000 hotel rooms. I doubt they’ll be able to keep all the SP’s at bay.

            • stateofcircle

              Or we can just use “Hey Bury, TDNE and GlibWog, we’re coming over so get ready” tech… :)

            • GlibWog

              Shit.. I don’t live there.. I was just Visiting.. Fer Realz..

            • DamOTclese2

              They have to rent all the cars, then. :) In 1998 we rented out rooms along Highway 19, I think it was, and sat poolside at night. The next year the insane clowns bought out all the rooms but because they had not checked anyone in by certain times, the rooms became available anyway and protesters experienced zero problems.

              Scientology really should follow-through on their room rentals, send as many hired actors to actually show up and pretend to take rooms to stop the protesters from getting them.

            • GlibWog

              Shhhhhhhhhhhh

          • stateofcircle

            Hmm, I wonder why the Fort Harrison isn’t on Expedia?

  • Pepsicat

    City of Clearwater Police: Be prepared to handle a lot of bogus calls from the church as their paranoia insists there are terrorists, murderers, rapists and ghosts around them.

    • RMycroft

      Disgruntled Terrorist Zombie Bigot Apostate Apocalypse!

    • DamOTclese2

      By now the Clearwater PD are aware that any calls from the Scientology crime syndicate are to be treated with utmost severity considering the thousands of terrorist calls the fucking crooks have called in by now every time a peaceful law-abiding human rights protester steps foot anywhere in Clearwater.

      • Pepsicat

        I just can’t get over it. What are they afraid that we are going to see?

        Did I say that right? I’m a little stoned. On Pepsi.

        • GlibWog

          THE TRUTH

    • GlibWog

      and that are just those that are within the { Cherch}

  • Jeff Jacobsen

    Why would the sidewalks “boil over”? Protesters have historically been well-behaved, even when Scientologists try to provoke them.

    • Tony Ortega

      Boil over from the volume, Jeff. I wasn’t implying anything about protester behavior. But you have a couple of thousand people walk from the tent to the SP building, with lots of bystanders taking photos. You don’t think it’s going to be a right mess?

      • Inbtelligence

        Indeed, it should be quite the “MEST” (MESS) :-)

        • sugarplumfairy

          Very late last night I watched an episode of Ancient Aliens (guilty pleasure that I can never resist) about Einstein and his work on matter, space, time and energy.. And in the middle of it, I thought ‘there’s something else elron stole..’

          • Miss Tia

            Oh I love AA too!!!

        • i-Betty

          I see what you did there :P

      • dwayners13 .

        I’m sure all the members will “boil over” with excitement over all the awesome Super Powers that await them, once they can remortgage the house, max out their credit cards, sell their blood & loot their children’s education funds (because really, a wog education can’t offer them what the tech & Super Powers can).

        • IASREG

          Don’t forget to bring to take the car title into the title loan shop and bring any unwanted children for the Sea Org!

        • DamOTclese2

          This talk about boiling over and the Oiliness Table makes me wonder when the vats of boiling oil will be spilled over the em-battlement walls on to the human rights protesters below. :)

      • DamOTclese2

        It has happened before, people walk in the street and the CWPD have merely assisted with stalling or routing traffic for the duration. 1998 during the Lisa McPherson Memorial Protest the cops assisted wonderfully with traffic every time protesters and customers overflowed the sidewalks.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        We in RTC wish to assure the general public that any protesters attempting to disrupt events at Flag or heckle COB RTC David Miscavige will be handled by the savage Tone 40 confront of Scientologists:

        http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/scientology1_zps47adc51b.jpg

  • Victoria Pandora

    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SL6ARIxW5u0&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSL6ARIxW5u0

    this is a tree relocation machine. i suggest the sea org slaves dig extra deep into their thirty dollar a week salaries, and buy davey one of these for christmas, instead of another bmw.

    • Donut

      Mr Miscavaige, this butt plug arrived for you special delivery!

    • Straight Diet of Kerbango

      Already customized with his name on it too. 1:10

    • Mark

      Are you sure that’s not Audrey II from Little Shop of Horrors?

    • DamOTclese2

      This is wonderful!

  • N. Graham

    It’s going to be a fun Thanksgiving-I wonder how many $cios had other plans for the holiday weekend? Oh well, this is so much more important! Can’t wait! {snicker}

    • Gabbyone

      What a bunch of turkey$!

      • Miss Tia

        Giblets too!

  • Inbtelligence

    RE: “We’re so excited we can hardly stand it!” I LOVE IT!!! <3

  • Phil McKraken

    LAW & ORDER SVU DOES EPISODE ABOUT DAVID MISCAVIGE

    I don’t know if anyone around the Bunker has noted this already, but there’s a story-line in L&O SVU Season 12 Episode 18, called “Bully”, which first aired Jan 5, 2011, and it has to have been inspired by the tales told about a certain ecclesiastical leader’s penchant for violence.

    The detectives are investigating the gruesome death of a woman, and they go to her place of employment (a wine company) and question her colleagues. All the employees of this company tell the same story, robotically: this is a great place to work, she was very happy here, we all love her, blah blah blah. Then it comes out that this woman had secretly made a video of the boss of the company berating, humiliating and physically assaulting her employees. The incident is almost a blow-by-blow recounting of Jefferson Hawkins’ description of being attacked by Miscavige, and similar to so many others’ stories. As it turns out, the employees of this company are hanging on for their big payout when the crazy boss sells the company, against the threat of being fired if they speak out or complain in any way — it’s the equivalent of the threat of losing one’s eternity.

    This is the type of secret video that so many have been hoping to see, for so many years, of the executive suite at Int Base or wherever the little big man hangs his hat.

    • i-Betty

      I remember this episode, but I’ve only now made the same connection as you. Well spotted, Phil!

      • Phil McKraken

        For added fun, the meany character particularly berates the underlings about how incompetent they all are and how she has to do everything herself. Of course, that’s a common trait among the personality type, but it’s so well documented for DM (and LRH too), that it has to be part of the direct inspiration for the episode writers.

  • Donut

    Oiliness table! I can’t wait.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Your av always cracks me up.. And makes my stomach growl..

      • Guest

        I know what you mean. I am craving cider and doughnuts, now.

        • sugarplumfairy

          Apple cider doughnuts.. Mmmmmmm..

    • Davescomm

      That goes so well with formal wear and business suits and locker rooms and morons. Club Flag for the Super Stupid.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Andrew called it Flagwarts.. That’s my absolute favorite.. It just says it so perfectly..

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Yep.

          There’s real magic at Hogwarts… which is a fictional place.
          And there’s fictional magic at Flag… which is a real place.

          • RMycroft

            Mustelis stultus volans!

  • El Con Blubbard

    and Scientology is rabidly hiring actors to show up for the event! Donate to the IAS so they can pay the actor’s to come so you can be fed propaganda that Scientology actually has members!

    • chukicita

      They were hiring 15 actors for still photo shoot, probably for collateral about the SP building; beautiful people milling about and smiling around the oiliness table. That would be one hell of shoot.

      • RMycroft

        Come and see the Oiliness Table! Bring a loved one! Or a hired one!

      • DamOTclese2

        I love the idea of actors milling around the Oiliness Table trying to pretend this is anything but absolutely insanity. :)

  • PickAnotherID

    Aside from the fines, I thought the Mayor said the city would not issue a ‘Certificate of Occupancy’ for the tent if the sign didn’t come down. If the Cof$ doesn’t get the certificate, then what?

    • Robert Eckert

      Early on they were saying that, but not lately. I guess we should not be surprised that there has been some back-down, but it is still disappointing. For anyone thinking of going down to Clearwater, I repost again from Reality Scamz

      • This post has been repeatedly flagged; obviously it genuinely worries OSA so it needs to be reposted often

      Always have a video camera or regular camera Ready at a Moments Notice.
      If possible go with a more than 1 person
      Park 6-8 blocks out of the downtown area (Not Whole Foods lot)
      Use a BUS you can check the schedule at http://www.psta.net/index.php
      DO NOT USE A TAXI
      Use a different route to enter and exit the area. When leaving take your time, stop for coffee or browse a few blocks away. Make some turns and keep eyes open.
      Clearwater PD is well aware of Wearing a Mask, just put it on a few blocks before you get there.
      Consider bringing Water and possible a backpack with a Hat, , Different shirt, Sunglasses, Knit Cap; You can hide your hair underneath, also Big Sunglasses, (if No Mask Wanted)
      They will VIDEO YOU the less of your body they see the Better.
      Google Maps is your friend
      Once you get there even with an Anon do not tell people your real name, they will not be offended.
      After you get there Anon’s (Probably Guy Fawkes Masks) can probably give you further information. Guy Fawkes masks can be gotten at http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_7?url=search-alias%3Dapparel&field-keywords=guy%20fawkes%20mask&sprefix=guy+faw%2Caps%2C292

      You can also go to Why We Protest, if you have trouble finding information ask a MOD

      RS has these sign suggestions (remember, you only have seconds to get through to a Sea Org member):

      Communication is the Universal Solvent..Why Will You Not Talk To Me?
      Are you Getting what they Promised when you Joined?
      Sea Org you are not Even Clear
      What if We Are Telling The Truth & Scientology is Lying? Dare you Ask?
      When was Your Last Lib
      When was Your Last Phone Call Home that Was Not Monitored
      Why Do You Have To Leave Your Mail Enveloped Open, So OSA Can Read it First!
      You are Your Body
      You are Your Mind
      What’s your Retirement Plan?
      Your Family Misses you
      You Didn’t Pull It In, It Pulled You In
      Homo Novis No you Are Just Like Us
      The Truth Is Free
      You Can Do Whatever You Want
      You Can Say Whatever You Want
      Doubt Is not a Crime
      1-866-X SEA ORG
      Why Are So Many Declared
      Don’t Route Out, Just Blow..Help is Available…We Love you

      • Jon Hendry

        I wonder if pool noodles could be used as an acceptably, obviously-harmless support for protest signs? They might not work held vertically, but might be sufficiently rigid if folded in half.

        I know other protests and similar events frown on wooden sticks, because of their possible use as weapons, but allow cardboard tubes and such. I’d think the pool noodle would be a familiar enough sight in Florida that it would be easily recognized. Especially if it was in a festive color.

    • Tony Ortega

      Good question. I’ll check with the city on Monday.

      • Miss Tia

        I recall if they remove it there was gonna be a meeting/hearing? on November 20th. After the GAT release before IAS event. I would love it if they pulled the certificate of occupancy prior to the IAS event!

      • TXCowgirl

        You might also ask the city what the fine would be if the modular tent is not down by the end of the cherch’s mid-January permit date.

        • RMycroft

          If?? When.

          It’s going to be a while before Occupy Clearwater takes down their tents.

      • BigMcLargeHuge

        Based upon my reading, the Cert of Occupancy was related to the fire code compliance of the wrap. It wasn’t part of the original building permit so it had to be cleared by the Fire Marshall or they would withhold the CoO. That happened within a day of it going up.

        The sign ordinance is different and isn’t part of the building permit/certificate of occupancy issue as far as I can tell (and it usually wouldn’t be as occupancy certs are based upon compliance with the building and fire codes and the sign ordinance is completely separate from those). The fines will wrack up day by day but the City, if it wanted to, could probably file a lawsuit to try to get an order requiring removal of the sign, but by the time that worked through the process the tent will probably be down anyways so what is the point.

  • Interested

    Sorry, repeating what I wrote on the previous blog as I don’t want to miss any one. Here goes the thank you repeated
    Hello everyone. I am home in one piece. So far all is CLEAR hurray! Can I take up a little space to thank all of you who wrote wishing me well. My heart goes out to you all. As i said my 100 backwards I thought of your kindness. I am not writing to each of you individually because that will take up too much of Tony’s space as sooo many sent me their thoughts.

    Tony, we need each other, not only because of scientology, and bringing the cult down, but because the people on this blog REAlLY CARE! So please keep this blog alive and kicking.

    • i-Betty

      Interested, I’m so happy for you, what a relief! What a wonderful piece of news to start off my day. That has brought the happiest smile to my face :)

      xxxxx

      • Interested

        Thank you again. I. Betty and eclipse . I hope one day to shake your hand or hug you. -:))

        • GlibWog

          oh honey..what a huge relief..and a wonderful way to start the week end.. Yay.. ((HUGS)))

    • Eclipse-girl

      (((HUGS))) glad you are home.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      That is great news! I also feel as though the Bunker offers a caring and compassionate community – it means a lot to me to know we have each other as support.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Great News :):):)

    • Ruby

      Such good news! Xo

  • monkeyknickers

    From what I understand, a “comfortable stay at Flag” would mean you’d hafta bring flea powder, a credit card lock-box and a cone of silence. And a fake tooth with cyanide in it if all of the above fails to fend off the vulture-osity.

    BE PREPARED. :)

    • sugarplumfairy

      Just bring a friend who’s richer and slower than you..

      • scnethics

        I like the way you think :)

      • Kangaroo

        (Fell over laughing at this comment. Very clever.)

      • RMycroft

        Bring a few of them. Those regges can strip a whale to the bone in seconds.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        OK, you made me laugh.

        Makes me think of those sci-fi movies where the terrifying monster is chasing the group. They try to shoot the critter, and it doesn’t slow down.

        So they shoot one member of the party in the leg and scurry away.

      • monkeyknickers

        HAHAHAHA

    • Jo

      Clean sheets and a pack lunch too, those burritos look dangerous.

      • Miss Tia

        But they’re HISTORIC burritos!

        • RMycroft

          Won’t they be having any specials for the Super Taco Building opening event?

          • Miss Tia

            Perhaps the history of Mexican food and how LRH discovered it all and brought it to the American masses?

            • monkeyknickers

              Ha!

          • Tim Hallinan

            I’ve heard they’re going to do French fries on the oil table.

      • TXCowgirl

        Thanksgiving turkey burritos with a side of regging.

        • valshifter

          just don’t order the super power salad, from what I herd they include wilted lettuce as to avoid wasting, to feed the whales.

      • DamOTclese2

        Ya got to bring Tom Cruise to explain how to truly eat that burrito, too.

      • whenpigsswim

        And remember, the guacamole recipe is secret!

    • 0tessa

      You’re sure they don’t have bed bugs?

      • Interested

        The little buggers climb into your clothes, suitcase and anything else ou might wish to take home with you.

        • Eclipse-girl

          They are nasty little insects that were significantly impaired with DDT.

          They do not seem to be phased by allowed insecticides. You can heat treat rooms, but that doesn’t alway work.

          I have heard that having a chunk of Dry Ice, under the bead, in a lipped, or rimmed contained, and folded paper bridges to allowed the fuckers to get into the container is effective. The bugs are attracted by the CO2 gas. I do not know how deep the container has to be.

          Prevention is using food grade diatomaceous earth in the floor boards and crack of the molding though out your house. Wear a mask or respirator.

          • Jon Hendry

            According to the CDC, bedbugs were largely resistant to DDT by the mid-1950s. By the time concern was raised about DDT in the 60s, DDT was not the go-to pesticide any longer. Clearly, since the ban on DDT went into effect in the US 1972, it can’t be the lack of DDT behind the recent resurgence. If the lack of DDT was the problem, bedbugs would have been back much sooner.

            The problem is that they have now evolved resistance to most other pesticides as well. In addition to DDT, which they are still resistant to.

            The most interesting solution I’ve heard of is the use of leaves of kidney bean plants, which the bedbugs stick to like velcro, and can’t escape.

            http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/12/science/la-sci-sn-bedbugs-bean-leaves-bioinspired-20130411

            Researchers are trying to come up with an artificial equivalent, but I don’t see why people couldn’t just plant beans, get the leaves, and arrange the leaves around the bed.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I really like the pinto bean leaf idea, and then a fire every morning. Need to be able to get fresh leaves every day.

              One other thing to do is to have foam bedding material. A foam mattress and a foam pillow. Supposedly the bugs do not like foam . it is not a natural habitat for them.

              They are nasty creatures. When my daughter was young and we would say good night to her, I made a conscious effort not to say ” and don’t let the bed bugs bites” becasue she was an insect-o-phobe.

              That phrase has come back to me, now.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Bedbugs? Those are physical manifestations of Body Thetans. Follow Policy, just Disconnect from them, and you’ll be fine.

    • Eclipse-girl

      aren’t there bed bugs in Fort Homicide? Flea powder in NOT Effective and you have the probabilty of bringing those pests home with you

      • Jon Hendry

        There’s a website that was collecting information about bedbugs at hotels. I wonder if the Fort Homicide is in their database.

    • Sidney18511

      Sorta reminds me of some advice from the late great Warren Zevon……”Bring Lawyers Guns and Money”

      • monkeyknickers

        HA! I have none of those. I better give that place a wide berth. :)

    • IASREG

      We will install a new regging app on your phone when we take them before you can enter the events.

      • monkeyknickers

        Yah! Scientology on the CUTTING EDGE of “tech”, huh?

        :)

  • Rod Keller

    If the city wanted to issue a permit in the interest of public safety, they could do that. It’s not impossible. One year Mike Rinder got permits to close the sidewalks during our planned protest – using the excuse that the Fort Harrison needed to be cleaned with spray bottles, handi-wipes and hoses. We managed to protest on the sidewalk anyway, but Pinellas County officials offered to issue me a parade permit for Fort Harrison Ave. with one day notice. Since it’s a state road they told me the city didn’t have to approve it.

    • DamOTclese2

      Remember in 1999 the criminals chopped up the sidewalk across from the Fort Homicide Hotel and then tried to demand that the human rights protesters could not walk on the sidewalk, trying to claim that a 10 foot injunction handed to Robert Minton applied to every non-Scientology customer.

      A Judge quickly informed the insane crooks that they were *not* the only people allowed to use sidewalks and that chopping up the far sidewalk without a permit was an actionable offense if the City cared to file on it.

  • Unloyalofficer

    I just checked on kayak, plane tickets from LA to Tampa are a little above 350 dollars on the cheap end of things, so far not much demand from Scientologists in LA, Hotel rooms are fairly inexpensive 50 dollars for motel 6 like accommodation, average Holiday inn accommodation around 80 dollars, to the Sheraton which is over 200 dollars. I would imagine if 10,000 people showed up prices would go through the roof. The other events are fairly stupid times to have an event, but I probably don’t have to go further on that point….

    • ze moo

      Now that dates have been announced, the hotel rates will go up.

  • Observer

    Hahaha, poor Davey can’t even keep his seekrit plans a seekrit for 12 hours!

    They are out to get you, Davey … and you’ve pulled every bit of it in.

    • notclear

      I wanted to respond to SOS on Hawkins on Ethics the other day, but I decided I ought to read Scientology Ethics first. So I did. After that, commenting seemed pointless.

      That book is so born out of paranoia. It reeks of fear cover to cover. The version I found is here…

      http://www.matrixfiles.com/Scientology%20Materials/Books%20chrono/1968%20INTRODUCTION%20TO%20SCIENTOLOGY%20ETHICS.pdf

      • Noni Mause

        Hey, thanks for the link – I always prefer to read the source material too.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          The revised updated and authorized current edition is hundreds of pages. I think just the revised list of “high crimes” is longer than the original. All done after hubbard’s demise.

          • Once_Born

            So, despite the stated of doctrine prohibiting the corruption of the {holy words of source}, changes are being made to suit the management’s agenda.

            I imagine first editions are now sought after source material for scholars of new religious movements.

          • Noni Mause

            Fascinating. And, isn’t that squirreling? You don’t know where to get a copy of the new improved version, do you? I’m a sucker for primary sources.

            • Lady Squash

              Noni Mause. Bridge Publications is one source. Ebay is another. Possibly a library. Every library in the world is supposed to have a set of basics now.

            • Noni Mause

              Facepalm! Of COURSE, the local library will have it! …only, there ARE no Hubbard books at my local library. I need to get my local org right onto that.

    • OrangySky

      Observer, you really should think about sending JPEG versions on some of these for our Clearwater protesters.

  • i-Betty

    As promised, here are the three videos from our trip to the Miami Org a few days ago. I hope you enjoy them :)

    I’ve told the story of each video in the About section on YouTube so you’ll need to expand to ‘Show More’.

    ‘Agent Knickers’ visits Church of Scientology, Coral Gables, Miami: http://youtu.be/LdhhcBB47cU

    ‘Agent Knickers’ Inside Scientology’s Coral Gables, Miami Org: http://youtu.be/1zylnA2blZQ

    Scientology Org farewell – Coral Gables, Miami: http://youtu.be/nywfNMvprzo

    • NOLAGirl

      LOVE these!!!! Well done ladies, and even in the face of what you know is complete B.S. you were class acts. *applauds you*

      • i-Betty

        I can’t tell you how nervous I was, because we didn’t know what to expect. We didn’t know whether the place would be teeming with angry scientologists, and we certainly weren’t expecting the place to be empty and so un-cared for. There was a strong smell of damp and the air was full of dust motes. There is a stained glass raised roof in the entrance/reception which could be beautiful if it was cleaned.

        When we left I felt a mixture of elation that it had gone so smoothly, and such sadness for the young guy who had shown us around. Oh, and disbelief that I’d managed to stop filming after 1 minute by accident so I missed recording his repeated attempts to get us to purchase a course that day.

        Poor kid :(

        • Eclipse-girl

          They are Morgues, remember.

        • NOLAGirl

          I hope one day he shows up here. Out of the cult and joining the fight in The Bunker. :)

          • i-Betty

            We can only hope, Nola :) Which brings me to something else. You know those rabbit holes we frequently get sucked down into…?

            I came across a long-dormant but now reactivated thread on OCMB this morning. In the summer of 2004 ‘Barky’ started a thread which enquired about the whereabouts of a few old friends who he/she had known in scientology. One reply talks about one of the friends and mentions that he lost an eye in an accident when somebody struck him with a copper pipe.

            Years later – 2 days ago, in fact – the thread is reactivated by somebody called SaintBastard, and it turns out HE is the guy who lost the eye, although the original poster had got a few of the details muddled, and he talks about how touched he was to discover that he was being discussed and remembered out here in the world while he was incarcerated on the RPF.

            Here is a link to the thread on OCMB: http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13524

            I got such a lump in my throat reading these words:

            “I’m still remaining anonymous on paper… but it seems that after all these years many have forgotten what I went through. But you didn’t… and even though you might not be around to read this, its important to me that someone cared enough to talk about it… even though I wasn’t ready.”

            Saintbastard has even done an AMA (ask me anything) on Reddit recently called “I am a former scientologist and ex-SO member that spent 4 years on the RPF. AMA!” which may very well already have been posted in the comments over the last few days, but incase not I will post the link here: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1pe0kb/iama_former_scientologist_and_ex_sea_org_member/

            • i-Betty

              [Edit]

              I have just started reading through the AMA and I wanted to post a copy of one of the Q&As. I’ve made it a little bigger so it’s easier to read:

            • GlibWog

              I was lurking the other night at this Betty.. Thank you for sharing..

            • NOLAGirl

              That is so amazing that after all that time he’d find that. Hope he is well now that he is out. :)

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Yes he does seem sort of low tone. Very sad.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Now I finally totally get “snickesnort”

      Seen it written here huge number of times and ‘kinda’ got it. But always thought, I wonder what *that* sounds like … Now I completely grok it,

      As Agent I_B, person-ing the covert camera, on the first video, when Agent Knickers reveals those crazy undercover shorts, pops out with the most perfect snickersnort! I get it! And got it good!!

      • i-Betty

        Heehee :D It also has to be involuntary. A snickersnort cannot be forced; it should explode without warning, typically in a quiet, somber setting – like a wedding – where embarrassment is magnified. It should be accompanied by glares from fellow guests and followed by fiery red cheeks and the words: “Oops! Where did that come from?”.

        • GlibWog

          My Snickersnort moment..
          Went with my GF to see “The Crucible .” The Play took place in a very scary setting. It was an Old Building that housed Nuns and was a College . ( Historical Building Now..) OHIO

          ( They have haunted house now ..and it scared the Beejezus out of me.. Women dressed as nuns with blood etc..)

          So we go to this really serious Salem Witchcraft play.. And I am really, really into it. It was in an intimate setting ..Dark.. Candles etc..

          One of the Ladies on the stage Was Screaming and was in hysteria.. and collapsed on the floor .. and when she collapsed she FARTED… really loud..

          OMG.. I was in the front row.. and I heard a couple of chortles around me.. and started to bite my lip..and suppress it.. and grabbed my GF’s hand and squeezed it so hard she said..

          ” Ouuuuuuuuch and drew it away..” and the more I tried to suppress it the harder it became…I tried to concentrate on the play, but my shoulders kept bobbing up and down..

          my GF whispered.. ” Knock it off.. OMG. How old are you? I am so embarrassed ” ..

          ” With that..OMG I RAN OUT OF THE THEATER LIKE A CACKLING MANIAC. I could not stop laughing and spitting at the absurdity of the entire situation. I literally had to run outside in the dark..

          Every time I tried to come back in the theater ( and watch it from the back) I started to laugh again. I just gave up and waited for her by the car..

          • i-Betty

            LOL! I would have reacted in the exact same way. Brilliant story :D

            • GlibWog

              That happened maybe in 1983 and I remember it like yesterday..OMG..I was laughing when I wrote it..hahaha

            • Robert Eckert

              We were laughing when we read it, too.

            • GlibWog

              I died a thousand deaths that night.. OMG.. I knew people were boring their eyes in the back of my head..OMG..

              and I swear to God I kind of remember peeing my pants running out the door..

          • Aslansown

            Reminds me of this: (just watch first minute) :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17j5QzF3kqE

            • Kim O’Brien

              i showed this to my daughter ..she is 11 and thinks she is fat and all that crap …this was awesome

            • Aslansown

              I agree! I was real thin but thought I was fat too.

              But actually I didn’t mean to post that and Disqus won’t let me take it down. I meant to post this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLnl8pQ4_HU because of Glibby’s post!

            • GlibWog

              ha.. Good for your baby girl… I’m 66 and think it is awesome!

