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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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How You Can Help Raise Money for Narconon’s Legal Defense!

Scientology’s drug rehab program, Narconon, is now being sued by a whole bunch of folks because, well, people keep dropping dead at its clinics.

We figure Narconon could use some help paying for all that legal cheddar they’re going to have to fork out. But then we found out that there’s a really fun way to raise money for its coffers, and it’s coming up in a couple of months.

Turns out there’s a very popular couple of races in December, and there’s plenty of time for you to register. On December 2 in the Los Angeles area there’s the Say No To Drugs Race Holiday Classic, and a couple of weeks later, on December 15, in Clearwater, Florida there’s the Say No To Drugs Holiday Classic.

Yes, the names are similar. In fact, the Clearwater race was started first, in 1988, by runner Sandra Johnson of the Dianetics Athletics Association, and the LA race was created in 2001.

Of the two, the LA race sounds like a real gas, since it takes place at Universal Studios. Here’s how its route is described:

Enjoy the backlot not from a tram, but with your own two feet! The chip-timed 10K/5K Race course will wind you through the backlot, over blacktop on flat ground, up and down several steep hills, and through the Bates Motel & Psycho House, Jaws Lake, Little Mexico, New York Street, Whoville, War of the Worlds and more. Course is subject to change due to filming.

And although we couldn’t find the word “Scientology” on the LA race’s website, as you can see from the race’s list of beneficiaries, a couple of Scientology front groups will be in line for cash: Foundation for a Drug-Free World, and Narconon.

Now, we’re not really sure how many runners in the LA area who sign up for this race are aware that they’re taking part in a Scientology event and helping to raise money for Scientology front groups, but we’re sure they’ll be more than happy to know where their cash is going. And maybe they’ll set personal bests along the way. Help spread the word!

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Scientology Sunday Funnies!

Just about every day, we receive the latest wacky and tacky fundraising mailers put out by Scientology orgs around the world. Thank you, tipsters, for forwarding them to us! On Sundays, we love to reveal them to you.

We’ll start off our funnies with this appeal from the editor of Scientology’s Auditor magazine…

And how about this hearty endorsement of Ron the photographer from a New York institution that actually bought some of Ron’s tall tales!

Remember the bowling gals from the Valley Celebrity Centre? Well, here’s the result of all their hard work after last month’s bowling fundraiser. And a handy list of all the donors to the Valley’s Ideal Org, in case you were wondering…

And finally, for the Hubbard completist, we know you will be shocked to learn you can STILL get your hands on a VHS copy of the Hymn of Asia 2000 concert!

Thank you, tipsters, and keep them coming!

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  • Jonathan

    Is there a way to lobby Universal Studios about their support for Scientology ?

    • TrustMeOnThis

      Good idea! Also if you know anyone in the LA running scene, getting the word out there would be smart.

      • Shelly

        Or someone get this to the Los Angeles Times — They will run with it.

        • http://gravatar.com/poisonivyherself Poison Ivy

          Is someone at the top in Universal Studios ops a Scientologist? I’m furious at them. I love that backlot. How dare they defile it!

  • Jonathan

    Is there a way to lobby Universal Studios about their support for Scientology ?

    • TrustMeOnThis

      Good idea! Also if you know anyone in the LA running scene, getting the word out there would be smart.

      • Shelly

        Or someone get this to the Los Angeles Times — They will run with it.

        • http://gravatar.com/poisonivyherself Poison Ivy

          Is someone at the top in Universal Studios ops a Scientologist? I’m furious at them. I love that backlot. How dare they defile it!

          • trustmeonthisone

            Is there some way to lodge a protest?

  • Skydog

    Judging by the list of contributors, one could make a modest living selling cool-aid in Orange County.

    • DMSTCC

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS PLATINUM MERITORIOUS $7,500,000

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS MERITORIOUS $5,000,000

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS WITH HONORS $2,500,000

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDER $1,000,000
      1 purple

      PLATINUM HUMANITARIAN $750,000

      GOLD HUMANITARIAN $500,000

      SILVER HUMANITARIAN $250,000
      2 purple

      HUMANITARIAN WITH HONORS $150,000
      2 purple

      HUMANITARIAN $100,000
      4 purple

      PREMIER BENEFACTOR $50,000
      5 purple

      BENEFACTOR $35,000
      2 purple

      VANGUARD WITH HONORS $20,000
      17 purple

      VANGUARD CLUB $10,000
      10 purple
      2 blue

      ALUMNI $5,000
      10 purple
      2 blue

      LEADING CONTRIBUTORS $?,000
      14 purple
      1 blue

      CONTRIBUTORS $1,000
      19 purple
      3 blue

      SUPPORTERS $500

      FRIENDS $1-$499

      • Mrs. Libnish

        This is what I was looking for, thanks!

        • So Much You Still Don’t Know

          What happened to Course Completions and Auditing Completions? Oh, right, there are none anymore.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Nrmmm Noah Miller

        But I want to be a Premiere Supreme Total Awesome Meritorious Civilization Increaser, Fifth Order with UltraHonors.

  • Skydog

    Judging by the list of contributors, one could make a modest living selling cool-aid in Orange County.

    • DMSTCC

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS PLATINUM MERITORIOUS $7,500,000

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS MERITORIOUS $5,000,000

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDERS WITH HONORS $2,500,000

      NEW CIVILIZATION BUILDER $1,000,000
      1 purple

      PLATINUM HUMANITARIAN $750,000

      GOLD HUMANITARIAN $500,000

      SILVER HUMANITARIAN $250,000
      2 purple

      HUMANITARIAN WITH HONORS $150,000
      2 purple

      HUMANITARIAN $100,000
      4 purple

      PREMIER BENEFACTOR $50,000
      5 purple

      BENEFACTOR $35,000
      2 purple

      VANGUARD WITH HONORS $20,000
      17 purple

      VANGUARD CLUB $10,000
      10 purple
      2 blue

      ALUMNI $5,000
      10 purple
      2 blue

      LEADING CONTRIBUTORS $?,000
      14 purple
      1 blue

      CONTRIBUTORS $1,000
      19 purple
      3 blue

      SUPPORTERS $500

      FRIENDS $1-$499

      • Mrs. Libnish

        This is what I was looking for, thanks!

        • So Much You Still Don’t Know

          What happened to Course Completions and Auditing Completions? Oh, right, there are none anymore.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Nrmmm Noah Miller

        But I want to be a Premiere Supreme Total Awesome Meritorious Civilization Increaser, Fifth Order with UltraHonors.

  • http://gravatar.com/pattyp Patty Moher

    Any volunteers for typing out that list of contributors and sending it to me at ppieniadz@gmail.com?. I can feed lists like that to Kristi Wachter’s Truth About Scientology site– the one that lists all the completions.

    • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

      Can’t you just cut and paste?

      • http://mirele.wordpress.com/ mirele

        It’s a scan, so no she can’t. Patty, I’ll take care of that for you and send it to you.

        • http://mirele.wordpress.com/ mirele

          Check your e-mail, Patty.

    • So Much You Still Don’t Know

      Completions? No one completed anything but the empty your pocketbook course. There isn’t a single course or auditing completion listed here.

      • http://mirele.wordpress.com/ mirele

        It’s still important information to obtain, slice and dice. :)

  • http://gravatar.com/pattyp Patty Moher

    Any volunteers for typing out that list of contributors and sending it to me at ppieniadz@gmail.com?. I can feed lists like that to Kristi Wachter’s Truth About Scientology site– the one that lists all the completions.

    • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

      Can’t you just cut and paste?

      • http://mirele.wordpress.com/ mirele

        It’s a scan, so no she can’t. Patty, I’ll take care of that for you and send it to you.

        • http://mirele.wordpress.com/ mirele

          Check your e-mail, Patty.

          • http://gravatar.com/pattyp Patty Moher

            Thank you mir, you are an absolute doll for doing this. Much appreciated.

            To the nextmrstomcruise, unfortunately, I need them in text in order to feed them to the database.

    • So Much You Still Don’t Know

      Completions? No one completed anything but the empty your pocketbook course. There isn’t a single course or auditing completion listed here.

      • http://mirele.wordpress.com/ mirele

        It’s still important information to obtain, slice and dice. :)

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    On the New York Institute of Photography blog, its director updated it with this comment:

    “Photography has often been called “the universal language,” and at a time when a small number of individuals around the globe are lashing out at people with different beliefs, a universal language that can promote understanding has never been more necessary.”

    Well! I just had to respond (nicely).

    http://blog.nyip.com/main/2012/9/21/nyip-student-success-l-ron-hubbard.html

    • http://gravatar.com/sandyshores50 Plumeria

      The NYIP article says Hubbard took one or more courses from them. I wonder if that’s really true, and if NYIP checked their student records. After all, he failed his one college physics course, yet called himself a nuclear physicist.

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        The NYIP wikipedia entry says they have an A rating with the BBB. Their blog says Hubbard took the correspondence course and there’s no immediate reason to doubt that claim. However, correspondence courses never have and never will have the legitimacy of traditional classroom certificates/diplomas.

        Assuming good faith on their part, I can only hope they realize that bragging about Hubbard being an alumni is anything but a feather in their cap.

        • TrustMeOnThis

          Wiki is not a terribly reliable source. And BBB is even worse. They make themselves LOOK like a gov’t agency but they are private, and they charge you for every little thing – to be listed, you pay. To use their log on your web site, you pay more. They don’t check anything unless someone bothers to complain (and you can probably pay to make that go away)! Not trustworthy. Another $ scam. Do not be fooled.

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            I agree, hence the caveat of the value of correspondence courses. However, a cursory google search revealed no major issues as far as their business practices are concerned.

            Jes sayin’ it’s unfortunate if they were naive enough to buy the Hubbard Greatness spiel only because he’s an alumni, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater yet.

            Of course I reserve the right to throw this conciliatory post is out the window if there is a confirmed scilon connection.

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              Btw, I’d just like to mention that comments are moderated yet my posts pass within a few minutes and none have been deleted. So there’s that, for whatever it’s worth (let’s be honest, we can’t say the same for… oh I don’t know… Huffington Post)

              Right now and unless I’m proven wrong, I think they genuinely meant well enough and had no idea Mr. Johnson’s blog was headed for a steaming pile of poo.

            • TrustMeOnThis

              Oh, I’m sure they had no idea. They seem totally legit. I just have an axe to grind with the BBB – they are also scammers! Not as bad as $ci but they strong-arm small businesses and provide nothing, are not objective. It is a money making venture and that is IT. So yeah, I’m just sayin’.

        • N. Graham

          No doubt. Next they’ll brag that John Wayne Gacy went there and learned how to do his renowned clown pictures.

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            Gacy PAINTED clowns, he didn’t PHOTOGRAPH them.

            Not that much of a subtle difference /sarcasme. Come on!

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            Jebus!, Your post at the NYIP site:

            “I agree, I really don’t think you should discriminate when it comes to good photos. The BTK Killer had an interest in photography and added some historical insights to Polaroid photography. Will you be featuring him here also? ”

            Let’s have a genuine discussion here. Don’t you think it would be more purposeful to set out to inform them with facts that NEVER fail rather than antagonize them with straw man taunts?

            Was it too much to ask of you to jump in the irreverent “did you know *insert incredible Hubbard accomplishment* game going on the site’s mods are obviously letting through (and if anyone’s complaining, which I’m sure there are, mods ain’t listening)?

            • einsteinonthebeach

              I don’t think there is anyone here who would play a game….. oh there was the one guy:)

            • http://alsfunmail.wordpress.com NGraham2

              Too subtle?

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              No. Now I get it, but I’ll let you explain it as if I didn’t.

            • einsteinonthebeach

              I just meant that there was that one prankster “Hail Marcabia,” that’s all I meant.

            • http://gravatar.com/ngraham1 N. Graham

              Who are you, my mother? You’re “calling me out”? Who do YOU think you are? Did you post some rules for people who are on Tony’s blog to use when posting on other people’s blogs? Because otherwise I haven’t seen any. I see from your later posts that you don’t understand sarcasm. Well, until you get a little more mired in the blog I suggest you don’t judge other people’s posts until you get a little more understanding about what’s going on. In the meantime, you can post however you want to to the one sock puppet that’s making all the posts. I’ll play to the curious people who might want to check out Scientology and maybe will take it less seriously after they read MY post. Understand?

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    On the New York Institute of Photography blog, its director updated it with this comment:

    “Photography has often been called “the universal language,” and at a time when a small number of individuals around the globe are lashing out at people with different beliefs, a universal language that can promote understanding has never been more necessary.”

    Well! I just had to respond (nicely).

    http://blog.nyip.com/main/2012/9/21/nyip-student-success-l-ron-hubbard.html

    • http://gravatar.com/sandyshores50 Plumeria

      The NYIP article says Hubbard took one or more courses from them. I wonder if that’s really true, and if NYIP checked their student records. After all, he failed his one college physics course, yet called himself a nuclear physicist.

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        The NYIP wikipedia entry says they have an A rating with the BBB. Their blog says Hubbard took the correspondence course and there’s no immediate reason to doubt that claim. However, correspondence courses never have and never will have the legitimacy of traditional classroom certificates/diplomas.

        Assuming good faith on their part, I can only hope they realize that bragging about Hubbard being an alumni is anything but a feather in their cap.

        • TrustMeOnThis

          Wiki is not a terribly reliable source. And BBB is even worse. They make themselves LOOK like a gov’t agency but they are private, and they charge you for every little thing – to be listed, you pay. To use their log on your web site, you pay more. They don’t check anything unless someone bothers to complain (and you can probably pay to make that go away)! Not trustworthy. Another $ scam. Do not be fooled.

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            I agree, hence the caveat of the value of correspondence courses. However, a cursory google search revealed no major issues as far as their business practices are concerned.

            Jes sayin’ it’s unfortunate if they were naive enough to buy the Hubbard Greatness spiel only because he’s an alumni, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater yet.

            Of course I reserve the right to throw this conciliatory post is out the window if there is a confirmed scilon connection.

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              Btw, I’d just like to mention that comments are moderated yet my posts pass within a few minutes and none have been deleted. So there’s that, for whatever it’s worth (let’s be honest, we can’t say the same for… oh I don’t know… Huffington Post)

              Right now and unless I’m proven wrong, I think they genuinely meant well enough and had no idea Mr. Johnson’s blog was headed for a steaming pile of poo.

            • TrustMeOnThis

              Oh, I’m sure they had no idea. They seem totally legit. I just have an axe to grind with the BBB – they are also scammers! Not as bad as $ci but they strong-arm small businesses and provide nothing, are not objective. It is a money making venture and that is IT. So yeah, I’m just sayin’.

        • N. Graham

          No doubt. Next they’ll brag that John Wayne Gacy went there and learned how to do his renowned clown pictures.

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            Gacy PAINTED clowns, he didn’t PHOTOGRAPH them.

            Not that much of a subtle difference /sarcasme. Come on!

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            Jebus!, Your post at the NYIP site:

            “I agree, I really don’t think you should discriminate when it comes to good photos. The BTK Killer had an interest in photography and added some historical insights to Polaroid photography. Will you be featuring him here also? ”

            Let’s have a genuine discussion here. Don’t you think it would be more purposeful to set out to inform them with facts that NEVER fail rather than antagonize them with straw man taunts?

            Was it too much to ask of you to jump in the irreverent “did you know *insert incredible Hubbard accomplishment* game going on the site’s mods are obviously letting through (and if anyone’s complaining, which I’m sure there are, mods ain’t listening)?

            • einsteinonthebeach

              I don’t think there is anyone here who would play a game….. oh there was the one guy:)

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              *whoosh*

              that one flew over me, you kindred Philip-Glass-lover-you.

              if it wasn’t clear, the “game” I was referring to concerns what’s happening on the BYIP site where a few posters (please join, no sign-up necessary) are spoofing Hubbard’s outrageously obvious false claims.

            • http://alsfunmail.wordpress.com NGraham2

              Too subtle?

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              No. Now I get it, but I’ll let you explain it as if I didn’t.