          • Aslansown

            I posted the wrong video in response to your post and now I can’t take it down! I meant to say that your story reminds me of the Seinfeld episode with the pez dispenser (just the first minute). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLnl8pQ4_HU

            • GlibWog

              hahhahaha absolutely Aslans ( I love me some Seinfeld any day)

            • GlibWog

              Aslans.. OK … Now multiply that by 20 with a friend beside me telling me to ” QUIT IT RIGHT NOW..” and I was literally biting my lip with spit flying through it.. OMG…

              and the looks I got from the people passing out the programs on the way out.. then back in ( to stand in back) and on my way out again laughing.. OMG Torture..

      • Orglodyte

        A Knickersnickersnort!

    • Interested

      Cool. And you are English ! Yeah ! Maybe one day!

    • Sidney18511

      Oh….just wonderful ladies! As Iive pretty close to this org myself, I have been planning to do some snooping on my own. I will make sure to practice my phone camera-tek first! Good job!

    • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

      So, tell me, young lady, in what way would you sum up Scientology . . .

      • i-Betty

        Here’s a photo taken by ‘Agent Lens’ which captures ‘Agent Knickers” peachy bum perfectly, I thought! :D

        • GlibWog

          OMG.. That is the Nicest Butt! She does us all proud! I just showed my hubby and he said.. (” NOW THAT IS A PROTEST SIGN!) HAHAHA

          How fun for you guys.. Is that your laughter in the Background Betty? I laughed right along with you..bawwwwwwhahaaha

          • i-Betty

            It was – I had such terrible nervous giggles! :P

            • GlibWog

              Just such a beautiful laugh Betty.. Contagious..

      • IASREG

        Hip Hip Hooray!!! Scientology needs MOAR of this sales tech.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      excellent job, agent Knickers!

    • Mark

      Meanwhile, the L. Ron Hubbard Memorial Underpants have been freshly laundered in anticipation of Golden Age of Dreck II. Seen here being hung out to dry after their requisite 25 rinsings in clean water by Mrs. Ermintrude Ganderpoke (of East Grinstead Bagwash & Hand Laundry) they will soon be winging their way by special courier across the Atlantic to Clearwater, where they will either replace the KSW tent-cosy, or be worn by Krusty at the IAS Gala:

      • i-Betty

        You’re hilarious :P You come up with the BEST names! Ermintrude Ganderpoke and her many chins is a woman I’d be proud to call my friend. She took on the challenge of the Memorial Underpants (with the assistance of acid and a wallpaper-removing scraper) and won.

        Here’s to you, Mrs Ganderpoke!

        • Mark

          Acid and a wallpaper-removing scraper? Not nearly strong enough, Betty! Ermintrude had to resort to a concrete-mixer filled with caustic soda and bowling-balls to get that gusset so pristine.

          • i-Betty

            At one point poor old Ermintrude thought she’d be forced to resort to the Large Hadron Collider over at CERN to blast those final stubborn stains.

    • Aslansown

      Hahahahaha! Love it, and LOVE the accents!

      • i-Betty

        Heehee, yes! I thought I’d use that snickersnort for many and varied reasons on the Bunker :D

        • Aslansown

          It will certainly come in handy!!

    • monkeyknickers

      I adore you. No but for real. :)

  • Robert Eckert

    “The IAS Anniversary will be held LIVE at Flag” as opposed to DEAD at Flag

    • GlibWog

      Damn you Robert.. Again I had diet coke shoot up my nose.. QUIT IT!

    • ze moo

      Perhaps a webcast is in the works. It would be so hilarious to see it on rutube the next day.

  • http://cofsexit.blogspot.com/ CofS Exit Zone

    How lovely. The more prominent US Scilons with families will likely be spending Thanksgiving (Nov. 28) and Black Friday (Nov 29) in Clearwater. Inb4 the Fort Harrison announces a Thanksgiving Clam Dinner special for all those stuck staying over in-between the two events.

  • Miss Tia

    Let’s have our OWN little party the night of Friday the 15th here in the Bunker! Dress is casual, bring your own drinks and scooby snacks, and let’s have fun! :)

    I think the next sign will be something with IAS. And do they realize that’s the day after Thanksgiving? Well what do they care? They don’t really put a priority on family and no one in the CO$ would have the money to go shopping on black Friday.

    Any wagers that these dates will be changed and/or canceled?

    • Deimos

      I won’t bet on the dates as I just lost a bet on my “absolutely totally accurate prediction” of when my avatar would have her puppies, I said Halloween and they arrived last night.

      So please welcome into this world “Tony”, “Tia” and “Tiny”, two red and one red and white cavalier King Charles spaniels. Hopefully all future autism assistance dogs.

      Love the idea of a genuine super powers party, for all those who see the truth and speak it to anyone who will listen (and the poor souls in the sea org).

      • Eclipse-girl

        What organization will do the training of the new pups?

        It sounds brilliant. Congrats on three healthy births.

        • Deimos

          Thankyou

          We home trained the parents and have put together a very basic training plan for the future puppy owners.

          Most of it is “love based”, involving the puppy and child in every aspects of each others lives until the dog becomes a comfort to the child and also an alert mechanism if they wander or do anything new.

          There is more to it than that but it all starts and ends with Love. If I could beam the whole bunker here right now, you’d see it in action.

          • i-Betty

            Congratulations! I love what you’re doing :)

          • NOLAGirl

            Thankfully we never had to deal with wandering with our son, but I’m so grateful to you for what you do, for the mothers who do have to deal with it. This is going to bring so much comfort to them. I don’t have enough words to express my gratitude.

            • GlibWog

              Awwww Nola.. xoxo and hugs to you and your son.

            • NOLAGirl

              Than you Glibby!! He’s my angel. :)

            • GlibWog

              And so are you my friend.. xo

            • i-Betty

              I bet he is :)

          • Eclipse-girl

            Its a wonderful thing that you do.

          • Casabeca

            Love changes the world…good for you!

      • Miss Tia

        Congrats on the puppies!!! I’m flattered, humbled and honored to have one named after me! What a wonderful future for them too!

        YES!! You’ve named it much better than I—A genuine super powers party in the bunker!!

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          Sp.= “Supah Powah Pahtay”

      • GlibWog

        OMG… You know when you get organized your have to show us Deimos.. Congrats to Mama and babies.. Is mommy taking good care of her little ones? I love, love , love King Charles spaniels.

        I just saw one yesterday coming out of my favorite dog groomers. Beautiful baby girl. Perfect as assistance dogs. I worked with the autistic community during my career. They would be perfect for those in the spectrum. Can’t wait to see your babies Deimos..

        I am a dog freak.

        • Deimos

          Bitch and babies are very well, less than a day into their lives we have families interested and a box of puppy happiness.
          If life was any better we would be lining their first pooping box with COB’s resignation papers.
          Puppies – the exact opposite of CO$, honest, powered by love and a constant source of happiness.

          • GlibWog

            awwwwwww… I went over to my neighbors pet shop.. and she only takes the home bred puppies.. No puppy mills for her..

            To get my puppy fix.( She didn’t have any : / ) She had 5 last week and they were all sold. She sells them at a fair price. I literally spend hrs when I visit.. I love to watch people who fall in love with them and take them home.

            She lives in this HUGE home and takes the puppies with her every night. She is a Saint.

            She has refused people who she feels wouldn’t be a good fit.. and she is very fussy at who can hold them..

            OHHHHHHHH what a wonderful dream Cob’s resignation papers! YES

        • Casabeca

          Me too!

  • Imelda Marcos

    “MY HEAD HURTS”

    • TXCowgirl

      You “pulled it in.” :-) Here’s some medical advice from ElRon:

      “Do not do a Touch Assist on a person who has a headache. Research has shown that headaches are often the result of mental phenomena that a Touch Assist would be the incorrect handling for.” (The Scientology Handbook, 1994 edition, p. 218)

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        That FREAKAZOID Lafayette RH.
        He will mess with human lives and tell his membership how to wipe their fannies based on his Supah Secwet Wesearch.

        • TXCowgirl

          Research? I don’t see no stinkin’ research!

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            That cuz it ’twas Wesearch Supah Secwet !!!

        • RMycroft

          There’s an LRH order on how to wipe windows, so that wouldn’t surprise me.

          • Eclipse-girl

            ammonia and newspaper, IIRC.

            • RMycroft

              And staff wipe their fannies with that?

            • Eclipse-girl

              why yes they do. The newspaper tech has been around since the first printing of news papers. Ammonia provides the wonderful clean fresh smell like old urine

            • RMycroft

              Well, that would explain why the orgs never have any toilet paper. They just have to use the tech.

            • Eclipse-girl

              There is no need to pity those who must purchases and zealously guard their own Tp, they are not using the proper tech.

              However, with the demise of newspapers, one wonders what will happen.

            • Espiando

              American fannies or British fannies?

      • Imelda Marcos

        Haha, no, I’m just imagining what MissCabbage’s next slogan will be. Mental phenomena indeed.

      • DamOTclese2

        And by “Research has shown” the insane conman meant, “I had a hallucination while totally stoned on quality cocaine.”

  • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

    Breaking News!! David Miscavige’s base of operations during the upcoming festivities has been revealed thanks to satellite technology . . .

    • Bob

      LOL! This was revealed on the Jimmy Fallon show, in a humorous way. They did not mention it was for The Mouse King but they thought it was awfully funny. The tiny Tyrant knows how to compensate for his inadequacies.

      • DamOTclese2

        It’s funny how the “Christian Cock” building has taken everyone as monster-ably funny. :) It’s just a great big brown whang that, once you have it, you never go back. :)

        • Bob

          I think someone is compensating for their diminutive size.

    • junojones

      What I find funny is that this is in the midwest and they have dead grass (which top lots in the pic do not have).

      Prospering cult sure knows how to look prosperous, not.

      • Mark

        It’s actually a Christian Science reading-room.

    • DamOTclese2

      Funny that this “Christian Cock” has made such a big splash on the Intertubes. :)

  • media_lush

    Cruise absolutely has to turn up, doesn’t he? …… I mean, he’s between films right now so can’t use that as an excuse. And the other celebs, too….. given they can’t shut the streets down do you think they might be too frightened to face the entheta?

    • Miss Tia

      If he’s not there for his BFF, then there’s trouble in paradise!

      • Anonymous

        If they don’t show, then they probably couldn’t tear themselves away from their happy happy fun time love nest.

      • Pepsicat

        I’ve suspected that for a while….

    • Espiando

      The bellwether won’t be that midget fgt that you’re obsessed with. It’ll be JT. He really has no excuse. He lives a couple of hours’ drive away and has a wife/beard who drinks Ultra Strength Kool-Aid. If he doesn’t show, then they’re in trouble.

      • media_lush

        I’m not obsessed with him, you’re the one who’s obsessed with thinking that. (And do you always have to be a twat when you leave a comment on my posts….. I don’t do it to yours).

        • Espiando

          My avatar is Bugs Bunny. Who’s yours?

          And I’m a twat to everyone. It’s part of my lack of charm.

          • media_lush

            Admittedly it is Cruise, but I think the testes on his forehead and the text saying “Tom. Cruise without his Scientology wig” are somewhat mitigating.

          • IASREG

            Scientology tech is available to make the able even more able. The tech can transform you from the run-of the-mill everyday Wog Twat into a SUPER SCIENTOLOGIST TWAT. Want to know more? http://www.scientology.org

            • Espiando

              I’m already at Cause Over Everything. Class XII auditor Marty Rathbun said so.

            • IASREG

              No. You are NOT at cause over media_lush. Marty Rathbone is a tree rat squirrel and is leading you to spiritual DEATH. Stop swallowing squirrel nut and GET ON BOARD.

            • Espiando

              I am at Cause Over Everything, including media_lush (because Marty said so). My spirit is already dead, so I have nothing to lose. And I’ve swallowed lots of nut in my day, but never a squirrel. Even I have standards.

      • Artoo45

        So, just fucking say “faggot” if you really mean it, Espiando. It’s like people who say “N word,” which as Louie CK said “makes me have to say it in my head.”

        • Espiando

          In the realm of Anon, that word is pretty much reserved for the response, “DO IT FAGGOT” or for things that deserve it. For something that doesn’t deserve a full “faggot”, “fgt” is usually used (for instance, Fgt Hat Day). Cruise doesn’t deserve the full treatment.

          • Robert Eckert

            We are not in that realm. Deliberately provoking misunderstandings is counterproductive.

            • Espiando

              Fine, then. Cruise is a faggot. Happy now?

            • Robert Eckert

              Now you are deliberately provoking the misunderstanding that this is a site for gay-bashers.

            • Espiando

              So please explain how I can be a self-bashing gay? The only person to pull that off was Graham Chapman in the Colin “Bomber” Harris sketch.

            • Robert Eckert

              People who come in do not know who you are, or what you are about. Deliberately creating the impression that you are some kind of gay-basher will turn off people who might otherwise have stuck around.

            • Espiando

              You’re really stretching, Robert. The heady scent of bullshit is starting to waft around your posts. Better stop before your garden of idiocy starts to grow out of control.

            • Robert Eckert

              You throw around ugly language as if you were talking to people who know what you mean. I know what you mean, but the people who post here are a small fraction of the people who visit here. I never joined Anon protests because I was immediately repulsed when I looked into them and only later came to some understanding. I would prefer that you not be repulsive here.

            • Espiando

              What you would prefer here is not yours to demand. And there are numerous occasions when your behavior has been repulsive to me, yet I haven’t demanded that you change your ways. In other words, go fuck yourself.

            • Robert Eckert

              Anytime you find my behavior repulsive, then tell me so. I have, of course, no power to make you do or not do anything, anymore than you have power over me, but I would like you to consider what I was saying, as I would consider anything you had to say to me.

            • Espiando

              The problem here is that I do not care one bit about what others think about me, or what kind of deleterious effects my words or actions might have on the environment around me. Fortunately, my particular combination of egotism and sociopathy is not combined with a pathological need for control of that environment, which is a far more destructive element. Add that in, and you get Miscavige and Hubbard. Take that to heart the next time you try to lecture someone on “manners”. Some call “manners” “ethics”.

            • Robert Eckert

              You cared enough to shout back at me, which shows some desire for control. And of course, you would not be on the board here at all if you did not wish to make some impact.

            • Kim O’Brien

              my head hurts . Mommy , daddy ..stop fighting

            • Captain Howdy

              “Now you are deliberately provoking the misunderstanding that this is a site for gay-bashers.”

              It’s not anti-gay?

              Why are people always joking about “goof the poof”?

  • Espiando

    Well, damn, I’m going to be in Colorado on business from the 15th through 17th, then moving into a new apartment over Thanksgiving (and Birthday) week. So no fun for me in Clearwater, regrettably. I’ll be there in spirit for everyone who does attend.

    So, what would formal wear be for us? Black tie and Guy Fawkes mask?

    • Eclipse-girl

      Mr E’s Bday is Nov 29.

      • Espiando

        Then give him enturbulation of the cult as a birthday gift. It’s the one that keeps on giving.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Me E does not share my obsession. His parents went into a christian cult in his late teens. He wants nothing more to do with them. He allows me my obsession but is embarrassed whenever I speak of it in public.

          • L. C. Spencer

            Hell, I’m probably obsessed BECAUSE I was in one of those. Tell him to fight evil anywhere is to fight it everywhere :-)

            • Eclipse-girl

              It damaged him. He lost a lot of respect for his parents. His sister who is 7 yrs older than him, and is a self obsessed bitch, did nothing do help her teen age brother. They constantly tried to get him to go to church and to bible classes. He resisted and never joined their new church. I think it hurt him a lot to see reasonably intelligent people get sucked into this, and realize they could not longer be awed by evolution or any science that their new church did not approve of.

              Mr E. went on to get a degree in Computer science, and did a lot of his science in credits in Genetics. He has been a partner in a company that write software for molecular biology, structural protein analysis, vector mapping etc.

              They were able to compartmentalize it in odd ways, too. I remember when the gave my then young daughter a rock and told her how it was amount the oldest rocks on earth. It was at least 1 billion yrs old. But they also believed in Genesis, and thought that humanity didn’t understand “god’s plan,” fossils were put there to trick humanity, etc

              They were always kind to me and their only grandchild (our daughter). As long as we didn’t speak religion or politics, then we could get along.

            • L. C. Spencer

              So, he’s still able to be in touch with them though he’s out? And they interact with you? I haven’t seen my father since I was in my teens, and they didn’t tell me my grandmother had died. With my ‘people,’ it was all or nothing. They were able to get my younger brother back for a while after we escaped, but he’s out now. We just don’t talk about it. It’s too much.

              I’m glad your husband made his own life. It seems such a classic success response to go do the opposite of what your parents told you was out of bounds!

            • Eclipse-girl

              We were always in touch with them. There was never a disconnection or separation. FIL died in 2003 and MIL died in 2012.

              I think if the church had tried to pull that disconnection stuff, the In – laws would have walked. While an evangelical denomination, I am not sure it was a true “cult.”

              Yes, Mr E doesn’t realize how damaging it could have been. But he was hurt by what he experienced.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Knickers. I know somebody who has JUST the right pair…

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I was planning on black with my mask.

  • Eclipse-girl

    Maybe the planned dated for the IAS convention is chosen to minimize protests. It is the day after thanksgiving, and black friday.

    DM doesn’t want to let the Euro Whales who might attend see there is are protesters who attend these events?

    I agree with John P. that two weeks between the SP kick off and the IAS is not intelligent.

    • TXCowgirl

      The “IAS is not intelligent”? Therein lies the problem.

    • Espiando

      There’s a better reason for the week gap. The 23rd is the 50th anniversary celebration for Doctor Who. You don’t celebrate your science fiction when there’s better to be had.

      • Eclipse-girl

        I have been watching Dr who since the local NPR station started carrying it in the early 1980s. I did not know the date, though. TY for that info.

    • GlibWog

      E Turkey day and Black Fri.. won’t stop the protesters!

      • Eclipse-girl

        Glad to hear that. I hate Black friday and refuse to participate.

        I will not be down in CW in meat body, though.

  • SciWatcher

    I say let them keep the drape–it’s like a giant death shroud.

  • TXCowgirl

    “And now,” cried Max, “let the wild rumpus begin!”

    • DamOTclese2

      A circus that opens and only has clowns is a circus doomed to fail.

  • RMycroft

    Oh man! I have a schedule conflict with the IAS event. Sorry, can’t go–If only I’d known sooner!

    • stillgrace2

      Ha Ha. I see what you did there! Still chuckling here.

    • ze moo

      Sec check time RMycroft. Please bring your unlimited credit cards and first born.

      A real indication of how Miscavige is doing will be count of clams who use that excuse. While so many are available for seat filling, paying customers may be scarce.

    • DamOTclese2

      No problem! Just send in your check through the mails, no need to actually show up to hand over every last dime you have.

  • And I’m Cute, Too

    The next Massive Cult Fail is in only two weeks!? Gotta make space on my calendar for that weekend — don’t want to miss a thing!

    • DamOTclese2

      I would expect they get 2,000 customers and their friends and family to show up at these, easy. Not many more than 2,000 though, that would be a significant percentage of the total customers world wide that Scientology has left.

  • BosonStark

    The IAS thing seems like a huge anticlimax. How many days can the clams spend dancing around the new Super Power building anyway?

    • Espiando

      As long as it takes for planetary clearing to happen. Or for their bank accounts to reach Clear.

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      Enough time to see all the banners that the protesters can make.

    • DamOTclese2

      Until Miscavige tells them they can stop.

  • Donut

    This could easily be the public tipping point for the church in a big way. It’s one thing to sell this bullshit to members, but the delay in opening the Superpower Building has been a massive tease for the world’s media.
    Miscavaige has to deliver on all levels this time or face total humiliation.
    Imagine paying big bucks for a David Copperfield show and then he does nothing more a couple of simple card tricks.

    • Espiando

      This is why I fully expect them to open the building and announce GAT 2: Electric Boogaloo, but not immediately offer delivery of Super Power. Disappointment over Stupid Power is what’s most likely to trigger the Mass Migration Of The Whales. They’ve positioned Super Power to require GAT 2, the Basics, and the Purif and Objectives as pre-requisities, so they can put in a long delay until they come up with something that might not result in a I Paid How Much For This Shit? reaction.

      • Donut

        That makes a lot of sense, keep the tease going. Should still be worth watching how it plays in the media:)

        • Espiando

          You know, I don’t think it will. Other than the obvious PRWeb and Freedumb Magazine pieces, the only people covering it (who aren’t on the fringes of the Internet) will be the TB Times, and it’ll be either Joe or Tom doing the piece.

          • Donut

            Time will tell, but reporting on decline and bad PR of Scientology is becoming mainstream.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Mainstream media is usually a day late and a dollar short.

      • DamOTclese2

        “This way to the Oiliness Table, no pushing, no shoving, everybody gets a turn! Right this way, folks, Oiliness Table for everyone!”

        • Espiando

          But everyone wants a shot at the Oiliness Table, including us. The Oiliness Table, in fact, is the only part of Stupid Power that won’t need any type of advance sale. It just sells itself. It’s…well, it’s the Oiliness Table. It needs no reason. It just is.

          • DamOTclese2

            Well yeah! I want time alone with the Oiliness Table so I can photograph and record every scientific principle and nuance so I can manufacture them and sell them on eBay. I checked, the stupid clowns forgot to patent their Oiliness Table. I’ll make $ millions! $ in stolen scientific oil technology!

    • DamOTclese2

      He’s going to “face total humiliation” regardless of anything he does. The only way to minimize his “face total humiliation” would be to set fire to the SP building, set fire to his tent, and then blame it all on Marcabians from the Fith Invasion. Fleet.

  • Interested

    Edit for comment and thanks below.
    Koki (earlier blog from Jon) has told me that Tony has 100x plus said we must not use the term cult. I admire Tony to the limits, and if that is in fact something that he has requested (I admit I have not seen this to date) then I will respect his wishes.

    However, where I come from they are NOT considered a religion, and if the “the war is over” had not occurred whereby this scumbag and his creatures had not hounded in their private lives so many innocent people attempting to do a thankless task (yeah I don’t like paying taxes either, but if we didn’t ….. ) then in the USA it would quite possibly not be considered a religion either. Even LRH knew it was a facade.
    So give me a word, other than a “cult,” that conveys the same control of body and mind and I will use that in the future, willingly

    • notclear

      Scam?

    • Espiando

      Spiritual Ponzi Scheme?

      • Interested

        Ooh I like this one SP.p so the SP.p will be holding a great opening of the SPBuilding. Hummm chuckle.

    • i-Betty

      Criminal Organisation?

    • Johnny Tank

      Quazi-religious guerrilla group?

    • ze moo

      Pyramid Scam

    • Tony Ortega

      I avoid using the word “cult” in stories. But in comments I don’t care what you call it.

      • stillgrace2

        Whew! What a relief. Thank you.

      • GlibWog

        Tony… You know that Hookah you teased me about at the SP Party.. That huge metal one..? I was walking with it and a cop was waiting at the side of the road waiting for speeders..
        He motioned me over to his car and said.. ” What do you have in there..?” I grinned and said
        ” Oh this is an e cig.. Just Nicotine Vapor..” He said.. ” Well others have been putting Weed in them..”
        and I said.. ” Oh really..? ” and then I whispered..” Where did they get it?” hahhahahha
        Thank God he laughed!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Baahaahaa

        • joan nieman

          Glibby that is hilarious!

        • jeff

          They got it from Denise Miscavige, of course.

          • GlibWog

            Brilliant Jeff! hahahhaa

      • Interested

        Thanks Tony. We need you…

      • L. C. Spencer

        You have no idea how tickled we are just to see you commenting here at this point, regardless of what you say :-)

    • Robert Eckert

      Tony said no such thing. I don’t know where koki is getting such an idea.

    • George Layton

      Oh Shoot, so we can’t say:
      Cultish Culters Culting?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Um, check my Av?
      A cult is cult is a cult.

    • Captain Howdy

      I wouldn’t worry about what Borat Bulgravia thinks.

  • chukicita

    I can only imagine how easy it will be to get flights into TIA on Thanksgiving. Yikes.

    • Espiando

      Seats should be easy to come by. Everyone will be at home celebrating the most important event in the history of America: my birth.

      • GlibWog

        Woo Hoo.. I know I will be celebrating your Birthday Espi.. Just a great reason for me to eat Caek..
        Happy Birthday my friend.

      • Eclipse-girl

        Nov 28? That is the anniversary of my nieces birth. She will be 18.

    • Sunny Sands

      I’ve picked someone up at TIA the day before Thanksgiving and it was brutal. Now you can’t wait curb side anymore, but have to go to the cell phone waiting area. It’s actually nice there with rest rooms, snack machines and a big jumbotron with all the plane arrivals.

      Thanksgiving is the most heavily airline travelled holiday. The return home flights are also difficult to book at this late date.

      • L. C. Spencer

        I’ve done that too. TPA is normally so fantastic to get in and out of, but Thanksgiving is a terrifying stampede. Not to mention the Super Bowl. And I just stayed away altogether during the GOP convention.

    • Sibs

      That’s why they’re expected to go there on the 13th and stay there all the way through the end of November (at least, that was the vibe I got when Tony said they were told to bring whatever would make them comfortable at their stay. That screamed “indefinite stay” to me)

      • Eclipse-girl

        Still they could have had the SP event a week later. They just want to make the publics pay for two weeks at Flag, and Co$ hotels.

        Parents may be taking their kids out of school for about 10 days. Some school systems get pissy about vacations in the middle of the school year

        • Sibs

          Well, if only the people who can afford it make it, that’s a way to wean out the undesirable poorer types who care if their kids have to miss school for two weeks. Or the undesirable parents who care so much about their kids that they would put off their eternity (or whatever).

    • L. C. Spencer

      Not easy to do even when there’s nothing else going on. *shudder*

  • notclear

    It might be a good idea for Clearwater to park an ambulance outside of the Super Power building in the event an unfortunate disciple runs into a wall in the dark room, or the multi-axis enturbulator malfunctions, or something like that.

    • Johnny Tank

      Or slips on the oil from the… Well, you know which table I mean.

      • DamOTclese2

        I adore investigating all the possibilities of mishaps with the Oiliness Table! :)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Ambulance? When there are so many inside qualified to slip the hapless victim a Touch Assist?!?