            • einsteinonthebeach

              Most people don’t know the Marcabia was often hailed by subspace communications:)

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              Okee-doke.

              I’m going to assume this is a Rodeo inside joke, yet I ask you to reconsider what the hell you think you are doing on Tony’s blog.

              You may have missed it, but I did announce that my username at VV was Anon Anon Song and whether a perceived noob status is currently involved or not, your behavior right now is… well…. disappointing.

            • einsteinonthebeach

              I just meant that there was that one prankster “Hail Marcabia,” that’s all I meant.

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              I was calling N. Graham out for unnecessarily antagonizing NYIP. So what does one “Hail Marcabia” prankster have to do with it?

              Actually, I don’t want an answer. Really.

            • einsteinonthebeach

              @penguin,

              I was replying only to the game part of your post. Sorry for the confusion.

            • http://gravatar.com/ngraham1 N. Graham

              Who are you, my mother? You’re “calling me out”? Who do YOU think you are? Did you post some rules for people who are on Tony’s blog to use when posting on other people’s blogs? Because otherwise I haven’t seen any. I see from your later posts that you don’t understand sarcasm. Well, until you get a little more mired in the blog I suggest you don’t judge other people’s posts until you get a little more understanding about what’s going on. In the meantime, you can post however you want to to the one sock puppet that’s making all the posts. I’ll play to the curious people who might want to check out Scientology and maybe will take it less seriously after they read MY post. Understand?

          • http://gravatar.com/ngraham1 N. Graham

            BTW Penguin, if your are going to take authoritarian tone that everybody has to do things YOUR WAY, you might consider starting your own religion/cult.

  • bosonstark

    It sure is going to be odd, watching how this cult copes with their impending collapse.

    I wonder if I should write into Auditor Mag with my “win” story of how reading about Xenu on the Internet expanded my space across all dynamics, and how I didn’t get pneumonia, like Hubbard said I would.

    Remember, there is only one Xenu, and only Scientology’s got ‘em.

    • Gianna

      Yeah, my “win” story are journalists like tony o, tobin and childs and all exes out there for exposing this fraud. I just “knew” to read their reportage or stories and BELIEVE THEM. Saved me YEARS of being scammed and lord knows how much money.

      There you go, auditors Mag – one big win for you.

    • Mrs. Libnish

      I read about Zenu 4 months ago. Today, I woke up with a sore throat. Mommy…I’m scared.

    • LemonLemon

      “It sure is going to be odd, watching how this cult copes with their impending collapse.”

      Perhaps it will be that Davy serves them all that special kool-aid, Jim Jones style. It’s not like Davy will drink it himself, of course. He’s got fortunes stashed away in off-shore locations, to think of .

  • bosonstark

    It sure is going to be odd, watching how this cult copes with their impending collapse.

    I wonder if I should write into Auditor Mag with my “win” story of how reading about Xenu on the Internet expanded my space across all dynamics, and how I didn’t get pneumonia, like Hubbard said I would.

    Remember, there is only one Xenu, and only Scientology’s got ‘em.

    • Gianna

      Yeah, my “win” story are journalists like tony o, tobin and childs and all exes out there for exposing this fraud. I just “knew” to read their reportage or stories and BELIEVE THEM. Saved me YEARS of being scammed and lord knows how much money.

      There you go, auditors Mag – one big win for you.

    • Mrs. Libnish

      I read about Zenu 4 months ago. Today, I woke up with a sore throat. Mommy…I’m scared.

    • LemonLemon

      “It sure is going to be odd, watching how this cult copes with their impending collapse.”

      Perhaps it will be that Davy serves them all that special kool-aid, Jim Jones style. It’s not like Davy will drink it himself, of course. He’s got fortunes stashed away in off-shore locations, to think of .

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    I think my previous post went into moderation because I added the link. Apologies if this is a double post.

    Re/ the New York Institute of Photography blog, its director added this update:

    “Photography has often been called “the universal language,” and at a time when a small number of individuals around the globe are lashing out at people with different beliefs, a universal language that can promote understanding has never been more necessary.”

    Well! I just had to respond.

    • einsteinonthebeach

      It would be great to blow up those horrendous Advance! cover photos Hubbard did, frame them, and donate them to the New York Institute – on the condition that they are displayed in the Institute lobby.

      • N. Graham

        Like and lol

    • TrustMeOnThis

      Nice response. WOW did they get the $cilon backpats over there! But there are two voices of reason. Good work – concise, clear, non-emotional. Upstat!

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        Thanks.

        “WOW did they get the $cilon backpats over there!”

        Lol, I know, right? I love the “I’m going to sign up now because of this very informative article” posts.

        Pfft, unless the NYIP apply a little skepticism (which they won’t judging by Mr. Johnson’s blog), little do they know that those are bogus scilon self-validating posts and nowhere near close to happening. If anyone can provide the definitive photography course, it’s the cos!

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    I think my previous post went into moderation because I added the link. Apologies if this is a double post.

    Re/ the New York Institute of Photography blog, its director added this update:

    “Photography has often been called “the universal language,” and at a time when a small number of individuals around the globe are lashing out at people with different beliefs, a universal language that can promote understanding has never been more necessary.”

    Well! I just had to respond.

    • einsteinonthebeach

      It would be great to blow up those horrendous Advance! cover photos Hubbard did, frame them, and donate them to the New York Institute – on the condition that they are displayed in the Institute lobby.

      • N. Graham

        Like and lol

    • TrustMeOnThis

      Nice response. WOW did they get the $cilon backpats over there! But there are two voices of reason. Good work – concise, clear, non-emotional. Upstat!

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        Thanks.

        “WOW did they get the $cilon backpats over there!”

        Lol, I know, right? I love the “I’m going to sign up now because of this very informative article” posts.

        Pfft, unless the NYIP apply a little skepticism (which they won’t judging by Mr. Johnson’s blog), little do they know that those are bogus scilon self-validating posts and nowhere near close to happening. If anyone can provide the definitive photography course, it’s the cos!

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    I’m drawing a blank, in the Valley Org Honor Roll, isn’t “Her Royal Governor of the Vast Valley Territory” Nancy Cartwright?

    *rolleyes*

    • PeggyToo

      I believe you are right on this. There is another T-Shirt idea…….Picture of Bart Simpson with a crown and the words ‘Her Royal Governor of the VVT’. BAHAHAHA

    • burythenuts

      Yep. She is so exalted she no longer needs her meat body name.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    I’m drawing a blank, in the Valley Org Honor Roll, isn’t “Her Royal Governor of the Vast Valley Territory” Nancy Cartwright?

    *rolleyes*

    • PeggyToo

      I believe you are right on this. There is another T-Shirt idea…….Picture of Bart Simpson with a crown and the words ‘Her Royal Governor of the VVT’. BAHAHAHA

    • burythenuts

      Yep. She is so exalted she no longer needs her meat body name.

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        Ha! Based DMSTCC’s previous post that doesn’t quite match Tony’s posted Honor Roll, the New Civilization Builders Meritorious title seems to be about the equivalent of the Gold New Civilization Builder at the $5 Million threshold.

        So, other than the meat body theory, Nancy either wants a) scilon acknowledgment but also plausible deniability to the general public
        and/or b) figures that attaching oneself with a worthless title that includes “Her Royal…” in it is somehow seems more humble and discreet.

        Fact is, it’s hopelessly pathetic either way.

  • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

    I have often called myself the world’s worst photographer. I stand corrected.

  • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

    I have often called myself the world’s worst photographer. I stand corrected.

  • sugarplumfairy32

    “…Scientology is the only workable system man has. It has already taken people toward higher IQ, better lives and all that…” and all that.. Why does that irritate me so much?

    “…Their end product is further slavery, more darkness and more misery…” now, that’s ironic..

    • ThatClose

      does anyone know of any ex-Scios who actually took IQ tests before and after and experiences a documented increase?

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        If anyone did and proved the claim, we would certainly know about it.

  • sugarplumfairy32

    “…Scientology is the only workable system man has. It has already taken people toward higher IQ, better lives and all that…” and all that.. Why does that irritate me so much?

    “…Their end product is further slavery, more darkness and more misery…” now, that’s ironic..