      • DamOTclese2

        Just think of all that can go wrong with the Oiliness Table and possible medical steps EMT will need to take. A dip stick and a funnel in every EMT responder’s black bag should be included. :)

  • dmscohb

    And, with the big events being in Florida, make sure to “word clear” all the words in the many articles written regarding the proud history of “Hip Hip! Hooray!” that you’ll be expected (upon threat of sec-checks) to yell so often and so loudly. (I know, I know, the web is full of scary woggies, but we’ll make an exception this time since you’re at Super Duper Flag surrounded by OT’s and nothing can hurt you here!) Words and phrases you’ll need to clear include such doozies as “anti-semetic”, “Holocaust”, “ghetto”, “racist slur”, and “hunting for Jewish people”. Elron Hubtard sure chose an applicable chant to himself!!!

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/24/offensive-words-_n_4144472.html

    • junojones

      The anti-semitic roots go back even further than the HP writer mentions. It was a rallying cry for pogroms against the jews during the crusades, per Barbara Tuchman:

      “The capture of the Holy Sepulchure by the Moslems was blamed on the ‘wickedness of jews” and the cry ‘HEP! HEP!” for ‘Hierosolyma est Perdida’ (Jerusalem is lost) became the call for murder.” (A Distant Mirror, pg 110)

  • Missionary Kid

    Since the dates have been announced for Flag base in Clearwater, FL, Here are some resources to check the weather.
    National Hurricane Center http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
    Government Weather forecast for Clearwater: http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=27.9658533&lon=-82.8001026&site=all&smap=1&searchresult=Clearwater%2C%20FL%2C%20USA#.UnUqSxBuFgs
    An easier to read local forecast for Clearwater from the heather underground: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=zmw:33755.1.99999
    This site has a pretty good track record for predicting winds. It’s meant for hang gliders and ultralights, but I find it pretty accurate for winds The location it’s for is Tampa Bay International. http://www.usairnet.com/cgi-bin/launch/code.cgi?Submit=Go&sta=KTPA&state=FL

    To see what your local forecast is, anywhere else in the U.S. on the Weather Underground, Go here: http://www.wunderground.com/

    • Mark

      If I didn’t know you for the rational, moral, person that you are MK, I’d be inclined to think your comment contains more than a scintilla of wishful thinking about hurricanes and the like…

      Oh, what the heck:

      “Blow, winds, and crack your cheeks! rage! blow!
      You cataracts and hurricanoes, spout
      Till you have drench’d our steeples, drown’d the cocks!
      You sulphurous and thought-executing fires,
      Vaunt-couriers to oak-cleaving thunderbolts,
      Singe my white head! And thou, all-shaking thunder,
      Smite flat the thick rotundity o’ the world!
      Crack nature’s moulds, all germens spill at once,
      That make ingrateful man!”

      • Missionary Kid

        What I’m hoping for is a very strong microburst at tent city. I don’t think it will happen, but let’s keep an eye out.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Wouldn’t it be the definition of irony if a microburst happened and all the anons and protesters rescued the entrapped scientologists from their tent of doom?

          • Missionary Kid

            Perfectly appropriate.

      • ze moo

        I shall pay my local witch doctor 5 bucks to send them an ill wind. Or maybe all the burritos will smell up the tent. I am counting on the burritos.

        • Mark

          Now we’ve got the dates, I’m working up ritual invocations of Jupiter Tonans and Aeolus…

      • An Theta

        Bacon, right? :) You provided a lovely image to ponder and conjure ~ thanks

        • Robert Eckert

          I think it’s King Lear

          • An Theta

            A lame attempt at an esoteric one-word joke about Francis Bacon being Shakespeare. I’ll show myself out…

          • An Theta

            you might enjoy this video tidbit
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo_YTmH3EBY

            • Robert Eckert

              In an edition of a recently rediscovered play “Cardenio, or the Second Maid’s Tragedy”, which the editor thought Shakespeare collaborated with Fletcher on, there was a lengthy discussion of Shakespeare’s handwriting: there is a particular hand found in many of the surviving script papers of the theater companies Shakespeare was associated with, which is characterized by highly variable forms of the letters (the editor jokes “That’s Proteus, I’d know him anywhere”) and he makes a good case that this is Will Shakespeare, comparing the handwriting in the will, and noting that some of the weird word-changes in early “quarto” printings of Shakespearean plays can be explained by someone trying to puzzle out this atrocious handwriting and mistaking what some of the letters were.

    • DamOTclese2

      Be sure to bring Guy Fawkes masks!

  • edge

    Wow, two weeks notice for major events that will demand that Scis stay for two weeks. It’s a pretty big thing to ask of people on short notice, and I think it’s a safe bet that the turnout will be far less than 10,000. That’s okay for the IAS tent which only holds a couple thousand at max, but the bigger question is how many of those people will be those who stayed the whole two weeks. Holding the event on Black Friday? Can you say footbullet?

    But no worries, since they’ve already hired actors for photoshoots and videos, maybe some aspiring actors can be seat fillers too.

    • GlibWog

      OK I will take the bullet for all of us.. I will volunteer to be a seat filler!

      • edge

        That’s awesome! All you need to do is smile and stand and clap on cue! Not bad for $150 bucks a day!

        • GlibWog

          and take a camera…( wink wink)

          Now COB is going to be nervous about everyone who fills out an application..hahaha

      • DamOTclese2

        Be sure to oil up before going in!

        • GlibWog

          Well.. That would take a hell of a lot more than $150

          • DamOTclese2

            Well yeah, if you use a quality extra virgin olive oil like Grapelli. But if you use a cheaper brand, say Safeway canola oil, it should not be more than $5.

            • GlibWog

              Oh I thought you were talking about something else..
              bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahhahaa

  • alice

    will they let me in if im wearing gym shorts and my metallica shirt …i’ll bring $100.00 in pennies !!!

    • IASREG

      YES. You can go into the portable toilet tent for 100$. I’ll take that 10$ commission!

  • aboutandout

    Tony there is no doubt that you are a big huge thorn in Davey’s side. I find it interesting that a day after your announcement, when you will be deep into your new role (not focused on Bunker) Voila! the announcement of the Clearwater parties. Hmmmm coincidence or not? Or just wishful thinking that you would drive him that crazy.

  • IASREG

    The Church of Scientology is pleased to announce these dates wherein the final stages of a new Scientology society will emerge. New alliances are being forged that will make Wogs cower and shatter their suppression. Scientology welcomes the John Birch Society, Westboro Baptist Church, Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints, The Family, and our newest friends and partners in the Tea Party. Ron revealed he would come back as a politician. Ron’s Thetan has returned!!! He has been with us for a while! Freedom lovers, THIS IS IT! We are super power excited to announce the Ted Cruz/Tom Cruise 2016 Presidential campaign. With Ron’s Thetan installed into Tom’s meat body we will take this planet for Scientology! YOUR FUTURE IS AT STAKE. Gather the credit cards, the debit cards, the retirement fund, the kid’s school funds, get a second mortgage and take that car title into the title loan shop. IT IS UP TO YOU, because I tried to reg Teabagger Ted Cruz supporters on other boards and got NOTHING, DEADBEAT DEGRADED BEINGS. TED CRUZ/TOM CRUISE 2016. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? DONATE!!!

    • Narapoid

      Your tone 40 is an inspiration and a fine example for all of our parishoners! Expect my check as soon as I sell my Datsun!

      • IASREG

        Thank YOU for the theta ack! Don’t forget to mention your registrar (IASREG) so I can get my commission! ARC-IASREG. We have got the ball rolling now! I have had two pledges for donations. One from a Mother Jones filthy Wog degraded being who offered to throw a few bucks towards Purifying Fire Ministries or Ted’s PAC and a much bigger one here today to the Cruizin’ Teabaggers 2016 TCX2 Presidential campaign! Do you need links to make more donations? Warning, the Purifying Fire Ministries photo of Suzanne Hinn (wife/ex-wife/wife) of Benny Hinn has been known to cause some side effects, such as blindness, erectile dysfunction, headaches, stroke, heart attack and death. But anyway, you KNOW that any donations to Purifying Fire Ministries will be used ethically (relative to the ethics of the Hinn’s and Scientology).

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Cruz/Cruise 2016? I’d rather go on a Carnival Cruise.

      • IASREG

        You sir are in luck! A donation of 10,000,000$ or more receives a Carnival Cruise Cruisin’ for Teabaggers 2016 TCX2 Presidential election campaign Presidential Suite!!! DONATE NOW!!!

    • DamOTclese2

      I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Checking in from abroad! Just walked past here and not even on purpose. The lady inside tried to shove something in my hand and that’s when I noticed were I was. Derp. *refresh*

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      You are a magnet for them.
      Throw a baguette at them and run.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        At the moment, a basket of fish and chips would be more appropriate. And I would NEVER waste a perfectly good baguette even if it was to smack a scilon upside the head. Maybe some cold pate…

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Lol….no….save the pate for me!!!

          • Artoo45

            Mmmmmmmmmm. Paté.

        • Mark

          If you’re in Manchester, belt them with a black pudding or a bag of frozen tripe!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Yes…..and will do good sir!

    • i-Betty

      Wotcha, L. Wrong! I hope your trip’s going well :)

      We’re having fish and chips tonight. Wish we were having Cuban food with a view over the Bay and no need for 2 sweatshirts :(

      Have a safe trip. x

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        I think I might have a spot of fish and chips too!

        • GlibWog

          Have a Mike’s Hard for me L Wrong..

          ( Hard Lemonade Smart Ass..) Punches L Wrong in arm

      • GlibWog

        I misssssssssssss you … : /

    • Mark

      That woman in the red cagoule appear to be Morris-dancing in the middle of the shop – doing a little celebratory jig because she’d just “disseminated” you, no doubt (the only $ciloon leaflet handed out in the entire Greater Manchester area today, I’ll bet).

      • i-Betty

        “That woman in the red cagoule appear to be Morris-dancing in the middle of the shop”

        Hur hur :P

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          It’s good to see you and your Hur hurs back, i-Betty. Hope you enjoyed America.

          • i-Betty

            Thanks so much, Jimmy. It’s great to be back :)

            Miami was so different to what I expected; there are some really beautiful areas, and because of the time of year I was able to handle the heat. My freckles have joined up giving the impression of a tan so I’m looking better than I have in ages! Of course, a couple of weeks doing nothing but swimming, eating, drinking and sleeping will do that to you!

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Lookin good, I’m sure! And you definitely went at the right time of year, the only times I’ve been were in July. It’s brutal. Glad you enjoyed it tho, cheers.

      • i-Betty

        She looks like the last turkey in the shop, poor love.

      • Casabeca

        More Morris-dancing please!
        And your undie jokes are priceless.
        You and I Betty make me even more of an Anglophile :).

        • Mark

          Blame Betty’s friend for showing her knickers in the first place (naughty girl) ;)

          • Casabeca

            You are awfully adorable!

    • villagedianne

      That big “S” in the sign looks really satanic.

  • richelieu jr

    Really? The event will be held LIVE?
    As opposed to what,exactly?
    A rerun?
    Puppets?
    DEAD?

    What a bunch of hyped-up bell ends high on the fumes of their own bullshit.

    • i-Betty

      Scientology:

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Miley? Is that you?

        • i-Betty

          Oh, that poor bull. For shame, Michael!

    • IASREG

      It depends upon the individuals postulate to MOVE UP IN STATUS TODAY!!!

      • Miss Tia

        “CHOOSE LIFE!!!” Unless you’re a pregnant Sea Org member, then you are forced to abort. :(

        • IASREG

          Even the unborn at any stage of development can benefit from In Between Lives Insurance!!! If you are being coerced to have an abortion the church will now coerce you to buy insurance for the embryo/fetus as well.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        IAS REG, we in RTC remind you to promote and reg for the new IAS Between Lives Area Protective Services Insurance Agency: http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/11/01/new-rtc-ecclesiastical-ruling-ias-patron-status-and-bridge-progress-invalid-at-death/

        • IASREG

          Sir! Yes Sir! If you do choose DEATH, come on into the org and see your registrar about IAS Between Lives Area Protective Insurance Agency. Best to go with the 10,000,000$ or MORE, it will save BIG $$$ in the long run of a billion years!!!

  • Guest

    Beware the Ides of SMERSH!

  • Mia

    Off topic, but I am going to see Lisa Marie Presley tonight. She is playing at a small venue and there are no bad seats. I am excited! I am curious if she will interact with the audience or not.

    • Guest

      Have fun!

    • i-Betty

      Have a great time, Mia!

    • IASREG

      Shout out a request for “You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet”.

    • Artoo45

      Tell her “the bunker loves you!”

  • ClwSPteam

    So anyone local like to setup a nearby SP meet-n-greet? I’ve been working on a DIY Oilyness Table

  • sizzle8

    I imagine that every staff member in the state of Florida has been ordered to attend – including Flag crew, perhaps 1500. Then there are the outer org trainees, another 1000. Local public and those flying in, max 1500.
    A guesstimate is 4000 tops. I don’t know what the Fire Marshall allows for tent occupancy, but I don’t think it’s above 3000.

  • jmh
    • i-Betty

      I’ll do San Fran Bay, Sacramento and LA, but I really need to get on with dinner – my children are starting to look gaunt :P I’ll pick up when I get back. Thanks Jmh, you’re ace :)

      • Robert Eckert

        Come back after dinner and hit the rest of the cities. Sometimes I see “purple” ads on the lists (ones that I have flagged earlier) and I note how few of those survivors there are compared to the swarms of ads they originally came from.

        • i-Betty

          Thanks, Robert :)

          For no reason whatsoever I seem to have focused on the East Coast since we started doing this and it’s always nice when a new list is posted to see how few of the previously flagged links remain. This is my first foray into LA and I’ve flagged a few of them as Prohibited for the first time (I usually stick to Spam) for their blatant abuse of everything and everyone CL’s rules.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        gosh, i-Betty, don’t you have rice and beans you can put out on the table for your kids while you do your CL work?

    • jmh

      By the way, Bunkerites… I’m going ahead and posting this here, to let you all know that our CL ops have been very effective thus far. :D Thought this might give everyone a little boost to know we’re ruffling some feathers up top.

      • Sibs

        This is fantastic, jmh! And we all have you to thank!

        • jmh

          You all are the ones who made this possible. There’s simply no way I could do this on my own. It’s our strength in numbers that makes the difference and takes down the ads.

          • GlibWog

            We all love you jmh.. one of the true army of warriors responsible for doing a large part in bringing this Evil Cult to it’s knees. xo Glibby

      • jmh

        A big thank you must go to JustDee for her huge help recently. She helped come up with a very effective way of searching as much of the US as we can. It’s working very well!

      • Sherbet

        I get it that the CL campaign is ruffling feathers, but I don’t understand 98% of that text. Wha? Can someone put the last 5 paragraphs into normal English?

        • jmh

          This e-mail came from a source, to me.

          I’ll translate as simply as I can. We’ve been reported to OSA by several people on Staff across the U.S. for flagging (RCS) Radical Corporate Scientology’s ads. At least three DSA (directors of Special Affairs members) have heard about it and reported us on up to OSA.

          Co$ is very annoyed that we are encouraging the general public to flag their ads when we see them.

          Two staff members (most likely Dana or Tony in CA) and (most likely Corey in Houston) are trying to claim that our counterposts are hate speech and should be removed, and that we should be banned, despite the fact that they regularly violate CL terms of service.

          Any term that Co$ has trademarked, (Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, Dianetics, etc.) must be approved for use before an individual ad is posted. Some staff members who were posting weren’t getting proper approval and they were reported and got into trouble for going outside of procedure.

          The thread this person is referring to is the CL thread at WWP.

          • Sherbet

            Ah, gotcha! Thank you! And thanks for all your CL work.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I still no understand all.

        Where did this message originate?

        What discussion thread is referenced?

        What is a “DSA?”

        What is “RCS?”

        What are “FSMs?”

        Thanks for the clarification, and thanks for keeping the pressure on Craigslist.

        • Sherbet

          Apparently written by Prof. Irwin Corey and Norm Crosby, DDD.

        • jmh

          I just replied to Sherbet’s question and translated it.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Thank you!

        • antibity

          DSA – Director of Special Affairs (OSA Staff at Orgs)
          FSM – Field Staff Members (people who bring in people for scientology services for a commission)
          RCS – maybe related to the type of Craigslist Ad being posted, it doesn’t seem to be a scientology acronym to me.

          • Robert Eckert

            Mike Rinder uses RCS for “Radical Corporate Scientology” (a term for indies who don’t want to call it the {church} or whatever)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Dude- I should remember to like not bother! I think I’m helping out, getting some info for someone’s question. But — I have to remember to look at the whole thread first, cuz more likely than not, you’ve already gotten the answer out onto the Bunker.! You *are* the man.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Thank you.

            • Casabeca

              Thank you…I needed that!

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              RCS is what RindersBlog calls the Cult of Scientology. Someone on the Bunker knows what it stands for. It’s a acronym of derision.

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            Today in Radical Corporate Scientology, the modus operandi is “do what I do, not what I say (or what LRH says)”. “Command Intention” trumps everything . from RindersBlog.

            • antibity

              thanks, not an orthodox scientology acronym, as it were

        • jmh

          I just edited the post with the image and added the translation. :)

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            WONderful Thank you.

        • DamOTclese2

          FSMs — Flying Spaghetti Monsters.

          • Robert Eckert

            Nancy Cartwright aspires to become God, but lesser beings have to content themselves with becoming Flying Spaghetti Monsters.

            • DamOTclese2

              I’ll take FSMdom any day, I adore garlic! I eat toxic amounts of garlic, just ask anybody around me within a mile radius.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              not a fan of you, mr. eckert, but this is pretty darn funny.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        What cracks me up in this pathetic little message is the statement “…for every new ad that they’re forced to generate…” Yes, we are “forced” to do this! Of course, the concept of anyone engaging in what would seem to be a tedious activity of one’s OWN FREE WILL would be a foreign concept to the DSAs, FSMs, and PSs (Poor Saps) who are dealing with this on the other side.

        • jmh

          My source, who wrote this e-mail, is someone close to Scientology who is out, but is still on ‘good terms’ with the church. They fly under the radar. They’ve been a great source for info from the inside!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Ah. I get it. The Scientologists are the ones forced to generate new ads. Now that’s funny.

      • John P.

        Interesting that they’re getting after people for failing to get approvals (“Issue authority”) on some of these ads. The hint is the fact that it’s all about the trademarked terms. Standard trademark law says that if you use a trademark in conducting business, but don’t put language on it saying that it is your trademark, then you are at risk for losing the trademark.

        So I wonder if they are just following normal procedures or if they are suddenly getting heat from above for not policing their trademarks enough, leaving them powerless to try to pursue legal action against people using their trademarked terms (Indies for real, and us for lulz).

        • jmh

          I don’t think staff members, or whomever is reporting them to the DSA’s could pass up a chance to make themselves look good and root out someone who is PTS. That’s one of the really sad things about Co$. It’s all about survival, and the only way to do that is to turn on those around you.

          I think it is possible OSA basically ended up doing an audit of their procedures for posting and found out people weren’t following guidelines.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Where did I read this: A sea org member was spotted with a new tattoo of the sea org symbol. COB said to him “Did you get I/A for that?”

          • GlibWog

            Michael.. Lawrence Wright.. Wrote it about Tommy Davis..

            I’ve also read it a couple of other places on the net..

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Ah, thanks. I should have remembered that.

            • GlibWog

              hahaha I can’t remember that I did.. All that information going through my head.. but that one stuck with me..

  • Robert Eckert

    To celebrate the day after Thanksgiving (I’ve needed an excuse for this song a long time):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTMj8x75pWk

    • i-Betty

      Such a terrific song.

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    I wonder how many successful dentists and chiropractors are able and willing to shut down their practices for 2+ weeks on short notice?

    • Interested

      Not only willing and able but also “can afford ”

  • Snippy_X

    1. Thanksgiving at Discovery House, Duluth, Georgia

    (original housing for Narconon, GA. Same people, same spa and vitamins)
    http://discovertreatment.com/residential-addiction-recovery-program/

    2. Thanksgiving at Narconon Georgia 2012 (**license surrendered**)

    • Sydjazz

      Oh nice um

      • Snippy_X

        I know right? I want to start using some drugs to get me some of this slop. I’m so sick of beans.

    • Snippy_X

      3. Discovery House Website today – they are still at it!
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/181030915/Discovery-House-Web-Page-2013-11-02

      Exercise/Spa Detoxification

      A combination of exercise and spa heat therapy in conjunction with safe
      vitamin and mineral supplements help our clients reduce cravings for
      drugs and alcohol and return to feeling calm, clear and centered.

      • i-Betty

        Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

        • Miss Tia

          Wait, can Discovery House lose it license too? They should!!!

          • Snippy_X

            Discovery House is only licensed as a half way house. They claim to refer people to various treatment programs, but in the past it was always to Narconon. Since they still advertise sauna and vitamins, one might wonder if their rehab partner, Narconon of Georgia, just went underground after surrendering their license to avoid prosecution for insurance fraud.

            • Miss Tia

              I think it’s a safe assumption Narconon has gone underground. I hope people are keeping eyes and ears open and will report them IMMEDIATELY when they discover their latest reincarnation. That insurance fraud money is income they wouldn’t want to give up so easily!

              I would think half way houses would need some kind of licensing/credentials/certification through the state too.

  • ze moo

    So, Davey is finally going to roll the dice and see if anyone notices that he ‘squirreled’ ‘source’ in a nonstandardly manner by shoe horning Stupor Powerz into the lower levels of the Golden Shower of Tech2. No matter what face he puts on the delays {they were planned, yeah, that’s the ticket} he has to get the faithful to accept his changes. As they have no choice, the whales and SO will accept it, but will the rest of the flock accept this new fleecing? Will they accept it when they go home and vote with their wallets?

    It only takes one to shout the emperor has no clothes, and they don’t have to say it in Clearwater. DM will be living on antacids and scotch until the year ends. I shall enjoy his discomfort.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      “Golden Shower of Tech2″….. could be some shoop fodder there!

  • Pepsicat

    Are you sure you have your facts right Tony? I heard the events were going to be held via Skype…. ;-)

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    Supah Powahz. Can’t wait to do buy the services in the Supah Powah building.

    By Tony O. Village Voice 2012. The Bright Think Rundown.

    The rundown itself consists of a single question that an auditor asks
    while the subject is holding the “cans” — the sensors — of an
    e-meter. When the subject answers the question, the auditor observes the
    e-meter’s indicator needle, waiting for it to achieve the condition of
    “floating.” Until then, the auditor will simply repeat the question,
    eliciting responses from the subject. And then ask it again. And again.
    And again.

    The question? In this case, it seems remarkably simple: “Where would you be safe?”

    And that’s it.

    Ask it enough times, and the subject will give a response that
    correlates to a floating needle, indicating that the subject is in “PT”
    — present time. “The end phenomena of the process is a realisation by
    the pc that he’s really in present time. This EP is normally expressed
    with some variation of the statement ‘I’m here!’,” Hubbard writes.

    I’m here.

    I wanted to make sure I understood this correctly, so I reviewed the
    rundown with Dan Koon, and several other longtime former Scientologists,
    and they all assured me that I had grasped the situation.

    It is this: Scientologists will be asked to pay fairly exorbitant
    rates to take the Super Power Rundown. On the lower end, ex-Sea Org
    member Chuck Beatty estimated that this up-front charge will be about
    $10,000 to $15,000

  • whingeybingey

    That is really disappointing that the city is just going to let Scientology open its checkbook.

  • Dean Fox

    Wish I could be there… protesting (disseminating entheta).

    • Miss Tia

      Me too!!

  • Jimmy Threetimes

    Celebrating New Years on December 27th? Who does that? I’m beginning to think there’s something not quite right with Scientology.

    • Captain Howdy

      They do that so they have time to edit the video and ship it out to the orgs.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      They can celebrate New Years whenever they want! They have just that much control over MEST.

      So there!

  • DamOTclese2

    Two Weeks! I’m so excited! I’m booking my flight right now!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I’m exhausted already. It is too much trying to follow two threads at once. And both so… interesting.

    Off to some real-world Saturday afternoon activities. See you all later!

    • i-Betty

      Have a great day, Douglas :)

      I am off to hide under a table until the fireworks have stopped. I’d be delighted if someone could send a vet round to put me into suspended animation until the bangs have stopped.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      If watching football counts as a real-world activity, that’s what I’ll be doing too.

  • deathtoallpoliticians

    hmmmmmmm. i live in palm bay, florida. that is about 2 hours and 45 minutes from clearwater. methinks i may have to get a stupid looking cob mask, multiple cameras, a few signs and a few bucks for an extended stay. can you enturbulation? lol

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Have fun and be safe out there!

  • DamOTclese2

    Scientology apparently plans to replace the KSW drape with one or more others. (Any guesses for which slogan is next?

    Something along the lines of “David Miscaviage is NOT! NOT!! Insane!”

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      I A S will definitely be one of the necks

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        in accordance with your comment, i believe the next sign will be the new ias slogan “all forces unite”.

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      Well, I laughed…

    • Jgg2012

      “David Miscavige does NOT run CSI”
      “Sea Org members do NOT work 100 hour work weeks”
      “The Super Powers building IS complete (almost)”

      • DamOTclese2

        The insane crooks should put up a programmable led sign so they can put up lots of fraudulent lies. :)

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

    “We’d rather have you dead than
    incapable.”

    Easy.

    • Miss Tia

      If you’re dead does that also count as a success for Narconon? I really wonder if they count death as a success, I bet they do.

  • DamOTclese2

    We don’t envy the Clearwater police their task of keeping it all from boiling over.

    Well, we won’t have Frank Ofman or Mary DeMoss assaulting peaceful law-abiding protesters so the clams might behave themselves.

  • deathtoallpoliticians

    ATTENTION ALL BUNKERITES! I AM THINKING ABOUT ATTENDING THE CO$ ACTIVITIES ON AT LEAST ONE OF THE DATES. I WAS WONDERING IF ANY OTHERS ARE PLANNING ON GOING? I WAS THINKING WE COULD MEET UP AND CARRY OUT SOME SERIOUS ENTURBULATION?

    • Room 101

      Seriously just walk around chanting out the Clear and OT cognitions. You may even start a riot.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        an excellent idea, 101. it has just made my list. :)

      • Ruby Grapefruit

        Can anyone remind me what the OT 8 cognition is? I keep forgetting it – must be my whole-track amnesia.

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          “I now know what I am not and am ready to find out what I am”.

          • Ruby Grapefruit

            Sounds suspiciously like the lower conditions – find out what you are – isn’t that Treason?

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            Right! After talking telepathically all those spirits of dead space aliens, to get them to leave my body. For years and years!

            Now- finally! I’m ready for OT9 !!!

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          said another way: “i mock up my own bank.”

          • Robert Eckert

            That’s the Clear cognition. You have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to get from there to “I now know what I am not”

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Bingo! That is the OT8 end phenomena. After I’ve spent scores of thousands of dollars, into hundreds of thousands of dollars, after auditing – telepathically talking to spirits of dead space aliens, doing so for 6, 7, 8 years, or more – Oh! Thank you very much! Now! I know who I am NOT?!?

              …okay… WHEN’S OT9 being released?!?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              If have always loved the OT8 EP.
              I personally think I would have stood up and grabbed the auditor and beat the shit out of him/her.

              That Is Fucking It?
              Really?

              Bwaahaha.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              !!splayed my gin and tonic went flying!!

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          The OT8 cognition, the end phenomena of OT8

          —— “NOW, you know who you are not!”

          *That’s why* the whale clams are frothing for new of OT9, OT10, OT11. !!

          • TXCowgirl

            By process of elimination, if you now know who you aren’t, would’t the remaining bits be who you are? :)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Cool! But that snark, dear TXg, only works for ‘regular people people’

              For the scilons, it means, Oh shit, I’m back where I started, with some of the same shit problems I had then. Yikes!!! GIMME OT9 !!!

        • Room 101

          I’ve recently been informed that there aren’t any OT cognitions. But we’ve still got the Clear cognition which is “I’m mocking up my own reactive mind”.

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      awesome! i just found a great website teaching how to make a david miscavige mask! here it is: http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-David-Miscavige-or-any-one-paper-m/?ALLSTEPS. now how to decorate it so that i can display my never-ending affection for cob?

    • KJP in Portland

      I’d meet up somewhere near me. I think I’m a way aways from you my friend!

      MISSION ENTURBULATE!

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        that is ok, my friend kjp. you got the northwest, i got the southeast. mission enturbulate is a GO!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I was planning on Friday and Saturday.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        well, btn, we will have to make plans to meet up somewhere in clearwater. as the time approaches, please feel free to hit me up at lawdog69@hotmail.com. we definitely need to coordinate! :)

        • DeElizabethan

          They will be ready for us so be prepared. Peaceful protest! Hey, it sure will keep all the sucker guards busy and they can’t attend the events either.

    • DamOTclese2

      I am looking at possibly attending and if I can make it I will bring 10 Guy Fawkes masks to hand out.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        awesome, dotc2! as i said to btn, hit me up at lawdog69@hotmail.com as the time approaches. as kjp said, mission enturbulation is a GO! :)

  • IASREG

    The website WND has been declared a Suppressive Website for banning IAS Registrars. WND is Fair Game.

  • stateofcircle

    I’d bet the only reason Miscavige put that ungodly KSW monstrosity on the tent was to cry religious persecution and strong perseverance in the face of opposition for leaving it up even though the horribly evil and oppressive/suppressive Clearwater government has had a general ordinance in the book that was clearly invented to suppress/oppress (I can never decide which…) Scientology. That’s all I can think of when I read about that damn tent.

  • BananaSplits8

    I glanced through the posts and didn’t see this mentioned (so, sorry if I missed it) but cos going ahead with these events without required event and secured occupancy permits is disturbingly out of character. WTF do they have up their sleeve? There’s no way COB is going to tolerate public (and protesters) anywhere near their doors. Are they going to follow the Westboro Baptist Church rule book and put the onus of security on the CPD?

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      i hope so because i know how to talk to cops, not scilons. i went to law school with a ton of police officers. i should be able to wrangle some serious leeway :)

      • BananaSplits8

        Yeah, well when cops are jittery and fear a riot, they’re not exactly in a leeway mood, so good luck with that.

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          that is a good thought, bs8. however, the videos i have watched on youtube generally show the cw police, even in the presence of very large crowds, to be calm and level headed when trying to figure out what the situation is. their reaction afterwards may be something totally different but i am pretty good at discussing applicable law with the police.

    • KJP in Portland

      It is strikingly odd. And, aren’t those double-doors kind of ‘armored-looking’. My mind is thinking several things at once about ‘what does Misfit Dave have up his sleeves’. The permit shunning and signage and their non-communication really disturbs me.

      That gives the City only 2 weeks now, to get the gonads, along with a city or county ordnance, to forcibly TEAR THAT SIGN OFF (personally, I vote they bring the National Guard in and force everyone out of the tent — then bring over a nice, army helicopter, a couple of rapellers from the helo, and lift that sign off the tent with one of their big cargo hooks!)

      C’mon Clearwater, c’mon county, C’MON Governor of Florida!…back up your small cities and their ordnances and bring in your National Guard for just a ‘small sweep’. Please?

    • Eclipse-girl

      Brought up from way down below

      PickAnotherID

      • 7 hours ago

      Aside from the fines, I thought the Mayor said the city would not issue a ‘Certificate of Occupancy’ for the tent if the sign didn’t come down. If the Cof$ doesn’t get the certificate, then what?

      Tony Ortega Mod

      • 6 hours ago

      Good question. I’ll check with the city on Monday.

      BigMcLargeHuge

      • 2 hours ago

      Based upon my reading, the Cert of Occupancy was related to the fire code compliance of the wrap. It wasn’t part of the original building permit so it had to be cleared by the Fire Marshall or they would withhold the CoO. That happened within a day of it going up.

      The sign ordinance is different and isn’t part of the building permit/certificate of occupancy issue as far as I can tell (and it usually wouldn’t be as occupancy certs are based upon compliance with the building and fire codes and the sign ordinance is completely separate from those). The fines will wrack up day by day but the City, if it wanted to, could probably file a lawsuit to try to get an order requiring removal of the sign, but by the time that worked through the process the tent will probably be down anyways so what is the point.

  • TXCowgirl

    “Get your COB here! Come and get your COB!”

    All of the protesters will need sustenance during the exciting Co$ events this month. I’d love for a hot dog street vendor (because they are already licensed) to sell roasted ears of corn-on-the-COB on a street corner across from the Super Signage…I mean Super Tent. Maybe wrap the cart in a favorite shoop of His Smallness? Oh, and the vendor could sell Kool-Aid, too.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      That’ great! And it is *always* COB, as in corn-on-the-COB !! Instead of the cloying way the cultists say C — O — B which makes the midget equal nearly with L — R — H. Yes!

      • TXCowgirl

        So the vendor’s bark should be, “Get your COB here! Come and get your C-O-B!”

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          That’s very good!, TXg.
          (if you in the state of Texas, you wouldn’t go to the Monique hearings ever, would you … just wondrin’)

          • TXCowgirl

            I’ve been considering doing so. My friend has a river house 15 minutes from San Marcos and it’s protected by several coded security gates. She would let me stay there. Who knows? It could happen!

            • Interested

              Yeah, you could keep us posted it Tony is too busy. (Or just hold his pad if he is still going to be doin his thing)

            • TXCowgirl

              Or toss rose petals at his feet.

            • Interested

              Ooo nice one!

            • GlibWog

              Good Lord ..is it a Drug House?

      • KJP in Portland

        Well, it won’t be said in an official capacity much longer! Thank the stars…

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          Dude- “much longer.” Dave has limitless $ resources to fight all the law suits, drag most of them out for years, 5 years, 10 years — he’s got *teams* of lawyers going in France, Belgium, Australia, Germany, all over the USA; he’s got *hundreds* of private investigators working dozens of jobs all over this country and others.

          So much longer. Dude – this is called the Bunker for a reason. It’s a long, hard fight, and we fight the good fight every step of the way. But we don’t want to see outcomes in rose colored glasses. To remove corn-on-the-COB miscavige from Chairman of RTC … gonna be a long hard climb.

          • Eclipse-girl

            You are absolutely correct. However one of these lawsuits (Laura’s) has been going on already for 4 , almost 5 yrs

            I also think that judges who do bend over backwards to appear fair to both sides, and getting fed up with the delaying tactics.

            Let us hope we are starting to see the cracks.

            • KJP in Portland

              Eclipse, I think we’ll find out shortly with Judge Waldrip and the judge in Florida. Oh, the avalanche, the TSUNAMI of lawsuits coming from every direction on Earth that are coming. Run to the Flee-Winds, Dave! Run!

          • Donut

            I’d prefer it if Davey was one of the last to leave, he’s doing a good job from our point of view.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Natch, Donut- no doubt. It’s only kinda that our preferring Davey to be last or not is like a non-sequitur. He is an *absolute ruler* over a business worth $2 billion. He is Captain of SeaOrg, which gives him charge over *everybody* in The Cult of Scientology. He has his shit ready to wage battle. Plus, he could take to the high seas like Hubbturd did. This guy is going to battling for years, with those kind of resources. He commands probably 500 OSA intelligence agents. He’s spending $20 million in 2013 for lawyers, globally. That’s all I’m sayin’. Yes- he is a fucking PSCHOPATH, so yes he is doing a damn fine job from our point of view, as you put it. He is assaulting people in public. That is the person’s “religious pennance” for transgressions. Ha! what a joke. Yes, it will be amazing to see it fall. But it’ll be years.

            • Donut

              I’m afraid I agree with you, it could be years. The difficulties in removing Miscavaige will likely mean many years yet before the church is in a position to reform if it ever does.
              It seems that his future and scientology are intertwined. I fear for anyone who has to deal with him on a daily basis, that must be a hellish situation. I doubt whether he would be capable of stepping down even if it was the only way to save the church. More likely he will preside over a shrinking organisation that will increasingly resemble a PR department and a network of useless empty buildings. You never can tell though. LRon’s final years were as weird as it gets and his legacy survived. The internet is the difference this time around and has been the driver of events outside the church, it has a way of bringing chickens home to roost. So too will a series of successful lawsuits, particularly for an organisation that cares about money as much as Scientology. They are not invulnerable to legal, social and economic threats, they just act as if they are. Meanwhile everyone who blows and everyone who resists recruitment is a win. I’d love to know what the real stats are over the last ten years, all I can say with certainty is that my local org is much less active.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      How about soft pretzels shaped like their OT symbol?

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        Bang!! Zoom!!! To the Moon!

        • KJP in Portland

          Use one of the remaining Saturn V’s in backup storage. You know, the Apollo boosters. Nasa still has a handful, fully maintained in silos. Strap Dimwit McRetard to one of them and launch it in the direction of the Van Allen belt!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            I understand it’s quite toasty there. It’s been proven. By, you know, science.

            • KJP in Portland

              Solar wind? LRH didn’t even know what that was…lol! Perhaps he thought that’s what happened after a beans and rice diet!

      • Casabeca

        Brilliant!

    • KJP in Portland

      (((hugs))) aint “COB” and Dave…(don’t forget Vapid-Tommy) make an icky visual?

      Dave, cob, Tommy…ewww!!!

      LOL!

      • TXCowgirl

        Have someone dress up as a big ear of corn wearing a Commodore’s uniform.

        • KJP in Portland

          Lol! Or dress up as one big corn-hole! ;p

    • Eclipse-girl

      Can street vendors just change the type of food they are vending?

      • TXCowgirl

        Idk. I’m enjoying a Saturday afternoon daydream. The mental visual is cracking me up.

        • KJP in Portland

          Ooooh, tellme what’s in your head, your daydream!!!

          • TXCowgirl

            I haven’t had enough alcohol to go down that road with you this afternoon.

            • Eclipse-girl

              It is only 4:23 pm (central time). I havent even started on the alcohol.

              OH, its “FALL BACK” tonight. you get an extra hour of sleep

            • TXCowgirl

              College football Saturday! The beer and margs started flowing at noon. It’s all in the pacing. :)

            • KJP in Portland

              GO GO GO you lovely DUCKS!

              Bummer, it’s their bye-week :( Ok then, GO BEAVERS!

            • Eclipse-girl

              The Badgers won earlier today

            • KJP in Portland

              I just had a bit of Kahlua in my coffee?

            • Eclipse-girl

              I make no judgement on anyone. I just can’t drink in the morning or early afternoon, anymore.

            • KJP in Portland

              Let me know when you’re ready to ;p ALSO, let me know tonight of you want to connect. I’ll give you a quick code of where to look for my email.

      • KJP in Portland

        Yeah the visuals on c-o-r-n are too icky. Sausage vendors! (I aint winning there either).

        I guess that leaves pizza, or pretzels?

        • Eclipse-girl

          One could probably GIVE away food.

          In my town, street vendors (carts) all have to enter into a competition against one another, and request one of a few dozen spaces. Everyone completes every year.

          • KJP in Portland

            Oh my, FREE FOOD? Think of all the lower ranked poor staffers and the RPF’ers STAMPEDING the free food. It would look like the gates of Mauthausen, or Dachau rushing the American liberators of their camps!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          PRETZELS!

          As in: wrap your mind around this, and not around that!

          • KJP in Portland

            It’s become a personal joke to me DDD (and a few others) about the Dynamic Duo and “CoB”, lol! No offense to YOU intended.

            At this juncture of my knowledge, thanks to The Bunker, I think Tommy and Slave have a bit more than a platonic friendship, IMHO!

            THAT would be the end of Cruise’s career (funny, not anyone else’s career in Hollywood. America is much more accepting than say, 30 years ago). But with all Tommy’s shenanigans…IT WOULD Guillotine his career, overnight. No casting calls ever again…

      • KJP in Portland

        (((HUGS))) Eclipse!

        • Eclipse-girl

          (((HUGS))) KJP. I take it the new job is going well.

          • KJP in Portland

            I’m hanging in there!

    • Sunny Sands

      I don’t want to burst anyone’s fantasy bubble, but I’ve never seen a street vendor selling anything in Clearwater, other than the Wednesday market where they close off Cleveland Street. Then a small section of downtown is only vendors, including food, until 2:00 p.m.

      • TXCowgirl

        There is evidence (real evidence, not LRH evidence) that there have been plenty of food vendors at festivals and events. If the $ci-circus isn’t an event, well gosh darn, I don’t know what one is! :)

        • Sunny Sands

          Oh, true, festivals at Coachman Park.

          • DeElizabethan

            Other groups also have concerts and other things once or twice a month between Ft Harrison and Osceloa on Cleveland. I’ve attended and lots of food displays etc on the street. Gawkers only from scios and they look so out of it! Same with the Holiday jaz Fest for 4 days and 30,00 on one night showed up for the group Chicago. A few stood behind a fence and watched awhile from the Sandcastle.
            They do not participate, since they have their own busy little world.

            BTN and I were there when they had the annual box car racing for kids and it seemed fun.

        • DeElizabethan

          All those events etc put on are NOT by the organization. Heck they don’t do anything for the city except maybe Xmas time offer a fairlyland for kids on their own property. They don’t even attend any event downtown, but may look in passing.

    • GlibWog

      OMG…hahahha And sell WALE MEAT ON TOAST.. they are toast anyways.

  • DamOTclese2

    Guy Fawkes Masks can be purchased Here At Amazon anywhere from $1 up to $1,000. :) Since the protesters will be outnumbering the customers, get your Guy Fawkes masks early to avoid the rush. Get two. Get three. Other protesters may need to borrow one.

    • jmh

      Just bought mine for under $3. I won’t be in Florida, but I will be at the next Narconon Arrowhead protest if I can help it!

      • KJP in Portland

        I’m going to order 2 or 3, they’re cheap enough. Maybe I can get free shipping on Amazon too?

        • jmh

          I got mine with free shipping. You should be able to. Just make sure the seller is near to you if you’re on a time crunch.

        • DamOTclese2

          I bought 10 masks, I had to pay shipping however putting them all in one box was cheap, something less than $5 shipping.

          • KJP in Portland

            Good good good! that’s cheap enough for shipping!

    • Espiando

      Be careful if you’re wearing one and it’s warm. You will sweat like a pig under it. I keep saying to myself that the reason I name-fagged myself was to get us some press, because they needed a real name next to quotes. The real reason was a Chicago summer plus a Guy Fawkes mask. It was a relief not to have to wear it anymore.

      • Jon Hendry

        Someone needs to sell Fawkes masks with a solar fan. Or maybe a liquid cooling system.

        Throw a digital video camera in there too, while they’re at it.

      • GlibWog

        Espi.. What does the expression Name Fagged mean? I keep seeing on WWP..thanks..

        • Espiando

          Name-fagged means that your name is publicly known, whether through OSA or the PIs finding out who you are, or purposely revealing it. I name-fagged myself in 2008 in order to get a couple of newspaper articles on ChiAnon published. Because of this, we made the lead article in the electronic version of the Chicago Tribune for Sea Arrrrgh and got a bunch more Anons to join us in future months.

          Name-fagging has always been a negative thing with Anons due to the fact that it often leads to ego-fagging or leader-fagging, which is anathema to Anon (it comes close to Anon being a personal army, which Anon is not). The fact that we had no leaders or egomaniacs drove OSA nuts; they wasted a lot of time trying to find out who the “leaders of Anonymous” were, never realizing that it was Tommy Davis all along.

          • GlibWog

            Very Interesting history.. I knew you would tell me. I always lurk on WWP and didn’t know how to join to be secretive.. ( Just a different e mail address ..oh probably can use the one for here..)

            I wanted to ask a couple of times over there, but didn’t.. sigh.. yay..Thank you..

    • GlibWog

      **** I do NOT know if it applies today..**** but I did read somewhere ( WWP?) about NOT buying from
      Ebay because OSA gathers info.

      Unless the seller has sold many with lots of feedback..

      NOT just selling a single one..

      But really?? GF is worn more times than just protests..

      Just be careful..

  • DeElizabethan

    Just returned from work and a quick trip downtown. Didn’t see a stop work order posted yet or whatever they called it. Haven’t seen a photo it posted yet here… Really is a Tent City!
    They now have a 3rd tent on the South East side of the main tent. It’s maybe 1/3 size of the main one and flush to the back. and side on court street. About 30 men mostly in black working around the front.

    • KJP in Portland

      Poor people in black. Poor souls. Words can’t describe how I feel about forced labor in 2013 United States of America. Oh, I’m grinding my teeth again!

    • Interested

      DeE you are amazing. Can you answer my question above re how they are going to get into the tent? Thanks

    • Sunny Sands

      That’s a lot of people working on the front. They were putting in landscaping along the front yesterday. Should be interesting to see it when finished.

      • DeElizabethan

        Yes, and that’s the most I’ve seen at one time, but this was mostly at the new 3rd tent back off the front street.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      There are also the “OT Tents” on an empty lot adjacent to Flag.

      Owned by the Church, OT’s in Clearwater for the holiday events will be allowed to camp here if they lack the wherewithal to stay in the Fort Harrison or the other lovely hotels at Flag:

      http://affordablehousinginstitute.org/blogs/us/wp-content/uploads/nyt_webb_bruce_tents_small.jpg

  • SignsOfSuccess

    Everyone is happy at Flag.

    • Espiando

      Or the beatings will continue.

    • jmh

      Yay! Time to watch your donations go down the drain for a stupid party! And meanwhile, you all will pay through the nose for Scientology accommodations while you’re there!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I will happy at Flag in my GF mask.
      Wanna join me?

    • Once_Born

      I have never seen so many strained smiles in a single photograph.

    • Mark

      What’s the girl in the stripy top trying to do? Prepare for a dental descaling or turn her head inside out? Talk about forced inane grins – it’s like a rictus sardonicus convention.

    • Interested

      Oh dear, someone photoshopped the teeth. They look strained poor sods. Welcome back SOS. Perhaps this time you will learn something.

    • nottrue

      EVERYBODY???

      • Pepsicat

        christ all mighty. When was this picture taken?

        • DamOTclese2

          Looks like mid 1970s.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Nope, this is fairly recent.

        • nottrue

          2012

          • Eclipse-girl

            How young was that poor child on the RPF?

            • GlibWog

              I would guess 10

            • Eclipse-girl

              NO CHILD SHOULD GO THROUGH RPF.

              MY TEARS FLOW.

            • GlibWog

              Oh sweetie I know. I have grandchildren that age..I can’t imagine.. : /

            • Eclipse-girl

              This is where I would go stupid and pull that child out and give him / her (my res is not that good) PUE, and a hamburger and pay for their bus to go to non scientology relatives

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              And you can’t………It is like watching an animal suffer.
              You have to stand there on the sidewalk and speak out, take photos, take video and voice recordings.
              You have to calmly show them that the “evil” Wog can be the good ‘non threatening’ guy.

              Darth Xander, Dee (and so many others)………..standing in sea org alley and calmly and nicely showing them books and hoping they glance at it.
              It is heartbreaking just how hard it is to break through the barrier.

              fucking heartbreaking.

            • Eclipse-girl

              can I just cry about that?

            • DeElizabethan

              So true. They hate for the sheep to hear the word Miscavage and yet with Jenna’s book, they cannot stop it. Not all the members know those out ,that have written books. Ha, they don’t even know they are out, if they did know them. So making it real for them to see what’s out here brings some hope. Now with the guards it’s little different, but fun to help them fail with the umbrellas act or blocking. One just goes around them with strong purpose.
              Wez goin have some fun.
              Edit: and maybe save somebody by giving them an idea. We cry and we have hope!

            • GlibWog

              Yep.. and I promise I would visit you in Federal Prison for Kidnapping..sigh.. xoxo

            • Eclipse-girl

              It would be worth it.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Cadet Org.
              Darth Xander filmed a little kid with a broken leg “on crutches’ getting off the bus too.
              I guess the poor kid pulled it in.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I get mixed messages. Was Cadet Org stopped or just put under fucking cover?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              What do you think? You see the pictures.

              The cadet org still exists.

              COS also says no one under 18 can join the sea org……

              MY ASS!!!!
              Oh and that doesnt mean a cadet org kid cant be sent to the RPF…..remember they were going to send Leah Remini to the RPF when she was well under 18.

      • nottrue

        EVERYBODY???

        • sugarplumfairy

          =(

    • DamOTclese2

      “Come on, everyone, smile. Really try to smile! Oh come on, look, if you don’t smile we’re going to have to ethics you and sec check, you don’t want that, do you? Now smile. That’s better. Hold it… Hold it… There! Okay, all of you back to your rooms. Now!”

    • Jo

      Happy as a clam.

      • KJP in Portland

        A great big, Ed McMahon…”Ohh, ho-ho-ho-ho!”

    • Eclipse-girl

      I wonder how many of those young women (girls) were assaulted at FLAG. Assaults, and rapes are covered up at FLAG.

    • Robert Eckert

      They’re having the best time ever:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfzfy0jy74

      • GlibWog

        Robert.. OMG.. Look at Cloris Leachman near the steps..( Loved Twilight Zone..)

        Damn.. I wish he would have download all 3 episodes. In the comment section he said you can find them on YT..

        Will go back and snoop later..

    • Ruby

      I wonder how many were paid actors…like the ones they recently advertised for in California and Florida, specifically for filming of Scientology ads. You saw those ads didn’t you. SOS? They were posted here the other day. The cherch is having to hire and pay actors to film success stories!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Talk about desperate out exchange!

    • DeElizabethan

      Sure this picture shows most are not American and sure for a picture of course.

      Few years ago I spent some time at Flag. It was the most unfriendly, unhappy place, except when they were trying to get some money from you.

    • i-Betty

      Poor buggers.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Yah.. That’s why you need all those gates, locks and security cams..

    • Room 101

      I can’t tell if they’re happy or just saying “Cheese”

    • KJP in Portland

      Wishing for cheese and ham to go with the beans and rice. Smiling hard to put in the hours to ‘earn’ ham and cheese. Poor, poor, poor 2nd or even 3rd generationers. My heart feels heavy for them.

  • Interested

    Daft questions. I don’t know if it’s been asked before. How are the whales, clams and celebs going to enter the tent.. Does the entrance lead from the Harrison? At some point. They must enter even the Harrison coming from other hotels. How will they accomplish this without seeing the enturbulation that Anon and others are sure to make? As they do not have permits to close the sidewalks etc, can anon and others get permission, at the last moment to pass along those sidewalks. And last question, there was that shooting by a cult guard recently, do you think they will be permitted to carry arms?

    • TXCowgirl

      Maybe, right now, they are digging a tunnel (complete with lights and a/c, to connect the two venues). That way, the celebrants would be safe from all of the evil protesters.

      • Interested

        Didn’t someone say it was a bad idea to build basements in Clearwater! The tunnels, if they should /do exist could fill with water ruining all the second hand evening ware. ( no one can afford new anymore)

        • L. C. Spencer

          Bad idea to build a basement anywhere in Florida. Also illegal without special building permits and, usually, special work by contractors to make them safe. My neighbor actually has one and said it cost almost half what the house itself did, but he was determined to have it because he’s a Northern emigre and he was used to always having a basement.

          • Eclipse-girl

            basements are wonderful. The laundry goes down there. Mr E’s various tools go down there. And he keeps getting more. We have storage by bikes during the winter. We even fit two older pinball machines in our basement.

            I can’t imagine not having one.

            • L. C. Spencer

              I LOVE them, having had one while living inland once and now that I’m currently visiting northern relatives who have one. She’s a gardener and stores all the root vegetables she grows there, no fridge needed, and they make cider down there. AND they have an attic where they can put all their holiday decorations and extra stuff. Floridians tend not to have attics either, or at least usable ones, because whatever you put up there tends to warp or melt, or be eaten by our monster insect community. So if you have a 3-bedroom house in FL, it has less living space than the same one up north because it has no storage except in closets.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I love basements and attics. I can’t imagine NOT having them

              I have only LIVED where there is a winter. It kill bugs and building have to build to withstand freeze / thaw.

              MR E wants to dive. I think we are moving to a tropical climate for weeks at a time. It worries me.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Don’t do it! The hurricanes and the rest of the weather get worse every year. Plus, you never get to see the seasons change!