    • ThatClose

      does anyone know of any ex-Scios who actually took IQ tests before and after and experiences a documented increase?

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        If anyone did and proved the claim, we would certainly know about it.

  • sugarplumfairy32

    Thenextmrstomcruise and I visited the Philly org yesterday.. She actually went inside.. I stayed outside so I could call 911 if she didn’t come back out.. She did come back out.. With a flyer asking for donations.. For a mere $600, we can put a brand new set of lrh books in a local library.. Just what the world needs.. More lrh quotes..

    • http://gravatar.com/moxonmoxoff moxon moxoff

      Yes, I thought that was crazy–$600 for a set of books? You know those sets don’t cost that much to produce. Where does the rest of that money go do you think? Hair gel for Miss Cabbage? Also, it’s not like the libraries want those materials. I thought Tony had published a few letters from librarians asking the Scilons to stop sending the books because nobody wants to borrow them. Alas, I could not locate the story. It was pretty funny . . . if anyone can find I wouldn’t mind a re-read!

      • sugarplumfairy32

        Lol.. Yah, I’d like to read that.. How often do you get a letter from a library asking you to cease and desist..

        scientology.. It’s always more irritating than you think..

        • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

          Yeah, Moxon, he did publish those letters, I remember enjoying them. Can’t find them now though.

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            Unless you already done so and can point me to a post detailing it somewhere, what was the experience like?

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              Crap! That was meant as a reply to your 11:34 post

            • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

              No probs. I understood you. Feel bad repeating it though, since I’ve already given the lowdown on the Rodeo.

              In short, it was delightful until they sent out Nick to size me up. But I had my friend Sugarplumfairy in the car, and if I wasn’t out in 15 minutes she was gonna storm the place. That made me braver. Still not brave enough to head down the hallway–I confined myself to the lobby. But they did invite me back next Saturday for their $$ course. They told me they only do the money course in person, not online :)

          • einsteinonthebeach
          • einsteinonthebeach

            I guess my links aren’t posting.

            Tony’s librarian articles:
            February 28, 2012 How Scientology Drives Your Local Librarian Nuts
            June 10, 2012 More Reasons for Librarians to Hide
            April 29, 2012 Librarians Under Assault!

            • sugarplumfairy32

              Thanks, Einstein..

          • mattekudasi

            Exactly!
            It was on Tonys VV blog: How Scientology drives your local librarian nuts. Hope this helps.

            • mattekudasi

              Can someone offer some suggestions. I’m having trouble with this blog. The only time I see breaking comments is when I comment myself. Then my response is untimely or as in Johnathon’s word SUPERFLUOUS.
              Back at the VV new messages appeared instantly. I don’t know how to fix this.

            • einsteinonthebeach

              You just have to keep reloading the page. That was one of the nice things about livefyre (when it was actually working, which seemed to 10% of the time) was the “real-time” comment tracking. Just like the good old days, it helps to keep an eye on the number of posts.

            • mattekudasi

              Thanx Eienstien, that works. I’m one of the few who liked livefyre cause in my little corner of the world it worked pretty much 100% of the time. I hypothesize it’s got something to do with relativity.

      • burythenuts
    • Mrs. Libnish

      I am totally going to do that to the 3 Seattle orgs the next time I’m over. I’ve already emailed the addys to my mom so she can case the joints. I will bring my video camera and my CPL.

      • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

        Make sure you have someone outside who can extricate you if need be Mrs. Libnish. I was afraid if I walked down the hallway, I’d never be seen again without a Sea Org uniform…

        • Mrs. Libnish

          My mom is an ass kicker. She’ll be outside and I’ll have my little friend with me (and by “little friend” I mean NO one puts their hands on me in a threatening manner and gets away with it). You..in Sea Org attire…NEVER! I have to do it. I need pictures and/or video. The next time me and the hubby are out on the deck enjoying a vodka tonic, we can review and laugh about it together as we call the neighbors SP’s.

          • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

            I put up some pics of the Phila org over on the Rodeo if you’re interested.

            • http://anyoldname1.wordpress.com anyoldname1

              Would love to see them but my membership hasn’t been approved. How long does it take?

              BTW, I’m in the Philly area too.

  • sugarplumfairy32

    Thenextmrstomcruise and I visited the Philly org yesterday.. She actually went inside.. I stayed outside so I could call 911 if she didn’t come back out.. She did come back out.. With a flyer asking for donations.. For a mere $600, we can put a brand new set of lrh books in a local library.. Just what the world needs.. More lrh quotes..

    • http://gravatar.com/moxonmoxoff moxon moxoff

      Yes, I thought that was crazy–$600 for a set of books? You know those sets don’t cost that much to produce. Where does the rest of that money go do you think? Hair gel for Miss Cabbage? Also, it’s not like the libraries want those materials. I thought Tony had published a few letters from librarians asking the Scilons to stop sending the books because nobody wants to borrow them. Alas, I could not locate the story. It was pretty funny . . . if anyone can find I wouldn’t mind a re-read!

      • sugarplumfairy32

        Lol.. Yah, I’d like to read that.. How often do you get a letter from a library asking you to cease and desist..

        scientology.. It’s always more irritating than you think..

        • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

          Yeah, Moxon, he did publish those letters, I remember enjoying them. Can’t find them now though.

          • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

            Unless you already done so and can point me to a post detailing it somewhere, what was the experience like?

            • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

              Crap! That was meant as a reply to your 11:34 post

            • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

              No probs. I understood you. Feel bad repeating it though, since I’ve already given the lowdown on the Rodeo.

              In short, it was delightful until they sent out Nick to size me up. But I had my friend Sugarplumfairy in the car, and if I wasn’t out in 15 minutes she was gonna storm the place. That made me braver. Still not brave enough to head down the hallway–I confined myself to the lobby. But they did invite me back next Saturday for their $$ course. They told me they only do the money course in person, not online :)

          • einsteinonthebeach
          • einsteinonthebeach

            I guess my links aren’t posting.

            Tony’s librarian articles:
            February 28, 2012 How Scientology Drives Your Local Librarian Nuts
            June 10, 2012 More Reasons for Librarians to Hide
            April 29, 2012 Librarians Under Assault!

            • sugarplumfairy32

              Thanks, Einstein..

          • mattekudasi

            Exactly!
            It was on Tonys VV blog: How Scientology drives your local librarian nuts. Hope this helps.

            • mattekudasi

              Can someone offer some suggestions. I’m having trouble with this blog. The only time I see breaking comments is when I comment myself. Then my response is untimely or as in Johnathon’s word SUPERFLUOUS.
              Back at the VV new messages appeared instantly. I don’t know how to fix this.

            • einsteinonthebeach

              You just have to keep reloading the page. That was one of the nice things about livefyre (when it was actually working, which seemed to 10% of the time) was the “real-time” comment tracking. Just like the good old days, it helps to keep an eye on the number of posts.

            • mattekudasi

              Thanx Eienstien, that works. I’m one of the few who liked livefyre cause in my little corner of the world it worked pretty much 100% of the time. I hypothesize it’s got something to do with relativity.

      • burythenuts
        • einsteinonthebeach

          Nice! I tried posting that link but it wouldn’t let me…maybe it was because I was trying to link to 3 articles

          • einsteinonthebeach

            And now I see they went through? Must be via moderation for links.

      • http://alsfunmail.wordpress.com NGraham2

        That was me! 10 of my Warhol 15 minutes. I sent the info and wrote it up about the insane surveys they would send. Here’s the link:
        http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientology_drives_librarians_nuts.php

    • Mrs. Libnish

      I am totally going to do that to the 3 Seattle orgs the next time I’m over. I’ve already emailed the addys to my mom so she can case the joints. I will bring my video camera and my CPL.

      • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

        Make sure you have someone outside who can extricate you if need be Mrs. Libnish. I was afraid if I walked down the hallway, I’d never be seen again without a Sea Org uniform…

        • Mrs. Libnish

          My mom is an ass kicker. She’ll be outside and I’ll have my little friend with me (and by “little friend” I mean NO one puts their hands on me in a threatening manner and gets away with it). You..in Sea Org attire…NEVER! I have to do it. I need pictures and/or video. The next time me and the hubby are out on the deck enjoying a vodka tonic, we can review and laugh about it together as we call the neighbors SP’s.

          • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

            I put up some pics of the Phila org over on the Rodeo if you’re interested.

            • http://anyoldname1.wordpress.com anyoldname1

              Would love to see them but my membership hasn’t been approved. How long does it take?

              BTW, I’m in the Philly area too.

  • einsteinonthebeach

    Wow – the Auditors get their own magazine, and they get to talk about their Wins!!

    How would that go, I wonder… “So, I was auditing this PC who had a totally downstat husband. Every time we recommended a new course, she had to discuss it with her husband first. I made it clear that, since she was immortal, she has had millions of husbands, so why cling to this one? After a few intense sessions, she came around, and decided to get a divorce! This huge win was even better because I made sure she got her own checking account ahead of time!”

    • Nina

      Amazing!! I was I’m the middle of auditing a lovely lady. She ran out in the middle of the session and we weren’t able to stop her… She arrived back within 5 minutes with a pack of cigarettes for me. She JUST KNEW that I was dying for a smoke!!!

      • sugarplumfairy32

        Sooo.. I was sec checking this PTS named Tony Ortega and he kept refusing to admit his crimes.. He kept trying to ask ME questions and I kept telling him, dude, it doesnt work that way.. I ask the questions around here.. I asked him what color my eyes are and he says who really gaf what color your eyes are.. I asked him if this reminded him of an earlier time when someone really irritating was asking him stupid questions.. Again he starts with the questions..I told him he’d never make clear with that attitude..

        • PeggyToo

          ROFL

        • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

          Too late Fairy, he already has the clear bracelet!

          • burythenuts

            And he got that clear bracelet just the way scientologist do.
            He bought it………..

        • Mrs. Libnish

          FTW!

  • einsteinonthebeach

    Wow – the Auditors get their own magazine, and they get to talk about their Wins!!

    How would that go, I wonder… “So, I was auditing this PC who had a totally downstat husband. Every time we recommended a new course, she had to discuss it with her husband first. I made it clear that, since she was immortal, she has had millions of husbands, so why cling to this one? After a few intense sessions, she came around, and decided to get a divorce! This huge win was even better because I made sure she got her own checking account ahead of time!”

    • Nina

      Amazing!! I was I’m the middle of auditing a lovely lady. She ran out in the middle of the session and we weren’t able to stop her… She arrived back within 5 minutes with a pack of cigarettes for me. She JUST KNEW that I was dying for a smoke!!!

      • sugarplumfairy32

        Sooo.. I was sec checking this PTS named Tony Ortega and he kept refusing to admit his crimes.. He kept trying to ask ME questions and I kept telling him, dude, it doesnt work that way.. I ask the questions around here.. I asked him what color my eyes are and he says who really gaf what color your eyes are.. I asked him if this reminded him of an earlier time when someone really irritating was asking him stupid questions.. Again he starts with the questions..I told him he’d never make clear with that attitude..

        • PeggyToo

          ROFL

        • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

          Too late Fairy, he already has the clear bracelet!

          • burythenuts

            And he got that clear bracelet just the way scientologist do.
            He bought it………..

        • Mrs. Libnish

          FTW!

  • http://gravatar.com/peggy2176il peggy2176il

    ????where isTC’s listed????

    • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

      You mean on the Honor Roll? IIRC, either Tony or a commenter said that TC requested to be taken off to keep his donation level confidential.

      • http://anyoldname1.wordpress.com anyoldname1

        Is that JT & Kelly’s excuse, too? Couldn’t find them on the list.

  • http://gravatar.com/peggy2176il peggy2176il

    ????where isTC’s listed????

    • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

      You mean on the Honor Roll? IIRC, either Tony or a commenter said that TC requested to be taken off to keep his donation level confidential.

      • http://anyoldname1.wordpress.com anyoldname1

        Is that JT & Kelly’s excuse, too? Couldn’t find them on the list.

  • Mrs. Libnish

    Sooo…Ann Archer is at the bottom of the barrel regarding contributions…shame shame Ann and with your boy Tommy so far up the food chain…err…I mean in the hole. Jenna “Crazy Ass” Elfman has donated more than Kirstie Alley. That strikes me as odd, I’m not sure why. Mayabe if Kirstie could get a couple of “wins” with her weight loss she’d be good for more than “Vanguard” status. Tell me this, if you are a 30 year Scilon who has contributed millions, do they take your name off the flyer?

    Now about that video…I would LOVE to have a 12 year old VHS (where the hell would I get one of those players?). I mean, they were very limited in production and more than a decade later there are 29 left! What a steal! I’m sure any music put to LRH’s words would be dandy.

    • sugarplumfairy32

      Song of Asia VHS: $24.95

      VCR to play it: priceless

      • mattekudasi

        I have a VCR packed safely away in the hall closet for the day when myself or my kids get nostalgic for our old home movies not to mention the cases of VHS movies I haven’t been able to part with.

    • WeStandTall

      In general I actually still prefer VHS to DVD, but when it comes to musical adaptions of classic LRH poems portrayed by Golden Era performers I require Blu-ray 3D.

    • PeggyToo

      You know damn well that as soon as the VHS sells out, they will then put it on DVD and everyone will be required to purchase that, even though they already have the VHS. MOAR $$$$$$$

      • Nina

        And after the DVD push, comes the “Ideal Podcast Breakthrough”

    • mooki

      also notice that Travolta and Preston are nowhere on the list.

      hmmm…

      • mooki

        and no Nancy Cartwright either… hmmm

        • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

          Cleared up a bit further up in this thread. In the Honor Roll, “Her Royal Governor of the Vast Valley Territories” is a secret *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* reference to Nancy.

          Really, If any female was *insert title, royal or otherwise* of any vast valley, I think she should take offense.

          • mooki

            prediction: Cartwright will be one of the few celebs left standing when the cult goes down, the others being Jenna and Bodhi Elfman and Kelly Preston

  • Mrs. Libnish

    Sooo…Ann Archer is at the bottom of the barrel regarding contributions…shame shame Ann and with your boy Tommy so far up the food chain…err…I mean in the hole. Jenna “Crazy Ass” Elfman has donated more than Kirstie Alley. That strikes me as odd, I’m not sure why. Mayabe if Kirstie could get a couple of “wins” with her weight loss she’d be good for more than “Vanguard” status. Tell me this, if you are a 30 year Scilon who has contributed millions, do they take your name off the flyer?

    Now about that video…I would LOVE to have a 12 year old VHS (where the hell would I get one of those players?). I mean, they were very limited in production and more than a decade later there are 29 left! What a steal! I’m sure any music put to LRH’s words would be dandy.

    • sugarplumfairy32

      Song of Asia VHS: $24.95

      VCR to play it: priceless

      • mattekudasi

        I have a VCR packed safely away in the hall closet for the day when myself or my kids get nostalgic for our old home movies not to mention the cases of VHS movies I haven’t been able to part with.

    • WeStandTall

      In general I actually still prefer VHS to DVD, but when it comes to musical adaptions of classic LRH poems portrayed by Golden Era performers I require Blu-ray 3D.

    • PeggyToo

      You know damn well that as soon as the VHS sells out, they will then put it on DVD and everyone will be required to purchase that, even though they already have the VHS. MOAR $$$$$$$

      • Nina

        And after the DVD push, comes the “Ideal Podcast Breakthrough”

    • mooki

      also notice that Travolta and Preston are nowhere on the list.

      hmmm…

      • mooki

        and no Nancy Cartwright either… hmmm

        • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

          Cleared up a bit further up in this thread. In the Honor Roll, “Her Royal Governor of the Vast Valley Territories” is a secret *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* reference to Nancy.

          Really, If any female was *insert title, royal or otherwise* of any vast valley, I think she should take offense.

          • mooki

            prediction: Cartwright will be one of the few celebs left standing when the cult goes down, the others being Jenna and Bodhi Elfman and Kelly Preston

  • Mrs. Libnish

    http://www.saynotodrugsrace.org/beneficiaries.html

    Damn, that pharma party sounds like a good time. How come we never thought of that when we were teenagers?