            • Robert Eckert

              I hate the changing seasons. We just got our first chilly-drizzle front. This is the time of year when I usually start contemplating suicide daily.

            • jeff
            • Robert Eckert

              The lucky thing is, when I am sufficiently depressed to want to die, I am too depressed to actually take any action.

            • noseinabk

              AAACCKKK. I just got done explaining to my son why DST is so hard for so many people. I need my vitamin D and my longer days.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Oh, I’m sorry. My friend is affected by the coming of fall and said she got great help from a light box. I wonder if you would find that useful as well?

              We don’t get much changing of the seasons in Florida except that the weather gets hotter and more humid starting in March or April, and becomes bearable again around Christmas. Other than that, I spend a lot of time pulling the blinds and cranking up the air. I don’t consider the sun a friend of mine. Ironic, I know. I hate spring for that reason.

            • Robert Eckert

              I do shine lights on myself in the morning. But it is also that the chill makes me physically ill for several months. I’ve always been susceptible to colds (missed 70 days in first grade) and I’m getting as weak in my age as I was when I was a kid.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Oh dear, I do feel for you. We probably should just change places in life! It’s the heat I find debilitating. I’m currently visiting northern relatives and basking in the cold, which I know must sound ridiculous to you.

            • Robert Eckert

              Can we swap?

            • L. C. Spencer

              *sigh* the grass is always greener, right? With my luck, I’d manage to move north and then my metabolism would change and I’d feel as you do.

              I tend to get colds too even though I’m usually not cold. When I feel one coming on, I take a dose of Ban Lan Gen (a TCM medicine, it’s just isatis root in tea form). A lot of times I can head it off that way or at least make it milder, if I catch it soon enough. If you have an Asian market anywhere near you, you can buy it cheaply over the counter, no need for a prescription.

            • Robert Eckert

              I’ll look, but Detroit is not a real hotbed for Asians.

            • L. C. Spencer

              I looked and you can also order it online, from Amazon and other places. Here is some background info on the herb itself. http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-911-ISATIS.aspx?activeIngredientId=911&activeIngredientName=ISATIS

          • TXCowgirl

            Permits?? The Co$ would have to get permits??!!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        I think they will save the tunnels for LA.
        You dig a tunnel in CW and you are just begging for a sinkhole.

        • TXCowgirl

          True dat.

        • Jon Hendry

          “You dig a tunnel in CW and you are just begging for a sinkhole.”

          Redundant. They’re already in a sinkhole.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            touche’

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Someone just posted there’s a 3rd tent going up today, maybe 30% of the size of the other and it’s flush up against something. They’ll probably walk through that into the main tent.

    • Sunny Sands

      There are 450 spaces in the scilon parking structure, shown with a red arrow here. Where the white truck is, is a driveway. The tent has about 4 or 5 entrances on it’s east side there. At least some of the participants will park and enter on the east. I think the busses will shuttle people there, too. Pic is from Nov. 1. I like the police cars in the foreground.

      • GlibWog

        Thanks sunny…xoxox you are a doll.. I just love seeing these pictures..ha.. It doesn’t take a lot to entertain me.

        • Sunny Sands

          Thanks for your kind words, GlibWog.

      • nottrue

        PARKED AT THE FRONT DOOR OF TENT

        • KJP in Portland

          Beautiful! (and so are you!)

      • Donut

        Love your pics of the tent and preparations. Reminds me of “Something Wicked This Way Comes”

      • DeElizabethan

        Police cars always parked there for years, across from the station to the right. Where that truck is maybe they were dropping off the tent, altho I saw a flat bed on Court street today at that place.

    • DeElizabethan

      No they won’t carry guns I’m pretty sure but will have private paid police to be sure. Also It will be more secure to drop off whales and vips at the hotel and they can walk across the bridge to Mecca. Otherwise they will be brought by van/car I’d think or have protection to cross streets.

  • stateofcircle

    You know, I am VERY offended and downright hurt that I am not able to book a room at the Fort Harrison because I am not a card-carrying Scientologist. I thought anyone with a Dianetics book was a Scientologist? This is religious discrimination and I don’t have to stand for it!!!

    • GlibWog

      I waved at them through the window once..I thought for sure I would be invited.. ( You know I was included in their stats! )

    • TXCowgirl

      Go as a single $cilon’s plus one.

      • Espiando

        Ask Marcotai. He’d be happy to have a woman speak to him for the first time in his adult life.

        • stateofcircle

          That would be about the only situation in which a party with no booze or hope of copulation would be positives.

        • TXCowgirl

          A tall, lanky Texas woman might cause him more enturbulated theta than he can handle.

    • stateofcircle

      I’m sure there is some loophole they get to exploit, but I wonder if there would be some way to legally go after them for only allowing Scientologists to stay there. I know that not all of their entities are completely tax-exempt, because they make a profit (ASI and Bridge, for instance). Since the Fort Harrison hotel and restaurants make profits, could there be some sort of legal argument about discrimination here? And for the exes – can you deduct your Flag accommodations or just your services? I’ve always wondered exactly how much of Scientology can be deducted by a Scientologist. That would be an interesting article. I don’t think I’ve ever seen much information about that.

      • ze moo

        The FT Harrison pays taxes. Lodging is not a ‘sacrament’ in CO$. The other clam hotels pay sales and hotel taxes too. I can’t answer for the restaurants, but I would suspect they pay too, Of course the staff are sea org who earn little to nothing.

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          you are wrong, ze moo. try denying lodging to people based on the color of skin. religious persecution/discrimination is also outlawed in all accommodations, even private business such as restaurants and hotels. please see the civil rights act of 1964.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        there is. the civil rights act of 1964.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Just for fun……….

    • Eclipse-girl

      Really, you do not want to be there. There are insect infestations. You wouldn’t want to bring bed bugs back to your own domicile.

  • J. Swift

    Who says Santa doesn’t deliver as promised?

    http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/sadhu77/DMSanta.png

    • Mark

      A Nightmare Before Christmas!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Yay, there is a Santa!
      And he is drunk ass!

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      That’s freakin’ Grrrrrrrrrrrr8 !!!

    • Robert Eckert
    • KJP in Portland

      My eyes…MY EYES !!!

    • i-Betty

      You have just, quite literally, ruined Christmas for me, Swift :P

  • sciloonfairy

    I’m watching TC in Interview With a Vampire. Suddenly I realize why he has an issue with incisors.

  • SignsOfSuccess

    While Tony Ortega and Jon Atack are left to figure out why smart people joins SCN, Smart people are DOING something good.

    • Robert Eckert

      “Smart people are DOING something good” like leaving Scientology.

      • KJP in Portland

        SMART PEOPLE stay the hell AWAY from scientology (impressionable teens excluded)

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Marco. Are you doing good right now? Are you recruiting? Are you causing any angst?
      No.
      But we do love to mock you and make fun of Scientology.
      You are helping exploit your fellow man?

      You are not helping mankind.
      You are harming them in the name of a crook named LRH.
      You are the criminal. Not us.

      • KJP in Portland

        MARCO, WHAT ARE YOUR CRIMES?

        Did you ever do anything deviant?

        If so, with whom, and wjen?

        Do you bad thoughts about yourself?

        LRH?

        Do you sleep alone at night? EVERY night?

    • sugarplumfairy

      Dressing up like a box of crayons?

      • FromPolandWithLove

        Cray, cray crayzyons.;p

      • Espiando

        Now you’ve made me want to look up how many shades of yellow are in a 64-piece Crayola box.

        • TXCowgirl

          According to Hearsay, there are 133 standard Crayola crayon colors, 10 of which are yellow. I can’t speak to how many of them there are in a 64 pack.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Lol.. You know.. We should all join scientology so we’d have something more interesting to do on a Saturday night than google crayola..

        • sugarplumfairy

          The wrappers are yellow.. Been a while since you colored?

          • Espiando

            Quite a lot of time. On Thanksgiving, my age becomes the square of a prime number.

            • jeff

              49?

            • Espiando

              Well, let’s see, everyone knows that I’m older than 25, and I’m a little too spry to be 121, so I guess you’re correct.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            No you are not.
            You said dressing up like a “box” of crayons.
            The box IS yellow.

            You are right….Carry on!

            • sugarplumfairy

              =)

    • Eclipse-girl

      How is having a parade doing anything good?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Especially a vulture parade.

    • KJP in Portland

      Ah, the imbecile with the written-English impediment returns…

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Now, now….he speaks several languages. He does pretty well in that regard.

        • KJP in Portland

          I wanted to have fun too! (goes back and sits in his own reserved corner)

      • Snippy_X

        SoS speaks English better than I speak any other second language, so I’m grading on content only.

    • Noni Mause

      Hi Signs. What good things are scientologists doing? Its a serious question. I ask because unlike religions, scientology doesn’t provide any charitable services – no low cost housing, no food vouchers, no free gifts for poor children at christmas, no visiting the old and infirm etc. Scn doesn’t do good works – so can you tell me what good it actually does?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        And handing out TWTH does SO not count.

        • Donut

          Not to mention photo ops for Freedumb magazine.

      • TXCowgirl

        SoS is implying, in the second Smart people reference, is that we here in the Bunker are smart and doing an excellent amount of good.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          That is why he hangs out with us…..he is postulating osmosis.

          • Espiando

            So he’s seeing us suck in water and excrete minerals in order to maintain cellular balance? Hey, whatever gets your rocks off.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Smart ass……….you know darn well how I used the word.
              Darn science guys.

      • SignsOfSuccess

        They HELP!

        • Noni Mause

          Can you give me some examples? (Thanks for answering – I really want to know.)

          • SignsOfSuccess

            Sure:

            • Espiando

              I don’t see any of them giving handjobs, though.

            • Snippy_X

              F-

            • GlibWog

              U-

            • Noni Mause

              You don’t seem sure. You haven’t given any examples. Even if you are just an OSA troll (not saying you are) this is a chance to tell me about the good scientology does. I’m genuinely interested in your answer. I really want to know what good scientology does and what help they provide.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              increasing awarness of the danger of drugs around the globe.

            • Espiando

              I do psych drugs instead of Scientology. I made my choice, and I’m happy with it. I’m also happy to tell that to the entire world to increase awareness of the danger of Scientology. So can I have a yellow rain slicker now? And a handjob?

            • Noni Mause

              I’d really like to have a conversation with you about that, but first want to be clear – Do you mean illicit drugs, psychotropic drugs or both? (Just out of interest, does scientology have an abstinence or a harm minimization approach to drugs?)

            • i-Betty

              Increasing awareness via the medium of DEATH?

              1. Set up a phony telephone line to syphon calls through to Narconon
              2. Find a vulnerable person on drugs
              3. Oblige their family to pay through then nose then charge their insurance company many, many times more on top
              4. Incarcerate the vulnerable person in locked rooms and saunas with other vulnerable people
              5. Ensure a medically trained professional is nowhere to be seen
              6. Allow staff to barter drugs with patients for sex and permit staff to drive patients to local bars and drug dens
              7. Force patients to go cold turkey rather than using the much safer taper method of drug and alcohol withdrawal
              8. Crank up the temp on that sauna
              9. Stand back and watch them die

              Well congratulations. My awareness is certainly increased.

            • Interested

              Add 10. ruin their liver for everererer with those s doses of niacin.

            • Donut

              That’s your best shot?

            • GlibWog

              Good God Man.. People need to say NO to Narconon ..How many deaths so far from the fabulous

              Purif and Hubturd’s Tech..

              Meant for SOS of course..

            • nottrue

              TELL IT TO THESE PEOPLES FAMILYS

            • DeElizabethan

              Sorry SOS but you are still mind controlled. Education is a great thing.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Like Tom Cruise said; “Education IS the key!”

            • jeff

              Unfortunately, he hasn’t had any.

            • DeElizabethan

              Bwaaaaaah!

            • DeElizabethan

              So get educated already, in the subject of scientology outside of the business. Learn about what you are supporting and know how you help perpetuate abuses, evils and deaths.

            • Room 101

              lol if you mean downtown clearwater once a year….then yes, definitely around the globe.

            • Snippy_X

              Again, more harm than good with all the bogus and dangerous “science” in those pamplets. Hubbard was not a medical doctor, fyi. He made this shit up and his 1940’s model of addiction was wrong from every angle. Any true science evolves. Hubbard’s model will not evolve, by decree. That should be a red flag right there. Narconon drug education is a misinformation, PR, advertising, and recruiting tool. There is nothing good about it.

            • nottrue

              THEY ARE RECRUITING. THAT HOW YOU SICKOS PREY ON THE INNOCENT

            • J. Swift

              Here is what David Miscavige — a “smart tech terminal” — allowed to happen at Flag:

              http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/sadhu77/49117d1242003916-lisa-mcpherson-autopsy-pictures-full-set-face2.jpg

            • GlibWog

              Theyshouldnothavedied.wordpress.com

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              don’t agree with you banning me on your site, otviii (it’s me, r2-45 for all wogs) but this is a very powerful and evocative post. definitely makes one stop to ponder. excellent job!

            • Robert Eckert

              Advocating violence is not amusing, even if you consider it a joke, and it can be useful to the {church} in their legal cases.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              mr. eckert, as a lawyer, your post above makes no legal sense. thought is not the same as action. to say otherwise is to give some credence to orwellian thought control.

            • Robert Eckert

              The {church} has already cited posts suggestive of violence as indications that there is a plot to intimidate witnesses.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              and how far have those plots gone in the courts or in the media?

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              allow me to answer for you, mr. eckert. not that far at all. no one gives credence to the co$ talking about violent plots. now if they had actual evidence….seriously, the crime of conspiracy also requires affirmative steps towards carrying out the criminal conduct. thought is not enough in and of itself.

            • Robert Eckert

              The last person who persisted in making posts suggesting violence here was warned by Tony to stop it, or be banned. You are complaining to OT8 that he reacts similarly, but if you act that way here, you won’t last.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              you have no idea why i was banned from otviii’s site so you really should not be talking. however, i will let you in on why. otviii’s wife, karen d l c, posted a video on otviii’s site blasting the co$ and osa financial regularities. i, playing the part of a loyal scilon with the name r2-45 for all wogs, immediately blasted karen and her video as false. honestly, given the satirical nature of otviii’s site, i never would have thought that would have been a problem. i was, after all, just playing the part. however, karen, being otviii’s wife, did not take kindly to what i posted and proceeded to have her husband ban me. i did not swear at karen nor did i gravely insult her. i simply blasted the information she posted. what would any loyal scilon in my shoes have done? i just played the part. karen way over-reacted and i was subsequently banned. now, before you go spouting off other false information, why don’t you go ahead and ask me some questions so that i can fill you in on the other details i may have forgotten.

            • Robert Eckert

              I don’t actually care what particular variety of trollishness got you banned over there.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              the only troll i see here is you. you have been trolling me every since i have been posting. i have done nothing to you. if you want to take me before mr. ortega, then do it. otherwise leave me the heck alone. i have had it with your bullbaiting troll behavior. i will not respond to you anymore moving forward.

            • Robert Eckert

              That is what you said the last time, and kept on with your stupid insults for days.

            • GlibWog

              death.. I saw one person upvote a couple of SOS’s posts. Of course I looked to see who it was and it was you.

              I went back later and the upvote was gone. So I am questioning too..

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              not a problem, gw. that upvote was simply my mistake. please enter my profile and take a look at my posts. i am not osa or the co$. in fact, that makes me laugh. in fact, i intend on protesting at the co$ events later this month. i also offered to help kjp in portland to rescue scilon members. mr. eckert is a troll, plain and simple. he acts like he is the judge, jury and executioner. what is his big beef? apparently my screen name. well, mr. eckert can go fornicate himself with a rusty spoon. he has been riding my butt even since i have been posting, and for no good reason. let me know if you have any questions for this sp.

            • GlibWog

              I love Robert E.. and will never say one single thing against him. He is not a troll. He is kind and funny. He can be assertive as many of us can.

              Your user name is rather blatant..and it is promoting death..I’m just saying.. and Tony has indicated that no threats of violence ever.. I would rethink your name.

              but who am I.. just Baby Ronnie smoking a Kool.

              Thank you for saying that the upvote was a mistake. I could have seen 2, but that also could have been a mistake. Glibby

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              thank you very much for your response, gw. i was hoping that you would see the truth behind my posts. unfortunately, i cannot agree with you regarding mr. eckert. my life would be infinitely better without his harassment. mais, c’est la vie, je pense. i wish you a very good and safe night, my friend. and, by the way, i love your picture! baby ron and the kool. simply brilliant! cheers!

            • GlibWog

              Oh you are welcome.. Oh we don’t have to like each other. That is between you and Robert. You are both big boys and don’t need my interference.

              Yeah.. my Baby Ronnie.he is such a pistol … He keeps trying to Sec Check Me..

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              gw, i hope that when you did the second take on sos’s votes, you saw that i consistently downvoted him. i was especially appalled by his behavior relative to the cult rescue line. who in the world does that? that is akin to blocking the way of an ambulance as it tries to get to an emergency.

            • GlibWog

              I did death.. I understand.. and I know that Robert doesn’t need me to say that he is the last person I would call a troll. Glibby..

            • KJP in Portland

              Eckert is the opposite of a troll. I like and respect his learned posts. ‘Nuff said.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              when all of the evidence is reviewed, gw, do you think i should be kicked off of this site?

            • GlibWog

              No I don’t death.. but

              ” Seriously, the crime of conspiracy also requires affirmative steps
              towards carrying out the criminal conduct. thought is not enough in and
              of itself.”

              Words that are threatening will get a law suit..and it will cost you a fortune against SCN

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              thank you very much, gw. i do value your insight. in this case, do you mean to say that politicians are going to sue me? it wouldn’t be the co$ as my screen name has absolutely nothing to do with them (they would have no case at all). if so, bring it on. i have nothing but contempt for the current crop of american lawmakers. cheers!

            • Robert Eckert

              We just don’t want you ranting about potential assassination targets here. You said you posted here previously using DMSCOHB, a name with more relevance to this board. When I asked why you switched to a name so inappropriate to an apolitical board, you went off on a repetition of your political diatribe, which was precisely what I disliked from you the first time. I still do not understand why you want to drag in irrelevant hostilities to what is usually a very civil board. It has retained its tone of civility because self-appointed cops like myself quickly confront people who come here to make trouble or keep flame-wars going. You have shown that you are capable of making productive posts, but you spend most of your time defending your “right” to attack people.

            • GlibWog

              Oh I’m too tired to think about it Death.. You don’t want to give the appearance that you are violent.. but who am I? Just someone NOT minding my Business.

              That is what I do well.. Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn night.. Glibby

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              i am not violent. i detest violence. serving as a full-time mechanized infantry soldier (11 mike) in the u.s. army out of high school turned me into a pacifist. i am, maybe, a “violent” litigator and negotiator, my friend, but that is it. have a very good night, gw. rest well, you deserve it. cheers!

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              seriously, gw, i hope that you saw all of my negative posts about sos. also, there are other bunkerites who would vouch for me. kjp in portland is one. bury the nuts is another. damotclese2 is another. i believe even enthralled observer would vouch for me. that said, i can’t believe you missed all of my negative posts about sos and his behavior but yet caught a mistaken upvote and assume the worst. i know this community is on guard for osa and the co$ but the unfounded accusations are really getting out of hand…

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              the one person who should be banned is mr. eckert. he is a troll to anyone he does not like. my behavior has nothing to do with his harassment. he hates my screen name and will not leave me alone about it. check out his posts. total bullbaiting. he is an absolute troll and should be ashamed of his attitude and behavior.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              and, if mr. ortega wants me off of his site, he will do so. it has absolutely nothing to do with you so you can get off your high horse, mr. eckert.

            • Robert Eckert

              Tony does prefer that the community police itself, but will intervene if you insist on making yourself a problem.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              if you feel the need to take me before mr. ortega, then do it. otherwise, leave me the heck alone. you are absolutely trolling me and i cannot figure out why. i have done nothing to you.

            • Robert Eckert

              You first showed up here to pick a fight with t1kk, who didn’t rise to your bait, but when Banana said he didn’t think your criticisms were warranted, you picked a fight with him, and gave a lengthy uncalled-for disquisition about why you wanted to kill politicians. I told you this community isn’t the kind of place that appreciates that, so you launched into a series of personal attacks on me that you continued well past the time when other threads have opened. Today you launch a gratuitous quarrel with OT8 about something that has nothing whatsoever to do with this board. You appear to have no purpose here except as a shit-stirrer. I do not need to “take” you to Tony, as he monitors the site himself. I will of course call you out on your behavior any time I feel like it.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              you have made me break my promise, mr. eckert. as a fellow lawyer, i simply thought that attorney pilutik could have made the explanation of diversity jurisdiction easier. i explained this to attorney pilutik and mr. ortega. so shove it. i now demand that you take me before mr. ortega. otherwise, you are never going to shut up or leave me alone. and i can’t stand your troll behavior. so do it, mr. eckert. quit talking and do it. now, i am done with you.

            • Robert Eckert

              There is no procedure for me “taking” you to Tony. The posts on the board are what they are, that’s all, and Tony can step in if he feels like it, although he generally prefers that the community work it out amongst ourselves.

              I have “left you alone” fine except when you insist on stirring shit. I made no response to your post about Pilutik, which I thought a little rude but not requiring much response; he answered, fine, and Banana criticized your rudeness, and you started acting up so I let you know there were others who saw it Banana’s way, and you insisted on making it a multi-day fight.

              “now, i am done with you” That’s always what you say, and you never seem to mean it.

            • KJP in Portland

              He DID intervene with one terrible, bullying, hurtful jackass about 6 weeks ago. I’m not going to delve any further as it really hurt one of our nicest, longest-time posters.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              and, by the way, when otviii first saw my screen name of “r2-45 for all wogs”, he complimented me. you really have no idea what you are talking about, mr. eckert.

            • KJP in Portland

              SHE (LISA) IS WHY I AM HERE. I’ve never forgotten her, since I first read of her 15 years ago. I won’t stop my vigil against the church until it is declared illegal in the United States or it’s COB and high management is locked up in leg irons!!!

              I hope Lisa is smiling today, knowing that Sci is one day closer to its ignominious end.

              I still get teary-eyed, she was so beautiful.

            • Interested

              If a person has a broken back,arm etc, or is seriously hurt, your assists will not help them. Your young kids cannot help people, all you do is take up the space of medicines sans frontiers who really HELP as well as other reliable charitable concerns.

            • Bob

              SOS, here is the bottom line. I’m not going make fun of you etc. I know many VMs and they do want to help. But these disaster activities are orchestrated for PR purposes. They are tiny band aids compared to what some church’s do for the communities with very little fan fare. Rushing in to help in emergencies has its place for the Red Cross but for DM it is FOR PR PURPOSES ONLY. They would never be sanctioned if they had no PR value. I’m not speaking as some Fringy. So don’t glibly give me your by the book answers. VMs have their place when they genuinely help one on one to make a real difference in someone’s life. Just as with other religions and the peace corp when it was really trying to help. At this point Miscaviage is grasping and straws and his main purpose is to try to stop the hemorrhaging of people who are abandoning a sinking ship.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Signs of Success: Thank you for so aptly demonstrating that Volunteer Ministers are correlated with disaster sites.

              The two go together. I think the SP on all those victims cases must be the VMs.

              If we just got rid of the VMs, then there would be no more Disasters!

            • Snippy_X

              Or at least the real relief agencies would get stuck feeding the VM because they didn’t bring their own supplies. No, they had to bring loads of Dianetics books instead. People used them for good though. The books helped prop up makeshift houses.

            • Noni Mause

              MLT, am I missing something? Is there an image attached to SOS’s post above? I can only see ‘Sure: ‘

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Yea, two of them. Refresh to see.

            • Noni Mause

              Thanks – I can see them now.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              because we all know that those poor victims need touch assists and copies of dianetics to help get over their loss. lmfao!

            • Noni Mause

              Hi Signs, couldn’t see your photos before, sorry if my response seemed a bit obtuse. I think that there are many genuine people in Scn who want to help others. My only experience with VM’s was several years ago when I was part of a government disaster relief effort and Scn VM’s appeared on the scene quickly the first day that the disaster site was okayed for others to enter. They didnt, however, go through the right process and obtain official clearance. They were asked to leave because of that. I was onsite at various times over a four week period and we didn’t see them again.

        • Espiando

          When the one VM that we communicated with in Chicago offered assistance, one of us Anons asked her for a handjob, and she didn’t help at all.

        • 3feetback-of-COS

          I’d like to know what percentage of Scientology’s gross income goes towards charity work? Got a number? How can it be verified?

        • L. C. Spencer

          Oh, right! They HELP! They do stuff like, helping people.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNUbUa_0Igw

        • DeElizabethan

          They help you to go nuts and bankrupt, sure we know that.

    • Espiando

      Funny, I don’t see them doing any ministering to anyone.

      • Bella Legosi

        When was the first or last time you ever saw them ministering to anyone when there wasn’t a camera or celebrity near by?

        • Espiando

          Well, I do have to admit that I did see one of them while we ChiAnons were enturbulating a Yellow Tent in downtown Chicago one time. She was about a block away from the tent, on her own, and all of a sudden, she was confronted with about a dozen Anons. She was a bit afraid at first, but ended up communicating quite well. I hope she’s been able to blow in the last five years. She seemed like a good egg.

      • sugarplumfairy

        I’m pretty sure they’re heading to a gang-reg..

    • DamOTclese2

      We caught emails being sent by Scientology criminals to other Scientology criminals deliberatly attempting to sabotage the relief efforts in New York in the aftermath of the September 11th attacks, we intercepted emails where the Scientology “Vulture Ministers” were plotting to aid the terrorists by blocking relief efforts.I really need to put the COSVM web site back up,

      • Noni Mause

        I’d like to see that, if you still have it.

      • Interested

        Yes I too would like to see that.

      • L. C. Spencer

        Thirded, I’d give that a very close read.

    • Snippy_X

      Can you be more specific? What exactly is it that Scientology contributes? All I see are fraudulent programs that do more harm than good, an insane drain on our legal system and on good peoples lives.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Yes, paying the locals to stage a VM parade was a genius COB idea that completely revitalized and transformed the entire country and economy of Haiti.