    • TrustMeOnThis

      Because we had “key parties” – of which this is clearly an imagined variation. ;-)

      My favorite part was this:

      ” The effects drugs and alcohol have on our society are disastrous. Millions of lives have been ruined, and many lives ended before their time. Careers and jobs have been lost, people have been injured or debilitated, savings have been squandered, families have broken up, and some have lost everything they have – including their sons or daughters. ”

      Just replace “drugs and alcohol” with “Scientology” for a chillingly accurate statement.

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        Agreed, but what I find particularly infuriating and despicable is their attempt to commandeer legitimate problems by applying self-serving blanket conclusions and solutions at the expense of ALL constructive dialogue with any other knowledgeable source.

        Makes you wonder if “helping” anyone is or has ever been their intention, dontchaknow.

      • Mrs. Libnish

        Touche.

  • Mrs. Libnish

    http://www.saynotodrugsrace.org/beneficiaries.html

    Damn, that pharma party sounds like a good time. How come we never thought of that when we were teenagers?

    • TrustMeOnThis

      Because we had “key parties” – of which this is clearly an imagined variation. ;-)

      My favorite part was this:

      ” The effects drugs and alcohol have on our society are disastrous. Millions of lives have been ruined, and many lives ended before their time. Careers and jobs have been lost, people have been injured or debilitated, savings have been squandered, families have broken up, and some have lost everything they have – including their sons or daughters. ”

      Just replace “drugs and alcohol” with “Scientology” for a chillingly accurate statement.

      • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

        Agreed, but what I find particularly infuriating and despicable is their attempt to commandeer legitimate problems by applying self-serving blanket conclusions and solutions at the expense of ALL constructive dialogue with any other knowledgeable source.

        Makes you wonder if “helping” anyone is or has ever been their intention, dontchaknow.

      • Mrs. Libnish

        Touche.

  • Mrs. Libnish

    Oh, and I forgot to add..I LOVE the little red circle at the top of “The Auditor” flyer that states “If it isn’t in The Auditor, it didn’t happen”. BWHAHAHAHAHA…way to keep the kool aid flowing. I’m sure The New York Daily News would love to hear that.

    • Moo

      That’s a take off of something Tory talked about. “If it isn’t in writing, it isn’t true.” Quoting that statement from LRH is how Tory got the IJC to send her her actual declare on goldenrod paper.

  • Mrs. Libnish

    Oh, and I forgot to add..I LOVE the little red circle at the top of “The Auditor” flyer that states “If it isn’t in The Auditor, it didn’t happen”. BWHAHAHAHAHA…way to keep the kool aid flowing. I’m sure The New York Daily News would love to hear that.

    • Moo

      That’s a take off of something Tory talked about. “If it isn’t in writing, it isn’t true.” Quoting that statement from LRH is how Tory got the IJC to send her her actual declare on goldenrod paper.

      • Mrs. Libnish

        She is brilliant! You do what you gotta do to get that Goldenrod.

  • http://twitter.com/katebornstein Kate Bornstein (@katebornstein)

    I think the scariest Sunday funny is the plea for submissions from the Auditor editor. That’s pretty much all Scientologists allow themselves to read. Everything else has too much entheta in it. That’s what we were told in the 70s, and we policed ourselves as we were directed to. The only non-Scientology pieces I read back then were Sci-Fi and Action novels, and tranny porn. For the life of me, I still can’t remember how I kept the latter from reading on the E-meter every damn time I picked up the cans.
    Then there’s the Hymn of Asia concert, with all those white people pretending that they’re Indians. I wonder if they also do minstrel shows.
    And finally—the photography institute. I wonder how the students and faculty are responding to the fact that they’re school has that huge LRH compilation in their library. I bet a bunch of ‘em are embarrassed. I was embarrassed when his awful photos started appearing on the cover of Advance. But you could never SAY anything but “wow, isn’t the commodore an amazing photographer?!” because saying anything else would get you pegged as an SP. In fairness, the old man shot some really good photos —not the staged pictures, he never got the hang of those. But the snaps he got when he was just messing around were cool. And he did work his filters. Those were the days before PhotoShop, and he got some pretty awesome effects in his pictures.
    Hello, dearest members of Tony’s Army —
    It’s good to post here again. I’ve been on the road touring college campuses and book fairs. Huh. I wrote that so casually. It’s the part of my life I most love—getting out and about and meeting new people, and seeing what younger generations are doing. They’re smarter and more compassionate than my generation, and I get filled with hope for the future when I’m talking with them.
    So, you know I’ve got me some lung cancer. Thank you, Mister Tony, for letting folks know. And thank you, dear scientology-watcher, for your sweet good wishes on the comments page, and on Twitter. It means so much to me.
    (Here’s the link to the whole story. replace the word “dot” with a real dot. http://katebornstei dot typepad.com/kate_bornsteins_blog/2012/09/bad-news-and-wonderful-news dot html )
    And Tony—you are so fucking awesome. Look at you, writing away. Someone needs to do a book about you as an investigative journalist and showman. Love you.
    OK, that’s it for today. My surgery date is October 25. Lots of doctors are going to be poking and prodding me up til then—and it’s not my very favorite kind of poking and prodding. And that’s my life for the rest o’ the month. It’s been good to take a moment to be with you.
    xoxo
    K

    • sugarplumfairy32

      Love you, Auntie Kate… =)

    • PeggyToo

      All kinds of ‘Good Vibes’ coming your way. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!!

    • einsteinonthebeach

      I know you will make a speedy recovery, Kate.

    • flunk123

      I always enjoy your posts. Don’t let the cancer get you down. You’ll be just fine.
      love,
      Flunk

  • http://twitter.com/katebornstein Kate Bornstein (@katebornstein)

    I think the scariest Sunday funny is the plea for submissions from the Auditor editor. That’s pretty much all Scientologists allow themselves to read. Everything else has too much entheta in it. That’s what we were told in the 70s, and we policed ourselves as we were directed to. The only non-Scientology pieces I read back then were Sci-Fi and Action novels, and tranny porn. For the life of me, I still can’t remember how I kept the latter from reading on the E-meter every damn time I picked up the cans.
    Then there’s the Hymn of Asia concert, with all those white people pretending that they’re Indians. I wonder if they also do minstrel shows.
    And finally—the photography institute. I wonder how the students and faculty are responding to the fact that they’re school has that huge LRH compilation in their library. I bet a bunch of ‘em are embarrassed. I was embarrassed when his awful photos started appearing on the cover of Advance. But you could never SAY anything but “wow, isn’t the commodore an amazing photographer?!” because saying anything else would get you pegged as an SP. In fairness, the old man shot some really good photos —not the staged pictures, he never got the hang of those. But the snaps he got when he was just messing around were cool. And he did work his filters. Those were the days before PhotoShop, and he got some pretty awesome effects in his pictures.
    Hello, dearest members of Tony’s Army —
    It’s good to post here again. I’ve been on the road touring college campuses and book fairs. Huh. I wrote that so casually. It’s the part of my life I most love—getting out and about and meeting new people, and seeing what younger generations are doing. They’re smarter and more compassionate than my generation, and I get filled with hope for the future when I’m talking with them.
    So, you know I’ve got me some lung cancer. Thank you, Mister Tony, for letting folks know. And thank you, dear scientology-watcher, for your sweet good wishes on the comments page, and on Twitter. It means so much to me.
    (Here’s the link to the whole story. replace the word “dot” with a real dot. http://katebornstei dot typepad.com/kate_bornsteins_blog/2012/09/bad-news-and-wonderful-news dot html )
    And Tony—you are so fucking awesome. Look at you, writing away. Someone needs to do a book about you as an investigative journalist and showman. Love you.
    OK, that’s it for today. My surgery date is October 25. Lots of doctors are going to be poking and prodding me up til then—and it’s not my very favorite kind of poking and prodding. And that’s my life for the rest o’ the month. It’s been good to take a moment to be with you.
    xoxo
    K

    • sugarplumfairy32

      Love you, Auntie Kate… =)

    • PeggyToo

      All kinds of ‘Good Vibes’ coming your way. Best wishes for a speedy recovery!!

    • einsteinonthebeach

      I know you will make a speedy recovery, Kate.

    • flunk123

      I always enjoy your posts. Don’t let the cancer get you down. You’ll be just fine.
      love,
      Flunk

  • http://reaching4.info Mary McConnell

    Haha!! “How You Can Help Raise Money for Narconon’s Legal Defense!” You got that right!!

  • http://reaching4.info Mary McConnell

    Haha!! “How You Can Help Raise Money for Narconon’s Legal Defense!” You got that right!!

  • mooki

    excellent article from the New Republic about the strange marriage between Co$ and NOI
    http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/108205/scientology-joins-forces-with-nation-of-islam

  • mooki

    excellent article from the New Republic about the strange marriage between Co$ and NOI
    http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/108205/scientology-joins-forces-with-nation-of-islam

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/ Jens TINGLEFF

      excellent indeed. Whilre the occasional detail is off (“Clear” is not “the most enlightened” state in $cientology) there’s a lot of interesting details.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Jamie DeWolfe posted this link to a new interview he did about cults:
    http://davidgmcafee.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/exposing-scientology-an-interview-with-jamie-dewolf-by-david-g-mcafee/

    Its a good one, short but sweet.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Jamie DeWolfe posted this link to a new interview he did about cults:
    http://davidgmcafee.wordpress.com/2012/10/06/exposing-scientology-an-interview-with-jamie-dewolf-by-david-g-mcafee/

    Its a good one, short but sweet.

    • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

      I just love Jamie. Thanks for the link

  • http://www.skeptictank.org/ Fredric

    Folks, Scientology needs your help. It seems they’re running out of money and can’t defend themselves against murdering customers and could really use some help.

    Won’t you please help?

  • http://www.skeptictank.org/ Fredric

    Folks, Scientology needs your help. It seems they’re running out of money and can’t defend themselves against murdering customers and could really use some help.

    Won’t you please help?

  • flunk123

    That’s Ron Miscavige, David’s dad, playing the trumpet in one of the stills from the Hymn of Asia VHS.
    I imagine him as being a certain type – maybe a hippie jazz musician that became a Scientologist.
    I see Miscavige as a father-hating John Gotti type. Just impressions …

  • flunk123

    That’s Ron Miscavige, David’s dad, playing the trumpet in one of the stills from the Hymn of Asia VHS.
    I imagine him as being a certain type – maybe a hippie jazz musician that became a Scientologist.
    I see Miscavige as a father-hating John Gotti type. Just impressions …

  • PeggyToo

    Hmmmmm…Blind item from CDAN…..Kirstie-Kelly-JT??????????

    This B-list mostly TV actress is one step away from leaving her controversial sect because she’s got a TV sitcom gig that will earn her lots of cash. She accepted this job because she dried up her bank account donating money to the sect. Her current TV gig on a reality show isn’t enough, and she accepted the gig on a rival TV network after a pilot for the network that broadcasts the reality show fizzled out. To further complicate matters, she has cut off ties with her longtime best friend, a C-list actress married to an A-list actor whom the TV actress has allegedly been involved with romantically, because she’s been calling her house too many times to complain about her husband’s extra-marital affairs.

  • PeggyToo

    Hmmmmm…Blind item from CDAN…..Kirstie-Kelly-JT??????????

    This B-list mostly TV actress is one step away from leaving her controversial sect because she’s got a TV sitcom gig that will earn her lots of cash. She accepted this job because she dried up her bank account donating money to the sect. Her current TV gig on a reality show isn’t enough, and she accepted the gig on a rival TV network after a pilot for the network that broadcasts the reality show fizzled out. To further complicate matters, she has cut off ties with her longtime best friend, a C-list actress married to an A-list actor whom the TV actress has allegedly been involved with romantically, because she’s been calling her house too many times to complain about her husband’s extra-marital affairs.

  • PeggyToo

    This would be the ‘fizzled out’ pilot on ABC……

    It’s A ‘Cheers’ Reunion – Rhea Perlman To Co-Star In Kirstie Alley’s ABC Comedy Pilot

    http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/its-a-cheers-reunion-rhea-perlman-to-co-star-in-kirslie-alleys-abc-comedy-pilot/

    And this would be the ‘gig on a rival TV network’…….

    Exclusive: Kirstie Alley to Headline TV Land Comedy Pilot ‘Giant Baby’

    http://tvline.com/2012/09/27/kirstie-alley-giant-baby-tvland/

    I’m guessing ‘best friend’-Kelly Preston and husband JT.

  • LemonLemon

    “It sure is going to be odd, watching how this cult copes with their impending collapse.”

    Perhaps it will be that Davy serves them all that special kool-aid, Jim Jones style. It’s not like Davy will drink it himself, of course. He’s got fortunes stashed away in off-shore locations, to think of .

  • mattekudasi

    Thanx Eienstien, that works. I’m one of the few who liked livefyre cause in my little corner of the world it worked pretty much 100% of the time. I hypothesize it’s got something to do with relativity.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    If anyone did and proved the claim, we would certainly know about it.

  • N. Graham

    Like and lol

  • http://twitter.com/howardroark1 Howard Roark

    Reblogged this on 31 Factors.

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  • einsteinonthebeach

    I looked in to that Hymn of Asia and it basically said Orgs are Buddhist temples, LOL. Has anyone seen this “Hymn” in its entirety? I can only find bits and pieces.

    • http://gravatar.com/blissfulldreams blissfulldreams

      Am I Metteyya?
      If you see me dead I will then live forever.
      I come to you in Peace
      I come to you as a Teacher
      I do not come as an officer of Church or Sect
      I come to you as a Man
      I do not come as a God.
      I come to bring you wisdom
      I come to bring you all that Lord Buddha would have you know of life, Earth and Man.
      I come to you with Freedom
      I come to you with science
      I come to teach you
      I come to help you.

      http://www.hymnofasia.org/lyrics/index.htm

      wonder if they change the lord buddha to prophet Mohamed for NOI or do they get there own poem too

    • http://gravatar.com/poisonivyherself Poison Ivy

      “Hymn of Asia” was written in LRH’s phase where he was trying to hint that he was the reincarnation of the Buddha. Because Scientology is so much like Buddhism. Practically identical (not.)

      • einsteinonthebeach

        Yeah, I posted something about that over on the Rodeo. Really kind of comical when you think about it. Hubbard is like the anti-buddhist. His “techniques” tend to overbuild the ego and drag you away from the “now.”

  • einsteinonthebeach

    I looked in to that Hymn of Asia and it basically said Orgs are Buddhist temples, LOL. Has anyone seen this “Hymn” in its entirety? I can only find bits and pieces.

    • http://gravatar.com/blissfulldreams blissfulldreams

      Am I Metteyya?
      If you see me dead I will then live forever.
      I come to you in Peace
      I come to you as a Teacher
      I do not come as an officer of Church or Sect
      I come to you as a Man
      I do not come as a God.
      I come to bring you wisdom
      I come to bring you all that Lord Buddha would have you know of life, Earth and Man.
      I come to you with Freedom
      I come to you with science
      I come to teach you
      I come to help you.

      http://www.hymnofasia.org/lyrics/index.htm

      wonder if they change the lord buddha to prophet Mohamed for NOI or do they get there own poem too

    • http://gravatar.com/poisonivyherself Poison Ivy

      “Hymn of Asia” was written in LRH’s phase where he was trying to hint that he was the reincarnation of the Buddha. Because Scientology is so much like Buddhism. Practically identical (not.)

      • einsteinonthebeach

        Yeah, I posted something about that over on the Rodeo. Really kind of comical when you think about it. Hubbard is like the anti-buddhist. His “techniques” tend to overbuild the ego and drag you away from the “now.”

  • Scam Tax Assessor

    The roster of dough-nate-ors is most certainly all the West Coast contributors on every ahrd driven money drive out there up and down the cost.If you multipy it by 3 times at best you likely have all the have the active ” on-purpose ” suckas.It’s gettin harder to squeeze this herd these days has to be the complaint of the sheepherders.