      Also, the Squirrel Busters was another “pure genius” COB idea that boomed the Ideal Orgs globally and brought the Church of Scientology great PR:

      http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/SquirrelTech.jpg

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      yeah, its called a publicity stunt, and does not fool anyone anymore.

    • i-Betty

      Heehee, that’s so funny :D

    • Interested

      Have you seen the adverts for actors to fill you chirch photos? Do you honestly believe this is not more actors.

    • ShoopZ

      Scientologists in Haiti: A Firsthand Account

      We’ve spoken to someone who traveled to Haiti on a Scientology plane — and witnessed firsthand the ineptitude, quackery and irresponsibility of the church’s minions in a disaster zone. Here’s his account.

      I arrived at JFK last week, ready to go.

      I knew we were traveling with doctors and EMTs, but I didn’t expect to see 50 scientologists, in their yellow shirts with Volunteer Minister on them. They were completely unprepared for going to a third world country, let alone a disaster zone. One girl was in designer cowboy boots. I asked her if she’d brought any sturdier footwear.

      “Oh no, these’ll be fine.”

      I asked another guy what he’d packed and he said he hadn’t bothered to bring soap or toilet paper or food, but that he’d just “buy whatever I need at Port-au-Prince airport.” I couldn’t break it to him.

      They had no place to stay, and no supplies — their idea was to use the ton of money they had to buy food to distribute when they got there. But there was no food and no water. That was the point.

      By the time we arrived in Haiti, after a stopover in Miami, we had missed three landing slots at the airport. Aid agencies — genuine aid agencies — from other countries were being turned away, refused permission to land. But we still got a slot straight away. The guy who ran our charter seemed to think that the Scientologists had some real influence with the US Government, who were assigning the slots.

      The doctors and EMTs in our party headed straight downtown to start working. The Scientologists had nowhere to go, and nowhere to put up the big yellow tent they’d brought for touch healing people in. They went to the UN, and managed to get on to their list of approved NGOs somehow. That meant they could set up in the UN grounds.

      But they had no-one who spoke Creole, and they brought the weirdness of touch healing into a very superstitious society. They’d leave the tent and come into the general hospital downtown, and try healing people. One of the doctors and one of the nurses told me that the wounded started coming to them to tell them they didn’t want to be treated by the people in the yellow shirts.

      One nurse told me that the Scientologists actually caused harm — they gave food to people who were scheduled to go into surgery. That then led to complications in the operating theater.

      On the way back, the plane stopped in Miami and did not go on to New York, stranding all the doctors and EMTs and journalists who expected to get back. After much fighting, the Scientologist representative agreed to fly any of the EMTs that “absolutely couldn’t afford the ticket” on Jet Blue from Fort Lauderdale. I heard there were complications but had bought my own ticket because I was fed up with their weirdness.

      http://gawker.com/5462117/scientologists-in-haiti-a-firsthand-account

      • GlibWog

        Shoopz.. Do you know how much I love you now? OMG perfect timing..

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    CONFIDENTIAL FLAG ONLY MEMORANDUM — BURN AFTER READING

    Note: A Comm Ev has found Harvey Jacques to be the “who” at FLB responsible for having Ev Purps on COB and thus sabotaging the delay the launch of Super Power and GAT II. For his crimes against the progress of the Scientology religion, Jacques has been sent to the RPF. The new Flag Captain will be appointed by COB.

    Please note these dates; they are subject to change without notice.

    Nov 15 – 17 GAT II and Super Power launch. Expected attendance: 12,519. Confirmed: 203

    Nov 29 – IAS Gala. Expected attendance: 18,917. Confirmed: 203

    Dec 27 – New Years Eve Event. Expected attendance: 23, 612. Confirmed: 203

    Note: No one is to be admitted to any Flag event without a laminated picture ID badge.

    Carry on.

    • Espiando

      Well, Harvey Jacques deserved to be sent to the RPF. It’s perfectly fine for someone to have two first names, but to have two Canadian first names? Off with his head.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Yes, Harvey’s very affected SP plot of using two Canadian first names always irritated COB. And then one time Harvey wanted to use the name “Hervey” to make himself seen even more Canadian.

        Moreover, and whereupon, Harvey also failed COB miserably in the 2008 program to bring Scientologists together in the Neighborhood Program:

        http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i68/sadhu77/source-199-32.jpg

      • John P.

        “Harvey” is not a Canadian name. But “Harv, eh?” is.

        • GlibWog

          BOO BOO HISS BOO

          Robert E will love this post..hahahahhaa

    • DamOTclese2

      Should read, “Burn before reading” :)

    • GlibWog

      NO YOU CARRY ON..

      YOU JUST CARRY YOUR ASS ON OUTTA HERE 8 !

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        NO YOU GET OUT OF HERE GLIBWOG!

        We in RTC are on duty here with SignsofSuccess working to locate and shatter Suppression on this wog hater blog.

        We will not leave until Scientology Ethics are fully in on this blog.

        • aegerprimo

          Good thing you signed that billion year contract!

        • GlibWog

          HAHAHHAHAHAH WELL 8 I highly suggest that you go out a buy you a whole lotta

          Astronaut diapers.. cause you are going to need em..

          • GlibWog

            I am going to upvote my own.. HA

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            “Astronaut diapers”

            LMFAO

          • i-Betty

            Hur hur :P

        • Espiando

          It won’t happen. I’m here. And if you try, I’ll reveal all the details of my secret five-year affair with Ken Delusion. You should have never sent him to try to handle me.

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            Please don’t bring up Delusion’s confidential session data on a public forum. Delusion’s NOTs case is already in violent restim and we in RTC need him to hold it together until at least January when all of the new releases are finished.

            • Espiando

              “Violent restim” is one way to put it. He’s like a battery-operated buttplug set on “Vesuvius”. And not even the L. Ron buttplug.

              By the way, do you audit him before he starts pouring down the scotch? Once he has his hands on a bottle, he’s totally useless. However, he does enjoy the empty bottle being shoved…

              …ah, ah, ah, more to come unless you stop trying to put us in ethics.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              SPF…………..need help……….aaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh.

        • i-Betty

          Beautiful!

    • Jon Hendry
      • Kim O’Brien

        OH. MY.GOD……..I FUCKING LOVE YOU

        • GlibWog

          I didn’t get it.. thanks Kim..hhahaha Now I will upvote Jon

          • Kim O’Brien

            i just saw the pot and upvoted …Pavlov would be loving me right now

            • GlibWog

              Yep he would Kim..hahahhaa

  • Bella Legosi

    No permits? That is going to be interesting. I can just see Clams and OSA a like having the non-emergency number for Clearwater PD on speed dial the moment a gawker or protester steps over a “line”.

    To anyone thinking about showing up for a protest;
    1. Buddy up. Never protest alone.
    2. Make sure your batteries on the camera/phone is charged. Video/voice recordings take a lot out of battery life.
    3. Know your local statutes regarding what is public vs. private property lines. Respect them.
    4. Don’t get on the bad side of Clearwater PD! If you believe a cop is being a bastard just record and post! Like wise with Clams!
    5. Have F U N! It’s not everyday you got front row seats to the Tipping Point!
    6. Do some reseasrch on high level Clams and OSA. Know your Cultie!
    7. Ask questions!

    I wish I was down there for this shin dig!

    • KJP in Portland

      Too bad it wasn’t here, but Portland would have NEVER allowed a monstrosity, like that tent, to be put up in such a confined space, so close to the public right of way, sidewalks, bike lanes, etc.

      Oh how I wish Clearwater operated like PDX does.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Permits?

      We in RTC don’t need any stinkin’ permits.

    • GlibWog

      Awwwww Me too Bella.. History in the Making..

    • SignsOfSuccess

      “7. Ask questions!”
      “is this Florida?”

      Make sure to be in the right state.

      • Espiando

        Why don’t you go fuck your ladyboys, Marcotai?

      • Interested

        You really are a sad being. If you are on the OT levels, they are not helping you become a homo novis. Try to learn. I realise it might be hard, but do try. That is what real life is about .

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        i simply love scilons :)

      • i-Betty

        Oh, wait. Hang on.

        That’s really rather funny. Have an up-arrow :D

      • Donut

        Kinda like Davey with Texas?

    • DeElizabethan

      Also if you park on any streets before 6 PM take quarters with you as the meters are watched and check your limit.

      • SignsOfSuccess

        LOL.
        Or just park after 6 PM.

      • Miss Tia

        I bet they’ll rent cars to fill up all the metered spots starting 24 hours prior!

        • DeElizabethan

          City Hall near Oak cove and Hotel has plenty and it’s a city lot. No meter charge on Saturday/Sunday. Unless they talk the city into blocking it off. That would be something. also a city garage not far by the alley, but it enclosed and will be watched. Heck, they will be so very busy protecting the members from seeing or hearing anyone. It should be easy enough.

          • Miss Tia

            Glad to hear that!!

    • SignsOfSuccess

      “2. Make sure your batteries on the camera/phone is charged. Video/voice recordings take a lot out of battery life.”
      LOL

      • Donut

        You’re giving us some serious enturbulation here SOS. Are you hatted in handling SP’s?

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          no way, donut….mmmmmmmm donuts……he is not enturbulating anyone. more likely, sos is amusing everyone here. i know i find his posts pretty darn funny considering the source.

          • Donut

            I was taking the piss :) He’s “as harmless as kitchens”

      • Captain Howdy

        Only dweebs “LOL” anymore, Marco.

        • sugarplumfairy

          And fairies..

          • Donut

            And British Prime Ministers who think it means Lots Of Love :)

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            meh, so do i………..but I am a dweeb………and I am OK with that ;)

            • Miss Tia

              Me too….

            • GlibWog

              OK.. this is a Truism… I have NEVER LOL ed in my life.. I have ha, bawwwwwhahaa…tee hee and yes for Betty

              I have Snickersnorted..but never Lol.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Yah.. Now that I think of it, fairy and dweeb aren’t mutually exclusive..

    • SignsOfSuccess

      Don’t forget your reference book; “Anons for Dummies” :)

      • Espiando

        Too bad OSA never got a copy of that, huh? They promised to “handle” us back in March 2008. They never did, Marco. They never did. I name-fagged myself and they never even tried to Fair Game me. Bunch of pussies. And you were relying on them to keep your {church} safe from its enemies? They couldn’t manage a gerbil cage.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        will you be there, sos? you and i need to discuss the finer intricacies of your false and destructive religion in person.

        • SignsOfSuccess

          Of course.

          Be careful, I will be there watching you…
          …with my popcorns.

          • deathtoallpoliticians

            may i have some? if we are going to go at it, we might as well be civil about it. i’ll bring the soda.

      • nottrue

        YOU PISSED OFF DM. HE WANTS YOUR ETERNITY BACK NOW

      • i-Betty

        Sweet dreams, SignsOfSuccess, you funny little fella :)

      • GlibWog

        ” Anons for understanding Dummies “

      • KJP in Portland

        Don’t forget your copy of “Douchebags for Dummies”

  • IBBy

    I dont have much need for a mask, as I’m too far from any protests that happen. but I did just buy this shirt *refresh*which you can get for $6 at http://6dollarshirts.com/product.php?productid=11761#detailed

    Also HI to the bunker. I’ve been limiting my time online in hopes of having more time for other pursuits, but I still like popping in to say hello now and then and get caught up on all of the scienfoolery

    • jmh

      Good to see you, IBBy! (((Hugs)))

    • jmh

      Meant to ask, have you gotten your shirt yet? Are they pretty true to size?

      • IBBy

        I have several from this company actually, and I order a girls XL for a size 14/16 and its fitted but not ohmygodmyboobsaresuffocating. they seem pretty true to size.

        • jmh

          Good. I couldn’t tell anything by their size chart. Lol. I wear a medium usually and it said 14″ across. I was like… um… what?

          • 3feetback-of-COS

            yes, I found it ambiguous too. they don’t say where you measure the 14″

          • IBBy

            oh ya their size chart is totally lacking in any decent info which is sad because i think they would be even more popular if they gave more info

    • Espiando

      Got this one bookmarked for after I move. I’ll have to look at their whole selection.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      MINE!!!
      mine, mine, mine.

    • Miss Tia

      Oh I like that!!! I’m partial to pirate type images—I fly a jolly rogers out front :)

  • FromPolandWithLove

    Hello :) everyone . I’ve just came back from work and I see a lot of great new stuff here in The Bunker. I’m under great impression of John Atacks article. So back to reading, I don’t have much time, so forgive me for not joining discussion. ( But I will be upvoting, ofcourse) Have a nice saturday evening/night at the finest Fringes of Teh Internets;)

  • baddog5623

    Next sign, FCW (Fuck ClearWater)

    • Snippy_X

      Klammed, Scammed and Wasted

  • AsthmaticDwarf

    Hey! What do you mean what am I doing here?!? We are exercising our religious freedom being right here! Right now!!

    • KJP in Portland

      Mace them all. It’s perfectly legal in Oregon to mace repeat harrassers at your door!!!

  • cdub

    Seems as if word spread quickly that Tony O. has a new gig. I’ve never knowingly seen OSA and their mercenaries post here til today. There may be other occasions I’m not aware of, though. I’m a’guessing they intend to take credit for his departure. Their joy may be short lived. My next guess is that rawstory.com will carry on the exposure of Scientology crimes.
    rawstory.com welcomes Tony:
    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/31/village-voice-editor-tony-ortega-to-helm-editorial-at-raw-story/

    • DeElizabethan

      What departure. Where did you read that? Besides, Raw Story has many more readers. I don’t think they have joy but more fear!

    • Noni Mause

      Is The Bunker being boarded up? I knew Tony had a new job, but I thought we’d carry on in some respect.

      • DeElizabethan

        Last I heard we will continue on. Don’t listen to him unless he shows some proof of Tony saying that.

    • Eclipse-girl

      I hope that more media will carry such stories in a timely fashion

    • Unex Skcus

      Hope that’s still on the Fringe of the Internet…

    • Guest

      They have been here before using different socks.

    • Robert Eckert

      They showed up before Tony got the RawStory job, invading in response to Jefferson Hawkins starting a new series reviewing Hubbardian ethics.

  • Interested

    Night. Must sleep. Still groggy. Luv ya all, even you SOS, you are so brain dead its actually funny (and sad because maybe if we could scratch the surface you could perhaps be a nice human)

    • i-Betty

      Sweet dreams, Interested – and, again, I’m so happy you got the all-clear today. Most excellent news :))

      [edit] Me, too, actually. I started to head to bed an hour ago but this damn sticky Bunker snared me back in. Sweet dreams all :) I’ll post the PSA before I go.

      • Interested

        Hope you slept we’ll…

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      He just wanted to help…and still thinks he IS helping mankind.
      Someday his eyes will open, just like most of the others already have.
      Night, I.

      • Interested

        Thanks. And you are right.

    • Ruby

      Oh!! I just got here and have not read all but see I-Betty comment here. I am SOO happy you got the all clear! Big sigh of relief and big smile. Sleep well. Xo

      • Interested

        Thanks luv.

    • Donut

      Yeah, SOS is a sweetie underneath the brainwash. Night, don’t let the body thetas bite:)

  • i-Betty

    WE BELIEVE THAT DISCONNECTION IS CRUEL AND WRONG

    Helpline:

    1-866-XSEAORG – The call is completely free and can be made from any public telephone

    If you’re a Scientologist reading this and you are having doubts about your religion, whether it be the doctrine, the incessant, relentless regging, or the leadership, but are afraid to leave because it’s all you’ve known, or you’re afraid of what to expect on the ‘outside’, please give the number on Glibby’s sign (below) a call; it’s totally free. You can speak anonymously and in strict confidence to somebody who can help you, and will receive non-judgmental moral support, as well as real advice for setting up your new life and getting back on your feet.

    I promise you, the outside world isn’t the enemy. As in all walks of life, some people are idiots, but most people are kind, hard working, honest, loving individuals, just living their lives. Many, many people have already left Scientology and are living happy, fulfilling, peaceful lives filled with family and friends – old and new – who love them. They, too, felt your fears as they began their break away from the church. Some took a leap of faith and discovered that the landing was soft, welcoming and forgiving. Some needed to take baby steps. But they all moved in one direction: towards the door.

    For them, every day is now an adventure and they are the architects of their own lives.

    You may be feeling:

    Sadness and loss over saying “goodbye” to those ideals in the group you thought you could admire, the fellow members you thought were your true friends, or the time and money spent following something which turned out to be false…

    Fear, that this may have been your last hope for happiness, success, enlightenment, or your eternity; that you are no longer protected by the powers of your leader and are vulnerable to evil; that you will make bad decisions for yourself without the group’s guidance, or that you will be punished for leaving…

    Loneliness, at the thought of leaving intensive relationships, and now needing to reconnect with family and friends who live in a manner that your religion criticized…

    Confusion, about what to believe, and how to make good decisions for yourself and your future…

    Guilt, possibly associated with having broken ties to loved ones, or for having recruited others into Scientology…

    Shame, when realizing you were involved in an organisation that maybe made you behave in a way that you’re not proud of…

    If Auditing and Training are still important to you they are both available outside the church, but without any of the hoops attached which you are currently expected to jump through…it is cheaper, and there will be no sec checking.

    It might help you to hear stories from others who were in your exact same situation. There is a great website called The Big List That Left Scientology. Here is the link: https://sites.google.com/site/biglistthatleftscientology/ Click on the alphabetical letters across the top to find people you may have known, and to read some inspirational stories.

    You might also like to look at the “Dear Scientologist” series of letters written by ex-Scientologists which are specifically tailored to be free of any reference to OT materials. They are beautifully written and might begin to help you make sense of your questions and confusion. Here is the link: http://www.lermanet.com/scientology/dear-scientologist2.htm

    Last, but by no means least, the Freeloader Debt is NOT legally enforceable – that means they can’t make you pay it.

    Call the Toll Free number. It might just be the first step to the rest of your life.

    And call your family. Please. They never stopped loving you and hoping that one day you would come back to them. Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays are near. Give them a call, send them your love. No guilt, no shame.

    We wish you so much luck and love.

    • SignsOfSuccess

      LOL.
      You forgot to write at the end: “And even if you are not a scientologist, that’s no matter, just call and we will get you out from any religion you may have entered. Share this also with atheists who you may know. We are here to help them too.

      • Donut

        Name another religion with freeloader debt.

        • SignsOfSuccess

          No, I’m just having fun, because I and several other friends actually called that phone number. We (at different occasions) pretended to be unhappy religious individuals like unhappy muslin, unhappy christian and so on. The answer was pretty much the same for all of us. The could still be able to help us to change our belief to some other believes, or something like that. LOL, it’was sooo funny.

          • EnthralledObserver

            So now you admit to wasting resources… and are acting gleeful about it. What sort of people are you? What disgusting morals and ethics they must teach to you…

          • Room 101

            So it was funny that an ex-cult hotline was willing to help people get out of any type of bad religious situation they were in? Gotcha.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              The point is that if you call that number and you say to be a parent worried about his son becoming an atheist, they will help you out to get your son back to whatever religion you may be engaged. I mean…LOL

            • EnthralledObserver

              THE POINT IS THEY OFFER HELP… YOU ONLY NEED ASK. (sheesh)

            • Donut

              Seriously, what’s your problem?

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              wanting to help a distressed human is definitely something to make fun of. did you ever stop to consider that by wasting their resources, you may have actually hurt someone who really needed help but couldn’t get through because of you and your scilon pals? simply disgusting.

            • jeff

              No, Scilons are incapable of independent thought.

            • Room 101

              You’re a special type of stupid, Forest.

            • Room 101

              All the best, buddy.

            • KJP in Portland

              Woafff! heading to a troopship near you!

            • Eclipse-girl

              what is your point about Atheism?

              You seem to pushing that particular button tonight?
              Atheists do not believe in any gods or goddesses. They usually come to that because there is a lack of evidence of any gods or goddesses.

              Scientologists (if they have become OT III) believe they are souls / thetans from 75 millions yrs ago and killed by the lord Xenu. They are told through the OT III Material that Lord Xenu trapped these souls / thetans in (Hawaiian) volcanoes that were then blown up by hydrogen bombs.

              There is so much more like these souls being captured and then imprinted with various religions (Judaism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam)

              Except there is absolutely no evidence so such stories.

              One thing atheists tend to use is the principle of Occam’s razor.

            • Guest

              Stop huffing spay paint. It’s messing with your brain. I’m worried about you, Please seek medical attention with an M.D. as soon as possible.

            • Jo

              You fucked up, can’t retract those previous comments. Didn’t you learn anything from Tommy Davies. You know you will be replaced.

          • Room 101

            Can Kathy True please give you permission to use any other acronym besides LOL? Pleeeeeasse?

          • Donut

            Seriously though, I’ve worked on helplines and if you fein distress or unhappiness, the right thing to do is to listen and not judge. Something tells me that you are not a happy camper, so what’s your problem?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              The problem is that on that “helpline” they do not only listen, they will judge you too and they will tell you right on your face “you have probably been brainwashed by someone!!”
              It doesn’t matter what religion you are in.

            • Donut

              I get that sympathy is low on the tone scale, not considered a noble emotion, but I thought you guys appreciated communication. Our point is about human dignity, where do you stand on that?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              I stand for “dignity” too. DE_PROGRAMMING (that’s what those kind of helplines do, by the way) it’s all about degrading a human being and totally spoil him from his dignity.
              And you, my boy, seem to support that.

            • Donut

              That presupposes programming in the first place. Does the hat fit?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Yes it’s based only on “assumptions”.
              Wake up!

            • Donut

              I care about you, do you understand? Good. Now why are you so upset about attacks on your religion?

            • EnthralledObserver

              Oh, that’s rich… *snicker*

            • Donut

              When you next hear the phrase “Pick up the cans, this is the session” remember my question…why are you upset by people who criticise your religion?

            • Guest

              I support you being de-programmed, Marco. I will pay for it personally, my special gift to you.

              Let me know when you’re free. ;)

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Scientology”s “software” is keeping me virus free. Don’t worry.

            • EnthralledObserver

              It missed one… Bunkeritis…

            • Donut

              Knee jerk reactive replies are hardly a sign of freedom.

            • Donut

              It’s nice talking with you but what’s your beef with people who criticise your religion?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              I don’t care if someone is criticizing my religion or some other religions.
              What I do care is when someone is ATTACKING my, or other’s religions!

            • Robert Eckert

              What distinction do you draw between legitimate criticism and “ATTACK”?

            • Donut

              Wow CAPITALS, now we are getting somewhere, I got a read on that.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Really? Do you care if some one is attacking my religion? what will you do to defend MY belief?
              Because my belief is VERY unpopular in many areas. In fact, I could never state my “beliefs” at my job for instance without derision and ridicule.

              So what would you do for me homey?

            • Espiando

              And considering that your religion wants me “eliminated, quietly and without sorrow”, but before that, wants to make my life miserable by taking away the chemicals that have provided me with the best mental health I’ve had since the age of 12, I’m going to attack, attack, attack, and never defend. It’s either me or Scientology, and it’s not going to be me, assclown. And if you’re damaged in any way by what I do, good.

            • J. Swift

              SoS, here is what LRH instructed you to do when anyone is ATTACKING your religion; do you intend to comply?Are we to expect you to take up arms and begin Fair Game?

              L. Ron Hubbard on Attacks on Scientology:

              (1) Spot who is attacking us.

              (2) Start investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using own professionals, not outside agencies.

              (3) Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them.

              (4) Start feeding lurid, blood, sex, crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press.

              Don’t ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough,
              rough on attackers all the way. You can get “reasonable about it” and
              lose. Sure we break no laws. Sure we have nothing to hide. BUT attackers
              are simply an anti-Scientology propaganda agency so far as we are
              concerned. They have proven they want no facts and will only lie no
              matter what they discover. So BANISH all ideas that any fair hearing is
              intended and start our attack with their first breath. Never wait. Never
              talk about us – only them. Use their blood, sex, crime to get
              headlines. Don’t use us. I speak from 15 years of experience in this.
              There has never yet been an attacker who was not reeking with crime. All
              we had to do was look for it and murder would come out.–Attacks on Scientology, “Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter,” 25 February 1966

            • Donut

              Thanks J.Swift for bringing insight in the shape of ecclesiastical scripture.

            • Kim O’Brien

              with like swords and stuff ?

            • chukicita

              can you explain how you view the difference between ‘criticize’ and ‘attack’ and when it’s appropriate to stifle freedom of speech according to written organizational policy?

            • Guest

              You know me. I worry!

              I meant de-program your brain, sweetie. I think it would do wonders for you! (I don’t say that to just any Sci troll, either.)

              I’ll also see to it that those body thetans are permanently exorcised, as well. They may be imaginary, but they are such a bother, don’t you agree?

              You also sound tired. Are you getting your recommended 8 hours of sleep at night?

            • Eclipse-girl

              De programming is not something that can be done with a phone call.

              What a phone call can do is tell a person that doubt is OK, and a natural human emotion.

              A phone call can help a person find a safe place where the person won’t be tracked down.

              Does the idea of safe houses for people who blow bother you?

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Churches are usually safe houses.
              I suggest you to google “de-progromming” and then tell me if those houses are so safe!

            • Eclipse-girl

              Most of us realize that most of De-programming is is getting the person in question to ask questions, to think about the way the cult treated them.

              If you think working 100 hr weeks, being paid pennies for each of hour of work, a child being told they are not good enough because they are homesick, coerced abortions, rapes being covered up, then fine. You accept that your religion breaks the law.

              We are trying to stop the criminal actions of scientology.

              The orgs and the missions of scientology are NOT safe houses.

            • Espiando

              You do know that you can’t walk into a Catholic church anymore and claim Sanctuary, right?

            • Eclipse-girl

              Have you ever called?

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            You just redefined pathetic and sad.
            I can’t even mock you anymore.
            It is just pity now.

            • aegerprimo

              BTN, I was going to say something, but you said it perfectly.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Now that is a rare thing………..snorts!

          • deathtoallpoliticians

            yeah, so funny, sos. they just want to help. funny, you don’t make fun of your volunteer ministers and they simply want to help, too. you have a very warped sense of humanity, sos.