  • Scam Tax Assessor

    The roster of dough-nate-ors is most certainly all the West Coast contributors on every ahrd driven money drive out there up and down the cost.If you multipy it by 3 times at best you likely have all the have the active ” on-purpose ” suckas.It’s gettin harder to squeeze this herd these days has to be the complaint of the sheepherders.

  • TheHorse

    On the Say No To Drugs Link go to about then press and peruse the awards/certificates given theres one from NarCONon and the FBI from 2011. I can’t work out why the FBI would give one?

  • TheHorse

    On the Say No To Drugs Link go to about then press and peruse the awards/certificates given theres one from NarCONon and the FBI from 2011. I can’t work out why the FBI would give one?

  • http://dbloch7986.wordpress.com dbloch7986

    I don’t see my parents’ names on there anywhere…hmmm…

    I also see the parents of a poor kid who was in the same position I was in the SO. He left before me. I noticed he is not friends with his parents on FB. I wonder what he is up to these days.

  • http://dbloch7986.wordpress.com dbloch7986

    I don’t see my parents’ names on there anywhere…hmmm…

    I also see the parents of a poor kid who was in the same position I was in the SO. He left before me. I noticed he is not friends with his parents on FB. I wonder what he is up to these days.

  • Pete Norton

    Has anyone ever checked the Boy Scouts records to see if Li’l Ronnie really was the youngest Eagle Scout? Sound like more self aggrandizement!

  • Pete Norton

    Has anyone ever checked the Boy Scouts records to see if Li’l Ronnie really was the youngest Eagle Scout? Sound like more self aggrandizement!

    • trustmeonthisone

      Good question! You’d think they would have found him a hat that fit, if so!
      I also couldn’t help but notice that of the three photos used, only one could have possibly been taken by Elron – since he is in the other two.

  • trustmeonthisone

    Is there some way to lodge a protest?

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    Ha! Based DMSTCC’s previous post that doesn’t quite match Tony’s posted Honor Roll, the New Civilization Builders Meritorious title seems to be about the equivalent of the Gold New Civilization Builder at the $5 Million threshold.

    So, other than the meat body theory, Nancy either wants a) scilon acknowledgment but also plausible deniability to the general public
    and/or b) figures that attaching oneself with a worthless title that includes “Her Royal…” in it is somehow seems more humble and discreet.

    Fact is, it’s hopelessly pathetic either way.

  • einsteinonthebeach

    Nice! I tried posting that link but it wouldn’t let me…maybe it was because I was trying to link to 3 articles

  • einsteinonthebeach

    And now I see they went through? Must be via moderation for links.

  • http://gravatar.com/pattyp Patty Moher

    Thank you mir, you are an absolute doll for doing this. Much appreciated.

    To the nextmrstomcruise, unfortunately, I need them in text in order to feed them to the database.

  • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/ Jens TINGLEFF

    excellent indeed. Whilre the occasional detail is off (“Clear” is not “the most enlightened” state in $cientology) there’s a lot of interesting details.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    The NYIP wikipedia entry says they have an A rating with the BBB. Their blog says Hubbard took the correspondence course and there’s no immediate reason to doubt that claim. However, correspondence courses never have and never will have the legitimacy of traditional classroom certificates/diplomas.

    Assuming good faith on their part, I can only hope they realize that bragging about Hubbard being an alumni is anything but a feather in their cap.

  • TrustMeOnThis

    Wiki is not a terribly reliable source. And BBB is even worse. They make themselves LOOK like a gov’t agency but they are private, and they charge you for every little thing – to be listed, you pay. To use their log on your web site, you pay more. They don’t check anything unless someone bothers to complain (and you can probably pay to make that go away)! Not trustworthy. Another $ scam. Do not be fooled.

  • N. Graham

    No doubt. Next they’ll brag that John Wayne Gacy went there and learned how to do his renowned clown pictures.

  • flunk123

    I always enjoy your posts. Don’t let the cancer get you down. You’ll be just fine.
    love,
    Flunk

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    I agree, hence the caveat of the value of correspondence courses. However, a cursory google search revealed no major issues as far as their business practices are concerned.

    Jes sayin’ it’s unfortunate if they were naive enough to buy the Hubbard Greatness spiel only because he’s an alumni, but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater yet.

    Of course I reserve the right to throw this conciliatory post is out the window if there is a confirmed scilon connection.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    Btw, I’d just like to mention that comments are moderated yet my posts pass within a few minutes and none have been deleted. So there’s that, for whatever it’s worth (let’s be honest, we can’t say the same for… oh I don’t know… Huffington Post)

    Right now and unless I’m proven wrong, I think they genuinely meant well enough and had no idea Mr. Johnson’s blog was headed for a steaming pile of poo.

  • TrustMeOnThis

    Oh, I’m sure they had no idea. They seem totally legit. I just have an axe to grind with the BBB – they are also scammers! Not as bad as $ci but they strong-arm small businesses and provide nothing, are not objective. It is a money making venture and that is IT. So yeah, I’m just sayin’.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    Cleared up a bit further up in this thread. In the Honor Roll, “Her Royal Governor of the Vast Valley Territories” is a secret *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* reference to Nancy.

    Really, If any female was *insert title, royal or otherwise* of any vast valley, I think she should take offense.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    Gacy PAINTED clowns, he didn’t PHOTOGRAPH them.

    Not that much of a subtle difference /sarcasme. Come on!

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    Jebus!, Your post at the NYIP site:

    “I agree, I really don’t think you should discriminate when it comes to good photos. The BTK Killer had an interest in photography and added some historical insights to Polaroid photography. Will you be featuring him here also? ”

    Let’s have a genuine discussion here. Don’t you think it would be more purposeful to set out to inform them with facts that NEVER fail rather than antagonize them with straw man taunts?

    Was it too much to ask of you to jump in the irreverent “did you know *insert incredible Hubbard accomplishment* game going on the site’s mods are obviously letting through (and if anyone’s complaining, which I’m sure there are, mods ain’t listening)?

  • http://gravatar.com/ngraham1 N. Graham

    BTW Penguin, if your are going to take authoritarian tone that everybody has to do things YOUR WAY, you might consider starting your own religion/cult.

  • einsteinonthebeach

    I don’t think there is anyone here who would play a game….. oh there was the one guy:)

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    *whoosh*

    that one flew over me, you kindred Philip-Glass-lover-you.

    if it wasn’t clear, the “game” I was referring to concerns what’s happening on the BYIP site where a few posters (please join, no sign-up necessary) are spoofing Hubbard’s outrageously obvious false claims.

  • einsteinonthebeach

    Most people don’t know the Marcabia was often hailed by subspace communications:)

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    Okee-doke.

    I’m going to assume this is a Rodeo inside joke, yet I ask you to reconsider what the hell you think you are doing on Tony’s blog.

    You may have missed it, but I did announce that my username at VV was Anon Anon Song and whether a perceived noob status is currently involved or not, your behavior right now is… well…. disappointing.

  • http://gravatar.com/penguin0302 penguin0302

    I was calling N. Graham out for unnecessarily antagonizing NYIP. So what does one “Hail Marcabia” prankster have to do with it?

    Actually, I don’t want an answer. Really.

  • einsteinonthebeach

    @penguin,

    I was replying only to the game part of your post. Sorry for the confusion.

  • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush (@media_lush)

    I purloined your text and links for my latest scion bollocks post

  • http://peggytooagain.wordpress.com PeggyToo

    Yeaaaaa I’m famous!!!!

  • http://alsfunmail.wordpress.com NGraham2

    That was me! 10 of my Warhol 15 minutes. I sent the info and wrote it up about the insane surveys they would send. Here’s the link:
    http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/02/scientology_drives_librarians_nuts.php

  • Mrs. Libnish

    She is brilliant! You do what you gotta do to get that Goldenrod.

  • http://gravatar.com/thenextmrstomcruise thenextmrstomcruise

    I just love Jamie. Thanks for the link

  • trustmeonthisone

    Good question! You’d think they would have found him a hat that fit, if so!
    I also couldn’t help but notice that of the three photos used, only one could have possibly been taken by Elron – since he is in the other two.