          • Jo

            This is great Scientology PR, so you won’t object to me copying your post and sharing it with, well anyone.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            If one of your “friends” decided to leave Scientology right this minute……….would you still be that persons friend?
            Or would Scientology tell you to disconnect from your friend. And would you do it?
            No, you are so deluded you would say you would shun him for his own good. am I right?

            Of course you would you spineless jellyfish.

            • nottrue

              He would turn on his own MAMA

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Hey, It is LRH policy.

            • SignsOfSuccess

              Many Scientologists had changed their minds and changed their believes.They do not have any problems with Scientologists and vice versa.

            • Room 101

              What an utter lie. In all honesty, you’re a lying piece of shit who is spewing the same old BS your homies at OSA make up. Disconnection is real. Parents are declared for not disconnecting from their children if they’re declared and vice versa. Spouses are forced to divorce if one begins to disagree with the church. You’re a complete fucking liar. Fuck you. You work for OSA and you know at the end of the day this whole ploy you’re putting on is a fucking sham.

              By the way, you spineless cur, all of your comments on this blog do nothing but contribute to the SEO value and higher rankings for this blog. So keep your dumbshit LOLs coming and watch the stats rise.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

            • L. C. Spencer

              Nah, he IS always in denial. (And it’s always obvious)

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        hey sos, your family misses you. you should call them and let them know that you are all right. that is, of course, if you can get away from your maa to do so. i, for the life of me, cannot think of another religion that screens your mail, listens in on your conversations, tells you what to say to your family, demands that you pay a freeloaders debt for simply leaving…how in the world do you rationalize these personal intrusions?

      • Eclipse-girl

        The bunker is concerned with the criminal aspects of scientology. I doubt that members would say any religion is innocent.

        But scientology has disconnection, covers up the sexual abuse of young children ( boys and girls) at FLAG, allows for human trafficking, harasses, frames journalists for crimes. ant infiltrates various governments.

        You have never responded to those allegations

      • EnthralledObserver

        Just call it honey… it will be the best thing you’ve ever done… I promise! :)

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Do you know what you aren’t yet?
        Just a question?

        • SignsOfSuccess

          Yes, I’m not asleep. Time for me to lie my body on the bed.
          Night to everyone.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            What…………wait………..what is the second part to the statement……….dont go to bed NOW……..we are about to rid you of that last body thetan SOS……

          • Guest

            Good night, Eugene. Sleep well!

          • nottrue

            Sleep tight dont let the thetans bite

          • TXCowgirl

            Would that be your meat body?

          • TXCowgirl

            Do your thetans sleep when you sleep?

          • Guest

            Was it something I said?

            ;)

          • Jo

            Good night Mousetti.

          • KJP in Portland

            May the fleas of a thousand camels visit you tonight…

      • Ruby

        I’m glad you are reading what she wrote. :)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I wish he would have absorbed it.

          • Ruby

            It may not be absorbed now, but SOS will remember it. I recall one time when a public person I was supervising said she thought I worked slave hours. Of course at the time I had to deny it to her, but…it stuck with me. It was true.

      • KJP in Portland

        Face like a scrotum…you reject.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Oh… darn… can someone please forward my apologies? I can’t make these events, they didn’t give me enough notice and I have confirmed my attendance at my son’s rugby finals, hubby work Christmas party and our Christmas plans clash with that new-year thingy.
    (I go to bed early for once, and you spring a really good one on us… typical)

    • Eclipse-girl

      Coming for OZ? I think most of bunkerites are very forgiving.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I sincerely tried… ;)

        • Eclipse-girl

          Australia is a great place to visit and a better place to live.

          Some day, Perth and Darwin , and the Kimberly coast are on the bucket list.

          • EnthralledObserver

            A few of many great places to see here… I hope you get to fulfil that list someday. :)

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              eo, i hope that you and your family are safe from the fires currently ravaging across australia…please be safe.

            • Eclipse-girl

              DTAP, is correct, the blue mountains seem to have serious fires every 3 – 5 yrs.

              If you are in Sydney, take care from the ash fall out.

            • EnthralledObserver

              See answer to deathtoallpoliticians… :)

            • EnthralledObserver

              I’m in Queensland – I’m fine regarding fires – but it is bad for them down there. We will have our fair share of flood risk later… around January… but precisely where I am it’s more of an inconvenience (roads blocked, so no milk, bread, etc) than a risk of harm.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I love your country. Mr. E and I are not quite wealthy enough to purchase our way into OZ (or NZ ) I would move in a heart beat if I didnt have the family here in the states.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Bascically… my snark just highlights that this is normally a VERY busy time of year, and how much gall or stupidity do these people possess to give such short notice and expect their members to just drop other plans or have just kept this whole time free waiting to see what dates these twits would arrive at. MORONS!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        It is not gall. It is what is for the greater good across all dynamics……..especially when Dave needs a new wet suit,… or ducati.

        • EnthralledObserver

          lol… I stand corrected. ;) (I do get ‘gall’ and ‘entitlement’ mixed up)

    • DeElizabethan

      It’s Ok EO. WE all can’t be there just like I’m sure many of the members will have previous important plans and can’t change them. In fact hey, they could use it a an excuse not to come, cause they really don’t want to be heavily reged. dig? Hoping!
      Have a great time with your family, keep in touch via Bunker.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Naturally… :) (As if I can go more than a day at most without at least peeking at the Bunker :p )

  • Guest

    Marco. Or should I say “Eugene”? Tsk..Tsk..Using those different socks to make it appear that you are different people, again isn’t your strong suit.

    You’ve been sloppy.

    Do you want to know where you made your mistakes?

    XO

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Oh do tell????
      Enquiring minds wanna know……………!!!!

      • EnthralledObserver

        I second that request…

        • DeElizabethan

          I’m in. Let’s hear someone count the ways. But he’s probably blown.

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        I third that !

        • GlibWog

          4th

      • Guest

        I want to see if he can guess, correctly.;)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ok, we can compare notes later………..
          Yee Haw!!!

          • Guest

            He left rather abruptly. Hmmnnn…….he didn’t even venture a guess. I wonder why?

            ;)

            • GlibWog

              Ya Ain’t gonna tell yur buddies Guest?

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Yeah, Guest– c’mon! Give! Give!

            • GlibWog

              Hahhaha I thought I was Nosey.. Glad to be with you Dwarf!

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Guest is drawing this out …

              A- n – t – c – i – p – a – t – i – o -n by Carly Simon
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibSelIFBR8s

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              she has her reasons…………………..;-)

            • Guest

              Sorry, my friend, I am enjoying the fact that he is poring over his past posts, trying to word clear all of the verbs he’s used in the past week.

              I hope he posts a photo of the clay model he makes on this subject! I would be honored to be the source of inspiration!

              He was the first troll I ever tangoed with at Tony’s V.V. blog. (Sigh…) A girl never forgets her first tango with a troll!

              Goodnight! I have a hubby who’s opening up some vino and a Cary Grant movie awaiting.

              :)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Lovely, Ciao ~

            • GlibWog

              OHHHH Carly.. Love her! Thanks Dwarf! Guest is sneaky that way..

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              She is ! It’s a successful technique: if you can engender anticipation on a message platform like this one, well, that does take talent, to do that. Now you track down MK about those shins, Glibby, so you can know what’s what on what’s goin’ on for yo’ shins :-)

            • Guest

              .

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              You mean, like uhm his like his verbiage?

            • GlibWog

              OUI

    • Espiando

      The first mistake was having Eugene white-knight Marco a few days ago. That’s when I was about 80% sure they were the same. I’d like to hear the rest.

    • Jo

      Keyser soze? Your right he’s been sloppy, also I think he posts as Mousetti. Could be wrong, been wrong more times than I’ve been right. That prob doesn’t make sense.

  • MO Mom

    Guess the clams won’t be able to celebrate Thanksgiving, not that they have a lot to be thankful for. And they will have a lot less after their Florida road trip.

    • SandiCorrena

      I wonder if Kirstie will go because she’s already been ironing all her holidays linens, sheets, napkins, tablecloths, tea towels, etc. for company (per herself on twitter)….just say No I Won’t Go Kirstie-I’ll send more spray starch!!!

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        But, SC, do not Krusty have a house in Clearwater area? She be havin’ her compney over thar at that house.

        • SandiCorrena

          is she gonna borrow JT’s plane to fly over all that linen?

          • Miss Tia

            probably….he’ll fly her and her linen there…..

        • DeElizabethan

          Few friends, many handlers.

          • SandiCorrena

            You hit that nail on the head I think; I worry about her-she spends soooo much time chatting with twitter followers which seems like it’s better than being handled and/or better than being alone….

            • TXCowgirl

              I’ve always assumed Krusty had a SO servant do her postings for her.

            • SandiCorrena

              Oh I think they do all the “organic liaison” stuff but I think the rest of the content is pretty much her; I’m no expert though.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            and a whole lot of stinky monkey/lemur poop

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          As Marc calls it….her Monkey house,
          snicker

          • GlibWog

            LEMURS!

        • GlibWog

          Wit her Lemurrrrrrrrrrs

        • palmas74

          She has a house in Clw, she asked some public scientologists carpenters to make a dance floor in her house, this happened like 8 or 9 months ago.

          • Robert Eckert

            Dancing with the Lemurs?

            • palmas74

              hahahha I do not know, yes maybe hahaha you made me laugh

    • DodoTheLaser

      Big Thetans don’t need Thanksgiving.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Because they are already turkeys?

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          Lulz !!!

        • GlibWog

          I refuse to laugh..it was just too easy..( OK I’m laughing Now..)

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            My hubby misses you.
            He adored you!
            And he didn’t hate your boobs either………..just sayin.

            • GlibWog

              Tell him he has fabulous taste in women Bury..

              Tell him next time I’ll wear a Bra..

              ( Oh tell him I miss him too..) My Limo buddy..

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Oh the lulz.

  • http://www.8womendream.com/ Catherine

    As a never-in, I really don’t like to interrupt your comment flow, or to in any way go off topic, but I’m just not quite sure when I should speak up (or is it write up?) when I have a thought on this for you. But I’ve been reading the comments about the concerns over Tony’s new gig and this site and I am wondering why some of you can’t write articles for this site. I have a fairly successful blog/website where 7 other women write with me and it is wonderful! I know this is Tony’s place, but quite often, I am scrolling through the comments to read YOUR stories and thoughts on any given topic. Frankly, so many of you fascinate me with your stories — and your writing skills could hold their own on any publication. I just wonder if Tony would give any thought to each of you expanding on some of your amazing insights and stories from being in as actual posts as guest contributors — expanding on your comment stories (I’d imagine they’d be easy for you to find in Disqus). Running a blog is A LOT of work. I discovered this many years ago and having others contribute to a site frees you up to do so much more for the site itself. I imagine Tony will be buried at the new job in the beginning. Plus, being someone well-versed in Internet search, the more stories all of you can share across many different website platforms will help your cause immensely. I sincerely apologize if this is off topic, but I wasn’t really sure where to place this suggestion. I was thinking of all of you late last night. I just wish all of you continued successes in your new lives – “Red”

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Well this is the place to put it. And right the fuck on.
      A bunch of us have different things we can offer. It is just making the pieces fit.
      Thank you for a nice, positive idea.

      and off topic? Here? seriously?
      I thought that was a requirement?

    • GlibWog

      I volunteered to take over if Tony needed a day off ( before his announcement) when I met him in Clearwater..

      I think he’s still laughing.

      You are sweet Catherine. Welcome..

      • GlibWog

        ( Jeeze you guys 4 UPVOTES..) It wasn’t THAT funny…

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          maybe not to YOU!

          • GlibWog

            bawwwwwwwwwwwwhahahhahahahah You even heard him Laugh..

            • DodoTheLaser

              LOL! Imagine Tony making announcement – “We decided to take a day off or two and play with the cats. Hence, we delegated our duties to GlibWog, DodoTheLaser and BuryTheNuts. Have a nice day all!”

              That should work. :)

            • WhereIsSHE

              It would work for me, Dodo! Heck.. I might even PAY for that day!!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Sissy! missed you!!!! Weeeeeeeeeeee

            • WhereIsSHE

              Right back at you!! Was thinking of you a TON while you were otherwise occupied!!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              We need a girls night (weekend). even if we have to fly into it and spend the weekend in, lets say. ….Columbus Ohio or whatever. (Or Texas,,,whatever ;-)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Uhm… can can can this mid-thirties 5′ 5″ chick join the fracas? the pahtay?!?

              In a flash! Miss Mash!!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              ;-)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              But Of course missy!
              Muah!

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              :-)

            • http://www.8womendream.com/ Catherine

              LOL

            • GlibWog

              hahahhahahhahaha OMG can you imagine.. OK let me work on my stories.. ( tee hee)

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        that is awesome, gw. lord knows mr. ortega could use the break. however, just like my father, i bet mr. ortega would not know what to do with himself if he is not constantly involved in the grind.

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      I have a forecast, of how I think the Bunker is going to *roll-on, *roll-on, *rollin’ on the Interwebz. I think it’s a natural progression that is going to occur.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yep, The Bunker is a force of nature.

        • AsthmaticDwarf

          yes, doDoTL – but I mean I have like when you see the credits of a production (film, tv, or album) or “the mast” of a newspaper, I have a specific outcome in mind, that I’m rather certain shall come to pass.

          • GlibWog

            Well.. Inquiring Minds and all.. Do Tell?

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              You know, I’d love to. And it is a natural. But I wouldn’t want to make a prediction that would rile anyone’s feelings. Because however it goes, as whowazithatsaid, You cain’t please all the people all the time.

              But- I am willing to put my prediction – which is 99% positively *going to happen* into a sealed, Titanium container and bury it in the Gobi desert. And when the announcement is made, I will reveal its contents!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Does that mean Bengals will be part of the SuperBowl?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Uh, NO!
              sorry dodo.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Hahahahha! I didn’t think so. Good thing I don’t care.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              ;-)

            • GlibWog

              It’s a deal Lucille !

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            I don’t know you well………but you have impressed me so far………so I am listening….;-)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              I am willing to put my prediction – which is 99% positively *going to
              happen* into a sealed, Titanium container and bury it in the Gobi
              desert. And when the announcement is made, I will reveal its contents!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I thought you were a six foot 3 dude………..?

              Suddenly I am seeing a vision of a 5.5″ mid thirties chick in my mind……….hmmmmmmmmmmmm

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Oh, man — too funny!
              No really, I realized after I wrote that, that there are so many feelings involved and there are many scenarios that may come to pass. And Robert raised point above thread (I think) that hadn’t factored into my projection.
              So- I’m going to weenie out of this …

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              ;-)
              Oh yeah, you are six five…I see that now ;-)

            • DodoTheLaser

              No hard feelings. But sharing predictions is ok and fun.
              All it takes is a sufficient disclaimer at the end.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              But, just the overarching: Tony O will become “Executive Editor,” as in filmed entertainment, one will see Executive Producer as a main credit — and the vast majority of audience, like 99%, don’t have a clue what that really means.

              Anyway, Tony O will be Executive Editor – it will remain a Disqus-based system – and the rest of the editorial ‘certainty’ that I ‘see’ well, I just can’t ‘share’ that, considering all equilibrium-ness.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Will Tony join the Elders of The Internet?

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Executive Editor is no joke. So- DodoTL, Not!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              equilbriumn-ness?

              OK, You must be as drunk as i am AD?
              And we have to keep fucking DickSucks?
              shit!!!

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Yes- we will remain Disqus-based. For all it’s faults, this is the best game in town for now. And software will improve, exponentially, as all else has in computers since “they” put the ‘personal’ in computers !

            • KJP in Portland

              I wish for at least the board to continue, even if there is no ‘daily’ articale. This is a watering hole, a gathering place, a lifestyle and common-cause for many of us. I think the good posters, the longtime posters, and our excellent selection of longtime ‘ins’ would be great resources to start and go on with a topic (or 4) of the day.

              I’m going to make my second donation tonight. This will be my ‘monthly’ tithe…

            • jeff

              Sorry, KJP, the donation button is no longer there

    • DodoTheLaser

      Thank you for visiting The Bunker!

      Also, what BTN said. :)

    • Robert Eckert

      He recruited Claire Headley to write a regular feature, then Jon Atack also. When Jeff Hawkins started, I thought it was as a replacement for Claire but fortunately it was, rather, in addition. He might well want to add one or two more regular contributors, perhaps JSwift and/or JohnP or others.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Clearly, unlike COB RTC, Tony can delegate.

        • Missionary Kid

          {{I protest!!! COB does delegate!!}} – to sock puppets.

          • DodoTheLaser

            My bad. :) I stay corrected.

            • Missionary Kid

              Snickersnort!

      • http://www.8womendream.com/ Catherine

        Yes, exactly.

      • http://www.8womendream.com/ Catherine

        I remember and I love those even though many of your stories break my heart. the ones with families separated kill me most, as a part Irish woman we’d kill for our family ;-) But, I cannot fathom someone separating me from my son because we don’t agree on something (isn’t this all teenagers in general?). My son loves science and is an agnostic, as I am a recovering Catholic (lol). He loves to argue religion and I could not imagine him disconnecting from me because we have a differing of opinion on this subject. And as a “mom” to so many of my son’s friends regardless of what was happening in their family situations, they often crashed at our place and the cruelty of dividing someone from their family really pisses me off. Raising kids should take many loving people who support the single mom or dad, or a family going through a rough time — not tear them apart. I could go on and on because this really gets me going and it’s the thing that makes me wish I could help every single one of you. Ok. I need a sip of wine now.

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          here’s to you, catherine! *clink* of the wine glasses. drink up. you clearly deserve it.

        • Kim O’Brien

          as a half irish woman ..i feel you sista …mess with the family and just see what happens. my other half is sicilian ….;)

        • Robert Eckert

          I also find the family disconnection stories the most infuriating and breathtaking. This is the thread where Tony opened up the floor to them:

          http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/17/scientology-claims-no-forced-disconnection-so-tell-us-about-yours/

      • TXCowgirl

        So, perhaps the Bunker would become the place for stories and explanations of $cio thought/practices/bridge climbing and the investigative news bombs would move to Tony’s RawStory purview.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Unless The Bunker will be merged with The Raw Story.

          Hoping it’s possible and will happen.

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            That won’t happen. Raw story can’t have such an ‘unobjective’ forum in its stable. Not Tony, but his commenters. All the Bunkerados (Bunkerites, Bunkeroos).

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Yeah, raw story is another animal. And great for Tony. But I think he TOOk the Raw story gig, based on the fact that he was going to see the Scion demise thru.

              Just my opinion, ;-)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Yes- I think that’s spot-on. He will without question be on the Scilon story till demise comes. I don’t think he’ll write about it, though, every day, as he is now, He can’t – he’s heading up Raw Story.

              But The Underground Bunker is a ‘brand’ of its own. And it’s natural that he keep a successful brand going, which he could do, as Executive Editor. Then, with his already-in-place contributors, which Robert E. noted to Catherine – and there will be others, too, Tony O can have the Bunker producing daily stories, and comments, just as now. Only the columnists won’t be Tony. They’ll be the ones he directs into a pattern of presentation, on a daily basis, as it’s running now.

            • KJP in Portland

              I saw his job acceptance story and felt the same way you just mentioned, Bury. I think he will still see this whole damned house of cards through. I’ll sure as hell be here watching and trying to help wherever I can.

            • OrangySky

              Mine too. I can’t imagine Tony abandoning the story of his life just when the big finale is nigh.

            • DodoTheLaser

              This is not a forum, it’s a commenting community, people who generate traffic.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Okay, dtl, commenting community. Completely unobjective, married to a single issue. It brings very little to Raw Story, and it’s slant is wildly one-sided. RawS doesn’t need the Bunker, And it won’t go to their stable. Period. (imo)

            • DodoTheLaser

              I see your point about a “single issue”. And you are most likely right. Time will tell.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              The Underground Bunker, is a niche market monster! You see, for Raw Story it’s not even a negligible brand to have, that’s why they won’t bring it in; but the Underground Bunker is a niche market branded star!!

              It has *huge* credibility across the Interwebz. It has many, many contributing editors and columnists (okay, okay unofficially, but they *are* that, just not in name only). It is a true mult-media content distributor: videos, columns, comments, live blogging, entertaining shoops galore…

              The products that the Bunker brand could get into a serious. And could generate more than the buzz that they are generating now. This niche market that Tony O opened up, has a loyal, thriving audience. And Tony O and Scott P will, I can only imagine, make something out of that. It should be a grand future !

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      excellent idea, catherine! i am in the middle of writing a legal article on the internal revenue issues associated with inurement relative to cob’s pay and lifestyle. i hope to have it to mr. ortega within the next few days.

    • Sarah James

      What asshat would down vote this? Krustie are you visiting?

      • SandiCorrena

        prob some little troll who thought if Tony was too busy to report on Scientology they could get some lib time just realized that there is NO SHORTAGE of CO$ truth tellers and (GASP) what if they know even worse secrets than Tony……..bahahahahahahahaha!

      • KJP in Portland

        Sarah, it’s probably molded cabbage visiting!

    • palmas74

      I thought she was a troll from the beginning ??? maybe???

      • Robert Eckert

        And who are you?

        • palmas74

          I am ex scientologist; I was in for 30 years, been out for 9 years.
          english is not my language, I live here in USA.
          I am reading Tony O, Mike R, Marty R, helpful advice, scn cult, ot8grrrrr every day and sometimes I make few short comments because my limitations with english language.

          • Robert Eckert

            OK, welcome to the board. It just seems weird for someone to join here and immediately attack someone, you know? We have had a lot of that lately.

            • palmas74

              Thanks Robert, sorry if that felt like an attack.

            • Robert Eckert

              It’s OK. There has been a lot of suspicion lately.

            • TXCowgirl

              Like myself, the majority of new posters introduce themselves first and then comment when finally emerging from the lurker’s closet (Tom, John and R. Kelly say hello). Therefore it sounds abrupt when gentile practices are overlooked. Considering ELS, I first give the benefit of the doubt. Having said that, RE, you are right, there has been subterfuge around here lately.

            • palmas74

              Hi TxCowgirl, as I said I did post here before, but just 1 or 2 times and just short comments.
              What is ELS?
              And I apologies for my bad manners for no introduce myself before, I am trying to write in english, as many times I want to comment but I felt handicap for language barriers, but I am getting better.

            • TXCowgirl

              Past comments noted. ELS = English as a second language. Perhaps English is your 2nd, 3rd, or 4th language. Are you comfortable enough to share your native language?

            • palmas74

              english is my 2nd language

            • jeff

              It’s actually ESL.

            • TXCowgirl

              Ack!!! Of course, I stand corrected.

            • KJP in Portland

              Subterfuge galore…in bogusly huge amounts. I saw a large increase 2 weeks ago, or has it been 3? All these new ID’s (is this what Robert and others call sock-puppets?).

            • palmas74

              KJP you make laugh, if you are going to treat everybody like a troll, then they would not like to comment here, I am new here and I have things to say, please let me communicate.

            • Robert Eckert

              It did not help that you accused Catherine of being a troll, for no particular reason we can see, when we do not know you.

            • Robert Eckert

              “Sock puppet” is when multiple ID’s are used by the same person. For example, I thought Eugene K was different from SignsOfSuccess but some evidence has been cited tonight that they are the same.

            • DeElizabethan

              You know i was aching for some experience and good practice and got that with Eugene on days old thread. I wanted to tell him that but I had ended the convo. Neat to find out this stufff.

            • Anonymous

              I believe that at a minimum, more than one person operates the name Eugene K, which is slightly different than Eugene K and SOS are the same person (which may also be true.)

              The writing styles, impromptu reactions and tone (and no, I don’t mean “tone level”) of the “voice” used by Eugene K are quite different over the course of several posts.

              In any case, the operators of both identities follow the script of how to troll and distract to a tee. They also seem to vanish as soon as XENU and / or BT’s are mentioned in a thread.

            • Robert Eckert

              I have not tried that. It is likely, however, that we have heard the last of “Eugene”.

            • Anonymous

              Robert Eckert,

              I wasn’t suggesting it as a tactic, but more asking about your own observations, which might add evidence to the troll theory.

              I am more than fine with Scientologists commenting and counter-commenting here and elsewhere. It adds to the discussion and exposes all viewpoints to sunshine.

            • TXCowgirl

              I’m starting to think I’ve been hoodwinked by comments below.

            • TXCowgirl

              I’m no longer buying it.

            • palmas74

              as you said you have to give the benefit of the doubt, I can not tell you much about me, I have family and friends still in, I started in Scn when I was 15 years old that was 39 years ago, I did OTV 3 times like the OTV rundowns , and the new OTV bulletines etc, etc.and I did OTVII and then GAT OTVII, in 2004 I was done for good!!!.

            • noseinabk

              Palmas Brazil?

            • palmas74

              Las Palmas Spain

            • noseinabk

              Just keep posting and reading. The more you read the better you will get and the more you write the better we will get at being understanding of the language barrier.

            • palmas74

              Yes I will, thanks.

            • DeElizabethan

              Geez, finally done, huh? If you went through all that, you’ve needed these years to de-stimulate. I feel for you. You are making some new friends I hope and family, well, that’s something to keep you busy.

            • palmas74

              Thanks Yes I am bus, but I can read here and there everyday, my kids are fine and I have grandkids that are my treasure.

            • DeElizabethan

              Oh so happy for that. Plus, if your hubby is at your side, it is Most important.

            • palmas74

              Yes he is on my side; He is not Scn thanks good!!!!! So I do not have to hear:
              “You need to go to course , you have overts, you are natter, we need to go graduation, we need to donate more, you have mwhs, the kid is low tone, the kid is out ethics, the kid needs to go to see the maa, do not look the internet, I wrote did a KR on you” hahahaha
              I am freeeee

            • DeElizabethan

              Bravo Bella! With that good news I’m off to bed and you have a good nite too!

            • TXCowgirl

              Thank you. I apologize for my suspicious nature and welcome.

            • palmas74

              You are welcome.

            • palmas74

              accepted and thanks

          • DeElizabethan

            Welcome and nice to see you here .Just keep reading. Were you on staff, in the SO or public?

            • palmas74

              thanks I am little shy, I am always reading here, I was staff long long time ago in my country, after 5 years in staff I was public, last I was on OTVII, did not finish.

            • DeElizabethan

              Thanks. My ex over 30 years ago did 7 for several years. Finally he decided after getting out that he was Really Finished, and finished with All of it too. I was always public but had friends on staff. I’m happy you found the Bunker. I know how much Tony O and these great people helped me find the truth and freedom and sure you will do just fine. One thing here is you can say whatever you think and you can become strong.

            • palmas74

              thanks, sometimes I ask my husband to write the comment for me, but he says to me; you write it, just write it, so I am starting to write my comments. And I really feel like my english is very bad, but I hope all of you can read it. I love this blog

            • DeElizabethan

              You are doing fine, coming over very clear. Just keep practicing. Your hubby is right! Give him a hug every day!

            • palmas74

              thanks

            • Once_Born

              I can understand your English, which means that it is not “very bad”.
              Besides, it’s what you say that matters, not how you say it.
              Welcome!

            • OrangySky

              Palmas, your English could not possibly be as bad as the Scientologists still in who write the bulletins and email solicitations!!

            • palmas74

              Hi OS thanks

            • palmas74

              Hi OSky thanks, I can read english better that writing it, but I will keep trying.

            • KJP in Portland

              (((hugs))) to Dee! I wuvz ya!

            • DeElizabethan

              Hey I caught the WUVZ, just getting ready to make it a nite.

              Now that I got my hug here’s back to you (((HUG)))

        • KJP in Portland

          Exactly Robert. Look at my reply just above…

    • palmas74

      I think catherine is a troll

      • DodoTheLaser

        Click on her avy, look at her previous posts and her blog.

        Doesn’t look like troll to me.

        • palmas74

          you can be right, thanks

      • KJP in Portland

        palmas…palmas…palmas…with only 15 posts here, please detail to all of us how you could possibly discern a troll on this board of Tony’s. Are YOU one?

        • palmas74

          Hello KJP I am not a troll ; I been reading VV and Tony O for many years now, i been reading internet since 2001, and I left scn in 2004. I have friends from my country that also read TO and MR, MR and OT8grrr for several years but they do not comment because they do not speak english very well, and they call me to ask me what is the today TO post, I am kind of the translator, and please do not start been paranoiac??? or acting like miscavige, I can not say more about me.

          • DeElizabethan

            That is great and very good of you to translate to your friends. Keep up the excellent work.

    • media_lush

      you don’t want to dilute the brand!

      [although I understand where you’re coming from]

    • KJP in Portland

      I guess you hadn’t read any of my postings, lol!

  • Kim O’Brien

    Does this mean that in 2 weeks i get to see Tom Cruise , John Travolta and other celebs, jump from the rooftop thinking they can fly only to crash to the ground ? Cause i would pay money to see that . Like ..i might even sell my house

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      maybe not. but if you would like to watch them crash into the sidewalk outside of the tent…i have a spare mask to watch it all thru?

      Edit: bring vodka. amen.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        it is going to be quite the show, no doubt. i simply can’t wait! *grinding hands back and forth while giving a long, maniacal laugh*

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          hell yah…
          I would say we should all meet somewhere………..but it isn’t like we cant find each other….snicker

    • Miss Tia

      Can you imagine how annoyed the big donaters to the SP building must be?? No big ribbon over the top ceremony for the building out front, instead, hiding in tents!!! I wonder if the sense of anti-climatic will seep in before or after the event? All those years, all the millions, to sit in A TENT on short notice! I’d be pretty ticked.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Pretty ticked over a petty trick?

        • Miss Tia

          Ooooo I like that turn of phrase! :)

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yeah! And bunch of wogs and SPs roaming the streets. Such bullshit!

        • Miss Tia

          Yeah, that would probably irritate people too—why/how couldn’t that be controlled? Who planned this? Etc etc….yet another seed of doubt to be planted. That’s what happens when you do things short notice. I’m GLAD it’s being done short notice like this as things will be sloppy, overlooked—such as the wogs & SPs being able to roam the streets!!! (Though I do sincerely fear for anyone who might incur DM’s physical wrath).

      • AsthmaticDwarf

        You know, MissT — in any other organization, you’d be spot on. But remember, this is The Cult of Scientology — and everything is backwards/upside down Orwell Newspeak. So– they are going to be exuding ECSTASY. They will be coming out of Supah Powah session, reporting — BANG ! zzzzZZZOOOM! The Wins are Off the Charts !

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          And all 100% fake.

        • palmas74

          hahaha exuding ecstasy and 100 fake

        • Miss Tia

          Well that is true; but I think this might actually plant some seeds of doubt in people. Maybe not when they’re there, but when they get home (during say the day or two before the next round of regging starts for whatever DM is gonna try to bilk millions for).

          DM needs to be sent BANG! zzzZZOOOM! to the moon!!!

          • AsthmaticDwarf

            And – Ay! There’s the rub!!!.

            Because as Dan Koon pointed out so perfectly, the freakin’ super power shite was made up by Hubbturd for the jailed RPF’ers, who Hubblard saw were becoming wrecks.

            So he made up that shite to try and help bring the prisoners back to some kind of state of ‘okay’, so they could get back to work, after they got out of jail RPF.

            And Dan says it’s going to be a *huge* disappointment to clams, because the shite stinks, so to speak. As it’s written by Hubbflub.

            Now- the wrinkle is this: RindersBlog reported during the last couple months that Dave was claiming through spokes-puppets that Dear Leader (hisself) is furiously writing 50 programs and can’t make graduation last night yada yada. Point I’m making is, What if The Mouseking Midget made up new things for Super Power? Would the clams accept that?

            Oh my …

            • Missionary Kid

              Mouseking Midget is another new nickname for DM.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Bob, is the inventor of Mouseking.
              I think I just attached Midget. I love the way Bob writes about the Mouseking.

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s real progress on the part of Bob. I think he had the feelings, but was reluctant to express them when I first came here. He’s definitely found his voice.

              I disagree with him, but I definitely have come to like him.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              oh yeah, Bob has some serious Mouseking knowledge — I just hope he writes more of it in future.

            • Missionary Kid

              Amen.

            • KJP in Portland

              Damned Retard

              The best elevator shoes money can buy…

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m putting, “He has the best elevator shoes money can buy.” Under things said about DM at http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/12/tomkat-project-in-los-angeles-heres-your-chance-to-help-the-show-get-to-tinseltown/

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Of course they would….at least for the short term…………..

            • DodoTheLaser

              Re: “..made up new things for Super Power?”

              Well sure, like the big ass building with statues and NASA wanna be equipment in it.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              plus maybe RindersBlog was saying that maybe the 50 programs Dave is working on some may be for supah powah program. Then, there’s a big *rub* !

            • DodoTheLaser

              The “50 programs Dave is working on” is nothing but satire to me, even though it was actually announced to scientologists.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Okay, so — they aren’t satire to clam members! That you know.

            • Robert Eckert

              The thing is, Dave have zero creative ability, and could not write even dreckulent pseudo-Hubbardness to save his life.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Yeah- that’s the problem (for him.) He’s cunning and shrewd. And clever. But he is a hack intellectually.

            • Miss Tia

              a super power oily table rub? ;)

            • TXCowgirl

              People have been stuck “training” at the Ft. Haunted House for weeks and weeks. Maybe because little Mr. I’m-All-That Miscavige keeps writing and re-writing GAG2 and The SP Program. Oh my goodness,”The SP Program”! I just tickled myself! :-)

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Good!!! The Supah Powah Supressive Person Program .
              You an SP on SP !

            • TXCowgirl

              Tee-hee-hee

            • Espiando

              Here’s the thing: we know what Super Power is supposed to consist of, thanks to Dan Koon’s magnificent memory and various other leaks, including Tony’s blueprints and artist’s renderings. The clams don’t, especially the whales. The Toxic Midget can put anything out in front of them and call it Super Power and say that Hubtard wrote it, and they’ll believe it. Who’s going to say otherwise? The only whales that we know of that were put through it were the Feshbachs, and it was never detailed exactly what they received.

              In other words, we SPs and DBs know that he’s squirreling the Tech, but the people to whom squirreling the Tech is important don’t know.

              I wonder if any of those “fifty programs” might be forming the basis of OTIX and OTX.

            • DodoTheLaser

              There are many veteran SO members, in and out, who did SuperPower as a “pilot”.

              Now, OTIX and X news would be an instant hit.

            • Espiando

              Yeah, but the SO who are still in who’ve tried it won’t say a thing, and the ones who are out are SPs, and their entheta won’t be listened to by the Kool-Aid Drinkers.

              He’s now out of things to pull out of the Hubbard Trash Bin. That’s why I’m thinking he’s now setting things up for OTIX and OTX with these “fifty programs”. That’s his backup plan in case Stupid Power tanks.

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Fuuuuuck… can you imagine what the demented deranged psychopath would put together of OT9 and OT10. What if the clams loved it and ate it up?

            • AsthmaticDwarf

              Dude- this is going to be interesting. The leak about the 50 programs is huge. Where are those programs going to be placed? One would only think that a couple *might* be for Supah Powah, cuz as Dan ‘splained, that shite sucks. For whales and other people. So, this could be a wild ride!

            • Miss Tia

              OTIX and OTX might be the next thing to try to sell them…..

            • Miss Tia

              Well he could always claim they were ‘lost’ LRH writings, couldn’t he?

        • TXCowgirl

          The power of suggestion on a willing mind and the cheering crowd effect.

          • Miss Tia

            With hired actors!

      • Kim O’Brien

        i would love to be a thetan on the wall at this event ;)

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Fly to Orlando and call me…You got a bunk anytime.

          • Kim O’Brien

            i’m gonna have to bring pot …;)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Please do. really!

          • TXCowgirl

            How many bunks to a room and how high are the stacked?

        • Miss Tia

          Oh me too!!!

      • KJP in Portland

        No Tia (((hugs)))…I hope they see the REAL numbers of donations versus what the cherch actually constructed the building for (my guess: 20-25 million). Yet they regged 140 million for it? Wowza…FRAUD.

  • TXCowgirl

    Will the Garcia’s lawsuit be affected by the (finally) opening of the supa’ powerz building?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      He he…………..I think (my opinion only)
      That remains to be seen.

    • DodoTheLaser

      I guess tt depends on whether or not they will keep the giant cross on top, that Garcia paid for in full.
      (They regged number of other people to pay “for the cross” too).

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      i do not think so. i base this on the fact that the co$ collected far more for the soopa powerz building than was needed. the garcias are alleging fraud, ie that the co$ kept the soopa powerz building closed to continue collecting excess donations. the fact that the soopa powerz building is now open does not alter the alleged fraud nor the fact that the co$ kept pushing and collecting donations for the building even though they had enough. of course, i’ve been wrong many times before and this could be yet another time…

      • TXCowgirl

        Thx, Mr. Death. That’s the type of answer I was seeking.

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          you are most certainly welcome, txcowgirl. cheers!

          • TXCowgirl

            (cue the clicking of glasses)….And to your health, my dear.

    • chukicita

      I think a good sign in Clearwater (within the parameters of city law, of course) would be “How Much Did It Really Cost?” Because there is no transparency in Scientology, Inc. fundraising.

    • KJP in Portland

      I hope not. Because the word is out that they raised over $140 million for it when it’s only assessed at $80 million. And, no doubt much of the construction labor was RPF and they probably put the whole building together for around 20-25 million.

      Their lawsuit is about getting their money back, and I hope, no matter when that white elephant opens, that the Garcias get their mullah back, with interest!

      • Robert Eckert

        The suit doesn’t claim that the building was never going to open, just that there were multiple reggings for the same thing and other indications that much more money was raised than was actually spent on the building.

  • Dennis Robbins

    Ho hum … Scamotology announcing a “big deal” is about a 1.0 on the rectum scale. Sort of like Amway coming out with a new life changing product, only with them you actually GET stuff to put on the shelf in your basement.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      You don’t talk much…but when you do….I listen…………..LOL.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Hey, hey! Let’s be objective here, Dennis. Who said you can’t keep E-Meters, boxes of Basics and “Genius Meritorius” Awards in one’s abasement? Sheesh!

      • Dennis Robbins

        Doh! Dunce cap for me.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Yep. ;)

          • GlibWog

            awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww I love it.. I love the colors..sweeeeeeeth 1908 cool

      • KJP in Portland

        I have a lovely multimeter that I bought for $20.00 and an e-meter is what? $5,000?

        • Espiando

          And you don’t have to have two multimeters, and send them in every year for a Silver Certificate.

          • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

            Well, actually, if you need something more precise than multimeters, you soon arrive at instruments that need to stay calibrated, which you do indeed have to send them in every N years. Or, if you’re a proper customer, the manufacturer sends a team to your office and calibrate the instruments there and then (so you don’t have to mail them).
            What it boils down to: a proper (i.e. expensive :) ) instrument has a calibration date sticker on it.
            An e-meter may be expensive, it may need to be sent off for calibration once a year, but it does not measure anything that warrants such care. That the cost is pure profit to the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology is no side effect, it is most of the purpose.

            • Espiando

              As someone who’s had to write calibration programs for equipment and make sure they’ve been followed to the letter, you’re preaching to the choir, Jens. I just wanted to highlight the continuing ripoff that is the e-meter.

      • Missionary Kid

        In one’s abasement? Is that where one keeps their J&D?

    • jeff

      As someone else once said, “I’s like Amway without the useful cleaning products”

    • Sydjazz

      Rectum scale lol. Hey what ever happened to amway? I used to know the director here in aus

      • Robert Eckert

        There’s a new spinoff of Amway called “Quixtar” that tried to snag a friend of mine, the same friend who was love-bombed for a couple days by the Scientologists in the Columbus Org. I don’t think the “Amway” name has been completely retired but it has become toxic in enough places that they try using the new name now (sort of like Narconon rebranding itself as Forever Recovery or whatever).

        • KJP in Portland

          Amway is synonymous with Scientology, ergo, most the mainstream public thinks they are both a joke.

  • Sydjazz

    True

  • GlibWog

    Night all.. I have been on here all damn day and got NOTHING done.. NOTHING..

    Oh I did walk tonight.. if someone see Missionary Kid will you please tell him my Shin Splints ( maybe they weren’t shin splits..)

    They were tiny aches in my shins as I walked.. Well anyhoo…I didn’t have them tonight.. WooHoo..

    Love Glibby…

    I really, really, really like you guys… xoox

    • Aslansown

      Good for you for walking! I was getting into it — now it’s getting cold and rainy and I’m using that as an excuse not to continue!

      Sleep well!

      • GlibWog

        thanks Boo.. I have been here so long my butt is cramping..ha

        • Aslansown

          I know the feeling! Last spring I was determined to do the “Couch to 5K” program. Then I discovered the Bunker and I never got past the couch part of it! :-/

          • GlibWog

            hahahhahahhahahhahaha.. OMG I love it..

    • TXCowgirl

      As the Scarecrow sings, “Ease on down, ease on down the road.”

      • GlibWog

        I can make Easin look like running right now..haahhha

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      avez un bon soir, ma amie! parting is such sweet sorrow….

      • GlibWog

        night death.. BEHAVE … Glibby.. Nice meeting you.

    • jeff

      I am just now enjoying some pie tech in your honor.

      • GlibWog

        Jefffffffff NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO… What kind! I want a pie right now..

        ( Not a piece..the whole pie..)

        • jeff

          It’s an Apple one from Whole Foods, who started making them in-house, and I have to say, I liked the vendor they were using’s better. This has a little too much sugar and too much cinnamon for me, but it’s still good.

          • GlibWog

            Too much sugar and too much cinnamon.. Jeff you are absolutely killing me now..KILLING ME..errrrrrrgh… I will get you for that..

            The Whole foods in MI had fabulous pies.. tasted home made.. Thick crust ( I love) lard crust..( UH Yeah..) xo

          • Espiando

            Fuck Whole Foods.

            • KJP in Portland

              They’ve overran Portland, and I believe, their corporate is here too.

            • TXCowgirl

              Austin, TX

            • KJP in Portland

              But their co-owner Eileen Brady, ran for mayor here last year!

      • KJP in Portland

        I LOVE PIE! Haven’t seen any in quite some time ;)

    • DodoTheLaser

      Good night, Glibby! We really like you too!

      • GlibWog

        Oh Dodo You da man my friend.. Now I’m really going..ha

    • OrangySky

      What a day to miss the Bunker! haven’t even gotten to Jon Atack yet!

      • DodoTheLaser

        LOL!

    • Missionary Kid

      I’m glad you didn’t have them. It sounds like they actually were shin splints. Take care. (I know this is 8 hours later, but I’m still glad to hear it).

      Listen to your body. It’s telling you it’s doing better when there’s no pain. I hope it stays that way.

      • GlibWog

        Oh I was teasing in my description.. I am sure they were.. I promise Kid.. I am listening.. I am being very careful.. It is more a marathon than a sprint..

        • Missionary Kid

          I’m just happy you’re doing better. ;-))))

    • John P.

      If you are still experiencing impact issues in your joints after another week or two, I would suggest you consider a particular brand of running shoes (trainers, if you are a Brit). “Hoka One One” are designed specifically for ultra-marathon runners (30-150 mile racers) who are for obvious reasons extremely susceptible to impact injury. They are quite a bit more expensive than regular running shoes at about $170 per pair versus $90 to $120 for good high end running shoes from Nike or New Balance. But they have a lot more support and a lot more padding. They look like big fluffy pillows under your feet.

      Supermodel #1 runs in these for longer trail races and anything of any distance on pavement. While she’s not that big (120 pounds) she is of an age where even a small impact injury could turn into something that could threaten her career — it’s really, really tough to stay competitive within her age bracket much less racing against people half her age, so preventing injuries is at least as important as a good conditioning program. She’s only been using Hoka’s for a year, but is now fiercely loyal and says the extra $50 is worth every penny. They also appear to be quite a bit more durable than her previous brand (which aren’t bad; it’s just that these are extremely good). Some of her crazier friends who run in these usually get over 1,000 miles from a pair, which is remarkable for how many miles elite athletes get out of a pair of shoes.

      Given that these are fairly specialized, they’re not widely available in mass market stores, but are available mail order from Zappos and others. I don’t think they have distribution in Europe yet, but if you’re not in the US, you should be able to get international shipment from the usual web suspects.

      • GlibWog

        JP thank you for your info..seriously.. Yes.. that is a lot of $ but.. one thing I have been taught by my mama is to always wear good fitting shoes..

        OK ..remember Buster Browns.. ? ha Wore them! So would look at buying them as an investment to my health..

        OH I know what I’ll do. I will put a $1 in a jar every mile I walk. Last night I walked 1 1/2 miles..

        You gave me a great idea JP.. I know I am NOT a supermodel.. but I’ll give you a big old Hug and kiss… smooooooooooooooooooch… Glibby

  • DodoTheLaser

    Who wants to join the Sea Org?

    • TXCowgirl

      Who want to go mad and join the Sea Org?

      • GlibWog

        OMG that is my last upvote for the evening TX and it was ssoooooooooooooooo worth it! Bravo

        • KJP in Portland

          (((huigs))) and a good night to you. Sorry I missed out the last 5 hours.

          • GlibWog

            OOOPS I lied one more.. night honey.. I just read your post..OMG..ugh..Stay safe my friend.. xo (HUGS) Glibby..yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn

            • KJP in Portland

              Thank you Glibby. This one is really mental and I’ve had 6 years of terror, arguing and being nothing but used, used and, did I mention used? (((hugs)))

        • TXCowgirl

          It was my pleasure. Bon nuit.

      • KJP in Portland

        Funny! I like that one TX!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Rise to the Call!

        • KJP in Portland

          I’d RUN from that call. Heber Jentsch only drew a $50 a week salary as PRESIDENT of Sci International. Oh, f*&k this cult!

          • Sydjazz

            Say what you really mean lol. Hiya kjp

            • KJP in Portland

              Hiya Syd…sorry for the late holler-back. I got lost in the comment thread and missed this little nugget. SORRY.

            • Sydjazz

              Easy to get lost on here :)

        • TXCowgirl

          The few, the proud, the oppressed and confused.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Behave, TXCowgirl!

            • TXCowgirl

              Whoa there. Easy now TXCowgirl. You’re right, DL. I’ve reached and gone past my allotted witticisms for the evening. I will try to tick-a-lock.

            • DodoTheLaser

              I don’t know what tick-a-lock means, but I hope it’s nothing we will need to discuss later in your sec check.

            • TXCowgirl

              :-) It means to lock one’s lips,. My comments have been uncharacteristically prolific this evening. I’m now slinking off to bed under the cover of bunker postings. ZZzzzz……..

            • DodoTheLaser

              I know :) Sweet dreams!

            • TXCowgirl

              Faites de beaux rêves.

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              et que vos rêves les plus fous s’épanouir dans votre sommeil, ma amie! vive!

            • TXCowgirl

              Merci, mon petit chou.

            • KJP in Portland

              vive el vino spumeggante! (ah shit, wrong language)

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              whatup, kjp? hope the storms are gone and the sun has peeked out. not a fan of opera but that is a really cool and fun (drinking) song. my bottle of absinthe is currently feeling the pain. in the same spirit, my friend, cheers! *clink* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffVhp_B_1Tc

            • KJP in Portland

              I missed locking lips (((hugs))) sniff…

            • deathtoallpoliticians

              that is an awesome shoop, dodo! excellent job! cheers!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Thanks, but I’m not that good. Some WWP folks are.

            • KJP in Portland

              You’re up there in the top-tier of shoopers. You’re just showing your trademark class and humility! :)

            • DodoTheLaser

              Thank you, but I didn’t make it.

    • KJP in Portland

      Hi Dodo. Good to see you. Time for me to sit down and relax at the pooter now for the duration (except for 2 non-stop screaming, wailing step-grandbabies and ne’erdowell mother that hides here to escape her abusive, meth-taking boyfriend). I did mention how bad this 2nd marriage is?…coming to an end soon near you! Nasty, ill-mannered people. Singledom will be for me, like blowing Scientology and the resulting joy afterwards. No wonder I escape back to me bedroom, where I have my desk (command center) and my computer.

      • TXCowgirl

        Sounds like a series on Showtime. You should pitch it.

        • KJP in Portland

          I’m too exhausted. I’ll be happy just to be quiet, free and alone again :)

      • DodoTheLaser

        Sorry to hear that, K. Bad situations are temporary.

        • KJP in Portland

          I know, it’s been really bad. I’ve talked about it here in some length before. I walked into a bad situation, and have been nothing but verbally abused and unaffectionate ever since the first week of the marriage six years ago. It’s totally my fault that I stayed around this long. All I have been used for is the rent and the wallet. All I got back was constant verbal abuse. It will feel like blowing a cult when I leave sometime over the winter (as I’m getting back on my feet here).

          I wouldn’t wish this on anyone (oh, maybe David Midget)

          • Robert Eckert

            We don’t really know what his marriage to Shelly was like. From some accounts she was no prize either (although Jenna at least had some kind things to say about her).

            • KJP in Portland

              Maybe Shelly will materialize some day. And, maybe after she materializes, the cherch dies, implodes,gets launched to Xenu and Shelly writes a tell-all about her and the leader of da cult. THAT would be interesting.

              Just her reappearance (as we all would like to see) would be interesting.

              I still feel alone in my occasional opinion that she may be ‘no longer with us’.

              If she won’t come out, or speak up, doesn’t care and still is a diehard LRH follower…we can’t make her announce her existence.

              Flip side…Davey AntsPants might be covering something very blockbusting and damaging (maybe criminal)…up.

            • OrangySky

              Talk about a memoir that would get a great advance! I’ll ghost write Shelly’s memoir any day! Talk about being inside the belly of the beast.
              Actually, Lou Stuckenbruck’s memoir will probably be better. I wonder if she’ll ever face the fact that she basically handed down a death sentence to her own husband?

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        i have done my fair share of divorces so i wish you the best of luck. i hope you have an excellent attorney. please let me know if i may be able to answer any questions for you. i may not be licensed in oregon but i can wax poetically and generally on a variety of family law topics. i will keep my fingers crossed for you, kjp.

        • KJP in Portland

          I’ll remember your offer. Thank you Mr. Death.

      • deathtoallpoliticians

        and who the heck gave you a down vote, kjp? some of the people on this forum are simply unbelievable. well, screw that person. you have many, many friends here for support.

        • KJP in Portland

          Thank you. I feel that way here. Great group indeed!

      • KJP in Portland

        Thanks for the downie. You truly have no idea. Abuse works the other way too. Not just man TO woman. I have 6 years of scars to show for it.

      • John P.

        Singledom has its advantages, especially for men in our demographic (I’m guessing you’re in your early 50s based on what I recall from some of your earlier comments about your time on Enterprise, etc). It turns out that there are not a lot of single men in that demographic, so unless you’ve got your heart set on dating 32-year olds, you’ll be in what some call a “target rich environment.” If you focused on women 45+, you will not lack for opportunities. And on-line dating sites, particularly the quality ones like OkCupid and match.com, are a great way to meet people that you may actually have something in common with other than hanging out at the same seedy bar.

        You may not live in Manhattan where there are so many supermodels everywhere that it’s virtually an epidemic, but I am sure that you’ll do more than fine when you want to hang out your “available” sign once again.

    • Espiando

      The guy looks like a badly-manufactured wax dummy.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Better?

        • Robert Eckert

          A Vulcan who got an ear job?

          • DodoTheLaser

            Pretty much!

        • Snippy_X

          Join today and get three free medals. Collect all 8999 medals for only $750,000 in free loader debt. Limited time offer while supplies of the old medals last. Not sold in stores.

          • KJP in Portland

            Join the REAL NAVY and do some REAL good for your country! Earn REAL PAY, eat REAL FOOD!, have way more freedom than the Sea Org! Go ’round the World and see many beautiful countries!

            SERVE YOUR COUNTRY, NOT YOUR MASTER!

        • KJP in Portland

          I revile and despise the mis-use of my Navy’s grand uniforms and decorations! Ohhh! (gritting my teeth again!)

        • Johnny Tank

          This poster even has the seagull in it. The mighty Seagull! The bird of the Sea Org. The seagull: scavenger of the seas, warrior of the rubbish tip!

      • KJP in Portland

        Fresh from Madame Toussauds!